>> tuesday, october 18, 2016, meeting of the san francisco entertainment commission my name is a bryant tan the president

and a few housekeeping items one please turn off your cell phones or on vibrate not to interrupt the meeting and two if you're a member of the public i don't see a lot of people out there but like to speak under public comment please do so. >> finally thank you to sfgovtv and the media services for airing this meeting live and recorded to the public we're going to start with a reluctant. >> commissioner caminong commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner frost president tan. >> we have quorum i'm pretty much that commissioner perez said he'll be in attendance this evening and commissioner thomas is out of

town. >> we have quorum the first item on the agenda is general public comment for comments that relative to the business of entertainment commission any public comment. not seeing any, public comment is closed. move on to item 2 the approval of our minutes from october 4th i move to approve all right. a motion is there a second second. >> all right. there is a motion that has been seconded any changes or comments to the minutes? i don't see any any public comment on the minutes nope public comment is closed. commissioners take a vote >> start on the other end commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner caminong i'm going to abstain. >> you don't need to be presents maybe you were not here doesn't matter where you were present or not. >> from here on out if you're

not here you can vote for approve the minutes and president tan. >> that item passes minutes are approved we'll move on to report if a our sound inspections starting with inspector pauley several items to report start with new complaints or one complaint the clubhouse was a 10 october 17 about 7:45 p.m. >> you said october. >> october 10, 2016, 745 a noise complaint about an event i got there an hour later the event was over he followed up with the planning department because they recently appealed the decision person trying to - they have a grandfather permit like 50 events a year and can only do event hold events for

people that are part of association people that are part of neighborhood their trying to get an exemption to be able to do events outside like private events so i talked with planning about that and mr. larkin basically said they shouldn't be doing if their noise complaint we decide them that we should follow-up or whatever but nevertheless, this particular complaint i didn't find a noise issue that was over by the time i got there but following up and trying to figure out what is going on i suspect not a lot of information just someone in the association having an event so may take ground work but handle by inspector burk moving on to the hedge barn kitchen that is last thursday the 13 of

october 10th:30 a.m. they have a house system not very loud they have peaks at 92 they were not serving liquor they are doing corporate event not a loud situation that went off without a hitch no impact on the neighborhood behind them a shop there's a auto shop they don't have a neighbor attached to them and the only complaints they've gotten from the neighbors is in regards to patrons that leave and too loud not a loud system update on club malibu last time i recorded by issues ventilation holes to their exterior and this is a picture of a ventilation and the fan they attached i went by once at

the 11 o'clock on friday night zero impact and 2:00 a.m. because the neighbors complained about patrons living room about 2:10 a.m. sunday morning and nobody outside generally what i see when i go by going i don't see folks lingering i tried to schedule a so you would test with the neighbor closest to the venue their complaining the most we've been playing phone tag i left them a message and tell them to e-mail and that way we have a record i haven't heard by the way, back but get a test and see what is going on they sent another complaint an sunday that was loud i did not see anything

but nevertheless, a variance with their experience and their house what is going on the street so i'm going to follow up and try to figure that out situation out a couple of compliance items the blue light 1979 union street 15 of october under new management maggie suspected they're under new ownership their permit is expired by operating with a billiard table they'll be coming in for a permit and the last issue the after hours 50150 i went but as 3:30 a.m. and did a visible inspection a busy party

like the only major after hours party so it looked fine i mean, they, do better with the line we'll try to talk with them about. >> question. >> i'm confused it says venue is that the same thing as barn value. >> no. >> that's 5550. >> it is otherwise known as the human video game. >> oh, right. >> there's some other things that are interested in talking about we'll talk about offline. >> so o do they do that has a human video game. >> i haven't seen it in awhile and maybe the first month. >> maybe not like for a year. >> is it just after hours. >> as far as i know i think so. >> don't they have a liquor license.

>> they start before, after, hours i think they have a liquor license they're not supposed to be serving after two nevertheless, if you have any questions i'll be happy to answer them. >> i don't think so if they have a liquor license. >> that's. >> commissioners no questions pretty straightforward so one quick question about malibu do you think the case will close soon it sounds like. >> once the sound test there will probably happen from any excellence p will happen they're going to the residence so fourth i can hear it inside the residence i don't want to jump to inclusions but the sounds

like situation and want to follow-up hey i don't know if it will close soon and - but you know where we're managing it and maybe their definitely maybe there's something going on i can't preserve what is happening so - >> thank you for the update they're taking a lot of resources for such a small place let's move on to introoushgs. >> one of the complaints to report on geary we have a resident that has reached out in the past about this sunday nights there they do a jazz jam and i've been told they're leaving windows and doors open working with the residents to center them reach out in realtime when i'm patrolling on

days i plan on paying a visit this subpoenaed. >> talking with management and security sounds like a recent turnover in staff now they've left the issue. >> performed a followup on the armory this past sunday after updates to entry and exit ways on the doors on 14th street i took a.m. i did not measurements on wood ward and compared those to low frequency sounds like levels during the day on sunday and so far as i can tell the measurement the investigators are looking at the space and in touch with the multiple

residents on julia and on 14th street and at that point none recorded any kind of disturbance through conditions on sundays were not perfect that was a gathering in one of the part time buildings that was full of sound and the rain had an effect on the higher frequency it was apparent that was controlled but hard to gage the higher frequency due to the weather and didn't have access to the departments moving i was able to increase the sound limit on the venue itself moving forward i hope to see myself and inspector, next item. >> pauley is look at the additional improvements and when

the permit is installed it is important that we keep a close ear i did issue a notice of violation on jesse we got a complaint directly in the hotel across the street upon arrival there was a tour bus parked in on jesse that who's engine was running the manager at messing then said a second complaint from the plaza who lives in one of the part times buildings i made sure and established ambient a couple of months back that night about who o two and a half decimals

above ambient to i issued a notice of violation for the good neighbor policy number 8 violation of municipal police code we discussed they're familiar with the short power that is a high current power venue that is basically able to power touring vehicles so they don't have to run engines throughout the night their work on that we we'll check in before this weekend. >> i have a question. >> yes. >> is the increased noise coming from the bus or the venue. >> i think i think the nature of a bus hum is so consistent and instant not necessarily disturbing people that internal revenue used to it but if it

hums until the close of the night not as disturbing at the entering ment speak from the messing then i know based on how the meter was jumping the decimal in the alley was hitting over ambient from the beat of music the actual noise from the bus running didn't extend past the bus. >> watts was the but running or the generate. >> it was the buses engine the generators are quieter. >> thank you a couple of places that i keep an eye on over the past weeks island 32 i have tendency to see police lights outside on that corner

i think you remember a report from our past hearing and this one in particular i did stop in again and security e vehicle code a patron i talked to security thank you sounds like things were handled well in island 32 and like i'm doing with most of my inspections and conversation with security i'm encouraging and insisting that people have an intern report onsite getting case numbers and cab numbers whenever a police is involved and making sure my number is on site and respond in realtime to take an assessment that happened with milan pete's we got 4 complaints today incident report from central station i told them the same

thing 31 any alteration of violence or incidents with the police we need to hear about it. >> the milan pizza a permit holder. >> the end up this past weekend keeping an eye on them two weekends ago they're closed on saturday and sunday but the regular day party there seems to be in general disorganization on site people showing up late equipment maybe not functioning up to standard some confusion about policy and i'm keeping really good notes about their partitioned generally nothing egregious to mention as

of now but i think some overall lack of attendance to policy and lack of attention to detail is not a great combination one trying to keep them safe and sounds like i'm going out on a limb and making judgements i want to keep you guys posted since we've heard a lot about that. >> so head of security is not on the premise. >> on an event recently, i was there this was not this past sunday but the sunday before they were scheduled to open at 2 i was onsite at 1:30 the head of security was not onsite the i b scanner was broken and that was dropped off shortly after

scheduled to open i asked security if they thought that was a good idea to open the club without the head of security and after a short conversation thought it wouldn't be a good idea if i wasn't there. >> the owner of place. >> or wasn't there. >> he stopped by to drop off an i b scanner and i didn't see him again. >> no second in command. >> there's a manage onsite there is a doorman with a guard card they don't consider necessarily as part of their security team more like a doorman so general confusion based on experience that. >> you said no medal detector

it was found to the faulty and batteries. >> did they pat down or use the one hand. >> i don't recall once i found i knew the wand was working my attention shifted elsewhere. >> this was at 2 in the morning. >> in the afternoon another day party. >> thank you did they have a change in staffing? something going on; right? i'm trying to figure out. >> so they have had the same management and ownership and i think some members of the security team have changed over

he would have to do more research. >> okay. >> i mean this is not a hearing at the moment your updating us. >> i have one more question your experience with the operation they're not close on weekends are rerelatively crowded before 2:00 a.m. or are they more of the after hours crowd that is there? do you notice their packed or crowds are thin? or. >> i can't say necessarily they've over crowding at any point they have lines i think they are some nights well attended and some nights not there is room to improve that change over when they move from the early parties to the morning

party but i'm not seeing crowds uncontrollableable. >> the reason i was asking you was wondering from the crowds are 39 and the lack of attention is with the attendance falling off and money issues that's my trends of thought. >> i think crowds have thinned in recent weeks then this may has to do with the program switch has to do with i don't want to make guessed. >> i was wondering it doesn't matter. >> i feel it is strong 1 o'clock there is no line but i left around that area at 2 there is a long line.

>> they're getting door. >> it is 50 bucks or something. >> it is quite high they're making money somewhere. >> not a lack of income pushing their lack of - >> organization. >> thank you last note treasure island news this past weekend some rain delay and weather issues but sound was very much contained on the island and no complaints to 311 or sffd no complaints to the hotline. >> not have sound nature. >> not of the sound nature. >> great - >> any jane kim fans. >> i was wondering

any comments if commissioners or questions. >> commissioner perez welcome. >> did you guys do any reports about the dream force event at palace. >> the u-2 concert. >> not that i'm aware of i'm seeking a lot of shacking heads to the negative. >> all right. any public comment on our inspector reports i don't see any public comment is closed. we'll move on to item number 4 police department questions or comments and none here to speak for them move on to item 5 consent calendar so i actually instructed our deputy director of up to date items that needed our consent on consent agenda we only have one permit to be honest i would like

to open up for a short presentation because we have only one permit and our guest is here why not come up i'll have director kane introduce it and tell us about users. >> sorry maggie is not here this evening but it looks like a i'll tell you more brand newing i've not been there but excited just to be clear i think that commissioner frost had a hard time finding it the police department sent an e-mail to the

deputy director on october thursday october 13th indicating that bayview station approved the live performance permit with only condition they would to see a monthly event calendar and e-mail will be adequate so that is just fyi in case it's not in our package. >> hello, i'm ed one of the 3 owners of harmonic also the before hrewer - we're in the s ends up a production brewery with a small taproom a place for neighbors to congregate and

socialize we wanted to do a little bit of live music we're not a concert venue by provide customers that are in the tapping room some entertainment from time to time about once a month have a band or dj or something. >> great that's pretty straightforward in the application once a month but the permit you can have entertainment any day. >> right. >> i mean that's no problem there i guess there was even though the neighborhood association there is some addressing about garbage and all that i guess you'll be conscious about that part of good neighbor policy. >> we tried ourselves in

connected to our neighborhood part of dog patch neighborhood and the upping dog patch association so our the members of those associations around the brewery regularly and one of the 3 owner is there all the time and we're there probably 15 or 16 hours a day making sure everything is okay. >> they're really good people and obviously we have a club there one time had a lot of issues the support you they're there so you guys got support letters from them. >> i think that commissioner perez has a question. >> hello thanks for coming in i was wondering your plans to contain the sound within our venues making sure it didn't bother the neighbors. >> we're fully contained and a tapping room next to where we're

planning on having music we're not having the music loud we're have family-friendly venue and they don't want to drown out our customers so the volume controls we'll be there to control volume. >> an in house sound system or something you're asking whoever to bring along. >> a pa system it a band could use or bring their own again we'll be there to monitor what was being used like amplifiers and guitars but will be controlled not two loud for the customers. >> the band can hook up to your sound system a board or play there their amps. >> they can hook up to the

board. >> you have a board. >> like a portable two speakers small mixing board. >> you know what kind of speakers they are just occurs. >> i don't. >> you don't okay. thank you. >> i'm assuming you play music off an ipod or something. >> what kind of bands will you have duly sworn or 4 or 5 piece bands. >> yeah. probable something like that. >> a big band. >> a 3 piece band. >> what we ask is big bands will bring in their amps and pipe into our system you have control or they control it and the sounds like basically comes out. >> the city has two small places and is amps wouldn't be any big deal i don't think.

>> but do they use their own. >> if they use their own equipment they'll set up next to the bar make sure even with the sounds like board or anything we'll make sure they are reasonable limits. >> thank you yeah. i mean - okay. >> all right. any other questions from commissioners. not seeing any, it seems sfraurd i think that is great to see more bureaucracyries and have music because sometimes a ipad didn't is cut it have a seat. >> any public comment on harmonic brewer permit. >> are you here to speak about

the harmonic brewer company. >> hi, my name is silvia johnson. i have a been putting the editors for with harmonic listing for a professional driver it is present already that has sequences that endures with music and i had opportunity with it now i have been having you know what you call it bone marrow having too much pain and

told them before on they did medical issues that had brought into music business we had you know making issue for that on - for his business and i do want to make an issue that needs to be more flyers, more workers to make sure that alcohol would be not as - control and i knew that - because i i did not because of medical that going through going stuff created on my face because

of those people that don't realize this issue that has become and the ward didn't have an issue that is all brainwashed. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment all right. not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioners - there's no more comments let's take a vote. >> if we can do a motion i'm distracted a motion to approve second. >> let's take a vote. >> clarification the motion includes the monthly calendar to the sfpd. >> okay. >> yes. >> thumbs up on that motion commissioner frost

commissioner lee. >> commissioner joseph commissioner caminong you're not commissioner thomas commissioner perez president tan. >> that item passes congratulations harmonic brewing. >> call maggie tomorrow or the next day item number 6 we're almost done commissioners questions or comments. >> commissioners have anything to say all right. monarch move on to item 7 new items for future agenda okay. you look like you want to say something >> no, no not at all i'm fast. >> no other business i'm going to adjourn this as 6:11 p.m. have a good night

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hearing from candidates for district 7 board of supervisors and they'll have a chance to present their views on issues affecting the city and to submit questions for the candidates, look for a volunteer, who will be handing out index cards. we'll be collecting all questions by 7:00 p.m. the candidates will answer questions you in the audience submit, as well as questions that have been submitted by the league of women voters. the time keepers will hold up the yellow card to signify candidates that they have 15 seconds remaining and red card when it's time to stop. thank you, time keepers. all candidates have agreed to ask their supporters to be respectful of other candidates and the audience and to maintain quiet in the forum and i ask you to respect that commitment. you have many important decisions to make november 8th and today's forum will give you an opportunity to be heard. now let's begin. each candidate is allowed one minute to answer each question.

we're going start with question 1 and start with mr. engardio. what is your vision of san francisco in 2020? especially with respect to district 7? what major changes do you see and how will you ensure quality of life? >> i think it's important in district 7 that we really champion the [ inaudible ] -- it will allow -- and that allows for four-car trains instead of two and more capacity and quicker commute times and i think it's a commonsense solution to a transportation infrastructure problem. we also have -- it would alleviate traffic situation at st. francis circle and 19th avenue. it's important to invest?

transportation infrastructure. so we can have a better city. >> john farrell, first off i will work to make sure that we have viable commercial district and it's taken care of right away with supporting vision zero and make sure that we have a city that is -- right now we have a budget -- [ inaudible ] and we must protect our environment. we must take care of our seniors, our children, we must have safety and make sure our streets are clean

and we must have everybody taken care of. thank you. >> good evening my name is ben matranga and thank to the league for hosting us all tonight and thank you for coming out. district 7 represents san francisco's best and i think it represents a quality of life where middle-class families can own a home, where you can educate your children, and we need to preserve that. we need to make sure that the district 7 stays welcoming and staying inviting, and is possible for that next-generation of folks that are living, that are raising their families in san francisco to be able to stay here. i think the no. 1 issue is public safety. as i have mentioned many times there is as many police officers in san francisco as when i was growing up in the 1980s. we need more police officers. there is a spike in neighborhood crime andplore police officers are help alleviate that and that the first thing i will champion

on the board of supervisors. thank you. >> i'm supervisor norman yee and thank you to the league for hosting this candidates' forum on ucsf. all of the things we're talking about is quality of life and how i see 2020 where we'll have improved parks, which i'm working on, and we're already working on, and wanting to make sure that possibly we're going to increase the percentage of people going back and forth from the westside to the eastside by double. what i would like to see, i'm envisioning is the percentage of children in san francisco, population will increase to the most of the u.s. cities. and to do that, we need to have infrastructure to support that including new schools like was said or in the mission bay area. that is what i'm be fighting for. >> hi.

mike young and thank you for hosting this event today. what will district look like in 2020? we need a coordinated consensus-built plan that is going accommodate all of the development that is coming online in district 7 to include the additional 5,000 units and park merced and the development of balboa reservoir and renovation at stone town. we're talking about adding more housing there as well. we need to start reaching out to the neighborhoods now and agreeing on how we're going to accommodate the new hospitals, the new schools, additional police resources, additional fire resources? where the traffic-calming measures are going to be implemented on the streets, as well as integrated transportation plan. that is what 2020 should look like for district 7. thank you. >> the next question we'll start with mr. farrell. what would you do to reduce overcrowding on public transit in san francisco? >> what would i do --

well, basically public transit it's to be reviewed and make sure we have enough vehicles available. we have to make sure it's more reliable. we have to look at all of the streets to make sure that they are safe, and basically we have to really look at muni right now. we have to focus on all of the lines. my vision for the future is to make a reliable muni, to make sure it has the funing funding online and make sure it's safe and reliable and make sure it's well-lit and there is policing and it's available for everybody in san francisco to get around and to be able to count on it. thank you. >> ben matranga. muni is incredibly important in a transit-first city and i

firmly believe we need a system that is clean, safe and reliable. i think in terms of overcrowding specifically, it's about increasing the quality of rolling stock that we have here in san francisco. our rolling stock is in the best state of good repair. there is capital plans to improve it and we need to make sure shows are rolled out and secondly, to make sure that we have drivers meeting routes so we're not canceling routes mi route. mid routes. >> >> norman yee, i have already mentioned about the m-line which i'm starting the process of looking at creating basically a tunnel, or underground passage on 19th avenue, and i'm also trying to explore other possibilities of east-west line that would go underneath also. that line right now is prettylimited. so we need to increase the

capacity. we need to find newer buss to update the buses so it doesn't break down every day and that is what is going to relieve the overcrowding. what happens now when the bus break downs, they take it offline. so that is one fewer bus on a particular line. a lot of times we actually lose a few buses on a line on a daily basis and this is what is cause ing some of the overcrowding. >> if problems were easy if fix, it would be done already. overcrowding on muni takes deliberate planning and foresight. i'm a big fan of undergrounding the metro wherever we can, so that we can extend the cars to four cars rather than the two that we have now, because the streets can't bear four cars and that is one solution. in park merced was

predicated on federal funs of funds to alleviate the overcrowding and additional density coming online today. world i would be planning to look at those funds and how we use those to lessen the overcrowding. >> there is a lot of things that we regret not doing when we had the chance, like building lots of bart tunnels or tunneling the m-line 40 years ago when it was first proposed. so we need to think big. when i was talking with the person who is planing this m-line tunnel project, you know, originally it was going to be a bridge or maybe not a tunnel the whole way and she said i want to shoot for the moon and tunnel to park merced and i said shoot for the moon because all of these things work together and we need to talk about a tunnel

along geary and get the central subway all the way to fisherman's wharf to connect with moscone center for the conventions. so it's important to look at things holistically and think big. >> the next question is regarding housing. starting with mr. matranga, it's a multi-part question. how many new housing units does district 7 need in where should they about? how will you help get them built? >> you know, let's start with where we're at right now in district 7. of all of the supervisorial districts, district 7 is no. 3 in terms of housing units that are in the pipeline. so there is already a significant amount of housing coming online in district 7. which is a great thing. i think, it's typically talked about that you have district 7 is the area of the city that has a lot of single-family homes, but

there is an inconsiderably large percentage of renters whether in the inner sunset around here and the conversation in those places if you look at park merced is how do we protect the most vulnerable and protecting seniors to stay in the units that they need? and too often we're promise the housing, but the requisite infrastructure doesn't come along with it. that has been promises and those promises haven't always been kept and as supervisor i will ensure those are built. >> as >> as already mentioned, district 7 actually has quite a few housing projects that were built recently along ocean avenue and of course park merced area has been on the plans for a little while and they are actually beginning to move on the plans. now we're talking about other

spaces like balboa reservoir and the heights, in which we're working with the community and make sure whatever we do in the district and we're having our fair share of housing. that the neighbors really work with the developers to make sure that there is some satisfaction about keeping our neighborhood characteristics intact while we're actually trying to balance it with growth. that is where we're at this point and doing a really good job in the districtment people are open to it and many people are actually open to some development in district 7. >> i'm sorry, i want to respond directory to the questions that you asked. the only one i caught was how many housing units does district 7 needs and the others were? >> where should they be and how would you help get them built? >> it's clear that there is a great demand for housing citywide. the exact numbers i'm not sure anyone really knows what that exact number is.

district 7 has stepped up to the plate, we're taking on all the housing at park merced and going forward with the plans of renovation at stones town and we're in the talks for balboa reservoir. where should they be? those three locations. how do we get them built? with our leadership, they require communication, consensus building between the neighbors and stakeholders in the region around san francisco, including the adjoin districts and also representation in city hall and that what a leader should be doing is being in the middle of the process and engaging that process and leading that process. >> >> joel engardio. there are three problems facing district 7 resident has there reasonable housing solve. problem 1, people are saying i want a more vibrant commercial district. i'm tired of all the empty storefronts.

problem 2, senior citizens are saying what will i do when my house is too big to take care of and i can't navigate the stairs? and problem 3 the baby-boomers say where are my adult children and grandkid goes to live i would like them to stay in san francisco to be hear to me and the corridors which i define the street mowni train is, a few stories creates demand for the vik rant retail that the single-family homeowners will enjoy and allows for elevators that senior citizens can enjoy and rent out their homes to families and it creates housing for our kids and grand kids. it makes absolutely sense and how do we do? pbuild a catalog, lots of senior citizens now see its in their vested interest to build the housing. that is how you get done. thank you. >> you know, i've looked at balboa reservoir and gone to meet son that and gone to meetings on park merced and every time i go to the

meetings i just shake my head. because you are look at park merced and san francisco state wants to build student housing and getting around there is a nightmare and they want to cutback on parking and they want to build projects that don't have one space for one unit. it's ridiculous. there is going so much congestion. i want to make sure that developers are meeting their goals and i see how they are treating tenants at park merced. i don't like what i see. i see balboa reservoir with parking issues there there is 150-unit senior housing they want to put on laguna honda and never talk to the neighbors, 30% for homeless and they are pushing it through without the neighborhood involved. the neighbor has to be involved and everybody has to come to the table and essential isa accountable and tenants are respected the

way they deserve and i'll make sure i'll there for the residents. >> the next question we're going to start with mr. yee, regarding early education. how do you plan to provide more access to early education programs in san francisco and how do you plan to fund this? >> good question. this is the field that i came from, early education. i started to preach for all programing in san francisco and, in fact i have done a couple of things since being a supervisor. one, i have worked with the developers to increase the development fee for child-care and all of them agree that it's okay to add the residential development. so that is going to give us additional funding. i'm having some propositions/legislation right now that is going through the process of creating the counterpart, or

companion piece for preschool which is really the infant/toddler early learning scholar fund. which are create a program to increase the number of babies that can be taken care of in san francisco. and as i work with the san francisco giants and mission rocks development and 5m both agreed to put additional child-care space for people to use. >> when i was going to public school, at roosevelt on the days that i was playing hooky -- sorry mom. i would get a call from school asking why isn't michael here? schools get paid per student who shows up. so when i hear san francisco schools aren't good because there aren't any families here, there aren't any children -- well, the children don't come and the families don't stay because the schools aren't good. it's a vicious cycle and for me it comes down to

middle-income housing. we need to do everything that we can to keep families in san francisco, so there is demand for those types of services. and we should do that by adjusting the ami and with coordination with city hall to build that housing. >> joel engardio. a lot of families leave san francisco when their kids turn age 4 or 5, and you know, we can do all we want for early education, early care, but if we can't keep the families here once the kids turn 4 or 5 is defeating the purpose. we need to look at the big-picture and it's important that we treat parents in san francisco like customers when it comes to the public school system. and often times the parents might get their kid into an elementary school and be happy with it and then they leave when it comes to middle school time, because the middle schools are getting

rid of algebra and honors programs and not catering to what the customers want. so this is an issue that we need to look at in the long-term as far as how do we keep the family in san francisco from birth through graduation of high school? and then have a place for them when the kid comes back from college to build a life here. >> well, i'm going to focus in on money first. basically the city has enough money right now it's not even bringing in to take care of all of these programs. that is one of the reasons why i'm against most of the propositions to increase taxes. if city hall was doing its job, it wouldn't have to do that. now what i would do is first, i would bring in revenue to the city. i have a track record of bringing hundreds of millions to the city and i have a track record of doing that and streamlining. what i would do is i would ask the experts - first off i was embarrassed reading the paper that the school year was starting out without enough teachers.

to me that is an emergency. these things are unacceptable. what i would do is basically talk to the experts who know what needs to be done; i do find the funding. i would work with the schools and i would try to do what i could to make sure we have teachers here, affordable housing. we would get the money for the housing. i have no problem with that. thank you. >> so the question was specifically about early education. several years ago we passed a point in state of california where the cost of early childhood education is now more expensive than in-state four-year tuition at a university. a lot of the same mechanisms that we have and the anxieties that folks of my parent's generation, but they had an 18-year lead up to save up for when that happens and now we have the problem of younger parents feeling

the anxiety both at the front-end and back-end and lay on top of that a school system in san francisco, where there is no neighborhood preference -- neighborhoods preference is a lower priority and kids are taking one or two buss to get to school and funding early childhood education and making sure that kids can stay in their communities and access that. >> next question we're going start with mr. young and we're back to transportation. how will you increase access to public transportation? and support cyclists and pedestrians? >> you know the west side is facing a lot of growth pressure and a lot of older, retired residents live on the westside and they are the ones that built san francisco and made it the place that i grew up and that i appreciate. we have a lot of new interests come in, newcomers

with new ideas and new ambitions and i think we need to manage that transition. i don't think we should take away cars like away. i don't think we should take away parking like away. there are a lot of people who can't walk and a lot of people who have trouble taking public transportation and having it get on and off. should we make accommodations going forward? absolutely we should but it should be a managed conversation between what the residents want in district 7 , as well as newcomers to have the conversation incremental accommodations for bicycling and additional public transportation. >> joel engardio. san francisco bike-share is going to expand immensely thanks to tens of millions of dollars from the ford company who wants to become a mobility company. you will have a lot more kiosks and bikes like the

bike-share program and district 7 won't take effect until probably phase 5 or 6. here is the opportunity, yes, there is tension between drivers and bicyclists and we need to accommodate those who rely on cars, but with the families who live in 7, they would like to safely bike from their home to the park, or to lake merced or safely bike, if you are commuting to work, to the -- i walk ten minutes to my muni system and if there were a kiosk, i maybe would bike to that station. so i think there is a way to smartly put the kiosks in 7 that actually benefits families and we plan the routes that doesn't disturb motorists and gets every acclimated how a bike can improve your life. >> to support traffic and make sure it's safety for pedestrians and bicyclists. if has to be a coordinated effort between the neighbors, with the city.

everybody has to be involved to see what -- meet everybody's needs and get everybody's input. muni has to be much safer. we have to be more reliable. like i said, there has to be enough muni buses to the system in order to make people, to have enough for people to use. but in order to make this whole fit, we have to design it very safely. thank you. >> ben matranga. this is right in my wheelhouse. san francisco has always been a multimodal city. and it will remain that way. and i think the key on top of all of that is to make sure that safety is the most important thing. now most recently i served as san francisco's first street safety director where we launch a very ambitious plan to put in safety infrastructure all over the city. we exceeded our goal by

about 30%. we did on-time and underbudget. these are not words you typically hear coming from city hall, but we were able to do that because we had a coordinated approach. worked with the departments, and had a very thoughtful, multimodal system that was based on data that at the end of the day prioritized safety more than anything else. >> norman yee again. so what i have been able to champion is the vision zero policy for san francisco, whose goal is to have no fatalities of pedestrians and bicyclists by 2024. this is basically three strategies, enforcement, engineering of streets to make it safer and also education. so that is what we're pursuing and we have been doing that last year, two years and for me, i'm going further and uses my

participatory budgeting program to fund measures -- and residents get to pick and choose best suited for their neighborhoods and aim opening to do more in next four years. thank you . we have a very quick five-second follow-up question and start with mr. young and go in the same order. how did you get to tonight's forum? >> i drove. >> mr. engardio? >> uber. >> i drove -- i parked about six blocks away and then i walked. [ laughter ] >> i shared a ride with my wife and got dropped up in front because there was no parking. >> i drove, but i'm smarter and parked two blocks away. [laughter ] >> thank you. our next question we'll start with mr. engardio, regarding the sunshine ordinance, do you

support the sunshine ordinance and regarding open and transparent governance, is it a burden or benefit? >> i definitely support it. i worked as a journalist and i to do a lot of requests for records. so i think it's important. in a democracy, in an open society, in a place where we value the first amendment, it's very important to have open government and should not be a burden. >> i'm for the sunshine. everything should be transparents. thank you. >> absolutely. i think san francisco, one of the most unique features of our government is our the openness and its transparency. my internship in 1996 with the san francisco ethics commission and i have been championing reform around campaign contributions that i think is incredibly important. our campaign made a

commitment that we won't take a dime from registered lobbyists and it's important that voters understand who is financing their candidates and what does that mean and how did it influence their decisions especially on land use? >> definitely support the sunshine ordinance and, in fact i'm one of the supervisors when people asked for information, communications and emails and so forth. that they will see my name -- won't see my name that so and so won't give the information and, in fact i believe in transparency and that is why i have been through this participatory budgeting program, in which the residents actually know what they are spending their money on, their money, the city's money on. so, in fact, we're supporting limiting how much people can give through that particular campaign.

>> i do support the sunshine ordinance, and i support open government. so that the people can understand what is going on during the policy-making process. that does need to be transparent. however, i will say that there is something to be said for open, honest communication between individuals. that is the only way that you can begin to build consensus, and to be able to understand really what the other side is saying in a genuine way. so that you can come to decisions that are meaningful, rather than say things you think you need to say because you know other people are listening. that is something -- freedom is predicated on privacy. we have that -- we have that ability to have the conversations so we can turn over our ideas. and bounce ideas off each other to come to the best decisions. that is the basic element of

american society and the freedoms that we have. i would like to see some sort of accommodation within the government as well between politicians. >> our next question will start with mr. farrell. what do you see as the biggest challenge facing district 7? >> the biggest is right now safety. you want to make sure that stopping the brakes and you want to make sure our streets are safe. you want to get rid of the high-injury corridors and make sure that the homeless are taken care of before it gets out of hand. there are several in the district and you want to make sure that they are taken care of and get the services that they need, whether they are mentally ill or drug-addicted. you want to make sure our streets are clean and you want to make sure our police are accountable. you want to make sure that they are patroling it; you want to make sure just basically you want to work with the merchants and coordinated effort with the

neighborhoods and schools to make sure that we have a safe neighborhood. thank you. >> ben matranga. the single biggest issue far and away is public safety. district 7 has always been a place where you should be able to walk on the street at night, you should be able to go down to the neighborhood-commercial corridor and buy what you need. you should have confidence that your kid can walk to the playground, and this spike in neighborhood crime has come from a lack of police police officers and a lack of attentiveness from the board of supervisors. i'm ordinarily proud to be the only candidate in this race endorsed by the police officers, the firefighters the deputy sheriff and district attorney investigators and the reason because we have a plan. i think it's incredibly important when you talk about public safety, you work with the folk it's are going to

implement it and you already -- during the campaign get things in motion to make sure when you are elected from day 1, we make district 7 safer for everyone. >> most likely all five of us will have the answer in terms of what is most important and really crime -- even though it's not the highest in san francisco in terms of the district it's spiked quite a bit. i have been working with the police department for over a year to increase the number of police officers assigned to our stations ashley, and cover district 7. we have an additional 12 officers now. i have brought back the beat cops that was lost for a little while there. so there is some presentation in the street. i have also helped to increase the budget for sf safe so they continue to work with neighborhood groups for crime watch. and more recently, i am working with the police rank

and file, commissioners and so forth to come up with a plan for neighborhood crime unit that i will be voting on tuesday. and beyond that, i'm actually creating a task force that is going to look at police staffing. once we reach the number of 1971 which is a minimum now at the end of next year. >> the most important issue in district 7, absolutely public safety. we need more police on the streets. the minimum staffing for police right now is 1971 that was set in 194. 1994 and that number hasn't been updated, nor meeting that minimum level of police staffing and what we look at what minimum staffing should be, as well as workload countspt being in national security for ten years, we said security is like air. you don't know you need it until it's gone. burglary theft and vehicles is done over the last couple

of months, but i shouldn't let us lull into being lax, but to make police on the streets and public safety our no. 1. >> joel engardio, crime is definitely mine. with the spike in january/february felt like a tidal wave and neighborhood groups had to get together and ask what is happening and figure out what can we do? and they were looking for leadership, and i think it's important that we have a supervisor who follows the data and looks at the trendss and is in communication with the neighborhoods. so when something like this happens, that people are prepared for it and people can build a coalition and work together and marshal the resources that you need to tackle the issue. that is why crime is top of mind right now. i think it's also part of a larger issue of quality of life.

people -- the crime is very visceral, but they are feeling squeezed with their kid sgoing to school and housing and transportation and people are feeling generally stressed and looking for leadership. >> our next question will start with mr. matranga, a multi-part question regarding proposition h. the first question will make yes or no. do you support proposition h copy and pasting e creating a public advocate and if your answer is yes, tell us why it's appropriate to spends $4.3 million on the measure when supervisors should also be advocates for their district. >> absolutely no, no question. this is a horrible idea. i'm against proposition h and against the creation of public advocate and we have district supervisorss and many folks in district 7 remember when we had citywide elects and elected supervisors citywide and you wanted a supervisor who

could focus on district issues, hold government accountable and work to -- work with departments to make sure things are getting done and the board of supervisors, every supervisor has the ability of inquiry and can call a hearing at any point. so those tools already exist in the current system. there is absolutely no reason we need the additional wasteful layer of city government. now some folks will talk that they want a little bit more transparency, but it's a naked political move and i think we should question the motive of folks who are supporting it and introducing it. >> i support prop h. the reason why i'm supporting it is when it was introduced -- somebody asked me to look at this an issue and i read up on what happened in new york, and it was very positive in terms of the outcomes. things that city council members may not be able to

be dealing with. as a supervisor, a district supervisor, of course, i'm going advocate for my own district. but there is a lot of other overarching issues that a public advocate can take on a lot better than a supervisor at a district-level. >> no, i do not support prop h. we already have supervisors. we have elected officials already and they have staff. as for the comparison to new york, we're not new york. new york is a very different city. it's much, much bigger. and, in fact i think prop h is expensive. i think it's redundant and it would be cheaper actually just to hire additional staff in the supervisor's office which could come to be under $1.5 million. so no on prop h. >> joel engardio, absolutely no on prop h. let's play this out so we have a public advocate. what are they going to be doing from day 1? running for mayor. they are just going to be

politicking and blocking the mayor and making him ineffectual every step of the way they can until they become mayor and the next public advocate will just do the same thing and we're going to spend millions of dollars do it and it's ridiculous. the new york example, it's not apples and apples. i mean new york has 8 million people with five borough presidents and 140 city council members and we have 11 supervisors and a mayor, maybe new york needs a public advocate. we don't need it here and we have plenty of advocates and you can elect one up here today to represent you in district 7 and be your advocate. >> i am against the public advocate. now the public advocate what it's supposed to do is take care of public concerns. i thought that was part of the job of the supervisor. don't need to spend the money there. as i said in a lot of other forums, i will be district 7's public advocate.

thank you. >> great. so our last question for this evening we'll start with before yee. if elected, what commitment would you make to work with neighbors to get their input on new development in district 7? >> i actually have a track record of including neighbors in getting their inputs into projects. balboa reservoir project was brought up, the city went in there and had community meetings, and in three months we're going to get it done and move on and have a proposal be sent to them. and i don't believe that our neighbors are getting their voices heard. so i form a community advisory committee made up of mostly people from the area. during that more than one year of process, we have had 16 meetings with community

input, and things have changed from one extreme to the other. we're not building 5,000 units, or anything, it's going to be 500 units. so every word that i can get a chance, i try it get community input, including my participatory budgeting program. >> i lived in countris where civil society doesn't exist and we couldn't have forums like this and couldn't be running for office and you wouldn't have the right to say what you thought about your government in an honest way. what we have with the neighborhood associations is something very, very precious that i take very seriously. we need aggressive interaction with the neighborhood associations. they are the representatives of what is going on in the city. i like to commend actually supervisor yee for the participatory budgeting process because it gives people a real way of

engaging with our government. one example is i understand there is 150-unit building coming up on laguna honda that took neighbors by surprise. that should never have happened. we should have looped in the community from the very beginning, and no one should be surprised. so my commitment would be to engage aggressively and often with neighborhood associations. >> joel engardio. i'm excited to work with people in the community to help them get what they want. to hear all-time i way up bakery or i want this birite and why won't they come? i think the supervisor should work with people and create a marketing plan, and show the demographics and sell district 7. and which someone says, i want x,y, or z, we'll put together that marketing plan and go out there and sell it

and do the best pr and demonstrate there is a demand for that service and district 7 is a great place to do business and revitalize our commercial districts. so i'm excited about working with people on that. >> well, in regards to the neighbors and commercial, basically i'm accountable to you. i work for you. i want to make sure that any time any development is even considered by the city and county of san francisco that the neighbors are involved right upfront. mike brought up the fact there is 150-units development that is on laguna hondsa by the city lodge that is going to be 30% homeless, that is 30% to be determined by the developer on who stays there. the neighbors only found out because of the newspaper in the chronicle two weeks earlier. this is wrong. i look at park merced and i look there and see what is going on there. there has to be a coordinated effort. i don't like what i see with how the tenants are being

treated at park merced. parking is a terrible issue. i will be -- i will not be a complacent supervisor, but to be involved to make sure that developers meet what they promised. like i said, i work for you. >> i think it's incredibly important that a supervisor on land use issues is proactive and not reactive. i think too often the planning department doesn't serve neighborhoods, but just serves the interests of developers. i think what we have is these processes become reactive, everyone puts in the hours. you go to the 16 meetings and hope it's an open forum, but for a lot of neighbors they feel there isn't actual genuine input and you get up there after a hard day's of work and you show up to the

meeting with two minutes of public comment and i think it's more than having forums where people say their piece, but actually actively listening and being proactive and listening to what neighbors want and actually listening and implementing on it. >> now we come to the candidates' closing statements, but let me first remind you if you aren't registered to vote, please do so right away and urge others that you know to register. the deadline is october 24th and if you have moved you do need to register again atow new address. we'll do the closing statements in reverse alphabetical order and you have two minutes. we'll start with mr. young. >> being overseas for ten years a diplomat with the state department i opine to come back to san francisco nearly every day. i thank san francisco for making me who i am today. i thank the hills, i thank

the air, the water, the people who built this city. i want to come back and offer to the voters of san francisco myself to carry your voice to city hall, to help us plan together the future of san francisco, a viable city that we can all be proud of. that is why i'm running. furthermore, this again is a precious opportunity, not everyone in the world gets to vote. there are a lot of oppressive regimes around the world that they have no say in their futures. in this election, this one in particular, not only do you get to vote, but you get to vote three times. kind of special, i like that. so please, i hope you vote for me no. 1 and i hope you avail yourself of all three votes. thank you very much. >> thank you against again to the league. i'm norman yee and i'm running for re-election.

probably more than ever it's important for me to be in this position. i became a granddad for the first time six weeks ago to my granddaughternalia and i look at my phone constantly because my other daughter is due yesterday and looking forward to my grandson being done and whatever we do in the city will impact my grandkids. i'm interested in continuing work in family housing and something that they don't talk about. they talk about affordable and market-rate housing, and that is important to do that, but we need to push for family housing. what is appropriate for families? i want to continue building the infrastructure that is going to support these families, additional schools,

additional early education programs. i want to create -- i mentioned earlier create a blue-ribbon task force to look at best practices to increase the number of police officers in san francisco once we reach minimum of 1971. and the other thing that i want to do, continue doing is to make sure that people in district 7 get their fair share. it's something that we have been very critical of in past years; that it seems like we never get any attention out in the westside. i brought the attention back to us. i have been able to fight for resources, probably more resources in the last three years, four years, than my predecessors have done in the last 20. i'm really proud that people are really grabbing on the program called participatory budgeting program and over

11,000 people voted on. it's a growing thing that people really want to participate in and hopefully, we're going to keep doing that. thank you very much. >> thank you and i thank the league of women voters for putting this together. you know, throughout this campaign we had the incredible joy of walking all over district 7, our campaign has knocked on over 9,000 doors. and the more we talk to folks, the more we realize there is is an overwhelming sense that the city is going in the wrong direction. that people want a supervisor who is responsive, who is honest, who is hard-working, who can come to the neighborhood meetings and can reach out to them and understand where they are coming from. i have been endorsed by leaders fiona ma and by former supervisor on the

west side, conroy and building and construction trades council and rfk democratic club and the four public safety organizations, police officers, firefighters, district attorney investigators and i think they all realize that lack of attentiveness has led to all of the issues that we're talking about here today. whether that is the increase in crime, whether that is the need for more infrastructure? you know, in this electoral process you have the opportunity once elected to implement an agenda and what that doesn't happen and you don't perform on that, voters have a choice do re-electer owe not? so we're incredibly excited about and thank you so much for coming out and i respectfully ask for your vote this november. >> john farrell. now city has a $9.6 billion, budget, $1 million more than

you a year ago, but still fall short with affordable, safety, homelessness and our once quiet streets are now suffering from break-ins, from traffic congestion, from lack of parking. i have the qualifications, the experience and dedication to make a difference for the city i was an assistant assessor and mayor budget analyst and senior assistant to the port and director at midtown ter as for three years and had a track record of bringing millions to the city and streamlining. i will say i will identify over $100 million my first year in office and i will cut costs and i will streamline. i would appreciate your vote for john farrell as your first choice on november 8 and if not like mike stated, make sure you fill in all

-- make sure if i'm not your first choice or second choice. i'm endorsed by tony hall supervisor and also by u.s. attorneys. it would be an honor and a privilege to serve the citizens of san francisco and represent district 7. i work for you. thank you. >> hi i'm joel engardio. i'm the only candidate endorsed by the san francisco chronicle and also endorsed by supervisors katy tang and scott wiener. people ask me why i want to be a supervisor and my joke answer is because i have 28 years left my mortgage, but it's not really a joke looking at 28 years' of payment and wondering where is san francisco going? what is it going to become? i have lived in san francisco 18 years of my adult life and fell in love with the city and want to stay in love.

i'm running for supervisor because san francisco is change auk i want to help manage that change, so we can all continue to enjoy the westside and district 7 especially so pep. i worked many years as a journalist and being a watchdog and asking tough questions, holding government accountable. i want to do that from inside city hall. homeowners are tired of being city hall's atm. our budget has doubled in ten years and nothing is twice as good. people don't feel as safe in their neighborhoods anymore. people feel unheard at city hall. they are trusted by the complacency -- frustrated by the complacency. i want to advocate for the neighborhoods and use journalist skills to find out how city hall spends money and measure results and only pay for what works? i will be responsive to your needs. city hall likes to think too highly of itself and forgets

its primary function is basic city services like filling potholes and making buses run on time. as supervisor i want to get back to basics and in 28 years after my mortgage is paid off, i'll be 71 and look back as a success if our kids and grandkids are enjoying success in san francisco. i'm joel engardio and asking for your vote so we can have a voice at city that will. hall . thank you. >> on behalf of myself and league of women voters and sfgtv and citizens thank you for taking time to inform yourselves on the choices november 8th, good evening, [ applause ]