people who need access so crossing the lanes, the best way to do indications for both the cyclist and people that will be crossing them would be the best strategy. i like daylighting ideas walk sf mentioned as well. when you have people getting off on boarding islands and having to cross a poregz of road way i get worried especially when people are rushing to catch a bus. that is quh i am the most concerned so had you ever to figure treatment tooz reduce conflict is the best. >> i think this is great work. i oako what some of my colleagues have said. getting the word out about clear rules on who has the right of way in these situations if you have a loading zone or if you got people dropping off next to a protected bike lane is really important because i think there will be a lot of confusion so anything we can do to get the

word out out who has the right of way. it did strike me and cant find where it was but made a note at the senior center where they will be able to load in the bike zone. is that right? >> there are two types of loading zones thatd are prosed and very different businesses around so we were deal wg hotels and health clinics and so those locations i think the one you are talk about may be on 7th street and that will have a mid-block crossing that will be demarcated and have the appropriate signs to focus on where people are crossing and people biking across it should yuld to those people. >> really the main thing is i see a situation where someone is riged and think they have the right of way and other case thaiz think the-or dont know the pedestrian maybe sthra loading vehicle that is

authorized to be there so those are the things we have to make sure we have a clear idea. i have seen the treatments in other cities and they work well so feel good about it. >> thank you and thank you staff for the great work and comments that were made by the folks that came. i'm eager to find a solution and hope we can have you work with staff to address the concerns with the passengers in the guest in the hotel. i think it is something that we want to be able to support not inhibit. with respect to the rerouting of the 19 and the what i think you were alluding to mr. chairman, i doopt to make sure that we are effectively making it easier for people to get where transit is supposed to take them to go in a safest way as possible so not too sure if we need to change anything in the

way that the legislation we will pass needs to be stated, but i support the idea of making sure that we vetted all the concerns appropriately that have been raised by some of infolks that have concernwise rerouting the 19. the parking protect stuff, the bike lanes itself, full board like lets go with it. i know that that is the best way to ride a bicycle is when you are protected from moving traffic by the parking lane jz there are solutions to working out technicalties that i'm sure my colleague can attest to to get around the challenges, but one part i'm concerned about is the rerouting coming from some of our stakeholders. >> are we talking about 19 polk next? >> that was part of this. >> the alignment makes sense but wish there was a way to preserve the stop by the library. >> i wonder if we do the first

two elements of bike and parking and traffic modification and pedestrian and could we achieve that by taking that out for now to go back to stakeholders and see if there isn't a way to serve the library? that is lot of patrons and folks with disabilities too. director reiskin can you respond to that? >> sure. i think there is a way to do that, but let me first say these are two very significant projects together, major streets and the core part of our city. the changes proposed are pretty significant change tooz the way the streets will function and i just want to cu-mind will and the rest of the staff from across the agency the fact we have gotten to the opponent where we are cont plating major changes on two very significant streetss in the city and down to a few

issues that i think we can deal with. with regards to the hotels we had good suggestions from the holiday inn and mr. carol in way tooz enhance to make that work beyond what we have already changed based on the feedback so want to continue work wg them to make sure that works. and likewise with the new hotel, i think there is flexibility in terms of the size, the placement and length of the white zone and maybe other parts of the traffic flow that i think are solvable so appreciate hotels working with us on that. 19 polk it is quite a bit more challenging. before we move to delay that part i do want to reinforce the reason that the proposal has been made is that currently as you saw in the presentation, within one block

the 19 is transitioning across a very wide street. there have been numerous reported collision, which is not good for muni riders because when there is a collision there is delay. it isn't good from a safety perspective, not good for the other vehicle or vehicles involved. the second is that the 19 is one the vehicles that is making that left hand turn that a number of you spoke about as being a concerning movement as part of the market street safety so getting one large user of that turn off the system is another significant benefit. the following turn that the 19 needs to make which is greater than 90 degree turn from market to get to larkin is not a great movement for a large 40 foot bus to make despite the scale

of our operators. it was not lightly that we contemplated adjusting the routing of the bus. the off-boardings at grove and larkin are fairly significant and a lot of people do use that. i spoke to the city librarian who i have great respect for and some real concern about eliminating that stop. we also right before the meeting got a letter from supervisor cohen who represents district 10 which is where the 19 comes from urging us to reconsider that. i understand the concern. we believe what is proposed in terms of using the newly enhanced bus stop at mcallister and hyde does create for within enhancements we are

proposing safe passage that isn't significantly father but not nearly as good as the access folks have to be being dropped right in front the library. so, if the board wishing i urge you approval of these items. if the board wishes to direct that we delay the implementation of the 19 polk and explore work with stakeholders to explore other alternatives we can do that. i believe by serving under item 12 letters b, c, e, and l and staff can confirm if i gotten that right. we do want to make sure that we can-there are not any great easy solution. one alternative we didn't look at is move the 19 northbound route over to 9th street which would

give it a straight shot up. the downside is the busiest boarding of the 19th line is along 7th street so we need a lot more work with muni riders and stakeholders to understand what they are getting off and on to and from from bryant to market. it is a heavier usage parts of the line. that would solve the geometry issue it may not make sense in terms of riders. the trade offs before us we try to address as part of the over all safety issue, a real safety issue muni has to deal with as well. >> perhaps the way forward is to not sever the items and not approve them, but go ahead and

leave this all in tact, approve the whole thing and ask staff to please do what they can do make these intersections safer because i do understand the concern is patrons instead of having the stop in front of the library they have to walk up the block and cross that one intersection that has the pioneer monument between the library and the asian art museum. that is folten. then they have to cross mcallister and go down the block. or go down fulton and left on hyde. are there things we can do as enhance ment to the project to make those crossings safer and to make that feel better? perhaps we can daylight those intersections. perhaps there is something we can do to make the walk feel-if you come out

the side door on to fulton you go a block and a half to that stop. other things we can do to make the block and a half feel more welcoming and more accommodating. >> fulton and hyde had the cross walk upgraded and exploring daylighting. there are bulb-out installations as hyde and mcallister and can upgrade the cross walks there to the high visibility continental cross walks >> can i call out the other issue as a safety? not just these traffic conjungz but activity safety issue on the blocks. that is the issue. if yoi have gotten off on the block there- >> perhaps we can work with dpw to take a look at there

sidewalk lighting in the area because looking at it on the google maps earth view, i know there are those fikes trees that can probably make that sidewalk a bit dark to your point especially going into the winter months and in the evening. or, go along larkin and mcallister. i don't want to give us on the rerouting on the 19th polk when i feel like that issue is solvable. when that left turn of the bus on to market and all those other vehicle left turns are such a known safety problem. i feel like this is a ombiauns situation we can probably solve with a little work on those intersection. would you agree there is work we can do that wick make that more comfortable? >> yes and believe the city is under taking a study in the

civic center public realm plan so can coordinate with planning department and see what improvements can we made throughout that area. >> what ask the timeframe on rerouting of 19 polk? is that something anticipated to be quick or take a few months to implement? >> so, the 19 polk reroute i think the element is the near side stop at market and saebth so could be something we implement quickly if quee get that island out of the intersection. >> 9th street is there a way to do a pilot for a month or something to try that? i wonder-i know it is a lot of communication. i know it is interesting to know where people are going and any way to survey to figure out if the two streets make a difference like if people go closer to 9th

street. if it is a function of them wanting to be on those streets. >> so, i think it is something we can explore if we take our public outreach and engagement strategy and apply to contmplation of route change. it isn't something we can do quickly. it seems like this the options here are approve everything as recommended with perhaps direction that we don't implement those aspects that would require reroute of the 19 until we do more stakeholder work, or to remove those parts of the item that relate to the reroute of the 19 and approve everything else and again, we would continue to work with folks to try to find alternatives which could include rerouting 19 or address the things the vice chair was

speaking to. >> i prefer option one. i would like to approve in entirety and work towards addressing the concerns. >> i agree. >> i prefer to see elim nailt bc, e and l and return in about a month. give a chance-these are significant stakeholders. the library, supervisor and people we heard from. my preference. >> i would support that-in general and mentioned this observe when i heard about the issue is our pub lb facility making sure there is access. it makes sense this is public library to have support-same thing with schools and designing the networks to make sure the core public facilities are supported and accessed makes the most sense and so anything we can do to-i don't

how much time you need to get stuff done here, but- >> that's a good question. >> a month you have time? >> we may need a little bit time more than that. we are getting into the holidays so the ability to engage folks may be more difficult. in any case we would be able to move forward with the rest of this soonjure would need to correct if you go that route it is in addition to not approving bce and l we need to make remove language from parts of d and h as well which i can read and share with the secretary. >> i like to make that as a motion we approve everything with exception of bcel and d and h whatever you need to do with that and intent is come

back i say no later than 2 months. >> maybe give us 3? >> 3 months i think it will be more reasonable. >> i'll second that. >> if i could just make sure everyone is clear on what we are doing for the record. bcel and with d we strike the language the second half of d which is from the words larkin street on. the first time larkin street appears from that to the end of d we would be striking. with h, we strike the first part where it says 7th street east side from market to stephen son. >> we have motion and second. >> any further discussion? >> if i may, it is not very often that i just don't agree with what the great work staff has done here and i deeply appreciate all the work that has gone into this so far and appreciate the idea of trying

to expedite transit service in a way that is safer for everyone else and to curb the debhavior that is dangerous. that left on market and right back on to larkin is challenging for sure but as a transit rider having those stops in front of those facilities is really nice. it is one of the nicer experiences as a transit rider i have experienced. it is like the way transit should be. it is like transit needs to go where people want to go. it would be a shame to have to go to this route to change that and make it less convenient because as nice as we make it is less convenient for transit riders to access these facilities. because the rest of the city can't get it together to make a safe environment for pedestrians and what have you,

seems like we could do better for our transit riders. i would like to give due diligence to this just a little more. i'm not saying i'm opposed to this when it comes back but would like a little more thought and conversation to go into particularly responding to the supervisors concerns. this is in her district but the route goes through her district and lot of those riders probably use this line so want to make sure whee vetted this as murch as possible so appreciate the motion and happy to second it and again it is not at all a disservice or a questioning of the good work staff has done because this is the exactly the type of thinking we need to have to have these good conversations. thank you all for this opportunity. >> appreciate that. the intent is little more time to do something more creative but if it comes back i am prepared to

air on the side affsafety and support the project. hoping all the stakeholders get engaged in this and come back in 3 months. all in favor say aye? opposed? >> aye's have it. >> that is motion on the amendment. you need a motion on the item as aamended. >> i second the motion. >> say aye. the ayes have it. >> mr. chairman you need a motion and a second regarding item 13. >> motion on that? >> motion to move. >> second? >> all in favor say aye. aye's have it. thank you. >> with item 14 removed that concludes all the business brf you today. >> we are adjourned, thank you everybody.