>> 5:53 p.m. i want to start off by acknowledging the tragedy in oakland ghost ship fire at

the entertainment commission we were fortunate to have a body like us to protect and safeguard all over the place look after the folks coming into san francisco to enjoy the art life anyway want to acknowledge and accepted our love and respect to the families and victims of this fire i know there is a lot work we're leaders in open about night life and how to keep it assessable and how to keep a thriving underground, too, and so that's work i think we'll be looking forward to doing and so i encourage everyone out there in tv land and the public to really support our commission but also the work in continuing the underground community of

artist and musicians here in the bay area and san francisco with that, we'll start roll call and go ahead with our meeting. >> want to do a couple of announcements. >> oh, yeah, he forgot before a roll call a few announcements please turn off cell phones and keep them on silent not to disturb the preceding and secondly, if you're a member of the public and want to make public comment do so when i call you and public comment speaker cards to fill out beforehand and to the staff and finally thank you to sfgovtv and media serves for airing this meeting live to the public every time we meet now go ahead with the roll call. >> commissioner perez commissioner thomas commissioner caminong

commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner frost president tan. >> everyone is here. >> would you a full house. >> i want to acknowledge that tonight is the loose formal commission meeting even if audrey joseph who has been here from the beginning of the entertainment commission so i'll spare parting words later but want to acknowledge that and thank her for her amazing decade plus of service on the entertainment commission so - >> yep. this is not the last time you'll side her but in this room in this way all right. we'll start off with general public comment any any public comment on items not on the agenda you want to make for the commission not seeing any, we'll

move on and approve the minutes from october 18th commissioners i don't know if you have any things to change from that otherwise do a motion >> move to approve. >> there's is motion a second. >> i'll second. >> great any public comment on the minutes let's vote. >> start from this side commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner caminong commissioner thomas commissioner perez and president tan that item passes move on to item number 3 discussion and possible action to make recommendations on the board of supervisors file number 1 61064 and building it is a modification to our current - yeah. is it anyway actually i'll not data it but pass it on

to the director. >> thank you commissioners we passed the legislation objective well supervisor breed passes it to do all the work we've been doing around the residential development of the entertainment venue it certainly was a big heavy lift when we started and at some point down the road it was clear when people slept was an issue and those are not initially in the legislation so i went back to the well and asked supervisor president london breed's office to add the molt, hotel used for the 2016 work again continue to protect night life as much as possible with the development

that comes in within three hundred feet we went through the process coner johnston is here to thank you about this legislation you are more familiar than what it does so commissioner will be brief or maybe not he likes to do the whole thing because he's so cute. >> it is a hard introduction to live up to coner johnston. >> do it connor. >> chief supervisor president breed i'll try to make that quick that is the speech in planning it is much more official i'm sprinkle the jokes as jocelyn mentioned last year the board amazing supported and passed supervisor president london breed night life preservation protecting the music venues within the neighborhoods and the legislation is fundamentally a

three-legged stool and a lot of it will be reviewed because all of you in the room helped to draft the first leg the venues are pretended to be sued if within the permits and the second leg the landlord and realtor to disclose to tenants that is a venue nearby and the third leg to have a hearing with the developer and the musk venue whenever a i development is within three hundred feet of a music venue and the planning commission to consider recommendations how those uses what co-exist that last leg is fundamentally the most important part of law to help the land uses in the dense land use neighbors worker rather than against each other after the fact people are unhappy and

changing things p is less difficult the law is we like to brag the first of its kind in the country thank you for being petitioner of that and thank you to the executive director for putting up with me so today's amendment we established the authority to work on music development but as jocelyn mentioned the commission should be involved in the hotel venues right now you're dealing with conflict between union square and the night life venue likewise issues with jessie street and hotels are complaining through the staff they're having to refund people's room their ratings are down and your mission manages those after the cat is out of

the bag or the cow and the barn or worse i don't know so your staff has to insure that the venues are in compliance working with the management of the hotel and forced to do 24 after the fact - to supervisor breed amendment good afternoon the entertainment commission to address the concerns between night life and post hotels before those hotels are approved it is a preying issue according to jocelyn a dozen hotels in the pipeline and most have night life nearby there are 3 open pipeline hotels between three hundred feet of airport and the fusion lounge in union square most hotels have night life nearby because they want to be in neighborhoods that are more active and engaging that's where the guests want to stay and

they're more denser we have to make sure that both parties are good neighbors both the venue and the hotel night life and live music not only bring in over one bloimdz into the local community but help to define who we are as a city i want to end with a quote from benny imagine you know from the culture and music association a bar owner the 2015 legislation you helped us pass entered the legend no legislation has helped the night life in decades it was landmarked with those amendments with the strength we can canned it to a new category and even more to fight for night life entertainment in the city and dense neighborhood i want to briefly pout this legislation is

support by sfmta as well the hotel council and we last week got unanimous support from the small business commission which i hope we can receive from our commission and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> so thank you, again, for helping supportive this effort. >> want to go wow. for your presentation that was great i have a question that will not say cover the or less developed hotels that are existing for the night life. >> no. >> commissioner frost. >> someone is in the process of building a hotel what process will this go into effect that's a great question with the existing legislation open the existing development we are a grandfather process for projects in the pipeline when the legislation based paw i but fundamentally in those this is on the front end for the initial

authorization do you want to expand on that point jocelyn. >> right so we did try in layman's terms when we see passed the other one for the taller than the and worked backwards into the pipeline i guess we should pursue again looking bog the pipeline a lot of development coming it means for us we'll be running quicker out of the box we have to set up now to deal with that dentally capture most in the pipeline if the building permits are issued are we're too late no way to be able to do anything but prior to that and i think we could capture a lot of those i hope we can do. >> do you have a sense on the

number i know the last time around you were able to do shoes amount in the pipeline. >> you said it 12. >> 12. >> that that the hotel molt pipeline you can count them not necessarily as many but bring projects we heard 950 market part of that they grabbed them by accident. >> i want to ask you are those hotels potentially entertainment permits. >> of course. >> but primarily they are hotels. >> right. >> even if they're not covered by this legislation will still be beneficial for the discussions with them that is

and their advised what they can do to minimize their construction so down the line if it comes back we did warn you so - >> i love that idea. >> we wander you commissioner thomas had a comment. >> if you look at the three-legged stool you'll hear the purchase is fundamentally to do two things to get the parties are parties talking and influence the commissioners opinion if planning department has arrested issued the approval that is too late to influence but, but always an opportunity to get the parties together and have direction for the supervisors legislatively saying this is an important policy direction whenever.

>> once the planning is approved the construction process is also a place to have negotiation power still i think that is something we've heard definitely from the concerns of theirs commissioner thomas. >> first of all, thank you for tackling go down to this a conflict we don't have the tools to address thank you for doing that will this be triggered by the status of the volunteering with that type of status to change. >> let me community-based into the weeds and let's pull up the definition so this is a definition to be 116.2 the new language is development permit number 4 the project proposes the new construction of a molt or hotel to a change of a hotel

and molt use and defines use so, yes it is a change of use to motel or hotel not previously one of those and, yes, that will trigger if it is a change of operators i suspect probably not i'm speculating here. >> but those are sro isn't it considered a hotel now an sro. >> i'll guess. >> i mean. >> i'm not sure but i guess we'll learn a lot more about as we go through for the residential - it is certainly possible that will be a process of educating the planner to make sure the notification comes to us as far as the technical question i guess we'll have to find out the answer.

>> either way not considered - either considered hotel or residential i like the way that the director kane said that eir regardless. >> even if a commercial office space converted to a hotel triggered by the brand new development and likewise commercial office space to the conversion as well. >> or if residential apartments that will change the hotel. >> uh-huh. >> yeah. i think the only rental i couldn't answer if it is an sro hotel. >> it is a hotel. >> i remember questioning the use there was an sro that kept coming back to us on 7th street

i think 6th street about some annual i may be wrong but i inquired whether an sro was bona fide hotel and considered a bone fide hotel at the time. >> i think that is because utah we applied for his hotel. >> and the hotel above h s f is an sro but it is considered a hotel. >> uh-huh. >> so those are already hotels and if they change i mean - it wouldn't - there are restrictions on the ability of an owner to change an sro hotel for example, it goes through a process and urban design group certainly i would love for us to be able to intervene as many

places as possible i'll argue for that transition but not intended to encompass those types of uses. >> a whole host of religiousy process making that a cu. >> i applaud your offices work on this stupefy h. >> supervisor breed and yourselves are proven to be night life champions and with the new board of supervisors looking forward to the leadership in big alley supervisor wiener going to the state we'll cultivate more but thank you for the work. >> have you a friend in supervisor president london breed that's for sure. >> you're looking for on action so let's open up for public comment and then we can move is there any public comment

on this item. >> no? all right. public comment is closed. commissioners >> i would love to make a motion in support of this piece of legislation in the name of this commission so i will do so. >> yeah. i think i will second that. >> i mean, i think a member of the residential group committee i think that is proven to be really what's the word added arm of work we have that is protecting night life in the city and i think our venues appreciate it and people don't hardly know about the way we are improving on kind of the community and night life that exists so i think this is added tool is a good one.

>> all right. let's take a vote. >> commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner caminong commissioner thomas commissioner perez president tan. >> that item passes thank you very much. we'll move on to the report from our executive director and staff. >> okay all right. how are you it's been a while not a meeting in a while and this is our last formal meeting of the year as you may know so i was gone for a bit at the time you guys didn't meet and in las vegas representing the entertainment commission with the night life association that is super interesting and it was a descent turnout i've seen

better but the work we're doing including the work we picked up and continue to do that on an international level so connected to that through a different trip altogether i was asked to go to western australia and sidney i did in november it was fantastic he represented at the western australia and got to review a number of times what the entertainment commission is what we do and the techniques and the good work and people were expressed and i went to sidney and spoke to a room of 40 people you know from the lord mayor to all the way down to bureaucratic's sidney is a big place and a lot of work they're doing in music and high-level

policies and don't have any protections like we do on the ground people doing regulations like we do i hope i did you all right of and more and more as we do this kind of work asked to explain what we're doing so next year i'll be in austin twice telling a different group of people and pushing this along with the entertainment commission and how you make night life healthy and responsible and certainly the oakland has made it you know again, a priority to try to reach out to east bay in my way and if any of you can be helpful in that they're kind of still in a grieving space and not necessarily asking for our help we are talking internally at the city level how to make sure what

we do you know in keeping safe basis is not an aggressive posture we identify when there are places that seem at risk and move them to a compliant without punishing artists for open space they mandate want to live in but have no choice in so, anyway that was a great experience i hope to continue to do that i have on the agenda this work that you heard about i'm not going to repeat about the hotel motel but moving a planning commission in january to get it on the calendar this work will be at the board in the first quarter of 2017 holiday party two weeks from tonight i hope y'all got the

invitation i assume it went out how many people maggie and 6 hundred. >> 6 hundred. >> 6 people will show up. >> 6 hundred at the armor club we know many, many people say they'll come and want to be a part of the entertainment commission and want to attend but don't freak out we've freaked out too many times it is really okay. >> so, yeah the only other thing i want to say i put an important date 12, 20 is our party and january we only have one meeting assuming the president will make a decision on the first meeting in january as they usually do in the tenth meeting we'll have to agendize that you can discuss that in

january 17th we have a meeting i have the intention of putting forward a piece of legislation modifying in great detail the ordinance and how we go outdoor sound i might request the commission president consider an additional meeting in january for the purposes of hearing that legislation because it is a big, big piece of legislation i want to put that out there and february date to keep in mind the 6 which is our summit and that will kind take shape as we go along but february 6th if you don't have it in your calendar put it down and lastly inform things that comes up seat 3 is public health and seat 4 which is currently

perez neighborhood seats those seats come up for whenever it is called the. >> reappointment. >> reappointment on july one so in order to be prepared so we don't have vacancies you know consider going forward and letting me know if you're intending to pursue the seat or not and can work on alternatives so - >> that's it unless you have questions. >> hand it over to. >> you're saying just to be clear to have two meetings in january even if the firefighters one is scheduled. >> correct and an additional obviously we'll agendize that. >> and notice it. >> i get it. >> one item. >> yes. >> you think you don't think

you can last and be part of one meeting in january. >> the potential for the number of venues, however, this grows we don't have another proper meeting from now to then. >> got it. >> thanks inspector which inspector want to go first. >> inspector pauly. >> good evening commissioners several things to report probably more than this when you in the interest of time i didn't write down them several complaints received a new complainant about the independent the issue is noise emanating from the venue and want to see of it's from the venue i've not seen it still in the process as - in the process of determining the complaint so

there is action pending going by i'll probably make contact with the venue i received a complaint about, about the cafe november 25th it is a complaint regarding a karaoke night i related to the staff the doorman they should keep their door shut during entertainment not an issue barbecue but nevertheless, i informed the venue to double down and a on making sure they're keeping the door shut and maintaining an environment that didn't bother the neighbors and the loud band and the doors open with the souvend out through this is an issue i managed a year ago and they're doing exactly when what i asked them to do i don't i don't see

that as an issue i talked about with the owner slash manager we got a complaint to make sure keep the doors and all the types of things tight not to defer those things and the edge on 18 street got a complaint regarding karaoke the manager said they don't do karaoke maybe another venue that may or may not have a permit i'll determine what is going on with that. >> is there a karaoke scrooge going on. >> (laughter). >> a lot of karaoke issues i was thinking the same thing maybe 6 or 7 karaoke what's going on i performed an inspection on noriega they're doing karaoke

(laughter) without a permit and they've been getting complaints from nearby neighbors i talked about with pd the neighbors went to the police department we've been in correct and went by and did an inspection this weekend and talked with the manager the owner is out of town and told the manager that basically, their operating out of compliance that's why i was here and know they actually come into the office and in the process of trying to have a mr. haney issue going to the planning department they're in the process of doing that their nevertheless, operating without a permit and that is not the best way to obtain the entertainment permit in the future and going forward you know they get more and more complaints that will escalate

they're owners brother stated they understand the issue and take an action i think we'll end up going by to deal with that they're probably trying to placement eir regardless of not having a permit we'll follow-up and let you know what goes on alamo draft house i did a walk as a result of a complaint from another department that was trying to help out a religious organization they have a bar inside like an 8 to 10 speaker a small system not seems like it would be something that is out of compliance we don't permit what we do there so kind of more of a courtesy and check if their if they're doing entertainment. >> this is our bar all in the

way of the in the middle of the venue a good-sized building and the bar is not that big and isn't it like in the back or middle in a protected area. >> that's exactly what i thought walking in i couldn't hear the bar that loud not loud but conjecturally the waking wall that is shared on the next block over i'm sure they're in compliance but sure the church or religious place can hear them we're trying to get them to work together than deal with an endorsement issue. >> they have some arrest

arcade games again an inspection of a pizza joint with a dj two speakers and you know they're operating without a permit i told them that basically, they need a permit to do this type of thing not loud but the speakers are above the restaurants and regardless of whether it is loud they can hear that on top of in their out of compliance and heroism we'll get them into experience and the received a complaint i did a walk through they had one entertainment event in april but not doing entertainment since i let them know they can get a permit could be in contact with maggie i've not seen the issues

on the karaoke lounge i did a walk through complained about the noise from neighbors the actual karaoke spaces ♪ back of the venue and they only have to close their doors hopefully that solved the issues i'll have to follow-up it is a place that i'll go by and make sure they're coming applying with the direction a couple of minor things not issues revolution cafe received a lot of complaints during the summer about their doors open and in this case they had their doors up and the band started not started yet i walked in and they closed the doors not gotten any complaint so that's fine and stopped by the honey gallery 2,

3, 4 early november had some minor event on a friday and i hadn't been by in a long time i said to see what was going on i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> one comment do you put addresses on this some of these indeed. >> i'll definitely do that 0 not. >> in general, i like to know what this thing neighborhood is about. >> all right. any other thoughts from commissioners thank you commissioner burk not commissioner burk but one day. >> inspector burk.

>> i re-established what ambiance in the alley next to hue i let the operator know where he needs to be we talked about some strategies around limiting their system controlling base within the venue and since this action complaints are ceased it is looking good as far we did get a flerg a neighbors on 24th street in regards to people exiting the exiting the club i stopped by a few weekend in a row and checked out out the exit at grand as

well as people conjugating in a nearby parking lot i have yet to see any issues but keep an eye on and in touch with management at the club and they have told me they'll notifies me when they have a larger event house our new establishment on 11 street and that address is wrong or on my notes there but this is a form b box they have received a complaint one on 11 street the operators currently working directly with complaints and myself to address the concerns including additional soundproofing and skylight encloser a work in process right now. >> so those don't have their

poe permits. >> that's due to one department signing off. >> got it. >> i'm seeing permits their throwing ohio are they going to pay citation after citations. >> there are two notes citations are in progress and hope to have them fully permitted this week. >> great. >> bar flex us at the hotel i did their sound test this weekend a great space they are planning prosecute on opening in a couple of days their sounding good at the because of hotel and a smaller little sound system and looking forward to having a

new live music place around one nov from the pass bar i was doing testing of the ambient levels an 11 street and noticed some base that seemed abnormal i walked down the street i realized that the bar had a private party that was in full swing 10 o'clock at night and turned off the sub would haveer and hoped that things would calm down it didn't i asked them to shut down at 11 o'clock i've yet to hear back we'll let them need to know they need permit throw us if they had that again, i mentions two citations for the house those are stemming from

the lack of place of entertainment and should be good to go bit this weekend another sights from the weekend two conditions on their permit they were violated they couldn't pursues the certification and that's one of the conditions on their permit and i know there are - they took lead training and we're waiting on prove of guard card and a couple of certifications they're in xooeps excess of sound and inspector pauly issued a couple of inspectors to

mention on caramel lounge next to lounge 32 has notified of a change of ownership i visited them and let them know they needed to apply for a permit with us and the armors first event i spent a lot of time on 14 street and mission and look at the security and how security is working and happy to report no complaint from the neighbors and we discussed some minor issues with security and how things might improve going forward other than that things went well, that wraps up any questions please let me know. >> commissioners, any questions. >> i have one question that was not - about the end up any

update on what the status is. >> i've heard nothing sing i've been keeping an eye on this and visit once a weekend since things. >> have been smooth. >> checking with operator and . >> great thanks for keeping an eye on that. >> any public comment on the director report or our inspectors reports. >> nope all right. public comment is closed. move on i think this is why most people are here actually no item 5 police department questions or comments i don't see any police move on to the residential development consent calendar show i introduce this. >> sure if you want to. >> as you may know

commissioners this is just a consent stem i don't need to separate them out to discuss unless someone wants to side or do that if not approve the recommendations to move forward to planning. >> would someone like to make a motion any public comment? all right. would someone like to make a motion >> come on guys. >> thank you commissioner thomas that's a motion is there a second. >> all right. a second take a vote. >> commissioner perez commissioner thomas commissioner caminong commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner frost president tan. >> that item passes and that move on to item 7 which is why most people are here a hearing and possible action with the

permit we have 3 llps tonight so hand to did deputy director. >> why rant the loophole will thats on a consent agenda. >> this is the internal argument amongst you guys so bryan you having wanted them on consent and then. >> director kane. >> my decision i feel like when we don't have other things on calendar and i feel like the folks that are applying for those permits have things to present to you we take them through a process and come here asking for them you should hear about their efforts and it is useful. >> so a matter how much is on the agenda. >> sure. >> okay. >> i really - all right. go

ahead and stick with the agenda as advertised and have those split out so start with bat out of hell la. >> the first applications for the evening located on 565 green street at the wine bar it is primarily using this permit for acoustic and performances with ample modification it is open 7 days a week until 3:00 a.m. they'll end the entertainment by 10110 a.m. they've spoken with the telegraph hill developers and north beach association both of the organizations support this application and have a huge amount of signatures of support 2200 and 75 from patrons at the

top of the pile one letter of opposition from a neighbor that is worried about adding another potential nuisance to this neighborhood as opposed to bagging a complaint on something that is concurring other than that a central station has approved that and to tell you about that is keith and the general manager. >> well hello commissioners i'm keith the owner of bell core that is the general manager own a live music venue on grant avenue call it up a low in operation for 5 years opened a

couple of months ago the most part doing - going to be the space is really space 6 hundred and 50 square feet space inside anything of actual volume will be disruptive to people trying to enjoy a shared place ms. this is a completely different thing than our other place we play live music 7 days a week i can't foresee anyone complaining as we said nelson has gone around to other 0 - core is excited to - been a lot of venues that have closed with jane does music and singer-songwriter places trying to bring that into north beach is the goal to support the musicians in the neighborhood

and give a place for people to have a glass of wine and enjoy the music. >> great commissioners, any questions. >> commissioner perez. >> hello thanks for coming in i think i read somewhere you are reinstating your permit. >> when we had the lp lp we transferred. >> it looked like you did outreach with the question with one neighborhood that had concerns did you try reaching out for the neighborhood. >> i will take blame doesn't send it out. >> will you consider giving them an update on the planned and how you'll keep it quiet. >> this is a general complaint about the neighborhood and then

something on the corner but we'll be doing this is an opportunity to bring the dialogue - you blast everyone out of the restaurant. >> so it is kind of reaching out and no problem and everything will be good. all right thank you. >> all right. other thoughts or questions. >> all right. have a seat. any public comment on bat out of hell core a known public comment is closed. commissioners. >> so i would like it astounds me people might think that is a nuisance like entertainment is a nuisance not okay and in that spirit i'd like to move to approve this.

>> (laughter). second >> there is a motion that has been seconded any further comments. >> commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner caminong commissioner thomas commissioner perez president tan. >> that item passes good luck look forward to more jazz out there all right. our next permit is a c star of the folks from c star want to come up that's fine. >> so c star is at third street there a bar with live music on occasion and plan to host small local band or djs for celebration federal reserve their open 7 days a week and end added 10 they've also spoken with the neighbors and you'll

see approximately, one and 95 signatures and bayview approves that here to talk about that is the owners. >> hello high guys i wish you all - we're two of the owners of c stars and want to have this placates we want to see bring live entertainment to the dog patch we've reached out to all of the neighbors associations d b era a and dog patch association and a lot of the regular clientele nothing too big 12 hundred square feet of says that a small band three to four people dj plugging into will sound system

and done our dlunsz to have a good relationship with the neighborhoods and put in a sound system and have 10 speakers that hang 24 inches from the ceiling and no 16 to 17 year-old building and ample system and better connected all connected as well and from the permit goes through we'll buy what a that were going to buy. >> a mixer. >> a mixer (laughter) we're going to have spending money on a mixer. >> can you tell me you have 10 speakers. >> they hang 24 inches. >> what kind of speakers. >> expensive. >> what about a brand name.

>> i cannot tell you what the speakers are i've changed them out. >> do you know how powerful your ample is. >> i know the make and model i believe i don't know how powerful. >> one thousand watts. >> one thousand watts. >> okay their next door to each other and linked to each so their operateed through the one circuit system the age goes up with the circuit goes up we have 5 speakers in the front room and in the back more. >> the impact volume control on it. >> no it is linked to excuse me - the stub didn't have a volume control the stud didn't go much higher. >> you have why'd how big our sub is.

>> we can promise if approved in karaoke and (laughter) an automatic so we'll not see you for that (laughter) that's too bad. >> we have karaoke fans on this commission. >> maybe we'll call it during open mike. >> there we go. >> other questions or thoughts from commissioners i actually love the dog patch and thought what is there to do around here besides going to a bar and you guys want to bring the attempt will draw and be an informational point for a lot of people thanks for doing that if no more questions public comment and do a motion thank you. >> thank you. >> public comment come on up and speak into the microphone go

ahead and say our name. >> i'm angela born and raised and wanted to stand in solidarity for this is the you know ever changing landscape in san francisco and important to have the music so i wanted to express that thank you. >> great, thank you. >> a point of the information angela you would be a great singer. >> good evening commissioners i'm not a great singer. >> (laughter). i know less of the wolfers but is a patron of the c star and a a long time resident up want to speak on behalf of the owners and their professionalism and sense of the neighbors i've been going to their extremely conscious and to they've been thoughtful and conscious about

any of the work and i wanted to through that into the conversation >> great, thank you. >> my name is raymond hernandez i've been in the dog patch and before c star it was the goat i'm happy to hear live performance in the dog patch they need that and looking forward to that everybody loves the c once alicia told me we're looking forward to being there another one hundred years. >> great, thank you. >> hi i also agree with bryan i frequent the dog patch a lot and it is good to see that live

entertainment coming especially with the warriors stadium opening up and gives people something to do before and after the game. >> great thanks. >> any other public comment all right. i'm going to close public comment commissioners someone want to make a motion. >> i'll make the motion. >> what's your motion (laughter). >> i motion to approve this permit. >> with all that goes with that including the good neighbor policy that is sensitive in the past but changing rapidly and good to reach out to the neighbors. >> all right there is a motion that has been seconded to approve with the good neighbor policy okay same house, same call? >> all right. that means that passes so congratulations.

>> (clapping.) >> we've move on to the final one of the night. >> so our last permit for this evening is for may beckon lombard street this is a restaurant they're planning on having live jazz performances during diner but have this on friday and saturday night evening but want to poeshlt to expand they've spoken with neighbors and dropped out of off a copy of signatures he got to the neighbors adjacent places we didn't receive any letters of opposition northern station approved this with the good neighbor policy and here to tell you more is the owner. >> thank you we're simply going to have a jazz one or two nights a week and can't be intrusive and not going to have

noise only a sacking phone and base stuck in the corner not interrupting anyone's diner we're from the best of my recollection we have this ambient live music it sounds like better than other music. >> you have an bright base an upright base. >> colonel. >> no amplifiers. >> they have a tiny thing for a guitar. >> sounds like okay any questions. >> yeah. >> no karaoke. >> no. >> darn. >> all right. have a seat. didn't look like any public to make comments any public comment? public comment is closed. and commissioners who would like to make a motion

>> i make a motion to approve the permit. >> great is there a second. >> there is a motion that has been seconded. >> okay same house, same call? >> all right. the that item passes and congratulations and good luck looking forward to no karaoke there. >> okay let's see - we're at the tail end of our meeting item 8 commissioners questions or comments commissioner joseph. >> so on the 20th is our holiday party but kind of my last actual official today this is my last meeting i hope you all come and tell people to come and have 6 hundred people come to the armory club we'll have a contingency to move across the

city street and this is so biter sweet time for me to go for sure i'll miss you especially jocelyn especially you it's been amazing and you crystal and all of you would you cry and all we've accomplished over the years it's a been over the top all the legislation, urban design group when we started there were people that called entertainment a attractive nuisance they don't call that anymore we've empowered our industry and had people act like good players not having the stuff we used to have i'll miss you all so much but i don't know how long i have to stay away but when this is over

i'll be in that for sure and thank you all i'm done. >> (clapping.) >> i. >> audrey we've common everyone. >> you can't say how many years that's okay. >> being up here with i've learned a lot and so i thought i'd leave first before you leave so i don't know what to do because - >> (laughter). so i have to do it all by myself >> thank you going to miss you. >> commissioner frost. >> i do want to say that's been a pleasure knowing you when i hear about the people talking

about their speakers i look to you, you're the expert and the experiences you brought to the board you made that okay for me to come on here you'll be a avoid to philly appreciate the help when i first came on so thank you. >> i want to say thank you for - i've only about been on here a few months thank you for the warm welcome when i came on and your words of advise dealing with the commission and the agenda thank you for all of that i'll miss you in the larger entertainment commission family even though you're not here. >> thank you 5udy been an honor to serve you're a beautiful like

i said and i look forward to hearing what i share from our everyday life to all of your paved experiences we've been lucky to serve with you and taken night life to great heights in san francisco. >> my time thank you audrey you know, i joined 8 years ago it was a hard time making sure we navigate through it period of time and we admire you and thank you you've been an icon in the entertainment industry for so long and look up to you happy trails we love you. >> i guess i have to say something (laughter) i mean, i don't that i would be here in a roll on the commission

if audrey not for you thank you for helping me fly and all of us fly you've heard everyone say something about that i hope we do you just because we let you steal the show every week you can and do that well and all i think about what would audrey do i'll think about that i'll text you if i cannot figure out and but so many san franciscans don't know who you are but need to know who you are you've made an impact on everything that they touch and all the ways they have fun and all the things they know and love about san francisco you are incredible in knowing we'll miss you big time. >> but we still have a party

on the 20th and we're still around not like disappointing 100 percent from your lives but this commission is going to be the missing you a lot so but we'll party and celebrate and talk more stories on the 20th. >> anyone else, anyone else commissioner frost. >> if we're down with that. >> i would like i don't know if a motion or what we adjourn tonight meeting in honor and memory of the people that died in the ghost ship fire i've talked with a couple of people before when things like that as well as other commissioner you want to guide without being out

in the forefront and you know with the tragedy like that, of course, the nuns and the politicians come out and that's all crazy but i went to work together two kids that work where i work i shouldn't call them kids young adults and part that have that family and one is conformed found and the other one is missing that is mostly about nothing else we want to talk you know about what in commission does we don't want to be out in the forefront kudos to the fire department and the the police department they watch our entertainment industry city to make sure the patrons is safe when they go into the environments there are times we go in and be the heavy i went in 91 all in the envelopes there

was an underground party and stacks of hay and open flames and why is not anything being done you, we know why it is best we're not out in the forefront and the job you guys done keeping our entertainment in the city safe i appreciate that. >> can i follow-up with that. >> yeah. >> you're absolutely right. i think we should be - we're all educators and heard situations and i think we have a lot of acknowledge and to reach out to the artists or even promoters to ask us questions what we do our resources to help them i think that is a good role and

traefrment e entertainment commission it only takes with only small incident to make that big that's what happens he wanted to follow up i have another one i know that is another tragedy this quarter but really quick one of our long time promoters sebastian i never see audrey cry but sebastian let me start from the beginning sebastian was a prompter that hung out at 16 the funny thing his grandmother lived next door to my home and we've seen in custody with a bunch of people i found out he was promoting with martel and he learned from them

and he brought fashion night life and clubbing with fashion and he himself was a model he was the clothing model and skateboard up and down the street and i was throwing parties we never crossed path until finally he run into him this guy worked so hard and had pies act together and one of the rear promoters that throw 5 event a week and had the longtime running party dlunls the thing if stop until the star light stopped i want to go out and to the family and to all the

promoters when it happened it blew up so sebastian really we all thought had his act together didn't know anybody he did well in his business but kept a lot of things inside of him and i saw him he invited me with a function three weeks before he looked pefrl normal and looking forward to new year's and everyone else i guess a lot of stress in the family the mother in a care home what i'm trying to say when people are around christmas talk to our families see what is up with them and maybe something there is inside they want to share sebastian didn't want to tell anybody basically a suicide so if you're out there especially during the

holiday use that suicide line which i have 80027385 - it hurts us more when you're not here and in the industry without sebastian this is audrey like not sitting up here with us a game-changer that's all i want to say not only for the oakland families but end this meeting with the dedicated to sebastian as well. >> i just want to add i think sebastian was 19 and he came to me and said i would want to do a show at the my including club at 21st we do and he state in touch he was a supporter and both jose

listen and i went the whole community got together and true talk to our friends and let them know they can talk to you when people go home happen and 3 hours later they're dead it is very, very sad testament but, yeah our industry lost a really. (phone ringing.) young man >> thank you for those dedications any public comment? or public comment on the public comment. wondering when you were going to come up. >> save the best for last my name is stephano thank you to audr

audrey brothers and sisters loss was san francisco game they came with expertise and brought the edge to the commission it needs she was tough when they needed to be tough and really helped you've seen this commission view the lows and highs but audrey's leadership led this commission in a high and you all are better commissioners because of her so thank you. >> (laughter). >> all right. one more thing item number 9 future reports for agenda any thoughts >> that is related to the previous comments about the oakland fire i know i've been

getting questions about sort of what the situations is in san francisco what can we do here and it is clear this is a a regional problem we've been trying to hold onto the venues as they close and gentrification and the economic pressures people and art spaces move to oakland it is a regional problem that comes out of san francisco so how can the entertainment commission have a role in playing to be part of the solution to making sure that folks we're moaning the variety of diverse spaces here and how as jocelyn spoke in the director's report how to assist our colleagues in oakland and other parts of bay area and what can we do to make sure that people attending entertainment commission in underground or

otherwise venues obviously the permitting process how can we reduce the harm and insure that people are safe as possible while their attending entertainment venues just figure out figured out another way to have or be in a broader community wide conversation about the diversity safety and entertainment venues and support them. >> to that i'd like to say this commission has set the bar nationally and in some cases internationally for entertainment regulation and the daily commission in general our director has gone far and wide and never turns anybody down and offered to help other cities and oakland spoke to us a number of

years back i think following our model and having cities not people that want to regulate you out of business but support you on the commission and you have a better and fun place because safe is where to go i think they should contact jocelyn (laughter) i think that what we can do is encourage other cities to follow our model and ask for help and bias from san francisco we've been loaded in a lot of places as setting the bar. >> i think you're right a region issue because open as long as i've known a healthy open underground scene some is

happening around transportation and night life and thinking about hey we are not one city but the things happen with the dynamic about jurisdiction and reaching it out to the artist and people will want to be here but can't i don't know if - i know there is not a particular motion you've putting on but this future agenda item we can talk about offline and talk about how to convene is working body outside of this commission or reaching out in some way doing it obviously thoughtfully with the time so not jumping in right now but you know a month or two from now. >> i know this is not part of agenda but part of the - another tragedies to have a

de3wr50e6 to go over what people learned in oakland does that whatever organization they do a deep bracket you guys know about that i want to be informed and listen to learn those are the hard environmental impact report things the inspector has to put your ego to learn what went right but what respect wrong that helps us to do our job. >> we have to be incredibly carefully this situation does not in variance department whether building or fire or whatever they don't go off the deep end searching for stuff and impacting how our industry operates for the most part 98 percent of

our operators and maybe 99 percent of greatest operator do all the right things i don't want people businesses to be impacted people are afraid going out and doing that i don't know that that people realize when you shut down a place during the day there are small margins in this industry and you negatively effect their income in a way they lay people off years ago we found out that the entertainment industry appraise for people per square feet than retail or any other business and to keep people working and keep the entertainment going and music and art and everything about it is really, really important so you know not to be beating

the drum let's get everybody for the most part we have operators. >> yeah. their point just closing venues down didn't remove people's desire to entertain so just closing down venues is not a solution maybe not - making sure that venues is available and assessable and able to be used and affordable and all of that so i know you know that i'm saying that out loud. >> a good education to the owners of the building be what they should be looking for you know bathrooms and exits this is normal but some people p are turn down into the arts as a promoter like 6 hundred people

might show up or three hundred people might show up it is an interesting thing but it comes down to safety some education we can give them a seminar or something where their licensed permitting or not or maybe open a businesslike a club something that we can put on the agenda i think in general for the general public comment that if you go into a space you're not familiar make sure you know where the exits are and if it is good many people in one room just leave don't hang around for now what we can advise for people that show up so - >> i think that is an excellent idea i don't know about here in the city but in outlying areas in the bay area

this will not stop there will be underground places and warehouses that you have someone that is responsible person putting on the undergrounds to make research on the integrity to say okay. this is what you need to make that safe well lit exit as i understand and something like that or keeping people safe without justifying or approving and i think that is the most important thing this thing happened no oakland i don't know from the owner would have done it or procure but assess to the online but keep our unpermitted place safe i think that is huge like stephen said my stepdaughter laughed at me i tell her with the exit is and all the stuff i got i think

grenade in me when i saw a tragedy that i saw. >> so patrons set the tone clubs a change what we do by what is trend in patrons demand better exiting it will come and so i posted on facebook the other day about patrons look out you know where the exits are demand that kind of stuff be smart and i think just like clubs change or core changes their dj based on what is trending and what patrons want if the patrons want this and the cry comes out from the patrons that will change the underground will change i think that is just in my opinion but - >> all right. this is a nice start to a longer complex

conversation about the underground and region economy and how to be safe i think i can work with the director to figure out what the right next steps are as much commissioner thomas for making sure we do that a close the meeting any public comment on that particular item all right. i adjourn this meeting at the 6:59 p.m. thank