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$31 million plus to the lowest qualified responsive bird the construction company. >> ms. ho. >> kathy ho for the infrastructure this project is to determine 0 existing facilities at the yard and to construct a new admin building and to have prefab buildings and 3 canopy structures 6 bids all over the engineers estimate and and consulted with public works their noticing the issues with they're building projects they're coming in over engineers estimates the funding from for this additional base bid will be coming from the water shed center for the time being and
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the water shed center the payment is looking at at the engineering to trim costs on the water shed center. >> okay. >> any particular cause for the increase. >> i think there is so a lot of building construction throughout the city so public works they're saying the bids are over because of the construction that is going on throughout the city. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioners. >> yeah. i don't understand so the water shed - the education center what's it called. >> the water shed center. >> so the money that's where the money is going to come from. >> the additional 5 to 6 millions. >> is that going to jeopardizes this project. >> we'll won't have a water
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shed center but value the engineering and come up with a more efficient way of building or constricting constricting that. >> i think also there are other projects that may come in and have contingency or because that is a later. >> - >> 09 projects so the a gm is looking at they're ten year capital to juggle to try to accommodate this construction as well as the water shed work. >> i'd like to at some point i'd like to get an understanding the where the contingency money and the prelims for the water shed that a great project i'll hate to see it compromised. >> we'll come back with the
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water shed center and have the monies how how it is looking like. >> thank you. >> i'd like to point out that this is a trend that we're seeing given the number of cranes and how much work is out there a lot of projects within the city not only san francisco public works but also the port mta, bids over the engineering estimate and also we're seeing fewer bidders they're to busy don't want to bid we were working on trying to resolve a settlement and you know negotiations not with the city but a private person to do work he was trying to get bidders and one didn't want to bid so this is really challenging and you
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know it is for me being with the city for 3 two years i've seen this cycle we need to try to figure out how we can you know position ourselves to at least be in a position you know where people will like to bid with us but the fact people are very, very busy we need to try to figure out you know we can maybe relook at our estimates to take into consideration. >> well, one thing there is not a lot of bidders so this is i'll expect if things are that tight you might have 56 bidders but there were not a few so keep an eye on i know at other times because of steel projects went up it is pretty clear reason why
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so i'll just you know - we need to revisit the center but keep an eye on the trends to learn from that. >> through the chair can you look at that. >> great. >> thank you. >> can i have a motion? >> so moved. >> there is a motion that has been seconded any any public comment. all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? item 9 carries. >> item 10 please. item 10 approve the specifications in the work contract in view of them of $29 million accomplice to the lottery quality and responsive bidder j m b construction. >> this item actually came in within the engineers estimate
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with the pipeline project part of the original wsip water supply projects that and this project will supply to m g d water when the project is completed we are putting out the - we are getting it done through the 3 construction cracks that is the third to do the pipeline work that connects the recycled water plant to little reservoir and pump station in golden gate bridge so the second contract that will be coming out for the treatment plant itself at oceanside facility and the third piece will be the pillage station reservoir in golden gate park we had to startle the contracts they'll all finish so we can get this done for the whole facility. >> is there any uncertainty
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about reservoir and pump station locations. >> no, because i think their modifying what is in golden gate park they've put in a reservoir their not fully utilizing i think most of agreement are being worked out and you may have approved them earlier. >> okay there's been some shifting of position within rec and park we're at the place to spend serious money. >> steve richie has met with them and this has not been brought up as an issue. >> commissioners. >> like to move the item. >> been seconded comment? >> all in favor, say i.
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>> i. >> opposed? that motion carries. >> item 11 item 11 a working group on the cleanpowersf plant. >> ms. hale. >> good afternoon barbara hale assistant general manager for power first, i want to give a short update on cleanpowersf efforts before we go into the details of the workshop and talk about enrollment and activities on the enrollment we continue to successfully serve our customers our may enrollment i have no changes since the last meeting we're serving over 74 active locations and the opt out is 2 percent so we've opposing to stay there on november one we began serving additional customers in districts 5 and 8 customer accounts shifted to cleanpowersf
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with the november meter reads so by the end of november we'll be able to report what our customer base we expect is that 3 thousand we are currently experiencing on opt out percentage of one .5 percent for the fall enrollment group we received i'm happy to report nine hundred and 27 up grades so we've reached the milestone supergreen is more than one thousand accounts thank you san franciscans customers sign up our the future exploratoriums we're the fact of the matter go 74 percent are
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supergreen so that enthusiasm looks like that will continue which is great on the rates - the california public utilities commission will be issuing a decision on pending pg&e rate requests and transition rates we know will change the enacts to the hetch hetchy customers will be small and the revenue will be neutral with respect to cleanpowersf we are expecting the cleanpowersf customers to experience a small bill increase relative to pg&e bundled service and newly until the next pg&e rate we expect to be an increase in the spring or summer so there will be a period of time where we expect our raised for cleanpowersf to be lower but the
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overall built enacts because of the tci a that pg&e charges our customers will be a small increase the proposed decision from the california public utilities commission is expected later this month on the issue we'll have an opportunity to comment on that and definitely take that the subject property and the puc will issue their decision rates will be on january one i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> on those topics. >> i have a question sorry. >> uh-huh. >> will the pc i a question be revisit for the rates or. >> the pcia is a piece of california public utilities commission december decision yes and we are on the cpuc front and
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on the sort of cost non-bypassable charges we're active in a working group that the california public utilities commission established on the formal the pcia calculation and together with the other community choice agree grandfathe grandfathers - the methodologies will which was and next for the legislation season collaborating on what sort of changes to look for legislatively to address various cac and investor utility issues including the sharing of investor utility costs with pcia customers so the plaintiff cia methodologies probably will not be finished or revised before
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the meeting on the rates; right? >> that's correct. >> yes. >> okay. >> i'm sorry one more question that 70 plus if so how does that complete with cac. >> that's one of the tops will be addressed if you indulge me the presentation we're switching into is really to see you know the effort is all about seeing how to accelerate the program enrollment throughout san francisco you know back in december of 2017 we presented you with a business plan that business plan had some projections and now looking at how to accelerate these revised you we'll come back in the spring with that plan
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commissioner vietor you asked more information during the development of the plan and not land the plan on you in the spring this workshop will be responsive to that request with that introduction i'm going to turn it over to responsibility over to mike our cleanpowersf director. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. >> good afternoon. >> i might not be wearing a chicago cubs tie (laughter) before i start, i felt like i'll be remiss not to congratulate you in the world series the giants fans acknowledge that but
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i was roll call our work basically a year ago and you announced at one point weigh launch the program and the cubs will win the world series they happened in the same year anyway congratulations offering great the presentation is focused on reviewing the work underway on the plan. >> i'm going to start with the implementation approach and a consultant of the plan and finally i'll share some of the research we've been doing with the cac programs some initial
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lessons learned and the next step in the process. >> so this should be a familiar slide from the business plan activities and updates over the course of the past year the goals the commission adopted for cleanpowersf and we endeavored to consensus with the balance to those goals for affordable and reliable services for the portfolio with the lower green house gas emissions and invest our revenues in renewable services and jobs, all while providing for long term rates and financial stability. >> and what have we done towards chief of police the goals first, the launch of the program with rates a quarter of
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a percentage after accounting for the fees that pg&e charges the customers second you adopted energy portfolio for the green product of 39 percent audible renewable with lower green house gas emissions overall and third you adapted a tariff an electrical vehicle rates and recently approved the steps for the cleanpowersf programs and we'll feet we are staff our staff works on the tariff to be made available next year. >> as you may know cleanpowersf launched in may 2016 it became the second enterprise program of a single or county and lancaster is the
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on that formed in southern california all other cacs are transbay joint powers authority and the startup for an $8 million loan for working capital and also 17 line of credit to secure the transactions and we established cleanpowersf as a financially straight exit to provide the transparent to limit the financial risk on the power and launched that has a 50 megawatt opt out raised we're projecting the program will be serving 50 megawatts within a year looking like we may go 20 percent. >> let's see -
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>> my colors get messed up but to help to guide staff in implementing cleanpowersf the commission adopted 5 best practices that cover the product content and the rate setting and phasing and the supply mettle and the reserve - all the policies are summarized but the narratives are included in the december 8, 2015 packet the rates have to compete or beat pg&e and established rates are
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sufficient to recover the program costs, power supply sources are sufficient for the demand that the program has sufficient financial resources to meet the financial obligations, and that the program has necessary staffing and support systems in place this is another slide we've cycled from previous presentations this is the note that cleanpowersf is the major initiative offering service citywide is an 8 fold increase putting it on power with the revenue perspective twice the size of water enterprise from a customer account perspective the
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statistics are in the bottom of the slide the account issue is a function of more multi family dwelling meters for electricity. >> the goal the growth plan is to accelerate the pace of growth in a financially responsible manner that is the goal that established ourselves this effort to do so the growth plan must answer fundamental questions resolve restrident their suhr the program has the in the financial resources to increase it's power purchasing activities and organization alley handing growth and the metabolics to know when to hit
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the gas in terms of growth and hit the breaks for example the rate issues we were talking about before. >> will have holistic recommends we'll present to you this is a road map for program growth that identifies the environmental and economic benefits of growth and the additional power supplies to meet the city's goals a proposed schedule and approach to financing the additional power supplies and establishing the enrollment plan. >> and these boxes identifying the components the the subject property area of the components we're working on. >> before you go on.
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>> yeah. >> i have a couple of questions about you going on one the 17 credit when does that get paid back. >> the letter of credit is sort of the backstop it is available - the way it was set up it will only be used in the case of a termination when a default the city and cleanpowersf is in default. >> we've not entered into a credit arrangement. >> the letter of credit is j.p. morgan that instrument is available to the supplier in that instance. >> we're not going there. >> not at that point. >> the other piece as part of growth plan i want to flag it it
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came up before the actual product and increasing the greenness of that product question about natural gas and projections as the market continues to shift in renewables are more available and cheaper what that transition might look like. >> your anticipating a few slides from the slides don't address our questions ethic to claesht but as any questions for accelerating the pace i want that to be a component to alert accelerate the pace of the product while maintaining the product liability as well. >> i think that once we go through the rest of the other programs weighing we'll see they're able to accelerate. >> oh, okay. >> at the did it for a cost or
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rational for a reason. >> yeah. this is paramount to the growth plan we identified the goal as established itself as a vehicle for chief financial officer an environmental goals among others and the city has articulated a goal to contribution the electrical supply to one hundred green house gas emissions by 2030 and cleanpowersf is the means by which the city can really take action on that goal. >> more drarlg so that's going to be central to the growth plan and the gather source plan we do this year and every year going forward as market conditions change and the demand changes as
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well. >> okay. great. >> okay. so the development experience of other cpa's a number of slides summarizing the information on other counties have approached this the rates for the default electricity and the content of the portfolios the build out and compliery building and the approach to securing the financial supplies first how have the operating cacs been to program growth is this bicycle chart i'll walk you through how to read this chart fairly data rich this bubble chart is the growth and relative in megawatts
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the cac program is identified on the list and the year on the y axis they represent a phase of the program with the first bubble with program launch and the last added full-scale the size of bubble is the size of the program in megawatts and if it is a solid line around the bubble the phase is completed and a doted line indicates the plan or provacative it is difficult to see the doted lines are difficult and the megawatt values are identified in each of bubble sanborn map is the first program identified on the chart it indicates that the program launched in 2016 and we will expect to serve 43 afternoon megawatts that calendar year the phase one will be complete by
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the end of 2016 that's why you see the size growing to 63 megawatts in 2017 that is the first full year of energy on the phase one the remaining 3 bubbles in the green cleanpowersf sector which are for 2019, 2020 and 2021 show the additional phases projected in the december 2015 business plan to get to the citywide serve and you'll see two, that they are projected to be 13 megawatts at that time moving to the axis to the right the relative size of the cac programs and the first one is the lancaster that reaches maturity already and soma and mcare in the process of
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addressing community with the next year. >> right in the middle of the project is clean energy that launched in october of this year and peninsula what you'll see peninsula is planning a rapid planning growth in the process of carrying the resources to meet the projected demand of the additional phases as of this date peninsula planning on offering services to all customers in the service areas in 2017. >> a few additional observations once the fall enforcement cleanpowersf will an as large as lancaster and on with soma around the same time in their project development it will be the largest cac given current conditions when full-scale and the chart also shows how
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fast the peninsula relatively to the cleanpowersf business schedule and accelerating that pays by 3 years i want to emphasize our growth plan work is examining how we can expedite future phases of enrollment so we can bring the benefits of clear energy to san franciscans a faster timeline and in a financially responsible manner. >> moving on to rates - actually any questions on the last slide no. >> i have one - at build out you're looking at a fair amount of energy being served by the cac program how does that relate to the size of pg&es service
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area. >> that won't effect pg&es service area the cac programs won't principally because that service area is defined from the vantage point - >> from an energy perspective pg&e has published the projections they see 40 percent of their generation supply service migrating i believe by 2025 a 40. >> 40. >> how does that play into the pca. >> an important part because the issue at hand is that pg&e has made commitments on behalf of all the customers in the
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concept behind it is that the remaining customers are indifferent to customers departing for another service so it is important that pg&e is making the projections they'll saying they should be pulling back from making for commitments especially long term commitments to serve the customers that factors into the longevity of the cac over time to give cleanpowersf for example, we had customers depart pg&e shouldn't be ready to serve those customers and assessing the values take a snapshot want commitments of low migration for the customers departure and if it defines the cost ongoing obligations so again, it is important and it didn't
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necessarily effect the amount of pcia the amount is relate to the cost of resources that are in pg&e portfolio against the estimated value so what pg&e can get from the market in it sells those resources. >> are some of the resources available to us to acquire from pg&e or to obtain energy from them. >> pg&e has made the resources available for sale and issue offers and request bids pacific heights i periodically - up for discussion when it comes to how to manage the what we call the
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remaining customers indifference and fairness to cac customers and make sense for cpa's to buy the resources from pg&e. >> if they fit with our profile for energy we want in terms of the you know it is green house gas it seems to be a way of reducing their argument we can unburdensome of these. >> sure a strong argument for cac taking the contract costs there should be no cac costs. >> we'll urban design greener so some of those probably won't -
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>> yes. that's true the type of resources can be at issue. >> didn't you say the pcia wouldn't be affected and still be the same amount even if the customers migrated. >> the migration of customers didn't effect the sail of the pcia that's true i was trying to say if p cia started buying from pg&e their portion of the contracts that pg&e has secured on behalf of the cac customers and they were paying the contract price that pg&e is responsible for there would be no need for pcia. >> right. >> now the reason the pcia exists pg&e prices are expensive that brings the plaintiff cias
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prices up closure to where pg&e is. >> if they're losing 40 percent of their customers they should be pretty much less so the by cia should be going on dune over time what is included are long term contracts and much of that is renewable energy. >> they're still entering into but entering at a reduced rate right now because of the migration. >> that's right. >> well, because of market one clarification there the market for renewables has improved draeveng since pg&e has procured under the portfolios contract. >> but if pg&e didn't have demand bus customers are switching to cac they're not actually in the market at these
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prices. >> my first reaction when i saw the chart there was a lot of cacs radio auto out you expect there be be a congestion in the market that prices may go up bus of not only our prices but others. >> we're aware of and considering and alcohol monitor it is hard to anticipate now without having done solicitation refresher not seen the trend part of it, it is the state and the cacs are trying to build in any capacity on the margin our new projects and new projects are competing against one another to get those but there could be a pace issue where cac has won a certain amount of the
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renewable energy if their portfolios and others can't keep up that's one possibility and no anecdotal or no evidence at this time this is happening now. >> if i recall some discussion about trying to have the various cacs coordinate if purchasing the electives. >> so we'll have informal conversation how to coordinate and pool our buying power 80 together i think you're aware the cac has formed an association recently cal cac those radio did types of topics that come up with discussing the policy and regulatory policies that cac is
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assessing and coordinating i think there is a a real opportunity for cacs to look at how they might collaborative through the establishment of the sort of service oriented gp n to have greater quantities to drive down prices and offer certain services potentially call service services for example. >> thank you any other questions on this slide. >> okay. thank you. >> precede. >> thanks. >> monkey off my back to rates so the affordability has on a hallmark of each cacs product at the time of launch each cac has offered lower rates at the time
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of launch, however, most cacs recognition they're not in control of the rates making the representation they'll meet pg&e for example, times running the rates i should be clear that the cost to mccustomers have exceeded pg&e when finding for the pg a not - operating cacs tend to have competitiveness rather than beating pg&e with they're marketing materials. >> this slide compares the operating cac default with the snapshot of the rate difference for the e-1 the standard
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residential rate schedule for the investor and utilities for the default products that is cleanpowersf screen products the out liar is lancaster as i want to point out this lancaster is in pg&e territory they compete with a different illustrate and a lower generation rate and as a result their pcia rate is lower that explains the big difference in relative costs the chart indicates that while s c e is 5 percent of their total generation rate pg&e pcia is 25 percent of the generation rate pursue the operating p - cac
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are offering rates that are all about 5 percent of one another one 5 percent of one another i want to point out that part of what we're doing with the platoon a studying the costs of our fellow xeefrts and to better understand the expansions to help to spread the costs that is something we'll do with the performa analysis and i will point out that our initial finds with that scaling helps significantly in recovering the costs. >> okay. so this shied is not showing up well, i apologize for that but this is a slide that compares operating cacs electricity portfolio with pg&e's and starting from the
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left hand it shows pg&e's renewable content with a y to 100 percent and pg&e's is thirty percent renewable and 59 green house gas emissions free with 23 percent of that source from uniqueer and hydro if you move right to the right of chart you'll see the operating cost the first one is cleanpowersf and those figures represent the best current estimate given the supply and demand to state of what our content for the green default product will look like and you'll see we're currently project by project our products to include 40 percent bundled bucket one renewable energy generated from california
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36 percent green house hydro electrical sources that includes 15 percent aroused from hetch hetchy this year. >> and then 21 percent from other hydro traffic light supplies provided by the suppliers for for a total of 76 percent g h a content that 17 percent red there between and the other 24 percent if cal pine generating united this supply actually provides green house gas emissions savings when compared to purchases from california i s l and that is 10 percent savings. >> how long is that california contract for . >> 3 years.
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>> so the take-home message is that cleanpowersf is performing well as far when meeting the goals to delivering more clean energy to our customers. >> again apologizes for the light coloring but this is a forward-looking slide and i mentioned before the major part of growth plan will be identifying the rate and quantity in which we need to increase our content that goal one goal to chief a g h g free this is the pg&e projection of the green house within now and 2030 difficult on the overhead i
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apologize the y is the portfolio coming from different energy types of and pg&e is project by project that will increase from thirty percent today to 53 percent in 2030. >> and it's g h g 50 to 73 in 2030. >> in contrast the doted line shows cleanpowersf renewable default product if it were to maintain the 10 percent margin over pg&e that's essentially where we are we projected out to show where we are at which is 63 percent renewable and then the top line the green house commended it shows the green
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house gas emissions squeezed out the cleanpowersf portfolio over that timeframe. >> the growth plan is going to start to lay out the options for meeting this demand but i want to point out we're conduct a plan that provides for specifics to look at the optimal mix of the resources is and that's will be over a long term a 20-year and we'll be updating that plan on an annual basis. >> can i - before we leave i'll be interested i mean, i said subtly in understanding maintaining affordable how quickly we can move forward and meet that 2030 goal going g h g
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free and moving go forward with renewable especially with the success of the program that that looks like because the climate is changing fast and it is incumbent to make sure we get to the other side of the bridge maybe go back and put that in that would be great. >> okay. >> just a few more slides that is the comparison the build out and the complimentary programs that are offered or - to be clear this slide shows the gaps we are telegraph hill trying to fill the cac is not telegraph
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hill developing a program to the best of our knowledge and that cleanpowersf doesn't intend to offer the program i want to point out about energy efficiency the customers have access to city administrative code and program for the programs and we're planning to make sure that the customers are aware the programs to assess being a cleanpowersf customer didn't effect their goiblthd we contribute to the funds of the programs improving offerings to specific to customer needs is a part of cleanpowersf programs future and again what this shows is areas we're telegraph hill staffing today
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the takeaway the largest cac program is the locate offerings here and cleanpowersf is implemented two, that meter energy and metering we're in the process of developing one the terrace a balanced payment plan and ongoing payment the staff is telegraph hill working on those today and we have to make the programs available next year. >> can i ask a question about the electrical vehicle rate how do you see that structured is it too early. >> what we've done as far the electrical vehicle market is a developing market what we've done is adopted the rates that pg&e is offering we have a
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complimentary vehicle rate that pg&e is doing and they're two options and those options are intended to support different aspects of the market both - but with the goal of charging at appropriate times we have you 36 tend to have a different profile they discourage on usage an area that will be cleanpowersf will be good grounds for policy making in the sensed as we better understand the electrical vehicle market and the customers needs cleanpowersf is tailor their rates for the time of use they con assume electrical vehicles are a sector of the market for demand response and
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it is something we can fill the box on the electrical vehicle side. >> so pg&e lowers your rates if you charge between 11:00 p.m. i think 5:00 a.m. but your rate overall is - we have electrical - electricity lower in that sense so i'm curious to see what that looks like down the line and car sharing hoping that electrical cars will be shared this is the best city in the world to have electrical cars and a later discussion other plans for charging for people this is the structure and demands but love to see that someday if so it practical. >> an area we're in active discussions not only for cleanpowersf but for hvlt public utility services we have
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electrical charging stations and are working across the city to look at the best practices for extending the infrastructure and bringing our green house hetch hetchy power supply to that market so i think definitely intend to be more information on that. >> thank you. >> i was surprised out how the electrical vehicle rate if you get the preferable rate mooifrns are required we're at home during the day and actually cheaper to keep it under the old plan i charge my car at night so for anyone that is similarly situations as us to the early morning hours and not compare during the peak it takes a different kind of structure. >> yeah. i think that you know
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it does speak to the evolving market a lot of research how customers use the electrical vehicles when they charge what they're driving patterns are, and you know, i think this is an exciting area for us for cleanpowersf to really actually move the green house needle further by not just addressing the electrical supply but also to address the transportation sector but i think another layer there will be looking at the cleanpowersf demand characteristics and aggregate and trying to direct consumers to the times that benefit cleanpowersf overal program from a financial perspective. >> okay last but not least we
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are looking closely at the credit requirements be associated with the growth all cacs have some form of financial support from the local city and county member agencies with the transportation authority or private lender had distinguishes out the usage of a lockbox of escrow account every other cac launched to date has utilized the lockbox to have the startup supplies cleanpowersf uses the letter of credit we discussed before and twerpt launching the cleanpowersf a year ago only a couple of suppliers with the box and the city of lancaster established the first multi party lockbox at the valet the
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peninsula adopted the multi party lockbox for example, and cleanpowersf opted out to use a line of credit to launch the program quickly and to be the best competitive we only have a couple of supplies and wanted to reach as many supervisors to get a competitive offer for the supply costs the lockbox has been critical to help to chief and plan by paid programs as a result the evaluation of the lockbox option will be a key program to our work going forward hello. >> okay. >> so what are how findings
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and next steps we're very much in the startup mode we can claim that the program has been a success thus far we've launched the competitive rates and fewer green house gas, however, we'll be bringing more information on the performance of the program over several months as the year concluded and other cpa's use lockboxes to secure payment to suppliers without injuring the cost to the supplies that is representative in the comparative chart with the extensively priced lockbox are a key ingredient for more radical scaling than cleanpowersf projected in the business plan which was really an organic
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growth using the program revenues and additional collateral through a letter of credit in addition to your consideration of lockbox arrangement re developed the recommendations and conduct further analysis to understand what the program financial reserve should be and adjust the program and reserve policies to get - give the program more time to meet them for example, and other renewable energy like category 2 renewables how much do we expect those to meet the growth rate a communication outreach perspective and power purposing and financial purchasing perspective and critically what is the staffing report to insure that we make no
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compromises in customer services and capability as we expand and with that, don't forget to join cleanpowersf. >> thank you. i noticed one of the bus stops in any neighborhood has a very nice large poster that advertises definitely it is very good. >> we initiated an campaign that includes the posters they're very nice. >> thank you, commissioner any questions. >> i have one comment. >> first of all, thank you so much for your hard work i know that commissioner vietor was a strong advocate and but you guys
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played pokeer and had to show your hand against an occupant that didn't have to this is very, very masterful i think that i wish chicago could have something like that this program the way you guys were aggressor aggressive and thank you for the advocates this is a great year thank you very much for your work. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> public comment. mr. brooks. >> good afternoon, commissioners eric brooks sf green party/our city/sf clean energy advocates. and grassroots organization of our city a lot of hats as commissioner knows i did a deeper dive into the baseball
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met for i spent a lot of time growing in chicago i am from california i used to be skeptical i believe in incarceration i've been waiting one and 8 years not only in my lifetime for the cubs to win the world series the met for is great what we've achieved with cleanpowersf and the cubs winning the world series that is fortuitous but the world series is taking building renewable efficiency and the focus it program needs to have going from this point forward we need to win our up and down the is not
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pg&e but the climatic change that will destroy that pg&e is a good picture for the bad guys but the bad guy is the climatic change like the baseball team to win the world series against the climatic crisis cleveland is apologizes to cleveland you have to have an entire team of 9 positions to win the game you can't just say all right i'll try putting out a pinch and try a shortstop and make them a catcher and maybe we'll add some outside fielders and base men later in the game if you do that you'll lose the game and again, the game is building renewables not just - we need to build
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local and other renewables so standards touch on the edges we really need to do focusing on getting all the players gathered and working together we have efficiency renewable and solar and wind and regional wind and demand response all those things being planned as a team effort in a network of resources all put together that all go out as a planned thing where a coach plans a game so we're getting the best economies and the berries integrations of the resources together and putting the whole team on the field is our fight again, the climatic change and beat the other team that's it cubs win. >> thank you mr. brooks.
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>> see i've always known he's a great guy. >> jason fried, executive officer. a whole heck of a lot it cover in 3 minutes i'll do my best first of all, some of the things commissioner vietor i agree we need to go as green as possible one our program has a restriction how we get our electricity are all the restrictions needed they're keeping us in the way of having a more money important build out and more money for efficiency and as well as more money to go out address find on the resources of renewable energy that work perfectly fine climatic change is an international thing didn't matters where the green house
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gas - we need to have a contribution into our grid but taking a serious look are we regulating too much where the electricity comes from that hampers our ability to get more electricity within the last week i got an e-mail about a program they're getting rebates for people and helping to pay for the installation of charging station within our property we should be looking at ways to do that not only are we encouraging people to use greener trouble to our ability to get people to electrical vehicles helps to grow our energy needs but cleaner electricity and getting them off of dirty fossil fuel i'll
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encourage us to look at there's a pilot program but want to take into account that as well getting into some of the discussions we are going on around the long term contracts from the p cia i know your monitoring that one thing the deblow plant closure that can be impacted and one thing to keep in mind you don't need to go out and get contracts but the old contracts that i'll defend pg&e for a quick second it is rare they were great and needed at the time but they're much more expensive and figure out how we balance that load for them without having them increase and keep the costs fair to the cac customers at the same time then the final one thank you to the staff their trier of fact to work hard but need to look at
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how we're getting money from the charge i can guarantee you the department can do programs better but right now pg&e gets to take the credit for the department of the environment but great if we got did money instead - so i encourage to look at that if we can get that money and not through pg&e continuation a better marketing program for us. >> i see some needing heads we'll be taking comments for next year for the world series and the of digesters completed. >> can i make a comment. >> so i appreciated the public comments and just wanted to first emphasis in the grow plan a couple of pieces will be great
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to include we want to keep an eye on the local build question having when some flight assessments might happen that's in the mix angles ago to talk about what might be the low hanging fruit with the local build out and to build resiliency we have a power generation and from a job perspective there is a lot of opportunity i'll thinking in the grow plan that would be great i'm hoping when we talk about accelerating the market mix as soon as possible for 100 percent renewable g h g freeze the question of restrictions i'll imagine will be addressed as part of that because they were reasons to put the restrictions on and some might be valid but
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when we talk about acceleration whether that is regulatory or otherwise to leave it - >> i want to point out we talk about affordability with pcia and other pcias are doing rec they have rates that are cheaper and at the same time, we wanted to do local build that are more expensive so we're still with that you know juggling act we're trying to do it responsibly and we look at the lockbox we can move towards but i think we agree that maybe very should look at some of the restrictions we have and the other thing you you know it maybe challenging to
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put the current contract and decrease the costs we may not be - below pg&e. >> right. >> so, i mean we have to revisit all of this i'm saying we're cautiously moving forward that's why i don't want to start building stuff and be more expensive than pg&e. >> yeah. >> that's why i'm saying you know we look at everything. >> i think this is some a shifting collapse the i can't do what we purpose pg&e assets as we grow our program it is interesting piece of mix and just in the growth or business plan understanding it can change to factor all the things it i
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dynamic. >> any other questions from the commissioners general public comment thank you all no action required on that item staff will be back early next year for follow-up. >> hi emilio nice shirt (laughter) okay. >> we're about to go into closed session. >> madam secretary call the items for closed session. >> item 14 unmitigated claim jason and selena and item 15 the existing claims along the martel and pro 21 will not be heard today. >> thank you any public comment on items to be heard in closed session? >> seeing none, can i have a
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motion? >> to assert the attorney/client privilege. >> to assert. >> move to >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? and that motion carries and we'll now go into closed session. >> mr. president, a quick moment for the crews to come join harlan and i thank you for honoring the world series champions they have - invite commissioner caen. >> can i vote. >> yes. please. (laughter). >> did you emilio? >> since you don't have a hat to we're ar.
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>> (laughter). with my we're back in open session. during closed session approved settlement on items 14 and 15 can i have a motion? >> whether to disclose during closed session. >> move not to disclose second and. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? that that motion carries and is there any other new business? okay i should annoyance that the next meeting on november 22nd is cancelled because of thanksgiving we've been setting up appropriate a meeting for that and recognize that is - a
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birthday (laughter) >> happy birthday. >> any other business before this commission. >> well, how about happy new year ray for the cubs. >> okay we're now - >> good morning welcome and thank you for being here bright and early on a post halloween morning and i hope
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everybody had their fill of candy happy to be joined by my chef deputy and city attorney bother working diligently on the case we'll discuss this morning and filed documents this morning as you may know a natural civil rights equal justice under the law filed a federal claishgs illuminate again san francisco amending the state money balances was unconstitutional it unfairly allows the wealthy to go free and the poor remain in jail it was filed two the city and city and sheriff hennessey oversees the city and county of san francisco jails was added and, of course, dismisses the claims against the state and city my office represents the sheriff's as legal counsel up until now in my office harnt
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taken a position since this was filed we worked diligently to look at the argument and what they're seeking in the value it of the bail law and hard work to protect the taxpayers from enforcing the law we successfully done those things and now the heart of issue the state failed system is unzuckerberg san francisco general constitutional people andrew's on suspension of a crime are held in jail unless at the pay money as collateral those amounts are a bail schedule and state law requires the supreme court judges in each certificate of occupancy and the sheriff enforce if you can pay you, get out of jail if you cannot you don't get out of jail that is a reflex to the
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community whether you can pay for your freedom a two tier stop one with money and one without not right and in keeping with the constitution it is time for it to stop to echo u.s. attorney general loretta relinquish no price tag on justice i believe the states bail system specifically the bail system before arrangement is unconstitutional that's why my office filed papers in supreme court we'll not defend that law we are innovate taking issue with the law but about the existing bail process prior to the point of arrangement at arrangement a judge has the opportunity to review the circumstances and make an individual bail determination based on all the facts a bail
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schedule that lists the price of freedom without consideration of the individual circumstances is not serving the interest of the government or the public and unfairly discriminates against the poor government entities in other states tackle the problem in lawsuits like alabama, kansas, missouri and mississippi and louisiana have reformed their action but my action is the first time that a government entity has refused to - dangerous people need to remain incarcerated how much money someone has is not picture measure of the 245e9 right now we have a system that someone can be locked up for days because they can't pay for your freedom and someone dangerous
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what about free someone for marijuana for sale can be locked up and not by a bail but someone paying one and 50 thousand can be out for rape that needs to change that's why we're taking this step this is decades in robert f kennedy were attorney general only one factor determines whether a defendant stays in jail not guilt or innocence but the nature of the crime not the character of the defensive that is money in testifying in congress the attorney general told a store 54 days in jail one person couldn't afford a bail for the maximum penalty was 5 days in jail two years later congress passed its the bail reform act in 1968 that
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polishes - the federal system uses a model that cantonese those people that are a flight reflex or danger to others maybe condition a dna sample or curfew and bail cannot urban design set in an amount a person couldn't afford in 1987 our society liberty that the norman and detention prior to trial or without trial is the exemption states, however, have not necessarily followed suit as an example report this issue by the nonprofit non-partisan prison found 6 hundred and 36 thousand people locked up and in more than 3 thousand jails in the united states 70 percent are held pretrial meaning not convicted of a crime or legally presumed innocent in
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february 2015 did u.s. department of justice arguing a bail that carding people before trial solely because of they're not able to pay for this is violating the fourth amendment the u.s. department of justice said they must not cause people to be incarcerated solely because they can't pay keeping people locked up for no reason they can't post bail has other consequences people loss jobs and family fall apart and taxpayers don't need this in terms of the current bail some h system is not only unconstitutional but bad public policy the district of columbia
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has been very pro-active in the area and don't use prearrangement bail it workouts well, in the district of columbia and in fiscal year 2017 the district of columbia were realized 98 percent avoided arrest for violent crimes and 88 percent made all air scheduled court pioneers that is an issue that has gardened national attention and the chief court justice convened a working group to come up with recommendation by december of 2017 to deal with that situation which everybody knows needs to be reformed we're hopeful with our action we'll give impetus u tuesday and make sure we have a reformation of a bail system no doubt here in california
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unconstitutional you may note a need for reform for the bail system and the laws governing it we plan on working with the senator to make sure that the today's action has impetus to have reform at the state level to have a bail system here in california it is constitutional and fair and workable and protects the public that is it is intended to protect thank you all for coming i look forward to any questions question. >> bob. >> (inaudible). >> there will be two options number one the states attorney general can step in and defend the snuflt of the state law or
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number two already been a motion intervened by and bail bondsman that motion was denied i would anticipate that they'll renew that motion either the attorney general or the interskweern and rogers will make that determination and i think that is likely they'll be someone to step up to defend the uncomfortably. >> (inaudible). >> no i don't think that is likely their won't be changes tomorrow are today bob alluded
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it to say likely that something else will make an effort to defend the law we'll have to wait and see how that litigation plays out this is a pretty good big statement the first time the city has stepped up it sends a message allowed there is changes in the future i think that at the lefrs the potentially or the evolve outlet there is a change in the system we have i don't anticipate we won't see anything in the self disease. >> not necessarily a call to action a concrete step it is a further impetus to a movement growing across the country there are other advocacy groups that have a call to action my job to
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defend the laws and what i think one is unconstitutional i'll not step out and defend this is what we're doing today. >> (inaudible). >> do you know what the plan say you guys are right. >> well the reformation has to starred in the state allergic i don't have the power assemblyman boca will be the leaders on the reform we'll wait and see there is a state mandate that each court system in each county as 5 bail schedule this is something that has to happen at the state level. >> it is been in - what - >> decades this is the current system been
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around for decades and it is the combrefrnd as i alluded to nationally robert kennedy was talking about this in 1964 this is the norman in the united states and it certainly the norm in california that is a certain a very, very good step. >> what happened everything you don't have (inaudible) i guess i'm curious as to the people that have the money they'll basically be required to pay. >> if you look at it - what needs to happen everyone needs to be treated fairly and equally under the law with the current prearrangement bail system a person who has the means just pays the money and walks out the as a matter of fact everybody should be treated equal in post arrangement bail everyone has
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their case yielding reviewed by the judge that makes a determination if they're a flight reflex what's the risk to sorority of that yield being out on the streets here in prearrangement bails we don't have that we need fair enforcement of justice to make sure that all cases with yielding reviewed by a judge who makes sure that that person does not pose a flight reflex or minimize the risk to the community and a variety of other ways in which you can assure that yield is make their court appearance and show up for trial i can have all sorts of supervision from check in these with the court to e-mails, to supervised visits to make sure that yield is supervised and make sure they're returning not based on money and everybody has
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to have their case adjudicated in a fair even way under the provision of a court officer. >> (inaudible). >> well, they're - >> the same standard or still have to pay. >> we'll have to see every case is jashthd should be adjudicated by a judge certain a bail might not a component but not only the with only way to pay and get out. >> (inaudible). >> the money bail is a bad thing - (inaudible). >> well, i'll say i'm not
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going to get into policy but certainly a prearrangement before a case it look at by a judge money in and of itself in our view as the only means unconstitutional what roles the money plays down the road as a component after a judge reviews a case we'll have to see but right now what we are doing to prearranging bail and having money and wealth the only dictator yeah. >> relative to the - a judge adjudicates a case well in a system you know each person stands out in - (inaudible).
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>> i don't think so no, no washington, d.c. public school don't does that the federal system does that and you know what i've got to say convenience shouldn't be the dictator of what is just and what sorts of justice people charged with a crime get we're all sdiermentd to equal protection under the law only if it is convenient it does not say or how much money we have that's right. >> you're referring (inaudible) we filed affirming today, we'll nobody be defending the case i'm saying that is unconstitutional. >> (inaudible). >> correct.
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>> okay thank
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>> good morning and welcome to the government audit & oversight for monday, november 14, 2016, i'm the chair of the committee supervisor cohen's joined by board member supervisor breed to my left is and by supervisor campos to supervisor breed's left our vice chair supervisor yee will not be here today and we will have a motion to excuse him but proush to that let me introduce any clerk mr. evans thank you electronic devices. completed speaker cards and documents to be included should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the november 29, 2016,
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board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> and supervisor breed can we have a motion to excuse supervisor yee. >> moved without objection and mr. clerk one the. >> the conversion to the short-term rental arranged to no more than 60 units from filing a private right of action allow private action prior to the final determination by the planning director and shorten for the praifrpt parties to file a action. >> this is sponsored by supervisor breed and co-sponsored before i myself and supervisor campos and supervisor kim supervisor breed the floor is yours. >> thank you last month supervisor peskin and i introduced this legislation inform place regulations on short-term rentals in the city
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the legislation informed by research from the school of hospitality at penn state university a cap on short-term rentals whether the host is present or not and grandfathered in hosts that have registered with the city at the existing 90 day cap for unhosted rent-controlled units for 36 hours cap for hosted reversals that styles the cost for department of emergency the violation of short-term rental law and empowers nonprofit that are dedicated to preserving the housing for enforcement of violated of short-term rentals law i've said we need robust effective regulations of short-term rentals and we need to make changes when something is not working as well as we know that should be we have far too many hosts not registering with the city and people
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exceeding or just ignoring the annual rental caps this tack critical housing units off the market making them unavailable for those struggling to find an affordable place it shouldn't be for lucrative to offer a empty unit as a short-term rental than to rent that has permanent housing for a san francisco family or resident i want to support the many san franciscans listening on this hosting platform to make ends meet they deserve the fair regulations within the process the host who have played by the rules and registered did so with the insures with the city and she we should live up to our public comments we need 0 protect the housing stock while allowing the residents to share their homes
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to insure the registrations are effective making nonprofit partners in the most egregious violators i want to thank supervisor peskin and our co-sponsors supervisor campos and supervisor kim i know we have a couple of small amendments i've defer to supervisor peskin thank you for everybody who expressed their support or concern that is a complex and viewing issue i'll always be ready to make changes had something is not working as it should thank you and i'm going to turn it over to you chair peskin. >> thank you madam president i was hastened albeit to see the words made by airbnb and this morning's san francisco chronicle about their willingness to work with the
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city and look forward to working with airbnb and other short-term rental platforms to continue those discussions as we move forward with this issue in the months ahead as to a number of - as supervisor breed said small amendments to the legislation that is before us based on some comments in the members of the public i proposed we amend the item that is because on page 4 at lines 9 and 13 to make the date november 1st tomorrow as opposed to the introduction that's to deal with individuals who had begun in and attempted to registration prior to the date of introduction to there were had how often of those individuals that will address
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them and on page 5 a clarification in subsection e on line 10 says the residential unit is an insert and the permanent person uses the preliminary residents registrations on the short-term rental registry are not transferable and only rae nude by the permanent folks not a property right it runs with the priest no, not with the property and deputy city attorney does it cover the amendments that - >> the additional amendments? >> good morning deputy city attorney andrew one minor
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amendment is that i believe the office of short-term rentals wished to include a clarification that anyone who having 2k3wr5ir7b9d in will not lose the grandfathered status with the third amendment and all 3 amendments are not substantive and can move forward today. >> thank you counsel as to the third amendment we support where will that be no see it our intention to include that. >> i don't unfortunately have a copy but come back as we so forth. >> is kevin imply the person on the - and supervisor campos. >> thank you mr. chair it's been a very
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interesting and difficult week for so many of us in san francisco and throughout the country with the location of donald trump i can't even say that as president of the united states and had a unity rally that supervisor president breed and mayor ed lee put together i was proud to be part of that it is important for san francisco to be o to be united against donald trump to stand together to be considered to be san francisco values we did that notwithstanding some differences we had with residents with mayor ed lee and one of those differences it that in the area of what we do with airbnb as short-term rentals and the point here that i and
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many have been trying to make we know that short-term rentals have a place in san francisco. >> we're talking about is striking a balance for some responsibility and specifically looking to protect the very limited amount of housing stock we have in the city one of the kind differences we have the question of what is the responsibility of those corporate players when it comes to reducing our housing stock and that's why this issue is so important i want to thank supervisor president london breed and supervisor peskin for putting in measure forward i do think it is about striking that balance lou gehrig's disease short-term rentals and having clear rules that limit how far people can use the limited housing stock we have this is what that is about and i'll is to airbnb that i
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welcome the comments from circling and others that said after many, many years they'll actually try to follow the refuges as someone said you know it is not what airbnb says that what they do pudding one of the big differences within the party we have is that you have corporate democrats that believe that recreation alisa miller airbnb don't have to follow the rules and the bernie sanders and elizabeth warner wing of the party building those corps need to be held accountability and follow the rules like everyone maybe this is a change in san francisco at national level those corporate democrats that have control of the party that led away in the corporations
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maybe that is the start in san francisco the corporate democrats in that believe to do the same so i look forward to that and look forward to the hearing. >> thank you supervisor campos bill barns from the zoning administrator's on behalf of the office of short-term rentals. >> good morning members i'm bill barns on behalf of the ever zoning administrator and kevin guy will be out there the weather and i'm happy to answer basic questions and come back on questions. >> have you or the zoning administrator heard any responses to the letter that you wrote to all the short-term rentals platforms at the beginning of this year. >> the zoning administrator and the manager of the short-term rentals sent