development center to identify potential for employees provides removal classes and offer interviews with the future hotel additionally, we have as i understand a neutrality agreement with local 22 and using a general contractor sorry i have to read this so much that is important so - >> in terms of our key part of our community benefits package has been the development of a free nonprofit space at the taylor corner we looked at numerous nonprofit 150i9s and ultimately selected magic that had the ability to create a wide range of free and inclusive serving programs with their 50 years of existence they fit with a long time arts commitment to

the site and have the ability to develop a sustainable program a local cafe partner will be identified which will offer reliable products to the community and the nonprofit patrons there by suhr the daytime and everything sites so in terms of lgbtq you know we've heard a lot of them today, we have also pleased to be working with shawn an lgbtq historic expert on the lgbtq interpretive program and charged shawn with pulling together the community advisory board on a contribute to the lgbtq history while the gay bars at the site closed many years ago we believe in the importance of how are you the lgbtq history

of local neighborhood we have offered to provide free funding and programming support for yet to be identified lgbtq serving local businesses you know after the conversation today, i think what he want to assure - okay. >> do you think i should finish the presentation. >> (laughter). as i mentioned i have a strong passion for the art and proud of no matter agreement with the arts allows the fees to be dictated to the arts effort in the neighborhood and the balance of half of the fees will be used sovereigty we're the first developer to do that if we think the neighborhood around us is important, important why steve will talk about the affordable housing >> thank you. >> quickly commissioners before we go the architecture i the president to comment on the

ordinance that supervisor kim has introduced as the staff mentions the linkage fee was even correct we ask you reduce the amount of jobs outside of the payment by $4. million, and, secondly, in disagreement the ordinance not be waived the one $.7 million is important to make the jones project work not would you tell us the waiver - but for the delays of the negative declaration we ask you make the recommendations to the boards i'll introduce the architect. >> i'll try not to take up too much of our time but quickly through the architecture an important site not only a bridge deny market street and others tenderloin neighborhood but we

also see that has a gateway er introduction into the dealer and arts district with the theoretical and the golden gate theatre nearby as well and then quickly we want to focus on the ground floor we really wanted to make that connection between market street and turk street and do that by using the hotel lobby as a mid block passage that connects those two streets together we walk to the hotel lobby anchored by a open space plaza that pleasing is activated by tables and chairs on the turk side we're trying to envision the streets and give it more a pedestrian experience and providing open space on the rooftop that is also a lounge and open to the public on top of

the hotel and provide a rooftop amenity for the residential portion as well this is part of exterior design the building we wanted to take cue from the surroundings facades that is primarily a masonry and punch window facade. the context of the building and we brought that into the project but want to give it some special a gateway into the arts district and so we applies more of a scoopal texture this is sort of our interpretation of what those punch facades were in the neighboring building and this is you 4i6r this is a flat iron registration and want to take advantage of that to announce the presence of a must building one the arts district

here this is a view a residential side of the building and on turk street we worked with planning to get to a solution initially in december we had come to planning with a continuance wrap up around with ours encouragement we looked at a variance to try to differentiate in june at the bottom with a scheme that shows a blended scheme that transforms the residential facade into a more of a recessed and different hotel facade and then again also with the encroachment we took it further and do a we express the facade two completely things hotel and residential with that, i'll just leave you

with some of the images going across turk street with go different facades >> sir your time is up. >> thank you. >> okay that concluded the project sponsors presentation opening up for public comment (calling names). >> commissioners if i may we network to introduce april who supported the legislation. >> good afternoon, commissioners again april i am here on behalf of the supervisor kim i know she'd be here if they were here but i'm here in her place and wanted to priority context for the legislation that is before you i think a lot of the issues about this project is really about how to develop in the neighborhood that is vulnerable to displacement not just residential displacement but commercial displacement and displacement of our cultural assets in particular in this

site and in this area the lgbtq asset that exists and so this legislation came before us at the request of the community that is concerned with providing affordable housing that is relevant to the existing neighborhood residents the existing neighborhood residents felt that there was a need for housing that could provide a ladder to the existing community that could provide another opportunity and more, more affordable housing than would have been proposed if it was or would have been delivered if onsite this legislation attempts to address the housing piece of this project to make sure that the community can take advantage of this development in terms of its housing

i know that the supervisor is committed to continuing to work with all the stakeholders obviously this is district 6 and everybody who is here or month everybody here have constituents and stakeholders in our district project sponsor the project sponsor supporters and from the previous discussion also the lgbtq community and so i think tour commitment is also to continue to have those conversations as this project how it moves in the legislative process i wanted to provide that. >> okay. thank you very much. >> any other presentations from staff or office okay so with our permission opening it up for public comment.

>> good evening. i'm kevin the executive directors of the hotel council i have the prestige of working with the hotel and hotels in san francisco our organization and our boards fully support this project on 950 market street one of the things that is exciting a mixed use project in addition to welcoming the visitors it has housing and the art and nonprofits and retail in an area that needs revitalization so we think a way that group i approaches this in working

without taking into account the full account how this improves the area hotels brings jobs into the neighborhood see this project is working on the jobs in the hotels it is something for us as an organization hotels bring a twenty-four hour activation had helped us in the neighborhoods well our hotel guests spends more money outside the hotel i've heard local businesses that will benefit from that and small businesses not to mention taxis and other businesses that will benefit from bringing in visitors and group i as i mentioned working with our organization we'll encourage you to move forward this and look forward to this project to help with the

revitalization thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon my name is tim, i appreciate our attention thank you, commissioners i'm a 12 year retained leave live a block away i'm a member of carpenters local 22 i'm a carpenter it will help the community especially in the time we need more housing we want to see that press forward thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm carlo a field represent for carpenters local 22 i represent approximately 35 thousand xarptd in northern california also close to 4 thousand of carpenters are members of

carpenters local 22 some of the members as you can see are here today, we are in full support of group i's project for the following reasons first and foremost to center a general contractor to build this this creates many jobs and pension funds for local san franciscans this project will serve as a gateway for san franciscans to enter in an apprenticeship that paves the career pathway it is projects like this it that gave me the opportunity to paved me the way to be here as a union representative speaking in favor of that project and finally this will help to alleviate much needed he housing with 32 hotel rooms and the development teams

is dedicating their lands and providing fee payment and $2 million gift for the construction of 100 percent affordable housing complex that creates an additional 50 to 70 below-market-rate housing and this is a united balance of jobs and hoosiers that san francisco carpenters are ankle to build we irregular the planning commission to approve that project and push that forward today thank you for your time to allow me to speak in favor of group i's development. >> good afternoon. i have to say good evening this is - the local hotel union workers or workers the project sponsor has worked with our gown u union to

would have a neutrality agreement that agreement is a protective the workers right to form a union without harassment hoping you'll hear anything a hotel project is up we've been an example for other developers in providing a path for workers to form a union that is a stable path for good health care and benefits and respected voices on the job port purview as you may know is the analyze of the quality of jobs and the impact of the given jobs on the neighborhoods and so infrastructure the purview of that we circle you to support in project and look forward it to be approved today thank you for your time. >> i'll call more names for the next banish

(calling names). >> please line up on the television side. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is judy young i'm the executive director of the vietnamese youth center before i share what i received in the community i want to share a little bit about myself i came to san francisco as a refugee in 1981 we the on turk and las vegas worth i've been in the neighborhood for 35 years and seen first hand what living in the tenderloin is like for many of the 15 thousand southeast asians that came in and out of the neighborhoods limited hours and yerba buena support and limited access to social services so i - used to be a

client and went through when i was 14 and helped me to get a job and go to college while i got in lived in the tenderloin we serve over nine hundred youth and families and people to speak in front of you today, i'm here to support group i's work we worked with them 5 years they've not only supported our programs with urgent youth doing art advocacy and showcasing through the youths eyes they will be supporting our youth with jobs our families, our young people that don't have the language capacity we're here to urge you to support group i's project thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> game-changer commissioners i'm chris with the vietnamese center the appointment project

manager currently, we serve many in the neighborhoods and throughout san francisco almost 200 came into from the tenderloin itself first to the project not only helps the neighborhood itself but mobiles the community to center access to the jobs and training to the affordable housing opportunities so to represent a community that has historically lack of access and under employment and living situations there is up to 20 people in one studio bedroom we support this initiative thank you. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> mr. gilbert. >> overhead, please. >> okay i like the project equip i think that is a big wall on market

street i'd like to see that changed a little bit i love the mixed use hotel strangers in the neighborhood by healthy feet stepping on the sidewalks day and nitsd i'd like to change the article a tad whoops. >> go ahead am i short time. >> no. your good. >> communities i like two percent of people that will move on into the place those are low income affordable veterans that are basically homeless graduated fosters kids and seniors and section 8 those are part of community epa the tenderloin in the building now those will not think condo but

somehow associated northbound and the next step up condos future police and fire and city and sewer workers and muni drivers and people that are part of city those are dedicated pots meaning if you don't have the right price on our condo they don't get sold the price has to come down to the people in the neighborhoods the next 5 percent is thirty percent san franciscans seniors that want to get out and get both a nice piece property 15 percent if you're a 20-year residents in the tenderloin those are dedicated homes again, the price is determined by what at the developer want and the communities can afford next step

thirty percent this is 55 plus we can help seniors move out and in the next thirty percent open market the benefit of this all the property owners will lose their tenants as they move into this and those property owners can get a boost up by getting in any tenants at a higher rent and it generates a movement one the tenderloin that keeps 9 tenderloin part tenderloin thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon

i'm loretta the artist director i'm hubd in support of 950 and in support of the space within at the beginning of any ongoing tenderloin listening tour trustee terrance allen shared the hefty of the neighborhood and even though first to tell me of a decade-long violation to get the neighborhood used an alternative path for the future that really spoke to me after graduating from college i taught in a future in miami and independence from - i witnessed the power of theatre to alternate the carriers 6 those young people's lives some are writers and painters some of them learned a trade and made a good life they gains discipline

and a voices through theatre theatre cultivated their imagination to enlighten possibility and taught them compassionate our intention to make this revised vision a reality by making the largest concentration within the tenderloin magic lab offering them a home that helps them to homes on it is a public theatre with a 50-year track record make relevant and executive work with the world-class writers we work diligently in dialogue we need a track record of giving access to students young apprenticeships and those around the process are the first to be hired and

employment opportunities that on stage and off and summer to add to the summer programs for the employment ofo students from the vietnamese youth center. >> ma'am, your time is up. >> you can submit that if you like. >> i'm a college theory project and a africa theatre employee i'm in support of market street magic theatre getting the space the reason why i left the college by chance i found a creative outlet and shortly i entered the magic theatre and never left owe - from that moment i had many roles students and volunteers and leading students after a

season the development i thought invited to an artic slipper my season as is literary apprenticeship was incredible i learned about the daily tasks required to make magic happen but i had an opportunity to have shows i was influential selecting works for development and read more plays than my entire life the extensive reading by international playwrights and as a writer gave me a better understanding of the art throughth experiences he grew as an art i'm grateful this season i'm officially an employee he can't say express how it any time and create this as a

theatre professional and deeply appreciative while magic is my home he hold positions at to the theatre companies including shock and berkley and a boon to theatre in oakland we believe this space will allow magic to impact many for young people affording us to the opportunity to develop our skill into the next generation of theatre making a thank you very much i'll call more names please line up on the tv side-thank you ver i'll call more names please line up on the tv side (calling names). >> hello, i'm a lady college

theatre project alumni and a current production for magic when i entered laney college 3 years i found so much more in a direction since the death of my mother i found a passion part of family was the africa theatre i came in on a - i walked out with a good gpa vufb i made the stage manager whether i asked for advice she asked if i wanted to shadow her they introduced me to amazing artists and prepared me for the reality the shadowing as stage manager i produced two shows, etc. currently i'm managing my 8 show on eddie-taylor i've never felt so at home and learn something everyday and to change the

subject this not just about me a lot of the work outside of the magic is from to the theatre i walk to and from work there is a deep desire for the productions that bring the people into the neighborhood we need to bring down the barrier between the neighborhood and the magic shows are popular in the east bay i have known about the tenderloin will appreciate the similar opportunity for inclusion thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon at the thank you for the opportunity to speak on behalf of and in favor of the magic theatre and the 950 market project i'm evan a three year san franciscan i work for salesforce as a solution developer and a trustee of magic

clerk erica major college when i was a troubled youth not hellos e realizing how good i had it theatre was my family i support the lives role in the 950 market magic because of commitment to tackling deeply relevant challenging efforts to effect change our deep relationship with laney correctly is an example of larger commitment and magic lab is the extension of that program the allow us to embrace the tenderloin and the young people that participate like the wonderful young people will find their voices and part of our magic family i look forward to embracing them thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon,

commissioners my name is bruce i've been working in the construction industry for over thirty years and lucky to work in san francisco exclusively associated with vefr over 5 thousand housing i'm here to speak on behalf of 950 clearly it is fantastic for the construction community and will create over 14 hundred jobs during construction it came back easily impact of the neighborhood can be easily made mitigated with the construction throughout the city that is common everyday through the project will entering allergies mid block and the tenderloin the hotel will deliver permanent jobs forever in that area a fanatic addition to the city the market-rate housing and the below-market-rate housing is socializing needed so i'd like

to again support the 950 and thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon or evening now my name is chris thank you for the opportunity to speak i serve as a trustee on the san francisco art institute i've seen her commitment and living in the bay area i see development good and bad? one of the good ones people want to gain the system and fulfill their responsibility but by the same reasoning good development needs to be encouraged at 950 margaret urban renewable and community - commitment to the performing art and little commitment to a collaborative art program in the neighborhoods and preservation of lgbtq

history, and a commitment to lgbtq business in the area and millions of for housing in the neighborhood in group i brings a mix avenue gender to the development gang is not the normal developer we believe this element in the team lends a sensitivity to the team that translates well, not the normal development you see a lot of sensitivity knowing nowadays people see this as a giant car sale and some are disappointed not enough room for all but this much that is positive and enhances san francisco do we patio need to improve this approach to a development thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> evening commissioners thank

you for having me. and thank you, commissioner thank you for all your hard work for due diligence for the technology cattle's of planning in the city i'm donald i represent the party of congress and we support building more housing in the city and the bay area to prevent gentrification in the community and building that building housing will keep people here that have been here 20 to thirty years this project is a model to activate a log and contribute to the community such as two-hundred hundred plus residential units that adds to the tenderloin the local property owners supports the youth and families like the clubhouse for boy and girl and supports united playaz for the playstations in the soma and also their working closely with

the tenderloin development project in the 2000 square feet size and the property owner will create the magic lab a tuition fee space to be trained as professional artists and acting on stage their e they've invest money in the program for residence of the tenderloin keeping people where they should be in the neighborhood please port this project thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good evening my name is joe i've been a san francisco since 2002 and been coming here for training i lived in the closest theatre not my type of theorist it is what it is the theatre has played a significant opportunity

given me my first acting job being part of family is a gift that continues to allow me to express myself he stand here with any theatre family to support the 950 project and the magic theatre the africa theatre develops an inclusive - the arithmetic mission to have unique story telling voices that has points of view 245e produced a piece compromised of filipino actors and voices that my parents who - the magic and it's communities were able to reach a new audience a filipino audience that seldom came to the theatre a cultivate it is no

stranger to outreach for the college in oakland attracts students the outcome is the same a thoughtful experience that resonates outside of the theatre box people will benefit if the theatre is able to activate the space please allow them to have a platform to create a place for story telling and life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is paramount they've been part of my world it is time for me to do the same and support them thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hello, i'm thank you for having us. to share with you i'm a proud career filipino born in san francisco and ample actor inform teaching as and kid i walked to

through the tenderloin and my grandfather carrying a trumpet hoping to find a miami session from all walks of life into the streets i wanted to share stories like this people like me are not usually foorltd the opportunity to share the stories and as part of american community i structural to find a home to have a voice for people under recommendations africa theatre helps establish that voice and provided that voice that have otherwise been silenced what is more importantly they've given the opportunity to access art and artists that makes them them relevant magic helps with that, i feel a theatre should brighten the community that serves imp what t the theatre could do

exists me for the - we need an ally to reassure the communities is not lost through the development the youth and people will experience the same actively creation of art together we can have justice and gain the skill to perform and it is my hope magic will be for more people like me. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good evening, commissioners i'm here in full support of 950 and magic my name is and kelly i'm proud to be the patron

services manager for the theatre and a member of the africa family and honored to provide testimony for artists and activists and director of the 20 yields theatre he estates agency a native citizen and believable i'm appealing to your deeper sense of the arts in the citizens lives i grew up in the old mission district. >> sorry goose if you doesn't pull on it that will relax itself. >> it is also where i learned about responsibility our neighborhoods that get changes and bought and sold and stories about them how one survives and adapts by beyond sooifl thrive in our city we can do this through inclusion and gifts the intend to is full of hardships and possibilities still so i

urge you now to invest in communities true community and the arts live art one of the realities ways to remember we're in the seam world together through story telling me telling the africa theatre is a lifework was it stands for anyhow reaching out into beating the tenderloin part of our city that gives us hope please weigh the power of omi o opening the doors not 40 23w50 grand the power of story telling magic has that and eve to give that why not want the magic theatre to be in our neighborhood and not share our spaces with the actual people of the neighborhoods that is what the magic is planning to do not while the story to be under represented which is what the africa will do and of the

productions that can show the neighborhood give them a piece back to them with hope and possibility and community i know it can happen that happened to me so, please help make more of the opportunity witheatre. >> i'm curious us the president of the east tenderloin representing 15 hundred tenderloin residents and a long time tenderloin i live in an sro and on the steering committee's of the people's congress a coalition of residents only organization and here to talk about and one of the market street 950 coalition it helped with the agreement i'm here to

speak in support of this project it is what the unique opportunity i can't think of any promotions that really actual residents like might have at the negotiating table from the beginning throughout the process to negotiate with the agreement and as representing how to represent the - we met weekly and had those members of the committee to negotiate and discuss the terms of this agreement and i was agriculture to take that information to the people congress on a monthly basis and update the residents on the status of new york city and that that feedback to the negotiating table and sit down with the developer and workout the terms of this deal that represents a board basis of the community and it's desires i you know things the core values affordable housing is much as possible in

the deepest and the jobs for tenderloin we've also got communities serve appreciably in the liability space and for the communities serving nonprofit and a host of things a nice sizeable creating historical relevance for the lgbt i permanent respect this is been a long and thoughtful process and lots of engagement i urge you to approve this project. >> there are a number of speakers cards i still have i want to make an announcement in light overflow room 416 and a number of speakers in support of this project that have spoken wearing the stickers on our shirts i want to give an opportunity for those to make

sure that everyone will speak to the at&t this late hour there is childcare if you're in support of this and want to raise you are hand go ahead and do so now - okay. great you still is where an opportunity to speak but make sure we gave that opportunity go ahead thank you. >> hello commissioners my name is gail and i'm also part of the 950 coalition i've lived in the tenderloin and reside and eagle hotel i'm a tenant organizer with the sro collaborative since allison park been in the tenderloin i've looked for jobs and few and far between at least good jobs when we heard about this project the hotel great

jobs for the residents there in the tenderloin and then we heard they signed an agreement with the union we were excited we emigrate together and spent a lot of time and effort to train the people to be well qualified when the doors open in the hotel and luckily we have an excellent hospitality group that does training and good relationships with the hiring staff of the hotels and also, we have group i is spending an outreach program and training program so all of this fits together well and it is an excellent opportunity for the tenderloin resident to get good jobs we support the 950 group i project

thank you. >> good evening commissioners i'm a san francisco resident and here on behalf of joe the director of trust arts commission she wants to have their statement delivered i wish to convey the art commission for the contribution to the public arts trust group i to the content for that being the first developer to propose oozed the trust to support the trust to access the public space and contribute to the this seismic time unquote is consistent with the developers in section 429 of the planning code it their contribution will be have a considerable impact in the

tenderloin one that had support are temporary supports for the construction two group i project includes a nonprofit hub at the corner of taylor that will be utilized free of charge by a local nonprofit theatre location for youth and adults and provide a space foreclose theatre production and a amenity for the community 3 additionally a portion of one percent will be distributed there the arts process to support the art programming in the tenderloin group i project will significantly contribute to the vibrancy of the art community and set a precedent for other

developers to follow the arrest reports thank you for your consideration. >> good evening, commissioners and fellow people i'm kim i'm also on the board and with three or four deft continent organizing groups i was privy 0 so some of the new york city and tenant one of the community meetings group i and unfortunately i don't have good to say i'm an artist in the community i have my own group i run each month and cove with another group tenderloin artist guild i preached the i grew up they knew about the area he was told that we were not orchid enough and that they needed someone in there an organization

and brought in an organization not from the tenderloin and have not reached out to the artist of the tenderloin so i hope tha will change now that they have gotten what we want you hope the affordable housing stacy affordable to those on the streets out through homeless because the pricing let's face that the lgbtq community it was about not losing a place but a place for gathering for people to have a $2 drink now that drink will be $20 really this is in the about the community this is about i grew up, i found about the community yes. i was attacked by an in house supporter my community came to my aid yesterday and people in any building the people outside of my community we fwartd together the real roots of people coming together and being

about the real tenderloin i respected you but still not community oriented enough. >> thank you. >> good afternoon planning commission and evening now my name is kevin stall i'm a leader with the market street coalition i'm here in support of market project and talk about even though community space and southeast of turk and taylor 242000 area will be rent-free and helping the nonprofit for the lease terms for the next 10 years with an indefinite 10 year renewable the organization will activate the sfwrshgs of turk and taylor a hot spot for crime in a bleak place for years as a long time resident of this neighborhood for more than 10

years i've experienced the negative use of this space for a a long time until 3 years this area gradually approved and gotten more better with the new additions this dark spot will think brighter for the tenderloin resident i ask you commissioners to please port this 950 market street project thank you. >> good evening, commissioners i'm roy i work at the sro collaborative we're here to port in project a lot of things to be said about the development none can say the developers were not willing to listen to community needs i've watched over 18 months while the developers talked about with divorcing tenants and low income tenants our organization works with their remarkable responsive our tenants are not shows for

development they're generally skeptical of development they've seen what unthoughtful development does the neighborhoods and many are homeless and only recently found sro housing it takes a lot in this case 18 months of negotiation the tenants were at the table with the developers not only always agreeing but willing to come to an agreement they fully support and endorse they figured what the potential consequences and how to make sure it benefits their community what they come to they feel exciting the housing piece alone promising to commit on behalf of with the city requires to create housing others one 80 jones

they're working to make step up housing that is one of the opportunities to graduate the tenants to have their own bathroom individually the jobs pizza is unique this hotel can say thaim they'll hire tenants group i funds with $300,000 that is about outreach in the community and 4 raking reduce job track record getting good jobs we're tliefldz about those and more. >> >> next speaker, please. >> you'll call a few more names (calling names). >> hi, i'm if a library in

suppor of the - i went through a bad divorce he worked for 25 years had my own home and it was all gone i slept on a park bench for two months i worked since 14 and never needed to know about that kind of stuff anyway eventually got into the sanctuary there for 15 months and into an sro where i'm at now i get despondent and

hopeless you can't have kids your limit on guests and how can my daughter stay with me get depressed and a sense of hopeless ifness i was asked to join this project i finally had some hope in the fact of this step up program that they're trying to put in at one 80 jones this really gives me hope i may get a place were any kids can come and stay with me and be a family again so that's why i support that i think this project can really going to help a lot of people that there wouldn't be any other way for them to get ahead thank you. >> hello commissioners thank

you for having me. i'm stephen tennis i'm a native san franciscan and been a resident for the 25 years and i'm in full support of market street had hentd to be one of 6 residents on the 950 market coalition myself and dale and curtis and felicia and david and four other individuals and alexander for the last year and a half we've been in over hundred meetings with them our coalition 10 to 15 meetings with group i i'll thrill that is an exercise that is unique with the fact the tenants and

residents led coalition and i think outside the box is really the first in san francisco to where residents actually had a voice in determining exactly what you, get if a developer that was a great experience thank you. >> at this point any other speakers want to speak on this item line up on this side of the wall. >> i'm the community organizing and planning manager at the tenderloin development corporation i'm speaking on behalf of myself my organization and the 950 coalition you've heard several members we're here to urge you to approve that project we believe by bringing the project to 9 neighborhood our more importantly bringing a suit of community benefits that

have been forged through a community process over the past year and a half tndc we're not trying to chase anyone out the tenderloin is enough you've heard talk about renewable troindz is home to a lot of people that is important and the benefits that projects are hopefully allow more low income people to call the tenderloin hope we're proud of the benefit of developing 68 units of housing that will be more deeply affordable than if they're provided onsite we worked with them in the city and grateful for the win-win solution another community benefit we're particularly proud of is the construction mediation we own the hotel immediately across the street where hundred and 79 extremely low income individuals

live and go up i were acceptable to deal with the commodity of a surely long process so we're proud of those benefits and proud of engaging in a process that puts tenant voices and tenants at the front we are grateful to them coming to the table and listening we urge you to approve the project. >> thank you next speaker, plea please. >> good evening i run the organizing program in the housing clinic today, i'm here to speak about - you've heard from our tenants leaders why we support this project i don't want to take up more time but

we're proud of this process we engaged our tenant leader that live in the neighborhood to put their voices forward so we're proud of that and hope you approve this project thanks. >> thank you good evening commissioners i'm one of the leaders that she spoke about i'm also a trainer for the san francisco police department cit crisis intervention there is the first time ever in my life i've spoken if a in favor of a large project authorization especially i've never done it ever i feel the benefits we help to negotiate with group i justifies the development of this project in a vulnerable neighborhood in particular because of my interest in deesclation training i appreciate the owners

willingness to provide the deesclation training it all the staff on the property and help to educate the homeowners about the kind of neighborhood they're moving into the fact there will be homeless people people about substance abuse issues and mental health issues the responded not to call the police but understand and work with the neighborhoods i appreciate that type of owner education that will be provided it is not that common right now and i think that i really think this developer has actually gone farther than many to address the community needs and negotiate with the community and really produce a meaningful project that will help people kids, adults, seniors and a variety of ways at one 80 jones and the deesclation training he support

that and again i don't believe i'm up here assessing that i support that (laughter) wow. unbelievable i did it i said it okay. >> it's go good to know the mvp would decenturies 2007 turk and taylor oh, my god a disaster area i'm on the board of north america the tenderloin economic development project is our project we started by creating the tenderloin community benefit district we then turned our attention to the neighborhood needed on a 2007 maids the decision the neighborhood will benefit by the opportunity for the children to see something different out of their door auto

out of their door and from behind they're back pack from school tenderloins arts eased theatre we started on a grand do so project and the recession and the big market and everything went crazy here we are today with a developer we vested and with we have been grabbing at the pot time a part of it was able to maintain a strong are theatre and arts component i think that's why my board started this project and started to look for a developer to make that happen i'd like to see is, yes all 10 of us are apprehends this project and it supports and i look for you to confirm and allow this project to go forward it is one of the last

enterprises into the tenderloin let's make that great, thank you. >> hello, again corey smith speaking on behalf of the coalition and we've been following this site for a while and did a tour of this site we've watched this transform over a period of time it's been reiterated to want to fund an art district we're excited that continued with the vision here the transit you have a 3 part parking ratio considering the hotel and the sites it is pretty reasonable in our minds to the transit first policies in the city of san francisco the land dedication is a rare opportunity not to see changes and understand there is not going to be a ton of money looking at a few million dollars from the city to get the housing built we

want to encourage everybody to doing everything we can to make sure the housing units come online and lastly i've been doing this a year and learning how the process works and how to get people to influence you you've not seen 24 many people speak in support of the project i'm here for most of beg ones i think this says something their efforts should be rewarded and ask you to approve the project today and is there any additional public comment? >> not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> and we'll open up to commissioners. >> commissioner johnson. >> okay. thank you very much really appreciate everyone who stuck around and gave comment today actually not that common

that we get so much positive comments on large projects given continuing from our previous conversation about the tndc i have a few questions about this project but want to start off with that a continuation from the previous conversation one of the improvement measures was to put in a deft element within the project itself to commemorate the lgbtq cultural sits of that area we want to project sponsor to talk about how they plan to do that and then i think we'll have other questions about the more generally about the project. >> project sponsor here? yeah. there they are >> thank you commissioners

steve we're starting to put the interpretive program together were jan watson is working on that and convening an advisory group of lgbtq and interested parties not necessarily a plaque for interpretive gay but we're trying to be innovative more of we're open to ideas we don't know what that will end up being and part of a one percent for arts money we'll decade to that effort so resources both from our contribution and from the interpretive program and something that is interesting alive and continuing probably more than a plaque okay. thank you. >> okay. maybe more on that a

couple of quick questions before i pass the mike i'm not sure? project sponsor or staff i saw the number of parking spaces we have here about 80 for across the entire site? on market street and it is sort of right in that area there are multiple discussions over the years about reconfiguring market street and directing very well traffic away from this this is a tougher corner turk coming to market street that tough angle can you talk about why parking here i think there is proefbl some reasons for the commercial says that the hotels the rational in general this seems like a really tough spot to have cars in and out. >> the garage entrance is on temporarily street away from turk and market street it is on

the this project is replacing a larger parking lot more than 80 vehicles on it now it is reduce the amount of parking onsite as a negative declaration a study that look at traffic impacts and whether there are hazards created by the parking garage entrance on taylor street that's why there was a negative declaration and eir the parking ratio is a low ratio the roast i've worked an on a project in san francisco no parking for the commercial and no parking for the hotel simply a small amount of parking for the residential and one level below grade we that this is an appropriate amount the principle permit amount in the c-3 is 5

we're below that and that particularly given the sponsor for the residential i question the need for parking i have a low percentage of stops to units why has not any at all ♪ location but we might come back around that my final question there were some proposed ordinances from supervisor kim's office and there was planning department's recommendations on that ordinance and not sure you're aware of a few changes the planning department has recommended one on i don't know if so this the most important one but on the gray or non-portable water requirement that will save somewhat on construction costs the planning department proposed we not exempt this project from if requirement can you speak to why that was a factor in supervisor

kim's ordinance you know why or why not exempting or not exempting and again, i'll say gray water is important >> a couple of things one from the inception to the proposal was onsite inclusionary housing with the prop c trailing legislation or percentage is 13 percent at 31 units we were prepared to do 31 units onsite and the financial burden was a certain amount of money that was put into the performa when i communicate asked us to not do onsite they asked us to do

rent-controlled units we investigated that and found a site we could purchase and decade to built that offsite 61, 68 as opposed to to 31, however, the financial burden was substantially grandchildren onsite units to what supervisor kim worked with us on finding incentives to equalize the burden of ought with the land dedication and fees as opposed to to onsite inclusionary with the gray water the difference is north to $2 million to joy pledges to add that has a gift if we don't weigh the gray water it is up-and-up and up he within the even the savings is 3 and a

half million dollars bids that's part of the calculation the community and supervisor kim thought that was more important to get more deeply affordable housing offsite than onsite in the case we with have done the water and paid even though fee the supervisor asked us to visit the ought which is substantially more expensive and getting to equalize the burden including the gray water waiver it kicks in earlier this most on september 1st, we long thought to have a permit before november 1st the negative declaration was issued in january after an appeal was filed the planning department

and the mayor's office decided to withdraw that negative declaration and didn't reissue the negative declaration until july another appeal in july we've been delayed by 7 or 8 months another performa that compton compacted that. >> commissioner melgar. >> okay commissioner hillis. >> if i can follow-up on a couple of questions on the ordinance i mean one i appreciate your comments on the interpretation of the site not being static in a plaque by things happening in the tenderloin are still strong lgbt community and obviously heard that i hope the project

sponsor and you the planning department will be able to work with some of the advocacy groups here today to come up with something appropriate that living because is not just history it is here but on the ordinance i guess i'm trying to had had math and kind of reconcile what the planning department has provided us and like to look at cash to cash in one i want to step back and appreciate supervisor kim in the neighborhood and the developer coming together to try to find kind of a creative way to provide affordable housing we'll have a project one or two weeks we were getting affordable housing from additional height it is a trade off we've made

prioritizing affordable housing and deeper ami levels it is worth exploring and supervisor kim does great work in this area and other projects but if we look at kind of what kind of fees would be under the current rules there's the job linkage fields 4 police department million dollars and $15 million and then it starts to get gray that's 15.4 a pdrs purchase this chart is 2 point it gets up to $18 million. >> we've never proposed to fee out we never in any scenario proposed a fee out but a second column onsite unit that was not money tied in the chart doing

the onsite feeds to be compared not a theoretical fee the fee has skyrocketed and the onsite percentage stays relatively close we went from 12 to 13 percent. >> you suggest the fee out there the existing rules for 15 millions is higher than what the subsidies we'll be opt out. >> much higher yeah. yeah. >> okay and can i ask you the same question i i mean is that your take we see most developers don't inclusionary but have to look at the value of what it will be inclusionary. >> kate hartley. >> 0 there was a study by the consultant that looks the cost of development and the costs of

or the income of onsite far for sale inclusionary and what the developer will the trade off if they replace those units with market-rate, etc. from that study is valid the cost to the developer to do the onsite in the neighborhood of $13 million that's their lot. >> in this case not purchase the nc r. >> just another follow-up question give us from your perspective on the ordinance and kind of the two options under the ordinance. >> uh-huh. >> again, it was your general take on it. >> of course the sponsor can speak for herself the direction

to dedicate the land to the city mohcd will get income or get fee out we'll go through a normal rfp process into that perspective that is moses opinion for the community to have 68 residential units at 50 percent of ami some 31 onsite at 90 ami we think that there's greater benefits even if the developer fee out the units are harder to maintain over the long term we maintain them as affordable housing but their harder because of reich's homeowners duce and other things we know the community really supports this housing we think that getting 68 units in the community is good

there are uncertainties for sure you you know construction costs have rising and the financial analysis we did included to make it make sense financially that we will bring in veterans section 8 vouchers and that really gets us over the edge into a project if we don't get the vouchers we'll have a gap. >> you're saying if you get the land value at the $4 million you get 15 millions in fees for the project your costs to build a 60 or $70 million what is the gap. >> we're randomly when i run the numbers the costs between thirty and $31 million we can generate 15 and if we get the

vouchers as i mentioned we can generate $2.5 million and that leaves a 15 millions gap. >> all right. >> right. right so that's our uncertainty if we don't get the vouchers we want o can't leathern the debt but we want to acknowledge the community and 68 versus 31 is a good thing. >> the developer will actually build the units. >> we're not pursuing that option all over the place bring a nonprofit developer that is experience and the tax credits on the vouchers that's fine that seems to be clear and easily okay you know, i have the seam concern that commissioner johnson had about the

non-portable quart we're making a trade off to allow us to get additional affordable housing with less of a gap as possible. >> so i want to move 415 go ahead. >> commissioner hillis i wanted to say we're already talking to al and ron to start the discussion so you know i'm all for working with them to create a historic district and we're going to take our concerns seriously we'll work hard. >> can i ask about the design issues maybe from the architect this is on ongoing process are the designs up and mr. johnson

feel free to chime in. >> sfgov go to computer please. that's the original i mean this is been modifications over time; right? and that's the counties the notion i get it we face this a lot on large sites and how to articulate them and make the building feel more contextual. >> my concerns i tend not to like dividing up. >> articulating a building but an ongoing debate here we have because it is done in a way it still one building but we're articulating to make that look like two rarely works and there are examples around

this neighborhood where there are - there's buildings that are large-scale that have kind of quality materials but are represent testify flowed buildings like 200 building in the parking lot it similar to the large block wall buildings i want your take on - i mean, you're an architect we've seen a lot of work here good work a lot of the buildings you've did done what you know what are you prefer on here and y whatnot wanting to put you on the spot why do you think the building works not articulated not made to look or appear like two buildings will that be to anyone elective on a building on the

streets. >> in all honesty, as a design team rather than tracing to break that up to appear as two separate buildings the most challenging imagine if i can go back to the - >> a lot of concerns along turk street feels imposing on the edge we have a lot of relief towards the middle of the block we indent the street wall a separation between you know whether the feeling like one continuous building we provide that area there that relieves it of the kind of size and the other thing that lets us do we

provide a plaza at the base it is an open space along turk street we understand the concerns about the idea of trying to breakdown a facade or make the two programs different that is a mixed use project a hotel and a residential portion so we understand the need to differentiate the two we just originally shown a more opinion an eloquent approach of transitioning from a kind of agitated residential portion to a flater almost a much calmer hotel facade but the two facade building we work hard it is still fairly successful i don't believe it is a successful as a

strong concept that transitions from one facade to the next. >> okay mr. johnson if you can talk about those issues to me i'm not an architect but i sat on that commission for a while and dealt with the earth issues i go to buildings i think that have worked in the city and i think where we kind of placed around a lot with that notion of making buildings feel lake they are different i don't - i cannot come up with successful believes in the city i go back with the potrero community with the design and architecture where advocated for less it more if you look at historically there is a pattern of buildings their repetitive similar kind of

victorian and may not go an entire block but half a block i look at 8 octavia or with that project on fulsome some of the bigger promotions in the city they work with the repetitiveness with the materials quality materials it is where i struggle let's break it up. >> we've been struggling with that as well and been in the intervene conversation for about 3 years about half that that with the design team it has been a discussion simply breaking the box it is really been about how to successfully acknowledge the program within the building

to break down the scale to some degree and to acknowledge that there's a very different context open market than the tenderloin and the project has an obligation to respond to and reflect some of the qualities and traditions along the way we've explored a number of different options it is constituent having with the scale the two mass differentiate the program and the components of building we've worked on other facade studies it is break the facade down vertically and yet a better way to introduce the pallet of materials this aspect of the design where we arrived at with generally those

subtle gestures that are looking at the scale both valuable and across from the site we're helpful and appropriate along with the change of material we did push the project and consider looking for ways to even to a modified degree she thought the scales to help further as a distinct element that notion is not present in the current scale but pretty much where we've been and how we've gotten there. >> thank you commissioner koppel i'm open to hear about the design we'll continue and

possibly agree on i want to take a moment to acknowledge the support working through the packets there is many letters of recommendations from community groups business and labor groups not just the carpenters are here local 22 is here along with the local contracting businesses not only will san francisco police commission residents be involved in the jobs while built but the fact that will be partly a hotel is a big job creator so gomez go a long ways camtc from a labor background and wanted to highlight this building this will be big for workers and staff and reception employees

too not just a residential building but will house and employee people. >> i have a few comments and you know, i think the earlier part of this hearing in particular strong comments from folks and passionate comments we do believe that is their district their history i know that we've asked you a couple of times about the programming more than a plaque i hope you take that seriously and allow this building to be the interest point the beginning of the district i can see hotel guests into the hotel and really spending a lot of time whether in the lobby or artwork and understand where they are and the hefty of where their spending the night and given an opportunity to teach more about san francisco history in particular the cultural

district so i hope you guys execute that well with the communities. >> commissioner moore. >> i want to ask ms. hartley a question. >> i'm interested in trying to get a better incongruence into reality of the land acquisition project and i'm asking the question which reflecting on the shifting of washington, d.c. i think the vouchers come out of washington. >> that's correct. >> when you talk about when you acknowledge that together with the $13 million gap the question mark is not just $13 million but a far larger

question is that a correct interpretation. >> i'm not sure i understand the question. >> if you don't have the section 8 voucher the reality of the project is a large gap of the 13 in the scheme of things as we sediment the section 8 allows us to serve- it allows us to leverage debt with the vouchers if we don't get the vouchers what that means we'll not be serving extreme low income people we'll be serving people at an average of 50 area medium income that is low income but not serving extremely low income it eliminates the ability to serve a broader range of

households in need and then we also would not be able to support that we'll have a hole of somewhere between two and $3 million. >> i want to mention it because that reality is another problem which makes those discussion more complicated the problem i personally have the planning department solidarity is where it is at the project is rich in communities benefits and a lot of support and that is great that is just exemplar and wonderful, however, that leaves the emphasis where the rest of the community will be having to pick up where the jobs industry fees are not collected and the gray water costs are not met either that he is basically shifting benefits a negative to

the benefits and all of a sudden it is basically so what else is new i'm sorry to make that flippant remark, however, that raise large questions about the real depth of the commitment that leaves the rest of the community with uncollected fees and shifts the future i want to raise that has an issues no answers but leaves me in support of what the department says the other thing you talk about the earth that i hope we'll not all sweep up in one motion i continue to say issues with the architecture that commission moved the project into continuous because the uniformness and size of the architecture where the project occurs i believe that is as

market street as we know that will be alternated through a project that absorbs and aggregates 5 projects into one of the interest of the market street full of art is not as is snatch of the mega projects in the spirits that project didn't address a number of concerns that the commission had when we continued it and this is for the project to be more responsive to the particulars of where it is two sides and the eddy street side emphasized not the address of the project the project is 950 market street and that is where it needs to be play it's most powerful role it could be a back building to the eddy street side but on the market street side i believe the project i sat

in one meeting as i volunteered in the time when this project go came before the commission and commissioner antonini expressed interest he didn't join so i participated in within meeting where the department with myself witnessing clearly restated the urban design this project needs to address particularly how they address market street and some of the makings and scaling of the building i personally don't see a response to the challenges and i'm kind of disappointed the department was not able to take that much fufrlt i think this is credibly important site in the district with many buildings left with the - i think this as

this moment doesn't have the sensitivity to what is allowed i can't be clearer i'm concerned about the street the quality of this building parking space those buildings have a tendency to look dirty in no time their difficult to clean and adrenalin i'm certain this building will not be the shiny white building as presented today, the interior along the corridor, etc. is a maze of corridors on the inside remind me of a suburban shopping mall that is is a harsh criticism sunshine 24 should be playing a more active role how it meets the street. >> i'm sorry did i miss a

motion. >> schematics and i guess project sponsor and architect i want to peg back an what commissioner hillis said in terms of a tutorial by the boosters on architect we have to look at mission bay like that starts the conversation about the potrero hill and the urban design guidelines this question i have would be if we if you're project was ruin through the urban design guidelines sausage factory what would it look like and i'm sorry if you can repeat that. >> we are a new proposed residential design guidelines we heard concerns knowing that maybe i should direct how does the project meet the urban design guidelines is that covered on the project; is that correct. >> giving me a general sense

you don't have in in front of i flagged how the response to contacts in terms of scale of the object choice even if materials and the facade and taking away horizontally and vertically. >> is there another building in the city we can reference of this scale that you can like this building. >> yeah. i think like we take a lot of accuses from commissioner hillis mentioned the flood building almost exactly the same scale and height that strong concept of kind of a repeating pattern along market street and also around the flatiron corner that is a flashlights edged building with kind of a second story reading at the base we've

incorporated subordinate our project as well to continue that - we like to think of our project as a tremendous of that we utilities a punch system on the facades rather than a glass transparent shiny building and that's more in tune with the context of the site. >> uh-huh. i i mean, i speak for myself i'm kind of sick of the same earth we see because it is different it is big miff their handsome building this building has a chance to be handsome and timeless to commissioner moore's points on the upkeep ability of the white building with that what do you

think of that. >> we know washington technology has come a long way and design a lot of high-rises in the office and we employ this he's a punch window building a lot of the concerts are the same. >> one pay your fair share seemed he like hours ago the building turns its back on market street and opens on, on a smaller street can you comment on that. >> that was a mattered we're not turning our back to market street but definitely want to bring attention to turk street and connect to the returned to district that's why the plaza is on the north side of the

building to aid that neighborhood there i mean, i think that was a beg motivator to try to hold on to that mid block passage that connects market street to turk. >> a patch of open space on market street side how so that going to be activated that is intended to be a spill over space for restaurant and cafe use you know the retail use directly to that beverage gardens was part of programming also very similar to along market street we have a lot of areas they have encroachment permits that allows tables and chairs into the sidewalks that is a continuation of that encroachment and

wrapping up around into an open space eating area. >> one last question design focus on intervene it is late and the project level will benefit we'll talk about things that concern me if you had the chance to say you know we give you to get out of jail free card as a building to form into something you like better as an architect what will it look like. >> without constraints on there again, the original idea was a very saline last year wrap around and a wrapping up around the building that would be great we went through the process and listened to the planning let's create differentiation that make sense to do that it is residential and there is a hotel portion of that so we really

like the idea of transitioning between those two programs and expressing it on the exterior of the building. >> you did that with the change of shape. >> the change in facade a little bit. >> edges. >> exactly. >> we went through the geometry of the residential clouding and a - smoothed it into something that is flater but added shadows to the hotel. >> contextually at the 1028 how does that relate to a building roughly half the size 40 percent smaller than block size. >> i mean. >> that was one the concerns in the internal revenue for 1028 contextually how this fits

together. >> and intentionally avoided trying to be a class in the middle building and so, i mean forever that side that might have been okay. but for us we wanted it look like it fetus if the context maybe not a brick building maybe not windows but we wanted to have a punch window we wanted it to have materiality that was closer to masonry rather than the feeling of you know - >> i'm not wow'd by the hotel design i'd like something different but that is up to the design folks. >> commissioner hillis. >> there's some design questions that is hard to redesign a building or pick i mean it seems to me to be some

alternatives i mean - i'd suggest and maybe trying to fashion a motion that you know we recommend approval of the project and the ordinance recommend that supervisor kim or the board look like the value of the the non-restricted potential water conclusion as part of the package of the affordable housing and that's a recommendation i think there is some disagreement what value is of that exploration so look at that when the board takes up the ordinance in the design i gravitate towards the original tuned design and maybe something we ask the director to work on the design with the june 2016

the basis in a articulating that and perhaps invites a couple of us to work with them and mr. johnson the project sponsor as report back since it is coming back for approval. >> commissioner moore. >> can i clarify your motion want to go back to the single lapsing idea is that it. >> the starting point and ask the director to convene and invite a couple of xhifrsz in the past and report back. >> make the motion i mean ultimately you get too many people designing it is not a good product at the end and leave it to the architects looking start with the june 2016 as the starting point.

>> i'd like to direct the question back to mr. jocelyn do you believe over the course you developed after our initial let's talk about commonly held principles that the recommendations that came from your staff and yourself have been followed given what we see today. >> where that from our prefshg generally the answer a yes, we move the project further and that's a little bit academic you know we had that discussion about some other variances on this kind of theme we've arrived and comfortable this is why the project is here in that form and

in terms of this element we still had concerns about the entry subsequence on both sides of the building and both the plazas and again a little bit of talk about the plazas on turk and enough programming and building for this project to have two front doors in the way those potentially are appropriate right now we feel that the entries with not particularly pronouns and significant in idea of being able to read the - there's questioning around the small plaza on market business hours and food court is really the

answer there and the fact there is a connection to the lobby and other connection on the street are supports reactuation of that space that's a conversation we are having. >> a question we've touched on in the let's get back to basics ideas particularly the plazas on the market street side is the north side where seeking spaces much, much more difficult for all the other reasons as well the possibility is to send the project back to start with some of your own schemes i believe it is hard to go back to the june a lot of work has gone into this if you want to justify the june configuration then he couldn't support our motion anyway.

>> i want to clarify this is the first i've seen this design i was at a hearing this project was here and we a long time a looked at the - this is risky it is monolithic but we can go the path of at least risk and not sure that pays off i drive around the city and look at projects we approved or gone through the architecture gamut with you know community groups weighing in and departments i'm not sure they come out as good

as they should and aspire to tie in the architecture of the city let the designers design and let's a little bit stay out of the way the

>> in response to the fact

that we have historic buildings in larger and smaller intervals in this era which truly express the grain of market street and they have to you recognize will even if we do an ultra modern building but that has to have a [inaudible] and a scale expressed in the architecture that's appropriate and recognized of the artists and i don't think that building does that. i feel comfortable being in the conversation and i have been in the conversations and particularly, it can lock. in fact we made some wonderful steps forward uncertain buildings. not a lot but certain tweaks which it created better buildings including getting the office and egg knowledge that. just that extra challenge and working with the department and some of us has,

indeed created a better conversation about the building and i think we did not have enough conversations on this one and i hope there is additional chapter 1 we can have that. >> i will share my thoughts on design and i think that you can potentially overdesign especially a design by committee. i'm not an architect but am an observer of san francisco architecture. always, did i think stephen architecture is conservative. i personally feel we can be more bold and adventurous than some other cities take on some more landmark buildings like the transamerica building. i think this is actually a great opportunity to take a chance on some aggressive different architecture. it's not a skyscraper. this is a modestly tall building. i think it's unique in that there is these corner triangle lots and if you look at the flat iron buildings in new york were san francisco

the couple of building for example there's two different uses two different directions of traffic even. their monolithic. they match on both sides. so i do think church street deserved a chance to be the gateway off of market street using turk street to be inviting in that direction. so unsupportive i think of commissioner hillis is idea of getting this project through. it's a long road to get this far. to challenge it because of the design on one side of the building and not the other at this point i think is detrimental. especially considering a hotel is well some residential units out of this. so unsupportive of getting it through and maybe falling back to the thing it's the june version. i think a little more monolithic than getting a small group together. i don't think we should abandon but at a lot of weight on not [inaudible] probably million times backwards forwards outside of your baby staff as well. commissioner, from this

commission. . i think it's a chance to be a little bolt with architecture and again it's a medium high building. let's try it on for size 0 looks in san francisco. i wouldn't necessarily say this it was an aggressive skyscraper were doing to be so aggressive but i think-yes? i think it's time. commissioner richards width commissioner moore, if you can indulge us about what is the difference between the [inaudible] building of the june 2016 version? what is the difference? ic commissioner hillis heard him say we of the buildings just as i'm kind of rhythm that goes on for ever and this would be an example that other than an indentation on turk street and things you would need to figure terms of the entrances on market street. with design point of view. can

you help me their? >> are you asked me to compare to traditional architecture to modern architecture. it's a building off of the different skill with the building of a different use. the only thing i can say is that the older buildings are taller buildings where a larger number of buildings together form the sparrow or market street of san francisco. they'll work with each other by size and floor plate and a certain amount of ornamentation artfulness and dinner some fell into an architectural style which at that time determined there were similarities between open and closed. it was an artful use of materials. there was a restrained craftsmanship which was very strong in pieces and yet very powerful when a kind of created what many of them are back log buildings they do not compete as much and i think this building competes with historic context. that's my be