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contract in the anonymous of $31 million plus to the lowest qualified responsive bird the construction company. >> ms. ho. >> kathy ho for the infrastructure this project is to determine 0 existing facilities at the yard and to construct a new admin building and to have prefab buildings and 3 canopy structures 6 bids all over the engineers estimate and and consulted with public works their noticing the issues with they're building projects they're coming in over engineers estimates the funding from for this additional base bid will be
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coming from the water shed center for the time being and the water shed center the payment is looking at at the engineering to trim costs on the water shed center. >> okay. >> any particular cause for the increase. >> i think there is so a lot of building construction throughout the city so public works they're saying the bids are over because of the construction that is going on throughout the city. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioners. >> yeah. i don't understand so the water shed - the education center what's it called. >> the water shed center. >> so the money that's where the money is going to come from. >> the additional 5 to 6 millions. >> is that going to jeopardizes
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this project. >> we'll won't have a water shed center but value the engineering and come up with a more efficient way of building or constricting constricting that. >> i think also there are other projects that may come in and have contingency or because that is a later. >> - >> 09 projects so the a gm is looking at they're ten year capital to juggle to try to accommodate this construction as well as the water shed work. >> i'd like to at some point i'd like to get an understanding the where the contingency money and the prelims for the water shed that a great project i'll hate to see it compromised.
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>> we'll come back with the water shed center and have the monies how how it is looking like. >> thank you. >> i'd like to point out that this is a trend that we're seeing given the number of cranes and how much work is out there a lot of projects within the city not only san francisco public works but also the port mta, bids over the engineering estimate and also we're seeing fewer bidders they're to busy don't want to bid we were working on trying to resolve a settlement and you know negotiations not with the city but a private person to do work he was trying to get bidders and one didn't want to bid so this is really challenging and you
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know it is for me being with the city for 3 two years i've seen this cycle we need to try to figure out how we can you know position ourselves to at least be in a position you know where people will like to bid with us but the fact people are very, very busy we need to try to figure out you know we can maybe relook at our estimates to take into consideration. >> well, one thing there is not a lot of bidders so this is i'll expect if things are that tight you might have 56 bidders but there were not a few so keep an eye on i know at other times because of steel projects went up it is pretty clear reason why
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so i'll just you know - we need to revisit the center but keep an eye on the trends to learn from that. >> through the chair can you look at that. >> great. >> thank you. >> can i have a motion? >> so moved. >> there is a motion that has been seconded any any public comment. all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? item 9 carries. >> item 10 please. item 10 approve the specifications in the work contract in view of them of $29 million accomplice to the lottery quality and responsive bidder j m b construction. >> this item actually came in
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within the engineers estimate with the pipeline project part of the original wsip water supply projects that and this project will supply to m g d water when the project is completed we are putting out the - we are getting it done through the 3 construction cracks that is the third to do the pipeline work that connects the recycled water plant to little reservoir and pump station in golden gate bridge so the second contract that will be coming out for the treatment plant itself at oceanside facility and the third piece will be the pillage station reservoir in golden gate park we had to startle the contracts they'll all finish so we can get this done for the whole facility.
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>> is there any uncertainty about reservoir and pump station locations. >> no, because i think their modifying what is in golden gate park they've put in a reservoir their not fully utilizing i think most of agreement are being worked out and you may have approved them earlier. >> okay there's been some shifting of position within rec and park we're at the place to spend serious money. >> steve richie has met with them and this has not been brought up as an issue. >> commissioners. >> like to move the item. >> been seconded comment?
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>> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? that motion carries. >> item 11 item 11 a working group on the cleanpowersf plant. >> ms. hale. >> good afternoon barbara hale assistant general manager for power first, i want to give a short update on cleanpowersf efforts before we go into the details of the workshop and talk about enrollment and activities on the enrollment we continue to successfully serve our customers our may enrollment i have no changes since the last meeting we're serving over 74 active locations and the opt out is 2 percent so we've opposing to stay there on november one we began serving additional customers in districts 5 and 8 customer accounts shifted to cleanpowersf
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with the november meter reads so by the end of november we'll be able to report what our customer base we expect is that 3 thousand we are currently experiencing on opt out percentage of one .5 percent for the fall enrollment group we received i'm happy to report nine hundred and 27 up grades so we've reached the milestone supergreen is more than one thousand accounts thank you san franciscans customers sign up our the future exploratoriums we're the fact of the matter go 74 percent are
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supergreen so that enthusiasm looks like that will continue which is great on the rates - the california public utilities commission will be issuing a decision on pending pg&e rate requests and transition rates we know will change the enacts to the hetch hetchy customers will be small and the revenue will be neutral with respect to cleanpowersf we are expecting the cleanpowersf customers to experience a small bill increase relative to pg&e bundled service and newly until the next pg&e rate we expect to be an increase in the spring or summer so there will be a period of time where we expect our raised for cleanpowersf to be lower but the
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overall built enacts because of the tci a that pg&e charges our customers will be a small increase the proposed decision from the california public utilities commission is expected later this month on the issue we'll have an opportunity to comment on that and definitely take that the subject property and the puc will issue their decision rates will be on january one i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> on those topics. >> i have a question sorry. >> uh-huh. >> will the pc i a question be revisit for the rates or. >> the pcia is a piece of california public utilities commission december decision yes and we are on the cpuc front and
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on the sort of cost non-bypassable charges we're active in a working group that the california public utilities commission established on the formal the pcia calculation and together with the other community choice agree grandfathe grandfathers - the methodologies will which was and next for the legislation season collaborating on what sort of changes to look for legislatively to address various cac and investor utility issues including the sharing of investor utility costs with pcia customers so the plaintiff cia methodologies probably will not
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be finished or revised before the meeting on the rates; right? >> that's correct. >> yes. >> okay. >> i'm sorry one more question that 70 plus if so how does that complete with cac. >> that's one of the tops will be addressed if you indulge me the presentation we're switching into is really to see you know the effort is all about seeing how to accelerate the program enrollment throughout san francisco you know back in december of 2017 we presented you with a business plan that business plan had some projections and now looking at how to accelerate these revised you we'll come back in the
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spring with that plan commissioner vietor you asked more information during the development of the plan and not land the plan on you in the spring this workshop will be responsive to that request with that introduction i'm going to turn it over to responsibility over to mike our cleanpowersf director. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. >> good afternoon. >> i might not be wearing a chicago cubs tie (laughter) before i start, i felt like i'll be remiss not to congratulate you in the world series the
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giants fans acknowledge that but i was roll call our work basically a year ago and you announced at one point weigh launch the program and the cubs will win the world series they happened in the same year anyway congratulations offering great the presentation is focused on reviewing the work underway on the plan. >> i'm going to start with the implementation approach and a consultant of the plan and finally i'll share some of the research we've been doing with the cac programs some initial
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lessons learned and the next step in the process. >> so this should be a familiar slide from the business plan activities and updates over the course of the past year the goals the commission adopted for cleanpowersf and we endeavored to consensus with the balance to those goals for affordable and reliable services for the portfolio with the lower green house gas emissions and invest our revenues in renewable services and jobs, all while providing for long term rates and financial stability. >> and what have we done towards chief of police the goals first, the launch of the program with rates a quarter of
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a percentage after accounting for the fees that pg&e charges the customers second you adopted energy portfolio for the green product of 39 percent audible renewable with lower green house gas emissions overall and third you adapted a tariff an electrical vehicle rates and recently approved the steps for the cleanpowersf programs and we'll feet we are staff our staff works on the tariff to be made available next year. >> as you may know cleanpowersf launched in may 2016 it became the second enterprise program of a single
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or county and lancaster is the on that formed in southern california all other cacs are transbay joint powers authority and the startup for an $8 million loan for working capital and also 17 line of credit to secure the transactions and we established cleanpowersf as a financially straight exit to provide the transparent to limit the financial risk on the power and launched that has a 50 megawatt opt out raised we're projecting the program will be serving 50 megawatts within a year looking like we may go 20 percent.
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>> let's see - >> my colors get messed up but to help to guide staff in implementing cleanpowersf the commission adopted 5 best practices that cover the product content and the rate setting and phasing and the supply mettle and the reserve - all the policies are summarized but the narratives are included in the december 8, 2015 packet the rates have to compete or beat
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pg&e and established rates are sufficient to recover the program costs, power supply sources are sufficient for the demand that the program has sufficient financial resources to meet the financial obligations, and that the program has necessary staffing and support systems in place this is another slide we've cycled from previous presentations this is the note that cleanpowersf is the major initiative offering service citywide is an 8 fold increase putting it on power with the revenue perspective twice the size of water enterprise from a
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customer account perspective the statistics are in the bottom of the slide the account issue is a function of more multi family dwelling meters for electricity. >> the goal the growth plan is to accelerate the pace of growth in a financially responsible manner that is the goal that established ourselves this effort to do so the growth plan must answer fundamental questions resolve restrident their suhr the program has the in the financial resources to increase it's power purchasing activities and organization alley handing growth and the
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metabolics to know when to hit the gas in terms of growth and hit the breaks for example the rate issues we were talking about before. >> will have holistic recommends we'll present to you this is a road map for program growth that identifies the environmental and economic benefits of growth and the additional power supplies to meet the city's goals a proposed schedule and approach to financing the additional power supplies and establishing the enrollment plan. >> and these boxes identifying the components the the subject property area of the components we're working on.
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>> before you go on. >> yeah. >> i have a couple of questions about you going on one the 17 credit when does that get paid back. >> the letter of credit is sort of the backstop it is available - the way it was set up it will only be used in the case of a termination when a default the city and cleanpowersf is in default. >> we've not entered into a credit arrangement. >> the letter of credit is j.p. morgan that instrument is available to the supplier in that instance. >> we're not going there. >> not at that point. >> the other piece as part of
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growth plan i want to flag it it came up before the actual product and increasing the greenness of that product question about natural gas and projections as the market continues to shift in renewables are more available and cheaper what that transition might look like. >> your anticipating a few slides from the slides don't address our questions ethic to claesht but as any questions for accelerating the pace i want that to be a component to alert accelerate the pace of the product while maintaining the product liability as well. >> i think that once we go through the rest of the other programs weighing we'll see they're able to accelerate.
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>> oh, okay. >> at the did it for a cost or rational for a reason. >> yeah. this is paramount to the growth plan we identified the goal as established itself as a vehicle for chief financial officer an environmental goals among others and the city has articulated a goal to contribution the electrical supply to one hundred green house gas emissions by 2030 and cleanpowersf is the means by which the city can really take action on that goal. >> more drarlg so that's going to be central to the growth plan and the gather source plan we do this year and every year going forward as market conditions
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change and the demand changes as well. >> okay. great. >> okay. so the development experience of other cpa's a number of slides summarizing the information on other counties have approached this the rates for the default electricity and the content of the portfolios the build out and compliery building and the approach to securing the financial supplies first how have the operating cacs been to program growth is this bicycle chart i'll walk you through how to read this chart fairly data rich this bubble chart is the growth
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and relative in megawatts the cac program is identified on the list and the year on the y axis they represent a phase of the program with the first bubble with program launch and the last added full-scale the size of bubble is the size of the program in megawatts and if it is a solid line around the bubble the phase is completed and a doted line indicates the plan or provacative it is difficult to see the doted lines are difficult and the megawatt values are identified in each of bubble sanborn map is the first program identified on the chart it indicates that the program launched in 2016 and we will expect to serve 43 afternoon megawatts that calendar year the
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phase one will be complete by the end of 2016 that's why you see the size growing to 63 megawatts in 2017 that is the first full year of energy on the phase one the remaining 3 bubbles in the green cleanpowersf sector which are for 2019, 2020 and 2021 show the additional phases projected in the december 2015 business plan to get to the citywide serve and you'll see two, that they are projected to be 13 megawatts at that time moving to the axis to the right the relative size of the cac programs and the first one is the lancaster that reaches maturity already and soma and
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mcare in the process of addressing community with the next year. >> right in the middle of the project is clean energy that launched in october of this year and peninsula what you'll see peninsula is planning a rapid planning growth in the process of carrying the resources to meet the projected demand of the additional phases as of this date peninsula planning on offering services to all customers in the service areas in 2017. >> a few additional observations once the fall enforcement cleanpowersf will an as large as lancaster and on with soma around the same time in their project development it will be the largest cac given current conditions when
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full-scale and the chart also shows how fast the peninsula relatively to the cleanpowersf business schedule and accelerating that pays by 3 years i want to emphasize our growth plan work is examining how we can expedite future phases of enrollment so we can bring the benefits of clear energy to san franciscans a faster timeline and in a financially responsible manner. >> moving on to rates - actually any questions on the last slide no. >> i have one - at build out you're looking at a fair amount of energy being served by the cac program how does that relate
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to the size of pg&es service area. >> that won't effect pg&es service area the cac programs won't principally because that service area is defined from the vantage point - >> from an energy perspective pg&e has published the projections they see 40 percent of their generation supply service migrating i believe by 2025 a 40. >> 40. >> how does that play into the pca. >> an important part because the issue at hand is that pg&e
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has made commitments on behalf of all the customers in the concept behind it is that the remaining customers are indifferent to customers departing for another service so it is important that pg&e is making the projections they'll saying they should be pulling back from making for commitments especially long term commitments to serve the customers that factors into the longevity of the cac over time to give cleanpowersf for example, we had customers depart pg&e shouldn't be ready to serve those customers and assessing the values take a snapshot want commitments of low migration for the customers departure and if it defines the cost ongoing obligations so again, it is
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important and it didn't necessarily effect the amount of pcia the amount is relate to the cost of resources that are in pg&e portfolio against the estimated value so what pg&e can get from the market in it sells those resources. >> are some of the resources available to us to acquire from pg&e or to obtain energy from them. >> pg&e has made the resources available for sale and issue offers and request bids pacific heights i periodically - up for discussion when it comes to how
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to manage the what we call the remaining customers indifference and fairness to cac customers and make sense for cpa's to buy the resources from pg&e. >> if they fit with our profile for energy we want in terms of the you know it is green house gas it seems to be a way of reducing their argument we can unburdensome of these. >> sure a strong argument for cac taking the contract costs there should be no cac costs. >> we'll urban design greener so some of those probably won't
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- >> yes. that's true the type of resources can be at issue. >> didn't you say the pcia wouldn't be affected and still be the same amount even if the customers migrated. >> the migration of customers didn't effect the sail of the pcia that's true i was trying to say if p cia started buying from pg&e their portion of the contracts that pg&e has secured on behalf of the cac customers and they were paying the contract price that pg&e is responsible for there would be no need for pcia. >> right. >> now the reason the pcia exists pg&e prices are expensive that brings the plaintiff cias
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prices up closure to where pg&e is. >> if they're losing 40 percent of their customers they should be pretty much less so the by cia should be going on dune over time what is included are long term contracts and much of that is renewable energy. >> they're still entering into but entering at a reduced rate right now because of the migration. >> that's right. >> well, because of market one clarification there the market for renewables has improved draeveng since pg&e has procured under the portfolios contract. >> but if pg&e didn't have demand bus customers are switching to cac they're not
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actually in the market at these prices. >> my first reaction when i saw the chart there was a lot of cacs radio auto out you expect there be be a congestion in the market that prices may go up bus of not only our prices but others. >> we're aware of and considering and alcohol monitor it is hard to anticipate now without having done solicitation refresher not seen the trend part of it, it is the state and the cacs are trying to build in any capacity on the margin our new projects and new projects are competing against one another to get those but there could be a pace issue where cac
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has won a certain amount of the renewable energy if their portfolios and others can't keep up that's one possibility and no anecdotal or no evidence at this time this is happening now. >> if i recall some discussion about trying to have the various cacs coordinate if purchasing the electives. >> so we'll have informal conversation how to coordinate and pool our buying power 80 together i think you're aware the cac has formed an association recently cal cac those radio did types of topics that come up with discussing the policy and
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regulatory policies that cac is assessing and coordinating i think there is a a real opportunity for cacs to look at how they might collaborative through the establishment of the sort of service oriented gp n to have greater quantities to drive down prices and offer certain services potentially call service services for example. >> thank you any other questions on this slide. >> okay. thank you. >> precede. >> thanks. >> monkey off my back to rates so the affordability has on a hallmark of each cacs product at the time of launch each cac has
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offered lower rates at the time of launch, however, most cacs recognition they're not in control of the rates making the representation they'll meet pg&e for example, times running the rates i should be clear that the cost to mccustomers have exceeded pg&e when finding for the pg a not - operating cacs tend to have competitiveness rather than beating pg&e with they're marketing materials. >> this slide compares the operating cac default with the snapshot of the rate difference for the e-1 the standard
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residential rate schedule for the investor and utilities for the default products that is cleanpowersf screen products the out liar is lancaster as i want to point out this lancaster is in pg&e territory they compete with a different illustrate and a lower generation rate and as a result their pcia rate is lower that explains the big difference in relative costs the chart indicates that while s c e is 5 percent of their total generation rate pg&e pcia is 25 percent of the generation rate pursue the operating p - cac
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are offering rates that are all about 5 percent of one another one 5 percent of one another i want to point out that part of what we're doing with the platoon a studying the costs of our fellow xeefrts and to better understand the expansions to help to spread the costs that is something we'll do with the performa analysis and i will point out that our initial finds with that scaling helps significantly in recovering the costs. >> okay. so this shied is not showing up well, i apologize for that but this is a slide that compares operating cacs
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electricity portfolio with pg&e's and starting from the left hand it shows pg&e's renewable content with a y to 100 percent and pg&e's is thirty percent renewable and 59 green house gas emissions free with 23 percent of that source from uniqueer and hydro if you move right to the right of chart you'll see the operating cost the first one is cleanpowersf and those figures represent the best current estimate given the supply and demand to state of what our content for the green default product will look like and you'll see we're currently project by project our products to include 40 percent bundled bucket one renewable energy generated from california
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36 percent green house hydro electrical sources that includes 15 percent aroused from hetch hetchy this year. >> and then 21 percent from other hydro traffic light supplies provided by the suppliers for for a total of 76 percent g h a content that 17 percent red there between and the other 24 percent if cal pine generating united this supply actually provides green house gas emissions savings when compared to purchases from california i s l and that is 10 percent savings. >> how long is that california
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contract for . >> 3 years. >> so the take-home message is that cleanpowersf is performing well as far when meeting the goals to delivering more clean energy to our customers. >> again apologizes for the light coloring but this is a forward-looking slide and i mentioned before the major part of growth plan will be identifying the rate and quantity in which we need to increase our content that goal one goal to chief a g h g free this is the pg&e projection of the green house within now and
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2030 difficult on the overhead i apologize the y is the portfolio coming from different energy types of and pg&e is project by project that will increase from thirty percent today to 53 percent in 2030. >> and it's g h g 50 to 73 in 2030. >> in contrast the doted line shows cleanpowersf renewable default product if it were to maintain the 10 percent margin over pg&e that's essentially where we are we projected out to show where we are at which is 63 percent renewable and then the top line the green house
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commended it shows the green house gas emissions squeezed out the cleanpowersf portfolio over that timeframe. >> the growth plan is going to start to lay out the options for meeting this demand but i want to point out we're conduct a plan that provides for specifics to look at the optimal mix of the resources is and that's will be over a long term a 20-year and we'll be updating that plan on an annual basis. >> can i - before we leave i'll be interested i mean, i said subtly in understanding maintaining affordable how quickly we can move forward and meet that 2030 goal going g h g
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free and moving go forward with renewable especially with the success of the program that that looks like because the climate is changing fast and it is incumbent to make sure we get to the other side of the bridge maybe go back and put that in that would be great. >> okay. >> just a few more slides that is the comparison the build out and the complimentary programs that are offered or - to be clear this slide shows the gaps we are telegraph hill trying to fill the cac is not telegraph
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hill developing a program to the best of our knowledge and that cleanpowersf doesn't intend to offer the program i want to point out about energy efficiency the customers have access to city administrative code and program for the programs and we're planning to make sure that the customers are aware the programs to assess being a cleanpowersf customer didn't effect their goiblthd we contribute to the funds of the programs improving offerings to specific to customer needs is a part of cleanpowersf programs future and again what this shows is areas we're telegraph hill staffing today
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the takeaway the largest cac program is the locate offerings here and cleanpowersf is implemented two, that meter energy and metering we're in the process of developing one the terrace a balanced payment plan and ongoing payment the staff is telegraph hill working on those today and we have to make the programs available next year. >> can i ask a question about the electrical vehicle rate how do you see that structured is it too early. >> what we've done as far the electrical vehicle market is a developing market what we've done is adopted the rates that pg&e is offering we have a
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complimentary vehicle rate that pg&e is doing and they're two options and those options are intended to support different aspects of the market both - but with the goal of charging at appropriate times we have you 36 tend to have a different profile they discourage on usage an area that will be cleanpowersf will be good grounds for policy making in the sensed as we better understand the electrical vehicle market and the customers needs cleanpowersf is tailor their rates for the time of use they con assume electrical vehicles are a sector of the market for demand response and
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it is something we can fill the box on the electrical vehicle side. >> so pg&e lowers your rates if you charge between 11:00 p.m. i think 5:00 a.m. but your rate overall is - we have electrical - electricity lower in that sense so i'm curious to see what that looks like down the line and car sharing hoping that electrical cars will be shared this is the best city in the world to have electrical cars and a later discussion other plans for charging for people this is the structure and demands but love to see that someday if so it practical. >> an area we're in active discussions not only for cleanpowersf but for hvlt public utility services we have
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electrical charging stations and are working across the city to look at the best practices for extending the infrastructure and bringing our green house hetch hetchy power supply to that market so i think definitely intend to be more information on that. >> thank you. >> i was surprised out how the electrical vehicle rate if you get the preferable rate mooifrns are required we're at home during the day and actually cheaper to keep it under the old plan i charge my car at night so for anyone that is similarly situations as us to the early morning hours and not compare during the peak it takes a different kind of structure.
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>> yeah. i think that you know it does speak to the evolving market a lot of research how customers use the electrical vehicles when they charge what they're driving patterns are, and you know, i think this is an exciting area for us for cleanpowersf to really actually move the green house needle further by not just addressing the electrical supply but also to address the transportation sector but i think another layer there will be looking at the cleanpowersf demand characteristics and aggregate and trying to direct consumers to the times that benefit cleanpowersf overal program from a financial perspective. >> okay last but not least we
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are looking closely at the credit requirements be associated with the growth all cacs have some form of financial support from the local city and county member agencies with the transportation authority or private lender had distinguishes out the usage of a lockbox of escrow account every other cac launched to date has utilized the lockbox to have the startup supplies cleanpowersf uses the letter of credit we discussed before and twerpt launching the cleanpowersf a year ago only a couple of suppliers with the box and the city of lancaster established the first multi party lockbox at the valet the
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peninsula adopted the multi party lockbox for example, and cleanpowersf opted out to use a line of credit to launch the program quickly and to be the best competitive we only have a couple of supplies and wanted to reach as many supervisors to get a competitive offer for the supply costs the lockbox has been critical to help to chief and plan by paid programs as a result the evaluation of the lockbox option will be a key program to our work going forward hello. >> okay.
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>> so what are how findings and next steps we're very much in the startup mode we can claim that the program has been a success thus far we've launched the competitive rates and fewer green house gas, however, we'll be bringing more information on the performance of the program over several months as the year concluded and other cpa's use lockboxes to secure payment to suppliers without injuring the cost to the supplies that is representative in the comparative chart with the extensively priced lockbox are a key ingredient for more radical scaling than cleanpowersf projected in the business plan
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which was really an organic growth using the program revenues and additional collateral through a letter of credit in addition to your consideration of lockbox arrangement re developed the recommendations and conduct further analysis to understand what the program financial reserve should be and adjust the program and reserve policies to get - give the program more time to meet them for example, and other renewable energy like category 2 renewables how much do we expect those to meet the growth rate a communication outreach perspective and power purposing and financial purchasing perspective and critically what is the staffing
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report to insure that we make no compromises in customer services and capability as we expand and with that, don't forget to join cleanpowersf. >> thank you. i noticed one of the bus stops in any neighborhood has a very nice large poster that advertises definitely it is very good. >> we initiated an campaign that includes the posters they're very nice. >> thank you, commissioner any questions. >> i have one comment. >> first of all, thank you so much for your hard work i know that commissioner vietor was a strong advocate and but you guys
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played pokeer and had to show your hand against an occupant that didn't have to this is very, very masterful i think that i wish chicago could have something like that this program the way you guys were aggressor aggressive and thank you for the advocates this is a great year thank you very much for your work. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> public comment. mr. brooks. >> good afternoon, commissioners eric brooks sf green party/our city/sf clean energy advocates. and grassroots organization of our city a lot of hats as commissioner knows i did a deeper dive into the baseball
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met for i spent a lot of time growing in chicago i am from california i used to be skeptical i believe in incarceration i've been waiting one and 8 years not only in my lifetime for the cubs to win the world series the met for is great what we've achieved with cleanpowersf and the cubs winning the world series that is fortuitous but the world series is taking building renewable efficiency and the focus it program needs to have going from this point forward we need to
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win our up and down the is not pg&e but the climatic change that will destroy that pg&e is a good picture for the bad guys but the bad guy is the climatic change like the baseball team to win the world series against the climatic crisis cleveland is apologizes to cleveland you have to have an entire team of 9 positions to win the game you can't just say all right i'll try putting out a pinch and try a shortstop and make them a catcher and maybe we'll add some outside fielders and base men later in the game if you do that you'll lose the game and again, the game is building renewables
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not just - we need to build local and other renewables so standards touch on the edges we really need to do focusing on getting all the players gathered and working together we have efficiency renewable and solar and wind and regional wind and demand response all those things being planned as a team effort in a network of resources all put together that all go out as a planned thing where a coach plans a game so we're getting the best economies and the berries integrations of the resources together and putting the whole team on the field is our fight again, the climatic change and beat the other team that's it cubs win.
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>> thank you mr. brooks. >> see i've always known he's a great guy. >> jason fried, executive officer. a whole heck of a lot it cover in 3 minutes i'll do my best first of all, some of the things commissioner vietor i agree we need to go as green as possible one our program has a restriction how we get our electricity are all the restrictions needed they're keeping us in the way of having a more money important build out and more money for efficiency and as well as more money to go out address find on the resources of renewable energy that work perfectly fine climatic change is an international thing didn't
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matters where the green house gas - we need to have a contribution into our grid but taking a serious look are we regulating too much where the electricity comes from that hampers our ability to get more electricity within the last week i got an e-mail about a program they're getting rebates for people and helping to pay for the installation of charging station within our property we should be looking at ways to do that not only are we encouraging people to use greener trouble to our ability to get people to electrical vehicles helps to grow our energy needs but cleaner electricity and getting them off
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of dirty fossil fuel i'll encourage us to look at there's a pilot program but want to take into account that as well getting into some of the discussions we are going on around the long term contracts from the p cia i know your monitoring that one thing the deblow plant closure that can be impacted and one thing to keep in mind you don't need to go out and get contracts but the old contracts that i'll defend pg&e for a quick second it is rare they were great and needed at the time but they're much more expensive and figure out how we balance that load for them without having them increase and keep the costs fair to the cac customers at the same time then the final one thank you to
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the staff their trier of fact to work hard but need to look at how we're getting money from the charge i can guarantee you the department can do programs better but right now pg&e gets to take the credit for the department of the environment but great if we got did money instead - so i encourage to look at that if we can get that money and not through pg&e continuation a better marketing program for us. >> i see some needing heads we'll be taking comments for next year for the world series and the of digesters completed. >> can i make a comment. >> so i appreciated the public comments and just wanted to
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first emphasis in the grow plan a couple of pieces will be great to include we want to keep an eye on the local build question having when some flight assessments might happen that's in the mix angles ago to talk about what might be the low hanging fruit with the local build out and to build resiliency we have a power generation and from a job perspective there is a lot of opportunity i'll thinking in the grow plan that would be great i'm hoping when we talk about accelerating the market mix as soon as possible for 100 percent renewable g h g freeze the question of restrictions i'll imagine will be addressed as part of that because they were reasons to put the restrictions
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on and some might be valid but when we talk about acceleration whether that is regulatory or otherwise to leave it - >> i want to point out we talk about affordability with pcia and other pcias are doing rec they have rates that are cheaper and at the same time, we wanted to do local build that are more expensive so we're still with that you know juggling act we're trying to do it responsibly and we look at the lockbox we can move towards but i think we agree that maybe very should look at some of the restrictions we have and the other thing you
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you know it maybe challenging to put the current contract and decrease the costs we may not be - below pg&e. >> right. >> so, i mean we have to revisit all of this i'm saying we're cautiously moving forward that's why i don't want to start building stuff and be more expensive than pg&e. >> yeah. >> that's why i'm saying you know we look at everything. >> i think this is some a shifting collapse the i can't do what we purpose pg&e assets as we grow our program it is interesting piece of mix and just in the growth or business plan understanding it can change to factor all the things it i
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dynamic. >> any other questions from the commissioners general public comment thank you all no action required on that item staff will be back early next year for follow-up. >> hi emilio nice shirt (laughter) okay. >> we're about to go into closed session. >> madam secretary call the items for closed session. >> item 14 unmitigated claim jason and selena and item 15 the existing claims along the martel and pro 21 will not be heard today. >> thank you any public comment on items to be heard in closed session?
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>> seeing none, can i have a motion? >> to assert the attorney/client privilege. >> to assert. >> move to >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? and that motion carries and we'll now go into closed session. >> mr. president, a quick moment for the crews to come join harlan and i thank you for honoring the world series champions they have - invite commissioner caen. >> can i vote. >> yes. please. (laughter). >> did you emilio? >> since you don't have a hat to we're ar.
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>> (laughter). with my we're back in open session. during closed session approved settlement on items 14 and 15 can i have a motion? >> whether to disclose during closed session. >> move not to disclose second and. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? that that motion carries and is there any other new business? okay i should annoyance that the next meeting on november 22nd is cancelled because of thanksgiving we've been setting up appropriate a meeting for
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that and recognize that is - a birthday (laughter) >> happy birthday. >> any other business before this commission. >> well, how about happy new year ray for the cubs. >> okay we're now
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>>[gavel] >> good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. i apologize we had technical difficulty and a special meeting in this chamber and the just ended and now we're going to begin the regularly scheduled meeting for the land use and transportation committee. i'm supervisor melia cohen chairman of this committee and to my left supervisor aaron peskin. clerk is alisa [inaudible] and her friend said sfgov tv thank you for helping us with this broadcast. mdm. clerk any
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announcements? >> yes. please make sure to silence electronic devices. items acted upon today will appear on the november 28 board of supervisors agenda unless under the wise stated >> thank you. supervisor weiner has requested to be excused from today's meeting. >> moved and seconded. >> without objection that motion passes unanimously >>[gavel] >> clerk: one please >> item number one resolution approving the street name of martin avenue fronting street other by brewster street >> thank you. i believe we have staff from dpw here today to make a brief presentation on this item. welcome the floor is yours. >> good afternoon supervisor. department of public works. as mentioned this resolution is to name an unnamed street in honor
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of mr. martin ron. was a professional was professional land surveyor well known in the land surveying community construction community is established as his business in 1968. and was dedicated to achieving and expertise in the intricate procedures of land surveying in san francisco. since then, mr. bonds company has been involved with nearly every major project in the city. to this date. it's now being run by second and third-generation license land surveyors at the helm. so this was a project that was in the bernal heights area. part of brewster street extension project. which has been going on for a few years now. we are nearing completion with naming and dedication. that's the much it. if you have questions, concerning the project or street naming all the happy to answer. >> thank you very much.
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supervisor them has one has to question the was i have no questions but i cannot tell you the number of maps i've seen with mr. ron's name on it and i know little bit about his family's history did i believe the family are survivors of the holocaust and i'm delighted to name an unnamed street after him could of course need naming names streets is always extremely controversial but when you find unnamed streets usually works out okay >> a lot easier, yes or >> i'm in agreement i think it's an excellent idea to write thoughtful. glad we're doing this. will take public comment. so ladies and gentlemen at this time i'd like to invite you to come up for public comment on item number one. reminder you will have 2 min. 2 min. to speak you'll hear a soft i'm indicating about 30 seconds remaining on your 2 min. allotment you please come up to the podium if you'd like to speak on this item. >> good afternoon supervisors.
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my name is mary medic. on the residence of bernal heights and i've lived here since 1994. most people think the neighborhood they live in is a special place and we are no different in bernal heights that we really feel we have a special niche are there that we love and take care of. the proposal to change the name-it wasn't easy to find this good was posted on two lampposts on brewster street but you would have to be walking along. look at the post and find out this was going to happen. someone brought it to my attention and i send out information to approximately 15 or 20 neighbors in the approximate
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area of the area in question. i have received approximately 8-10 responses. the most significant response is that the neighbors wish no change. after you live there a little while, you know that is rooster street and there is a sign at the beginning of the street that says brewster. there have been a few other names that have been suggested among which, if they--if we want i can diebold them to you, but i have to say that having lived there, every ups driver, every fedex driver every person who delivers pizza in the city or to bernal heights and every cab knows how to get to our home.
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interestingly enough, i have to live on this area called brewster street but my address is 55 rutledge. so it's a quaint little tale and we are all very used to rooster street and we feel that by introducing another name into this small area with the disruptive and further confusing. if you have any questions or be glad to answer. >> no questions? thank you. any other members of the public that would like to speak of on this item? please, come up. >> good afternoon supervisors.
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my name is perry medic. i live it 55 rutledge. the woman who just spoke that's my wife. anyway, our house faces on this so-called unnamed street. but as always been known as brewster street. this really is not unnamed in our neighborhood. i just want to emphasize that. various merchants trying to find our house, they find it very difficult and for you to change it to another name like this would make that process even more difficult. so i would kindly request the situation on that section of the street remain unchanged. iq. >> thanks. any other members of the public that would like to speak? public comment is closed. at this time >>[gavel] >> quick question for the dpw representative. how would like change for the people that live on brewster street?
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>> theoretically the area being renamed or i should say be named, not renamed, there's nobody living there. actually going over dpw property at the moment. so addresses will not change. >> no economic impact? >> no. not for the local households. there are signs in the area that can be confusing. other than that, there's no direct change to people living in the neighborhood. >> okay. >> mdm. chairman if i may respectfully make a suggestion to normally when we rename a street the policy is that for a period of a believe five years, the two names are on the street. granted, this is on names public right-of-way but perhaps in deference to the individuals that testified today, we could have the sign
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read, martin m ron street -rooster for a period of time. i'm not pointing put it in the resolution unless the chairwoman wishes to do so but as a family suggestion, that might help the transition here? >> we could certainly do that. they departed the sign. we follow everything is the same procedures one of the how this would be an issue. >> that sounds good. to provide to peskin i'm happy to entertain it if you are put it as a motion to change the language good the other thing is i want to understand no one lives there. right? at the public right-of-way? >> correct. it's the roads are built by dpw and it sort of bands off of brewster street property or >> wield this-is this a land with the street you guys built, is their land that's available around? with 30 people residential living at some point in the future
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>> most likely, not. just because the lots are substandard now for planning, most likely probably remain as open space in that area >> okay thank you very much. wanamaker motions of her visor because if not we can accept it >> i could. why don't we hear if you're willing to reopen public comment mdm. chairman maybe we can ask the nearby neighbors on rutledge whether not i would be an acceptable compromise for them >> i'm going to open up, reopen public comment at this time it is a reminder you 2 min. to speak >>[gavel] >> ma'am, do want to share your thoughts on this compromise? >> thank you for your opening comments. i do want to say that there is a stretch of undeveloped lands in this area
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and often times cars from out of the neighborhood park along their. they throw beer cans, condoms, debris in this undeveloped lands. recently, the neighbors in the area and after many calls to the city to please, and cleaned it up, there've never done so. i should not saying never. they came one time and i actually just which of the area. having done trees recklessly.. it was just terrible. so recently we've had two days where the neighbors have got out there. they have cleaned the streets. they print the foliage, swept, washington post streets and they really take pride in this area. it is interesting grab a
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compromise but i don't know how naming a street martin ron, in all respect to him, and brewster will make this any less confusing. >> thank you. public comment is closed. at this time >>[gavel] >> let's do with the legislation we have in front was >> i know amendment and i would suggest we send this item to the full board recommendation as it is >> great. without objection it passes >>[gavel] >> clerk please call item to >> item number two >> ordinance amenity minister to go to berlin city from entering into an extending the leases the extraction of fossil fuel >> supervisor avalos is a sponsor for this item. he's not able to join us today but we have his aide germy public will be speaking on this item was >> welcome
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>> good afternoon. germy public legislative aide to supervisor avalos did this the ordinance was before you the full board of supervisors and full hearing of the budget and finance committee did the last moment of planning department realized they in overtly do not require ceqa finding and 78 amendment of for you at the finding that this amendment is categorically exempt from sql makes reference to planning's findings on that so we would ask you simply forward this to the full board again as a committee reports after public comment thank you for your time >> thank you very much. >> adam chairman i the couple questions for the department of real estate because i see them sitting there and in so far-i'd knowledge am a cosponsor of this measure but i actually have three questions for the department of real estate. one is: do you have any sense of
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what the sale price assuming the sale of the 800 acre property subject to the deed restriction would be? >> currently i don't have that information get ugly happy to get it to you >> the second question is, i assume that pursuant to chapter 23 of the administrative code the sale and form of deed would have to come back to this body that were sold? >> correct. i believe director of date mention that at the committee at budget and finance. any transactions that sort would come back to the full board >> then the third question is, how did you come up with the thousand dollars per acre for the solar energy revenue estimate? >> i deferred to the puc on that matter. >> is the puc here?
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>> john-with the puc do we can come back and explain how we have that dollar amount could >> if you can be ready to do that tomorrow when we consider the item at the full board all be curious to see what solar comps you have at of current county that would substantiate that. >> we will get that for you >> think it does take public comment. any member of the public like to join us in this conversation? item 2 is open for public comment at seeing none, public comment is closed. >>[gavel] >> all right. colleagues, or supervisor jim peskin motion for this item? >> i move we move this to the full board with a recommendation against the was as a committee report >> as a committee report without that passes >>[gavel] >> clerk item 3 please >> item 3 a ordinance amending
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the planning code to change the requirement from five-to two years to the student housing >> we have missed andrea powers from supervisor weiner's office. as well as [inaudible]. >> good afternoon pres. cohen and supervisor peskin. san francisco issuers staggering number of approximate 40,000 student beds that this is just truly remarkable. these 40,000 students compete with everyone else is looking for housing which makes housing more expensive for everyone. if you years ago supervisor generator offered legislation to identify new student housing while making it abundantly clear it's illegal to convert existing general population housing to student housing in san francisco. student housing as it is today is generally exempt from inclusion rate requirements so long as that
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housing remains a student housing. hence existing law requires that any point housing entitled the student housing later decides to convert to general population housing at that point the project is required to meet all of its inclusionary requirements, plus intricate today ordinance in no way alters this requirements. student housing to be provided in two ways. the educational institution itself can build housing for its own students or, when a more educational institutions can band together and master lease a building that is built by third-party. in the latter circumstance the current law requires that the master lease be for a minimum of five years and has the planning commission report points out which is in your packet, those five years are said to be a significant barrier for educational institutions for overriding of reason. in fact there was a hearing earlier this year the land use committee, on this matter and he educational
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institutions brought this up as being one the primary obstacles to entering into housing for their students. so again this legislation to make amends the master lease requirement from being five years to two years. again, as is today at any point whether it's at five years, two years, 10 years, 20 years, the housing converts to general population housing their required to meet all their inclusionary housing requirements and again >> can you repeat the last five? so when i read this over the weekend i was like, wait a minute five years-two years. you are saying if at the end of the two-year master lease they don't have another two-year or five-year master lease, then other provisions kick in the require them to do inclusionary
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housing or how does that work? >> yesterday whenever the inclusionary housing reforms were at the time the project was originally entitled, they would be essentially be out of that those requirements. they could not convert to general population without plus playing interest over that die for deferred. >> how does the planning department-i know you was to work there but how does the planning department enforce that? >> so it's a relationship between mou acd and the planning department. the original ordinance requires these projects to report annually to mou in terms of whose attendance are and who's living in these buildings. if any violation in fact that son under penalty of perjury just like the much of the house in the city. except that the planning apartment is the entity that their commission entitles the original project
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to do with any enforcement issues should they arise. >> but at the end of the two years they either have to do another master lease in that location or another location, or the out with interest? >> would talk about a specific building so it's that location. at two years, should they choose to revert back to general population housing perhaps all that erin speak of is more concretely, but they are required to pay and presumably other things as well. >> is this a counterintuitive to me because it seems to me you would want to enter into a total longer master lease because reduces your risk of having to pay the inclusionary fee. i mean, >> i think i'm happy >> have addictive flexibility but it seems like two years as a short-term act on >> is also a letter from a
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variety of educational institutions that describe it >> i saw it. >> the concern is that being for the smaller institutions in particular, the longer commitment as a being that and to being a risk for them as well. so having a shorter duration it's better for them without of course though always have the option to renew generally speaking that would be that they would >> that make sense to make it was there any consideration by supervisor weiner's office to have a size threshold differentiation? >> no. when going back to when we originally offered the legislation we totally made up to five years. that's something that seemed reason it wasn't necessarily based on a feedback we received at that point. we been told that five years is too much for these institutions and again i think the point to co-op supervisor peskin's boardroom this master lease provision generally is used by small institutions are the large institutions are
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presumably opening their own housing. >> it seems like there's a sea difference between uc hastings, albeit the not partially subject to local law and the san francisco art institute on chestnut street that has a very small student population. >> right. to your question, no, he did not think about a variation but if you have any thoughts on that i am happy to think about it. >> i am inclined to support our likely outgoing supervisor in his final piece of legislation. >> appreciate that, supervisor. i will hand it over to erin from the planning department >> thank you. >> mr. starr >> thank you supervisors. the planning commission consider this item on september 8 and unanimously voted to recommend approved and make a decision
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commissioner of the shortage of nearly 40,000 beds in the city and the shortfall insurance that overall housing crisis as students are forced to look for limited and expensive house. they propose ordinance does not change the current law. the ordinance lease in place requirement that student housing projects to fill their inclusionary housing requirement should housing a pretty diverted back to market rate housing. that includes my comments based on the ordinance but am happy to answer any questions you might have >> supervise them as question any questions because >> not that i have enough >> thank you for your presentation. we will go to the public at the time. public comment is open. good to see you. >> good afternoon. the hack is proud to support and past the two pieces of legislation that brought student housing first
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with supervisor duffy in 2010 and second with supervisor weiner. when the second one past was a lot of news about it and i was getting a call a week from national student housing developers same great get were coming to san francisco. we want to build student housing and three much nothing happens and what became clear is that the schools are really pretty risk averse. they had to carry the small schools had to carry the master leases on their balance sheets. being prayers lease finance and risk averse they do not want to do that. they felt that five years was too much as mr. powers suggested that two years would be something that might entice more of them into master leasing student housing. something that we strongly support and want to see take off the accelerator a lot more. so this actually came at the request. we've heard from some of the small schools. would this work? yes, we think so. i
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think it deserves to be tried to put it in and see of two years will get were of it going. i think it deserves your support. thank you for a much >> thank you. any other members of the public like to speak on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. >>[gavel] >> motion for this item? >> i move this item to the full board with a recommendation >> without objection the motion passes >>[gavel] >> clerk please call item for >> item number four is a planning code zoning map mission and nine street special use district >> i got in my notes we've got [inaudible] from the planning department get to present this item. if she's not here. it's okay because what we will do is i'm going to take public comment but this items going to be continued. perfect. so let's go ahead to public comment did anyone here like to speak on the item four, seeing none, public comment is closed. >> supervisor peskin is minor stand this committee can act on
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this item until we hear the course one in general plan amendment did therefore i'm going to ask for a motion to continue this item for november 28 meeting >> i'm sorry >> i like to make a motion for you to make a motion to this item continue to our november 28 meeting >> so moved >> thank you be without. >>[gavel] >> item 5 please >> item 5 is a ordinance and many the house go to her by that definition of development projects in large and small residential objects subject to the water >> thank you clerk. again to present as i'm >> afternoon. this ordinance before you is a cleanup amendment two original ordinance that supervisor weiner author back in 2005. that ordinance requires that new
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buildings greater than 250,000 ft.2 also include facilities for water recycling. in this era of unbridled climate change and what will likely be continued in systemic drought in california we need to be smarter about how we use water and not treat it as a precious resource it really is good today ordinance clarifies that project with zero months but of multiple buildings. that those multiple billings count towards the 250,000 square foot prussia did this with the original intent of our ordinance back when we authored it in 2005 but there's been a little bit of disagreement and that language. today we are here to clarify that. we-basically that's good i'm happy to have your support. the puc is here if you'd like a quick primer on water recycling but that is that you were
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leisure >> i think will go to public comment. any public comment on item 5? mr.:, welcome back. >> thank you supervisor tim: we have of housing action coalition we stand in strong support with this legislation is going. about half dozen of our members are going to be working on projects that are going to overly deliver recycled water. it's inescapable how we come to terms with climate change and the possibility of systemic drought and completely new different future that we start to move in this direction it is going to give us the tools we need to stop flushing toilets and watering our meetings with a catchy water. so that said, were walking a few last details. we think were very close. there's things that have to do with implementation. we've had conversations with the supervisor's office. i
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think this is eminently sensible legislation and should move forward and looking for to just getting the last couple of tweaks on implementation. so it has our support >> thanks. that's good to know. any other members of the public that would like to talk speak on item 5? seeing none, public comment is closed. >>[gavel] >> thank you. supervisor peskin have a we get a motion on this item >> i move this item to the full board with a recommendation >> without objection that motion passes >>[gavel] >> thank you. >>[calling public comment cards] any other items before us today >> know that concludes our business today. >> thank you. we are adjourned. >>[gavel] >>[adjournment] >> >> b was >>