>> good afternoon commissioner and welcome to the regularly scheduled meeting of scheduled meeting of any kind. please silence any devices that may sound off during the proceedings. and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. i'd like to call roll at this time. commissioner president fong commissioner vice president richards commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar and commissioner moore. >> commissioners commissioners, the first item on your agenda is items proposed for continuance item one at townsend conditional use authorization is proposed to

december 8, 2016, item 2, 32 avenue discretionary review is proposed july january 2015 and items 3 ab potrero hill discretionary review and variance have been withdrawn commissioners further in the discretionary review authorization calendar item 13 market street discretionary review it has been withdrawn i have no other items proposed continuance and there are no speaker cards. >> any public comment on the items proposed for continuance? >> not seeing any, public comment is closed. and commissioner moore. >> move to continue. >> second. >> on that motion to continue items as proposed commissioner hillis

commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore and commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and places us under commission matters consideration of drifts for october 2016. >> any public comment on draft minutes not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioner moore. >> move to continue. >> second. >> move to approve sorry. >> thank you. i appreciate that on that motion to adopt the minutes for thursday, november 10, 2016, commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and places us on item 5 for commissioners questions or comments. >> commissioner vice president richards in this morngsz paper the carpenter this urges speed

on sf licenses pursue looks like the task force of 22 members came up with several items many of them touch land use that appears it proposing 64 passed its with a majority i think we as a department and commission look at this and figure this out and said what the impact is especially given the current regulations i'm looking for some type of a presentation by the task force or some type of an informational in the near future i don't know what the date is proeblt january so anyways that's in today's paper some items were eye opening and proposing x padded with a majority of soma and mission replacement of pdr i'd like to have an informational on the impact of

that what it does to the pipeline of future and on the central soma but touches the mission maybe schedule that two. >> commissioner moore. >> i'd like to ask director rahaim perhaps ask mr. albert if transportation to us about 45 thousand uber lyft licenses for the transit policies into non-designated parking zones and a pattern that is more disruptive at the moment than what is definitely possible under the current unregulated how it causes more hardship than solutions like to see mr. albert in the way he looks at problem solving i'd like the department to answer some of the questions. >> ya just a couple of items

support sxhifksz i didn't want on the cannabis task force as you recall we asked from this share that task force be formed i think that in hopes some of the results and finding would be deliverable to us before november 8th so i support that if we can get that on the agenda as soon as possible that would be great to for the commissioners, i was a panel lift a local architect former arithmetic held to salon about all the things we suspect transit and housing, etc. one thing that was different and maybe not but to consider the question that new york went through square footage versus the number of density for people the large unit for sale condo

units are are secondary global homes when you don't have occupancy at night in a few areas of attain when that is happening i encourage this group to look at the towers and see how many lights are on 8 o'clock at night and does necessarily want to start a dialogue it is interesting someone mentioned vancouver passed its a vacancy task if you're not a full-time resident want to bring that up for further thought. >> commissioner moore. >> i'm supportive of those and the ones i'm asking for the work calendar action item and act on in kind of more extinguisher how we move forward and be corruptive having answers to the

question that would be great. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> a followup on your comments commissioner president fong the density issue is a problem we've been talking about coupled with the projects we're approving the pdrs as well as the 317 coupled with the average square feet house if in san francisco that was published a couple of weeks ago and the massive houses in the study or the informational maybe part of 317 or separate we'll get an understanding my head spins when every single dwelling unit is a single-family home. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much i echo the comments we touched on that briefly we talked about how rent-controlled is used and other tools vancouver is one example and maybe we need to

enclosure those adding into that - we're at lunch and talking about the same thing in regards to parking we talked about it occasionally in conversation but i think we need to make that more a continuance issue for the exact uses of ground parking structure we share the ride services and a decrease in car ownership but yet we continue to approve projects that have one or two floors of ground parking that's fine you're developing that space; right? so a space rather than nothing but we need to now be very active in thinking about what will those spaces be when fewer are utilized by actual cars that we need to turn them into entryways for the services and delivery

services rather than deliver services on the spaces and other spaces suitable for underground spaces that those things can be used as i think we need to be more active that appears we're not about to move in the direction of not approving parking we need to see how we'll use the spaced in the future. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> that's on our action calendar and this is a thread we add to the presentation wherever that is going. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to department matters items 6 director's announcements. >> jonas i was going to mention the follow-up work particularly the two ballot measures 64 which legalized cannabis you have a memo in your packet describing the specification i'll get today in

your packet for next week just one important point the mayor yesterday issued an chef directive to develop regulations around this and to remind you the proposition was worded the sale of cannabis will not be legal until january of 2018 the state has to develop lance regulations and all sorts of things we have a year before we will be working with you over the next month to develop the land use controls with the jurisdiction that can sell and our understanding the relationship continue what passed its and mcds i know is going to be of interest the second proposing x the pdr replacement we'll be happy to have a discussion about 3 a we're going to quickly look at the impacts of that and which

projects will be effected how they'll be affected that will it takes time but probably in the early new year we'll come back with specific analysis as well i'll be happy to do and the regulations go into effect on the pdr replacement wale deal with that respect to existing projects that have pdr space. >> thank you. >> that concludes my presentation. for today. >> commissioner moore. >> director rahaim as our wearing the regional hat particularly on the proposing 64 and we asked you to also bring to the table what other communities have decided because we're always been a liberal community with a wider open door but not take the brunt of the region about what they're thinking of doing but you from the region perspective to help

us create the next set of questions that come into the large discussion thank you. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> one other point a followup to the prop 64 there are properties unaware of in my neighborhood that are waiting for january 2018 and sit there for another year in anticipation these regulations will come out those people that are purporting the property don't understand the rules in terms of vacancy. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to general public comment not to exceed 15 minutes at this time, members of the public may address the commission to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission up to three minutes.

i have one speaker card. >> thank you. >> okay tim tom gilberty. >> tom gilberty i was hoping that you and the rec and park pr (inaudible) mostly because anything under 9 stories is really set up for rooftop garden the rooftops are having their inexperienced don't know what growth the trees and the wind is terrible the bombardment of sun is terrible if rec and park are experienced

with gardening they'll be helpful to what we need to do especially in the south of market it is a place of garden for neighbors to meet without been a being a consumer that is really good next successful buildings that survive earthquakes although the millennium towers with not to be occupiable after an earthquake they're successful if at the stand and doesn't fall down that needs to be revised we need to be building buildings that not only will stand but will be hospitable you can live there if that's a limit to what we do with our space that should be a limit next occupying in any buildings occupancy they use lights their

dark they're not lit i live across a new building that was finished last year they leave the lights on twenty-four hour a day empty unowned unit - who is moving in what percentage from outside the bay area and residents that are living in san francisco i think another limit we should be building and planning for houses for people that can - have lived in san francisco and move into those buildings that would get a lot more motion going and i guess that's going to do that i was hoping to get parks. >> you guys together until another time thank you.

>> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners president of the middle polk neighborhood association wanted to make a couple of comments about office development in to today, the business times recorded the macy's is in contract for 200 and $50 million the planning department did an exceptional job throughout the years of maintaining the downtown plan and keeping an eye on on the encroachment you have to look at those issues holistically a week ago an article got a lot of attention john's is now mediating the tenderloin central soma will add office space and prop o passed yesterday more office space at hunters point where unemployment is 4 percent our structures is

stretched to the limit and i don't think that is necessary for gone conclude to hand over the keys of the office development perhaps community discussion involving all the stakeholder chamber of commerce and labor and hotel industries neighborhood may say you know maybe we need more hotel development maybe more residential development the discussion it takes time so i urge the commissioners and the department to work with the community to really think about the solutions around this because a lot of energy and activism went zot historic downtown plan i was reading that is monumental groups in chinatown and the tenderloin and soma we really have to look at the issues holistically i wanted to mention you know the

chevy company cip is gone and the choose is a independent retailer is gone and others those are important issues i urge the commission and department to look at the hard work of upholding the line on office what 23 we hit a recession and a lot of companies and building are vacant and issues to think about i'll leave it not an immediate item but on your radar in the next year or so particularly with the economic pressures that office development brings thank you. >> much turn around i am sue

hester i'm encouraged by the commissioners comments quite frankly because the whole idea of unoccupied housing units means large when we have the momentum to approve housing and there are certain people that come here all the time must approve everything before you i have a couple of anyone dan things one is your go or about so have a lot of academy of art housing i'll be brief and, of course, you're not going to get it it wasn't in our packets you got the agenda that says it's really up next week so i'll telling them u telling you i'll submit something to whatever

e-mail that you have and i'll send is to the planning commission and the department staff will be upset i'm going to do it look for comments about academy of art housing which is on our calendar next week the other thing i got here late not having access to the door i think you may be have dealt with that but you have on our calendar the address on the issue on the agenda for this morning not advertised at 416 here's the planning commission calendar 416 here's the rec and park commission calendar room 4 hundred perhaps you've addressed this before i got here and find out when i listen to the city plan but the main thing look for

an e-mail on the academy of art thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> okay comment is closed. commissioner vice president richards. >> just one thought or comment often members of the public come in ask us to hear items that are earlier in the purview of other building permits and building nature building code needs to be aired before the department of building inspection. >> through the chair if i may i skipped over item 7 under department matters the board of appeals and historic preservation commission fortunately, no reports from any of those. >> bodies. >> that's why you skipped over them under our regular calendar for pier 70 mixed use informational presentation. >> good afternoon rich department staff from the city

i'm joined by david, brad and mark from the port of san francisco dennis from the mayor's office of economic workforce development and john from the planning department to present their informational presentation on the pier 70 mixed use project that is it is a public-private partnership before the port of san francisco and others the port tips to rehab and redevelop 20 acres and initiate the redevelopment of the design and controls for a multi phased mixed use development on the site as well as two adjacent properties as envisioned the project has new market-rate and commercial use, rail and light industrial and parking and shoring line and public open space

the property project has transportation circulation improvements and new upgraded infrastructure and geotechnical improvements and as i mentioned the 9 acres of open space the pier 70 mixed use is located within the iron works of the historic places the prehistoric buildings will be rehabbed for new used to chief those goals that amends the general plan and planning code and add a special use district special use district for the project site and incorporates the design standards and guidelines in the pier 70 design for the document the zoning maps will be ancestor shang us mc-2 so the proposed zoning and the 28 acres will be increased inform 90 feet equip the shoreline as authorized in

prop f it amends the waterfront use plan it will be afforded further opportunity as part of certification of the environmental impact report the general plan and the planning code text amendment and the design documents just to note if process merits the development that is concurring to the north at the mission rock sponsored by the giant to provide further information i'll introduce kelly and others that concludes my presentation. and we're all available for any questions thank you. >> thank you, rich. >> good afternoon, commissioners commissioner president fong and commissioner vice president richards director rahaim. my name is jack i'm with forest city and i'm here with any colleague kelly to give you what is probably a fairly high-level informational overview we

thought as a led in to the environmental review we're excited to be here talking to you about a project that we physiologist are partners of the city that rich outlined from the various agencies on behalf of the community we've been working with for several years we're all passionate about an honor to be working on many this really distinct place and frankly on the west coast in the homestretch of the approval for the draft eir will be released brother christmas and as such we thought it was important to come to you to give you the context the background and the process beef cabin through and a little bit find flavor of the project

so as it often the case with projects like this this is been a lengthy public planning process with extensive community components to give you a sense of that timeframes it's been coming up on 10 years here that was initiated by the port in 2007 they did a 3 year planning process to create a master plan for all of the pier 70 one of the foundational pieces envisioning with the waterfront we're here to talk about really was the place in all of pier 70 which was appropriate for urban in fill much of the site is asphalt or concrete parking lot forest city was selected in 2011 with the urban mixed use

district and place making for the 4 years subsequent to that we spent working with the city agencies with the port and the community creating essentially a fraction plan uses and program and actually concept plan and balancing policy benefits that was recognized in a term sheet that was endorsed by the port commission and i'll talk about the ballot measure that came subsequent to that for the last two years ago we've been in the phase of a process we're creating the technical studies and the technical documents that will guide the actual implementation of the project so the eirs obviously on essential piece the guidelines and the transportation plan and all the transaction documents with the port who is actually, the landowner we thought that will be fun to give a sense of 10

years because we forgot how long and cultural makers that help remind us so i assume folks that have an iphone the first one in 2007 we were in the process for the obama presidency into the subsequent presidency i'll not talk about along the way we've veil tried to use going both traditionally and non-traditional ways to reach out to the community to stakeholders to interested parties not just what we might consider the traditional planning processes that could be here or through the advisory committee one of the ways we've done that and some of you may have been to the events at the site starting in night life

working with the port there became a space we call building 12 we've been having event on a regular basis it was a way to open the site to the community that had not been assessable for decades it was a way to begin to activate the space and ideally cultivate users and partners and event that populate the events every year we've seen the food he will festival last summer 65 thousand people showed up this to us is the beginning of the future waterfront parks as i mentioned a way to get input from folks that don't necessarily participate in the traditional process we've been able to get a diverse spectrum

of input for folks that come down to go to the street footed festival or a halloween family day and we throughout our materials and were able to get folks to engage and understand the future opportunities and i think tsf folks are overwhelmingly excited about the potential here that was reflected we are not to the ballot in november of 2014 it really did two things it allowed it didn't change the high limit by r but allowed did height in the limit on the site of 40 feet to 90 feet when paired with approval of a development project that included public policy benefits, community benefits that we will talk about it was overwhelmingly supported one and 50 san franciscans and it was we think

reflective of consistent themes we've heard from the very beginning of the process i think from the ports beginning the process in 2007 which is pier 70 really sits at the unique place in san francisco and has within its dna something that includes the industrial history of the site and an opportunity to return the site to a historic activity level and celebrate the rich fabric of industrial historic structures that make this place unique it also sits adjacent to the dog patch neighborhood which has its own sensibility and character and an opportunity to bring that in not necessarily replicating the building that exists in dog patch but the funkyness the mix of the arts and the manufacturing the design and

artship and lastly you know another important piece of dna of the site this waterfront context and for the folks in the neighborhood feel attached to their waterfront they haven't had access for one hundred years a great opportunity to create a local oriented waterfront we'll talk about so workplace understanding the process we've been through come the high-level drivers of how we think about the place and the ferry building we've gotten from all the strrtdz and partners i'd like to i'm going to turn it over to my colleague kelly that will talk about the concept plan and i'll come back later and talk about the community benefits >> thank you jack

all right. i'm here to walk you through the site plans for pier 70 i want to start the entire i did have pier 7059 acres owned by the port of san francisco we're focusing on a little bit less than half at the bottom of the screen 28 acres in size other activities at pier 70 you might be familiar with the port is beginning construction on crane cove park at the north end and ship repair continues their activities at pier 70 to sign a new lease news 2017 this is the continuously operating port to continue that activity over the long term so i'll walk you through the site plan the first is the historic buildings that are there building 2, 12 and 21 will be rehabbed for the skeet standards this rendering here is really a

special moment on the site standing in between building 3 and 12 an 8 foot separation pier 70 buildings were put in locates they make sense for the workflow not necessarily that make sense but creates a special moments of surprise a pedestrian pathway opening on the parks then, of course, you have a shoreline this is a rendering the shoreline park that includes the extension of bay trail done 20th street south along the site temporarily exiting the site on 22 street but the future development of the neighbor to the site will be constructed such it can be connected and continue along the shoreline moving south. >> in addition to the generous

waterfront park we've pulled the park to the middle of the site connecting to the historic buildings 2, 12 and 21 the nature of this it park is in some ways a call back to the former slip ways that existed at the site that were long linear where the ships were repaired and pushed into the bay keeping that long linear and making sure they're connected to the waterfront is key to the plan we bring 20th and 22 street that are existing streets at the dog patch continuing through the site and to the waterfront this rendering here on 22 street to the left on the render building 12 an existing building at the site it was featured in quite a few of the of the photos

that are held events next building 15 it happens that 22 street it perfectly aligned underbuilding 15 one of the current plans to retain the structure and have the roadway run underneath building 16. >> the next move to add the creative core ever ground floor uses surrounding the open space not just retail but also arts and culture uses and pdr and manufacturers above that ground floor you'll have the residential uses surrounding the sites creating active open space connecting the sites to dog patch there's the prevention of the issuing hill if you've driven down illinois we had our civil engineering team look at 7

percent of the historic area but it remains and will continue to remain as part of project next to issuing hill an open sparish children's. >> to the sometimes twenty-four hour a day activity that is happening at the ship repair site this is a buffer and similarly on the south of the site given the u.n. certainty about what will happen with the former power plant we have the mixed use zoning with the residential uses will be allowed the thinking from the power plant remains as is office will be the better use but in the

plans develop remain is a better fit so allowing to flexibility to make that decision later on down the road we'll have more information finally something i want to point out on the ground floor the creative core surrounded the park no roadway separating overseeing from the park they open to the open space and that's a really special move we think will have great activating potential to make the open space more enjoyable across four lanes of traffic it opens on the base this ridership is marilyn street the it is designed as a shared street pedestrian priority you'll see building 12 on the left of the rendering that opens into marilyn and also marilyn street to potentially be closed for events on a daily not daily

but single day at that time, and back at the site each of the parcels are identified want to talk about height while proposition authors a 90 feet height limit across the site we have had - starting on the western edge the illinois parcels those parcels were already relevant at the 65 feet and proposing to leave that in keeping with the neighborhood context at the center of the site ranging from 4 feet to 70 feet of surrounding the parks and then again on the northern and southern edge of the site taller building up to 90 feet acting as the buffer protecting the ships to the north and the uncertainty of power plants to the south other renderings of the waterfront you'll see building 6

the ship repair in the distance and the open space with the slipway structures there that jet into the bay and preserved as part of open space. >> so talk about the overall program starting with the waterfront the 28 acres because as i mentioned earlier that mixed use zoning there are approximately, one thousand 1 hundred residential unit and commercial office and around nine hundred square feet that could be either commercial office or approximately, one thousand residential uses unit and 4 hundred and 50 thousand square feet of retail arts and light industrial uses similarly at the illinois parcels 5 hundred plus residential units and

approximately 40 thousand square feet of light industrial that are so this is another chart for the maximum residential scenario and a maximum commercial scenario their analyzed in the environmental impact report and we focused on the 28 acres but important to look at it in the context of the entire area approximately 25 foot fence of the entirety of pier 70 that is new construction as part of proposed construction and another 75 used for parks and open space and streetscape and historic buildings. >> this is in keeping with the ports preferred master plan that jack mentioned endorsed in not to exceed that contemplated the portion of the site up to 90 feet. >> with that, i'd like to a

pass it to jack. >> so wrapping up we're very cognizant of the fact in addition to creating a great physical place at pier 70 something that is pedestrian oriented active on the ground floor, well-designed, vibrant, it is also really important - to have a robust community benefits program we're very aware that this is something that is san francisco uses projects last week this to deliver the public benefits in a prop 13 world is hard to maintain and create new amenities so just a quick summon of those things the historic rehab that is a $75 million line

item entirely new extra, the infrastructure it is out at the site is not useable with streets and utilities and parks that's an offered $200 million that includes departure management for the sea level rise literally listing the grade and providing a funding stream available for dog patch management improvements in the future and 9 acres of the parks system that is will - increase the amount of parks in dog patch by 3 hundred percent and thirty percent of all the unit at the below-market rate and transportation is something that is important in the city we have an extremely robust program all the way from how the site is designed literally tight and dense pedestrian oriented

adjacent to the t line and the central subway augmenting the trail and having a bicycle robust bicycle network of pathways as well as a bike share pod on the site we also will have a dedicated and funded transportation to demand management program with an onsite coordinator working with visits and others to maximize the use of public transit there will be a shutter program that will be a stand alone paired with what is done at mission bay and others similar systems and annual monitoring in short the project will mitigate its own impacts and in addition it will also generate in the magnitude

of 45 to $50 million of impact fees we have voluntarily taken on the t s f we can be grandfathered to tdif it is president obama to pay the rates of new tsif a robust conversation how those funds get used and where and something we've not dwelled on that is important in the land use program there are used and buildings that we think make san francisco neighborhoods great not just commercial office or residentials having that mix of pdr and arts and local retail so we have building 12 the concept

the makers market hall literally imagine you're in a europe hall but seeing people making things behind they're making and selling there if you know examples locally that will be we will create a mix of small to large users dandelion chocolate in the mission and ceramics places they're making the good ideas at the space with a small retail frontage that is an exciting opportunity to support the city's desire to retain the pdr uses with the jobs that are created and take this beautiful building into a vibrant place in addition a building on the prime site on the waterfront that is up to 90 thousand square feet that will be for arts and

cultural used for replacement studio space for 5 to 20 thousand square feet of space that exists today call do noon building didn't make sense to remain but a thirty to 40 year history of arts in the building we'll replace that space and augment it with arts and cultural users it is a ones in a lifetime opportunity on the waterfront and responsibility jobs program we'll probably urban design the first project that every project from the infrastructure to the vertical building not just the best efforts but penalties to hiring locally lastly one thing that we're doing definitely than that what you will have seen for other masters development projects we're actually expediting the

first phase we're doing the design for the phase one of the infrastructure at risk because we firmly believe that we want to try to capture this good economy and a way to deliver the public benefits the affordable housing, the parks, the infrastructure, 12 to 18 most earlier than typical an opportunity to do that to have the first affordable housing buildings actually create units that will support the putting the cart before the horse rebuild at potrero terrace for people to temporarily relocation to so - >> didn't want to miss we're leon into forest city into this project something we're really commented committed to and excited about this what we hope the homestretch of the process

the draft eir will be published in december so we will be back before you before a hearing for that and we have not gotten into what could be tremendous detail detail on transportation and guidelines and the treatment of the historic resources we know that those are really important things we've spent a lot of time with our design team working really well with staff and the planning department like dan and rich and josh we're excited to actually talk about to you about those things we knew this initiative presentation was probably not the place to do that we welcome that opportunity to swp with that, and exceeded our time we will i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> great, thank you. >> any other presentations from the staff report - okay

opening it up for public comment then. >> any speaker cards? none okay tom >> tom gilberty looks like a wonderful plan, which is unusual for people to say i'm curious about the climatic change we're at work expecting a 9 foot surgery in the bay if you have anything more about that. >> okay is there any additional public comment? >> just because all those people are here. >> we lose muni issues a lot

because they're put off and we don't understand it joint tenant in common wants to deal with 16th street and a muni issue but if potrero hill people are here and dog patch people were here today they'll be pleading with everyone on the side of the development team the city and developer as well as you to pay attention to how east west circulation to the muni works because all those things that are predicated on north-south street depends on the muni circulation that is not the case really a lot those days and there are people that live to the west on potrero hill and a large drop as you go up the hill and the

muni system did not develop for that level of circulation and it was - it is and was one of the favored of the eastern neighborhoods plan that pushed off those issues of circulation on muni and so it is a planning department that has to pay attention to it because muni hadn't had a planning commissioner since - they've had known on the planning commission they used to have a seat now no contact at all so you all have to because psyching wheel you've got to squeak to those people that is important that people and the city that you can use muni to get to here and not just people

who live where the number third street line takes you the 16th street everyone wants to go away from it is a big can of worms the other thing i need to realize people in the city context includes the ucsf and ucsf doesn't do well, they rely on their own private bus system that is not available to the public thank you. >> is there any additional public comment? >> okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> i'll start off quickly that i've been excited to see this come to us i've had the personal pleasure of watching pier 70 grow from the port commission 8 years ago maybe so i'm starting to see it in color putting all your eggs in one basket to see it take shape

to bring up issues as ms. hester said here we are with the growth of san francisco going south that would be great and following the eddy ordinance a great entry point to what you're doing for anyone i don't know if you can get out there this is a beautiful are area like a movie set like so i'm happy to hear this informational item and legislative aide to more as we go forward. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you. i'm excited about this project as well and looking forward to seeing all the future hearings and more details about the project you you know they're out there and often have open studios and artists that work in the buildings and traffic right now and looking forward to it being a place where people live and work and play that is exciting. >> a couple of things with the design of the development and

the plan amendments and a lot of different things i'll bring up a few higher level items i think are for more of a comment i'm excited to hear a plan for some temporary housing for residents from the potrero hill we're happy to see those next week 9 development agreement a major question many people having had i've mentioned in relation to the eir like up 9 hill and having to be demolished this is part of the solution in terms of this project itself just a couple of things i noticed in the program overview it sounds like a couple of options one that is more commercial and another one 3 is less commercial and i have the first one regardless the option the

development attempt choose incumbent on the city to make sure the planning department and planning commission make sure we have putting the project in context with the rest of what is happening along the southern bayview we're making the decisions independently of each other of the mix of commercial versus housing and is open space and other uses but unlike maybe schlage or other masters plan developments those are really all in one line central soma is right to mission bay and mission rock and street down third street and hunters point and candle stick if more development there i think we have to make those decisions in context with each other and make sure we're matching up the numbers where they need to be matched sth with that said just a quick question on the illinois parcels

for the jack or you have in our bar chart 5 housing unit and 4 residential units but in your table you - you maximum residential and still have some commercial if there can you talk a little bit about especially for the illinois parcels the difference between the two and generally into our decision making scenarios. >> thank you, kelly good eye yes some amount of commercials that can be allowed on the illinois parcels even if their to be built entirely and residential residentials there is still some commercial office and a good point i was remiss to

talking about those maximum commercial is that in all likelihood the projects will land in between so the time some of the parcels that are zoned and mixed use with the residential and some would go commercial those are essentially buy outs and looking forward to seeing that variance in the eir transportation first, this sounds like an excellent time to call for a joint hearing were our friends at the mta before any previous comments and the mix of residential and commercial space more holistically i think the same thing for transportation i was very close to a lot of the work in the decision maker

around the transportation for hunters point and candle stick in addition to the t line and some of the transit options including the private shutters and the changes around the mission bay is also a brt it is coming up from hunters point and candle stick and up third street still planned to go straight downtown there have been discussions whether other stops or what have i think my main comment i'll be looking closely and eir for the future plans about traffic and the transportation planning for this area because i do feel like there say you guys have done a great job our thinking about the middle-aged neighborhood beyond pier 70 but more coordination and collaboration you think and laying out the plans do you guys need a pier 70 shuttle or

mission bay shuttle can we argue for another blrtd from candle stick and hunters point do we need in the future future planning look at the subway master plan it is supposed to come to the planning commission to the some point and make sure that pier 70 is well recommended in those plans i think those are all very, very important issues some of which may show up in the eir that's why i'll bringing it up today and then effectually we have one planning confirmation that was on mta one connection there but definitely think there is room for future conversation. >> commissioner moore. >> it is wonderful to see this man farmed isle i take it been talked about for many, many years a decade i think or long i'm most excited the city is maturing around mission bay and

dog patch having it's on castro developing a strong voice and coming together at the right time and different from other cities do leap frog this is a great does the city is maturing slowly and creating more context for existing context that is existing this makes a thorough project i'm totally amazed how the port was not jumping to the opportunity earlier but letting it happen when it did and developing the clean park first is amazing because they'll not be a hole but open space so i'm very, very excited about the maturing on all levels and convinced that even for the eir and the rigorous examination having a strong foundations to

become was it needs to become with some such strong commitment as the signature of that you're on the right track congratulations. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> just echo all the other commissioners comments i don't want to belabor them i like the project a lot the public benefits pla look great i have concerns about the transportation maybe someone from affirmative can come up and tell me about the mitigation of the transportation the tdm does it mitigate what is inside the development but not outside like people coming inside the development they have jobs give us an explanation of our understanding of that, please. >> absolutely so what through both the eir analysis and just our transportation planning what the

suit of both mitigations and infrastructure that is actually being built for the site is to mitigate the impacts of the project in its entirety so whether someone that is going out or visitors or people that work there. >> that's great. >> a couple of other things if we provide office space we'll have a mixed development are you taking into account people - we see all those plans piece piece piece but not a full understanding we're adding to the housing deficit or actually getting ahead of it with projects like yours. >> one of the reasons we've got to plan it has that mix of housing and office there's been an have you had occasion over the arc of the planning in the posters master plan that was

envisioned for the reuse of the site something that came out of the process with the stakeholder and the communities what means to have a mix of residential and office obviously we can't tell folks they need to work with in the office space but a responsibility growth in housing in the surrounding neighborhood through the eastern neighborhoods plan. >> i think the project will be project is an a plus if you offer as much housing onsite not that the every week's have to live there but add to the housing shortage with that many jobs anticipated will be an a plus i've never heard of a project offering amenities in advance so congratulations. >> commissioner hillis. >> yes. he echo the comments we've heard congratulations to

the port in forest city that's its been a long time coming in the works but it will be interesting to see the design guidelines one of the interesting things about pier 70 and going to the site now and hopefully it can be retain some of the character to kind of eclectic the lack of planning that is happened throughout the development of the pier 70 that made it interesting and you know there are second story necks next to smaller buildings that will be interesting in the newer portions to try to remain it didn't have to be the classic graphic system could be dead-ends everything didn't have to be the same height the architect could be more eclectic not the industrial feel you often get to tie in newer projects vanity to the industrial buildings but

interesting to see how that unfolds and hopefully can retain what makes the site special one question that building of a go building you've never see get built not part of anyone else's project i know that is a tough one to probably reuse what happens to that building. >> brad benson from port staff it is north of the project site on 20th street light half on land you know amazing warehouse building that needs a lot of investment the port staff david and byron and the planning team are looking at that site and the adjacent vacant site likely to be part of a future phase of pier 70. >> okay.

>> i hope not too much in the future it can't withstand much time but an interesting building and great site thank you for the presentation. >> commissioner koppel. >> i'm exist to see the project i've followed it through the chaeblz going through the height on the water issues and whatnot refreshing to see it in front of us looking at a map of the city here and i think this development will fit in well between 16th street and chavez but on the third besides illinois what else will happen on the corner of third street that is nice to see it materialize i want to congratulate the porn on the community benefits package and above and beyond a good phase

effort on local hire studying that more so with a possible penalty that has not been done before what is interesting to realize there is a lot of local businesses in the corridor whether their contractors or wholesale material suppliers that will get a lot of benefits from this project drainage too so i hope everyone notices that note just putting san francisco residents building the projects but also supporting loca businesses there historically located on that side of town i want to make sure 9 public know that also. >> commissioner melgar. >> thank you so i also love the presentation and the project it is exciting i think of what our future is as a city so i had like other commissioners had a worry about the public transportation and then just thinking about this

along with mission rock we are adding a lot of residential and commercial so along with transportation i wish services so thirty percent of units will be affordable and 40 percent mission rock and you know there are a lot of ground floor commercial but things like childcare and medical services you know so if we're going to think about the neighborhood of tomorrow where people are not have cars and useless public transportation one of the things that make it live able to have those kind of things close but i was wondering you guys have thought and the moments like the 8 foot pedestrian walkway but the e-mail have any of the commercial space envisioned to be used for those kinds of services specifically have you thought about that. >> that's a great question and

the childcare i think we're actually envisioning there will be childcare space in the project got its own requirement for outside space and the title restrictions we think it would be adjacent to the children's playground area you've heard kelly reference as to sort of neighborhood services the ground floor of the office and the residential will be designed so it can accommodate those kinds of uses i noticed in one of the residential buildings on van ness and mission there is a medical office that is opened so very much is part of a mix we're envisioning that makes for a complete we're not a neighborhood but district that is adjacent to the existing neighborhood and also you you

know worth mentioning not everybody uses ucsf but glad to be near the challenges medical hospital and those yours is a really good point and we are not far enough along but programming uses into buildings but important for us to be cognizant the way we're designing the ground floor it is able to accommodate the range of uses. >> director rahaim. >> appreciate the feedback here a couple of things we should have follow-up discussions one is the as you recall we presented the new 5 year work plan one of the element the southeast strategy which is trying to address this issue i think you've raised and others raised about making sure the projects in this area we'll

probably see 17 percent of the city's growth a rational connection and synergy in that part of town as that is developed in the middle of next year we'll do an informational and a number of projects programmed many of which are funded the muni loop that will turn out with the 16th street brt as well as the brt that was mentions by the commissioner johnson that will serve the shipyard that connects to the l r t and two - the light rail along third street in two location perhaps we'll give a similar diaphragm about the transportation systems that are programmed and have future conversation and important to remind everyone about the investment and where 9 gaps might be i got as well and commissioner moore.

>> i believe we want to recall forest city for the land use development along illinois and third street and at 19 this dimension supported the changes to a building as the development almost a year ago which was hard but not all complimentary to the future ideas of our development at the gateway another project is land side on illinois between 18 and 19 both aggressive yet ultimately more adjusting to the public component of people walking on both sides of the street and also complimenting our ideas about vicinity of water through the factor, etc. that's a lot of work and anticipation of what you'll be doing the beautiful that all the pieces speak to the larger ideas

of not just dropping development down but really developing the city as director rahaim says through the southeast strategy we've all been working into that direction and now knowing what you're doing and with more detail burglary will be easier continue to strongly support all projects that go into that art. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you i didn't hear the commissions ask about the resiliency plan we'll see it in futurist rationed but important ideas what we see particularly in the southeast like third street and things like that so just wondering can you give a quick update on the option you've considered for promoting the resiliency in the project.

>> absolutely so you know john go king did a series i thought was well written when we were talking to him we were saying look we're developers not the ones that should be establish the guidance for how to respond to what might happen in the future we've been following the states guidance when we started assumed 65 inches of sea level rise but 25 hundreds in the last 18 months 44 to 66 inches we went to the top of ranges so essentially all the knows onsite will be raised up elevate the site between 4 and 8 feet depending on where you are to accommodate the sea level rise through 21 hundred 66 inch level at the shoreline sort

of slopes down and as i mentioned one of the things that pier 70 is doing like at treasure island in the shipyard to establish a future funding mechanism so that you know tha best estimates or guidance today, we find that in 2070 been moving quicker a funding stream for additional improvements 3 would look like any number of scenarios raising the frontage of the site doing something in the water that addresses not the level of the still water but what happens during storm events so is that - does that answer your question. >> thank you >> okay. >> thank you. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> one more thing piggyback

this is based the temperature in the next 80 years; right? i was reading this morning commentary what it could be having any thoughts if it increases more than 2 percent celsius since the approximate election but the coming together of the countries >> we're i'll probably honestly say that's a little bit out of my league we have a suit find experts but it is a that's a good question now worries me for my child but it's a question i think we'll all have to look at as it plays auto. >> i thoughts the worse case scenarios was moving forward maybe a worse case scenarios how the out there just a thought.

>> that concludes commissioner questions or comments. >> very good commissioners moving on to item 9 california street conditional use authorization. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm collin planning department staff many allows a change of use for are we taking a break. >> no, just transitioning. >> good to go. >> this would be a conditional use authorization allowing a change of use from an existing 15 hundred square feet limited restaurant to a full restaurant it will be the same business at the ground floor of the existing second story mixed use within the rh1 and one quarter mile of the district to date the

department has two corresponds in opposition to the project and the project sponsor is here today to also provide letters of support the department finds that the necessary and desirable and impartial with the surrounding neighborhood and recommends you approve with conditions for the following one of the project activates continues to activate a ground floor tenant space with a neighborhood use and two with a within a three hundred feet radius the complains is well below and it will not increase the concentration did change of use will not sitting effect the eating and drinking uses within one quarter mile proximity and it allows a independently owning

and operating business to better meet the needs of neighborhood and provide opportunities to local residents it complies with the planning code and is consistent with the general plan this that concludes my presentation. and i'm available to answer any questions thanks. >> project sponsor please. >> hello commissioners i'm the owner and operator we're just basically the the handwriting is on the wall that's the limited use the front is retail so we're taking that into the future that's why we need this to go for a restaurant we'll be looking to the neighborhood for hiring and as far as i know the restaurant will be limited keeping it short and simple.

>> if that's your presentation we'll open up for public comment. >> pretty much the same it is just amplifying the restaurant area that's all. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> opening up for public comment on this item. >> okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> i'll start but this is possibly the cutest the tea shop in san francisco. (laughter) it is really cute and i hope to expand food and beverage it is great >> commissioner vice president richards. >> move to approve second. >> on that motion to approve with conditions. >> commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and places us on item 10

for case ocean avenue conditional use authorization. >> good afternoon, commissioners department staff the item before you is a request for the conditional use authorization to allow a use greater than 2 thousand plus square feet an ocean avenue near ocean and 19th street it is located within the cluster and a height district the project will compel the medical services establishment with explicitly medical providers into one large medical use the existing square footage will remain unchanged that is operating at first story, second story and third story since 1963 it not a change of use they're committed on the first floor and second floor and

third floor and considered existing non-conforming today, the commission is passed its the review and the the subject property is developed with a mixed use building the ground floor is you do understand by medical uses and an slogan while the second story and third story are occupied by medical uses the project includes an entrepreneurial alteration and signage the project will continue to operate providing outpatient care mr. and mrs. mr. and mrs. please not - the existing facility offers primary care and the new facility will provide additional services including laboratory - while the number of exam rooms that be

consistent but this is resulting in a more openwork stations and combined reception areas the number of staff and decreases radio consistent from the - the project sponsor has been pro-active in reaching out to the tenant in the building within the last two months to talk about relocation option the project sponsor has agreed to give the practices ample time to relocate and moving to another location in san francisco when the renovations begin since distribution the project sponsor has continued the outreach to the existing tenants to date the department has 3 communications in opposition to the proposal from community member and existing medical providers the primary concerns related to theville medical

providers the department recommended approval with conditions and necessary and desirable for the following reasons the proposed project is consistent with the stayed purpose of cluster district and the use will remain a compatible use for the surrounding neighborhoods the proposed project will increase the access to primary care to residents of the neighborhood as well as citywide and balanced the project meets all applicable requirements that concludes my presentation. i'm available for questions thank you. >> thank you. >> project sponsor please. >> good afternoon, commissioners jody on behalf of the project sponsor thanks for the staff for the comprehensive presentation the request is straightforward for the use of size over 3 thousand square feet or greater so i'm going to go over what staff said but a few issues one of the problems that use of the space is extremely

limiting the best use of sites is one medical provider that provides specialized care and general care and display and mammograms with the trend in modern medical care for people to center one single place is more efficient in terms of medical services insurance companies want it and the patients want that the nature of the beast beyond a large medical providers a single practice where a few of those fits within a 3 thousand square feet limitations this building is always lusz e used by medical practices because of the trespassed in care without limitation it doesn't allow us to use it as a modern medical building one of the main things of the team wants to do in implementing

to renovate, upgrade the building some significant work and ada and life safety issues a number of issues part of project will be gutting the building upgrading that and this is an area with commercial vacancies so would this of the things the team is excited about getting a user will will bring new life to the area and additional customers for the local cafe and increase the vibrancy of the area and the attractiveness of the building needs a facelift and needs some interior work i know there is some concerns impressed about displacement of doctors our decision does not to impact the lease if you have a lease we'll have to deal with you and have been spent 9 last several months don't extensive outreach and worked with practices groups and done tours

that have a rehab facility online with office space and doing everything we can to help them figure out a way to move and continue to do that so we feel this is a great project will benefit the area and the project team is here to answer in any questions thank you. >> thank you. >> okay opening up for public comme comment. >> i'm a physician an opposition - this is not

appropriated - since february of this year i've attempted to communicate with bentwood capital management inc. to exercise this opposite i've written and delivered a certified letter to the effect and made phone calls and facing meetings with representatives to no avail their instant demand i leave the building they need my space to - they can't precede without me moving out now i'm an opposition - i'll

have to close any practice of 31 years in the community about half of my work is delivering babies and being the only doctor for miles around that is a loss in the community they'll have to people will have to travel much longer distances and this is does not serve the community well my office our practice services students at sfmade at city college of san francisco, and that will be terminated patients that traffic across

town about for go care that is needed that will not be to the benefit of community and finally i'd like to speak to the fact that i am i've goon up in this neighborhood i've lived if more the past 35 years and if this you conditional use is authorized we've heard and told that a single monolithic foundation hoa will move into the building that effectively to eliminate private practicing practice now. >> thank you, sir, your time is up. >> the commissioners may have further questions. >> is there any additional public comment? >> hi i'm a patient of doctor david's

and he's on vacation asked me to come down and drive around the neighborhood i live in the neighborhood and been my doctor over 20 years i saw places for rents no practices for rent for doctors they need parking and an elevator i'm 69 years old and not into walking blocks. >> i used to be chiropractor and doctors don't care whatever code they bill you that's not a big deal and a lab across the street so the lab is not a big deal either hopefully, you guys

will paragraph this there is a lot of elderly patients in the neighborhood this will be a big loss to them a big loss i'm one of them okay. no spaces for rent thank >> thank you. >> is there any additional public comment? >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm doctor oak been in practice in this part of city for more than 40 years i'm currently a tenant at the building in question we have a small office me, my brother and doctor david chiu we serve patient from all over san francisco but most of are the lakeside a lot of elderly my old is one and 4 and 12k5ib9d patients, students, and i'm totally opposed to this project

obviously we will be kicked out of the building we won't have a place to practice and not much available space in the area that is ready to be used i'm requesting this project be turned do you think there's not a need to consolidate and kick all the doctors and dentist out of this building and make one big wal-mart clinic thank you. >> thank you. >> additional speakers public comment? >> hi, i'm doctor david chiu a tenant in the that believe i've been in the building approximately 10 years now and it will be a disservice to kick

out the small businesses they're the backbone of the community people look to us i can go to the farmer's market and live near he cross the street people recognize me a disservice to kick us out and give to corporations you'll be disturbing the families and they really don't think us it is - a lot of people have 5 year leases and they'll try to break all the contracts my neighbor she's a dentist couldn't be here but although for me to move that is difficult but her, she has to much equipment a couple of hundred of

thoufrz and to break us up that is a great unjust to us all that's all i have to say. thank you for your time. >> okay. any other speakers. >> last call for public comment okay public comment is closed. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i guess a question for the project sponsor two part time doctors are in the building how much of a percentage of the square footage of the building is that. >> i think 70 percent of the building i'll get more specific numbers. >> it is in flux a number of practices people are retiring and people on the way out.

>> so i don't know the medical office building there is one demand for an office building one public speaker said no office space they can find with the thirty percent vacancy rate are you findings a demand for this space. >> not that's one of the concerns if we don't get this approval that is an out dated medical care we don't know who will be eventually in the building a lot of those practices people are retiring and moving out the concern we're not rehab the building and rent out the building and the stones medical center a few blocks away was recently rehabbed and the tenants have been - the doctors

more parking a nicer building and rehabbed and also smaller areas we bid a market study within san francisco about 70 thousand square feet of medical uses we understand that people want to stay in the neighborhood we know that is a possibility. >> we have those issues every week whether in their residents or tenants pdr businesses that are actively you know getting kicked out and this is the first time we have small businesses in the form of the medical field that we'll be doing that - my thought is i understand the business model maybe chaveng my doctor is in a small office in the bay area medical building in san mateo it is full you know, i thought we have a gun to our head necessary and desirable compatible with a 70

percent occupancy rate it is stretches any imagine that is necessary unless the buildings will be coming off the footing any doctor's office building was rehabbed one office at that time, they were vacancies i think it a maid the building more attractive has business model been endorsed making them attractive and seeing tenants move on it is a little bit hard to understand why we'll be putting 70 percent of our occupancy into the open market. >> yeah. i mean in terms of what is there a number processes speakers are requested but not required to state their name and fill out a speaker card, it will insure proper are on their way out the practitioners are retiring so the problem one of the problems is the use size is so small even a lot of smaller practices couldn't move in terms of the market if i can say one thing the to achiever having the use

size for the building allows us to explore the yourself and have 100 percent occupancy then there's flexibility 3 thousand square feet is hamstring to really having any new providers the predators we understand has been there a long time the building is run down but having any reasonably sized practice even areas there is the whole building is not used there is quite sizeable practices 3838 california our use is like that. >> it is interesting to me that we'll be undergo all this to explore the market to get a tenant it faster consolidates

the consolidating market in my opinion still a need for what the model you have i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say but having a hard time getting over the necessary and desirable. >> commissioner moore. >> it is kind of interesting to listen to the last exchange commissioner vice president richards because there is a reality side i believe that what i hear the doctors represent themselves more the human size of the medical practices myself $0.55 doctors in similar buildings from the visits in san mateo i visit where buildings are brought up to code and being more attractive bought brought up to code one building at a time for the - to improve from the inside without disturbing

the patients including the adjoining practices of people that help each other know each other and give each other business from the dentist to the organized do not have to whatever - don't see how the real estate side is north beach library for the first day in medical requires us to look at the human side of things i hear very clearly what practitioners have been in their practice for 40 years mean to the people who they service and that is for me a strong land use denominator to a higher level of security in any you kicked off well in our discussion including the testimony in the staff report is harder to describe but

when you hear it in person by the practitioners that are effected i'll agree with our assessment and not supportive of this move at this time. >> i have to share the same internal conflict i heard about the conversation lake but a viable tenant that has a lease he find it obscure the way that is approached to see if there is a potential another tenants or thing in place if that's the intent let all the leases entire and remodel the scoots u suits as needed i want to call this gentleman. >> please speak into the microphone. >> yeah. >> building is 84 percent

leased he want to correct that it is a little bit higher and like i said, i was a chiropractor and a friend in arrests i go to that building to see for leasing for him, i got the runaround last year for a lease maybe go to stones town we're going not sure what we're going to do they didn't want to lease that put it that way. >> this is a little street in san francisco we're actively closed public comment but if you stand by maybe other commissioners will have a question for i agree that is an international part of families and misrepresent generation families to go to the bakery across the street to see your doctor at the same time is part

of a life fewer car trips and do two or three things on that street it is typical. >> commissioner hillis. >> just a question for the project sponsor so, i mean i think some of the issues we're having you have a building you're asking for a cu to occupy the entire building for one user but i don't necessarily have a yourself in mind you're having - you wanting to have that and occupy that entire space. >> that's identified as the market there's a market out there for this space we've not be able to come to an agreement we don't have an approval that's the nature of medical care the new vision center online, there are large providers know sutter

that are taking overlarge spaces we are anticipating that but can't sign the lease with the providers until an approval. >> we often see a user coming to apply for the cu not as being done before to me it is somewhat of a land use issue i mean the land use allows one user to occupy rather than smaller users i don't know if i have a huge problem with that that's kind of a how medical services are provided not necessarily a land use issue you've got tenants in there that sounds like they have options in lease you have to deal with you know i'll recommend you come with the user if you're able to get a vacant

building that is user fitting half the building because some of the tenants calibers their options maybe not all the building that's where we have questions on this from my land use perspective i don't want to get into business my doctors and kids doctors are in larger spaces maybe not 40 thousand square feet but 10 thousand square feet i don't know what the right size is for provision of medical services and it seems like medical services is an appropriate use in the building whether it is one tenants or multiple tenants maybe you figure that out out before you come here the best path forward. >> can i address one issue just to clarify we're not looking to eliminate the leases are separate frankly, we're surprised by the opposition

because there is an extensive outreach and worked with people on some free rents and giving them time and moving them to a nicer facility obviously that happens sometimes but there is such extensive outreach we're not trying to eliminate we don't have the right to do that and you guys don't but here's a building great provides better services mammograms and x rays and lab services and have a place that has more spacing and so no one is out of business so just to clarify on the lease rights not looking to eliminate anyone we can't. >> i guess i'd like clarify that before to see i don't know if you came here with a vacant building you've been able to negotiate those agreements with

the tenants i think that is a similar land use i don't have any problem but there is questions in the air how they're treated and your asking you to approve for the entire building yet you have leases in portions of the building. >> so, i mean that's the question that remains. >> commissioner melgar. >> thank you you know just to echo commissioner vice president richards comments i think outside the box i don't want to get into making a business decision because you know it's not appropriate i'm having trouble with the necessary and desirable i can see how it is desirable for you but not necessary this is my neighborhood i know that on ocean avenue on the other side of juniper a bunch of single

medical providers doctors, dentists and all sorts of that business model is so still in that neighborhood i mean, that's what there is people come there for that so aside street business decision i don't see how it is necessary in terms of the approving a cu you know for a - like i said, it would be totally different if you were coming without existing tenants that needed you know physical space in a certain way in order to make it happen i feel you want to have your cake and eat it don't and getting ahead of the fact. >> commissioner johnson. >> okay. thanks. >> yeah. i restate the agreement circa you sit down you're making me nervous i think i'lly state the agreement what is necessary and

desirable i think about how it can - prompting mcd ownership go among other items particularly in their industry element when i been that juxtapose with that property not falling down that is highly reached out mesosquare footage is leased to separate doctors with their own practices i don't see that it is necessary and desirable - with a single use i think that is why i agree with fellow commissioners but wanted to enter the conversation to shift the argument i think i would have come to the same

conclude if not the same comment that is situated me, you have a leased outbuilding and entrepreneurs in there and recently other medical uses that are united health care workers more space come from the planning commission 1 on ocean avenue we approved a month ago so alls things helped me to formulate the necessary and desirable at this point, i don't see that, however, to put a point on what commissioner hillis said if there were a tenant that had a market plan that fit sort of will seems likelessly in that area i think we'll have to consider that also within the general plan and sort of what we think it necessary and desirable for the neighborhood but right now, we're proposing there are entreprenu7ers and doctors with their private practice and the

buildings are not falling down in a corridor against a non-plan at this point that's why i can't support it at this time i think there is a couple other commissioners that want to speak but look at what type of decision typically not clients to be totally disinclined you might work harder to come back with a plan within 12 months i don't want to foreclosure that opportunity but not prepared to support it today. >> commissioner koppel. >> i know the neighborhood went to high school down the street this part of neighborhood is you don't stumble on this block of ocean avenue i had a question for the first physician i wanted to speak to one of you i'll take you (laughter) how much space do you or the

average physician here need for our space. >> well i mean in a unique situation in that my daughter joined any practice recently we're expanding services that area really needs a obstetrics/gynecology it services did western twin peaks we're currently working out of 6 hundred and 50 square feet but we would like more like maybe 8 and in fact, we were offered that to move down to another level and they tore down the walls and reneged open that oh, they contact and wanted me to move out of the building for a year not realizing that takes two years for us to obtain all

the necessary credentials with medicare and all the insurance paradises that is impossible to do. >> just to add on to that i see that capital partners has the stones down the road and 10 vacancies there currently; correct? >> there's is a vacant that's where we look to move the i providers the stones town was rehabbed and nicer really nicer space right nearby. >> okay. >> commissioner christensen. >> i guess i come back and it is refreshing to have commissioner johnson always tloo look through another lens gives me more positions we sat down last week with an issue with the change in market retail we have all the reports from a law firm that was

convincing we came up with hey things are changing we'll not do anything about it in terms of 6 no, we didn't say yes, but on this one i understand commissioner johnson wanted not wanting to penalize anyone i get it you folks have leases that last beyond a year that is an instance we're save safe - i've walked into any doctors building a new hallway i asked him he said they're doing a one by one by one by one to urban design the building with 1960 with deferred maintenance to your point the market is already occupying a space so if there were were a couple of straggles

i would make a motion to disapprove. >> second. >> the building it working but to the staff they wanted the top floor or 5 thousand square feet to occupy would that - would this in a gate their ability to do this in the future. >> yes. the use is 2000 plus

that comes back to the commission for a conditional use. >> if we deny this cu can we come back in less than a year with 35 hundred if there is a practitioner that wants this can they come back. >> they'll have to come back in one year if a motion with intent to disapprove. >> with any cu or the entire building you don't want to preclude a 4 thousand square feet tenant that wants to work on the two stories the tenants can stay. >> if not substantially essential they can do it within a year. >> that's not similar this is a 28 square feet plus - >> deputy city attorney kate

stacy the zoning administrator didn't make the interpretations under the planning code what application is similar it it seems from going from a 28 thousand to 5 thousand square feet request is different but again up to the zoning administrator to make that determination. >> uh-huh. that's my concern that my doctors office is a neighborhood serving type of office probably more than 3 thousand square feet we perspective that to do that to fill the building. >> i can check to see if it are there is any precedence bans specifically on size. >> you want to talk about and can i make a suggestion we have an important one i know that

some of the concerns from the commission is related to the practitioners showed up today like i said, i was not expecting this we've been ongoing discussions and showing them alternative space if a short continuance from the commission feels that will address. >> i'll deny there is time before that to get results. >> we have to vote on the intent. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> a 5 thousand versus a thirty thousand square feet we're not talking with two or three tenants we're talking about thirty percent vacant which is 9 thousand square feet i mean or 84 percent i mean, i think nobody is here to penalize anyone but disapproval is an

option we use judicially this is one that is warranted we're not precluding anything give the occupancy rate the fact that so much of this says that a leased the disintervention indication. >> there is a motion that has been seconded commissioners night i suggest we continue that matter until december 1st to allow the staff to draft that for disapproval. >> is the maker of the motion amenable to indicate a continuance until december 1st. >> then to disapprove that and continue it out to december 1st commissioner hillis commissioner hillis. >> no commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar

commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes 6 to one with commissioner hillis voting against. >> commissioners that places us on item 11 dehalf hour conditional use authorizati authorization. >> good afternoon commissioner president fong chuck department staff the item before you a conditional use authorization for the proposed project on 1016 deharrow an existing vacant first story single-family dwelling and a rear accessory and the new construction of a 4 story the existing lot is down sloping one feet deep with a sargent of 17 feet a 25 rear yard and the basement level with

an additional setback to the upper level that the project cantonese two class 1 bike parking spaces and 4 on-street parking parking spaces there are 3 letters of the option i'll provide and 2 letters of certain of the massing and the third letter he didn't have a chance to print but that concern was requesting less off-street parking as the 3 massing a 17 foot setback at the top floor and reduce the decks to protect the privacy and removed a non-compliant rear yard structure a matching lightwell and car stacker for off-street parking the department of these is consistent with the intent and character and scale of the neighborhood the neighborhood district and

the department recommendations the commission to approve with conditions that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions should there be any and project sponsor please. >> you can use that mike if you want. >> good afternoon, commissioners thank you for having me, i'm mark a license architect for the state of california and have any office an lbe registered here in san francisco i'm pleased to present this project with you today because the project sponsors are making a fulfilling

their childhood promise to build that with that, the project is for new construction the house is currently unsound i have the status of report here okay. >> the project is in the potrero hill neighborhood just a couple of blocks away from the main potrero center. >> and this photo which maybe is hard to see from the screen the side sits right kind of at the uphill appendix of the hill about 3 townhouse house down from the corner of adjacent street in this slide there is 13 similar projects buildings of the same size that are on the block. >> this is the renderings of

the in any proposed duplex sitting on the site with the adjacent properties next to them on the left and to the right showing the two similar sized properties just two doors down from the project site that's showing the rear rear yard and the rear facade it is shifted to the other buildings also in similar size two doors down to the left and right. >> this slide showing the directly off of residential design guidelines you know the illustration and through it is light on the screen hoping in the packet as you can see it is very, very similar to what was in the guidelines the floor plans showing the

layout of the house and again, the project stems from the two brothers coming together wlo who have grown up in high school and san francisco and a a long time ago promised to build our participants a house that's why you see the elevator used for them now more like latter later the relationship of the existing house and what the new construction to the site on the street we the shadow study yesterday and prepared it for today showing the size thought or the massing of new construction and how it relates to the shadows to the neighborhoods as you can see only because of the sloping hill until 3 o'clock

on june it makes an impact to create a shadow to the right. >> and then again in december in the winter solis. >> that is what i have to say for the presentation and the author is here in the case you have any questions as well as the project sponsors thank you. >> opening up for public comment kathy, (calling names). >> whoever is ready. >> hi and this is - i'm

bradford own the building on d half hour street to the north of the i don't have any problem with the design i have 3 issues i'd like to discuss the first one is at the street level from the sidewalk up it is 24 any building is 24 feet ohio they'll be 34 feet higher and cast a shadow i believe that will be like 90 percent of my roof from sunny was considering to put solar panels collection oversees on any roof to provide hot water for any building it is a four unit building i have four unit

apartment building to make sure i have a setback so i, get more sun on any roof for a collection that's number one and number two i'm not sure by looking at the plans where the lightwell will be on their, their north lightwell will that be - that's one of any issues i'd like to. >> sir, this is not a q and a. >> okay. >> so i'd like to see a lightwell abuts on their south

side that abuts my building. >> excuse me. it would be their north side that abuts my south side lightwell. >> also i'd like to make sure there is privacy glass or glazing on their north side that will be facing any apartment building i have windows on the two stories and three story my tenants will have windows in the lightwell so privacy glass we'll be appropriate thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> put them down right there. >> hi commissioners my name is peter i own the property directly across the street 1017

deharrow i'm here i want you to consider some amendments to the current plan 2 key issues i currently have one is the streetscape and impact to the walk and the imposing feel the buildings with the residents around it and 3 the gains and losses if you can dig into the plan the amount of gains for those higher floors and then thinking to what is obstructing if you look at the streetscape yes, it is there are other four stories buildings on that street but that is a very hilly street the visible impact is different across that block this is at the crest and the apex of that hill you end up with that missing tooth sort of look that happens it feels residential throughout you have

this vertical inspire on top of hill that red brick building is tall having more and more of those pop up it is like an urban city block versus a residential block that potrero hill has many of and the next pages talking about the view out to from my buildings most of buildings there have you know all they're light is coming from forwards facing windows i did a shadow impact towards the second half the day taking as a four story building and understand that projections into any property and again kind of that feel out the window and seeing this large building even with setbacks the front view will feel at all and

lastly digging into that i respect the buildings for folks - some of it feels offer overly done with the floor plans are 3 decks necessary can we reduce that it up most deck with the square feet it is small in comparison to the rest of the building i get it that is an investment you want to make the most of it but asking some reductions to be considerate of the properties surrounding the area i'm not saying don't do it but can we have reductions to that height thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker any other speakers on this item? >> yes. >> just lay it down and sfgovtv will broadcast it. >> sfgovtv there thank you.

>> speak into the mike please and my name is kathy i'm representing 6 neighbors an carolyn electricity street to the east and a neighbor on d half hour street our main thing with the height and owe characteristic of the neighborhood and asking for the 4 story segment be removed from you look at the skyline of this neighborhood there are two buildings that stick out like an eye so forth that is since 1971 and nothing it built up live a lot of the neighbors i know multi generations a lot of the buildings are rent-controlled. >> speak into the mike please. that topography matters where you place a home in that diagram the four story building like the

height to the crest where the proposed building is and now there is the highest building will step back anti plo more if i look from carolyn street that building to the left is an eyesore we're not talking about blocking views we're talking about it is out of character for the neighborhood and taking if our own design guidelines single building out of context with the surrounding can be disruptive to the neighborhood character that's what you're concern is in terms of the they're showing on their diagram everything looks level i don't think their - i think this is misleading they're not showing the slope of that neighborhoods appropriately and in fact, there is a sign that says abrupt change in the

grade is goes down in terms of 6 other 4 story buildings in the area the two, that right now will be building at the crest that will add you know a much more disorganized look to the neighborhood across the street if you look at that profile many of the short homes are on the bedrock their lifted up but sit on the bedrock so building that keeps the integrity of that skyline structure and finally okay. so. >> 30 seconds. >> i would say in our building code i asked to take into the design take into consideration the building on the slope and i will also is when the father. >> please speak into mike and my family is 1906 and lives in d

half hour any father built this apartment building in 1938 he take into consideration keep the building lower and that's what we are asking to come to a compromise. >> thank you thank you. any other speakers on this item. >> hello my name is andrew i i am an resident on d half hour immediately next door to 1016 i can speak from the experience of - there are multiply decks of illegal airbnb you have tourists

cycling through and down my major concern is that organizationaling the other commenters that building as proposed is very large ohio it is uncomfortable to sit in the backyard and look at the sub and can you, you imagine that sun blocked by a new four story building thank you for your time and consideration for this residential very low level neighborhood appreciate it thank you. >> thank you. any other speakers you're on the project team you can't speak again any other speakers this portion of the hearing seeing none, commissioner moore. >> the first two lines in our

summary speaks of the demolition of an existing unsound first story single-family home over basement the two reports that i do not see is the demolition and sounds likeness report that deal with comes with applications when we have to consider a demolition is there any information that the department had and didn't pass on to us will you be able to answer that mr. spears. >> yes. under the previous unsounds like buildings they would - they were allowed to that administratively approved i did not include the sounds like support i - it is recommended point engineer attend there were questions about the soundness you know the technical sounds like support is important but,

however, yeah. i apologize that was included in the attachment. >> is the building unsounds like. >> yes. i was - that was about the attachment yes. the department looked at the report extensively look at the discussion with the engineering what can and cannot in that and, yes, i apologize yes. >> okay. okay. >> what strikes me about the building is that while you're suggesting two units when you look at the size and the numbers of bedrooms provided that is the size they're actually remarkably two bedrooms that makes me think this house is - this building is designed for a different purpose than what it is trying

to tell us here further to that i believe that asking for four parking spaces in an oversized home rays other questions i look at this building as a party house and while i think that is competently designed that raise questions that don't align with the issues we're discussing the gentrification and the purpose to rooms i don't see a family room on the fourth undertook floor a family room with in the other will function it is vague what that building tries to really do so 2, 3, 4 response to neighbors concerns i will first ask myself what it is trying to do perhaps i'll open up for the commissioners to see i'll see

what my fellow commissioners have to say with my other colleagues think. >> commissioner melgar. >> so having just stepped up to the plate the building inspector commission that is the second time in a short time my time at the planning commission i've heard about a substandard building without having back up that makes me uncomfortable not having a factual you know set of information because it comes so much in terms of of a demolition and having that be the justification so i want to put that out there i will appreciate some data just because that comes up. >> and also as commissioner moore just said i'm not sure i see the plan of that building having seen the neighbors presentation during the comment

section his view a obtaining bladed of twin peaks i'm wondering where why you need a fourth floor for a two unit building doesn't make sense it seems like you could get everything you want you know with a more respect design one that preserves the sunlight to our next door neighborhood that wants to have the view across the street neighbor but to me those are the too obvious things. >> any other commissioners. >> commissioner moore. >> yeah. the only questions interesting observation you're making commissioner melgar the other question i would ask the building has already sufficient balconies of sufficient size why there is an balcony on the four story to the front of building

those are all questions that layer themselves up to the intent of the building the story of the building is not convincing at all i would actually suggest that because the demolition report is something we not only owe to ourselves but other people that are asking us to prevent those we continue this particular project until some of the misinformation and discussion is for mature that's a motion. >> second. >> a particular date. >> commissioners as a point of clarification so we can get better information from the sponsor if i'm hearing i; correct? you want to sponsors to talk about their purpose for the building. >> i think you've heard the

con. >> we are getting to your present we're getting too much pressure to be accountable not only to this particular go up but all. >> another further clarification on the sounds like the staff report included or submitted included a lot of factors that under our definition sounds likeness will not be allowed under the future review and discussion of the engineers in the middle and templates in review a lot of additional information would be not - we will provide more information in the next hearing on the sounds like support. >> given the commission ability to read what the lastly.

>> just a point of clarification since we have the sponsor would that be good to have them talk about their design or we can. >> you should do that off the slide and i'm sorry. >> have the staff work with that i don't- >> that gives us a better shot at appropriately understanding the building and not missing anything to be obviously. >> commissioner johnson. >> yes. yippee support the motion to continue we need more information given in light of the last hearing literally the same discussion of a victorian that was sound and the housing in the discussion commissioners act ultimately not a good opportunity for gentrification it happened to have tenants in f

there that's not the case but have a full set of information not trying to complicate things if it is in fact, an unsounds like structure and have opportunity to provide 2 units on a late lot it is a pretty good project we can make some discussion about the four story and the layout in terms of market ability or what the intent of the building is but i'll say that i've tried to be consistent in not weighing views those are substantive depends on where you are it in the city and our view but so i think the building lay out could work maybe more justification would be nice to had a but don't expect we need qualify active

objectives but to make a better decision here. >> commissioner hillis. >> a question on the mechanical card if you have two car parking instead of 4 and get rid of the mechanical car lift is encroaches on the ground floor how that is working and what could work if - would it give you more space on the first story or the ground floor. >> if we eliminate it and two car parking. >> okay so that is the desire because this is a homeowner occupied house the brothers and parents will live there not agree impact the on-street parking they've elected to put that list a true way to center that car there so

to answer your question if they limited it to two car garage they'll park or park another car in the street. >> what will that do to the design. >> to the design we'll have more square footage in the house by liveable square footage. >> you'll need do mechanical left on ground floor. >> we see one car parking per unit and less in larger buildings so i agree with the notation to continue it balls eliminated a two car parking and somehow bringing that space into a living area may reduce the census of that deck is converted

you know that program. >> item was a direct request from what we want in the house we understand. >> there's a difference between public need and private good that's what you're hearing two spaces for one unit is a hard sell. >> okay. >> go ahead. >> wait one more question i mean again there say, i think using that example down the street is not a good one not a good one architecturally but i'm not against the four story necessarily i appreciate the segment but perhaps if we're going to continue this look at some kind of design alternatives for that four story i mean go want to change the vocabulary across the street there are similar sites without setbacks but they've got pitched roofs

obviously wouldn't work with our design but i think there is - could be a better way if you've got time and continue this to architecturally look at that four story. >> you noticed the sheet is 0.5 the residential design guidelines diagram. >> and you're also diagram is very, very, very similar and yeah. >> okay. thank you. >> do you have a date january? >> was there a date there was no date associated i was going to suggest december 1st for additional information if you want something further out we'll push it to january. >> i prefer january it gives them more time for tweaks. >> the parking recapturing the parking area into living space helps to reduce the space and the articulation of the

programming of the house is and the third floors one. >> was the balcony on the upper floor. >> balconies. >> other one and the profess of the balcony is correct. >> the sounds likeness report all 4 things so we have a motion to continue this item to january. >> 26. >> and a second. >> second. >> shall i call the question? >> we're done thank you. >> on that motion to continue to january 26th. >> commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore and commissioner vice president richards so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero. >> the commission will mission street conditional use authorization good afternoon sxhongs and fellow commissioners jeff

department staff the item before you requires a conditional use authorization for the proposed project on mist the project what has been marked as or requires krufrgs pursuant to the planning code and to canned a non-conforming use 2 proposes to expand the medical cannabis dispensary into an adjacent this item was continued and since then no additional public comment and previous letter of opposition was sent to the commission and i've protruded copies as the project proposes to expand and activate the vacant experimental retail use provides an increased level for medication for all times no smoking sovereigty it is compatible with the scale of the commercial district in planning

code and advanced the policies of general plan the department recommends to approve i'm available to answer any questions should there be any. >> project sponsor please. >> commissioners good afternoon. i'm phil les our fire house generation in the mission district and honored to have my side other institutions of the mission district chris if i executive director of mission dance that's where we're at and al the two of them have been in the mission for decades christie lives in the mission district and they embody the best of the mission and you can't walk down the street with each of those

individuals without people hugging them and stopping them and threatening them this is a honor to stand here in needing 2010 we asked for you to accept the departments recommendation have a medical cannabis dispensary on mission i unanimously approved that substantially there has not been a single police call as you can see from your files this block has gone through a major transformers we had an enormous amount of illegal drug activists on the street people selling illegal identifications, we had turf wars and people shot on the street i'm happy to say things have changed the old tower theatre is going to be

reopened on the san francisco compassed and sim ma arts will be taught there during that transition i'm going to turn it over to alto follow-up we saw a major change in societies perspective of cannabis and we saw a day before, yes with prop 64 which was approved by 56 percent of the voters in california 17 percent of san franciscans voted in favor of that and district 9 i suspect in the 90s so with that said this project is completely different than the last one an expansion within the existing building and the existing tenants a lot stay that there it is in keeping with everything in the plan to promote the businesses and mr.

chair farrell will talk about how many people are going to be employed and the sophistication the number of products available the knowledge they're able to provide to people who use this product and a lot of that is private knowledge and one of the main requests to permit them to expand internally to provide better privacy to the people with that said, i'd like to i'm going to turn it over to mike to the colleague thank you very much. >> good afternoon, commissioners again, i'm al shower and been doing business in the mission i started early 1980 and actually learned english in mission street with the latino immigrant at that time, i'm very well aware of all aspects in mission i've seen it

through the years and worked with the changes the negative and positive and the mission has not changed with all the business in mission i've always been mindful of the environment for my employees and staff and my clients and since i'm a father of two beautiful girls i'm a very protective of families and children in 2010 when i asked for approval for a dispensary i thought that would be better to handle and actually had the whole building made that smaller at the time, we didn't know where this was going with in surprise yesterday history was made with proposition 54 when i first started thin then i had 3 employees today 15, 13

items we're selling today, we have over three hundred 40 items we're selling we have over 40 thousand patients in our database our place hadn't changed everything has changed in 6 years the maturity of that cannabis became so big people look for having seenal medication to treat they're all times and sometimes that is really private and very, very personal and people tend to whisper they don't want people to listen and in my place because it is small how small it is we've not providing the privacy we need more our clients so - we believe this enhance been really good for the mission and for the community and it la

will make us better to handle and respect our clients i'm all i'm asking to accept the recommendation of the planning department thank you very much and here's christie. >> greetings and thank you for your credible hard work to make san francisco what it is today as the majority of our suffer through the hang over of our recently election 64 clearly the will of the voters is on the side of the recreational marijuana the journey has not been an easy one we work hard to learn with the difficulties including the limit real estate options the stigma of pot smoking and the lack of transparency by the medical industry to the real benefits of cannabis and most dependent difficult was the inconsistent pack of the federal government that choose our club to shut

down let me remind you, we prafltd and they dropped their out not would you emotional and financial drain as someone that lives on 21st and cap since 1996 i walk to work to 24 and mission and rays a child in the mission let's be clear the expansion of shamming balance fits into the new businesses the mission corridor with many people coming and going they visit the cafe and the doctors and dentists on the streets and the closing stores on either side of us we're together in harmony going and working and serving the community in the doing everything we can some people in the neighborhoods are severing food we sell marijuana for all our aches and pain marijuana is

stigma its not like alcohol when prohibition ran the country many people have suffers and now that california has vote especially in san francisco the time has come to left the arresting chiropractic standards the expansion insides its own building serves the patients are privacy and expanded product and applies more people in the mission and be able to get the message to people about the benefits of medical cannabis that are many we're in a new time and let's get going thank you very much. >> okay opening it up for public comment

(calling names). >> good afternoon commissioner president fong and members i'm david blackwell here to oppose this i and so forth those reigns e reasons in correspondence to august 2nd and 8 that was pass out today there are two primary reasons in opposition one in this case the expansion of a non-conforming use is not permitted and second even if it were you can't make the fofdz oar a this is not a hearing the decisions have to be supported by the record that simply can't be met we all know in san francisco and california non-conforming use can't be expanded that's the basic rule

there is a narrow extension under section 18 of one that allows mcd district but the reason that allows the non-conforming to be expanded the express reason to allow the traditional uses that are now prohibited because the undermining zoning changes those uses are no longer allowed that is not the case here shammibola - has nothing to do with with that and destined the reason that shambola is within the thousand foot citywide bare that city established years ago to be away from schools and community centers that's why the use of legal non-conforming so the expansion exception to

the prohibition against the expansion didn't apply here. >> i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> if it doesn't make sense but nothing no section allows the expansion of non-conforming uses created by something other a change in underlying zoning even if expansion were allowed i submit the required cu a finding can't be met you have to make a use it is necessary and desirable and must not be detrimental well, that's incrementally circuited by the whole reason for the thousand foot barrier you created that barrier you decided those uses should not be close to school the finding can't be met here thank you.

>> hello my name is lo la i have worked in the mission district since 2004 and lived in mission for the majority of last 15 years throughout any college years and now i reside in bernal heights i run a grown death and movement program we participate in many mission activities including violin and walk against rape and holiday performances and residuals to the theatre and many communities events that he delores park and yerba buena and lots of outdoor locations i'm also a dancer and perform my experience with sha you they've

supported artists cleavers in and around the mission shimmiambola - i support the expansion of shambola to enter into their existing building it helps to enlighten the neighborhood and dramatically improves the club to support it's patients i although i'm not a marijuana user myself i recently voted for the recreational use of marijuana like the vast majority of residents of district 9 i also reside in i believe that step up to the plate the shambola is the will have people in the 21st century thank you for your time.

>> next speaker, please. >> hi my name is mark i'm a resident of the mission of 12 years wells a business owner a block away from shambola i'm here to say i support this project i first met al not as a business owner but a family-friendly face on the street working to work everyday and we discovered what he was doing i fully support hearing impaired they have cameras out and security is great for all of us thank you. >> any i'm vicky i live on 123r50er9 3 blocks away from

stamping balance i've been you're going marijuana i have a stigma with hoisting to not have a stigma i look like an older senior if i get a joint to expand the dispensary for our community and our neighborhood to make a safe place for seniors and disabled people like me walk from 17th street to 20th to church and walk to shambola a block away that neighborhood before i go home that will be a total safe place for me and other hiv people in the building and socialize in the mission district thank you. >> hello, i'm andrew i work

for al at shambola i'm a patient advisor and to give privacy to the patient going into a medical cannabis is not the easiest for people new to the facility we get a lot of new patients that are afraid to open up for me and my other patient advisors giving more space they can freely talk with the patient advisors better for us to help them out with whatever ails them so thank you very much. >> good afternoon islam's a lane i can't i've worked in the mission for the last 20 years and seen the mission go through radical changes over that time

from foreign simple ma to simon balance to the mission district between 20th and 22 street has been completely transformed the neighborhood is not a tourist designation and shambola is part of a contribution they provide a beautifully appoint shop for medicinal marijuana and thousand of people come to their doors with no crime loitering or blatant drug use the people at shambola know what they're doing as administer by cannabis providers the ratings are high and the customers and patients are happy the expansion of their business is a benefit to the neighborhood providing more jobs and more capacity to care for their patients thank you. >> good afternoon my name is

richard i'm a patient i'm a veteran two wars and i support this this facility and its staff provide a proper medical alternative service for veterans as well as other people i also appreciate the fact that i was beforehand born and raised in the mission i drive up for the staff i still have friends and family in the mission supported by in the staff buys sandwiches or tacos like i said, i was born and raised in the neighborhood i've seen a lot of bad things people shot and stabbed i've seen people line of credit e lying in the street it would be nice with a business doing something positive and

good for the neighborhood the staff is very, very knowledgeable recently i've lost any sister to cancer and gone into the staff and asked them what can i do as an alternative for any sister that is dying of cancer what can you suggest she's not eating and the staff came forward and made some suggestions and unfortunately my sister lost her fight with cancer that was a hell of a fight i thank shambola for giving me sounds like advice and helped me with any post - i was a war veteran of two wars it would be nice to see that you know someone i go in there and say thanks for your service the staff is very knowledgeable i'll say hey rick let's talk about

our condition what's good what kind of we'd can i used to make my nightmares disappear at night it is hard to see a 20-year-old kid drop in our lap with his blood coming from his neck the military tells us how to turn that off but not how to get back to our wife and kids not how who turn that back on i find that going here and saying yugs that will help our nightmares go away i support this and i feel this is a very good thing for the mission district i've not seen the used to go to dlovrts and buy weeds and dodge the cops now

i don't have to do that here's a legitimate place i can go to thank you very much have a good night. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is stella and was born and raised in the mission and currently live in the mission which is four blocks from the shambola across the street if the jose playground i walk on any way to work he pass people that are on down on their luck but the the fact of the matter this is in a child fwrinl primarily for adults to hang out in and around activities took place but their anger at best shambola is a

world away on mist and lived in the part of mission i've seen a change for good and bad but shambola contributes to the community not only to beautiful with their boutique but a thriving business that adds to commerce and wellness of a neighborhood and their patients they're known in the area for support and concern of patients and clear that medical and recreational cannabis here to stay i support shambolas expanding we have an understanding of tare product and in their patients how they fit into the community thank you for your time. >> good afternoon. i. a 12 year resident in the mission i've been around 14 and mission i used to live closer to shambola i've seen it in the

last year's and grow their, their a dispensary and should be allowed to expand as a need for this kind of place becomes greater so i don't have much to say yeah, this should happen so thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is jay jay i'm a resident of san francisco for about 11 years. >> and i support the expansion of shambola for two reasons one as a patient they deliver really good services clean and secure and visiting other places dispensaries i really see shambola as an example in a business that clearly will be

growing how things should be done an opportunity for a business to expand i think just provides other folks in this industry something to look toward to do it the right way thank you. >> is there any additional public comment? >> okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioner hillis. >> i'm supportive of the cu i'm glad we have the track record of operator and seen the positive response from the community i think there was one discussion of why to expand this the thousand feet we proposed to reduce that but that will work its way to the board i presume you know to have students not impose necessarily to those places is the fact it is expand will not do any harm they're not allowed into the space under the

current rules i'm supportive and move to approve. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much i also think i want to address the you know the cu and sort of some of the comments we had about the finding for this project i actually think it is necessary and desirable for a couple of different reasons expanding the size may actually help us not have - not to have a density of those uses around each other where we've seen many mcds cluster not because of green zones but it is small in size they're taking over smaller retail use so every in coming ncd can make think argument every market has mcd has a certain volume of people given this one within the thousand

feet circle we'll see if it maintains itself now the proposition has passed its but still stands as of today i'd like to see a use that xooments the community need so we don't necessarily have to see a clustering of mcds in one area. >> commissioner moore. >> self-defense interesting to see this particular facility ask for larger time under prop 64 we're talking about recreational versus medical marijuana this is the expansion seems to be focused on patient care and privacy which given a 26 or 27 frontage of the building at large is not going to be really making it look like a mega facility but back of the house for additional uses are dedicated to patient space for

that reason that i am supportive if it occurred in a facility that is more street ordered with frontage i'd be concerned under prop 64 i think the board of supervisors and working groups will have to seriously exam where and how and what size and frequency we can really see the addition of recreational marijuana stores be positive ingredient in our neighborhood corridor that is a different project this is basically an traditional mcd for that reason that i'm supportive of what is front of the you today. >> commissioner melgar. >> i had a question for staff so because i'm new here and i don't know the process if this

expansion happens in 2018 when the retail marijuana for recreational purposes is implemented what businesses have to come in and get other cu to convert some the streej to retail or not have to do that. >> it's my understanding they'll not have to do that but department staff will address that more. >> thank you, commissioner the insider prop 46 was complicated what is clear whether this or in the other medical cannabis dispensary were to seek to add non-medical cannabis or convert wholesales probation officer non-medical cannabis that will be subject to whatever rules in place this facility is permit as a medical

medical cannabis dispensary and any change they'll have to come back. >> that was my only you know question mark because in the mission we're weird is alcohol as other parts of the city i don't want this have a half hazard you know permitting of use ahead of actually being thoughtful how we're going to you know make the rules because we'll have have to come back i i don't have any problem. >> i think i'm more concerned about this really sort of hoped the task force will have their finding by today after the november election i think what specific we ask that task force to try to come back with the finding you know the inside thousand square feet of a school is still

holding if that is what the law is today, we can abide by it one of the first operators we approved and absolutely building there were no police records and lovely clinic tell expanding the size of store we're not taking them out of business still the same clinic tell as yesterday i'm in the middle on this one and hoped we'd have for clear direction the city will precede with the passing of this proposition. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i hear commissioner president fong concerns we had an exact nearly exact situation an hate center about a month ago and approving the expansion

within the square footage of the story not a neighboring retail location he know the building reads as one building, however, two retail locations we have a question for the city attorney i'm a little bit more curriculum speck you know that prop 64 and this very you know their will related and non-related as well my concern the loss of existing retail store he guess maybe the question for the project sponsor, project sponsor? so the additional retail use i saw the maps can you tell me how this is the expansion of shambola this additional retail use >> yes. commissioner vice president richards. >> the project team not been in the business when in was

approved in 2010 mr. shambola had a retail store that's the best dressed man in the mission he had a fire and had to reconsider whether they wanted to open or get into another business they decided basically do this and basically seeing what is going on in the street illegally and do something proper and not only for their business but for the neighborhood so at the time he could have - >> can you ask. >> for the entire space worry about that may not take off as a business and kept half the space empty so for another business. >> so are you the lease holder on the entire space. >> i'm going to turn it over to. >> are you the building owner.

>> no, i'm not and at the time he had the whole thing but didn't want it to be that big i figured out you need a window and a table and do it so we were all confused 6 years later this space didn't serve the amount of patients and the privacy they deserve even though he had the vacant place next door to me nobody is using it. >> question sir, you held the retail use next door vanity for 16 years and paying on that. >> absolutely they couldn't rent it to anybody but i couldn't arraignment to restaurant that a sells alcohol i was limited so i carried it all this time. >> it was never rented since 2010 and it is leased to us.

>> so if - let me take a step back if you only minded a small space but go the big space and couldn't use the other half anyhow why not use the whole space. >> i still can represent it okay. but i was worried about who i'm going to represent it to by the time things are settled the federal government came after me nobody wanted to touch me it kind of detailed 3 years after it was clear and done this thing is changing the stigma is changing it's maturing and maybe we can use it and today, i came before you. >> absolutely i have no issue with our business or model it is the land use decision i'm trying

to contemplate up here. >> thank you for listening. >> sure. >> commissioner moore. >> i want to clarify the size of the says that the space is less than the rent of the building the store frontage is 24 or 26 feet i don't have the exact dimension that's currently use is 12 feet that's the width of our living room and given the use he has to rent the other 12 feet the space a basically a long rectangle and 12 feet of retail frontage is little for a postcard store for that reason i understand why using it now at the the full width of the reception area or whatever is probably a more balanced use of building i have the same concern had you

look at the physicality it had restricts for multiple uses on that floor plate. >> so very with the votes to - i want to share i feel like i'm not sure what i'm approving we don't know what the transition from medical to square footage to 2000 square feet of schools i know that is a tiny sliver of a space and make sense to do that but i'm unclear what we're voting on right now. >> commissioner moore. >> commissioner president fong i really hear you and we have the same questions because this is coming down like a big thunder are a lot of the responsibility to none has answers i've heard sxhifksz this more than in the opening comments of commissioners voice

serious concerns of hoarding space but i hear the gentleman's comments that mcds fall under a different way of being packaged that will have hits e it's owner day of years ago and reconsideration when that happens that's the only thing if this particular organization will not have the reputation it has i think that will raise more questions but i have not heard that including not in the mission. >> do you have a response to that. >> for the proposition 64 was introduced we've already suffered the lack of privacy so before this contact about we applied and we wanted to ask you. >> my concern not with you as the operator but just to where we are with the current state law and local.

>> i understand i hope you find it easy. >> okay. thank you. >> okay jonas. >> ready yeah. >> there is a motion that has been seconded to approve that with conditions commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore and commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and commissioners that places us in our discretionary review calendar item 13 was withdrawn that puts us on item 14 for case after a discretionary review. >> good afternoon, commissioners mary woods of department staff the item before you is related to two requests for dr of a project proposing to demolish a

third story single-family home and construct a four story single-family with regards to the issue of the residential demolition the planning code section 317 allows the department to administratively approve single-family decisions in the rhd-1 not affordable or financially assessable housing the zoning administrator therefore has issued a memo on march 14, 2016 administratively approving the demolition that the discretionary review requesters concerns the excess use of staircase glass and the penthouse and loss of privacy and light and air and also opposition to demolition of the existing building and that the new building is not comparable

with the mediterranean architecture style of the 20s and 30s and sets e sets a health and massing for the entire fabricated that leads to massive changes in the historic character the neighborhood and i also diminishes any future historic district department staff including our prevention and the rdt are the have reviewed the proposed project restrictions were made to address the neighbors concerns staff finds the 0 project is consistent with the neighborhood character and the residential design guidelines staff recommends that the commission not take dr and approve the project as revised since last thursday distribution of the packet staff has received two additional opposition letters and 6 additional support

letters this concludes any summary of the project i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> dr requesters. >> we'll pass it out. >> okay. good afternoon commissioner president fong and members of the planning commission my name is marlene hooirns with the neighborhoods directly to the west of the property project we've resided in the home for the past 3 two years and raised our family we've opposed yoebd with a third story home their two or three

stories they are absolutely no 46rz the problems with the four story all glass penthouse built on the west wall with in sergeants nothing absolutely nothing has been done to minimize our privacy concerns to minimize the loss of light and sun to our study, patio and master bedroom with the intrusive all glass penthouse looking down on us we lose one hundred percent of privacy we've enjoyed and an intimate part of our liveability the previous owners expressed concerns to us when we put our hot tub in person concerned about our ability to look down into their dining room resulting in a loss of privacy we worked with them and designed our patio with potted trees all around to afford them the privacy they've

asked for and in so doing created a private place we can enjoy a dip in the hot tub this space as an extension the master bedroom and study area from this photo as you can see the great impact this four story penthouse has on our privacy since the home is being move forward back into the backyard we will experience considerable loss of sunlight during certain times of the year we've had an change to watch the impacts since the dr was filed and find them grandchildren what we first thought that is to be routine by the planning commission, and may be acted upon by a single roll call vote overview of our master bedroom from the first window looking to the hot tub anyone will look into our bedroom and study area as the four story penthouse expends to where this window ended the light this is

evidence will have a lot of shadowing the second window that gives us a lot of natural light will be blocked as the third story moves back into the yard what we have a filtered light due to the existence of a holy tree we'll have a wall higher than our bedroom causing considerable shadows now i need to correct the record in response to our dr the project sponsor contends we w have no impacts because our buildings are thirty fiat apart the law office says the same thing and draws lines to a portion of our home that's not the subject of this dr apparently, they feel our master bedroom study and patio don't existed this is the part closest to the residence our buildings are approximately 8 feet apart as prescribed by

code we 134e789 our surveys showing the dimensions this points to the fact our concerns are not taken seriously and much dismissed as the portion of our home is dismissed the only challenges made to the original plan are those the city requires our impacts are severe and real we able the commission to take discretionary review and completely deny this four story thank you okay. a second dr requester that is. >> good afternoon, commissioners steve williams on behalf of the tim and denise that live adjacent to the project at the

al come delmar i want to echo no concerns have been addressed eave known them and called them twice and never returned any call i asked him why he said he forgot in can say is exceptional or extraordinary fairly that is the first demolition it sea clefts in f this historic neighborhoods we have to realize that planting a mostly glass four story building in the middle of a hopefully visible lot will have a profound and latin permanent one hundred year impact on the neighborhoods we are asking you to endorse and sign off and second the proposed size of new this it height and bulk are completely 2, 3, 4 incomparable with the neighborhood no four story

buildings and the mass and bulk is completely out of place sticks out like a square glass sore thump height no four story buildings in the neighborhood the project sponsor says there are 4 such building ones this block it is substantively false 101, 27th avenue a 411 and others el camino are four story buildings and present a exhibit h can i have the overhead, please? present h and up in the corner here they are first of all, 101, 26 avenue not in the neighborhood not on the block if you look at any exhibit 5 to the brief the department says in the

in the sea crest in the rooshdz that states 4:30 and others delmar are second story and third story and other i put a 230i89 on page 5 of the brief there it is those are not four story buildings they have shown the aerial photograph of the buildings and trying to count garages dug underground as four story building the assessor our confirms second story and third story and second story he brought the assessors report it is subjectively false four story buildings. >> second is the mass and he bulk you're being told that it is cumber a 55 hundred square

feet building and it is being replaced by a 64 hundred square feet building roughly an increase of 5 hundred square feet that is obviously false in fact, the existing building is much, much smaller on the assessor our has the existing building as 38 hundred square feet that's what their passerby taxes on there's the assessors report 38 hundred square feet in the basement so about 4 thousand square feet their replacing that with 64 hundred square feet that's a 24 hundred square feet increase tremendously learn what you're told and you know what you been shown with the drawings so the demolition it is true that the kirnlt building is not a protected historic resource and it is true that it is of a newer vintage p

than the building in the area, however, a sixth building in its context and it is architecture fits with the historic protected neighborhoods that's not my words the departments words here's the departments preservation staff review form when asked from the earth made that eligible for the california registration they answered "yes" because of the context that's an objective fact so knocking it down destroys the context of the historic area not protected under ceqa that's true but in the context it currently exists in the existing neighborhood it is an important part of that neighborhoods i'd like to submit the assessors

reports. >> 430, 440 and 450 el camino. >> okay speakers in support of dr requesters supervising in support of dr peakers in support of dr requesters. >> my name is brad, i live near and received a letter in the mail yesterday saying a meeting today and addressed to the former owner from 4 years ago so i apologize i don't have any presented materials but when i heard that there were claiming our house was a four story building i wanted to reiterate that in fact, it is a second story building i don't know if this work i took a picture of it

if i put my camera should that work. >> i apologize that's my house two stories and live on a steep slope other than the el camino so by the nature of the parcel homes to the left is identical to mine is second story building over garage that is dug into the ground which is - i certainly object to the fact there are several four story buildings i'm concerned if this passes everyone is ceqa will put additional stories on top of they're building and one of the earth designs the light pollution by a glass building sea crystal-clear is a dark neighborhood there's been no lights very few other than small

the head lens we're fortunate not to see is dark and again, i would have had a picture if you have a large four story glass building that is lit up my understanding is the owners work a lot that will cause a disruption and i think that will be a shame to have a big apple store sitting in front of of our eyes twenty-four hour a day. >> any other speakers in support of dr requester. >> my name is bruce san francisco resident for over 35 years the last time i appeared before the commission in 1988 at

that time, the issue was whether or not the university high school should add a story to one of they're building and the university high school was in the quadrant that is bordered by barker north-south and jackson and washington street east west in exactly the same circumstances as we have here the building department found the technical requirements had been met and the staff indicated the code requirements had been met and staff approval what was slightly different this was a school and the reason for the four story was clamors and administrative office as opposed to to an individual office or a family nevertheless, has part of that process the planning commission understood it's role as i know you all understand to

take a second look at what staff and the building department have approved or referred to. >> and say well, does this meet within a aesthetic and environmental and the quality of life aspects of what we would like to have in our neighborhoods in san francisco and it was on that basis that the planning commission members spoke up for the proponents for the university high school addition of a story including the problems the top lawyers in the city disease notwithstanding all the support of project the commission k3i7b8 look at it and sat down with the school and the result was that the school was

permit to add a story by the in an ingenious move the story was added below grade with skylights that bordering the clams to have light and air so we have precedence for the planning commission intervening in situation whether there is an objective concern about the quality the aesthetic and life some kind of avenue neighborhood and making a informed and carefully review and coming up with the right response that 28 years later i own a property third story we too have is the technical right to move up through our attic space and add to the 40 foot ceiling limit a allocate story presumably. >> thank you, sir, your time

is up. >> sorry okay. >> other speakers in support of dr requester. >> okay not seeing any, project sponsor please. >> good afternoon, commissioners tom of reuben, junius & rose on behalf of the project sponsor and john anyhow and in their too young children john is here this afternoon as your architect mr. butler will speak in a moment i'd like to make a couple of quick points first address the submission by mr. williams on behalf of the and inadequacy first mr. williams allegations that was the rdt that included that is

not impartial with the neighborhood character and neighborhoods design that's not the case yes. that statement exists in the 3 rdt memos through the process but those are repeating the dr requester concerns not rdt concerns the conflict in the staff report the rdt has determined the design is comparable with the neighborhood design and states points rdt concluded not a practice again, the neighborhood dr requester concern not the rdt we want to address the point about the determination this not a historic resource and mr. williams points to the preservation team review form

zoom in right on top. >> anyway public safety the architecture box was checked this is an older home in a potentially historic district but the report itself - they concluded is it a highly simplified design 18 colonial design no known architect the home simply doesn't exist and and quality as a historic residence as to rdt review overall you'll see in the staff report we made numerous restrictions as dr requester concerns and the staff reports listed 9 items skerj or

concerning the revisions based on the changes made and the project it's the rdt and staff are recommending approval as revised and ask you do the same i'm going to turn it over to mr. butler i'm available to answer any questions thank you. >> hello he my name is louis butler the architect of the proposed project good afternoon i'll address a couple of general tops before the design ms. the recycling of an existing house and a building of a new house two new houses on san francisco i've done 5 or 6 in the past a reason and place in san francisco so for new houses a house like this existing has 8 foot floor to ceiling heights on the main floor not the typical ceiling height and difficult to fix that when you raise the

ceiling 2 creates a hinge point and raise the next floor and a bit of house of cards combined with the de facto makes the remodel more and more expensive those mathematically through a construction analyze it that's true how we get to the analysis generally, the floor ambulance planning we transfer to a now the house house it is common to go to a new house but the principle still applies in san francisco a good place for construction one of the ones we did a few years ago it was well received i'm i'd like to address mr. williams communication he and i talked about and wanted the building lowered lowering the driveway ada was adamant and rdt didn't want to see a sub

merged block so unfortunately, the very thing that steve williams wanted to accomplish we were not able to accomplish and had numerous conversations with terry and marlene i'll get to that in a second on is the gene the rent-controlled the residence i think you've seen that in the packet i'd like to refer to the detailing i really want to stress that is not a south of market box. >> a carefully detailed building with careful attention to the materials and it is a design that has thick walls and you see the materials will have texture to that we spent a lot of time in the neighborhood looking others hours this is a very handsome house i've been seeing this house for years if you look at the right hand lower

side has a beautiful stone on the left-hand side it is a combination of this textured like stucco and tall windows with a similar pattern this is the family of architecture we're in and happy to be in that many other houses a sheet in the packet i'll show you a couple of more this is on 26, 30th and like a handsome building go to the next one and here's another one at sea crest this is the family of after the accident this is indicates a few important things i'll read down a list of numbers if you go apples to apples we are adding under one thousand square feet to the house that is grow measurement what's the assessors office takes this out this is under one thousand

square feet in the penthouse the new building is actually shorter than existing building by 3 feet the new building reaches the 35 height limit seconds on the graphic not over the 35 height limit no part enters into the 10 foot between 35 and 45 feet and not even a satellite derby it is 4 feet higher than the existing building the new building setbacks 5 feet that makes a difference dwh when you talk about the penthouse we'll do in a bit the penthouse is actually 23 feet back from the facades of the building and 38 from the property line and most of penthouse is 34 back from the facade 39 from the property line that building is setback 3 feet on both sides so the footprint is smaller on the footprint of proposed building as a smaller

footprint. >> this is an aerial of the neighborhood you can point to the area between the house and our house and zoom out there is the area between in their house and our house and i'll speak about the dining room if you zoom out that distance it is bigger any other place in sea cliff you typically don't get that kickoff space between the houses this is unusually large space next slide, please this is a back and forth of the window placement notth the penthouse to the square footage of the proposed windows is exactly the same as the square footage on the lower 3 floors which is 13 percent of wall area that's the instant in if you add do penthouse as another 6 percent we're at 19 percent of wall area reduced into 25 percent in the original 311 packet i'd like to

put your money where your mouth is dave should the dining room window and mouse house that's the existing huge window faces more of their house than any thoughts windows we're pitting in their smaller ones or in the stall someone is not like in camping out in a dining room for a long period of time this is a section you've seen showing the sidelines those are the worst-case all the people in the diaphragm are in the stair area they go through quickly and also when one is in the penthouse they're in the middle of the room and horizontally over the top of their house so i think the penthouse is not the privacy issue is and no new privacy issues but the floors above below that are existing today,

we're exciting about building the first new houses and sea cliff i'd like to think we'll do a great job and material shadow lines and high quality product is something that will be easily realized in the final product thank you. >> okay calling speakers in support of project sponsor. >> hello ami sheila a neighbor on 28 avenue nearly 20 years seen a lot of changes when you stands either in my living room or upstairs in my master bedroom i look at accident back of the promoted house i think that is

terrific there are a lot of houses in our neighborhood and sort of mixes that up and the current house is nothing to look at so it will be delightful to see that house built and reflects the changes in the neighborhoods >> good afternoon flooirmdz my wife and i have lived in sea cliff for 20 years since we did two remodels on sea cliff and two the obesity great neighborhoods and friends with the folks at their previous residence and now since they've moved similar to sheila a lot of

development in the neighborhood all done to high quality louis and his first name did many of the models i'll be excited for a project like this this is beautiful a lot of architecture styles within the neighborhood it is done to high quality he my family and i are in support of this thank you. >> is there any additional public comment? >> in support of project sponsor and okay dr requesters a to minute rebuttal. >> hi again, this project is very clearly designed fits under the radar however, there are several red flags again, we have the problem with privacy and i know that mr.

butler knows we're quite a distance away what he's talking about a setback it is a city setback of 3 feet on the anyhow residence we have to have a little bit over 5 because of the size of our lot so we're 8 feet and what we're talking about is this private patio area the hot tub and talking about our bedroom, etc. so the problem with us, of course, is this four story looking directly down on us and effecting our liveability and the liveability of some of our neighbors in this will be the first four story home on the south side of sea crest and the first demolition that is a very sensitive problem a demolition avenue structurally sound building not falling apart so

and this particular building are whole part of south side of sea crest avenue we're no quasi are we touching any of the cliff homes a very different type of home but add to the economic diversities of sea psychiatrist that is very, very important and to respect that with a ultra modern building and put something like this it is a nice design but doesn't belong on the block a disruption to the pattern thank you very much. >> steve williams again you know, i didn't say that was a historic resource quite the opposite the department found 2,

3, 4 contextlysis butler flashed photos of modern structures not in the matter building or block not on this block they measured the heights wrong and declared the building an e line camper delmar didn't declare the four story i've given you the assessors report that is unknown dug in garages on a steep hill none of those buildings with four story the analysis was on incorrect facts that's in the departments analysis that says that the houses behind are third story or four storys in height range from second story to third story not true not any that was a access before the dimension on 29th avenue 3 blocks away the commission found a modern design

not comparable with the neighborhood and even more true now you have a potential historic district not a simple four story building and not a single demolition the 29th avenue had to four story buildings on that block and the commission found it incompatible you received an e-mail from the new owners at 520 el camino delmar made that clear they've opposed the project that the previous owners protested they satisfied the folks and went through the dr not true they move forward away the new owners opposed it and sent you an e-mail saying we opposed it the surrounding neighbors oppose this and the people on the block we ask you to stop the demolition and/or take off the four story.

>> okay project sponsor two minute rebuttal. >> good afternoon louis butler not spending a lot of time on the frantically that no fault support building there is 7 letters as of today i've done a lot of work in the neighborhood and there are a lot of people aware of this project that are not involved but perfectly happy to see that go ahead and looking forward to you know how a neighborhood dynamic works people hold back but in fact, this is a quite well received project this is a graphic that has taken from the house directly behind our project why not below that up that's not the folks house but the house to the west this

is at historic penthouse shows the other view that's the bedroom floor and the main floor i believe the folks home is similar to that we're happy to talk about the extent of the house and discuss the modifications that view is to previous face that view about privacy this is the side of the house it is obviously in question i put this up quickly i think that there can be suggestions i can make from any ended to mitigate the privacy issue i want to mention one other thing that is very important in the section we've compressed that penthouse into the rooms belis that feet abovee room we've pushed this down as

hard was we can dollars the section if you look at right here the sensitivity point a fixed point as you can see how the penthouse is compressed into the bathrooms below and minimizing the impact on the roof thank you. >> okay. that concludes the public hearings and among up to commissioners comments. >> we sat here not two hours ago on a different demolition with different criteria necessary and desirable and comparable ways the vail of the house i sit here and looking at well, i have to have a different threshold on this project whether we move forward or not move forward because the value is in the top 20 percent of the houses in san francisco that is absolutely stupid one standard all over for one house not because in potrero hill do we

have the final rdt sheet we see mr. williams presents i believe what is a dr requester meeting with the rdt the 3 sheets he handed ♪ his brief >> david lindsey i did not see what we handed in. >> 3 rdt meanwhile sheets i'm not sure who the meeting was with october 2015 and tab 3, 4, 5 i'm trying to understand. >> those are the summary sheets prepared following the rdt meeting which are internal meetings. >> so were those sheets compiled after the drs were

filed and october was october 2015 would have been well before the dr was filed and the second one. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry i think that is tab 3, 4, 5 are january or february and a may or march and a may or something. >> are these she's in response to the dr files how do we come about. >> yes. we do the sheets after is department of human resources were filed let me in your packet from steve williams he shows where that says in the middle of the page it says project funds and in parenthesis it says in dr

is filed list the concerns. >> hoa's radio the dr requesters concerns. >> repeated. >> the rdt response in the bottom of the sheet. >> yes. >> do we have the rdt meeting sheets before the dr was filed as the project was working its way through the department. >> one with the project planner he came in after the drs were filed so - >> so the bottom response of the rdt the final 3 responses that would equal the final predr or sheet. >> it's all collective. >> so not different. >> okay. >> thank you that clears up something one other thing ms. woods can you have that back sorry. >> mr. williams handed in a sheet with one of the circles

filed in no, no, no, yes, no can you talk about that. >> if i may in the commission packet is right before the let me see where are they. >> your commission packet after the maps all the parcel maps there's the letter and right after the z a letter a ceqa categorical determination and . >> right. >> and the preservation form. >> precisely. >> why would the - telling me what that means the earth registered in an eligible historic district context on one or more of the following criteria circle for architecture

but, but if you look at it even though it is kirlgdz the bubble underneath that the 19, 13 to 35 the non-restricted contributor is checked so that means even with the existing building architecture a non-contributor. >> so let me ask you this if at the point to put in any type of house they can paint is purple and stuff would there be an issue with that in a historic district out of the context. >> that's the second part sometimes things are taken out of context we have to finish the whole report if i go to the next page on the back. >> okay trying to get there lost any spot. >> on the same page on the backside. >> what does it say. >> the last paragraph the

neighborhood that the preservation staff had designed that would be potential historic district are buildings that are built in the 20s and 30s with a mediterranean revival style in building was built in 1951 outside of the context that the department was looking at okay. >> so the department has concluded this whole block that whole block was built in the 50s they're not significant to the historic. >> so all the spanish tile roofs in the photo is the district and this block. >> that's right. >> not excluded is the whole block where this building is all excluded. >> that's why the architecture if you look at the bottom check mark non-contributory and that's

helpful a couple of other thoughts assuming that is not historic and it is allowed because not a contributor in the block not a contributor i looked at this project sponsor submitted in overall view of the neighborhood i don't see many four story additions let alone clear ones with a roof deck i'm trying to see if there are actual roof decks in the photos i see a lot of roofs but no roof decks i have an issue where the four story and an issue are the four story glazing and trying to understand on this sheet project sponsor when we talk about the gray percentage this renderings the 3-d model sorry it is a lot of paper i look at how much glakz on all

the windows in the front plus the windows on the side and look at the roof and say it looks like more glazing was our 19 percent the entire building less the roof deck how did i calculate that from eye balling it. >> just the west wall i'm not aware of any planning codes section that limits glazing on a facade but the calculations is for the west wall. >> thank you where i'm at on this i'm struggling because of what we had on 1016 santa fe half hour nothing wrong with that with the conclusion - there are issues with the house that's where i'm at and wait for other commissioners to chime in.

>> commissioner hillis. >> a couple of questions one i think with the demolition of the home why it is necessary and remodeling gross it two a remodel to a demolition i get it and i think that i actually like the design it works here a historic neighborhood but i think this block kind of got a fair amount of vaurd architectures and what you've done here it says it's built today but not a glass box modern way it works the issue everybody has is the four story you seem to throw out an indication you have ideas to minimize i think the impact to our neighbor to the east you know given the

configuration of their home with the balcony and the hot tub and kind of the glazing you have and where that four story sits is different than the current dining room floor blocked by a right now of shrubs or trees on their deck you know the top floor is overly glazed compared to the rest of the home and the neighbors brought up the concerns of a light emanating box i don't know where our going with that savings account it on the side and omitting some of the glazing. >> my understanding the conversation were on the west side but you said east side backward i've heard about the

privacy issue than the four story wall the peripheries could be handled by simple means what i was proposing in terms of getting the mass of four story from angles going to the east wall and pulling that back for the wall 3 to 5 feet i think that really is the high impact for the folks and the people directly hidden i think we have two issues in terms of sideline and the last graphic for the view over the house and the bay the berries alteration will be an earn wall towards the west. >> certainly better for the folks for the dr requesters and to the south. >> i think that would be if you look at the roof escape the roofs naturally rise towards the west and the more towards the west with our bulk the more we

mellow in and stay out of the east and open up the waters that's where i was headed there. >> can you put that up again from there. >> yes. >> the view. >> can you do the one with the current building the proposed building not where you had one that was proposed building off the story pole. >> that was the one i was thinking of the right-hand side of the penthouse the water the right-hand side is the east side if it pulls back you open up the water on the north tower of bridge as you go west. >> it shows the same i think - a 35 is the current building. >> oh, yes go interest. >> the proposed - >> the proposed -

>> so here's a 35 and it agrees quite well with with the story poles and move the penthouse to the left that's the higher impact the tidal roof i don't understand the west side of the penthouse and incidentally the glass idea for the penthouse so you can see through to the water the transparency allows that through the penthouse we thought that was a good thing if we have angles like this. >> so our proposal to bring that back from the golden gate bridge side. >> yes. >> on the other side you obviously are a stairwell it is an interesting concept our dropping the floor over the bathrooms but i think there is a legitimate concern part of it is the stairwell and part.

the penthouse area on the property line in overlooking i know fairly private area of their home kind of their balcony over the master bedroom >> so you're asking the solution there, too. >> i, anywhere the 5 feet but are having a problem with our stalker internally. >> the 5 feet will not be difficult on the east side we'll need to going back go back because of the stair wicket to kwooep keep the geometry in track and almost removes that staircase we have a find a place for the stair but if we can put that on the west side that can be solved. >> okay. i mean that's where i would go i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to

say. >> commissioner moore. >> since four story are typical for the area my own preference would be to really keep the building in what it is, however, take the four story off i believe that the glass yet nature the penthouse actually exacerbates the problem of what i think that inadequately for this area you have minimum lastly pollution and indeed the quietness of buildings which don't mc themselves seen from the distance that's the character as you move close to the ocean you read about the left to right pollution in larger cities this is the exact example of what i wouldn't do i happen to live in a rear of a building in the adjoining street many years ago probably in the 60s a person was

able to build penthouse on top of the this and lit up at night the entire mid block i live at the edge of the mid block is lit up bedrooms facing the rear of the building and at night it aborts the hell out of me since we don't use fully black occur tangles but one building lighting up the entire surrounding area because that is take our in my case is disruptive to neighborhood character i believe that it detracts from the neighborhood as a whole even seen from the water side so i'm personally not in favor of seeing the penthouse particularly not in the placed form and i didn't believe that is typical for this area as

present by mr. williams the building itself and the new building is not as much concern to me the privacy issues which are exacerbated through the penthouse sitting where it does are of concern to me together with the glazing the impacts of the flea glazed even if it, it is move forward 5 feet will not be diminished you have a larger home so i will be prepared to look that we take the opinionated off i'm not opposed to the modern impression of the building that's a characterize question don't have is over i don't think that the california energy code applies to the front windows isn't that correct mr.

williams. >> what is allowed to be done. >> correct. >> that's where it stops for us because from the building is code compliant with the respect to the energy code more of an architecture expression not as impacting a matter of taste and so i'm basically asking that we consider moving the penthouse altogether. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> a question two questions first project sponsor if we were to look at the building permit is it an alternative or demolition. >> a demolition. >> if you reads the comments on the dr requesters stuff it says along the wedding facade the glazing walls not in keeping with the neighborhood character the west facade should be treated with the same level of the details my question the next part amount of glazing is

disruptive to the neighborhood character and reduces the profess to the just a minute building and recommended that the expression will raise the frond facade incorporated to the west facade the front facade is more glazed as the percentage of the front than the west what's wrong with how i'm interpreting that. >> it's design and the front facade is done in 3 layers the lighter stucco and the textured and the layer of the windows the whole idea the lair of 3 materials and that same unique on the west side it is repeated so in fact, the same detailing on the west side and the front the original 311 was one big sheet of glass. >> that's what that is referring to i get it something inconsistent any other comments i make a motion to take dr and

eliminate the four story penthouse. >> second. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to a motion there is a motion that has been seconded to take dr and eliminate the four story commissioner hillis no. commissioner johnson no commissioner koppel no commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong no that motion fails 3 to four commissioner hillis and commissioner koppel and scombloshgs voting against an alternative >> i feel that the need to remove the penthouse it is big and boarded i did not feel a midway point of shrinking it to an incredibly nice jewel viewing box i appreciate on the roof especially at night as opposed to an open space deck he can't

make the motion but support a very, very small penthouse almost elevator power point. >> commissioner hillis. >> i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say but the 5 feet get to our concerns bringing it from the side were there is not a stair will be the most helpful when you go into more 3 and a half feet from the west side you start getting into the staircase and maybe having some inability to drop this to the 2 feet level so, i mean that's where i'll entertain this notion of i get commissioner moore's vocabulary about that go house then the facade of the building but get the project sponsors notion they don't need the glazing in the back it does

what they say in providing light and air to the front of the building for the people in the back maybe the architect can address that did you consider a penthouse that kind of had more of a vocabulary of the building and not kind of a glass building inspection commission on top of that perhaps on the east and west. >> this is a design issue handles both ways with the vocabulary we used regarding the planting for the building we automatically feel more glassy on the top and the glassy penthouse there's the light pollution on or about but they are dematerials this is one peg backhouse on a house we try to stay away from to me the

beneficiary impact the vertical walls on the east and west side if little penalty were to setback and given only 7 feet high off the - been will be light at least disdisruptive i appreciate that makes more of a house but that might make that worse not better. >> yeah. i think we empowered in a lot have how's that from the street two or three stories and in addition fits into the height limit but ask them to set it back this didn't read a four story house but a third story i'll be supportive savings account 5 feet and 3 and a half feet from the west i'll move to take dr and propose that. >> is there a second. >> second.

>> commissioner vice president richards. >> a couple of things i'm struggling a little bit here we've taken roof decks off houses this is a roof deck what a roof we're not getting into the weedsing of benefits it is a nice place to put a lawn chair it is an amenity i hear what the other commissioners voted no, he understand that but want to come back to consistent we take off roof deck by a penthouse is says not a living space an amenity no bedrooms nothing no programming here i see that - >> roof decks we have the eye limit. >> i understand i'm going we've taken be roof decks off two commissioner president fong point of view if we do do a penthouse roof deck with a lid on that the size of the elevator shaft i can support that that is small enough and obtaining

terrify enough you'll get my vote. >> commissioner moore. >> i feel we're for these mr. butler to ban what we did a were but that's a discussion about what we do in architecture history what i'm missing the building is for the designed in a context that supports the penthouse as it is securely designed even the architecture design of the building with a justified idea with small business something on the roof but moving that 5 or 3 feet he feel losses credibility i'm speaking in defensive but to order has to be rethought instead of negotiating three or four feet i'll not support that

we'll not do the building any favor and innovate making a better building that's basically my opinion. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, there is a motion that has been seconded to take dr if and reduce the rooftop from the penthouse on that motion. >> commissioner hillis. >> commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar no commissioner moore pufsh no. >> commissioner vice president richards no and commissioner president fong no. >> that motion fails 3 to 3. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i move to take dr and paragraph the penthouse no longer than three hundred square feet that's one six accounting the size of it is 10 by 10. >> you may be give them a little bit more than that.

>> one and 60 square feet. >> we can go larger 15 by 15. >> get a lot of seat in there. >> do you have a thought. >> i want to address commissioner moore's comment i understand let's not have the compromise throw the baby out with the bath water i compete i get it but it is a reality i have to stand here and doing the best we can i think something north of 200, 200 or 275 remember we have to bring up a stair and have a place for a democrat or two people can use the space i wanted to distinguish between penthouses and other power points we had this discussion of penthouses over 35 feet our sensitive this is under the height limit i want to resident that i know you know

that i think in response to commissioner moore's comments we can make that look good from the commission we received today, i know that will help the neighbors you've heard from on both sides but like to get as closed to 3 hundred square feet. >> us being here so late let's see what we can do i'll prefer to be resolved amongst the folks we don't live there the dr requester has a good argument and not one or the other but a reasonable solution in the middle if it can be one and 50 or whatever i last week the solution of dialogue between the neighbors to come that helps us solve the issue. >> i don't think we can redesign the building. >> i agree but button no

grandchildren figure and would you speak louder. >> from the commission as setbacks we discussed in an earlier motion staff will presenter having that information as well. >> be centered more than 5 feet. >> definitely more than 5 feet. >> commissioner hillis. >> can you tell us the size of penthouse. >> 5 hundred and 88. >> that includes the space over the stair as it comes up. >> 582 including the space over the stair. >> what's the space over the stair. >> let me get if f that for you. >> another design element you've been deliberating is obscure glass solves any of the problems instead of the

reduction of the penthouse we'll be happy to entertain that adding the - i understand reducing the square footage will stay on the table but mitigated with a stair glass that's a discussion i'd like to have too. >> from the square footage is there. >> go to a-2.2 with the square footage. >> the stairs a little bit shy of one square feet. >> the penthouse space over the starve is one square feet. >> what i'm calculating the space that the stair takes up physically to get to the top i'm

not including the space is for the necessary. >> yeah. i mean, if you do the math and take 5 feet - 3 and a half feet off the west side 200 plus how big is our penthouse. >> right now 582. >> you're down to 430 but a lot of that there's that pretty large area the penthouse over the staircase. >> that's right i think doing quick math thirty percent off - >> that penthouse is a terrace. >> again, i prefer i think the 5 feet and the 3 and a half feet does that but not through auto the square footage that feels for negotiated than you all

thinking through the size so i'd rather not do that and look at it how the space works over the stair. >> we'll prefer the 5 and the 3 and a half is the limit that's the high impact dimension. >> that doesn't pass. >> oh, sorry. >> may i suggest you can do both no closure than 5 feet to the property and maximum of whatever number i don't think the commission purview is how they design it is their problem in many ways i'll suggest to you more than 5 feet from the edge or 3 and a half feet from the other edge and the maximum whatever it is. >> we're guessing to three hundred. >> qualifyly is it 350 i'll suggest not qualify actively.

>> if it is at 580 your capping in and a half they're not to make a horizon or vertical. >> we need to remember in in addition to the penthouse there's a large deck the penthouse is an outdoor area leak a building on top of a building basically more than half of the roof dedicated to deck and penthouse so i do think we need to basically have the penthouse together with the deck that coma reasonably area of the roof that can be occupied if you occupy the roof versus the green roof as mr. butler calls it i believe

that that particular aggregate of deck and penthouse should be staying at a minimum 5 feet away from both edges and constrict itself to about a third of entire roof area i'm eye balling that we're occupying too much of the roof if we allow the four story addition to happen by that i think we're leaving a sizeable penthouse or a very sizeable deck and the combeens of the two will determine from the building part was the deck was enforced. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> what's the size of roof mr. butler. >> the entire roof is-29 foot

wide by 67 foot deep building so whatever 29 times 67 is. >> have 8 hundred square feet of roof deck and that's large. >> i have a question about the roof deck this roof deck is not visible to anyone and it is setback and actually more attractive than not having a roof deck i i want to put that out there the planting of a green roof shouldn't be restricted that's a good thing. >> so 25 what was it 26 by roof sorry. >> sorry 29. >> by. >> how much. >> one thousand 99 square feet that's the total square footage of the roof the terrace right now are half of that you the penthouse and

terrace. >> right. >> 26. >> 27 by again 29. >> 8 hundred is the terrace combined. >> 783 the question i have the stair the one square feet for the stair it unusual wide stairs or what - how far above code. >> they're not above codes we've sandwiched the penthouse low to floor height less stair. >> the roof is roughly 8 had out of 19 hundred square feet and i think that is close enough what's the motion? >> what's the motion. >> there was nun. >> only. >> no motion. >> we said the stairs with one hundred i'll make the motion to have the opted out roof space no

more than 4 hundred square feet one for the deck and three hundred for whatever else you want to use it for . >> it - with the 5 footed setback. >> that's within the 4 hundred, three hundred and . >> your stairs are included. > in the three hundred. >> yes. >> 4 hundred in the 4 hundred. >> wait a minute, i heard you say three hundred max for the. >> three hundred minus the penthouse is 200 square feet. >> so for the stares to get to the occupiable roof and 3 hundred more square feet whether roof deck or penthouse or a 5 foot setback our choice. >> three hundred above and beyond the stairs for the opted

out roof whatever that looks like in addition to the 3 and a half to 5 foot setback. >> on each side. >> then requires the stair to be relocated. >> 3 and a half and the 5 then. >> has to be - >> is that clear to everybody. >> i have a quick momentum moment with my client. >> if you go 7 feet from the the west side you'll shave off one hundred square feet of the deck if you went 3 and a half feet you'll get it becomes 4 hundred feet on the penthouse bring the terrace back it is already 3 feet per 6 feet on the west side the stair make ups one square feet our down to three hundred square feet on the terrace but know what the

building looks like. >> so we have 3 and a half from the staircase side and 7 feet - >> he hear you let's let them let's take a break we want to hear their comments as well two seconds time out. >> give us one or two minutes please. it's early. >> it is early (laughter). >> excuse me - are the commissioners able to answer any comments. >> public comment is closed. >> thanks okay. thank you. >> second the motion.

>> 4 hundred square feet total including the stairs. >> with the 3 and a half and the 5 foot setback. >> that's the penthouse. >> the whole roof they can do whatever. >> commissioner moore. >> we need to make sure the stair is moved off the property line because this is the entrudy factor of the dr requester and we all see that so we're resizing the penthouse, the stair that current gets you up there still has to move. >> how would you like the motion amended. >> mr. butler understand that but the stair can't stay where it is it has sfgovtv we're back. >> same 3 numbers i want to make sure we understand the maximum development inside and outside on the roof is 4 hundred square

feet. >> that's my motion with the setbacks. >> with the setbacks and the setbacks we were talking they want to 7 on the side. >> 5. >> that's fine within the 4 hundred one hundred is exterior residential design. >> no, no whifrn way. >> a 4 hundred interior space. >> that's my motion. >> but the stair has to be moved from the property line. >> the stair 3 and a half feet. >> no 3 and a half feet back my understanding 3 from the east and 3 and a half from the west 3 and a half feet from the west you'll be moving the stair 5 feet and 5 feet the roof will accommodate 5 feet off the property. >> i'm pushing back on the

west side from geometricly. >> commissioner moore. >> can you help. >> ii building that the roof should be moved open both sides 5 feet if anyone in the future ever want to do something on the adjoining property you have to have the proper respect for them to do what you don't want to happen to you equal setback if both sides and want to make sure that we're pulling the stairs to the penthouse off the property line because it is where the privacy is effected pope coming up the stairs can still a lot through. >> both sides of house are 3 feet after the property line the 3 and a half is back 6 and 8 in a city last week this detached

neighborhood ample numbers i'm sorry to be pushing back about this but for us earthly things change a lot from question go north 3 and a half feet on the west side. >> a fair amount of separation not a shared lot line and share our concern about privacy but there is quite a bit of distance. >> all the rest is understand. >> jonas a motion. >> not seconded. >> second thank you commissioner koppel the motion to take dr and approve the project with the following modifications limiting the rooftop or power point be that a deck to 4 hundred square feet and that space be setback 5 feet from the east and 3 and a

half feet from the west. >> at least. >> on that monoxide commissioner hillis. >> no commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore no commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes passes 5 to 2 with commissioner hillis and commissioner moore voting against commissioners that places us on general public comment there are no speaker cards. >> any general public comment okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> i'm sorry director rahaim. >> commissioners i'm sorry, i should have said something earlier he wanted to make a comment about post-election and not to comment on who won or lost but a lot of concerns raised and a lot of issues and frankly staff was there was a lot of wanted to let you know there's a lot of very concerned

people both in the department and from e-mails and comments we've been getting and he sent an e-mail to staff yesterday kind of with a couple of thoughts about how to move on and consider had was coming in the future with an simple we do our best work when we listen to a difference group of opinions and want to encourage staff to make sure we 3rer7b9 the fact in spite of the government is broken and government is the fact the value of public service and what we do we are very much valued for what we do we don't always hear it and the polar san diegan is in your work we do it best we listen to the diverse voices and move forward with our best work and best planning.

the city i'll say i've already heard many concerns for example, the gentleman that runs the city's office of immigrant foyers people are afraid of being deported and things are happening in the city two days after the election it is incumbent to make sure we are frankly maintaining as the mayor calls it san francisco dna and being a sanctuary city that welcomes everyone and welcomes a forgives set of voices and reinforceing that and geneva going on >> the way that commission functions celebrates the diversity we can voice each other opinion and say i understand where you're coming

from so good job everybody. >> thank you for that reminder. >> okay with that, the meeting is adjourned

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>> good evening, and welcome to the san francisco board of appeals. the presiding officer is commissioner honda and we are joined by our vice president commissioner fung and commissioner lazarus and commissioner swig we do expect commissioner bobby wilson to be here