fong commissioner hillis commissioner melgar and commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards commissioner johnson and joel koppel are present not entered the chambers yet configuring is consideration of items for continuance item o1 a

chestnut street is proposed until january 12, 2017, there is a typo on the agenda and item 2 for 2016 at townsend street conditional use authorization is proposed until february 9, 2017, and items 3 ab at 20th street and at the same address for discretionary review and variance are proposed until march second, 2017. commissioners further from your regular calendar 16 a through e for cases market street, through

score fourth street and bush street, 2014 at geary street, and case no. 2015 stuttering in the 11th hour received a request for withdrawal of these applications. >> okay. >> under your discretionary review calendar for case 20 at 1825 webster street a request from staff due to the adequacy or i think adequacy of the plan to continue this matter until january 19, 2017, and state commissioners that although the calibrations for items 16 have

been - well, they're on your agenda you could take up even though matters but the application is withdrawn. >> do we need to vote to accept the withdrawal. >> vote on the items proposed for continuance and withdrawals. >> let's do this separately any any public comment on the items proposed for continuance seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner moore >> move to approve items continued as noted. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners than on that motion to continue as proposed commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner melgar commissioner moore and commissioner president fong

so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero. >> and any public comment on little item plural that has been withdrawn. >> okay for item 16. >> okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. and commissioner moore. >> move to accept items 16 and 17 as noted. >> second. >> second. >> thank you for item 16 a through e commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and thank you, commissioners that places us under our consent calendar for item 4

are considered to be routine and may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. item 4 case at 19th avenue for condominium conversion there are no speaker cards. >> >> any public comment on the one item on consent calendar not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioner moore. >> move to approve second. >> second. >> on that under content commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places you under commissioner matters commission questions or comments.

>> commissioner moore. >> the tragic events of oakland brought back to me the serious question how we're dealing with planning department protection and the amount of displacement we're seeing here in our city and my heart goes out to oakland that raises many questions of responsibility and oversight for us i know the city will do everything to maintain the control so those kinds of things cannot happen here i don't know if director rahaim has any comment on anything we're intended to do i appreciate our feedback. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to departments matter

droufrment. >> thank you, commissioners i wish we close the matter on the oakland disaster commissioner an ongoing discussion in the city about this issue how it effects the properties here and whether there are measures we should take immediately to check for those types of buildings it involves way more the the planning department multiple departments we don't have a road map by working with the sister agencies to figure out. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to review of past events the board of appeals and the historic preservation commission. >> good afternoon, commissioners emery rogers here to give you your weekly report on the board of supervisors as it pertains to land use as land use committee this monday they considered an ordinance that authorizes the city acquisition

and acceptance of certain sidewalks along van ness avenue at no cost caltrain controls the right-of-way it is part of 101 therefore it is the review body for encroachment permits along the sidewalk acquisition felt right-of-way will not there the cost of the city the city maintenance the walk and caltrain it to rurjs the city it will result in better design the development of private property currently the commission will approve the aurng over the van ness sidewalk and after entitlement the costly and time consuming costs has a poor design outcome akin to a cheese grader down the side of a

building while the transfer of the sidewalks to the city when it occurs dpw will be the review body and able to regulate the permits as they don't in the rest of the city ultimately the comment was in support and the committee recommended approval due to the first reading also at the committee but not heard interim controls for indoor agriculture continued to january 19th has to do with with the cannabis cultivation the inclusionary housing small site program was before the committee sponsored by supervisor campos will allow the project sponsors of smaller market-rate projects to direct their fees into the program the city will acquire and rehabilitate the same way renter opted out buildings commissioners you heard this in

november this year and recommended two modifications first to lower the size of eligible projects if 25 to 24 and second require the fees be spent on acquiring the sites with an within the same neighborhood a market-rate instead of a one boundary supervisor campos accepted the modification of the project size and the second one was differently slightly the commission modifications allows for some discretion and supervisor campos modifications restricts the modification of the neighborhood listed in our department 37 neighborhood map that means the boundary is across the street from a property project acquisition of the funds can't be used to cross the boundary public comment was

in support of amendments and so afterward the committee accepted the modifications and recommended approval to the full board lastly before the committee was the transportation to demand management program the ordinance was developed through int interagency consensus and sponsored by supervisor avalos a citywide transportation to demand management program unanimously recommended approval in august of this year and since that time it's been heard by the committee twice at the both hearings members of the public spoke in support of issuance awhile seeking amendments to the program standards while some amendments were made by the committee more changes to come the most significant relate to the staging or grandfathering of these requirements staff will be working with shareholders and elected officials regarding the next amendment and present any changes to this body on near

january 19th hearing as calendared and mostly relate to projects at the margins and how they should be subject small projects and large projects and projects with san francisco recreation & park commission this was continued for the committee until after the years hearing take it up on monday january 3rd lastly there was a few items passed on the second reading for notably the 19th avenue and special use district were passed at the tuesday meeting recessed send the referral of the community plan for the projects on south van ness and seeking additional information that will be priority by staff as a at a later date and on tuesday i want

to direct your attention to a new ordinance by supervisor peskin that will update the hotel ordinance the changes are adding to or refinancing the transit use and conferee or conversion harmonizing fees in the building permit and eliminating the short-term rentals. the residential hotel that have violated the provisions of the ordinance and authorizing dbi to have - and adding an operator active date it amends the planning code will not be heard by this commission that concludes my report. >> director rahaim i want to reiterate one of the items which

ann marie talked about the sidewalks that is a pretty good big deal every project we did the slightest whether even though bay window or seek approval from the state through a lengthy process or change their design there were many projects along van ness that created awkward arrangement and disallows us to take control of those streets and those sides of building like everywhere else in the city but not allowed on assistance it took a year of work between ann marie and the mayor's office to negotiate this agreement with the state so thank you to everyone. >> the board of appeals met last night 4 61, 7th street was

for discretionary review and removed a roof deck and made other changes directing your attention of the construction it was pointed out by the public a complaint they were constructing a fuel set of stairs those photos were shown during the hearing and suspended that permit the project sponsor said that was assess for mechanical equipment putting additional units on the roof that was not part of commissions approval and didn't see the need for those stairs to assess the other areas up there the submitted revised plan for the urban permitted stairs and had screening for the proposed unit on the roof it was appealed to the board of appeals last night the board made additional changes removing the units from the roof and related screening

and having that at the rear we were noticeably looking that whether or not it was feasible but during the testimony at the hearing and they also adapted a condition saying no stair to the roof and that was all i'm available for any questions. >> good afternoon tim frye department staff for two items in the historic preservation commission that is the last hearing for the hpc this year the hpc unanimously approved a new construction project on 1010 in the dog patch landmark district for one hundred units one the district 86 off-street parking you'll see in next week

the hpc unanimously supported the design stating that they were pleased the restrictions revisions that were made by the acreal review committee approved that with standard provisions to refine some elements of the design the commission heard two proposed landmark designations the first for 1970 ocean avenue the theatre this is a timothy design down on ocean avenue the project sponsor is and the property owner is supportive of the designation, however, as a group of property owners that all were not able to attend the hearing they asked for a continuance until january the next hpc hearing was granted the hpc heard public comment which

was all in favor of the designation and they'll take up that item at next year at they're first hearing of note the designation does knew barrier and exterior defining features the commission heard the designation for 2117 to market street the hall that is opted out by the company and a ballet school this is a project on the department and the hpc work program for a number of years the commission unanimously approved initially the landmark process and instructed staff to work with the project sponsor so they fully understand the benefits and responsibility of local landmark designation that item will also be taken up at the end of january or beginning of february for the

final represents to the board of supervisors that concludes any comments unless questions. >> i'll add commissioner president wolfram initiated the nomination of two trees to be landmarked i mention that because commissioners you'll initiate that same nomination for the landmark trees. >> first hand. >> one is off of the - a large tree that both property owners share part of structure the other one i don't recall the address but we can forward those applications to you. >> very good, commissioners. that places us in general public comment not to exceed 15 minutes at this time at this time at this time, members of the public may address the commission jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items, opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the

meeting. each member of the public may address the commission up to three minutes. i have one speaker card. >> ms. georgia swedish. >> thank you very much good afternoon i'm here because on july 28th you had a dr for a project a remodel on 24th street can't see the forest for the trees i didn't see the newspaper but there it is for sale the thing you took dr on july 28th the permit was issued on the 21st of november and you removed the roof deck and the stair penthouse that was a good thing you also had other concerns about the siding and the glazing but the one thing in motion was the penthouse the staircase penthouse at the roof deck i bring that up i note you had

those issues before and you're concerned about the monitoring of what you do that's how i put it maybe you put it in less blunt terms we want to raise it a quick sale and their advertising they're selling the permit in the add and all fixed up in the adds and complimentary to that nearby on 30th can i have the overhead, please? is this project here at 513 been for sale quite a few of the and a couple of things that's the rear they kept the front it is a nice live little house i take my boys to school near that that is all glass glass glassy checked the permit they have a 311 but i think of as serial permitting since emphasizing the 311 was in 2014

nobody dred it and had all the things retaining walls and the last permit in 2016 and it was kind of not orlt but close they did the demo counts but all the stuff before this is two things together close by in castro and noah valley i was disturbed to see the thing for sale especially i gave you a hard time thank you and have a nice day (laughter). >> soouft sue hester i want to talk about the website and the

information it should provide on it there are the agendas and the rates to the inpatient for the commission cases the desire packet function which meant you all the information for all the projects are here down i believe from friday night after staff left until monday morning around 9:30 i fourth street found out about it when people called me we're - go to the packet and find the information i couldn't find any other cases here that are here today and i sent e-mails as my wanted over the weekend to the zoning administrator the planning director and the point and vice president and commission secretary and commission secretary and i finally when i sent it on monday

morning i got my first real response and the response oasis posted i was told then the appropriate person to deal with was the public relations person assuming from the department which was something i never thought of doing and the response if her was she had never been contacted by any of the planning commissioner one of the issues i raised in my e-mails was commissioners i believe 3 of you only read the department packets that are online the rest of you get our hand-carts paper copies so i believe that the interpretation is no harm no foul if the packets are not posted no great problem for the public indeed to say that openly you

need to as personally from a planning commission say our function to be dealing with projects from the public didn't have access to that which we represent they have which is the packet of information on the project the public is unimportant i challenge you to be honest about it. >> because this is the jest of what i heard you can be down friday night after the planning commission left i don't know when they stated what is right but seems to me after the staff left on friday can be down friday night and saturday and sunday and monday until 9:30 a.m. no problem i wish you someone to think about this because i feel really burned out. >> is there any additional

public comment? >> okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioners, if i may respond to sue hester's. >> please the departments website in march only our page of agenda and supporting documents was effected by some weird given we've not experienced before 92 not just this week's agenda but the desire packet was moved to a different folder and therefore was not available to the public or any of the commissioners, i came in on monday morning we quickly roared the access through our web person we don't take this lightly we look at this carefully and supplement and energy in making sure the hard copies are available to the public as well as the

commissioners that don't receive hardcopy via the access to the website this is not taken lightly the only time this is heard in my experience as the commission secretary and our web person is declining trying to found out how h that occurred whether that was human error but a freak observance i don't expect it to happen again. >> thank you jonas commissioners, that places you under your regular calendar the mission rock south excuse me - seawall and 48 pier presentation. >> good afternoon,

commissioners on joshua with the of any person(s) responsible for the ringing or use of a to kick it off a few weeks he heard oppression on the pier 48 and today, you'll hear about the mission rock project also a key master plan project on the southern bay front an underutilized property that offset transitive to improve the housing and spaces for jobs of all flavors and make a great new neighborhood that is nested at the southern end near mission creek close to caltrain and seems like an appropriate place for a transformation unlike this

is a large parking lot today other than pier h-3 we've tried to learn lessons if mr. brown how to make a transformation like this feel like an organic place and cherished neighborhood you've heard the strategies for the design and programming stand point to do that like all the others projects of this scale that will ultimately be with the rezoning and the documents that lays out the details and a development agreement with the obligations in process for the project the planning department along with the port and other city family have been working on this so for quite a few of the long before the giants came on board and sitting up the design pertains that are for the project you see before you and

hear endorsed by the builders not too long agree as you recall commissioners we were here with the office of economic workforce development to talk about the southern bay front you see that on the screen the southern bay effort an interagency coordination that is to provide kwoerptd city approach in shaping the many developments and master plans coming to you and to the city some of which are approved and in terms of the planning and physical design and transportation and other amenities to make sure those are coordinated and two a negotiation framework to as we're looking at the mission rock and down the line an coordinated approach how we are

putting those deals and third looking at the future implementation operations you know making sure we have the open spaces and so forth this is part a a broader framework and before i i'm going to turn it over to jonas i want to note a few member of the family team my colleagues from the planning department and from the mayor's office of economic workforce development mike martin i'm going to turn it over to jonas. >> if you josh my name is jack i'm the executive person for the san francisco giants and speaking my colleagues will be speaking today giving you the framework for the admission rock i'd like to introduce some colleagues christian 10 from

perkins and karen our principle land use design team and from the giants others i'm going to talk about the context the history of the site and the mix of land uses and the process we start out most of you are familiar with at&t park parking lot a and home to 2000 thousand plus vehicles and pier 48, nine hundred cars are parked for the ball park and in pier 48 that's the current uses of site and a small park right on the waterfront the waters edge a little bit over one acre contains the t ball field and a

statute of folks and green space so this project has been in the works for quite a few of the it started in 2007 the port of san francisco is the landlord of this property full about under the jurisdiction of state land and the conservatism so this land is heavily recollected and the port identity it as an opportunity site because it is being used as a surface parking lot not contributing to the city in it's current use and an opportunity for other port to generate revenue and public good on the site and that's why we're here today, this site in 2007 there was a port commission subcommittee that was formed and had nooergz a year if 2007 to 2008 and took testimony from stakeholders and neighbors about

what is an appropriate use of this site coming out of that public process the port issued a request for qualifications and proposals from the development community with respect to the development of this site in accordance that the principles that were developed over the public process and there were several respondent and in the end in needing 2010 the port choose the san francisco giants team so after 2010 and 2011 and 2012 the giants worked with the mayor's office of economic workforce development and the community to refine land use plan for the site and fourth what the economics proposal will be for the site and in 2013 present the land use plan and the term sheet to the board of supervisors and they unanimously endorsed the mission rock project through

that approval of the term sheet and the loould plan in 2014 given the controversy prop b was placed on the ballot and the voters asked all projects within the ports jurisdiction that involved the height had to go on the ballot at that time we should an endorsed term sheet but went back and put the mission rock on the ballot and did see no november of 2015 the voters approved the mission rock project by more than 74 percent of vote what you see today is the same lowell high school plan the proposal that was approved by the voters we've been working with the port and planning department 5 and the mayor's office to refine other projects moving forward and also to bring

forgot the eir that open will be released in february of next year and our target to get the project fully entitled no 2017. >> just real quickly i was going to go over the history you see this is a historic map of san francisco from 1868 and see mission bay was a body of water and mission rock is at the mouth of mission bay not along the coast and as you can see that there was a rock forms in the bay called mission rock just at the mouth of mission bay we're actually naming the site after a historic site that exists in fact, warehouses on mission rock until the is a 40s a fire and then the port expanded pier and

they're at the end of pier 50 and a street called mission rock we thought that appropriate to call our project mission rock it feels like mission bay it is tied to the streets connected to mission bay but mission rock has a feeling we're trying to establish here in that mission bay the neighbors throughout the process told us we want a gathering place we want to feel like we're more connected to the city so some of the things my colleague will talk about is how the block size are smaller the streets more intimate and designed to be a place where people can come from throughout the surrounding area and enjoy themselves the land use plan that was in the voter - for the heights

approved for the building a mixed use project one of the goals of the neighborhood you mean it has pockets of housing and biotech and university but it does have mixes of uses together in the same location and so the desire of the neighborhood was to have a more active place where residents live and people working in office and open space and public plazas be a more public feeling 24/7 so this site has 8 acres of open space a major regional open space at the northern edge called china basin and animates the building to the north of the site and incorporated an open space in the middle of the site that is a little bit over an acre and that the space in the

midst of the site animates the building and has a town square i'll take these one at a time the china basin park we've worked with that carefully with the neighborhood and established themes for the park we have a major open space along the waterfront that could be a place where you have festivals and picnics and movie nights and major gathering from the park another room, if you will, a park to the left of this rendering where were you have kids play areas and family restaurant and so that park has eyes on the park and actively utilized and to the left you have a gathering point as people are going to work over the bridge this is a place to meet up and that constitutes the 3

rooms of the park this is a rendering along the waters edge we're trying to establish the - trying to invite kayaks and recreation to the 150i9 have it used for families increasing happening in the bay and for major events. >> some renderings of the waterfront conditions and taken inspiration from a locations around the world with interesting waterfront treatments this is from china obviously we have water recreation we have a kayak launch adjacent to the park and a hydrologist you can drop off our kayaks in this location for those of you that go to games

this is a popular place on kayaking this is a picture of the giants field and the inspiration for the restaurant and the park, if you will, is i don't know if you've been to the shake park at madison square garden those are the teaches restaurant that are casual and families and kids can play in front of them in the parking this is another designation that many of you may be familiar with that the field and this is a depiction how the park can be used in the evening this is the brooklyn bridge in new york you, you have film nights and other activities a nice picture of a statutes that will remain the other major parks open space in the middle and mission rock square for park in new york or europe the

community gathers the retail centered around the park and creates a very community feel experience this is bryant park in new york this is the park in coping hypothetical that is interesting about this 24i6 this is an example of the intimidatecy that relationship creates we also have in addition to the 8 acres of open space 200 plus thousand feet programmed in the site and one of the unique things we took the parking out of the buildings and put it in one location only to create a retail friendly location and franls will talk about that this is the northern stub of the retail street that connects the garage to the bridge and one of the major retails this is to create an

intimate cozy place people are hang out and the amenity for a neighborhood and throughout san francisco and most of retail spaces are quite small because we did an analysis of the streets of san francisco and the ones that are most available or vibrant don't have large retail that establishment but have a constant flow of retail spaces and have the boulevard a street on the east of the site on this rendering as you can see pier 48 that will continue as a industrial type of use and apron and the uses along the boulevards are marry pdr in character we have a lot of ground floor square footage in the development we're thinking carefully about what will

succeed and in what environment we also have approximately, 1.3 million square feet of office in the project and 15 hundred residential unit significantly those offices and residential units are animated by the parks and will be very desirable in terms of the housing 40 percent of housing set aside as affordable to a range of incomes and unlike most affordable housing in san francisco each building p will contain 40 percent of housing units in the building you'll have a mix of residents in each of the buildings and we think this works well, that's how we pursue this development we have parking for the ball park and done in a thoughtful way to

minimum news the number of parking spaces for the uses they're serving and i think josh mentioned this site is of prairie a good site for office and housing because it is right in the mist of the array of public options a mission rock site and caltrain is a walk away the connections to bart the downtown to the peninsula to the south bay couldn't ask for a better site and blank slate to add housing and jobs and by the way, projecting 7 thousand jobs created on site and 10 thousand construction jobs as we build this project i'm going to turn it over to my colleague fran who will deeper dive on some of the planning issues we've been dealing with and available for questions thank you. >> thanks jack and thank you.

i'm fran the vice president of development for the giant and will provide detail how we'll make that vision a reality we've been working hard with of any person(s) responsible for the ringing or use of a and josh and many have spent a lot of time getting into the detail of all of that this year so the landline plan is based on the use as jack mentioned half of the believes that are shown in yellow will be residential and half in commercial in brown in the showing up well on the screen but we have each park surrounded by both residential and office use with retail on the ground floor of every building the blocks have half to 1/3rd the typical mission i mission bay block we move towards the

waterfront and have pedestrian accessibility to the bay front. >> this shows a rendering of the different buildings upon completion and that effect you get when you have the different block size a very, very sense of scale on mission rock more parcels and some of the rectangle ones so you'll have this throughout the site and on every park we work together with of any person(s) responsible for the ringing or use of a what is the sense of scale the one to one ratio of streets to street walls and setback on the intimate streets and when you get to the water a more sloping to have a airy light feeling on the waterway we done uses and

factored those into the design control to make sure we have the right museum of retail for the people that live and work here i'm going quickly we can go back to the details one more thing to note we're planning for small retail around the city overall a challenge with some of the smaller restauranteurs and retail operators we want to make sure that mission rock is a place where stores land and smaller storefronts and shops throughout the site our streets also therefore have different characteristics and qualities and designed to really reflect and integrate with the buildings and the ground floor and done unique work with the planning department staff on

creating a dodd that talks about the ground floor of the building how does the retail on the ground floor meet the public realm those radio been tightly coordinated with many agencies so the public experience feel as a whole i should mention we're looking carefully at the sites jack shows the image of mission bay we had a lot of geotech challenges onsite and planning in support of public infrastructure onsite in addition to having the low piles for all the buildings to bedrock. >> our transportation network has also been tightly coordinated and thought there muni and caltrain and bart we've

supplement looking into the bicycle and pedestrian network you'll see different ways of connecting into that that are planned so that cyclists and pedestrians have choices of their pathway of travel so touching on sustainability we have an incredible opportunity in the blank canvas that basically means no current building onsite we've take advantage of the essence of scale and the mix of uses and have set forward for ourselves some incredible targets that we are working towards for sustainability we see a pathway forward to save 40 million gallons of water onsite if we achieve some of the technical bay source cooling of the shared energy for the building we see a path forward to reduce the carbon footprint of mission rock

based on a san francisco average slower than reducing that further because the shared water and shared energy plan this is extremely technically challenged but for the opportunity of the scale where we have use of multiple different building types of course, one of the biggest viral challenges is sea level rise i'll finish by briefly touching on the strategy for that which involved raising the center of site so mission rock can withstand 66 inches of sea level rise on the high-end of projections today, we building that with this 75 year lease with the port is important to plan for that we believe this protects up to the year 2017 the area in yellow outside of the bound basically the elevation

the streets we can ramp up slowly and in the finish for the elevation other parcels will be at the higher elevation this is a cross section through china basin park as jack showed the renderings you see we have an edge feeling planting open the edge this is designed only for the hundred year flood condition on the 66 edge evaluation not a normal floated condition but think this is important to have the strategies along the edge and give us great conditions on the working waterfront and can combine important policies around production within the city and sea level rise resiliency in one urban form a great opportunity that was a quick dive through the details we here and

available to answer any questions and thank you for your time. >> great, thank you. >> we're going to open up for public comment and then i'm sure commissioners will have questions and thoughts so at this point any public comment on this item. >> okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much pretty exciting to continue to see the mission bay residents and looking forward to siege more i have one quick question obviously we have not seen you know full project and all the details but the schematics we see i don't really see sort of the connection we've envisioned with the greenway some of the schematics on open space around the properties i don't see how you have that sort of way of getting around you should be

getting all the way down to the base i thinin basically. >> go ahead. >> so i'm in the bicycle slide i think that is the best one to show the bay trail that will come up france way a wide street that allows for pedestrian plaza and then it connects through the china basin park with the full edge of the bay travel that is shown in brown on this slide up to the north part and then swishes east and goes in that connects to the embarcadero or cross third street and yes,

through the mission street mission bay and mission creek it's a big part of focus and designed that for both bicycle and personal water connections i know the water trail is coordinated that that. >> cool. >> commissioner vice president richards and i see commissioner johnson seeing this happen he strongly support this i think bosco reminds that one of the questions i have is we had a meeting here at planning the other day and talking about the central soma and avkd retail and the mtc along one of the boulevards and the director asked the question we've struggled with at what point it the retail over sat r59d i look at the one plus of retail with the population permits projected

with any retailed corridor - we have drop the jobs are they don't go out for lunch they go home after work can you comment on that have you studied do you think this is a lot of retail space i like the >> it is a that's a great question and one that we have to answer in context of where mission rock is situated mission bay itself has been a neighborhood that has grown with thousands of new residents when you look at the ratios of the retail for mission bay it is underserved. >> right so. >> what we're addressing with the up to two hundred plus

ground floor at mission rock is not physically to serve mission rock ambassador but for the whole 10 minute walking radius that includes thousand of residents despite for more serving retail like restaurants and childcare and coffee shops and dry cleaning that do exist in mission bay we see part of broader element and i think it works with that in the numbers reflect that. >> i like it definitely like it i think our on point and another grateful could be the vacant rate can you track it and see how well, that's in the future but. >> on king street and mission bay difficulties maintaining the - part of the reason is that

those retail environment were more of an afterthought in the curated in a way but we spent a lot of time thinking about not only thesized of the retail establishment but the interface with the sidewalk is and so mission bay an under retailed and they want an island to meet up with friends or do errands that is changing you can tell but there was a real human cry from the neighborhood to create an experience to be a concentration of retail that worked as a unit to have a gathering place mission bay and that was identified as what was one of the chief things that was missing that the neighbors

wanted that's it what we think a demand and the number of people who work visit and many mission bay to support the retail and i don't think there are any roll call controls not a martin luther king but like this to be a designation for how you come down if the castro and walk on water and those shops to the divisadero but caution you want it not to turn into a mall usa. >> that's our mantra we're doing something unique here we looking at the whole district as a whole in a typical retail streets different owners that make decisions based on that was good for you the rents we'll make decisions what is good for the entire district we're not

necessarily looking retail brown-bag a driver and two looking at holistic retail offerings to i think we have a formula for success sometimes, it is challenging in an urban environment where everyone is outside the person who pays the most rent a formula retail. >> good answer. >> i'll be supportive of this project watched it there the port commission and is have to say it's association with the giants and commissioner vice president richards about the level of quality and see what the giants do from a curation their experience perspective that will carry on to the whole center of mission bay and a great chance for mission bay to be fantastic with its retail 40 percent accountable is a loft i

didn't goal and sea level rise for the city to be the corner and be the benchmark for sea level rise mitigation a question maybe for staff curious take us through the timeline as far as approvals with the port because we're in sort of this jurisdiction where planning accompanies and the port and mission bay has the timeline what's the timeline of approvals where is that at. >> bill as the heavy binder. >> it is a complex array i think from the port has a better handle on the totality but the planning commission will be responsible for the certification of the eir and adapting the zoning and

recommending the entitlement. >> josh like the arena in the planning commission had the bubble was approved and we had the eir and some of the designs. >> not exactly like that you're talking about the warriors rather than the planning commission had limited jurisdiction over that this is not in environment area though the port - the extra layer of the property and other state overlays makes that a little bit different in an our traditional - >> okay. thank you. >> commissioners phil with the port thank you for your question regarding approvals i'll start out with high-level approvals for the context i think jack mentioned we expect this to be leading up to a final eir in the middle of 2015 that moves the

transaction documents and the board of supervisors and other agencies as required i think the development agreement as mention as well and ios transaction documents we should be seeking approval all of next year so approximately, one year 9 months but commissioner president fong your question for the approvals maybe the design maybe going forward we are working on this structure as part of that and do anticipate you know some kind of bifurcation of duties in the report in the northern waterfront and the advisory committee and the planning commission and anticipate stepping up improvements like that for this deciding what the role will be in parts of project with the authority over right now the thinking on the open spaces and public parks and streets and leaving them out of the session per say on the vertical designs which are

primarily addresses with the planning department staff to devise the project that will come before you. >> okay. thank you that's good. >> commissioner koppel. >> yeah. he wanted to thank the giants first of all, for being a 3 time champion and to they're continuing to support and help san francisco grow 20 years ago or so the neighborhood was not much of anything right now we are creating another designation for parts of town i really like the layout of the parks on the water and the parking separate creating the shared public ways looked at this and saw it as a ferry building in the hayes valley that is approachable and pedestrian friendly that encourages activities i do like

the sustainability commitments the fact that location will be very unimposed and have a potential for the renewable energy resources looking forward for hearing more about that later and the jobs that will be created after the project is completed and the tens of thousands construction jobs that will be created during the timeline of construction will just help san francisco residents keep building san francisco. >> commissioner moore. >> i appreciate 9 project i think that is a missing tooth in mission bay somehow suburban like the highest entity projects for the port i think it adds a critical mass in that particular site to tie the more residential parts of mission bay further to

the south with the ball park and now your facility and the stadium what i appreciate you're taking a very much urban approach by sub dividing the project with the previous plans for mission bay failed we're into the idea of the san francisco neighborhood and this two questions i'd like to ask one is on lot d-2 i see a health of one hundred feet when i look at our land use plan i'm not sure i'm properly reading this it talks about the structure am i reading that can you explain that parking space is absent of a failure of mission bay they create those long nothingness i'm wondering since our teeing it up urban why does the garage have to be in that part.

>> that's a great question i'll put the slide to that land use map the site right away right now is as far as one of the challenges how do we continue that urban need the ball park itself is the highest mobile thing of any ball park in the country but requires a certain amount of parking when he designed the garage that was something we've spent a lot of time and i give a lot of credit to our staff when we first start the conversation years ago all of that site was actually all of d was the parking parking garage and how does that feel from the edge and we have now added the

residential building along third street and you don't see the ground floor plan on the ground floor this is retail wrapping up along bridge and from the ground floor from the pedestrian experience you'll see residential building and have coffee shops and have a place to get our clipper card ticket and an entrance to take you into the garage we've been very aware of fact this infrastructure demand has to be coordinated with the urban and on the south side of that d-2 the longer it run of parking a requirement to have a treatment on that so it can't come out to the edge of that lot you - it wouldn't be expressed as parking structure, if you

will, we're going to tuck it away other than the residential building on the west side was to chief that along the ground floor. >> i think that is good ultimately there are garages they cost more money but designed tor building without looking necessarily like garages to fill them up with the same question on this side of the project could you explain what you mean by neighborhoods street zones whether we talked about the warriors stadium and the office building pulling the plaza away from third street there were a lot of these concerns how do we keep the street animation at the streets edge since you're not describing if i don't understand what the neighborhood street zone means.

>> and for those it is a diagram towards the end of the package it is about neighborhood serving. >> this is the tip metrological my apologies they come from the design control book so it is related to the fact we have those different qualities and feels of the different streets therefore different design controls and requirements for them the neighborhood street is what we call the 3 streets the yellow ones ♪ diagram and the neighborhood streets means those are areas that are not the high street retail with a lot of restaurants or retailed not the shared public way and not the working waterfront that is a maritime

quality to it it just a neighborhood street that's the word we gave to those 3 streets that have the quality of experience there they're all 60 feet and have bike lanes and various degrees and retail not as densely contained as high street and have different requirements for lobbies and how residential and office buildings enter into those different street topologies >> if i understand you correctly the animation because of lobbies and entrances and other signs that are on the street. >> maybe he christine off the top of my head every thirty feet for residential. >> 3 doorways per linear feet

for commercial around activation. >> thank you. >> thank you, chris teen. >> i'm interested in seeing this move forward thank you. >> commissioner hillis i'm supportive and glad to see this completing mission bay because we see it developed just to follow up on commissioner moore comment on parking you set an extremely high bar you've done a great job balancing the need for parking and to be a more urban experience how has that split change or it remains constant throughout. >> when we opened the ball park we had three hundred designated parking spaces and 11 thousand spaces in the 15 minute walk zone approaching the ball

park and as we've seen development grow and in missing e mission bay those spaces are dwindled now approximately 27 hundred to 3 thousand that concludes my remarks we use for the ball park it is slightly reduces when we started and we've noticed that the travel patterns of patrons to the ball park has changed people are using public transportation at a greater did degree and people are walking and other modes bicycling more so than when they opened the ball park so today 223 hundred spacious on lot a and let spaces in pier 48 did totality of the spaces under our control in the ball park not entirely used and that will be used to be completely over prescribed some reductions in parking based on people

familiarity with 09 forms of transportation when we started we had a 50/50 split on a week day a higher split and weekend lower split based on people's travel pagers twrm the park and less parking and cars when we opened the ball park and so we have planned the parking structure to be sort of a step down where we are now and reducing it to the ball park capacity of 2000 less than half what we started with and quite frankly significantly less than what we have today we think that number is the right number in terms of the balancing act we're trying to do with respect trying to make sure that families can come to the ball park we're a regional attraction not just regional but 80 percent from

other places we're trying to balance all these goals i think we've done a great job with coming up with an ideal mexico. >> the other thing you did a great job of showing precedence and i like the mission rock and i don't know if the giants ball park is part of a that but the same way you looked at the retail use but how the parks operate along the water maybe too much recreation area in china basin park extremely actively along the waterfront before you a grassy area and less in the port spaces you coming out come off the water less use you being a sports team

makes me wonder is there more room for other fields as someone that drives from treasure island to the little league i'd much rather come here. >> we as advocates for more passive recreation that we prefer and then there is all the needs for space in the city for active recreation so we have a t ball field designed for use up to 8 to 10 years of age for baseball and slides and play areas we expect the grace will be soccer and pick up and festivals and other activities we believe that the park is trying to serve diverse needs we've programmed in the park different zones within the park if you wanted to go and have a passive setting and sit by little water aid read a book a

place for you and bring our fafrm and get a burger and play baseball and run around with a kite a place for you we're trying to design the park so we can create different rooms for the park that can principally use for diversity activities you see in the render a green space but our goal to be heavily used programmed regularly enough to be viewed as a community asset we're trying to balance those needs and mindful of what you're talking about so if more eyes more people that go to the park more users the park will seem safe and more of an advocate we're mindful of that we don't have any other structured fields around the t ball field but have space as you can see.

>> one brief addition we started exploring this was the yard at mission rock the shipping container pop up vinyl we started too years and programming like movie night in the park with 5 hundred families come down to that an unwarranted soccer that runs kind of micro fields so we're starting to think about prototypes those uses that may go into the park i also wanted to mention for commissioner moore an update on the numbers in their inadequate the 3 doors per hundred square feet that is one door per one hundred feet on the neighborhood streets if you're taking notes. >> i'll add i'm part of san francisco theatre we do the movie nights in delores park 7 thousand people come to watch a

free movie a demand for those consul activities and basically offering one more great space like delores park for those activities fantastic. >> thank you very much and thank you to staff and looking forward to the next time we see you guys. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to item 9 for the community development practice group informational presentation. >> commissioner, i might introduce this briefly call it a couple years ago we created a consul or community development few minutes ago in the agreed to a number of staff who were not doing typical land use work but more hands on work in various parts of the city so we thought that would be good to introduce you to that team and the work the scope of the work they're

working on marlow has that and do most of the presentation thank you. >> thanks good afternoon commissioner president fong and sxhichgs and members of the board i'm mary boo low i'm at project sponsor of the citywide division i'm pleased to be here to present to you along with my team a relatively new initiative we're calling community equality and opportunities let me introduce the rest of our team hear from us (calling names) we been collaboratively over one year and look forward to sharing our mission and values and work

we're happy then to answer any questions after the discussion so you're familiar with the challenges con fronts gentrification and themes discussions over little past few years along with decisions of rising ejections and affordability gaps those trends are devastating to the san franciscan and people of color the decline is the most troubling evidence what is happening in the city in response to the country's the mayor's office worked with a supported the planning commission in the creation of the effort with the citywide decision the idea to adapt people rather than a place basis approach to working with communities one that is collaborative and transactional rather than transitional

this centers around the building of trust and relationships that is going on rather than revolving around a project or plan so with the mayors support we hired a new series of colleagues who brought to the mix experience around community engagement and racial equality we define the team as to shift - whoops - sorry so we defined our mission as elevating the community voices to have opportunity it generate meaningful engagement and meets the needs of the eventual community i'm going to turn it over to andy nelson. >> before i do that i might

interreject you've not met andy he's been working for the department and worked all over california with transportation and neighborhood policy and community engagement she received her master english other overland college and introduce danielle been with the department over the year at urban had been at and holding e oakland's earned here duality masters if ucla so we welcome them to the commission. >> thanks john. >> good afternoon, commissioners andy nelson department staff so our team a drooeven by i collective values that include on the slide relationships and trust

racial and social equalities and diversity and inclusive it and reflection and accountability you may remember this slide our team efforts indicator the priorities we have a number of objectives and they're all listed on the slide i'm going to highlight two of these we work with the community members and build relationships we have the advocates of the community we see ourselves as connectors we collaborate with community and city family members to develop the initiative approaches for the solving of issues as marlow said our approach is people centered i'll speak to one of them we connect the community

members to data and city context for example, the tenderloin growing interest among the organizations to better understand how the neighborhood is changing i'm sure you've all heard they want to develop the strategies and insure that changes are leveraged to benefit the existing community there are many pubically available data sources but they left a few unanswered questions and challenging for the normal layperson to assess so we developed a summary development as a response to the interest of the community members in the station i'm going to turn it over to claudia to talk about the key efforts. >> good afternoon, commissioners claudia department staff so the mission action plan one example of the people approach that andy and marlow have mentioned a community

initiative was to trying to built on the establishment of working collaboratively when we work on the mission area plan in the eastern hub the people's plan but map 2020 is collectively over the past years build on the greater affordability and a rich diverse neighborhood the focus of map 2020 on to take the focus of displacement and rapid neighborhood as mentioned at the beginning that greatly accelerated the neighborhood after the end of the great recession beyond collaboratively on the solutions and product we've been focused on building the trust. >> director rahaim has been part this working with the groups one from the community and one from the city to

understand all the constraint that impact the community and more importantly to stabilizing the neighborhood by emphasizing the impact of the people that are vulnerable the focus on map 2020 is ouchless scientific issues and on the people and less on the space aspects of planning. >> we're working on the tenderloin that will urban design the displacement initiate the excelsior since our approach is on people not on geography we're supporting the black community through the black san francisco initiative and working on a racial plan for the department which my colleague danielle will talk about next.

>> hi, i'm danielle tieftd excited to be here touch on the next thing and deeper dive into the action plan the effort i've been leading with 15 other folks in our department. >> so just for - we're currently working on together our community education youth program we recognize one of the of the gaps around the information between the city and community how can we create better access to share the information been the planning department and community another thing developing the better understanding around equality and displacement a number of folks working on that effort and again, the implementation of map 2020 process over the next year and starting to delve into the work in the excelsior and glad to bring on a new staff person

that requires a lot of staff power the better to do the work i'll quickly define equality i think outside the box it is important we use that word and don't want it to be the word sustainability so this is a great graphic he invite you to use it anytime you can a lot of time we talk about equality and fairness the notion of equality everyone gets the same anonymous and equality the people get the same when you think about racial equality we're talking about one racial identities didn't nothing else their outcomes so that against there this is a implication when we talk about how we're looking at the community no cookie-cutter proechlz it pushes us to think

more deeply about communicated that have needed more over the course of history and need more now how to provide overseeing additional resources to the community so our racial equality plan consistent of components first of all, we have to look inward how our department hold out the cause for the equality in terms of hiring our diversity within the department our internal processes not only public by the way, those internal processes how urban we think again our community engagement strategies where our resources will gave me the community we're looking at our programs and policies and how to engage the plans and projects what are

the policies and code the racial equality plans is come about over the course 15 are prarpts in training alerting with a number of different jurisdictions around the region we've been getting a deeper understanding of racism and the battle tested skilled best practices from other cities including seattle we're novelist revivent the wheel and a broader body of people across the country and one of the most exciting kind of pieces of momentum in the next year there is a couple of different represented from about 10 agencies that will have the leaning so i can enumerate at a

later date but 10 to 12 agencies have committed staff time to dig both the racial equality for the next year and obviously hopefully be on that forever that's all for you and that's all so thank you for having us. >> thank you very much opening it up for public comment on this informational item. >> seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner melgar >> sure. >> go ahead. >> thank you very much for the presentation i'm really looking forward to what specifically you guys are able to accomplish with the planning department but to make sure that communities understand technical issues and are able to act on them thank you. >> i guess a couple of comments i think this is a fantastic initiative way to move

forward we've seen project very big projects in the community you might be targeting is only and hope where literally we've having had zero speakers from the neighborhood i want to see more feedback from those folks we have emergency situations we had projects 200 people worked on the commission and like to be harder there is a goal here the mix action plan is a concrete deliverable that come out of initiative it is big and broad and covers so month policies beyond planning i want to make sure that over time when things get take place we as commissioners don't forget being map 2020 let's keep tallies what we're able to see if we're successful or not i look forward

to you coming and going and checking in self-defense money well spent any other commissioners. >> no thank you very much great work. >> commissioners, that places you under item 10 exempting landmarks from the november 2016 ballot measure prop x planning code amendment. >> hi diego sanchez with department staff i'll be presenting the ordinance to then landmark buildings from conditional use and displacements requirement we're proposing to convert distribution and pdr spaces our activity spaces and institutional uses ic used commissioner 24 orientals would typically have gone before the historic preservation commission

before you before consideration and today's hearing had the hpc recommendations in the packet unfortunately due to a scheduling conflict continuation not scheduled until 2018 you may, of course, continue the item at any point until the historic preservation commission has considered it each commission is a separate commission as a gesture to the hpc i wanted to take the duty to bring that to light if you feel you definitely need the historic preservation commission recommends i think supervisor kim's office will be here momentarily but i'll continue. >> please. the commissioners the department is trying to balance between two

competing needs with the pdr spaces the first the need for older buildings to readaptly reused and the ic spaces go ahead. >> okay. >> staff does have a set of recommendations two recommendations for clarification but the substantive recommendation that's the limit i xhefrj of one hundred or 50 percent of pdr arts or ic space whatever is less and limit this to buildings with landmark status of july 1st, 2006, to limit the total conversion from any projects awhile allowing the adequate amount of space to convert and to contravene the

amount of buildings for this exemption that concludes my presentation. would like to allow april from supervisor kim's office to present to you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners april from supervisor kim's office thank you for considering this legislation today. >> thank you to diego sanchez in preparation for the planning department staff report the supervisor and her colleagues put this ballot measure on the ballot concerned about the loss of pdr arts and small business spaces and nonprofit space here in san francisco and the voters diego put in his staff report overwhelmingly supported this if you're drafting this legislation a request to consider historic buildings and the impact of historic buildings as it relates

to this legislation at the time, we didn't have enough information to understand the full scope of what historic buildings would be affected and so we pursued this low trailing legislation and included the ballot measure to allow the board to amend legislation in the future with 2/3rd's vote and so just by the way, way of background in the drafting of the legislation we attempted to identify different ways that a project sponsor might be able to pursue replacement requirement we did work at offsite and in lui fee options but at the time, we decided to pursue this in trailing legislation and so the legislation calls out replacement spaces to be new and that is where it currently

conflicts with buildings that would like to do adapt active reuse and include the pdr spaces in their buildings i think from the staff report it also identified that historic buildings have also a cost to maintaining their use as historic that is unique and that we might consider some allowance to historic buildings and that squares the trailing legislation is before you today to balance the desire to keep historic buildings also to preserve some level of pdr from in the buildings and to say that should the project sponsor building preserve at least 50 percent of their use at pdrs

exempt from the replacement requirements we're in arraignment with the planning department of the lessor 49 thousand square feet or 50 percent i think that is a appropriate recommendation and on the other recommendations that diego also put forth i'm here and available for any questions and thank you for your time and consideration. >> thank you. any questions fellow commissioners. >> from the - >> okay opening it up for public comment i i have no speaker cards. >> any public comment on this agenda item number ten? >> good afternoon, commissioners spike with the

factory the prop x legislation was a compromise between what what we need woeb replacement of pdr space when a blue-collar job producing warehouse gets torn down and condos are respected at least the empowering should be pdr space so prop x was chiseled away now to chisel away further and make more and more exemption this is not you guys job in my opinion you guys job to help preserve the pdr space a ghost ship pdr space in oakland was a catastrophe but artists were working and living in a space that because not enough not enough pdr space for the arts

and not enough pdr space for the blue-collar working community and by having such a demand for space and then you guys see what we passed in the election it is unconscionable and on behalf of all the artists working out of their kitchens not enough pdr spaces to be safe and live and sprinklers and fire codes compliance to say no let's more and more of those catastrophes will happen in the future not enough space i know you've got a recommendation to accept more exemption you have to reject it in again why we're another where we are and prop x is too

important don't further weaken it. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi my name is peter i'm the owner of the san francisco - on 14 and mission this is obviously prop which direction with the legislation in place no easy way to change for a small portion and use it for something else no place for pdr with the building operating a historic building is incredibly expensive and thirty years to this day has no heating system you understand why prop x no sprinklers and fire system and building 3 columns in the roof to exit the building safely this work could gone it is

necessary no sprinklers the building is not in use responsible use i have currently about one employees operating in a building that is 2000 square feet is sparesly used i've treatment to rent it with pdr with not success because no accessibility so this exemption make sense it is a modest size of this and enable me to borrow the money to make that useful and working closely with sfmade tomato misses the basement and as a matter of fact for pdr and a bunch of other people. >> thank you very much. is there any additional public comment on this item.

>> good afternoon, commissioners peter today, i'm speaking on behalf of mission economic development agency and united to say the committee in looking at this piece of trailing legislation first of all, we do want to thank supervisor kim's office and everyone that worked on that legislation it is a significant help towards lowering the loss of pdrs uses a cit critical time we have concerns where this doe would lead with the preservation are important there are potentially impacts when we looked at spec at a project like the armory that is proposing a huge office conversion that will be people monarchy we're talking about hundreds and hundreds of conversion of hundreds and

hundreds of people earning the size working and living in in area right now we think that is critical that we think about those gentrification you have the two corridors in the central class under great pressure north mission street in the first 2 1/2 blocks 10 project proposals on 10 blocks 10 thousand upscale workers and residents to this area the latino cultivate district 7 projects in that small area currently in proposal we are concerned about the cumulative impacts increase in scenario yes, it is true those buildings are more expensive to operate needs to be take into consideration and in terms of how much can be converted and

how frequently the 10 year timeline you could phase outbuildings we want to see that longer as well and how could the san francisco since it is a critical issue participate in helping the buildings which again, the blocks are cheap the old pdr use historic buildings and i want to point out that the pdr despite prop x it is true that pdr is disappeared as a rapid rate under the eastern neighborhoods plan and few of the projects in the huge pipeline of 67 projects fall under prop x because not pdrs uses or their ncts not part of prop x or smaller than the delineated size for prop x i wanted to address a point pdr to pdr conversion is i think can be

worked out perfectly fine and we could a have to change to eliminate it. >> thank you peter any additional speakers on this item seeing none, i guess i'll start so i guess mr. sanchez the this supply narrowly to a housing unit of building to individual landmarks; correct? to serve after 2006 how many building is that. >> we prepared a map as we determine i can show it up here we found overseeing building one including the armory this is the building and this is the pipe organ company this those are the 3 we're aware of. >> so the square footage of those 3 buildings one and 75 for

the armory lost total pdr space i'm guessing we'll be looking millions of square footage that is can couple of thousand combined. >> yeah. a couple hundred thousand the armory has one and 60 the best thing on the building under 10 thousand i couldn't find anything on the work because of the high residential and non-residential we're not sure of the pdr and i imagine one hundred thousand and the total square footage of the pdr in the eastern neighborhoods is - >> that i don't know. >> i guess the question then for the gentleman if you don't mind thank you mr. sanchez. >> so we have two actions to

allow one of the two sites for a different use a new pdr obviously but you said you can get financing because of a chance maybe non-pdr use can you help us. >> yeah. what if i got an entitlement for a small portion of the building is a office 49 thousand square feet that will enable me to get a loan to do what is necessary to get the building up to code the point the work is necessarily and whether or not it is pdr we'll say so this will create not eliminate pdr jobs. >> thank you. >> any other commissioners. >> i can continue. >> please do. >> commissioner johnson. >> no, go ahead i'm thinking.

>> i'm trying if no one else on the roll i'll keep on going so i have to entertain a motion nobody has pushed the bottom that is like a catch-22 we have a narrow will i didn't understand organ company is prewood building used i drive by it all the time the other building i don't know about but this will benefit the armory i get it that will be beneficial so this large building that reads a lot of things i've been in the armory several times with a gala event this year we wander around the building a big building a friend of mine used to this have a space like a you role a bowling ball you don't

hit anybody the trade off would be do we allow this this move forward to allow the 49 thousand square feet can you do any more with the 49 thousand plus in order to fund we have to allocate it from the small cap but in order the fund the additional pdr jokes there is a public policy trade off that is where i see this framed as to me not a bad trade off we want to keep it up and increase more pdr jobs but i think the cost of maybe allowing a little bit of non-pdr space as part of building under a completely separate entitlements not something we're deciding today but taking a step to allow that commissioner hillis. >> so a couple of questions take the armory for instance,

that will come back to us for the conversion of some pdr space. >> yeah. they'll need to come back for an office allocation i think they have an application with us. >> an office allocation not for the conversion. >> if the redemption goes through they'll be exempt from the conditional use i believe and the project will come back to you in one form of another. >> for the office allocation. >> yeah. >> i think the trouble i'm having i get it, i sympathize with the armory not a twalz pdrs building with an office building o office use it a unique animal in this case but there is a problem i have we think back to you know we have on the books an exemption or cu process in the

industrial areas we saw being used if it is a historic building with the landmarks they talk about kind of the issues of maintenance and had the cu to try to convert it was interesting legislation to stop them from doing that the showplace square building and so i think that's my concern you know it seems on one way or another we're trying to do something for a building that is unique and i'm sympathetic but trying to pass protective or recommend changes to legislation and there is a tension i mean the armory is a building we could look at individually in some - we don't know what the rest of the space will be used for i think that a maybe the better

way to do this than the legislation that tries to help that situation but could drag other things we don't want to chase and keep it. >> if i can add we put together a map of improvements that are identified as being able to become landmarked in some process we zoom out we found 35 and we - >> your recommendation for the legislation will take those off the table. >> yes. and you'll have to be landmarked. >> it seems like were turning ourselves to try to get the armory why not address the armory and look at that. >> sure. >> i think that is unique no other building with a huge drill you know - and right now the armory will have a replacement we need a cu and the legislation will also, if we let the wlfks

go as promoted other buildings can take advantage of that and you know are we opening the floodgates we're trying to address those competing goals with the retention and - awhile allowing older buildings to garner invests. >> yeah. yeah looked at a specific project that the armory may want to and yeah. i welcome our comment if you want to comment on that? yeah. thank you my understanding we'll have to come back with any project office specifically i i mean it will be a cu we have to come back and make our case opening the door going before the board of supervisors >> you can say no and what

else are reopening the door to (multiple voices). >> i think to clarify what this trailing legislation does it exempts the historic buildings from the requirement of prop x assembling not doing the replacement pdr they have to follow the entire community process to prop x passes it is a building like the armory want to convert has to go to the conditional use and through the process have community meeting this remains the same as far as i'm concerned, and i've worked with that that remains the same without the trailing legislation the armory and other historic building will not go through a process it is a non-starter they can't replace the pdr.

>> why not go to the amendment for a code for the armory if there is a project. >> i mean a that's a great question we worked with supervisor jane kim's office and it makes sense and it was not realized that building but it was actually discussed from before the legislation this was the discussions and i know there are groups concerned about the historic landmark not just the armory but in general the historic landmarks they have sent the letters in the heritage and the california historic historically society. >> its a difficult building we have to figure out to rework it on the other side we were a conversion or exemption for the building to do more with a

historic building if workout so well, we're looking at eliminating it like showplace square. >> so specific to the armory by allowing this to do this they'll be able to use the capacity for pdr it will there the capacity for pdr in the existing space if you're in the space there is not infrastructure to bring in addition companies or pdr uses you because it is a big open place as peter said fire safety hazards and those kinds of in fact, working with sfmade we better utilize the working space. >> commissioner melgar. >> so i can remember all of those years the armory was empty before it was acquired i think several proposals and some of the proposals from condos in the

arcades and movie theaters the number are difficult to pencil out the didn't work so i did not know that i think this is a chipping away of warehouse i think i can work with this you know legislation i think small it is a small footprint to try to deal with that and like i said, i looked at those numbers you know for many years so i do know i can live with that. >> i remember being on the board of san francisco heritage and seeing the plans to we worked through those numbers as well i can voltage for commissioner melgar. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much yeah. i agree i agree with commissioner hillis and don't see this legislation is necessarily there are