>> commissioner president loftus i'd like to call roll is commissioner president loftus commissioner vice president turman commissioner marshall commissioner mazzuco commissioner dejesus commissioner wong commissioner melara ask excused commissioner president loftus we have quorum also with us the intern chief of police toney chaplin and joyce hicks. >> okay. >> good evening and welcome to the wednesday, november 2, 2016, police commission meeting i'm going to make changes to the agenda given the length of the agenda a long closed session handling discipline matters one

and 2 to our meeting next week and go ahead and start with general public comment. >> so public comment will be two minutes given the length of the agenda and the anticipated number of speeches. >> item 3 the public is welcome to address the commission on items not on tonight's agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. with respect to agenda items, please direct your questions to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or departments or occi personnel. department, occi or commissioners are to respond to questions but may provide a brief response. police commission should enter into debates and please limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. >> two minutes. >> okay general public comment? >> go ahead.

>> good evening and welcome. >> good evening my name is magic i came from the sunshine task force they found the commission in violation of 67.9 and 67.7 b and i think that is very important you recognize you can't do 24 again where you ignore the issuance that is a the public needs to have the notice of 72 hours what will be discussed by you on the agenda and i think this is clear no integer and it was really kind of sad you but put your staff and sergeant, next line item. >> killing showing shaw her line of reasons and sounds like on over burned employee that need to not be used like this to get your job done i want to say that

up until june 22nd meeting i thought the public was notified and hope this never happens again, we don't have been in fact, the task force said if was no in their purview i'm surprised you're not prepared and building on an item that clearly says in that ordinance that you should not vote on something and have discussions and action without a preparation by yourselves well more commissioners had more knowledge and some only got to when they walked in and part of violation not posted also on the website when the e-mails went out and the person that does that sergeant, next item. >> kilshaw made clear i don't blame her, she does the best of our service the city attorney

was never mentioning she said that so be thrown out and no substantive changes that's not true the item with the holes and amazing higher standard of penal code having a moving vehicle and shall and should different shall is mandatory and shall is discretionary and should is mandatory i hope you'll know we're not going to tolerate this to get what needs to be done so anyone else gets killed that's the point. >> thank you for bringing that up >> next speaker. >> commissioner i was here yesterday

what i want to say today is that missing in our deliberations what is going to happen for the good of this city and county of san francisco is the premeditation of our youth and young adults every time the commission is challenged so to speak you refer to the san francisco charter the charter needs to be changed the charter needs to be change to reflect the times today's times all over the nation as far as i

understand wheezed freedom and what is license and the bills of freedom is license and you may be trained to do whatever but. >> always have to have their heart in the right place and understand what is freedom and what is license. >> and that comes from our training and that comes from your understanding. >> so young people our ought youth and young adults are now wondering if there is hope and we have a generation that became what they became because of hope but if you deprive our young generation of hope then that's despair we don't need that i'm leaving you with one thought we need to give our young adults hope

thank you >> next speaker. >> good evening clyde. >> well a lot going on chief chaplin i'll be honest with i was 12k0i7d in you on our leaks it was a stupid thing to say i'll say it to your face that was stupid okay. that's a wash we'll let that go we'll let that go we all make mistakes but i'll be honest with i talked with 4 cops is chaplain cool enough said welcome chief thank you. next speaker. >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening. >> my name is julian black man i'm here to address chaplain how

you doing toney chaplin i'm a familiar face to you my question to you not just questions but this is a lot going on in the neighborhood we come from the same neighborhood in the ingleside and toney chaplin ; right? i can admit that toney chaplin was a big part let me go the right way; right? even the charges are trumpeted up i held i was accountability what i done and what was done is done i'm a law-abiding citizen you know a father a great person god - one of my good brother's was shot by the police and in our neighborhood where i come from other one time he lived you you know as kids we did kids thing but he converted

into a rightus life so motivation another part of why i changed my life to do right; right? so i'm really confused that chaplain would allow police officers out of their jurisdiction to come and shot our brother chaplain from our neighborhood i know that man is a good man tony dicker son unarmed it was live reports saying the high-speed chase i'll show you not just that but you know trying to see how the world is being is very secretary

complicated no information - >> yeah. thank you, sir okay - i know - i got to follow the rules maybe chief chaplin can follow-up on your questions. >> thank you, sir. >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening hello my name is clyde a long time ingleside resident and also asking a question what happened to notorious dicker son in a high-speed chase not involved in a high-speed chase shot over 6 times we've not been able to see him self-he's okay if i say housed at we have did charges

stemming fr stemming from assault and not armed robbery and robbery homicide as all the charges they have on him we don't know where he is we said want to know where he's located at and how it is possible for the daily city a police to come into the ingleside area and arrest someone and shot someone and we still don't know what happened to him or what is going on if anyone can speak to that we would like to hear that by us being here together appreciate you guys time thank you. >> okay. i'm going to refer the chief if someone can get the questions thank you, sir fewer

comments. >> next speaker. >> good evening and welcome sergeant. >> good evening intern chief and to director joyce hicks this evening i'm standing before you as is a loved one williams i'm concerned about several things how can we expect to get to the three hundred plus recommendations presented by the doj and the blue ribbon panel and can't get though the removal of shooting at the vehicles the doj has made it clear they'll not accept that type of language in the use of force order how can we get to through 1/3rd of recommendations that are presented with the union it continues to resist change the process lacks transparent and seems to be substantive not to mention allegations of

commissioners speaking pubically and posturing and stating who they want to be the next chief this is inappropriate we must stop right now we must show that we representative reform we must show we support transparent what i want to do the right thing in the eastbound selection of the next chief the chief i've stated need to be one that has a proven track record and is a viable candidate that will be of our interest to everyone i stand before you also extremely troublgd by the san francisco chronicle news article that reelevated some of the candidates locations of where we come from that is very concerning i know your concerned about it and again, i hope that your good evening to provide us with measurements that will help to explain has to how and where we are in the process and again,

thank you for 2350d me the opportunity to speak before you. >> thank you, sergeant williams. >> good evening and welcome. >> thank you my name is huey a local hip hop community activist in the community for several years and happen to be a friend of notorious there is a big issue of police training i'd like to ask chief chaplin when will proper police training into effect we have a systemic violence from police throughout the country i understand that daily city is different maybe protocol but hopefully push that through i believe that gregory by sfpd that is very, very strange he's 130e7d to be here speaking on our cause on our on

behalf but suddenly his house is rated and now like i'll call this the super hero police are 0 supposed to be super heroes but cops killing unarmed black men an epidemic and a little been like this people blaming on cell phones that is a piece of that but lastly there's a sense of rage and hatred it permeates through the plod we have an incidents you you know white guys with guns threaten cops they're not killed they beat the case between the cops dealing with people of color and white people and so-called model minorities that is you know something that needs

to be changed and police need to be changed and police culture changed you guys need to work on many at some point that is coming to a head i'd like to see the problem resolved in the most positive is position for both sides to get on with the business policing is a tough job but - >> yeah. thank you, sir. >> good evening and welcome. >> aclu sergeant williams said a lot of what was said in a letter from jeff adachi and jennifer and myself that appears in the agenda that i and we will leave this room not knowing the status of use of force policy and not knowing even though a impasse is declared and even

though cops have basically labored co-authored restraint and the shooting of vehicles a bad practice we at san francisco still are living other than the policies that are labeled bad practices i'm really surprised on the working group your proceeding in the way your preceding it is very mystifying i believe that is sabotaging captain laid out a very infest and complicated program dealing with 2 hundred plus recommendations chief chaplin wrote a letter asking for community support those of us in the community and stakeholders who will have been working with you on this discouraged and i really am i was sure that was on the action agenda the fact your heading into closed session

again is mystifying didn't require i don't know you're doing this. >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker. good evening and welcome. >> good evening to heck with that david san franciscans for police accountability i'd like to echo what allen and yolanda williams said the entire of us situation is a could tropic we said at the original meeting our procedures were chaotic that has been completely played out what

hastening sued since the sunshine committee has slapped you on the wrist for not rooelgs the documents head of time 72 hours so the community can have a chance to look at it secondly, at the meeting you were to have a deal with the poa we've not forgotten martin there was an agreement the 20 percent was the only thing left and months later on a use of force you guys tell the poa this is the next policy and intern chief chaplin can issue a codifying of the use of force policy you vote on unanimously on june 22nd and we can have a working use of force policy a modern one of the new one so much effort went into

within 48 hours there is nothing stopping you equip your intense fear of poa your intense fear of going up against them they're a group of bullies that have been bullying in commission for years you guys need to get some ovaries to have. >> i'm quite certain i have them i'll give you 30 seconds more. >> you guys need to get a backbone and begin dealing with that relocation union the way it should be dealt with forcefully. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening and welcome. >> how you doing a resident the ingleside district we didn't have questions about what can the police do they know what

they can do whaumz now this is your opportunity here to make a difference whaumz at the end of the day it is in your lap tifrd and my question is: now what is the status an gregory is he in custody and what is he in custody he was not part of that situation you know what i mean so why is this man's house you know what i mean is a bigger plan than what was going on you know what i mean what radio you going to do or the ones that change with the operation you hear me real talk man, you just like me brother so we - i

fall victim on everything so, now my thing can you not fall victim and take - that muscles can you be that muscle real talk. >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker. >> (clapping.) >> >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening welcome i'm karen freshmen from justice of mario woods collaboration and san franciscans for police accountability 11 months ago today san francisco police department excused mario woods by firing squad in front of scores of witnesses including a bus full of school children on their way home since then under tremendous pressure to have the use of force policy and impervious it is updated you can't terminate officers without an updated policy you

unanimously pass it on june 22nd with the input of the police officers association and then they've impede it up until day i ask you chief chaplin to issue the 4 hundred one hundred by the department generally order torment we have a valid use of force policy to that sfpd officers understand the use of force is and you know what the use of force is so they can be disciplined since mario woods execution louis and there was jessica williams and this guy in october and now this gentleman shot by the daily city police without an effective use of force policy it is unclear we can't traven people on it or hold them accountable and who rinses san francisco there is

the police officers association that runs san francisco or the mayor of san francisco run the city please show us thank you, thank you. >> next speaker. >> and i will say we have overflow room 416. >> the intern chief and director joyce hicks i think so the police department is dealing with the racism but once past that they need to deal deal with the training the police needs to be trained to understand the public is not trained and shop making summaries the city will respond to a police uniform and start to do it in a holistic manner that will uplift the mindset of police officers maybe

we'll come to an understanding thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening mr. lawrence and welcome. >> ladies and gentlemen, of the audience thank you, commissioners once again giving me. >> i want to give a brief talk on deadly force if you a long time in the last 24 hours two police officers were you shot 2, 3, 4 utah an ass nation but if you look at the ultimate cause of san francisco every time a policeman shots someone without a gun they read about that in the newspaper or so it on the net tea say i'm going to get the next cop you have two police officers on the force that in 10

years opened an banana clips into two unarmed civilians for whatever cause they didn't have weapons i think a new police chief has to look at that i don't know who he is or where he is but i think sir, you should start bringing him before the public secondly, a person in a building i don't know why the public has to be let in by the backdoor and a private party in the front door and 17 sheriff's acting as thugs we're not allowed in the building we have to use is janitorial indigents and public building to be available to the public for any event anywhere we shouldn't have to use the backdoor and owen i ought to do

something about that last but not least a vote on the occ to turn it into the accidental police shooting i want everyone to vote i think ms. rice has done one of the worse jobs as is occ director thank you for your time. >> we weren't invited to the festivities either. >> good evening and welcome. >> my name is shannon on may 13, 1998, of the stewardship shot and kindly my friend during a stack out they were trying to apprehensive someone on a drug wandered cox went into the backdoor and she was a passenger in the front as the vehicle left the residence recessing listen fired into the car and suddenly

shely she was 17 years old after nearly a 9 year battle the residents - the statute of limitations expired not because the facts and every day failed to - as voted on in the past june sheila what about alive today she's been gone longer than alive two painful for her family and given me permission to speak on her behave they've heard about the use of force policy and the family strongly supports mrofltz from shooting at moving vehicles her family as transformed into a sense of law we need to see sheila grow she was robbed of opportunities to live her life and create a

family of her own her 10-year-old niece and nephews on her through photos nothing will bring sheila back but hope this didn't happen we're grateful to the police commission and the bar association for hard working to make sure that bayer officers from shooting 09 vehicles are stopped the q poa stop this from being for the policy the sfpd is not barricade from 1409 at vehicles and this type of - thank you, thank you for being

here. >> next speaker. good evening and welcome. >> >> good evening. i'm dean jones a community organizer and work for a local agency that helps deal with your homeless problem not mine yours you have people sleeping open our lawn in the front and i get bay window paid no good money to take care of your problem you definitely don't pay me enough so i'm here for two reasons one is because you can do something about the regulations of how you hire people greg suhr when you hired him before our chief he worked was an officer that the obesity called balanced i didn't and beat the black off their skin had you knew that maybe you wouldn't have hired him as chief what else do you know about

those new chief or the people maybe you can't hire you guys because their personally 1r689 number one and number 2 the use of force you're creating a problem for the officers they're handling every problem in san francisco including mental health you should have a mental health unit instead of defunding it you've laid off me before i worked with mr. lee and mentally ill people who do you think they call pay is a psychiatrist integer services video you call the police i'm pretty much you don't know that it is sad that we hire you to do a job and you don't know what is going on in the city take off our uchldz and let me show you what is happening in the city so you

know how to take care of our people sitting behind the desk our hurting your people police should have to deal with mentally ill what is what happened to mario woods that was someone that is suffering from mentally ill the go to jail there are people i have clients - thank you, ms. jones. >> (clapping.) >> >> next speaker. good evening and welcome. >> good evening as you may know i'm julia a bar association representative stakeholder in the development of the use of force policy as such we committed considerable research and time and hard working to collaborative over many months together with marion i met with the poa over a to day period that resulted in 80 to 90 percent of use of force general

order how reflectly the meeting and confer was not the full implementation of this order prior to my involvement that the general order then grufr, supervisor cowen and i were on a radio program i'm well aware how deeply committed to the implementation of the problem by greg suhr he know well though dangers this policy had become and spoke passionately about the need for implementations that was prior to the death of jessica williams and the rejuvenation of greg suhr how tragic and ironic we were able to do that the review of hundred iceds since 2000 published by the self-employed reveals shooting at vehicles are 10 death and one injury to a fellow officer 10 started as troolts

that is deesclation how are we helping our officers to calm the situations not just safer for the public but safer for our officers the city can't afford morally or economically another death the poa recommendations to get 24 order implemented and the training underway on the deesclation so all our stakeholders hard work all of our research 24 doj has been approved by you on june 21st has - is completely squared with the department of justice and we're not there yet less us know how we can help you. >> don't compromise please. thank you, ms. chang>> next speaker. >> good evening and welcome. >> ms. young. >> good afternoon. i'm the deputy public defender i'm here to speak on two issues before

the commission san francisco spell need a new use of force policy the commission knows that the policy that it approved was well-thought-out and considered by highly intelligent and trained people what appears to the community that the police commission and the mayor are held hostage by a police union that is relocation and feels it can say and do whatever in the protection of so-called contract issues theories the i iron the most recent shooting in the city by the police officers into an alleging moving vehicle that would have been banned i say pending use of force policy now i say alleging moving vehicle i'm the attorney for the notorious i've read the police reporting and would like to correct a couple of things he was shot 4 not six or eight or

12 in the intensive care unit in zuckerberg san francisco general hospital the family is not allowed to see him, i was allowed to talk with him here's the tragedy of that car he had been in the car for less than 5 minutes when two police officers discharged their firearms into the car the good news for this police commission and this police department is they were not san francisco police officers but daily city and chp, however, what concern is this morning the san francisco police department swat team arrested the only wooits to this shooting the only civilian eyewitness has been taken into custody and held in a location we do not know where he is he's posted blogs and sought and put that on facebook and was a taken into

custody at 3:00 a.m. - >> thank you, ms. hale. >> thank you. >> thank you, ms. young. >> thank you, ms. young general public comment. >> (clapping.) >> >> good evening and welcome. >> >> good evening and welcome. >> sir. >> good evening. i'm here to talk about the use of force which i understand you unanimously approved that order has importance in the issues of deesclation time and

distance and the prohibition against shooting at vehicles. >> i'm tony i know that a number of i know but i'm here because there is a case that i was involved in as a defensive lawyer that has 12uk with me for years and years the images of that dead young woman in the car completely has taken over my psyching every in and out that is sheila that particular case was including but not limited to so unnecessary and if the use of force not have not shooting as vehicles was in effective it at that time that young woman would be here he television she was 17 year-old a case to go after an individual on a drug case what

they did they saw their suspect get into a car driven by an individual and missed 17 years old a teenager sitting next to him and what happened was shots rang out several shots and she was mortally wounded they drove off and stopped on the boulevard and that's where you see that picture of her slum over and dead it in her car i know that we can't bring her back but think about what it means to shoot at a vehicle she was not a defendant an innocent bystander (inaudible) -

>> yeah. that's right thank you sir, thank you. >> your time is up. >> oh, we get it thank you for being here. >> good evening and welcome. >> and welcome. >> march 29 the sfpd came to my house i live on 12 avenue my 17 year-old was instructed by the police to come down any son complies as on sfpd posted on youtube you see the flashlights yet the police reporting said my stone was at the bottom of the stairs and reviewed to open the gate that's why his face was bashed up the city attorney -

that's why what is going on after the practice police do what they do their attorneys are the ones that get everybody off when we have to remove greg suhr then the city attorney were caught red-handed in you say that my son is at the bottom of the gate fates pirj that's deceit and use the technology cattle's to get off and statute of limitations we have a trial and my son graduated from high school and pro per for my son to have to grow this because of what the police did to him is ludicrous i hope that november 28th someone goes to jeff's office and sees that he is lying and helping to cover up

police scuzzy have to posted sfpd tactical an youtube that corrections everyone in everything in the police reporting that means all the names are across the board crossed out we don't know who to sue so for the city attorney's for paid to cover up police misconduct is inappropriate. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening. >> good evening and welcome. >> thank you very much i'm here to practice saying thank you might surprise you but i'd like to thank you for all the things you tried to do like to thank you for forwarding some names of pro seismic chiefs to the mayor and deciding whoever you forwarded names to the mayor to select you can live with because you will i'd like to thank you

for having whatever courage to recommend descent honorable, strong candidates for that position i don't know whether to be be sympathetic to chief chaplin i think you've been set up by the poa by enclosing you they've taint you and caused us to believe you're in their pocket that is an unfortunate situation you have spoken as if you're not at times i'd like to be in position to thank you for speaking stronger hope you will if you turn out to be chief so i'm practicing saying thank you my main thank you to the officers for justice who have tried they very best to right the wrongs at great risk to

themselves at great risk to their lives at great risk to their safety with the poa turned in their back on them so i'd like to thank the officers for justice i'd like to the folks behind me to leave in a moving vehicle to raise their hands those are the folks at risk. >> i'm sorry i'm front of the of you. >> your in front of the me but behind me if you raise your hand. >> i'm behind you everyone raising their hands is at risk for shooting at moving vehicles he get to get in my mine and drive home wondering if 2 policy effects me the folks that raised their hands are in the same position let us say thank you for what you've done. >> thank you for thanking us.

>> mr. gilberty. >> we want a chief of police that wants to be better okay needs to stop the militarization and the suicides of police officers they are second veterans in the country clearly it is not working for them either we need better policies new policies out of boxes maybe experiments with gun also belts what choices do we have continuing this awfulness of abuse the militarization of our police and the peace officers and the choke holds why not stop this it madness and why not do it here we we all have a chance and opportunity a little bit of

good luck amen one candidate asked douglas mccartney advise on sending american soldiers to vietnam and douglas mccartney said no. you can't send american troops to a fight they can't recognize the enemy and since that time we mill transition our police and given them people to recognize as brown and black suspects we need a better alignment we want the police officers in the community to stay alive and prosper that should be our goal. >> thank you 34rig9>> next

speaker. >> good evening and welcome. >> hi good evening jennifer from the coalition on homelessness as you know i was part of the stakeholder group talking about the use of force policy and i just want to review things a little bit and make some recommendations in terms of moving forward we have an intensive and rushed as you recall process to come up with recommendations around use of force that was a series of previous intervene meetings and work that was done there was recommendations that ended upcoming to this body that were approved and we're not put in place and waiting for the police officers to do a meet and confer with the police officers association it, it is in police

officers association - in terms of having the least accountability possible when those processes go forward that shouldn't be in your interests it is a different perspective how to have an audible police department and public safety in terms of not using extensive use of force as well so we just want to strongly recommend because as we are halting those things they have policies that are the old policies that are currently in play we have for example, on the vehicle shootings shooting at vehicles happening about every 8 months in san francisco so you know we really need to move along and have a very strong use of force policy the department of justice is recommending a full ban on shooting at vehicles

should be moving forward the other two recommendations is that came from the community groups should be moving forward as well us from the ebs coalition of homelessness interface with police officers we're particularly concerned thank you thank you, ma'am. >> next speaker. good evening and welcome. >> hello, i grew up in lake view ingleside area you know something i at ocean view park i was beat up in the early noticing by the police at ocean view park i mean it was just it was an all the time occurrence being seen you know what will happen to our music i know like ours is a moving the

fact of the matter you know and it's been ongoing for so long and now instead of the abuse they shooting you know they really shooting and you know something this really has to stop because you know my niece and nephews is coming up i want them to say a normal life you know i don't feel you know that they have to worry about protecting themselves or being a place afraid to run when they see the police you know and if this was - the car was supposedly moving not supposed to be shooting at or no chase especially a residential neighborhood so they say if it was a high-speed chase you you know and it wasn't like a whole bunch

of crime activist take place in the area you know so i wonder why you know this person you know was targeted and why his family can't see him this is never unheard of and what is really going on with the on wooits is in jail it is totally not right and his house got rated why? because he was a witness to the police nothing new nothing new so i hope we can make a difference if not maybe - >> thank you, ms. moore house. >> next speaker. >> >> (clapping.) >> >> good evening and welcome. >> hello, i'm barbara about

being arrested actually whatever my defy divorcee share my rap sheet was not short my divorce was - i have nothing against the police you can only go with the reports put forth to you false police reports are against the law but some people get away with that but i wanted to say when they have like mario woods the officers look like a bunch of dummies they were all filmed to completely you have to realize our on candid camera everyone has a camera and could you please role a more

professional they all subdivided their guns and what's the glory of bringing in a corps one shot will do and if they ever try to train the police officers to wound and maim and not shot to kill they can have another shot it fair charging mario woods was not a big imperfect boy type he had a knife but broken his arm or something thought is sort shoot to wound only is a request i want to put forward here. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening welcome again remember last i seen you going to have a more slogan make it

happen chaplain i did not see you yesterday but with the new chief thing our assumptions it ed lee want to appoint whatever ed lee want we don't want i don't care you're cool behind closed doors we don't need our shrines we came today, the whole community of los angeles view this is a very important and strong statement you should take serious this is a community you may arrest 80 percent of them with trumped up charges didn't deserve to get beat like you heard the sister earlier i think we're going to doing everything we can we're organizing we're trying to get this together regardless of what

your job you know restrictions or whatever you can do like with the hunger strike and everyone trying to show compassionate and humility like general concerns regardless of your jobs you should make our way over there and do something to make sure that brother is alive you know what i mean you guys tried to kill him not like the san francisco police department or the daily city police department you all have drinks together i'm asking you actually demanding that you somebody needs to do something about that like i said you may live off the brothers misery try to make some happen. >> thank you. next speaker.

>> (clapping.) >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening i try to keep my appearances on a rare coalition it is pretty bad because last time i spoke we were choosing the chief the community had no participation equip for a few of you who listened to the community and take it back the community wanted to say a seat at the table to choose the next chief that didn't happen supposedly against the rules of this body i've not seen the rules to choose the next chief you have a poa that condominium i was in the room i work with the task force that negotiated with in in going to we'll not prohibit those protocols to come into play in our meet and confer we promised that what did they do they said we'll rescind that

agreement and not agree there is not only a lack of trust of the community what happens now you've picked the wrong community because we have you've never seen a room full of black people demanding justice from the police department usually white and latino wanted justice for the community it - they'll willing to organize this case with mr. 34078d is one of the most suspicious cases i guarantee i see the footage they're claiming a high-speed chase and ran over an officer that over has a scrape on his arm something is wrong the only grace is that an sfpd not 1409 him a daily police officer that shot him that's our daily grace but i'll make sure we find the

officers guilty they failed to kill him his story been told he is a stroke in the hospital when he speaks justice will be served and we'll be here to back - >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker. >> (clapping.) >> >> good evening and welcome. >> martinez if from the mission activist, and i'm here i'm disappointed you know another shooting another officer another man of color i'm not from the mission didn't personally know

the man but brown and black solidarity my problems will be their problems we stand together i was told that morning they're going to keep bringing my folks we can't don't think law enforcement those rules and laws if someone gets arrested that is probable cause you expect us to respect the police officers it is an corrupt system how do you expect the community to trust the police officers they're the ones getting racist text-messaging and protesting and doing positive things they attack us you know, i personally experienced things with the sfpd tenderloin bayview and the mission district ungdz and right now all the people got a lot of

conscious folks but kids 16 and 17 didn't know the next policies they're a target like i am i feel survive with my folks by the by myself i get stopped and harassed my record is clean as of now those past couple of years let me say that what do you expect our community to do that's why we gather together and do what we do i'm out there giving the youth jobs and graduating high school but when i'm enrolling them as their case manager a lot of the issues police harassment and police brutality you know what i mean all the things in the city that is one of the key things i have 35 percent of my youth and -

>> thank you. >> thank you, mr. martinez>> (clapping.) >> good evening and welcome. >> i don't feel welcome. >> you are welcome. >> i really wasn't going to say anything away was going through the motion i don't think a lot of you care this is just another death you don't care; right? but you guys are making san francisco into johannesburg and now we've past the point of racism your record makes you look like a bunch of thugs your disrespecting our badge your disrespecting the oath that you took you know because this is ridiculous shooting pregnant woman and racist texting message

for the district of what you do and serve the only reason you people get away with that the people in the city don't know about the structure how to compete i know we're not reading up on laws 80 how to - that's the reason he getting away with that we want the answers sea questions once we start learning about this system again, we're going to change things we'll not have to come to this place with answers to the mayor with that i've said enough please. >> (clapping.) >> any further general public comment oh, ms. brown come on uptake our time. >> good evening and welcome. >> i am here as usual to talk about my son aubrey abrakasa who

was murdered august 14, 2006, i'd like to use the overhead. >> i just wanted to still come here and bring the awareness that my son is not to be forgotten and his case is not solved yet even though they're having new investigators investigate any sons case i'll still here and in pain i still want justice for my son the overhead is not working. >> and my time is leaving. >> we'll give you your time back ms. brown one second. >> as always they always know who murdered my son and the police know the da know know who murdered my son and former gavin newsom put it

in the paper himself saying he know who murdered my son with one exception no witnesses there are witnesses because they gave those names of the perpetrators that murder my son those are witnesses that gave those names of the perpetrators that were there when my son was shot thirty times with a semiautomatic gun i'm still watering for justice for my child you got thomas hannibal and paris moving get and anthony carter i didn't pull those names out of a hat those names are on any sons file on 850 bryant on the fifth floor those names were not pulled out

of a hat those are the names that everyone has so i don't understand why my as opposed to case is not solved when you know when did this i bring this because i want the people to see and feel what i feel i want you to see what i feel every morning i might look okay. on the outside but i'm hurting on the inside i want justice any child and like i said i'm not just fighting for my child there is other homicide victims, too, we making this big folklore about the police killings and our children getting circled on the streets everyday we need to make that same uproar thank you.

>> thank you ms. brown if you or anyone you know has information into the 2006 murder of aubrey abrakasa an i'd like to take the opportunity (415) 575-4444 thank you ms. brown. >> any further general public comment hearing public comment is closed. >> sergeant, next item. >> item 4 public comment on all matters to 6 including the public comment to hold item 6 in closed session. >> any public comment on this matter. >> welcome back. >> thank you again, the same thing i said yesterday you guys need to look at the cops report that assess you should be holding these hearings with as much transparency as possible i don't believe you're doing that you know there is no reason why

all the use of force has to be behind closed doors it is corrupt in the in the first place and the poa has from business with a second bite of the apple i hope owl talk with the city attorney and open up this prosper the doj. >> any public comment on this matter. >> welcome back. >> commissioners you heard in the public we need to change our ways we can't change our ways unless our heart is in the right place if you're heart is not in the right place you've waste nine hundred sanctuaries trying to do something you know we have jesus witness

institutions we have people representing the blue or the police force and if they were alive today, if saving nations were alive today, there would be ashamed take thousand of pages and just to make a point which means nothing at all we don't need to go through the history of what the police stand for or ordinary from the days of slavery we don't need to tell the whole world there is real documentation about the association with the kkk right here in the rotunda interest an

inauguration the k k were having big banners today, i refuse to let people bring banners a joke in the year 2016 we need a change of heart they're going to close doors is a mickey mouse and someone will come out and say oh, i know move not to - >> thank you sir, thank you, sir. >> any further comment mr. gilberty. >> at some point in the future those meetings will be open to the public will be on tv they should be we're watching the

neighborhood is watching nci all the cops shows with commercials the real stuff is happening here it will be heath for the community and the police officers will be more involved will recent each other more i think in the near future those sessions will be open. >> thank you mr. gilberty. >> next speaker. >> welcome back. >> thank you i believe that one of our agenda item is dealing with officer-involved shootings and whether the officers involved in the shooting should return to the force pending the investigation and the outcome of investigation and i would urge they innovate return to the force in fact, i'll urge you discipline and terminate officers involved in officer-involved shootings officer who shot and killed

derrick in the city serves in the mission police department he attacked and wounded one of our fellow ever protesters members for the police accountability we know the police officer that shot alex 14 times found not to be competitive use of force posted open facebook why not burn his family's house down and taser his friend we don't need officers like that on sfpd if they're involved in a shooting they shouldn't return to the force to active duty while the investigation is pending and after the investigation occurs i get it connor it is extremely difficult to the officers we need to remove them so that san franciscans can be safe from the

very people that are supposed to uphold the law. >> thank you. any pursuant to p.m. hearing. >> sergeant, next line item. >> to vote to go into closed session action. >> colleagues do you have a motion to hold item 6 in >> so moved. >> >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed?

good afternoon recruits! i'm going to be very short, because i am -- [laughter ] >> okay, i should start off with a joke -- you have to laugh. anyway, first off, it's my

pleasure to be with the chief and with our department of public health director to welcome you into the finest police department in the country and i know that because that is what you have chosen to do and i'm very gratified i could be here in front of you as you ago through this invaluable academy and training. really two points i want to raise. one is to thank you for making that choice. you can join any other department in the whole bay area, but you have chosen our city and i'm grateful for that. second is that today i especially appear before you to make sure that you understand what we are trying to do as an entire city with our police department. we're undergoing one of the biggest reform efforts in the history of this department, and our chief is leading that, and one of the reasons today is that you will undoubtedly be involved in

many of our confrontations that other police officers do probably on a daily basis. and the trend has been that there are more people that are victims of alcohol and drug abuse, and will exhibit in many occasions a danger to themselves or others and you will definitely be called upon to intervene in those situations. one of the principles of our police reform that is going on today, one that i greatly value is the principle of the sanctity of life. you probably already have been receiving training on that. but you also will be trained in the practice called "receiving time and distance." that is when you

are called upon, i think we'll ask you to do your best to create that time and distance for the purpose of preserving life. in that, i want you to know that the rest of the city is not simply asking you to carry the entire burden of that. ; that we're going to be partners with you the best that we can and one of those strong partnerships that i am and this administration is funding with the full cooperation of the police commission, your chief , all the management staff is to say that when you are asked to intervene and if you can create that time and distance with everybody's safety in mind, we'll then have mental health and public health experts to be at your side. so that they can do the specialty crisis intervention that you create the time and distance in order to have. we have got to work as a team.

if we're going save more lives out there, we have to make sure that we have the ability to get some professionals to work alongside with you, so we can intervene in the sometimes very tragic circumstances and if we can get the mental health expertise with the people standing behind me, the crisis intervention specialists, they are referred to as our entire team train by our public health department to work in these crisis situations, we're going save more lives and ultimate ly that is what you seek to do in your profession and we want everybody's lives to be here. you will get crisis intervention training. you will be introduced to the sanctity of life principle, but in the real-street situations that we have, it's your ability to implement

that in an effective way with the chief and all of the managers crisis and all of the trainers that are here. that we want to do it with your safety in mind and with the immediate people's safety in mind so we can gain that valuable, sometimes minutes to be able to introduce a professional. so that we can go on and perhaps save a person's life even more times than we have in the past. quite frankly, it has worked in no less than probably five situations in the past several months. and i was with the chief on one of those occasions, almost three to four hours in those negotiations and we saved everybody's life and everybody walked away. we need more of those opportunities, because there is drugs, there is drug abuse, there is a tremendous amount of mental illness and you can't do it all.

we don't want to tell you to do it all, but you have an invaluable part of that process. so those are two messages. again, thank you for choosing the city and county of san francisco to work in and we'll be there to create more classes as more of our officers decide they want to have an even better life and retire and at the same time, we need to get enough officers to meet the challenges of population, and the needs of every one of our neighborhoods. thanks for being officers in the city and county of san francisco. chief . >> first of all real fast i'm with the mayor every wednesday and the joke you heard i have to hear those every wednesday when i meet with him [laughter ]so the sympathy should be flowing my way. the incident that the mayor was talking about wasing at market and jones and it was a support armed with a firearm

and the officer showed incredible restraint and saves that mans a life. i have since met with the mother and father of the man's life that was saved and they are incredibly grateful to the san francisco police department. they spent about two hours praising our efforts, and giving us kudos for making sure that resolved the way it did. that is what we're trying to push forward and we all understand it's not always going to work out in our favor and things that happen that are well beyond the control of anybody wearing that uniform and we need to make sure we're crystal clear on that, but at same time, to approach every situations a life-saving situation. the department is moving in a different direction and we're trying to be at the front of this and not the back of the line. i just sat in an awards ceremony, voting process for department members to get silver medals and awards and most of the recipients came up in situations that they tracked about what they did

and talked about using time and distancing in deescalation. one an officer was stabbed in throat on the freeway on-ramp and went for his firearm which he reholstered to baton because he recognized that the situation changed and the individual no longer had the knife and he had presence of mind to think about it as it unfolded. another situation a gentleman was sharpening a knife and had residents holed because they were too afraid and they formulated the plan of creating time and distance and they subdued him and took him into custody without shooting him. arguably a year-and-a-half, two years ago the officer-involved shooting scenarios pure and simple. that is what we're trying to preach and push today and the group standing behind me are meant to give you additional tools in the tool belt when you have those situation and the san francisco police

department is proud to partner again with the department of public health on mental health services to the community and the san francisco police have worked with department of public health for years including mobile crisis teams providing assistance to child crisis services which helps youth in crisis. this new team of clinicians standing behind me isa valuable to san francisco police officers to support negotiators in the field and conduct crisis assessments and debrief persons involved and affected by incidents, and consult with victims and provide crisis services. they are going to also assist with our ongoing crisis intervention training program to help our officers improve their ability to recognize people with behavioral health problems. this program is part of an ongoing reform system that the department has undertaken over the past year and again, i'm talking about the san francisco police department being the lead, not following, not picking things up from everybody else. we were using a model that is still effective, but there

is say better model. and our people are now researching that model to bring it to san francisco with dealing with people in crisis. that is part of us taking the lead. we're under a collaborative reform initiative review by the department of justice right now that we invited in. because again, all of these changes are meant to make us better. so i want us all to make sure we embrace it and look behind me at these white jackets with another tool for the san francisco police department to use to enforce the sanctity of life on the streets and save people, because that is our primary mission to preserve life. i want to introduce director. >> thank you you and thank you all of you and i saw you standing at attention to so long and you are so fortunate to be part of a city and part of a police force that are going to be at the head of many police forces in this country in terms of really understanding the impact of

substance-abuse and mental health on many of the individuals that you may meet. behind me is a team that we have been over the last decade working very closely with the police, and coming to any incidents of violence and providing assessments and support to family members. we're going to be expanding this team with three clinical psychologists and social workers to work deeper with all of you and give you training how to engage and meet the needs of many of these individuals. and also, i have been on the calls and some of these interventions that the police chief talked about, and we believe we can really give you really important information about the background of an individual, who you may be negotiating with. and so we're very proud. i'm very proud of the team that is behind you in the white coats and i'm very proud of the team in the blue. and together we're going to be really providing you, i believe, some essential training and also support. and we believe that doing this together, we can reduce

-- improve the health of many of the individuals who you are going to come in contact and reduce the incidents that we have at times when we have to be more forceful with individuals. so we look forward to this. we're going to be quickly hiring these individuals, and the police will be involved with this in hiring. so we have the right type of individual who will work with us closely and by the new year, we'll be really working closely and responding. in between now and then, this team behind me will be taking that place until our new staff is expanded. we're 24/7, and we're located in the bay view, but we travel throughout the city in order to provide these services. so i want to thank you for your attention today and we look forward to working with you, and proud to see all of you today becoming new police officers. [ applause ] >> we're going to conclude this and any questions that

the press may have we'll be outside in the hallway for you.

>> we're on okay. >> good afternoon i'd like to call the public utilities commission to order mr. secretary. >> coordinating commissioner kwon commissioner caen is expected shortly and commissioner courtney that excused and we have quorum okay. thank you commissioners you have the

minutes of the october 25th meeting additions, deletions, or changes seeing none, can i have a motion. >> i'll move there is a motion that has been seconded any public comment? >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? the minutes are adopted. >> next item. >> is public comment this is a chance for any member of the public to comment to the commission under our jurisdiction that is not on the agenda foyer today any public comment? no okay seeing none, communications commissioners. any comments or questions on the agenda any public comment on

communication? >> cool bosca i'm here to speak to item 5 e on our communication report at the request of your cac chair that is the first time for me to do that i'm here to calling your attention what is included a resolution passed its by the advisory committee on october 18th this year this was a resolution urging the puc for environmental review for a new community center in the southeast community in particular, the resolution has quite a few of the whereas's hopeful a lot of communication at the cac but want to note the two roasted the advisory committee which was created to

give voice to the community and the residents urges the sfpuc to initiative the environmental review. a community center that benefits the existing residents and have age intern green house program and be it therefore resolved the cac yourselves the legacy of the bayview hunters point in the southeast community facility her the litigation agreement is fulfilled and oversight for the community and support >> community center that provides workforce and educational opportunity for the residents of the southeast san francisco so the cac was proud to act on that and wanted to make sure you're fully aware of if. >> thank you very much. >> any other public comment on communication items

okay. seeing none is there any other commission business? >> and there's none we'll move forward competing mr. kelly the drought update. >> can i have a slides please. good afternoon, commissioners ellen deputy manager steve richie is a out of the office this week i'll be giving you the water supply update with the reservoir storage at 77.6 percent this time last year we were at 45 plus a significant increase in storage you'll see why actually as we move through the presentation the other thing

to note the water bank 82.7 percent this year last year 32 percent is a significant improvement for us on our water system storming now looking at the other called reservoirs i will note that we're seeing most of the reservoirs in the stat and the one hundred of the historical average for this time of year and very close to one hundred if they're not there pedro is now - shaft at 6 percent and seeing them added one and 5 percent of historical storage the state is looking up from last year here's or here your locating precipitation to hetch hetchy the red line solid line the water year 2017 as you can see

that is tracking our wettest year 1983 for to get more precise the precipitation index for this week we're at the 6.8 inches for the year and october was credibly wet in the 95 years i have history this october was the seek highest 1983 the first highest with the precipitation and that has resulted in a significant amount of water available for san francisco if you see only the next slide we have 79 acre feet that is available to san francisco we're well above for the entire year last year and that is shown on the purple line oh, i'm sorry, i'm sorry i meant 2015 last year was the green line

we've not have available this time of year when what i added the amount needed for the storage on july 1st of this year three hundred and 73 like i said we're 79 acre on the way there. >> on the bayview the significant perspiration october was a good month we're at 4.8 inches for the year and typically this time of year one inch and nature this is significant our local system is starting to get charged up as a result of the storms but the next storms we will see significant progress as far as loma on the delivery side our customers have been responding to the wet weather and we are at two weeks ago one and 73 for the

last reporting week not shown on the slide one and 60 million gallons responding to the wet weather and that's all unless you have questions. >> thank you commissioners, any questions. >> i have a question. >> last year, we had el nino year that kind of shows no correlation between that and the perspiration here. >> actually, we heard from the lifetime people saying we're not showing an el nino i know there is talk in the press it is the feeling that is we're not showing an indication either way he's actually started to warn that is like 1997 a big year for us we signed off at the same

time. >> thank you. >> thank you any any public comment. >> i love the chart the 79 where we are and heading 73. >> uh-huh. >> i mean that is does that mean little 79 will stay there we've had no rain until july. >> yes. yes. >> i understand. >> yeah. >> thank you okay. thank you any public comment on the drought report mr. kelly. >> the next item. >> is the quarterly audit performance review nancy.

>> cynthia goldstein president and commissioner i'm nancy the director of internal controls that is for the audit for the fiscal year 2017 our recorded is the highlight for the puc for the external parties and summarizes the audit and the information to date 6 month calendar for all projects thank you. >> as highlighted in the executive summary 35 projects in stages of progress of total 5 were completed in one and each are in progress as we continue we have a number of projects definitely increased as more supplies audits are announced in the audit took place. >> so a typo the 5 audits were

that of the management of - the self-certification for the north america monitoring program the second audit a series of audits by the financial services team for the fiscal year 2016-2017 for each of the watermelon and hetch hetchy enterprises the auditor completed the phase two of the health program pursue looking at to quarter one and two and beyond the following are anticipated franchisees for the energy center for the completion in quarter two with a internal audit and the performance audit

for go solar program for rebate incentives and the audit in practices processing are the comprehensive financial report for 2016-2017 and the whole revenue requirements account for the prior fiscal year. >> as part of ongoing reporting of open year recommendations the port continued the prior recommendations is 87.4 percent the enclose to continue to management to the open recommendation increase response time and enforcing the will accountability and trained within the management we'll continue to keep the commission on the audit plan and with that, this concluded any update. >> commissioner any questions.

>> thank you for your work and at the risk of sounding like a broken record the audit program is first of all, second to none as far as i know in city government anywhere and 72 hours one of the things we rely on a as a commission to make sure the details we canned get involved if are handled properly so it is very available what you're doing i appreciate 9 work and don't let our silence lead you astray on that. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay mr. kelly. >> so the next item. >> is water enterprise capital improvement programs where we report dan. >> good afternoon commissioner dan wade first start off with the capital improvement report

some highlights in the cover letter i'll not read but one thing since the last reporting quarter that was made to extend the daily water extend the project by 4 months a decision by the project team that had a new impact on the schedule and some of the local projects that are currently under evaluation and we're anticipating rebaselineing of those projects i want to highlight that we'll be coming back to you early next year with revised schedules and the other thing i want to remind you the budgets are updated to encompass the cpi that was originally approved by the board

of supervisors other than nothing has changed in the report and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> on the wsip. >> thank you, commissioners. >> report to the baseline a baseline conversation. >> looking forward to the baseline conversation. >> yes. regarding the schedul schedules. >> now i'd like to turn to the water system improvement program if i can have the slides please. so the overall status of the wsip excuse me. is 93 percent complete as you can see the numbers of regional and the local numbers the local program essentially is complete all the projects in service we

do have an ongoing service with the lake merced pump station with electrical issues we'll be coming back later in december to ask for an extension of that project to resolve the issue the proximately costs has not changed the overall program is on schedule and budget that is played baseline earlier this year. >> and just to highlight a few accomplishments we did complete the final construction on the water treatment plant had a claim from the contractor that was successfully r0e68d through mediation we have the construction contract we were able also to finish final projects on the bay tunnel and the pipeline schematic upgrade and the other highlights similar

to the past received additional reward in the lobby of this building a display of the wsip awards more than 50 that is something we wanted to share with all the accomplishments of the project team. >> moving on to the projects still in preconstruction there is really only one the castro project excited about the fact we'll publish the last ceqa document later this month on november 30th for the draft review and expect comments anticipated certification there that will go to the construction there pending the ceqa certifications and finishes about the same time as the replacement at the end of the program the other thing that is in preconstruction the new wsip

projects we've approved earlier this year a corrections of items needed to meet the service goals promised under wsip so we'll initiated the designs and you'll see those start to go to construction in the next year. >> for the calaveras dam replacement, of course, the last project or the largest projects in the program we continue to make progress this photo with the dam on the left that is the existing dam and the red line is the future crest of the new dam and what i'd like to point out we started the dam itself we started earlier - actually, the beginning of october and placed the first list of clay in the foundation as you can see in the photo a couple of stock

piles in the elevated one a great deal of that is a drainage material that placed adjacent to the ground material that the clay core of the dam i'd like to sodium in on that i want to highlight how tedious this work when you start putting in the clay core for the dam how clean is clean as you can see this the the stern at the walk with the dam standing to the side because everybody wants to be sure the foundation is clean to make a good bond between the clay and the foundation that is extremely critically portion of the project in terms of the dam safety now i'd like say that it is not going to be this tedious throughout the duration it will really when they first get started everybody is on the same page regarding how clean is

clean before we move forward once everybody is on the same page that the pace starts to pickup, of course, a lot of handwork to make sure the clay is infected in the crevices and start using the equipment to bring this up as construction moves forward. >> that was actually, the first day with that photo right there we've recently completed the tower and as you can see the need to the original spring valley and the weather vein placed on top of the tower to be a portion of project that is capped off okay. so moving on to the alamany creek he wanted to show this picture from 1931 shortly after the construction when this was completed a dam that diverts

water to the calaveras reservoir on the creek essentially expands the water shed to the reservoir and the tunneled that takes the water from the facility to calaveras is on the right-hand side behind the concrete structure on the right-hand side of the photo i want to show that photo you'll go out there prior to construction it looks exactly the same since 1931 i in fact, i was out there it looks exactly that like that with water pouring over the top of the dam and the reservoir so this is is a recent photo of the dam there in the creek bed the water flows from the bottom left corner up to alameda creek and the tunnel

to the abutment and sierra club what we are doing building a fish ladder around the right hand of that dam to include assess of the fuel head into the water shed this project is moving along and this is a photo of looking down stream of the construction area that the dam is there in the middle of the photo and upstream what i see the new conduits for the water that is innovation to be collected on the right side of creek through screens and conveyed to the tunnel the project is most often along this concrete court prior to the one shut down will continue to the end of the program and one of the water storage recovery project the 13 well sites there 9 first

contract are essentially completed as we speak and kraeshthsdz looking for that next year there are issues to improve that due to regulations that - so changes made we anticipate start up the locations next year the primary challenge on this project remains citing two sites if the san bruno as well as bosca it is really getting their heads together on this. >> and the last project i mentioned about the regional habitat restoration the last project is the non-native vegetation remember we've made

good process 24 hour and right now there are buttoning it up for the winter and that will continue through 2015-2016 as well i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you, thank you commissioners, any questions for this gentleman. >> thank you. >> all right. any public comment. >> seeing none, mr. kelly. >> and that concludes my report. >> all right. >> we will move on to the consent agenda mr. secretary read the items. >> item 8 the may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests in which event the matter shall be removed from the consent calendar and considered as a

separate item at this or a future hearing. item a approve for the agreement c s two arthur's and b accept the contract approval for the modification decreasing the contract with the time extension of 19 consecutive day item c is removed from the calendar and item d acknowledge that staff is in the design process for the southeast community facility on evans and the development of an does remember green house program. >> commissioners any items you'd like like pulled off consent calendar. >> i'd like to move the consent calendar. >> okay. any request from the public to remove items can i have a motion? >> a second

any comment >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? the consent calendar a b and d items are carried thank you. >> and item 9 approve for the specifications and award contract in the anonymous of $31 million plus to the lowest qualified responsive bird the construction company. >> ms. ho. >> kathy ho for the infrastructure this project is to determine 0 existing facilities at the yard and to construct a new admin building and to have prefab buildings and 3 canopy structures 6 bids all

over the engineers estimate and and consulted with public works their noticing the issues with they're building projects they're coming in over engineers estimates the funding from for this additional base bid will be coming from the water shed center for the time being and the water shed center the payment is looking at at the engineering to trim costs on the water shed center. >> okay. >> any particular cause for the increase. >> i think there is so a lot of building construction throughout the city so public works they're saying the bids are over because of the construction that is going on throughout the city. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioners.

>> yeah. i don't understand so the water shed - the education center what's it called. >> the water shed center. >> so the money that's where the money is going to come from. >> the additional 5 to 6 millions. >> is that going to jeopardizes this project. >> we'll won't have a water shed center but value the engineering and come up with a more efficient way of building or constricting constricting that. >> i think also there are other projects that may come in and have contingency or because that is a later. >> - >> 09 projects so the a gm is looking at they're ten year capital to juggle to try to accommodate this construction as

well as the water shed work. >> i'd like to at some point i'd like to get an understanding the where the contingency money and the prelims for the water shed that a great project i'll hate to see it compromised. >> we'll come back with the water shed center and have the monies how how it is looking like. >> thank you. >> i'd like to point out that this is a trend that we're seeing given the number of cranes and how much work is out there a lot of projects within the city not only san francisco public works but also the port mta, bids over the engineering estimate and also we're seeing fewer bidders they're to busy don't want to bid we were

working on trying to resolve a settlement and you know negotiations not with the city but a private person to do work he was trying to get bidders and one didn't want to bid so this is really challenging and you know it is for me being with the city for 3 two years i've seen this cycle we need to try to figure out how we can you know position ourselves to at least be in a position you know where people will like to bid with us but the fact people are very, very busy we need to try to figure out you know we can maybe relook at our estimates to take into consideration. >> well, one thing there is not a lot of bidders so this is

i'll expect if things are that tight you might have 56 bidders but there were not a few so keep an eye on i know at other times because of steel projects went up it is pretty clear reason why so i'll just you know - we need to revisit the center but keep an eye on the trends to learn from that. >> through the chair can you look at that. >> great. >> thank you. >> can i have a motion? >> so moved. >> there is a motion that has been seconded any any public comment. all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? item 9 carries. >> item 10 please. item 10 approve the

specifications in the work contract in view of them of $29 million accomplice to the lottery quality and responsive bidder j m b construction. >> this item actually came in within the engineers estimate with the pipeline project part of the original wsip water supply projects that and this project will supply to m g d water when the project is completed we are putting out the - we are getting it done through the 3 construction cracks that is the third to do the pipeline work that connects the recycled water plant to little reservoir and pump station in golden gate bridge so the second contract that will be coming out for the treatment plant itself at

oceanside facility and the third piece will be the pillage station reservoir in golden gate park we had to startle the contracts they'll all finish so we can get this done for the whole facility. >> is there any uncertainty about reservoir and pump station locations. >> no, because i think their modifying what is in golden gate park they've put in a reservoir their not fully utilizing i think most of agreement are being worked out and you may have approved them earlier. >> okay there's been some shifting of position within rec and park we're at the place to spend

serious money. >> steve richie has met with them and this has not been brought up as an issue. >> commissioners. >> like to move the item. >> been seconded comment? >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? that motion carries. >> item 11 item 11 a working group on the cleanpowersf plant. >> ms. hale. >> good afternoon barbara hale assistant general manager for power first, i want to give a short update on cleanpowersf efforts before we go into the details of the workshop and talk about enrollment and activities on the enrollment we continue to successfully serve our customers our may enrollment i have no changes since the last meeting

we're serving over 74 active locations and the opt out is 2 percent so we've opposing to stay there on november one we began serving additional customers in districts 5 and 8 customer accounts shifted to cleanpowersf with the november meter reads so by the end of november we'll be able to report what our customer base we expect is that 3 thousand we are currently experiencing on opt out percentage of one .5 percent for the fall enrollment group we received i'm happy to report nine hundred and 27 up grades so we've reached the

milestone supergreen is more than one thousand accounts thank you san franciscans customers sign up our the future exploratoriums we're the fact of the matter go 74 percent are supergreen so that enthusiasm looks like that will continue which is great on the rates - the california public utilities commission will be issuing a decision on pending pg&e rate requests and transition rates we know will change the enacts to the hetch hetchy customers will be small and the revenue will be neutral with respect to cleanpowersf we are expecting the cleanpowersf customers to experience a small bill increase relative to pg&e

bundled service and newly until the next pg&e rate we expect to be an increase in the spring or summer so there will be a period of time where we expect our raised for cleanpowersf to be lower but the overall built enacts because of the tci a that pg&e charges our customers will be a small increase the proposed decision from the california public utilities commission is expected later this month on the issue we'll have an opportunity to comment on that and definitely take that the subject property and the puc will issue their decision rates will be on january one i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> on those topics. >> i have a question sorry. >> uh-huh.

>> will the pc i a question be revisit for the rates or. >> the pcia is a piece of california public utilities commission december decision yes and we are on the cpuc front and on the sort of cost non-bypassable charges we're active in a working group that the california public utilities commission established on the formal the pcia calculation and together with the other community choice agree grandfathe grandfathers - the methodologies will which was and next for the legislation season collaborating on what sort of changes to look for

legislatively to address various cac and investor utility issues including the sharing of investor utility costs with pcia customers so the plaintiff cia methodologies probably will not be finished or revised before the meeting on the rates; right? >> that's correct. >> yes. >> okay. >> i'm sorry one more question that 70 plus if so how does that complete with cac. >> that's one of the tops will be addressed if you indulge me the presentation we're switching into is really to see you know the effort is all about seeing how to accelerate the program

enrollment throughout san francisco you know back in december of 2017 we presented you with a business plan that business plan had some projections and now looking at how to accelerate these revised you we'll come back in the spring with that plan commissioner vietor you asked more information during the development of the plan and not land the plan on you in the spring this workshop will be responsive to that request with that introduction i'm going to turn it over to responsibility over to mike our cleanpowersf director. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. >> good afternoon. >> i might not be wearing a

chicago cubs tie (laughter) before i start, i felt like i'll be remiss not to congratulate you in the world series the giants fans acknowledge that but i was roll call our work basically a year ago and you announced at one point weigh launch the program and the cubs will win the world series they happened in the same year anyway congratulations offering great the presentation is focused on reviewing the work underway on the plan.

>> i'm going to start with the implementation approach and a consultant of the plan and finally i'll share some of the research we've been doing with the cac programs some initial lessons learned and the next step in the process. >> so this should be a familiar slide from the business plan activities and updates over the course of the past year the goals the commission adopted for cleanpowersf and we endeavored to consensus with the balance to those goals for affordable and reliable services for the portfolio with the lower green house gas emissions and invest our revenues in renewable

services and jobs, all while providing for long term rates and financial stability. >> and what have we done towards chief of police the goals first, the launch of the program with rates a quarter of a percentage after accounting for the fees that pg&e charges the customers second you adopted energy portfolio for the green product of 39 percent audible renewable with lower green house gas emissions overall and third you adapted a tariff an electrical vehicle rates and recently approved the steps for the cleanpowersf programs and we'll feet we are staff our

staff works on the tariff to be made available next year. >> as you may know cleanpowersf launched in may 2016 it became the second enterprise program of a single or county and lancaster is the on that formed in southern california all other cacs are transbay joint powers authority and the startup for an $8 million loan for working capital and also 17 line of credit to secure the transactions and we established cleanpowersf as a financially straight exit to provide the transparent to limit the financial risk on the power and

launched that has a 50 megawatt opt out raised we're projecting the program will be serving 50 megawatts within a year looking like we may go 20 percent. >> let's see - >> my colors get messed up but to help to guide staff in implementing cleanpowersf the commission adopted 5 best practices that cover the product content and the rate setting and phasing and the supply mettle and the reserve - all the policies are summarized but the narratives are included in the

december 8, 2015 packet the rates have to compete or beat pg&e and established rates are sufficient to recover the program costs, power supply sources are sufficient for the demand that the program has sufficient financial resources to meet the financial obligations, and that the program has necessary staffing and support systems in place this is another slide we've cycled from previous presentations this is the note

that cleanpowersf is the major initiative offering service citywide is an 8 fold increase putting it on power with the revenue perspective twice the size of water enterprise from a customer account perspective the statistics are in the bottom of the slide the account issue is a function of more multi family dwelling meters for electricity. >> the goal the growth plan is to accelerate the pace of growth in a financially responsible manner that is the goal that established ourselves this effort to do so the growth plan must answer fundamental

questions resolve restrident their suhr the program has the in the financial resources to increase it's power purchasing activities and organization alley handing growth and the metabolics to know when to hit the gas in terms of growth and hit the breaks for example the rate issues we were talking about before. >> will have holistic recommends we'll present to you this is a road map for program growth that identifies the environmental and economic benefits of growth and the additional power supplies to meet the city's goals a proposed schedule and approach to

financing the additional power supplies and establishing the enrollment plan. >> and these boxes identifying the components the the subject property area of the components we're working on. >> before you go on. >> yeah. >> i have a couple of questions about you going on one the 17 credit when does that get paid back. >> the letter of credit is sort of the backstop it is available - the way it was set up it will only be used in the case of a termination when a default the city and cleanpowersf is in default. >> we've not entered into a credit arrangement. >> the letter of credit is

j.p. morgan that instrument is available to the supplier in that instance. >> we're not going there. >> not at that point. >> the other piece as part of growth plan i want to flag it it came up before the actual product and increasing the greenness of that product question about natural gas and projections as the market continues to shift in renewables are more available and cheaper what that transition might look like. >> your anticipating a few slides from the slides don't address our questions ethic to claesht but as any questions for accelerating the pace i want that to be a component to alert

accelerate the pace of the product while maintaining the product liability as well. >> i think that once we go through the rest of the other programs weighing we'll see they're able to accelerate. >> oh, okay. >> at the did it for a cost or rational for a reason. >> yeah. this is paramount to the growth plan we identified the goal as established itself as a vehicle for chief financial officer an environmental goals among others and the city has articulated a goal to contribution the electrical supply to one hundred green house gas emissions by 2030 and cleanpowersf is the means by

which the city can really take action on that goal. >> more drarlg so that's going to be central to the growth plan and the gather source plan we do this year and every year going forward as market conditions change and the demand changes as well. >> okay. great. >> okay. so the development experience of other cpa's a number of slides summarizing the information on other counties have approached this the rates for the default electricity and the content of the portfolios the build out and compliery building and the approach to securing the financial supplies

first how have the operating cacs been to program growth is this bicycle chart i'll walk you through how to read this chart fairly data rich this bubble chart is the growth and relative in megawatts the cac program is identified on the list and the year on the y axis they represent a phase of the program with the first bubble with program launch and the last added full-scale the size of bubble is the size of the program in megawatts and if it is a solid line around the bubble the phase is completed and a doted line indicates the plan or provacative it is difficult to see the doted lines are difficult and the megawatt

values are identified in each of bubble sanborn map is the first program identified on the chart it indicates that the program launched in 2016 and we will expect to serve 43 afternoon megawatts that calendar year the phase one will be complete by the end of 2016 that's why you see the size growing to 63 megawatts in 2017 that is the first full year of energy on the phase one the remaining 3 bubbles in the green cleanpowersf sector which are for 2019, 2020 and 2021 show the additional phases projected in the december 2015 business plan to get to the citywide serve and you'll see two, that they are projected to be 13

megawatts at that time moving to the axis to the right the relative size of the cac programs and the first one is the lancaster that reaches maturity already and soma and mcare in the process of addressing community with the next year. >> right in the middle of the project is clean energy that launched in october of this year and peninsula what you'll see peninsula is planning a rapid planning growth in the process of carrying the resources to meet the projected demand of the additional phases as of this date peninsula planning on offering services to all customers in the service areas in 2017. >> a few additional observations once the fall

enforcement cleanpowersf will an as large as lancaster and on with soma around the same time in their project development it will be the largest cac given current conditions when full-scale and the chart also shows how fast the peninsula relatively to the cleanpowersf business schedule and accelerating that pays by 3 years i want to emphasize our growth plan work is examining how we can expedite future phases of enrollment so we can bring the benefits of clear energy to san franciscans a faster timeline and in a financially responsible manner. >> moving on to rates -

actually any questions on the last slide no. >> i have one - at build out you're looking at a fair amount of energy being served by the cac program how does that relate to the size of pg&es service area. >> that won't effect pg&es service area the cac programs won't principally because that service area is defined from the vantage point - >> from an energy perspective pg&e has published the projections they see 40 percent of their generation supply service migrating i believe by

2025 a 40. >> 40. >> how does that play into the pca. >> an important part because the issue at hand is that pg&e has made commitments on behalf of all the customers in the concept behind it is that the remaining customers are indifferent to customers departing for another service so it is important that pg&e is making the projections they'll saying they should be pulling back from making for commitments especially long term commitments to serve the customers that factors into the longevity of the cac over time to give cleanpowersf for example, we had customers depart pg&e shouldn't be ready to serve those

customers and assessing the values take a snapshot want commitments of low migration for the customers departure and if it defines the cost ongoing obligations so again, it is important and it didn't necessarily effect the amount of pcia the amount is relate to the cost of resources that are in pg&e portfolio against the estimated value so what pg&e can get from the market in it sells those resources. >> are some of the resources available to us to acquire from pg&e or to obtain energy from them. >> pg&e has made the resources available for sale and issue

offers and request bids pacific heights i periodically - up for discussion when it comes to how to manage the what we call the remaining customers indifference and fairness to cac customers and make sense for cpa's to buy the resources from pg&e. >> if they fit with our profile for energy we want in terms of the you know it is green house gas it seems to be a way of reducing their argument we can

unburdensome of these. >> sure a strong argument for cac taking the contract costs there should be no cac costs. >> we'll urban design greener so some of those probably won't - >> yes. that's true the type of resources can be at issue. >> didn't you say the pcia wouldn't be affected and still be the same amount even if the customers migrated. >> the migration of customers didn't effect the sail of the pcia that's true i was trying to say if p cia started buying from pg&e their portion of the contracts that pg&e has secured on behalf of the cac customers and they were paying the

contract price that pg&e is responsible for there would be no need for pcia. >> right. >> now the reason the pcia exists pg&e prices are expensive that brings the plaintiff cias prices up closure to where pg&e is. >> if they're losing 40 percent of their customers they should be pretty much less so the by cia should be going on dune over time what is included are long term contracts and much of that is renewable energy. >> they're still entering into but entering at a reduced rate right now because of the migration. >> that's right. >> well, because of market one clarification there the market

for renewables has improved draeveng since pg&e has procured under the portfolios contract. >> but if pg&e didn't have demand bus customers are switching to cac they're not actually in the market at these prices. >> my first reaction when i saw the chart there was a lot of cacs radio auto out you expect there be be a congestion in the market that prices may go up bus of not only our prices but others. >> we're aware of and considering and alcohol monitor it is hard to anticipate now without having done solicitation refresher not seen the trend part of it, it is the state and

the cacs are trying to build in any capacity on the margin our new projects and new projects are competing against one another to get those but there could be a pace issue where cac has won a certain amount of the renewable energy if their portfolios and others can't keep up that's one possibility and no anecdotal or no evidence at this time this is happening now. >> if i recall some discussion about trying to have the various cacs coordinate if purchasing the electives. >> so we'll have informal conversation how to coordinate and pool our buying power 80

together i think you're aware the cac has formed an association recently cal cac those radio did types of topics that come up with discussing the policy and regulatory policies that cac is assessing and coordinating i think there is a a real opportunity for cacs to look at how they might collaborative through the establishment of the sort of service oriented gp n to have greater quantities to drive down prices and offer certain services potentially call service services for example. >> thank you any other questions on this slide. >> okay. thank you. >> precede.

>> thanks. >> monkey off my back to rates so the affordability has on a hallmark of each cacs product at the time of launch each cac has offered lower rates at the time of launch, however, most cacs recognition they're not in control of the rates making the representation they'll meet pg&e for example, times running the rates i should be clear that the cost to mccustomers have exceeded pg&e when finding for the pg a not - operating cacs tend to have competitiveness rather than beating pg&e with

they're marketing materials. >> this slide compares the operating cac default with the snapshot of the rate difference for the e-1 the standard residential rate schedule for the investor and utilities for the default products that is cleanpowersf screen products the out liar is lancaster as i want to point out this lancaster is in pg&e territory they compete with a different illustrate and a lower generation rate and as a result their pcia rate is lower that explains the big difference in relative costs the chart indicates that while s

c e is 5 percent of their total generation rate pg&e pcia is 25 percent of the generation rate pursue the operating p - cac are offering rates that are all about 5 percent of one another one 5 percent of one another i want to point out that part of what we're doing with the platoon a studying the costs of our fellow xeefrts and to better understand the expansions to help to spread the costs that is something we'll do with the performa analysis and i will point out that our initial finds with that scaling helps significantly in recovering the

costs. >> okay. so this shied is not showing up well, i apologize for that but this is a slide that compares operating cacs electricity portfolio with pg&e's and starting from the left hand it shows pg&e's renewable content with a y to 100 percent and pg&e's is thirty percent renewable and 59 green house gas emissions free with 23 percent of that source from uniqueer and hydro if you move right to the right of chart you'll see the operating cost the first one is cleanpowersf and those figures represent the best current estimate given the

supply and demand to state of what our content for the green default product will look like and you'll see we're currently project by project our products to include 40 percent bundled bucket one renewable energy generated from california 36 percent green house hydro electrical sources that includes 15 percent aroused from hetch hetchy this year. >> and then 21 percent from other hydro traffic light supplies provided by the suppliers for for a total of 76 percent g h a content that 17 percent red there between and the other 24

percent if cal pine generating united this supply actually provides green house gas emissions savings when compared to purchases from california i s l and that is 10 percent savings. >> how long is that california contract for . >> 3 years. >> so the take-home message is that cleanpowersf is performing well as far when meeting the goals to delivering more clean energy to our customers. >> again apologizes for the light coloring but this is a forward-looking slide and i mentioned before the major part of growth plan will be identifying the rate and quantity in which we need to

increase our content that goal one goal to chief a g h g free this is the pg&e projection of the green house within now and 2030 difficult on the overhead i apologize the y is the portfolio coming from different energy types of and pg&e is project by project that will increase from thirty percent today to 53 percent in 2030. >> and it's g h g 50 to 73 in 2030. >> in contrast the doted line shows cleanpowersf renewable default product if it were to

maintain the 10 percent margin over pg&e that's essentially where we are we projected out to show where we are at which is 63 percent renewable and then the top line the green house commended it shows the green house gas emissions squeezed out the cleanpowersf portfolio over that timeframe. >> the growth plan is going to start to lay out the options for meeting this demand but i want to point out we're conduct a plan that provides for specifics to look at the optimal mix of the resources is and that's will be over a long term a 20-year and we'll be updating that plan on an annual basis.

>> can i - before we leave i'll be interested i mean, i said subtly in understanding maintaining affordable how quickly we can move forward and meet that 2030 goal going g h g free and moving go forward with renewable especially with the success of the program that that looks like because the climate is changing fast and it is incumbent to make sure we get to the other side of the bridge maybe go back and put that in that would be great. >> okay. >> just a few more slides that

is the comparison the build out and the complimentary programs that are offered or - to be clear this slide shows the gaps we are telegraph hill trying to fill the cac is not telegraph hill developing a program to the best of our knowledge and that cleanpowersf doesn't intend to offer the program i want to point out about energy efficiency the customers have access to city administrative code and program for the programs and we're planning to make sure that the customers are aware the programs to assess being a cleanpowersf customer didn't effect their goiblthd we

contribute to the funds of the programs improving offerings to specific to customer needs is a part of cleanpowersf programs future and again what this shows is areas we're telegraph hill staffing today the takeaway the largest cac program is the locate offerings here and cleanpowersf is implemented two, that meter energy and metering we're in the process of developing one the terrace a balanced payment plan and ongoing payment the staff is telegraph hill working on those today and we have to make the programs available next year. >> can i ask a question about the electrical vehicle rate how

do you see that structured is it too early. >> what we've done as far the electrical vehicle market is a developing market what we've done is adopted the rates that pg&e is offering we have a complimentary vehicle rate that pg&e is doing and they're two options and those options are intended to support different aspects of the market both - but with the goal of charging at appropriate times we have you 36 tend to have a different profile they discourage on usage an area that will be cleanpowersf will be good grounds for policy making in the sensed as we better

understand the electrical vehicle market and the customers needs cleanpowersf is tailor their rates for the time of use they con assume electrical vehicles are a sector of the market for demand response and it is something we can fill the box on the electrical vehicle side. >> so pg&e lowers your rates if you charge between 11:00 p.m. i think 5:00 a.m. but your rate overall is - we have electrical - electricity lower in that sense so i'm curious to see what that looks like down the line and car sharing hoping that electrical cars will be shared this is the best city in the world to have electrical cars and a later

discussion other plans for charging for people this is the structure and demands but love to see that someday if so it practical. >> an area we're in active discussions not only for cleanpowersf but for hvlt public utility services we have electrical charging stations and are working across the city to look at the best practices for extending the infrastructure and bringing our green house hetch hetchy power supply to that market so i think definitely intend to be more information on that. >> thank you. >> i was surprised out how the electrical vehicle rate if you get the preferable rate mooifrns are required we're at home during the day and actually cheaper to keep it under the old

plan i charge my car at night so for anyone that is similarly situations as us to the early morning hours and not compare during the peak it takes a different kind of structure. >> yeah. i think that you know it does speak to the evolving market a lot of research how customers use the electrical vehicles when they charge what they're driving patterns are, and you know, i think this is an exciting area for us for cleanpowersf to really actually move the green house needle further by not just addressing the electrical supply but also to address the transportation sector but i think another layer there will be looking at the cleanpowersf demand characteristics and aggregate and trying to direct consumers

to the times that benefit cleanpowersf overal program from a financial perspective. >> okay last but not least we are looking closely at the credit requirements be associated with the growth all cacs have some form of financial support from the local city and county member agencies with the transportation authority or private lender had distinguishes out the usage of a lockbox of escrow account every other cac launched to date has utilized the lockbox to have the startup supplies cleanpowersf uses the letter of credit we discussed

before and twerpt launching the cleanpowersf a year ago only a couple of suppliers with the box and the city of lancaster established the first multi party lockbox at the valet the peninsula adopted the multi party lockbox for example, and cleanpowersf opted out to use a line of credit to launch the program quickly and to be the best competitive we only have a couple of supplies and wanted to reach as many supervisors to get a competitive offer for the supply costs the lockbox has been critical to help to chief and plan by paid

programs as a result the evaluation of the lockbox option will be a key program to our work going forward hello. >> okay. >> so what are how findings and next steps we're very much in the startup mode we can claim that the program has been a success thus far we've launched the competitive rates and fewer green house gas, however, we'll be bringing more information on the performance of the program over several months as the year concluded and other cpa's use lockboxes to secure payment to

suppliers without injuring the cost to the supplies that is representative in the comparative chart with the extensively priced lockbox are a key ingredient for more radical scaling than cleanpowersf projected in the business plan which was really an organic growth using the program revenues and additional collateral through a letter of credit in addition to your consideration of lockbox arrangement re developed the recommendations and conduct further analysis to understand what the program financial reserve should be and adjust the program and reserve policies to get - give the program more time to meet them for example, and other renewable energy like category 2 renewables how much

do we expect those to meet the growth rate a communication outreach perspective and power purposing and financial purchasing perspective and critically what is the staffing report to insure that we make no compromises in customer services and capability as we expand and with that, don't forget to join cleanpowersf. >> thank you. i noticed one of the bus stops in any neighborhood has a very nice large poster that advertises definitely it is very good. >> we initiated an campaign

that includes the posters they're very nice. >> thank you, commissioner any questions. >> i have one comment. >> first of all, thank you so much for your hard work i know that commissioner vietor was a strong advocate and but you guys played pokeer and had to show your hand against an occupant that didn't have to this is very, very masterful i think that i wish chicago could have something like that this program the way you guys were aggressor aggressive and thank you for the advocates this is a great year thank you very much for your work. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> public comment. mr. brooks. >> good afternoon,

commissioners eric brooks sf green party/our city/sf clean energy advocates. and grassroots organization of our city a lot of hats as commissioner knows i did a deeper dive into the baseball met for i spent a lot of time growing in chicago i am from california i used to be skeptical i believe in incarceration i've been waiting one and 8 years not only in my lifetime for the cubs to win the world series the met for is great what we've achieved with cleanpowersf and the cubs winning the world series that is

fortuitous but the world series is taking building renewable efficiency and the focus it program needs to have going from this point forward we need to win our up and down the is not pg&e but the climatic change that will destroy that pg&e is a good picture for the bad guys but the bad guy is the climatic change like the baseball team to win the world series against the climatic crisis cleveland is apologizes to cleveland you have to have an entire team of 9 positions to win the game you can't just say all right i'll try putting out a pinch and try

a shortstop and make them a catcher and maybe we'll add some outside fielders and base men later in the game if you do that you'll lose the game and again, the game is building renewables not just - we need to build local and other renewables so standards touch on the edges we really need to do focusing on getting all the players gathered and working together we have efficiency renewable and solar and wind and regional wind and demand response all those things being planned as a team effort in a network of resources all put together that all go out as a planned thing where a coach plans a game so

we're getting the best economies and the berries integrations of the resources together and putting the whole team on the field is our fight again, the climatic change and beat the other team that's it cubs win. >> thank you mr. brooks. >> see i've always known he's a great guy. >> jason fried, executive officer. a whole heck of a lot it cover in 3 minutes i'll do my best first of all, some of the things commissioner vietor i agree we need to go as green as possible one our program has a restriction how we get our electricity are all the restrictions needed they're keeping us in the way of having a more money important build out

and more money for efficiency and as well as more money to go out address find on the resources of renewable energy that work perfectly fine climatic change is an international thing didn't matters where the green house gas - we need to have a contribution into our grid but taking a serious look are we regulating too much where the electricity comes from that hampers our ability to get more electricity within the last week i got an e-mail about a program they're getting rebates for people and helping to pay for the installation of charging station within our property we should be looking at ways to

do that not only are we encouraging people to use greener trouble to our ability to get people to electrical vehicles helps to grow our energy needs but cleaner electricity and getting them off of dirty fossil fuel i'll encourage us to look at there's a pilot program but want to take into account that as well getting into some of the discussions we are going on around the long term contracts from the p cia i know your monitoring that one thing the deblow plant closure that can be impacted and one thing to keep in mind you don't need to go out and get contracts but the old contracts that i'll defend pg&e for a quick second it is rare they were great and needed at

the time but they're much more expensive and figure out how we balance that load for them without having them increase and keep the costs fair to the cac customers at the same time then the final one thank you to the staff their trier of fact to work hard but need to look at how we're getting money from the charge i can guarantee you the department can do programs better but right now pg&e gets to take the credit for the department of the environment but great if we got did money instead - so i encourage to look at that if we can get that money and not through pg&e continuation a better marketing program for us. >> i see some needing heads

we'll be taking comments for next year for the world series and the of digesters completed. >> can i make a comment. >> so i appreciated the public comments and just wanted to first emphasis in the grow plan a couple of pieces will be great to include we want to keep an eye on the local build question having when some flight assessments might happen that's in the mix angles ago to talk about what might be the low hanging fruit with the local build out and to build resiliency we have a power generation and from a job perspective there is a lot of opportunity i'll thinking in the grow plan that would be great

i'm hoping when we talk about accelerating the market mix as soon as possible for 100 percent renewable g h g freeze the question of restrictions i'll imagine will be addressed as part of that because they were reasons to put the restrictions on and some might be valid but when we talk about acceleration whether that is regulatory or otherwise to leave it - >> i want to point out we talk about affordability with pcia and other pcias are doing rec they have rates that are cheaper and at the same time, we wanted to do local build that are more expensive so we're still with

that you know juggling act we're trying to do it responsibly and we look at the lockbox we can move towards but i think we agree that maybe very should look at some of the restrictions we have and the other thing you you know it maybe challenging to put the current contract and decrease the costs we may not be - below pg&e. >> right. >> so, i mean we have to revisit all of this i'm saying we're cautiously moving forward that's why i don't want to start building stuff and be more expensive than pg&e. >> yeah. >> that's why i'm saying you know we look at everything. >> i think this is some a shifting collapse the i can't do what we purpose pg&e assets as

we grow our program it is interesting piece of mix and just in the growth or business plan understanding it can change to factor all the things it i dynamic. >> any other questions from the commissioners general public comment thank you all no action required on that item staff will be back early next year for follow-up. >> hi emilio nice shirt (laughter) okay. >> we're about to go into closed session. >> madam secretary call the items for closed session. >> item 14 unmitigated claim

jason and selena and item 15 the existing claims along the martel and pro 21 will not be heard today. >> thank you any public comment on items to be heard in closed session? >> seeing none, can i have a motion? >> to assert the attorney/client privilege. >> to assert. >> move to >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? and that motion carries and we'll now go into closed session. >> mr. president, a quick moment for the crews to come join harlan and i thank you for honoring the world series champions they have - invite commissioner caen. >> can i vote.

>> yes. please. (laughter). >> did you emilio? >> since you don't have a hat to we're ar.

>> (laughter). with my we're back in open session. during closed session approved settlement on items 14 and 15 can i have a motion? >> whether to disclose during closed session. >> move not to disclose second and. >> all in favor, say i. >> i.

>> opposed? that that motion carries and is there any other new business? okay i should annoyance that the next meeting on november 22nd is cancelled because of thanksgiving we've been setting up appropriate a meeting for that and recognize that is - a birthday (laughter) >> happy birthday. >> any other business before this commission. >> well, how about happy new year ray for the cubs. >> okay we're now -

>> good morning welcome and thank you for being here bright and early on a post halloween morning and i hope everybody had their fill of candy happy to be joined by my chef deputy and city attorney bother working diligently on the case we'll discuss this morning and filed documents this morning as you may know a natural civil rights equal justice under the law filed a federal claishgs illuminate again san francisco amending the state money balances was unconstitutional it

unfairly allows the wealthy to go free and the poor remain in jail it was filed two the city and city and sheriff hennessey oversees the city and county of san francisco jails was added and, of course, dismisses the claims against the state and city my office represents the sheriff's as legal counsel up until now in my office harnt taken a position since this was filed we worked diligently to look at the argument and what they're seeking in the value it of the bail law and hard work to protect the taxpayers from enforcing the law we successfully done those things and now the heart of issue the state failed system is unzuckerberg san francisco general constitutional people andrew's on suspension of a crime are held in jail unless at

the pay money as collateral those amounts are a bail schedule and state law requires the supreme court judges in each certificate of occupancy and the sheriff enforce if you can pay you, get out of jail if you cannot you don't get out of jail that is a reflex to the community whether you can pay for your freedom a two tier stop one with money and one without not right and in keeping with the constitution it is time for it to stop to echo u.s. attorney general loretta relinquish no price tag on justice i believe the states bail system specifically the bail system before arrangement is unconstitutional that's why my

office filed papers in supreme court we'll not defend that law we are innovate taking issue with the law but about the existing bail process prior to the point of arrangement at arrangement a judge has the opportunity to review the circumstances and make an individual bail determination based on all the facts a bail schedule that lists the price of freedom without consideration of the individual circumstances is not serving the interest of the government or the public and unfairly discriminates against the poor government entities in other states tackle the problem in lawsuits like alabama, kansas, missouri and mississippi and louisiana have reformed their action but my action is the first time that a government entity has refused to

- dangerous people need to remain incarcerated how much money someone has is not picture measure of the 245e9 right now we have a system that someone can be locked up for days because they can't pay for your freedom and someone dangerous what about free someone for marijuana for sale can be locked up and not by a bail but someone paying one and 50 thousand can be out for rape that needs to change that's why we're taking this step this is decades in robert f kennedy were attorney general only one factor determines whether a defendant stays in jail not guilt or innocence but the nature of the crime not the character of the defensive that is money in

testifying in congress the attorney general told a store 54 days in jail one person couldn't afford a bail for the maximum penalty was 5 days in jail two years later congress passed its the bail reform act in 1968 that polishes - the federal system uses a model that cantonese those people that are a flight reflex or danger to others maybe condition a dna sample or curfew and bail cannot urban design set in an amount a person couldn't afford in 1987 our society liberty that the norman and detention prior to trial or without trial is the exemption states, however, have not necessarily followed suit as an example report this issue

by the nonprofit non-partisan prison found 6 hundred and 36 thousand people locked up and in more than 3 thousand jails in the united states 70 percent are held pretrial meaning not convicted of a crime or legally presumed innocent in february 2015 did u.s. department of justice arguing a bail that carding people before trial solely because of they're not able to pay for this is violating the fourth amendment the u.s. department of justice said they must not cause people to be incarcerated solely because they can't pay keeping people locked up for no reason they can't post bail has

other consequences people loss jobs and family fall apart and taxpayers don't need this in terms of the current bail some h system is not only unconstitutional but bad public policy the district of columbia has been very pro-active in the area and don't use prearrangement bail it workouts well, in the district of columbia and in fiscal year 2017 the district of columbia were realized 98 percent avoided arrest for violent crimes and 88 percent made all air scheduled court pioneers that is an issue that has gardened national attention and the chief court

justice convened a working group to come up with recommendation by december of 2017 to deal with that situation which everybody knows needs to be reformed we're hopeful with our action we'll give impetus u tuesday and make sure we have a reformation of a bail system no doubt here in california unconstitutional you may note a need for reform for the bail system and the laws governing it we plan on working with the senator to make sure that the today's action has impetus to have reform at the state level to have a bail system here in california it is constitutional and fair and workable and protects the public that is it is intended to protect thank you all for coming i look forward to

any questions question. >> bob. >> (inaudible). >> there will be two options number one the states attorney general can step in and defend the snuflt of the state law or number two already been a motion intervened by and bail bondsman that motion was denied i would anticipate that they'll renew that motion either the attorney general or the interskweern and rogers will make that determination and i think that is likely they'll be someone to step up to defend the uncomfortably.

>> (inaudible). >> no i don't think that is likely their won't be changes tomorrow are today bob alluded it to say likely that something else will make an effort to defend the law we'll have to wait and see how that litigation plays out this is a pretty good big statement the first time the city has stepped up it sends a message allowed there is changes in the future i think that at the lefrs the potentially or the evolve outlet there is a change

in the system we have i don't anticipate we won't see anything in the self disease. >> not necessarily a call to action a concrete step it is a further impetus to a movement growing across the country there are other advocacy groups that have a call to action my job to defend the laws and what i think one is unconstitutional i'll not step out and defend this is what we're doing today. >> (inaudible). >> do you know what the plan say you guys are right. >> well the reformation has to starred in the state allergic i don't have the power assemblyman boca will be the leaders on the reform we'll wait and see there

is a state mandate that each court system in each county as 5 bail schedule this is something that has to happen at the state level. >> it is been in - what - >> decades this is the current system been around for decades and it is the combrefrnd as i alluded to nationally robert kennedy was talking about this in 1964 this is the norman in the united states and it certainly the norm in california that is a certain a very, very good step. >> what happened everything you don't have (inaudible) i guess i'm curious as to the people that have the money they'll basically be required to

pay. >> if you look at it - what needs to happen everyone needs to be treated fairly and equally under the law with the current prearrangement bail system a person who has the means just pays the money and walks out the as a matter of fact everybody should be treated equal in post arrangement bail everyone has their case yielding reviewed by the judge that makes a determination if they're a flight reflex what's the risk to sorority of that yield being out on the streets here in prearrangement bails we don't have that we need fair enforcement of justice to make sure that all cases with yielding reviewed by a judge who makes sure that that person does not pose a flight reflex or minimize the risk to the community and a variety of other ways in which you can assure

that yield is make their court appearance and show up for trial i can have all sorts of supervision from check in these with the court to e-mails, to supervised visits to make sure that yield is supervised and make sure they're returning not based on money and everybody has to have their case adjudicated in a fair even way under the provision of a court officer. >> (inaudible). >> well, they're - >> the same standard or still have to pay. >> we'll have to see every case is jashthd should be adjudicated by a judge certain a bail might not a component but not only the with only way to pay and get out.

>> (inaudible). >> the money bail is a bad thing - (inaudible). >> well, i'll say i'm not going to get into policy but certainly a prearrangement before a case it look at by a judge money in and of itself in our view as the only means unconstitutional what roles the money plays down the road as a component after a judge reviews a case we'll have to see but right now what we are doing to prearranging bail and having money and wealth the only

dictator yeah. >> relative to the - a judge adjudicates a case well in a system you know each person stands out in - (inaudible). >> i don't think so no, no washington, d.c. public school don't does that the federal system does that and you know what i've got to say convenience shouldn't be the dictator of what is just and what sorts of justice people charged with a crime get we're all sdiermentd to equal protection under the law only if it is convenient it does not say or how much money

we have that's right. >> you're referring (inaudible) we filed affirming today, we'll nobody be defending the case i'm saying that is unconstitutional. >> (inaudible). >> correct. >> okay thank >> >> pd united states of america think outside the box that have