tv Public Utilities Commission 11816 SFGTV November 10, 2016 12:00am-4:01am PST
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>> we're on okay. >> good afternoon i'd like to call the public utilities commission to order mr. secretary. >> coordinating commissioner kwon commissioner caen is expected shortly and commissioner courtney that excused and we have quorum okay. thank you commissioners you have the minutes of the october 25th meeting additions, deletions, or changes seeing none, can i have a motion. >> i'll move there is a motion that has been seconded any public comment?
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>> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? the minutes are adopted. >> next item. >> is public comment this is a chance for any member of the public to comment to the commission under our jurisdiction that is not on the agenda foyer today any public comment? no okay seeing none, communications commissioners. any comments or questions on the agenda any public comment on communication? >> cool bosca i'm here to speak to item 5 e on our communication report at the
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request of your cac chair that is the first time for me to do that i'm here to calling your attention what is included a resolution passed its by the advisory committee on october 18th this year this was a resolution urging the puc for environmental review for a new community center in the southeast community in particular, the resolution has quite a few of the whereas's hopeful a lot of communication at the cac but want to note the two roasted the advisory committee which was created to give voice to the community and the residents urges the sfpuc to initiative the environmental review. a community center that benefits
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the existing residents and have age intern green house program and be it therefore resolved the cac yourselves the legacy of the bayview hunters point in the southeast community facility her the litigation agreement is fulfilled and oversight for the community and support >> community center that provides workforce and educational opportunity for the residents of the southeast san francisco so the cac was proud to act on that and wanted to make sure you're fully aware of if. >> thank you very much. >> any other public comment on communication items okay. seeing none is there any other commission business? >> and there's none we'll move
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forward competing mr. kelly the drought update. >> can i have a slides please. good afternoon, commissioners ellen deputy manager steve richie is a out of the office this week i'll be giving you the water supply update with the reservoir storage at 77.6 percent this time last year we were at 45 plus a significant increase in storage you'll see why actually as we move through the presentation the other thing to note the water bank 82.7 percent this year last year 32 percent is a significant improvement for us on our water
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system storming now looking at the other called reservoirs i will note that we're seeing most of the reservoirs in the stat and the one hundred of the historical average for this time of year and very close to one hundred if they're not there pedro is now - shaft at 6 percent and seeing them added one and 5 percent of historical storage the state is looking up from last year here's or here your locating precipitation to hetch hetchy the red line solid line the water year 2017 as you can see that is tracking our wettest year 1983 for to get more precise the precipitation index for this week we're at the 6.8
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inches for the year and october was credibly wet in the 95 years i have history this october was the seek highest 1983 the first highest with the precipitation and that has resulted in a significant amount of water available for san francisco if you see only the next slide we have 79 acre feet that is available to san francisco we're well above for the entire year last year and that is shown on the purple line oh, i'm sorry, i'm sorry i meant 2015 last year was the green line we've not have available this time of year when what i added the amount needed for the storage on july 1st of this year three hundred and 73 like i said
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we're 79 acre on the way there. >> on the bayview the significant perspiration october was a good month we're at 4.8 inches for the year and typically this time of year one inch and nature this is significant our local system is starting to get charged up as a result of the storms but the next storms we will see significant progress as far as loma on the delivery side our customers have been responding to the wet weather and we are at two weeks ago one and 73 for the last reporting week not shown on the slide one and 60 million gallons responding to the wet weather and that's all unless
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you have questions. >> thank you commissioners, any questions. >> i have a question. >> last year, we had el nino year that kind of shows no correlation between that and the perspiration here. >> actually, we heard from the lifetime people saying we're not showing an el nino i know there is talk in the press it is the feeling that is we're not showing an indication either way he's actually started to warn that is like 1997 a big year for us we signed off at the same time. >> thank you. >> thank you any any public comment. >> i love the chart the 79 where we are and heading 73.
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>> uh-huh. >> i mean that is does that mean little 79 will stay there we've had no rain until july. >> yes. yes. >> i understand. >> yeah. >> thank you okay. thank you any public comment on the drought report mr. kelly. >> the next item. >> is the quarterly audit performance review nancy. >> cynthia goldstein president and commissioner i'm nancy the director of internal controls that is for the audit for the
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fiscal year 2017 our recorded is the highlight for the puc for the external parties and summarizes the audit and the information to date 6 month calendar for all projects thank you. >> as highlighted in the executive summary 35 projects in stages of progress of total 5 were completed in one and each are in progress as we continue we have a number of projects definitely increased as more supplies audits are announced in the audit took place. >> so a typo the 5 audits were that of the management of - the self-certification for the north
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america monitoring program the second audit a series of audits by the financial services team for the fiscal year 2016-2017 for each of the watermelon and hetch hetchy enterprises the auditor completed the phase two of the health program pursue looking at to quarter one and two and beyond the following are anticipated franchisees for the energy center for the completion in quarter two with a internal audit and the performance audit for go solar program for rebate incentives and the audit in practices processing are the comprehensive financial report for 2016-2017 and the whole
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revenue requirements account for the prior fiscal year. >> as part of ongoing reporting of open year recommendations the port continued the prior recommendations is 87.4 percent the enclose to continue to management to the open recommendation increase response time and enforcing the will accountability and trained within the management we'll continue to keep the commission on the audit plan and with that, this concluded any update. >> commissioner any questions. >> thank you for your work and at the risk of sounding like a broken record the audit program is first of all, second to none
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as far as i know in city government anywhere and 72 hours one of the things we rely on a as a commission to make sure the details we canned get involved if are handled properly so it is very available what you're doing i appreciate 9 work and don't let our silence lead you astray on that. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay mr. kelly. >> so the next item. >> is water enterprise capital improvement programs where we report dan. >> good afternoon commissioner dan wade first start off with the capital improvement report some highlights in the cover letter i'll not read but one thing since the last reporting quarter that was made to extend
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the daily water extend the project by 4 months a decision by the project team that had a new impact on the schedule and some of the local projects that are currently under evaluation and we're anticipating rebaselineing of those projects i want to highlight that we'll be coming back to you early next year with revised schedules and the other thing i want to remind you the budgets are updated to encompass the cpi that was originally approved by the board of supervisors other than nothing has changed in the report and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> on the wsip. >> thank you, commissioners. >> report to the baseline a baseline conversation. >> looking forward to the
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baseline conversation. >> yes. regarding the schedul schedules. >> now i'd like to turn to the water system improvement program if i can have the slides please. so the overall status of the wsip excuse me. is 93 percent complete as you can see the numbers of regional and the local numbers the local program essentially is complete all the projects in service we do have an ongoing service with the lake merced pump station with electrical issues we'll be coming back later in december to ask for an extension of that
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project to resolve the issue the proximately costs has not changed the overall program is on schedule and budget that is played baseline earlier this year. >> and just to highlight a few accomplishments we did complete the final construction on the water treatment plant had a claim from the contractor that was successfully r0e68d through mediation we have the construction contract we were able also to finish final projects on the bay tunnel and the pipeline schematic upgrade and the other highlights similar to the past received additional reward in the lobby of this building a display of the wsip awards more than 50 that is something we wanted to share
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with all the accomplishments of the project team. >> moving on to the projects still in preconstruction there is really only one the castro project excited about the fact we'll publish the last ceqa document later this month on november 30th for the draft review and expect comments anticipated certification there that will go to the construction there pending the ceqa certifications and finishes about the same time as the replacement at the end of the program the other thing that is in preconstruction the new wsip projects we've approved earlier this year a corrections of items needed to meet the service goals promised under wsip so we'll initiated the designs and you'll
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see those start to go to construction in the next year. >> for the calaveras dam replacement, of course, the last project or the largest projects in the program we continue to make progress this photo with the dam on the left that is the existing dam and the red line is the future crest of the new dam and what i'd like to point out we started the dam itself we started earlier - actually, the beginning of october and placed the first list of clay in the foundation as you can see in the photo a couple of stock piles in the elevated one a great deal of that is a drainage material that placed adjacent to the ground material that the clay core of the dam i'd like to sodium in on that i
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want to highlight how tedious this work when you start putting in the clay core for the dam how clean is clean as you can see this the the stern at the walk with the dam standing to the side because everybody wants to be sure the foundation is clean to make a good bond between the clay and the foundation that is extremely critically portion of the project in terms of the dam safety now i'd like say that it is not going to be this tedious throughout the duration it will really when they first get started everybody is on the same page regarding how clean is clean before we move forward once everybody is on the same page that the pace starts to pickup, of course, a lot of handwork to make sure the clay is infected in the crevices and
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start using the equipment to bring this up as construction moves forward. >> that was actually, the first day with that photo right there we've recently completed the tower and as you can see the need to the original spring valley and the weather vein placed on top of the tower to be a portion of project that is capped off okay. so moving on to the alamany creek he wanted to show this picture from 1931 shortly after the construction when this was completed a dam that diverts water to the calaveras reservoir on the creek essentially expands the water shed to the reservoir and the tunneled that takes the water from the facility to
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calaveras is on the right-hand side behind the concrete structure on the right-hand side of the photo i want to show that photo you'll go out there prior to construction it looks exactly the same since 1931 i in fact, i was out there it looks exactly that like that with water pouring over the top of the dam and the reservoir so this is is a recent photo of the dam there in the creek bed the water flows from the bottom left corner up to alameda creek and the tunnel to the abutment and sierra club what we are doing building a fish ladder around the right hand of that dam to include assess of the fuel head into the
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water shed this project is moving along and this is a photo of looking down stream of the construction area that the dam is there in the middle of the photo and upstream what i see the new conduits for the water that is innovation to be collected on the right side of creek through screens and conveyed to the tunnel the project is most often along this concrete court prior to the one shut down will continue to the end of the program and one of the water storage recovery project the 13 well sites there 9 first contract are essentially completed as we speak and kraeshthsdz looking for that
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next year there are issues to improve that due to regulations that - so changes made we anticipate start up the locations next year the primary challenge on this project remains citing two sites if the san bruno as well as bosca it is really getting their heads together on this. >> and the last project i mentioned about the regional habitat restoration the last project is the non-native vegetation remember we've made good process 24 hour and right now there are buttoning it up for the winter and that will
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continue through 2015-2016 as well i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you, thank you commissioners, any questions for this gentleman. >> thank you. >> all right. any public comment. >> seeing none, mr. kelly. >> and that concludes my report. >> all right. >> we will move on to the consent agenda mr. secretary read the items. >> item 8 the may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests in which event the matter shall be removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. item a approve for the agreement c s two arthur's and b accept
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the contract approval for the modification decreasing the contract with the time extension of 19 consecutive day item c is removed from the calendar and item d acknowledge that staff is in the design process for the southeast community facility on evans and the development of an does remember green house program. >> commissioners any items you'd like like pulled off consent calendar. >> i'd like to move the consent calendar. >> okay. any request from the public to remove items can i have a motion? >> a second any comment >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? the consent calendar a b and d items are carried thank you. >> and item 9 approve for the
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specifications and award contract in the anonymous of $31 million plus to the lowest qualified responsive bird the construction company. >> ms. ho. >> kathy ho for the infrastructure this project is to determine 0 existing facilities at the yard and to construct a new admin building and to have prefab buildings and 3 canopy structures 6 bids all over the engineers estimate and and consulted with public works their noticing the issues with they're building projects they're coming in over engineers
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estimates the funding from for this additional base bid will be coming from the water shed center for the time being and the water shed center the payment is looking at at the engineering to trim costs on the water shed center. >> okay. >> any particular cause for the increase. >> i think there is so a lot of building construction throughout the city so public works they're saying the bids are over because of the construction that is going on throughout the city. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioners. >> yeah. i don't understand so the water shed - the education center what's it called. >> the water shed center. >> so the money that's where the money is going to come from. >> the additional 5 to 6
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millions. >> is that going to jeopardizes this project. >> we'll won't have a water shed center but value the engineering and come up with a more efficient way of building or constricting constricting that. >> i think also there are other projects that may come in and have contingency or because that is a later. >> - >> 09 projects so the a gm is looking at they're ten year capital to juggle to try to accommodate this construction as well as the water shed work. >> i'd like to at some point i'd like to get an understanding the where the contingency money and the prelims for the water
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shed that a great project i'll hate to see it compromised. >> we'll come back with the water shed center and have the monies how how it is looking like. >> thank you. >> i'd like to point out that this is a trend that we're seeing given the number of cranes and how much work is out there a lot of projects within the city not only san francisco public works but also the port mta, bids over the engineering estimate and also we're seeing fewer bidders they're to busy don't want to bid we were working on trying to resolve a settlement and you know negotiations not with the city but a private person to do work
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he was trying to get bidders and one didn't want to bid so this is really challenging and you know it is for me being with the city for 3 two years i've seen this cycle we need to try to figure out how we can you know position ourselves to at least be in a position you know where people will like to bid with us but the fact people are very, very busy we need to try to figure out you know we can maybe relook at our estimates to take into consideration. >> well, one thing there is not a lot of bidders so this is i'll expect if things are that tight you might have 56 bidders but there were not a few so keep
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an eye on i know at other times because of steel projects went up it is pretty clear reason why so i'll just you know - we need to revisit the center but keep an eye on the trends to learn from that. >> through the chair can you look at that. >> great. >> thank you. >> can i have a motion? >> so moved. >> there is a motion that has been seconded any any public comment. all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? item 9 carries. >> item 10 please. item 10 approve the specifications in the work contract in view of them of $29 million accomplice to the lottery quality and responsive
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bidder j m b construction. >> this item actually came in within the engineers estimate with the pipeline project part of the original wsip water supply projects that and this project will supply to m g d water when the project is completed we are putting out the - we are getting it done through the 3 construction cracks that is the third to do the pipeline work that connects the recycled water plant to little reservoir and pump station in golden gate bridge so the second contract that will be coming out for the treatment plant itself at oceanside facility and the third piece will be the pillage station reservoir in golden gate park we had to startle the
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contracts they'll all finish so we can get this done for the whole facility. >> is there any uncertainty about reservoir and pump station locations. >> no, because i think their modifying what is in golden gate park they've put in a reservoir their not fully utilizing i think most of agreement are being worked out and you may have approved them earlier. >> okay there's been some shifting of position within rec and park we're at the place to spend serious money. >> steve richie has met with them and this has not been brought up as an issue. >> commissioners.
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>> like to move the item. >> been seconded comment? >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? that motion carries. >> item 11 item 11 a working group on the cleanpowersf plant. >> ms. hale. >> good afternoon barbara hale assistant general manager for power first, i want to give a short update on cleanpowersf efforts before we go into the details of the workshop and talk about enrollment and activities on the enrollment we continue to successfully serve our customers our may enrollment i have no changes since the last meeting we're serving over 74 active locations and the opt out is 2 percent so we've opposing to stay there on november one we began serving
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additional customers in districts 5 and 8 customer accounts shifted to cleanpowersf with the november meter reads so by the end of november we'll be able to report what our customer base we expect is that 3 thousand we are currently experiencing on opt out percentage of one .5 percent for the fall enrollment group we received i'm happy to report nine hundred and 27 up grades so we've reached the milestone supergreen is more than one thousand accounts thank you san franciscans customers sign up our the future
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exploratoriums we're the fact of the matter go 74 percent are supergreen so that enthusiasm looks like that will continue which is great on the rates - the california public utilities commission will be issuing a decision on pending pg&e rate requests and transition rates we know will change the enacts to the hetch hetchy customers will be small and the revenue will be neutral with respect to cleanpowersf we are expecting the cleanpowersf customers to experience a small bill increase relative to pg&e bundled service and newly until the next pg&e rate we expect to be an increase in the spring or summer so there
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will be a period of time where we expect our raised for cleanpowersf to be lower but the overall built enacts because of the tci a that pg&e charges our customers will be a small increase the proposed decision from the california public utilities commission is expected later this month on the issue we'll have an opportunity to comment on that and definitely take that the subject property and the puc will issue their decision rates will be on january one i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> on those topics. >> i have a question sorry. >> uh-huh. >> will the pc i a question be revisit for the rates or. >> the pcia is a piece of
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california public utilities commission december decision yes and we are on the cpuc front and on the sort of cost non-bypassable charges we're active in a working group that the california public utilities commission established on the formal the pcia calculation and together with the other community choice agree grandfathe grandfathers - the methodologies will which was and next for the legislation season collaborating on what sort of changes to look for legislatively to address various cac and investor utility issues including the sharing of investor utility costs with pcia
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customers so the plaintiff cia methodologies probably will not be finished or revised before the meeting on the rates; right? >> that's correct. >> yes. >> okay. >> i'm sorry one more question that 70 plus if so how does that complete with cac. >> that's one of the tops will be addressed if you indulge me the presentation we're switching into is really to see you know the effort is all about seeing how to accelerate the program enrollment throughout san francisco you know back in december of 2017 we presented you with a business plan that business plan had some projections and now looking at
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how to accelerate these revised you we'll come back in the spring with that plan commissioner vietor you asked more information during the development of the plan and not land the plan on you in the spring this workshop will be responsive to that request with that introduction i'm going to turn it over to responsibility over to mike our cleanpowersf director. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. >> good afternoon. >> i might not be wearing a chicago cubs tie (laughter) before i start, i felt like i'll be remiss not to congratulate
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you in the world series the giants fans acknowledge that but i was roll call our work basically a year ago and you announced at one point weigh launch the program and the cubs will win the world series they happened in the same year anyway congratulations offering great the presentation is focused on reviewing the work underway on the plan. >> i'm going to start with the implementation approach and a consultant of the plan and finally i'll share some of the
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research we've been doing with the cac programs some initial lessons learned and the next step in the process. >> so this should be a familiar slide from the business plan activities and updates over the course of the past year the goals the commission adopted for cleanpowersf and we endeavored to consensus with the balance to those goals for affordable and reliable services for the portfolio with the lower green house gas emissions and invest our revenues in renewable services and jobs, all while providing for long term rates and financial stability. >> and what have we done
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towards chief of police the goals first, the launch of the program with rates a quarter of a percentage after accounting for the fees that pg&e charges the customers second you adopted energy portfolio for the green product of 39 percent audible renewable with lower green house gas emissions overall and third you adapted a tariff an electrical vehicle rates and recently approved the steps for the cleanpowersf programs and we'll feet we are staff our staff works on the tariff to be made available next year. >> as you may know
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cleanpowersf launched in may 2016 it became the second enterprise program of a single or county and lancaster is the on that formed in southern california all other cacs are transbay joint powers authority and the startup for an $8 million loan for working capital and also 17 line of credit to secure the transactions and we established cleanpowersf as a financially straight exit to provide the transparent to limit the financial risk on the power and launched that has a 50 megawatt opt out raised we're projecting the program will be serving 50 megawatts within a year looking
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like we may go 20 percent. >> let's see - >> my colors get messed up but to help to guide staff in implementing cleanpowersf the commission adopted 5 best practices that cover the product content and the rate setting and phasing and the supply mettle and the reserve - all the policies are summarized but the narratives are included in the
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december 8, 2015 packet the rates have to compete or beat pg&e and established rates are sufficient to recover the program costs, power supply sources are sufficient for the demand that the program has sufficient financial resources to meet the financial obligations, and that the program has necessary staffing and support systems in place this is another slide we've cycled from previous presentations this is the note that cleanpowersf is the major initiative offering service citywide is an 8 fold increase putting it on power with the
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revenue perspective twice the size of water enterprise from a customer account perspective the statistics are in the bottom of the slide the account issue is a function of more multi family dwelling meters for electricity. >> the goal the growth plan is to accelerate the pace of growth in a financially responsible manner that is the goal that established ourselves this effort to do so the growth plan must answer fundamental questions resolve restrident their suhr the program has the in the financial resources to increase it's power purchasing
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activities and organization alley handing growth and the metabolics to know when to hit the gas in terms of growth and hit the breaks for example the rate issues we were talking about before. >> will have holistic recommends we'll present to you this is a road map for program growth that identifies the environmental and economic benefits of growth and the additional power supplies to meet the city's goals a proposed schedule and approach to financing the additional power supplies and establishing the enrollment plan. >> and these boxes identifying
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the components the the subject property area of the components we're working on. >> before you go on. >> yeah. >> i have a couple of questions about you going on one the 17 credit when does that get paid back. >> the letter of credit is sort of the backstop it is available - the way it was set up it will only be used in the case of a termination when a default the city and cleanpowersf is in default. >> we've not entered into a credit arrangement. >> the letter of credit is j.p. morgan that instrument is available to the supplier in that instance.
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>> we're not going there. >> not at that point. >> the other piece as part of growth plan i want to flag it it came up before the actual product and increasing the greenness of that product question about natural gas and projections as the market continues to shift in renewables are more available and cheaper what that transition might look like. >> your anticipating a few slides from the slides don't address our questions ethic to claesht but as any questions for accelerating the pace i want that to be a component to alert accelerate the pace of the product while maintaining the product liability as well. >> i think that once we go
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through the rest of the other programs weighing we'll see they're able to accelerate. >> oh, okay. >> at the did it for a cost or rational for a reason. >> yeah. this is paramount to the growth plan we identified the goal as established itself as a vehicle for chief financial officer an environmental goals among others and the city has articulated a goal to contribution the electrical supply to one hundred green house gas emissions by 2030 and cleanpowersf is the means by which the city can really take action on that goal. >> more drarlg so that's going to be central to the growth plan and the gather source plan we do
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this year and every year going forward as market conditions change and the demand changes as well. >> okay. great. >> okay. so the development experience of other cpa's a number of slides summarizing the information on other counties have approached this the rates for the default electricity and the content of the portfolios the build out and compliery building and the approach to securing the financial supplies first how have the operating cacs been to program growth is this bicycle chart i'll walk you through how to read this chart
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fairly data rich this bubble chart is the growth and relative in megawatts the cac program is identified on the list and the year on the y axis they represent a phase of the program with the first bubble with program launch and the last added full-scale the size of bubble is the size of the program in megawatts and if it is a solid line around the bubble the phase is completed and a doted line indicates the plan or provacative it is difficult to see the doted lines are difficult and the megawatt values are identified in each of bubble sanborn map is the first program identified on the chart it indicates that the program launched in 2016 and we will
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expect to serve 43 afternoon megawatts that calendar year the phase one will be complete by the end of 2016 that's why you see the size growing to 63 megawatts in 2017 that is the first full year of energy on the phase one the remaining 3 bubbles in the green cleanpowersf sector which are for 2019, 2020 and 2021 show the additional phases projected in the december 2015 business plan to get to the citywide serve and you'll see two, that they are projected to be 13 megawatts at that time moving to the axis to the right the relative size of the cac programs and the first one is the lancaster that reaches
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maturity already and soma and mcare in the process of addressing community with the next year. >> right in the middle of the project is clean energy that launched in october of this year and peninsula what you'll see peninsula is planning a rapid planning growth in the process of carrying the resources to meet the projected demand of the additional phases as of this date peninsula planning on offering services to all customers in the service areas in 2017. >> a few additional observations once the fall enforcement cleanpowersf will an as large as lancaster and on with soma around the same time in their project development it will be the largest cac given
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current conditions when full-scale and the chart also shows how fast the peninsula relatively to the cleanpowersf business schedule and accelerating that pays by 3 years i want to emphasize our growth plan work is examining how we can expedite future phases of enrollment so we can bring the benefits of clear energy to san franciscans a faster timeline and in a financially responsible manner. >> moving on to rates - actually any questions on the last slide no. >> i have one - at build out you're looking at a fair amount of energy being served by the
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cac program how does that relate to the size of pg&es service area. >> that won't effect pg&es service area the cac programs won't principally because that service area is defined from the vantage point - >> from an energy perspective pg&e has published the projections they see 40 percent of their generation supply service migrating i believe by 2025 a 40. >> 40. >> how does that play into the pca. >> an important part because
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the issue at hand is that pg&e has made commitments on behalf of all the customers in the concept behind it is that the remaining customers are indifferent to customers departing for another service so it is important that pg&e is making the projections they'll saying they should be pulling back from making for commitments especially long term commitments to serve the customers that factors into the longevity of the cac over time to give cleanpowersf for example, we had customers depart pg&e shouldn't be ready to serve those customers and assessing the values take a snapshot want commitments of low migration for the customers departure and if
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it defines the cost ongoing obligations so again, it is important and it didn't necessarily effect the amount of pcia the amount is relate to the cost of resources that are in pg&e portfolio against the estimated value so what pg&e can get from the market in it sells those resources. >> are some of the resources available to us to acquire from pg&e or to obtain energy from them. >> pg&e has made the resources available for sale and issue offers and request bids pacific
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heights i periodically - up for discussion when it comes to how to manage the what we call the remaining customers indifference and fairness to cac customers and make sense for cpa's to buy the resources from pg&e. >> if they fit with our profile for energy we want in terms of the you know it is green house gas it seems to be a way of reducing their argument we can unburdensome of these. >> sure a strong argument for cac taking the contract costs there should be no cac costs.
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>> we'll urban design greener so some of those probably won't - >> yes. that's true the type of resources can be at issue. >> didn't you say the pcia wouldn't be affected and still be the same amount even if the customers migrated. >> the migration of customers didn't effect the sail of the pcia that's true i was trying to say if p cia started buying from pg&e their portion of the contracts that pg&e has secured on behalf of the cac customers and they were paying the contract price that pg&e is responsible for there would be no need for pcia. >> right. >> now the reason the pcia
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exists pg&e prices are expensive that brings the plaintiff cias prices up closure to where pg&e is. >> if they're losing 40 percent of their customers they should be pretty much less so the by cia should be going on dune over time what is included are long term contracts and much of that is renewable energy. >> they're still entering into but entering at a reduced rate right now because of the migration. >> that's right. >> well, because of market one clarification there the market for renewables has improved draeveng since pg&e has procured under the portfolios contract. >> but if pg&e didn't have
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demand bus customers are switching to cac they're not actually in the market at these prices. >> my first reaction when i saw the chart there was a lot of cacs radio auto out you expect there be be a congestion in the market that prices may go up bus of not only our prices but others. >> we're aware of and considering and alcohol monitor it is hard to anticipate now without having done solicitation refresher not seen the trend part of it, it is the state and the cacs are trying to build in any capacity on the margin our new projects and new projects are competing against one another to get those but there
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could be a pace issue where cac has won a certain amount of the renewable energy if their portfolios and others can't keep up that's one possibility and no anecdotal or no evidence at this time this is happening now. >> if i recall some discussion about trying to have the various cacs coordinate if purchasing the electives. >> so we'll have informal conversation how to coordinate and pool our buying power 80 together i think you're aware the cac has formed an association recently
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cal cac those radio did types of topics that come up with discussing the policy and regulatory policies that cac is assessing and coordinating i think there is a a real opportunity for cacs to look at how they might collaborative through the establishment of the sort of service oriented gp n to have greater quantities to drive down prices and offer certain services potentially call service services for example. >> thank you any other questions on this slide. >> okay. thank you. >> precede. >> thanks. >> monkey off my back to rates so the affordability has on a
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hallmark of each cacs product at the time of launch each cac has offered lower rates at the time of launch, however, most cacs recognition they're not in control of the rates making the representation they'll meet pg&e for example, times running the rates i should be clear that the cost to mccustomers have exceeded pg&e when finding for the pg a not - operating cacs tend to have competitiveness rather than beating pg&e with they're marketing materials. >> this slide compares the operating cac default with the
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snapshot of the rate difference for the e-1 the standard residential rate schedule for the investor and utilities for the default products that is cleanpowersf screen products the out liar is lancaster as i want to point out this lancaster is in pg&e territory they compete with a different illustrate and a lower generation rate and as a result their pcia rate is lower that explains the big difference in relative costs the chart indicates that while s c e is 5 percent of their total generation rate pg&e pcia is 25 percent of the generation rate
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pursue the operating p - cac are offering rates that are all about 5 percent of one another one 5 percent of one another i want to point out that part of what we're doing with the platoon a studying the costs of our fellow xeefrts and to better understand the expansions to help to spread the costs that is something we'll do with the performa analysis and i will point out that our initial finds with that scaling helps significantly in recovering the costs. >> okay. so this shied is not showing up well, i apologize for that
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but this is a slide that compares operating cacs electricity portfolio with pg&e's and starting from the left hand it shows pg&e's renewable content with a y to 100 percent and pg&e's is thirty percent renewable and 59 green house gas emissions free with 23 percent of that source from uniqueer and hydro if you move right to the right of chart you'll see the operating cost the first one is cleanpowersf and those figures represent the best current estimate given the supply and demand to state of what our content for the green default product will look like and you'll see we're currently project by project our products
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to include 40 percent bundled bucket one renewable energy generated from california 36 percent green house hydro electrical sources that includes 15 percent aroused from hetch hetchy this year. >> and then 21 percent from other hydro traffic light supplies provided by the suppliers for for a total of 76 percent g h a content that 17 percent red there between and the other 24 percent if cal pine generating united this supply actually provides green house gas emissions savings when compared to purchases from california i s
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l and that is 10 percent savings. >> how long is that california contract for . >> 3 years. >> so the take-home message is that cleanpowersf is performing well as far when meeting the goals to delivering more clean energy to our customers. >> again apologizes for the light coloring but this is a forward-looking slide and i mentioned before the major part of growth plan will be identifying the rate and quantity in which we need to increase our content that goal one goal to chief a g h g free
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this is the pg&e projection of the green house within now and 2030 difficult on the overhead i apologize the y is the portfolio coming from different energy types of and pg&e is project by project that will increase from thirty percent today to 53 percent in 2030. >> and it's g h g 50 to 73 in 2030. >> in contrast the doted line shows cleanpowersf renewable default product if it were to maintain the 10 percent margin over pg&e that's essentially where we are we projected out to show where we are at which is 63
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percent renewable and then the top line the green house commended it shows the green house gas emissions squeezed out the cleanpowersf portfolio over that timeframe. >> the growth plan is going to start to lay out the options for meeting this demand but i want to point out we're conduct a plan that provides for specifics to look at the optimal mix of the resources is and that's will be over a long term a 20-year and we'll be updating that plan on an annual basis. >> can i - before we leave i'll be interested i mean, i said subtly in understanding maintaining affordable how
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quickly we can move forward and meet that 2030 goal going g h g free and moving go forward with renewable especially with the success of the program that that looks like because the climate is changing fast and it is incumbent to make sure we get to the other side of the bridge maybe go back and put that in that would be great. >> okay. >> just a few more slides that is the comparison the build out and the complimentary programs that are offered or - to be
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clear this slide shows the gaps we are telegraph hill trying to fill the cac is not telegraph hill developing a program to the best of our knowledge and that cleanpowersf doesn't intend to offer the program i want to point out about energy efficiency the customers have access to city administrative code and program for the programs and we're planning to make sure that the customers are aware the programs to assess being a cleanpowersf customer didn't effect their goiblthd we contribute to the funds of the programs improving offerings to specific to customer needs is a part of cleanpowersf programs future
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and again what this shows is areas we're telegraph hill staffing today the takeaway the largest cac program is the locate offerings here and cleanpowersf is implemented two, that meter energy and metering we're in the process of developing one the terrace a balanced payment plan and ongoing payment the staff is telegraph hill working on those today and we have to make the programs available next year. >> can i ask a question about the electrical vehicle rate how do you see that structured is it too early. >> what we've done as far the electrical vehicle market is a
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developing market what we've done is adopted the rates that pg&e is offering we have a complimentary vehicle rate that pg&e is doing and they're two options and those options are intended to support different aspects of the market both - but with the goal of charging at appropriate times we have you 36 tend to have a different profile they discourage on usage an area that will be cleanpowersf will be good grounds for policy making in the sensed as we better understand the electrical vehicle market and the customers needs cleanpowersf is tailor their rates for the time of use they con assume electrical
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vehicles are a sector of the market for demand response and it is something we can fill the box on the electrical vehicle side. >> so pg&e lowers your rates if you charge between 11:00 p.m. i think 5:00 a.m. but your rate overall is - we have electrical - electricity lower in that sense so i'm curious to see what that looks like down the line and car sharing hoping that electrical cars will be shared this is the best city in the world to have electrical cars and a later discussion other plans for charging for people this is the structure and demands but love to see that someday if so it practical. >> an area we're in active
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discussions not only for cleanpowersf but for hvlt public utility services we have electrical charging stations and are working across the city to look at the best practices for extending the infrastructure and bringing our green house hetch hetchy power supply to that market so i think definitely intend to be more information on that. >> thank you. >> i was surprised out how the electrical vehicle rate if you get the preferable rate mooifrns are required we're at home during the day and actually cheaper to keep it under the old plan i charge my car at night so for anyone that is similarly situations as us to the early
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morning hours and not compare during the peak it takes a different kind of structure. >> yeah. i think that you know it does speak to the evolving market a lot of research how customers use the electrical vehicles when they charge what they're driving patterns are, and you know, i think this is an exciting area for us for cleanpowersf to really actually move the green house needle further by not just addressing the electrical supply but also to address the transportation sector but i think another layer there will be looking at the cleanpowersf demand characteristics and aggregate and trying to direct consumers to the times that benefit cleanpowersf overal program from a financial perspective.
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>> okay last but not least we are looking closely at the credit requirements be associated with the growth all cacs have some form of financial support from the local city and county member agencies with the transportation authority or private lender had distinguishes out the usage of a lockbox of escrow account every other cac launched to date has utilized the lockbox to have the startup supplies cleanpowersf uses the letter of credit we discussed before and twerpt launching the cleanpowersf a year ago only a couple of suppliers with the box and the city of lancaster
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established the first multi party lockbox at the valet the peninsula adopted the multi party lockbox for example, and cleanpowersf opted out to use a line of credit to launch the program quickly and to be the best competitive we only have a couple of supplies and wanted to reach as many supervisors to get a competitive offer for the supply costs the lockbox has been critical to help to chief and plan by paid programs as a result the evaluation of the lockbox option will be a key program to our work going forward hello.
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>> okay. >> so what are how findings and next steps we're very much in the startup mode we can claim that the program has been a success thus far we've launched the competitive rates and fewer green house gas, however, we'll be bringing more information on the performance of the program over several months as the year concluded and other cpa's use lockboxes to secure payment to suppliers without injuring the cost to the supplies that is representative in the comparative chart with the extensively priced lockbox are a
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key ingredient for more radical scaling than cleanpowersf projected in the business plan which was really an organic growth using the program revenues and additional collateral through a letter of credit in addition to your consideration of lockbox arrangement re developed the recommendations and conduct further analysis to understand what the program financial reserve should be and adjust the program and reserve policies to get - give the program more time to meet them for example, and other renewable energy like category 2 renewables how much do we expect those to meet the growth rate a communication outreach perspective and power
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purposing and financial purchasing perspective and critically what is the staffing report to insure that we make no compromises in customer services and capability as we expand and with that, don't forget to join cleanpowersf. >> thank you. i noticed one of the bus stops in any neighborhood has a very nice large poster that advertises definitely it is very good. >> we initiated an campaign that includes the posters they're very nice. >> thank you, commissioner any questions. >> i have one comment. >> first of all, thank you so much for your hard work i know
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that commissioner vietor was a strong advocate and but you guys played pokeer and had to show your hand against an occupant that didn't have to this is very, very masterful i think that i wish chicago could have something like that this program the way you guys were aggressor aggressive and thank you for the advocates this is a great year thank you very much for your work. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> public comment. mr. brooks. >> good afternoon, commissioners eric brooks sf green party/our city/sf clean energy advocates. and grassroots organization of our city a lot of hats
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as commissioner knows i did a deeper dive into the baseball met for i spent a lot of time growing in chicago i am from california i used to be skeptical i believe in incarceration i've been waiting one and 8 years not only in my lifetime for the cubs to win the world series the met for is great what we've achieved with cleanpowersf and the cubs winning the world series that is fortuitous but the world series is taking building renewable
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efficiency and the focus it program needs to have going from this point forward we need to win our up and down the is not pg&e but the climatic change that will destroy that pg&e is a good picture for the bad guys but the bad guy is the climatic change like the baseball team to win the world series against the climatic crisis cleveland is apologizes to cleveland you have to have an entire team of 9 positions to win the game you can't just say all right i'll try putting out a pinch and try a shortstop and make them a catcher and maybe we'll add some outside fielders and base men later in the game if you do that
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you'll lose the game and again, the game is building renewables not just - we need to build local and other renewables so standards touch on the edges we really need to do focusing on getting all the players gathered and working together we have efficiency renewable and solar and wind and regional wind and demand response all those things being planned as a team effort in a network of resources all put together that all go out as a planned thing where a coach plans a game so we're getting the best economies and the berries integrations of the resources together and putting the whole team on the field is our fight again, the
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climatic change and beat the other team that's it cubs win. >> thank you mr. brooks. >> see i've always known he's a great guy. >> jason fried, executive officer. a whole heck of a lot it cover in 3 minutes i'll do my best first of all, some of the things commissioner vietor i agree we need to go as green as possible one our program has a restriction how we get our electricity are all the restrictions needed they're keeping us in the way of having a more money important build out and more money for efficiency and as well as more money to go out address find on the resources of renewable energy that work perfectly fine
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climatic change is an international thing didn't matters where the green house gas - we need to have a contribution into our grid but taking a serious look are we regulating too much where the electricity comes from that hampers our ability to get more electricity within the last week i got an e-mail about a program they're getting rebates for people and helping to pay for the installation of charging station within our property we should be looking at ways to do that not only are we encouraging people to use greener trouble to our ability to get people to electrical
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vehicles helps to grow our energy needs but cleaner electricity and getting them off of dirty fossil fuel i'll encourage us to look at there's a pilot program but want to take into account that as well getting into some of the discussions we are going on around the long term contracts from the p cia i know your monitoring that one thing the deblow plant closure that can be impacted and one thing to keep in mind you don't need to go out and get contracts but the old contracts that i'll defend pg&e for a quick second it is rare they were great and needed at the time but they're much more expensive and figure out how we balance that load for them without having them increase and keep the costs fair to the cac customers at the same time
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then the final one thank you to the staff their trier of fact to work hard but need to look at how we're getting money from the charge i can guarantee you the department can do programs better but right now pg&e gets to take the credit for the department of the environment but great if we got did money instead - so i encourage to look at that if we can get that money and not through pg&e continuation a better marketing program for us. >> i see some needing heads we'll be taking comments for next year for the world series and the of digesters completed. >> can i make a comment.
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>> so i appreciated the public comments and just wanted to first emphasis in the grow plan a couple of pieces will be great to include we want to keep an eye on the local build question having when some flight assessments might happen that's in the mix angles ago to talk about what might be the low hanging fruit with the local build out and to build resiliency we have a power generation and from a job perspective there is a lot of opportunity i'll thinking in the grow plan that would be great i'm hoping when we talk about accelerating the market mix as soon as possible for 100 percent renewable g h g freeze the question of restrictions i'll
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imagine will be addressed as part of that because they were reasons to put the restrictions on and some might be valid but when we talk about acceleration whether that is regulatory or otherwise to leave it - >> i want to point out we talk about affordability with pcia and other pcias are doing rec they have rates that are cheaper and at the same time, we wanted to do local build that are more expensive so we're still with that you know juggling act we're trying to do it responsibly and we look at the lockbox we can move towards but i think we
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agree that maybe very should look at some of the restrictions we have and the other thing you you know it maybe challenging to put the current contract and decrease the costs we may not be - below pg&e. >> right. >> so, i mean we have to revisit all of this i'm saying we're cautiously moving forward that's why i don't want to start building stuff and be more expensive than pg&e. >> yeah. >> that's why i'm saying you know we look at everything. >> i think this is some a shifting collapse the i can't do what we purpose pg&e assets as we grow our program it is interesting piece of mix and just in the growth or business plan understanding it can change to factor all the things it i
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dynamic. >> any other questions from the commissioners general public comment thank you all no action required on that item staff will be back early next year for follow-up. >> hi emilio nice shirt (laughter) okay. >> we're about to go into closed session. >> madam secretary call the items for closed session. >> item 14 unmitigated claim jason and selena and item 15 the existing claims along the martel and pro 21 will not be heard today.
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>> thank you any public comment on items to be heard in closed session? >> seeing none, can i have a motion? >> to assert the attorney/client privilege. >> to assert. >> move to >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? and that motion carries and we'll now go into closed session. >> mr. president, a quick moment for the crews to come join harlan and i thank you for honoring the world series champions they have - invite commissioner caen. >> can i vote. >> yes. please. (laughter). >> did you emilio? >> since you don't have a hat
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>> (laughter). with my we're back in open session. during closed session approved settlement on items 14 and 15 can i have a motion? >> whether to disclose during closed session. >> move not to disclose second and. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? that that motion carries and is there any other new business? okay i should annoyance that the next meeting on november 22nd is
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>> please take roll call >> brinkman and, present. borden will be with us shortly as well director heinicke nolan, present. ramos, present. please be advised roger rubke will be absent from today's meeting but you do have a quorum to proceed with business at hand. item 3 announcement of probation sound producing devices during the meeting. item 4, approval of the minutes of the october 18 regular meeting >> any public comment boomer? >> know mister chairman >> moved and seconded. all
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those in favor say, aye so ordered. >> item 5 communications. german nolan directors none. item 6 introduction of new or unfinished business by board members >> 52 things to bring up with from the headlines. the first is if we could perhaps get clarification or update on the service animal policy. i know that was a new story that was kind of waiting around and i think that it's one of those things there's a lot of misinformation out there. you hear a lot of things dogs are okay if they paid up there. service animals always okay maybe we could clarify that not just for our benefit for the public's benefit. also for the police will actually have to enforce it if it's ever enforce. then the second one is this is something that we been hearing a lot of correspondence on. the
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diy street changes being done by an organization in san francisco and i know there is such a public appetite for street safety and while we are diligently working through all of these things i think that the d i y st. changes are removed from sf mta gets a bit confusing for people so maybe we could get a memo on that and answer specifically some of the e-mail questions that come to us. i just feel that we sort of open to the public to explain how street changes go through and why we would like to see them go faster, what is our policy in terms of the need to go through the process in order to make sure were not only kidding everybody safe with our not leaving ourselves exposed to lawsuits and making the right changes in the right place on our schedule. >> members consent will ask director reiskin to come back and report on those items. ms. boomer >> item 7 directors report. >> good afternoon members of
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the chair and numbers of the board members of the staff here at.. i want to give you a vision zero update. largely this month focusing on bike lanes. some good news to report on a number of fronts. first, 4 valencia st. and this is a relatively small section down south of cesar chavez between duncan and save up cesar chavez we will soon be installing the second raised bicycle lane good we have one as you know, a short talk on market street between 12 and golf that we did as a pilot with a different geometries. we will be installing our second one down on valencia south of chavez as part of a larger project. i think we may have presented to you at some point that mission valencia green project which is led by the puc was doing some
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storm water treatments as well as a new plaza. some greenery and other things and this is on the stretch of lancia largely from shop is down to mission. but this second bike lane relatively new here get used in other parts of the world so everyone knows it raises the bike a couple of inches above the pavement so it's kind of a partly step between the pavement and the curb to provide more spatial protection and more visible protection for cyclists. really, for everybody it's much easier to see if you're driving or walking as well. so we should have this project done later this month. until then the bike lane is available for folks to read but the design will change once the construction is done. we do want folks to use extra care during construction but exciting to see this going in as part of this larger project which will make that area a lot nicer and be a whole lot
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safer which is great. next on turk street in the tenderloin this is going from mason to poke we will soon be putting in a parking separated bike lanes could this is just months after the first bike lane in the tenderloin when in numbers on golden gate. this project went through a public hearing last month largely with favorable comments and this will essentially be bike lane that is along the curb. we painted it green should you be separated from the moving traffic by a parking lane. though very much protective biplane and the work will start this winter. we are considering this to be near terminal implements because there's a longer term turk street safety project we will continue to work with the community to fully design and finalize and bring a recommendation to you but this interim step will be important easy win for us to
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make cycling in the structure of the tenderloin much safer in golden gate is one way east. this is one white waistcoat so complete a couplet as well. just for reference, we do have a few parking protected bike lanes in the city though not that many get we are obviously the one folks know about in golden gate park on jfk drive as well section the 13th and 13th st. and not too far from here. pastry in the marina and this last block of cold streak at this one on turk will add to the repertoire. overall, 27 miles of protective buffer bike lanes have been built in the city over the past six years. this one will add to that. just a little bit south of there, this isn't right per se but it helps for the bicycles and everyone on the street. our signal shop did great work on seventh and eighth streets to put a larger signal heads in at
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12 locations along seventh and eight in the last three months and this was in part to follow the mayor's more recent executive directive on bike and pedestrian safety which directed us to get near-term improvements in the ground on seventh and eighth get larger signal heads make it less likely people will run red lights. obviously red light running is one of the leading causes of serious and fatal collisions in the city so anything we can do to make that less likely to happen is important. this again is just kind of a step forward on larger work that were planning for seventh and eighth streets and this is pretty much the lights for seventh and eighth and so the market will be bringing larger proposals later this year early next year for seventh and eighth street. the great work on our shops to get all of those signal heads i enlarge. the last vision zero item back to golden gate park,
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the executive directive that i referenced earlier, also, specifically called out golden gate park and jfk drive in particular.. as you know we do of the parking protected bike lane on the eastern part of jfk but on the western part we do have folks that are driving quite a bit above the speed limit. our safety get it shows 7-9 mi./h above the 25 mile feet limit during the day and even faster during the 19 people are using our part as a thruway and high-speed one at that. despite last week's rough weather, our staff and public works crews start to lay asphalt for nine new forums and one raised crosswalk on jfk. so this is all in the western half. he look like the weather is clearing so we should be able to continue working this week. as with the other two,
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this is an interim step so this is relatively modest number of speed humps to calm traffic on that stretch of jfk while we work with park and rec and all the stake holders of golden gate park on a much broader look at the park and how to make it safer for all four parkgoers, for anyone who is driving, biking and walking their. as you know there are roads in jfk that are very much used as thruway's commute routes which is not of course with the park was built to do. so anyone who is interested in participating in the conversation, we do have a community open house coming on saturday, december 3 at the county fair building from 10-noon. we encourage folks to come and participate and help us work with park and rec to make the park safer. last thing i want to mention good news on the transit side. the reports
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that we've got on the cold valley shuttle from the known is that the way shuttle, until we realize nobody knows where the way is come up purported and very very positive and i think i mentioned this at the last board meeting we reduce assets for overcrowded trains by around 60%. really a very market difference from the folks in coal valley and the divorce triangle the lower haight try to make their way in the mornings. so based on that success we will be be introducing another shuttle service and this will serve the main line of the subway. so folks particularly at west portal forest hill and castro and turk that often get past up in the morning have relief coming starting next week. the relaunch of the shuttle will be running both in the morning commute hours and in the afternoon hours and we are able to do this because we have been
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increasing our focus on maintenance of the vehicles for long time we although we had the demand for the service we have not had the vehicle availability or the operator availability to be able to do this. because we have been focusing on increasing the reliability of vehicles so we have more of them in service on any given day, and because we continue to work on training new operators as rail operators, we are now able to have this new service on the rush hours. we have not really run this kind of shuttle service in a couple of years except for special events. but anyone who passes through that area in the morning and i'm often one of those folks, often can't get on the train were seized j castro and church get on the train. it's great news that this will be ramping up just as we are getting ready to see our first new light rail vehicle come into the city
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could hopefully at the end of this year and this work just really complements all the things that we are trying to do given the constraints we have two approve improve the service for the hundred thousand people were more work are riding on the rail system each day. so that's what i have. happy to take any questions be was thinking. questions, comments? anybody else speak with members of the public width i haven't received a speaker card and i see no one headed this way or looking interested in addressing it >> i'm sorry. director tried heinicke has something >> follow up on a question. just a follow-up on an issue we talked about would increase service and the shuttle service which i know you been announced both the doorway with a cold but also there's been some
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discussion that the castro shuttle and a senior morris west portal shuttle. could i just get some clarification on what the new shuttle service to the twin peaks tunnel approaching the twin peaks tunnel is? the second question i have is whichever it is, where at the car is a car turning? >> yes. we were initially looking at a castro shuttle but looking at the ridership were some of the past ups are, the shuttle is going to go out the aligned to tara about and the second is where it's going to turn around. i'm not sure what we are going to call it yet but oh pickup not just west portal forest hill but it'll pick up the inner part of the l line from 22nd st. 22nd ave. in >> that will be a two-car shuttle isom? >> it will have 21 car shuttles >> okay but not regard to one car shuttle in there's a switch back at 22nd. it across 19th switch and in return bequest >> correct >> very good. >> item 8 citizen advisory
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commits oh report the chairman is not here today so there's no reported item 9 public comment. opportunity for the members to address the board. >>[calling public comment cards] >> good afternoon. thank you very much for the opportunity speak here today and i want to share some of my thoughts about naming the new chinatown subway station. my name is chris-i live in tiburon. ivanoff is up at for several years in chinatown at the corner of pine and grant streets. i consider chinatown to be one of the real gems of san francisco. the reason i feel that way is because the culture, the people,. everyone was there it's a real community. i treasure it. i am also a following gong practitioner, doing the meditation for nine years. because of this practice i personally got to know fall
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people were persecuted in china or family members who are persecuted in china including people's family members were killed in china as a result of the illegal persecution in china. many residents in addition to that, many residents of chinatown who are not following gong petitioners have also fled communism and what's going on in china. there's a lot of people in chinatown who even if they're not following gone practitioners are very thankful to be safe in the united states. i will add this. the entire community of chinatown come up very excited about the new subway station. it's really exciting. but they're not excited when they hear about the potential for naming the subway station after rose pak. they consider her to be the equivalent of like the commonest party bully. if you
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do a google search for images online you will see pictures of her with a pack smoking a cigar like a gangster and many of these people in chinatown feel like this is the kind of person they left behind in china. so that's the same image that her wrists they come to san francisco they see someone saying that it is a who is this. they will go look up on google and that's what they are going to see. so for these reasons that's why i think we should name the subway station after chinatown not after any particular person. >> thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> >>[calling public comment cards] >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon supervised. my name is [inaudible] i'm here to talk about my own spirit is a practicing following gong in my opinion of naming the subway station after rose pak. all my family is practiced following gong and we were benefit greatly from it we become very healthy and positive. my husband has 2° and phd. he was
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it [inaudible] with lecture and university in china because he shares his own expense of practicing following gong to his students he was forced to abandon his belief of following gong. he did not give up but he [ina felt a lot of pressure a harassment. he had to resign his job and look abroad we start his life. my mother-in-law also practice common ground and was also locked up due to her beliefs. for three times. she was brutally treated and spiritually tortured even though she still [inaudible] so the persecution of following gong practitioners called cause use disaster and hurt from chinese and my family experience is only one. one example among the millions of practitioners
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in china. this persecution has already excited a boycott. however, those that supported the brutal and antihuman persecution in china and the try to explore this prosecution to the us. so here in san francisco name of station after rows back i do not think that will be an honor in will be a shame. it will start a very bad example for the public. so please do not name the station after rose pat. thank you >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> r >>[calling public comment cards] >> good afternoon baking for this opportunity to speak minus michael mccarthy about event resident and history teacher at local state academy of the arts. i'm also up on gong practitioner for eight years.
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i'm here to speak with you in regards the naming of the central station in chinatown from sun. weight chinatown station to send. white rose pak station as you may know the persecution of following gong a peaceful meditation practice based on the principles of truth on this compassion and forbearance is going on in china for 17 years. however the persecution has not been limited to china alone in his seas seeped into american society along. rose that was involved in facilitating this persecution and talk to the quest of the chinese consulate. the community of american citizens and following gong practitioners and seriously hurt and betrayed on her is was okay furthermore most actively well but the atrocities that were taking place in china where people have been killed for their organs and sold on the black market. knowing this, she traveled to china for extended medical state where she received a kidney transplant .. she came back claiming that she fully recovered and one wonders why she chose to leave the bay area which has the
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finest medical technology in the world to china for such an organ transplant. could you got me working from some other was killed for? i believe it's there for people to ask such a question. i sincerely urge you be please do not name the subway station after rose pak. there so many great people that could represent our city in this country. the fed has been a beacon of tolerance and equally. the essays is been a place of refuge for those who been persecuted for their beliefs and believe in, on protecting such rights as freedom of speech rights and husband by naming the subway station after you be bringing a black mark to the city that would cause such great shame and not looked upon favorably by history or the people of the future. thank you. >> thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> >>[calling public comment cards] >>[inaudible] operate at church
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and market. additional violations include operations on church street a residential street, double parking adjacent to a discontinued white zone and impeding muni and traffic. genentech and sfo airport dilated a plaque agreement. sfo airport violation history includes obtaining factors 06-002 for display on a vehicle displaying texas license plate k05-4303. it operated in muni bus owns it on 3 ton restricted neighborhood streets. sfo airport are operated for your registered vehicles for 77 and 479 during december 2015 without california license plates or a muni packard and operated in muni bus zones. the integrity of the corporate community bus program is question. the deal at church
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and market has been going on but i first noticed on october 12 continue to guide reported it and it continues to this day. i observed it yesterday. still in violation. i just came from the library reporting it. so evidently, i'm getting everybody's getting blown off. there's no integrity in the program. this no discipline in the program. in i suspect that since they were there at a discontinued stop that's been going on since april when you went to the major minor arterial routing. so as a consequence, how come i find all these things in one half square mile. what's going on in the rest of the city? as far as violations with these vehicles? thank you and i submit my comments >> thank you, sir. next speaker, please.
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>> >>[calling public comment cards] >> good afternoon, sir >> good afternoon could board members. my name is general, business owner. i would also like to address the issue of naming the central subway station after rose pak and express my strong opposition for this proposal. in 2001 i was involved in proposing the city and county resolution to condemn the persecution of following gong in china. there's a resolution riley came to a vote at the board of supervisors meeting and several of us were there. this is the first time i came across rose pak. during the deliberations before and actually during the voting, she directly lobbied the supervisors are very aggressive and overt manner. something that was quite surprising to me. she would stand up and walk over to the supervisors during the meeting
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as if someone just would walk over right now and start talking to you. she would stand up and talk to them for extensive periods of time. directing them to just here waiting towards others and seemingly angry and syria. sadly, the majority of the supervisors succumbed to her demands and resolution failed at the time. we had a resolution that passed in 2006 but this is the first time it failed. that was a sad day for many of us. mainly because i knew the result does not reflect san francisco or even the board of supervisors. but the pressure and influence of a foreign lobbyist basically a proxy of the chinese communist party. the language and methods she used against following gong were exactly the same used by the chinese regime at the time. i know myself and many other i know would be greatly
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offended and enraged at the same time if we were to walk by the central subway station were it to be named after rose pak. i urge you not to call the station after such an individual. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >>[calling public comment cards] >> her but wonder. what is the difference between sharks and mta? sharks go after human beings and mc goes after parking stops and bus stops. now, i'm really disturbed about the viral termination of bus stops all over the city. the latest victim is good the rt on kerry street. where individuals if i pointed out before are going to have a physical hardship walking that quarter of a mile. and believe me, paratransit is not being the has been it simply an argument of the board to blowup the
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concern. there's been no medical findings. on the hardship the seniors and the disabled and it's going to create misery. now maybe the solution is about the bus is going faster is simply to more buses. also to address the internal operations of mta. which is the focus on late buses, missing buses, and those are the things that are i think really important. so in my opinion, it's better to fight on my pb up then be under the wheels of mta. certainly, i will vote no on j and k and yes on scuttle because this board is clearly out of control and has to be brought to heel. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >>[calling public comment cards] >> good afternoon,
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commissioners or directors. i'm just going to be brief here. i reviewed the march third 2016 minutes from the ct dc california traffic control devices committee meeting and the minutes from september 1 and a couple of questions for you. when share greenwood required as to whether the installation of the red guillen has expanded beyond an area approved by the committee mister white representing this body, we plied the installation had been specifically in the 24-7 lines rather than part-time lanes. i'm not quite to what that means. perhaps you can enlighten us. he went on to say >> sorry this is for item within the jurisdiction of the sfmta could >> this is the part of the situation is about the red lanes and how they're representing this situation. he
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went on to say they only place where the lanes have been expanded beyond us those shown on the map with market street from fifth to third for consistency. why did he fail to mention the red transit only lanes on mission street south of 16th st.? according to the map and balboa street i've seen this portion of mission street is not included in the experiment so areas. perhaps there's another map that i am missing? i also read in the minutes of for the last meeting held on september 1 that the members of the committee have received letters from the public regarding red lane experiments and the committee is requesting that the sf mta work with the public to address these concerns. as you know the mission street red lanes have been problematic for some time and we are wondering when the sf mta intends to start working with the public to solve the problems into of less than a month to prepare for that december 6 meeting. i will submit this but [inaudible]
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>> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >>[calling public comment cards] those of the last two people turning in speaker cards >> good afternoon. thank you commissioners. directors. mark gruber speaking for myself. there is a proposal about the sale of taxi medallions that a belief is supposed to come to this board at your next meeting on november 15. basically what it would do is open up medallions sales to any and everybody who might want to purchase one and i just want to do a little reality check on this. because the fixed price of $250,000 is a price i don't think anybody in their right mind is going to want to pay.
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by way of comparison, in chicago where a few years ago medallions were going for upwards of $350,000 the latest sales have been for around 60,000. in boston, where the value was over 600,000 not long ago, they're going for about 70,000 and in new york city where the value of medallions was over $1 million the most recent attempt at a sale i saw was an offer for 400 thousand dollars that was turned down by the seller as to little but to put that in context, new york city regulates the dnc's in the same manner that they regulates all other ground transportation. in other words, these vehicles up to meet the same standards as other ground transportation vehicles. as a
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result of which trips were taxi trips in newark are only down 9% last year. we have seen i don't even know what the fall off here. i know drivers say they lost half their income in san francisco. so i'll have more to say about this at your next meeting but think about it >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >>[calling public comment cards] last person to turn in a speaker card mister chairman >> tom-merry christmas good luck on all your long wage total plans. good luck finishing transbay center and the hookups. good luck with the high-speed rail. the closer to reality. taxidrivers need some restitution. let's be fair about this. this was a disaster debris saw it coming nobody saw it happening. they need restitution. let's be fair let's be helpful. 27 years ago
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there were no wheelchair ramp taxes. we got 70, i believe up to 69 uber and left, none, zero, zilch. rushed to save 2-34 min. on our buses. by changing stops and whatnot. without a real wheelchair lock up the driver sends 2-3 min. locking me up and unlocking me up. let's get somebody locks on all these transit. some people don't have to use them. some people its much better to have them. the tariff bill line changes. why not go with an alternative bus line. a a and b to each one stops at half the stops. together they stop at all the stops. we save time. elder people can get there stop. they can wait. for a price that's closer to home for them. cal osha on the noise. i
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keep remind myself to call cal osha and say there's noise on the 65, 67, 72 bus lines is ridiculous that i keep forgetting. but someday i will. i'm in town, for most of san francisco's begins chinatown is running why don't we name it chinatown? that's what most of the visitors know it as. the google buses come i would still like to see them everybody boarding on a muni bus stop. they should've a monthly pass. traffic lights, dedicated arrow turns. you guys should be working on that immensely get there are stops that take 10 min., fifth and harrison i believe it is to get through. steam clean r-l later lose. >> thank you, sir. >> mister jim and i was the last one to turn in a speaker card he was there's a gentleman approaching- >> i'm not prepared or just
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corrected afternoon my name is double and i have over the past year experienced a troubling occurrence that happens over and over and over again with thyself and muni operators not allow me to board with my people whose a service animal. she is registered. she is legal. i've had her come i have all the papers. i have the proof. she is as you can see a very sweet dog. i keep on unwittingly on saturday there's a video taken by a passerby total stranger regarding this incident of muni operators kicking me off
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trains, buses, just because of my service animal. they say she is not muzzled. this is gone over like i said over a year of complaints numerous times but it's been about 20 times officially. some of the really egregious times that this is happened i filed complaints with the mayor's office on disability. starting back in 2015 on 28 december 2015, this -the operator would not let me on even after i showed him the, her paperwork. after i treated with him the cop shows up. he also sides with him. that in that instance actually muni supervisor came supervisor fisher and said they were wrong and i was correct. to go really fast forward the reason i am here is i saw the piece that paul the muni spokesman said
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about my situation and he said i'm not disabled. i-m. width thank you, stupid actually this issue was raised by vice chair brinkman. your time is up for speaking but >> yes, thank you for coming down and talking to us. i did ask asked to give a clarification on the policy but i know important being able to take your service animal on nami is and i think this as i'm sure director reiskin will ask that to direct this overly of a question of clearing up the policy that already exist. so we will look forward to that again i thank you for coming down and i'm sorry that you are >>[inaudible] [off mic] your 2 min. is up again he have to be fair to everyone. thank you much >> service animals generally we've not just dogs but other service animals we can let them
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know what the broader policy is. he was i think that was the question anyone else here for the public seeing none, >> moving on to the consent calendar. all items are considered routine could mister chairman not received a request for members of the public eye that any item be severed >> emotion? >> motion to approve >> all those in favor say, aye >>[chorus of ayes] ms. boomer >> moving on to item 11 under rail counter presentation discussion regarding harvest of the muni service equity strategy. >> good afternoon. i apologize
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we don't have a powerpoint presentation and julie kirschbaum deputy director of operations support. i'm here today to talk about the muni service equity strategy. we reached a major milestone, six months ago, when you adopted our first two-year equity strategy good i am here today to give you an update on progress that we've made over the last six months and implementing that important work. as you may recall, the
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ajmer called the equity strategy built on but doesn't replace our title vi program which will be receiving a presentation on later today. this is a more local deep dive into the routes that go through some of our poorest neighbors as well as routes heavily used by seniors and people with disabilities give it is a shared adventure that we are on. were getting a lot of support from our working group of transit equity and affordable housing advocates. they have been with us throughout the process and we are continuing to meet about quarterly at key milestones for this work. the equity strategy
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is one piece in a much larger agencywide commitment to making muni service affordable and accessible to all of our customers. as the title vi analysis confirmed, all san francisco residents are within a quarter-mile of transit service which is about a 5 min. walk. we are making systemwide improvements like the investments in our fleet better hope helping customers including low income customers across the city. we now have over 100,000 people on our free and discounted passes which is i think a tremendous milestone. so the muni equity strategy builds on this sort of strong agency commitment. the principles of this strategy are to create transparency, to really help people understand year-over-year, the services
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performing. in our focus neighborhoods. we will be bringing you the 2016 evaluation around the generate-february timeframe. so we saw a significant improvement between the school year 14 and 15 in hoping to continue that trend. but it's intended to make sure the investments are making are working. that we are being transparent about how we monitor those. we are evaluating services at all times of day. it's very likely that somebody for example has a lower wage job might not be on a typical 9-5 schedule. were looking at not only how services perform at our peak periods but how it's performing at 10 pm and even overnight. we are distilling a tremendous amount of data but out of it we are trying to identify what are 2-3 key needs. really keep the plan actionable. to that same extent, the plan is approved in april focus primarily on things
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that we can deliver within a one-three-year timeframe so the week is immediate improvements in these neighborhoods. focused on seven key neighborhoods as well as using our data to identify routes heavily used by seniors and people with disabilities. what was exciting to me including this presentation together is even in the last six months since you adopted the plan we've got a lot of stuff on the ground. that's really responding to the key needs. for example in chinatown the key issue is always crowding and we have already gotten new buses out and will continue to get more. we increased peak service on the one california which again was extremely crowded. we implemented one of our source
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proposition a products which not only improved reliability but also reduce turns and save time for people traveling on earth 10 and 12 routes. the implement it a pretty significant portion of the inter-intermission of lien for crosby we have some current work including bus and curb extensions going in in 2017 get we are already realizing a foreign safety and reliability benefits there. this board approved dedicated transit lanes as was pedestrian investments on 16th st. which was identified not only as a improvement for the mission but also for folks on the western edition who are trying to get to sf general. which was found to have significant longer transit travel times than auto travel times. this is a photo
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of our samson project in ice. you can see the first photo we had one way traffic which means the bus was jogging over the battery which was full of inconvenience and crowd. we now have buses and commercial vehicles traveling the full length of the corridor. this is our mission street project which i know you're very familiar with and we are continuing to both draw i think positive results as well as a lot of lessons learned from the project that we will apply to how we roll out and design future projects. we also have a tremendous amount of work underway. the one of the these
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things that we have been challenged by both at risk and john hilley to do is to try to significantly reduce travel time on third street. a key need identified were the bayview was the reliability of the key line for digitally heading towards sunnydale which we've already traveled the entire line of the k. we are looking at innovative ways to reduce the amount of time were spending at signals and we are also looking at enhancements to fourth and king which is a real bottleneck for that route. we are also looking at safety features including a more visible train arriving sign which we hope will reduce the amount of left turns the left turn violations we have. another kind of more nuts and bolts project. we this winter will be adding more service to the 29 but tickly in the a.m. that's a route i think we are seeing because of the free free
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youth pastor were seeing a lot more students using the 29th to get to school were seating crowding you want to make sure we address. we are also seen similar crowding on the [inaudible] despite the fact we have over the last two years increased service on the order of 20+ percent. then we are starting the design process in the public outreach process to do a muni ford style project on the 27 brian. looking at ways we can improve reliability and travel time on a great route to one that doesn't run as frequently as a route like the 14th mission but one that is critical for people traveling to the tenderloin south of market area and getting tremendous amount of traffic as folks are heading towards the bridge. then also kind of key to travel time in the western addition and the tenderloin, is the gary bus robert transit project which will be coming to
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in this december and real milestone of the environmental certification. this is just an example of some of the signal, the bus train coming signals we are testing on third street. other work that is underway. we are continuing to roll out our transit signal priority program the next corridor will be 16th st., fulton and mcallister was all go through david's inner equity strategy. we are also under construction on several segments of the nine san bruno which will help with both reliability and travel time. we are going to begin our reach on geneva to try to again bring some of the muni for treatments to that important outer corridor. then, lastly, we have partnered with the dept. of public works who for some other trickier curb ramps identified they are actually going to go
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into the street because of things like sidewalk basement. whenever we are near a transit route particularly one that has reliability palms at the 27th or 21 from to make it possible so we save time without having the bus pulled in and out of traffic and also will allow more room for customer amenities like shelters. looking forward already to the next update of the strategy, we are looking to take our data analysis to these communities. really hear first-hand what our the keys needs. rather than command with a plan and saying this is what we've got underway, we are going to say how does it feel? where are you fast? where are you slow speakers were kind of trips for transit working for you? were kind of trips up in transit are not working for you? we will then convert that data with our
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technical data to see where there's overlaps. where the community identifies needs we may not have identified we will address identify strategies that respond to those needs. we are very fortunate to have a caltrans planning grant for this work. it's going to allow us to do some acting pretty out-of-the-box techniques. one of the things were going to be doing is going to be doing some focus groups with muni operators who either grew up or lived in some of the neighborhoods that we are focusing on. i think it's kind of an interesting way to extend policy development to our front-line staff but also their unique perspective because of those operating the service and also in many cases customers. we are also partnering with community-based organizations so that we can reach directly into communities three trusted source. and do things like some surveys and focus groups to try to reach people, for example,
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how will customers try to get to work the which is not a typical group that we have strong showing at a neighborhood meeting, but is an important voice in trying to shape this work. this is our overall schedule. as you can see there is an ongoing commitment to implement the strategies that we already have while also informing the next generation strategies throughout reach an additional technical analysis. thank you. >> thank you ms. kirschbaum. members of the board, questions or comments? regiment brinkman brinkman >> i continue to be impressed and thankful for the work you're doing. we were discussing of policy and governance the numbers and some
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fact some of the new residents of san francisco are choosing not to get around by car but taking the bus and walking or biking. i said we are so lucky to have that. i call myself and i corrected myself and said that's not love. this is all because of the planning that you are doing that staff is doing all because of these improvements are you making did i see it on the line i write all the time you had an articulated bus to the route and they fill up. you make the buses move faster and they continue to fill all. so again i just congratulate you all of us in the city are so lucky to have this work going on. we may get some pushback on projects here and there but overall the work that we are doing is really helping to keep people choosing to take muni and choosing to walk advice when they can get i have no substantive input. i just want to say thanks for all the work and i see it's doing a good job and i really appreciate it. he was thank you good director borden >> this is important work were doing good a couple questions i
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know the plan bay area has some equity announces they've done and that feeds into that large land bay area around equity and communities were trying to make sure access? >> i think that's an important connection to make. one of the things that has come up recently is the mtc identifies communities of concern so we are feeding back the information that we have done to identify the neighborhoods that we are working on to then feed back into their analysis. >> then also i like to know more about some of the groups are working with it like maybe you could talk a little bit about i know you mentioned mission street and what groups we can engage with that. if there's a way to get a feedback loop from the people who are using the routes and how they are feeling about it? i know that was an issue round data that had come up before but it would be great item of the city plans to do that? >> so one of the big next apps is to procure consultants support as well as to identify
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community based organizations that can partner on this work. whenever we are in a neighborhood we try to work as closely as possible with community leaders. we have also for this work recently expanded to include sf rising on the equity working group, which is a coalition of different neighborhood organizations including [inaudible] and various other groups working on housing as well as transportation issues. >> that's great. also mention the amazing path [inaudible] do we know how many more people are not accessing the passes that we think could be accessing them? >> that is not something i know. >> just from looking into it sounds like it's a really great user base which is maybe mighty interesting did i've heard people say there's a lot of users that don't know they have access. some of it is a
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linguistic issue >> we can get that gig i was asked that same question recently maybe it was by you. i think we did look just at census data that we have to try to estimate what proportion of the eligible populations are participating to i don't have that number with me but we can certainly get that >> i've also heard specifically in african-american community that people don't seem to have the same knowledge base about the youth pastor at whatever we can do to find a community groups to reach out to those populations would be great. also i love a truck that the off-peak focus. i wondered if you were talking to any other transit agencies around off-peak. you might be familiar with the pilot that's going on with ac transit and bart for late-night service between 1 am-5 am and i don't know for looking at other comes strategies like that that could be another great way because it's not just in city travel but it's kind of spell trouble that matters >> we are participating in a
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regional late-night task force in one of the things we're looking at, for example, if sand trends were to consider providing some overnight service where would muni make the connection with sand trends and also making sure the connections we arty make with ac transit are working. so that is something that we are actively participating in. >> craig. i think this important work like the intersection always were taught about living for projects talk about how those projects intersect with her equity especially a lens we look at is review project we can go be very helpful for ourselves and the public as well. >> anyone else? director ramos >> thank you mister chairman and thank you ms. kirschbaum for this great work. and for your team. it's exciting for me . this is one of the values
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that drives my work and my service here. one of the things that i am i think that would like to remind people of that have not heard about it is this concept that policy link which is an advocacy organization that does this great policy, i believe, angela glover blackwell has stated that equity is the superior growth strategy because what it does it facilitates not just great social outcomes but also in the long run ends up being superior in achieving economic goals as well as environmental sustainability goals. so to that effect, i am really excited about this. i would encourage you to somehow get this policy located so that more organizations know about the word this strategy i should say i don't know if you can share in the policy link conference they be once every
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three years or the transportation association conferences, but i think this is really a fantastic model that you folks have have created here. and a great strategy that i think were transportation agencies and frankly, governmental institutions should be looking to. not the least of which mtc and the decisions made there. building on that, just a couple of questions or observations. i really love the idea of talking to operators and getting their perspective especially some of the once grown up here and how you-i would encourage you to broaden that to include were somehow find a way to reach out to staff,, your general staff. this number of your staffers that also love and grew up on the system and work in the system that have wonderful insight that i've come across that go beyond your operators.
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so you might want to think about making a call because there are some really brilliant folks out there that wonderful insight that are not in a position to exercise those ideas. the thing i think would be really exciting to think about in the future as you proceed with this work is thinking about benchmarks and indicators that can really demonstrate how effective we are serving these populations that we are targeting. it's going to be tough. i have not figured it out yet. but i think that it's something that is worthwhile pursuit could be do want to make sure as we are changing things up and accommodating peoples needs that there are speaking out about that we are responding appropriately and i see that you've got according to your slides, you got some outreach
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going out later this in the summer. the grants you're working on expires in 2018. would love to think of how do we continue this work so that we can build in a sort of how well did we do and where are we on the right track. really good performance indicators are ones that i think we can that are easily measurable for everyone. like including the people we are trying to serve. so i would encourage you to be thoughtful about that try to be creative to get something that is coined to be well received by groups of people that traditionally are not too keen on writing things down or spun into surveys or what have you. but there might be a good way of getting input with its focus groups or whatever you folks are already doing which has been great. i think that probably the one other thing i think would have been more informative for us and i think this gets to your director borden's point is seen a list.
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i will get to this in the title vi presentation but a list of the community groups. he referred to it in the staff report work here, in this presentation that you are working with partnerships and community-based organizations that i think the testimony of how robust of job you are doing when the public can actually see see a list of the groups you folks are reaching out to. it's not always clear that all of our bases are covered and i trust that you are but i think that it should be elevated to demonstrate again to other organizations and/or governmental bodies what really good authentic engagement and outreach and partnership to use your term, has been exercised in this prospect i think also it's also a nod and a acknowledgment to the committee-based organizations and i would also encourage you to reach out to service providers as well in addition to
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i do mean just advocates. they serve an important role in the city, but three service providers also serve a lot of folks and a special needs that i think merit our attention. but to install them, someplace where it is accessible for everyone i know that a lot of these groups are under resourced as it is. for them to be able to demonstrate and document that they are working with you with the agency, it makes the case for them to get resources that they need to do more work like this that i think is valued by all parties. so i think that is all i have. but again, i deeply appreciate all this great work you have done and excited to see the-one last little piece. the treasure island community. i've heard i keep hearing it's one of the more inclusive communities and really reflects more and more of a diversity of income and
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folks that might might traditionally be dismissed or not thought of. i think it is -it would be worthy of looking into just to make sure that we got our bases covered in providing services to that community. i know that in the title vi stuff as we will see was identified as one of these communities that it is worthy of attention and we are talking about these think it so i encourage you to keep that in mind. >> thank you. anyone else? boomer members of the public >> we've got i think three people who expressed it. >>[calling public comment cards] >> you don't want to speak. two members of the public don't want to speak. >> good afternoon. bob allen. i want to start by thanking staff and the senior leadership providing the resources to do
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this work at a lot of the folks are not here because were obviously we got from the election. a lot of the groups including the one i came from this morning and a note pops up to raise funds for the system and i think that's why you don't see some of them here today. i do agree with some of the comments. we should talk to julie and the stuff about getting to the trp conference. some of the other conferences and talk about. i do think it's a model in the work that's been done with director ramos in the last any good i appreciate it. amazing good start. i do think it goes a long way to similar conversation with director peskin we had with it guttural if people see more equitable outcomes in the system i think it gets them were excited about voting could see about that next week. a lot of inserting with the this years election but hopefully will see that manifested in the vote in support for transit in the city. i know there are folks here today not happy about some of the particular projects but the mission street project
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which is very complicated project. i my own concerns about its. i think were trying to work through it and i think we can learn a lot from over doing with that is doing working with community groups. but outreach efforts. that we can correct some of the things that happened but also to say think we have to judge of the system and i certainly am critical and i think things are not been handled right but in terms of the totality of the free program the equity strategy and her feelings about particular project and i hope we can can take a little more holistic view what the agency is doing and we can disagree when we disagree broken out a little bit more of a complete view and i think this effort not just the start of it but the full implementation of it would go a long way and will try to do a better job getting more folks to the table to and i think one of the reasons are not as many folks at the table is honestly the scale of the housing crisis is sucked a lot of the organization out of the room. ida is one recent of
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these many folks present and hopefully the crisis gets addressed transportation [inaudible] >> thank you. >> >>[calling public comment cards] >> herbert weiner. when you referred to act would he, and people walking a quarter of a mile from the bus stop that means that everyone gets an equal chance. so in other words, if the seniors and disabled can't cover that distance, well, live and let die. it is not a situation of equity. seniors and the disabled are not equal to those who are physically fit. i think this really has to be addressed. now i can understand a concern over the areas underserved. you've highlighted those areas. that is fine but what about people who live outside of the areas. people who also are seniors and
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disabled equity mean servings inserting everybody. this plan does not seem to do it. now, the other thing that i am concerned about is talking dialoguing with community groups. should it be within individuals? leaders don't represent individuals. they can speak for themselves they do not give accurate representation to individuals concerns. this is a quick and dirty way of doing it but it's not realistic. there are people that are not going to be represented and voices not going to be heard. this is not democracy. so i think there's a lot of rethinking that has to be done with this. you should really live the word equity and not give it a cursory implementation that you have proposed good
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>> anyone else wish to address the board on this one? if not director reiskin >> just to speak to some of the commons made by the board and alerted of the public comment. first of all i think in terms of getting the word out about this, absolutely believe this is very much leading edge kind of work. i give great credit to julie and her team. and the team being not just the city, the mta staff, but the group of folks from the advocacy community really pushed us and helped shape this. i think she actually has done some presented at conferences. i think director hilly presented this at a conference as well. we will take that and continue that work. i think this is groundbreaking for the transit industry. it is actually groundbreaking for the city to some extent as will be i recently met with the new director of human rights commission with julie and share this information of what we were doing and i think she's even look at this as a model of the city agencies in terms of service provision just want to
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clarify that. in terms of indicators and resources, i think the framework of the strategy is actually built on indicators but it's very much measuring service among a number of different dimensions in these seven words comparing them to the system wide average. so we have very direct ways of measuring before and after. once we've added that bus gone to 60 foot buses or change the signal priority we will be will to see for moving the needle on the exact things we were that the interventions were meant to address. then in terms of resourcing the evaluation, resourcing the outreach from resourcing the implementation of the recommendations that come, you didn't fully fund that in this current two-year budget we are seeking some grants to augment on the outreach side. i will
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point out for informational purposes only, that the charter amendment laced on the ballot by the board of supervisors that's currently prop j the first expenditure category within the transfer to portion is to advance and sustain the equity and affordability work. >> thank you. thank you ms. kirschbaum. ms. boomer spews item 12 approve the sfmta a title 16 title six program update and the results of their required systemwide monitoring of service standards and policies >> good aftergood revelatory of force energy for sfmta eight here to talk to about with all my colleagues about the 2016 title six program update. title vi of the civil rights act of 1964 provides no person in the us shall [inaudible] be
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excluded from participation in the night the benefits of war be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving federal financial assistance. the federal transit administration which provided a portion of our funding is the one who monitors us for title vi compliance. our title vi program is hard to be committed every three years with your approval will we will be 70 this title vi program on december 1, 2016. the program covers both general program requirements as was transit specific and all give you a couple of the highlights of the general program required that julie kirschbaum will go into detail on that transit provider specific ones but all attachments are in your board package. you may have seen this
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notice in our facilities or on our vehicles good this is important requirements. it provides for customers their rights under title vi. it states that sfmta ages not discriminate on the base of race color national were gendered interactions where they can go for more information and to file a complaint. it's in 10 languages. languages spoken by the highest concentrations of ltd. english proficient individuals in the city and county of san francisco. all you can see it on there, on the bottom this will be a tagline or budget is the icon of a phone. it's 311. directs and 10 language is where customers can go for free language assistance which is a vital requirement of title vi. the list there are some the other place you might see that i may have not mentioned. in addition to our notice we also complaint procedures posted. we have on her website complaint procedures and title vi complaint forms and 10 languages. we also track and monitor title vi complaint with separate compliance process that's within my group. the public participation plan language assistance but be covered in more detail by
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candace hurt the languages is the grant touches on how do we provide meaningful access to those in our service area that we might encounter programs and services may be limited english proficient and how do we make sure we are using the right programs and services and assistance tools to make sure they can navigate our system. the lane which assistance program informs the public participation plan which is really what houses are outreach and public engagement strategy. the fda gives us wide latitude work does patient plan includes but requires that we go out to the community that we talk to them again candace will get into mortgage on this but we are seeking the viewpoints of low income minority and lapd populations that are important transit decision-making processes that we are including them in continuously infrequently and again were going to decide when you want to meet. what works for you? how can we get to a meeting? do care what topics will get you coming in, first at the last highlight i will talk about and headed over to julie, is the fta also was to make sure that for nonelected committees and councils transit advisory bodies, that we are paying attention to making sure
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they are diverse. we talked about they want to know the diversity of these advisory groups and they want to make sure we got the right recruitment tools in place to make sure were keeping on on the diversity on. how can doctor julia. >> thank you. >> julie kirschbaum with operation support. the title vi program update also has extensive transit requirements. it requires us to provide our service standards and policies which we also as an agency bring to you and published in our short-range transit plan periodically. we are significant as shaped by the transit effectiveness project as well as some of our city charter goals including on-time performance. he also prepared demographic maps and charts to understand the demographics of our ridership. we have a enclosed documentation of our public engagement process for
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title vi transit policy. which we stopped in 2013 with both extensive board review as well as stakeholder review. it also asks us to catalog any fair or service equity analyses that we are done in the three-year period. so every time we bring a major service change to this board or eight there changed to this board, we evaluate it to make sure that it doesn't create a disparate impact or disproportionate burden to the stakeholders. then what ongoing to focus on today is also includes service monitoring to make sure that our services performing in an equitable way. the key part of the service monitoring fta does not cause what our standards should be. they realize that in some communities having a bus every 60 min. is a reasonable minimum headway. in san francisco you've chosen a different path.
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for example on our rapid routes we have a policy weight of every 10 min. a connector routes like the 37 corbett for example a minimum policy of every 30 min. good in many cases we provide more frequent service based on demand. so the fta does not tell us what our policy should be but we ask they monitor to make sure our policies are not being more effectively administered in higher income were less minority neighborhoods than in low income more minority neighborhoods. our service standards are tailored to the type of routes or the type of vehicle. so for example we honestly can carry more people on our 60 foot buses that are 40 foot buses. we strive to be at about 85% of what we consider full from a planning perspective. just by way of
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comparison, something that like crush load, like the end of outside lands is probably about 125% of our planning capacity so we try to allow room for variability. for on-time performance from their frequent routes, we are focusing on gaps and bunching. because typically you're not looking at a schedule when you go to buy the 38 geary on routes that come less frequently we are looking at scheduling adherence and what percentage of our routes within 85 percent on target from policy headways come i think i recover those from service coverage, we have a citywide policy that all residential neighborhoods will be within a quarter-mile of muni service. the fta also requires that we design two areas of service policies could i think the difference between standards and policy and policies tend to be less quantitative. the first is for
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vehicle assignment. we have a policy it mta that our vehicles are signed in a way that doesn't discriminate but also responds to the technical limitations of the route. for example 60 foot route would not go on a tight hilltop neighborhood. right now as part of this policy is concentrated our newest vehicles at bus divisions like woods which have the highest percentage of low income and minority routes. then excitingly, as we you're the kind of completion of our fleet replacement we will have a really young fleet throughout the system and that something we are seeing every day is newer and more reliable vehicles out on the streets. sf mta defines minority and low
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income and two-way street when were doing a spatial analysis like looking at shelters, we use the census data. any census tract that is more minority or more low income that are citywide averages we would consider him a nordic census tract. based on the 2014 american census data the city is 51 percent minority in about 28% low income. any census tract that is a higher democrat but then that would be considerable income by margot minority suspect the routes were very fortunate that we have very rich data set where is actually interviewed our customers so we know route by route what percentage of our customers are minority or low income. systemwide, about 50% of our customers self identify as a minority. about 51% of our customers are from households that make less than 20% of the
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federal poverty level. per household 04 that's about $65,000 a year. this is a map based on the census analysis anywhere in blue is showing a census tract that is higher residence who self identify as binaries on the citywide average. then this is the similar map but looking at folks living in low income households. i'm very pleased to report that throughout this analysis did not identify any categories of disparate impacts for minority customers were disproportionate burdens for low income residents. this is when we compared routes across all categories. i am also pleased to report that we had to findings from last train
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three years ago we were able to address. in 2013 we identified that there was-it was more likely much more likely they would find a shelter in a not minority neighborhood but in a minority neighborhood. we have closed that gap within our 8% threshold and we have increased the number of shelters in minority census block groups from 58% to 62% we are continuing to push that out. we are prioritizing new shelters in minority and low income neighborhoods were ever positive shelters are a little tricky because that's [inaudible] not the decision-maker. it's decided to wait dpw hearing but we are incorporating them into his many new projects as we can and also working closely local
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businesses and residents to put in shelters particularly where were getting community request. he also had a finding that our policies are headway minimum headway policies did not align with our conditions and that was in part because we are in a transition period. we are updating our policies to match the guidelines from the effect of this project. though so through this updated analysis we now found that 90+ percent of our routes are meeting our policy headways that there wasn't any more or less likely to not be meeting them for minority and low income routes. those were the two findings we addressed it then our last piece of our presentation, we want to focus on the public participation plan as well as our limited english proficiency burden, and handed over to candace sulu will walk you through that with you. >> thank you julie. chairman
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nolan directors good afternoon candace is to medications director for sf mta. it's really a good walk you through the public participation plan and also talk a livid about the language assistance plan. so following what kathleen talked about which was one of the requirements that the fta guidance that we will maintain a public participation planted the purpose of this plan is to provide a framework strategies and tools that help us ensure we are effectively communicating with the public with information that they want to know in the way they want to engage on issues of service changes, fair changes, as well as decisions that were making in the transportation space. i think it is really interesting to look at the approach that we've taken this year in 2016. last report was done in 2012. but in this case, the agency
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took a robust approach to conducting this work and really try to engage all the best practices that we want to see happening on everything that we do here in researching the public participation plan. this effort i want to acknowledge was led by kathleen [inaudible] as well as the communications division and in conjunction with the comptroller's office who did a lot of the reason. so this works. and karina garbo from the comptroller's office is here to help us to answer specific questions later. so this slide was to through some of the methodology oof the plan. again really robust set of work. there were over 4700 people participated in an online survey. so the core keys is quantitative survey and qualitative research 4700
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people who were part of the survey taking process but to get to that 4700 people and beyond, it took out reach to over 200 community-based organizations did we reach out to their members and continued continue to push the survey out. in addition to the quantitative work that was qualitative research done as well. with 13 executive interviews with members of these community based organizations representatives i should say. as well as nine sessions with a focus group. that just hope contextualize all the information electing to really ensure there was a rich public participation plan. a number of diverse opinions were heard. they're all contained in the report actually quite larger more walk-through some of them but we could spend a day going
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through all the information that we found which was i think really hard into a good i do want to appreciate this board and patented to because i know this was presented over the last two years to you all and you provided a lot of crates which input which we were able to include in the research. so some of the commonalities are listed on this particular slide. even though we did take some preferences depend on the demographic group we were looking at were talking to at the time, some things really rose to the top across all the [inaudible] the key one is the sf mta website is a critical source of information for customers. i think sometimes it's easy to forget that because it's a page that is there and that's available as a
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site to research but actually got a lot of live information on a. consulate being updated and that people use as a resource for information. as you might guess service changes and fair changes are great interest to our customers and they continue to tell us that they want us to prioritize that information. we also learned again rising to the top that when we have beatings we want people to participate in that we need to make it convenient for them both in time of day and in proximity to where we are asking people to go to a meeting. we will talk more about that later. just a couple of highlighted charts that came out of this research. again you're seeing here service changes of interest just under 70% the people across all demographics being interested in that information. there are changes was kind of the next highest area of interest and
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then construction projects a little bit lower. it was interesting to note that for english proficient respondents they are more interested in service changes but 72% of them are interested in service changes and those with less english proficiency are more motivated by [inaudible] change. we also noted that higher income respondents are more interested in construction projects that are low income respondents. in addition, how people are actually able to provide comments act to us is something our survey work delves into a bit. most respondents were about 60+ percent prefer to submit their comments after a meeting via e-mail on a website or iphone. even during a meeting but more of them after meeting and in particular, younger
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participants have that preference. younger participants also lower awareness of our meetings. those things may be somehow correlated whereas older respondents tend to birth her for providing feedback by speaking publicly we see some of that we've had public meetings that there is a generational difference in preferences when people engage with us in that type of setting. again just some highlights. again more in the report. so some other insights that we had are listed here. you are pleased to see in many cases that the information that came out of this research was actually thinks we're at it we start to experiment with some of these techniques based on other research that we have done in past years. this helped us see it was alignment with what we some of the techniques we have been trying out of late.
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for instant always a number of multimedia communication tools and strategies to reach broader audiences were currently doing that that something replays through this research could we've also been looking for opportunities to reduce barriers to information by making sure that we provide a number of translations and that we are working harder to reach low income and minority populations by working with community-based organizations. some of the things we could do more of however the casino this is a work in progress we have a ways to go, is that we need to work harder to customize the information to groups of people. people are telling us our regular basted the stakeholders are telling us they value when the outreach that we are providing to them is customized to their neighborhood with to their group. they want to attend meetings that are personally relevant to them personally is
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held in locations convenient to them and times that work for them. again very specifically annotated in the research. they also indicated stakeholders have indicated update would like to see you all sf mta board in particular as well as staff attend meetings in the neighborhood. this was seen as more than just logistical convenience and i do want to make this point that was more about symbolism. at about tone and demeanor of how we are working with the communities that we hope will be engaged with our work. and that we need to be engaged with our work in order to make changes that are really truly for them. so there was this sense of ensuring that we are respecting authentically respecting, the needs of the community and we are there in the community with them. so this element is very symbolic.
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there was also this one comes from interviews with community-based organization leaders that they would like to see sf mta prioritize the interest of the public and to work harder to communicate information using various channels including e-mail some to we currently do, working with schools as a means to reach audiences particularly hard to reach limited english proficient audiences, and their neighborhood meetings. with regard to the point about prioritizing public interest, this is something i think that we need to work harder to make that point. and to connect between how we view our approach to our work in the community views our approach to our work. finally, sf mta
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stakeholders place a high priority on technology and the feedback that they have given good we make sure that feedback loop is actually in place. when we are working with them on plans, service changes and fair changes. so now i'm what you move to the language assistance plan. this again is another part of the title vi requirements that kathleen i think is executed this is about customers who of limited ability to read, write them a speak or understand english very well. again another large body of research to help us understand how to communicate with these groups of people. this research was actually severed from the public participation plan of research so included again working with community-based organizations to do interviews to conduct focus groups and many which were in language either through translation or conducted in language in the language of the
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group presented to. and in addition to these groups it also included quantitative research with customers and quantitative research with staff. so well-rounded body of work. the approach follows a four factor model which is outlined in guidance from fta to include the number or proportion of limited image proficient eligible to be served on counter by sf mta program. the frequency of which an lapd individual my contact in sf mta program the importance of that program to people's lives and the resources available for outreach to lep individuals. this is what we found. approximately one in five people in san francisco are
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limited english proficient. a substantial number at about 22% of san francisco's population. most of the language spoken our chinese and spanish followed by [inaudible] vietnamese and russian. an arabic was recently added. in other words that released thousand people who now speak arabic - excuse me - who are arabic speakers who speak english [inaudible] a technical way to say. lep individuals rarely commute to work in public transit and depend on unity for daily activities could impact 91% or 9/10 ride muni at least once a week. many of our staff are encountering lep individuals on a daily basis about one in three. and typically again those languages are chinese, spanish and filipino. so our
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staff, are often in a position especially on the front line of engage with people who are limited english proficient and need to resources to help them. 83% of the people we surveyed who are lep individuals report being satisfied with muni's current service. although they knowledge is an opportunity to do more. and they have told us to the survey that when they are not choosing to use muni services is typically not because of a language barrier. again another test or threshold for fta. finally, we spent approximately $150,000 a year for document translation and $125,000 for the materials we produce for these and i would say that's actually a
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conservative figure. some other things we learn. l ep customers are quite satisfied with our services but still we have some work to do. some of these things include making sure that we are continuing to promote the additional agenda language assistance tools are better available to customers. although the frequency of use of these tools is increasing it still points to a need to promote the language bug 311 when which assistance available to customers and to continue to provide information in languages that are preferred. in addition to prioritize the information about service and route changes to make sure that when people speak english less than very well that they are able to get information that's directly affecting their ability to get around the city.
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we also learned that we need to continue partnerships with community-based organizations on an ongoing seemed to kathleen and through julie's talk to make sure that we are using these audiences, these groups of people to reach the audiences who may have more challenges in understanding our communication and then finally, there's an opportunity and a need to train our staff to ensure that they can on the ground and the front line help lep individuals understand our system. a couple of charts just showing the reasons that limited english proficient individuals might use muni are very similar to what i think any individual might use muni
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might be using it for your shopping, doctors visits, visiting family and friends, are high on the list. there is some age discrepancies here with older those above the age of 60 but using it more for shopping and doctor visits and those who are younger using muni for going to work and going to school in terms of those who are lep individuals. again this theme of the website rising to the top of the list is evident in this chart could i thought was interesting that it was a notation that spanish speakers are more likely than any other language group to use the sf mta website as a resource. we saw those types of dispersions in the data but generally there's no supplies herewith the website fires and materials being summoned the top language assistance tools that are available to people. transit operators who speak my language are also quite
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important resource particularly relied on by mandarin speakers. those who need translation services being able to go to 311 for those services. what's next? so one of the reasons that i am presenting this information to you is because the communications division is responsible for implementing a lot of the public participation plan and the language assistance plan. so the mechanism for doing that is our public outreach and engagement team strategy which we eventually called [inaudible] and how it is a way for us to articulate the standards of our reach and provide guidance for our projects and programs that are out in the community and to outline a process for tailoring a communications plan to meet the needs of various
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communities. so it is our intent to ensure that what we learned out of these two clans the public participation plan and the language assistance plan, are built into public so that it's institutionalized throughout the organization. it is a way to help staff make sure they have the information and resources they need that are documented in the france us and that's a key next up. in addition, there are some things we need to do to work on to really fully instituted throughout the organization including building and feedback loops that are natural and logical. for projects. all nine community input sessions pointed to the need to loop back when we hear information and feedback from communities that we need to be able to convey the we've heard that feedback and how we have incremented or considered implementing the information we received. then finally, the
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website happens to be that we are in the process of upgrading our website. so this is something that is very live and happening right now. as a next step. one of the things that we will be part of the new iteration of the website will be better richer language translation. that allow us to use machine learning to translate for the most part the entire site to allow those who are lep individuals to get the information in the language they prefer. so that concludes our presentation and i will turn to-your presentations from any of us and so will open it up for questions for julie kathleen and perhaps even [inaudible] from the comptroller's office. if you have specific questions be was thank you good members of the board, questions were commons?
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commons? very interesting all the way through. director borden he was either much of the ship airport i think a lot of great findings came out of it and look forward to doing a better job lots of people don't feel like they have the ability to influence things happen. i think the groundhog can effectively have our reach and input processes and feedback loops is critical. i do have a question but a title vi that all the different languages but i do not see braille. we have rail? braille? >> title vi visit without limits public national origin raise colored national working and was based on the supreme court case that if you denied access based on ability to read and understand english well,
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that could be determined to be national origin discrimination in braille would fall under i think ada would not necessarily fall under title vi. >> right. i think we would have things in braille as well. i've asked that people reach out to me who are blind about the transportation network in general [inaudible] >> i can certainly take that back >> thanks >> one comment i make about this they suggest a move our meetings around. in my stance has been remarkably unsuccessful both here and elsewhere it's a good idea if you like the idea but nobody comes. so i respectfully disagree with that recommendation. >> i would say were experienced in planning if you had a big project or something of coming then it worked out very effectively. wasn't necessarily most productive meeting we ever have in terms of people showing up i think that maybe for some of the bigger projects like maybe with geary or prt might make to do a
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meeting in the communities we hear the voices of the community. >> it definitely requires something like that that's really immediate to the folks because we've done regular meetings elsewhere and nobody comes. >> thank you. i just want to say we talked about this policy and governance as well. i appreciate the thoroughness of the outreach and the desire and the success we've had in bringing people in it they speak other languages, making sure people have access to it. we touch weekly on the cost of doing that but again we spoke about this that the benefit to society of making sure that everybody can write our transit system and everybody can have access to the information is just impossible to calculate that i think the idea that we are expanding that access in making sure that everyone who needs it can get the information they need to write our system, i love it when the operators help out in the native lingo to help somebody out. i think that is just it's
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a lovely part of being in san francisco to have somebody approach the operator and ask in their home language and be answered in their home language it's just great work on this report and look for to us continuing to do everything we can to reach out and make a transit system much more inclusive. is this the form of the report that will be going to the federal government words it sort of a pacific specific presentation to them you need to do? are they going to get primus the information we got here? he was go get what's in the board packet the title vi packet is a word document will be a pdf there's numerous appendices and attachment we uploaded through their grant system that we upload documents and gets trapped by them. it'll be uploaded as a pdf. >> it looks as i've no other question it stew is director ramos spews work just a complement this great work. your team is just
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>> you've certainly raise the bar from my observations and i had the privilege of serving on title vi committees and seeing the way that you are doing work is just raises the bar. i applaud you for your efforts and all the work that went into even just this staff report and the presentation, the way that you folks organize the date of the critical points jump out you it's just really really great work and i hope you're celebrating in some way shape or form. width don't worry. it took six months of my life >>[laughing] >> we be remiss director garcia was here absolutely amazed. reports comes in everything is together it is been hours of sleeplessness which it should be. this is very critical because a lot of stuff we also work with the
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office of civic engagement and immigrants of their. there were critical in giving us feedback and reaching out with the directors were amazing incoming giving us feedback we immediately incorporated the included it as an organization response to your earlier comment bla p and the fda has 60 days to look at it see if they work it back if there's any additional information they need once it's done to live on a website and at the back i think it's probably appendix a and each plan are the detailed list work in organizations we listed out the geographic map week were going. >> wonderful. thank you >> director hsu >> i really appreciate the thoroughness of the report immunity job going into individual lines. that's really fantastic i did have one question is about how the 2013 survey was done. specifically, they come on board and are handed paper. with one question being, how do you question of low income was framed? >> it's relevant because we are actually in the process right now of updating that survey. so both in 2013, 2013
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and right now we are doing it's an onboard survey. it's upwards of 25 bus house and people are survey. it's a trilingual survey. the current version is in tablet form. it's more in the form of an interview. we are partnering with mtc on it and they found when they did it in other places like bart they got very high, as high as 60-70% response rate. that's why we have shifted to that model. but the survey itself is- >> how does somebody get asked
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the question of are you low income? >> what we do is we asked people what is their household size and what we asked them what is her household income and then we cross tabulate that to determine. so were not asking somebody are you low income or not. were using the information they provide in analyzing it. >> ms. boomer number so the public >> is one person turned in a speaker card. herbert weiner. >> herbert weiner. i will be brief. i notice that it's one quarter of a mile to the bus stop in all neighborhoods and this means all neighborhoods have common misery and this is mta democracy inaction. now you really should ask in the surveys help people like walking a quarter of a mile to the bus stop. i don't think
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that's been directly asked. i don't think you'll get a good result. now as a result of the community outreach i saw that in action at the mission cultural center a few months ago. it was quite explosive. fortunately, no one struck a match. now this is an example of community outreach gone wrong. significant people connected with mta and mta even left the meeting. you have a lot of work to do with community outreach. hopefully, there will be more less groupthink on this board. people on this board voted unanimously on this decision. i heard very little dissent. maybe there's some dissent in the back room before the meeting, but i see very little democracy here among the board and we really need some checks
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and balances. >> thanks. and every us wish to address the board on the subject? >> very quickly all like the idea feedback. i like the idea feedback in this room. i like. feedback to public comments. thank you. >> thanks. motion on the? >> motion to approve >> before we vote him and go back to a director borden's point about britain made it may not be for this document be interesting to know what the agencies providing encrypted surely this opposition party have a large population with the growing population of people with sight difficulties. members consent we have to director to come back with something on that? okays with the motion and second. behaviors because opposed? thank you much. ms. boomer
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earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you
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do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's
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least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we
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are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those.
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>> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to
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save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in
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for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san
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francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage. when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake. >> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for >> >> pd united states of america think outside the box that have
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