aren't enough to get into college. there are actual steps you need to take. finding someone who can help is the first and most important. for the next steps, go to knowhow2go.org. >> regular hearing for thursday, january 12, 2017, any kind. proceedings. and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. i'd like to call roll at this time. sdmifks commissioner vice president richards commissioner hillis commissioner koppel and commissioner moore. >> we do expect commissioners commissioner johnson and commissioner melgar to arrive and commissioner president fong to be a little bit xhirgz with the time of issuance and to this moment, no items proposed for

continuance so we can monarch to our all matters listed hereunder constitute a consent calendar, are considered to be routine and may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. item one case at 201 second street conditional use authorization and item 22141 cellist street conditional use authorization onion market street conditional use authorization i have i have no speaker cards. >> is there any public comment? open the items on the

matters listed hereunder constitute a consent calendar, are considered to be routine consent calendar seeing none, secretary if we account separate one and 12 from the superior court 3 i have a conflict on the property. >> very good do i hear a motion. >> no, i pushed the button. >> exposure. >> move to approve items one and two. >> on that to approve the items commissioner hillis commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore and commissioner vice president richards so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero and we will need a motion to recuse commissioner vice president richards from the superior court it

>> thank you, commissioners on that motion to recrews schematics from item 3. >> commissioner hillis commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore and commissioner vice president richards so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero. >> places you on item well. >> still a motion to approve. >> commissioner vice president richards you're not part of this portion of the hearing commissioner melgar i make a motion we approve the item. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners on that motion to approve item 3. >> commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar and commissioner moore. >> so moved, commissioners,

that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero. >> thank you that will place us under commissioner matter questions or comments. >> very good all right. >> commissioners that places us in department matters director's announcements and case no. 2008 for mission street informational presentation. >> commissioners no new announcements this week i'll defer to marseille. >> department staff before you is an it possible item for a project on 706 mission i'll provide an approval and requirements and christian and

(calling names) the artist will provide an overview of the - the market street was approved by the city and commission in 2013 for the arson building at the 43 tower adjacent to that building to include a nine hundred unit and retail formula and others property to the mexican museum the valuable equal to one percent of the hard construction costs for the project the sponsor is working with the mexican museum will be occupying several floors the museum has commissions the artists to develop this proposal jefferson the public art is an art wall to be installed at the screen like element separate from the walls and visual from

market street jesse square at the north side leaving the section for visibility. >> the project conditions of the approval require the locations be submitted for the planning director in communication with the commission that concludes my presentation. i'm going to turn it over to project team for more details and i'll be here for questions thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is christian park ranger on the mission street prestige as mentioned that is the historic rehabilitation the arson building and the tower in the adjacent parcel the two buildings will be corrected with the museum entries and retail at the first floor the mexican museum from the three and four

underscore we started did construction in mid-2016 and well underway with the rehabilitation and started the project the mexican museum has mr. apprenticeship restriction from mexico city that will enhance the overall project and the artist installation will be wrapping the tower building of the mexican museum we're working closely with the team to accommodate and be able to integrate that existing piece we're honored to have ours guests here with that, i'd like to ask him to come up and continue with the presentation thank you. >> thank you for having me. here and i'll probably start

ramping halfway or start from the beginning correct me if i'm overtime i know your busy - this is going to be maybe focused. >> i'll just want to go through the presentation that i think you all have printed and you have seen before; right? >> so that is a quick one we'll just first of all, a bit of a curriculum things have been done we're working in the field of the working with, architects and buildings negative impact different mexican worlds over the last 15 to 20 years i'll go through this is this is information of what i've done and where i've done that when i

see a list it tires mitch pleats through god bless a few this is mexico city - part of the university that was claims to be i think is the finest university in the arab world that is a fully or a piece for a square in pablo mexico the museum in mexico is a march to the children who died in the holocaust and genocide in the century i--i don't know if it is a lamp or skwurp for a culture center in mexico that was

partially from massive old factory that used to process tobacco. >> this is for a school just inaugurated with the same architecture that was working on the budget of the mexican museum a design school in mexico and the staircase is black and white model. >> an open air theatre on a mexican this is a big city in the north of mexico that looks like a place for people to not a little bit a lot of people to unite and reunite and get together with fun and book fairs and all that sorts of activities so a lot of the work with is in the cultural atmosphere i'm happy to say i got invited

probation officer work in that fantastic project and we developed over the last two years developed an idea that would be the facade this is a small model which say you have to imagine the tower going up 13 or 14 floors on mission street and right on the corner with the mexican museum there are 3 floors will will be the mexican museum and thinking about what to do and researching and making all sorts of plans and working along with a lot of ideas i came up with the idea to abstract this whole facade not to make a

figurative representation of that mexican what is mexican-american what is the relationship i thought we should talk about and work with migration in this case the first approach of a clear idea working with typography with mexico and san francisco and it is a double layer the other layer is the maps to traveling over water that connects but then he went on with the research and came up with the idea of water migrates and air migrates and animals all sorts of animals the research we can

gone and get different ideas and different topographical maps to paul is the engineer shouldn't do that we're developing the whole engineer of this project you get all sorts of topographical maps we'll continue wind and water, and some of them the more we research the more faifks they become this project is in the phase of how to break down the facade and make that reflect active and lots of conditions what california be done and what can't be done in the practical matter and the engineering matter so these are all models for the skin of the building and we're getting closer and

closer i think that it is we're getting to a point we have to fine-tune what we know and then create a field that is composed of those migrations because it is in essence of what connects us here and there and me myself i was born in holland i'm a may not and live in mexico for 40 years i think we're all a part of that a mexican museum is such a skin migrate i think surprised people sometimes, i look at the piece and say it has an oriental feel like a stone cove fin lots

of different sensations and one of them might be mexican but important to create a space that invites everybody and that's - the skin should help everybody to get curious about that and want to enter. >> as you can see this model has a black finish the models on the place have a black finish that basically didn't mean anything we're working on a scale model here right here that might x apply the scale of the drawing we're still - what sort of finish we have to still work on that there is a technical situation the orange is the cut

out metal skin the blue is glass which encalifornia's the building - here renders to give you an idea of the transparency of that skin. >> as those are made in plexiglas and film they look like glass. >> thank you your time is up. >> i thought see i'm ramping. >> we may have questions. >> i have no speaker cards. >> open up for public comment to general public comment on that item any general public

comment seeing none, commissioners commissioner moore. >> i'll be happy to say something i think i appreciate the dialogue this is a difficult building the building is a point of many cultural and civic buildings on the corner old fire is new the discussion on the arson building was a difficult one because many people in the generation communities have lots of questions in the end this piece of art needs to be deep enough to listen and saying we're doing the right thing as you're saying not the final one i'm encouraged but the deputy of the questions and the artists approach how you're moving forward and happy have

seen our presentation. >> i'm interested in having you continue on the challenges. >> on the what. >> when you were interrupted by the bell. >> oh, i was interrupted oh, yes well basically, we're getting now to a phase we have to join engineering the budget obviously and that's the one that is pushing us towards all sorts of decisions that have to be practical on the created - imaginary i still want to explore such as and push it as far to develop ideas on those migrations the whole idea of migrations to keep it flowing through any head it is important nowadays more so i think it is something i

gladly and happily incur i'll try to make as much changes as - the people who surrounded me let me which means at a certain moment stop our time is up. >> (laughter). >> and i'm very happy the way it is going you mentioned the building the historical building that is an issue as well that maybe can be addressed through the finishes of the materials and it it will have to be considered very, very important for the functioning for even maintenance even very simple things to have a good and long life and all that of more importantly these are about works as a - magnet for the

passer but it is a great project it is - i won't say i'll do it for free they won't pay me anything i'm passionate because i'm an immigrant. >> thank you director rahaim. >> one of the factors we looked at public artists one percent for our products the acceptability and in this case is this is the art most visible in the yerba buena not only on

mission but the square an interesting fact within an artists district this is the most prominent the factors i want to reinvite and recommend with your comments. >> wonderful disclosure. >> the additional question i want to ask the director or commission we have a tendency of being static of yerba buena on the north side static windy and the open space whatever that will be i hope will bring all the pieces together you flow to the space rather than arriving as another piece of art at the front door a fluid from one museum without having to think too much about where your arriving and i'm sure you all

are talking about it will be interesting to see that dialogue coming as we move forward. >> commissioner hillis thank you for your presentation a wonderful piece and a lot of time those are take on to the project as a way you're thinking about that and it is like the facade of the museum is your piece that works well, just a question on what's the thought how is that viewed from inside the space i'm not sure how a museum works are those blank walls or windows are you looking at that. >> how it will be perceived from inside the space. >> the issue is there is a close-up view the inside and there's a far away view the streets, etc. at the jesse square and yerba buena park etc.

we've been thinking about that and have been working with - there are two facades one the cut out metal and the glass facade that is wraps the building and gives that the temperature inside and outside we'll definitely do a thin curtain that will block off a little bit the harshness of the stood that puts us inside - if i remember on mist going to be a sculpture gathering on that level so that's like a longish space that is not going to be a big problem if you do temporary shows you'll have to have curtains to cut off the shadows

on the other side you might get a benefit from the shadows on the inside if someone is inside way more an abstract very abstract sensation than the other side >> okay. thank you. >> thank you very much one quick comment i'm fascinated how artists can take migration and translate it into something that's well done thank you. >> thank you. >> best of luck. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to item 6 review of past from the board of appeals and nun structured for today. >> good afternoon, commissioners aaron starr, manager, legislative affairs. the committee considered the

urban design guidelines that adds language to the implementation of vision zero commissioners you heard this on october last year and recommended approval at the hearing supervisor peskin expressed the concerns the neighborhood were for the posted and prior to coming to the board chinatown and fisherman's wharf and union square and district 3 particularly in the needs for developing the streetscape during the public comment one speaker that represented the community group of chinatown trip he wanted language added to the amendment to insure the community engagement supervisor peskin said he supported the property change in the ordinance and concerns were not significant enough to vote against the amendment, however, expressed the follow-up and add language about community engagement to the vision zero policy the committee voted to

remedy the item to the full board next was supervisor farrell ordinance that requires conditional use authorization for medical services in the sacramento free commercial district commissioners you heard this on november 17th at the land use only clarifying questions the committee voted to recommend to the full board also the general code for the two san francisco port commission commissioners you heard this in november of last year and recommended approval at the hearing significant public comment and support for those who live in the project and other members of the community after expressing support for the project and public process the committee voted to remedy the items to the full board and lastly were interim controls sponsored by the mayor that

sponsored conditional use authorization for the california voter that legalized the medical cannabis dispensary to - so that the new industry doesn't negatively impact the manufacturing sector the sdrmdz will be in effect for 6 months and then permanent controls for the non-rail side of the cannabis the interim controls also allowed the fats to expand and allow fats that have submitted the permits to proceed without permission and the authorization the city is in the process of drafting the controls on the rail side those controls will be introduced by september of this year significant public comment from the representative from the cannabis groelg industry about the interim

controls and asking for more - with the grandfathering provisions and the 6 month - at the special use district and the mayors ordinance on the inclusionary housing program for the small site program program passed their second reading the building designated for the district sponsored by supervisor peskin passed it's first reading and the determination for the project on fulsome street continued to march 31st and the conditional use authorization appeal for the same project was removed or withdrawn by the appellant and finally the board considered the vision zero during the hearing supervisor peskin reiterated his concerns of the

neighborhood groups and wanted trailing legislation for the engagement and development of public realm and supervisor yee expressed concerns about the current methodologies about the high injury corridors and supervisor tang has concerns about the policy in the element that says the city will maintain the presumption against the signals that's where the pedestrian pushes the button to go across the street. >> and supervisor kim indicated shields to amend the planning code that is for pedestrian improvements along with the scombrp amendment the board is required to act on the amendments one 90 days failing to do so will deem the amendments approved and the board is not permitted to make amendments in the concerns the

supervisors voted 10 to one to approve the amendment with only supervisor cowen in support and the last thing on the agenda for the board of supervisors and no introductions that concludes my report. >> just one question or item to note the new land use committee what appointed by supervisor breed and supervisor farrell the chair supervisor peskin is the vice chair and supervisor tang is a member. >> that's correct. >> commissioners on behalf of the zoning administrator assistance the board of appeals met and considered two items 2328 plus north street was heard and granted a jurisdiction request for this project was considered dr in august of 2015 the project was granted but the issuance was not permit by the

department of building inspection and the issued permit didn't accurately reflect the condition the memo omitted one of the conditions for the roof terrace and it was corrected and the sponsor will comply that the conditions requirement and 333 fremont street the board heard the letter of determination this property be allowed a number of parking spaces for the residential building the commission approved the project in 2005 with a maximum of one parking space for each dwelling unit for the applicable controls the appellant said this limited the number of parking spaces but not the number of cars that can park in the building and their proposal to add valet parking will not require cu which is required by the county interim controls the board unanimously upheld the letter of determination and the

appellant will have to seek a cu if they add more parking facilities. >> if no questions move on to general public comment comment not to exceed 15 minutes. at this time, members of the public may address the commission to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission up to three minutes. i have no speaker cards. >> is there any general public comment? any general public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. general public comment is closed. >> places us under our regular calendar for 2016, 24th street 101 conditional use

authorization. >> good afternoon, commissioners veronica flores the item before you is a request for a conditional use authorization to allow a new medical service use doing business as go health urgent care on 24th street between vickburg and church street the property is located within a 24th street innovating commercial zoning district and a 40 height and bulk go heartache urgent care has been in operation with 47 clinics throughout the country the urgent medical care for

preventive medicine and treatment laboratory services and displays additionally go health actively partners with the community to provide educational programs like cpr clinics the hours of operation are 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. monday through friday and 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. saturday and sunday the the subject property building is for the four story mixed use this that succeeded construction in 2016 a rear yard modification in 2013 in order to build beyond the raiding setback no expansion as part of proposal the project site is currently just the building shell and a big tenant space 2000 in size go health will be the first tenant

in this frequency constructed building to date the department was one communicates from the noah valley merchant and professional association the project sponsor was reaching out to the neighbors and conducting door to door meeting the department recommend approval with conditions and building the project is desirable for the following reasons the proposed project will increase access to prooik and as well citywide the project provides for an opportunity for city resident the proposal is a recent conduct the - on balance the project

meets all applicable items of the planning code that concludes my presentation. and i'm available for any questions afterward. >> project sponsor you have to 10 minute presentation if you like to make one. >> hello commissioners. >> hello commissioners my name is juan with the architecture with go hill we have nothing to present everything we've done or seen in the neighborhood active i'm from noah valley a resident over 20 years have been positively i

have the go health clinic for any medical use and i have to tell you this facility bar none excellent because the follow-up the care they have here is very professional i believe the product that's why not only i go physically to the facility but i'm the architect to the facility. >> any questions that you may have for go health or myself and maybe after public comment. opening up for public comment on this item. >> any public comment? >> hi, my name is brian the property owner i want to let you can this space has been vacant

for a year and a half and in january 2016 i had received a few proposals to rent the space two from urgent care and one from a national company i saw go health and throughout the use is more desirable than a reality company for the neighborhood as was mentioned by ms. flores the project got approval from the noah valley merchant group and also received support from the neighbors especially given that the location is quite a way from kaiser permanente and c pmc and i'm here to ask you to approve that conditional use. >> any other speakers on this

item from the public seeing none, commissioner moore. >> i have a question the question for me is that in neighborhoods corridor corridors we see new buildings coupling coming in and encourage them to be mixed use and increasing for small-scale retail the retail character of the neighborhood and a comment in the staffs report i want more clarification the comment is under the bullet points of - on page 1, 2, 3, 4 where it says being that the the subject property property is a null constructed building in a neighborhood commercial area the needs will be high making that

difficult for mom and pop used to steady at the project site therefore go health is an ideal tenant i'm concerned about that as the comment because the medical use requires a cu in a commercial corridor and this is somewhat in contraction to the premise how we like new resident ground floor buildings to be appointed in these areas we took on the rent c r and that was not supportive of the overall prevailing character and noticed it is the area of the hospital and the presence of medical office and all surrounding building has a somewhat deaf eagle effect i'm concerned this

comment is not public health in the right direction that maybe a use of words but i'm concerned about that. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you i'm supportive of this use here although i'll say i agree with commissioner moore on the comment in the staff report i when i read that i thought at the end of the day what counts is the vote amotion and text itself to me there is a couple of things here one i didn't compare it as the lengther project for the health care needs that was not typical of the retail care of the van ness street as well as the size of the project itself took uppermost of block and not a lot of break up in use and activity

so there were a lot of competing facts one thing i'll say here where we have an opportunity to have a vacancy filled that makes it a stronger argument for the argument of ground floor where i'll be looking ground floor the more vacancies that is harder to make the argument for new spices spaces for that reason i support the project but you know, i would caution staff against making comments that commissioner moore pointed out because it is not always a given the leases will be high and therefore those are slightly leading to things we can see we have to support strong commercial districts that you have retail and other uses with

a higher velocity of pedestrians assess and activity. >> my thoughts and comments on this kind of mixed i looked at the one last night all over the place walked around the block face that the proposed project is on didn't have a lot of retail presence and i - i know we approved we approved the building next door to the west the little cottage we approved to demolish and he saw what was here proposed here with what was around the corner from a former radio shack where people buy parts and things and electronics they're saying i don't know exactly what brand but that type

of business as radio shack has an effect between cafe flores and the cbs you hardly see anyone in under i think that is a use that is necessary in the neighborhood i'm not sure i'm convinced the use is important for the commercial district i want to hear with the other you commissioners think i saw in the paper it taunted this health care and retail is there a retail component can you come up one we had on van ness had a retail component inside as well as we added a retail on the outside to try to make it flow better with the commercial make it better activation is there any retail component. >> not a retail component at that particular location the

retail preference is based on the design with the new health care is delivered to traditionally a hospital based on predominantly and taking that into an external view and two years ago this was the focus of the design be taking in the implication within health care we didn't see delivering a retailed feel and within a community still having the access to health care not a failed component specifically. >> sure in our 09 projects around the 47 the u.s. are they all on major commercial strips so this kind of retail. >> that's correct. >> none of them are a block or two away they're on the commercial strips. >> that's correct so a common project target for us for our business model will be a mixed

use grocery anchored center where people live their lives. >> thank you director rahaim. >> my understanding is that you offer classes in the space; is that correct. >> that's correct we are going out to the schools and doing on outreach with monroe elementary our goal to make that into an individual center for the community. >> commissioners for commissioner moore comments your comment is well-taken the idea of that comment in the case is simply rents are higher in the facility so granted and that's not a given the other reasons we recommended approval that is a modest storefront in the mid block when the groceries take up - it is a standard storefront

not a significant impact on the street as otherwise if this was a larger facility on the corner. >> thank you commissioner moore. >> i appreciate the directors comment what is at root of my comment the speculative or more and more into play these days that's what we're trying to avoid so. >> the one question that is based on i see empty storefronts in upper market empty storefront in construction and the developers and i talked about why is this the commercial space was not included to kind of this is gravy on the marched potatoes and some storefronts sit vacant for 15 years literally 16th

street under construction i kind of have trouble with it was or wasn't included in the performa in terms of all construction roasted off the banks formula retail and health care mr. kendall the developer. >> it is important to note that the development that i did was at the end the retail strip in noah valley the space is also large at the 2000 square feet and so i was marking it to traditional retailers one of the main things that retailers didn't like because i had to do a certain size entrance on the right and an emergency exit on the left the storefront is only 13 feet wide and the space not

deep the requirement to have ground floor retail the space has the 13 wide space and the windows that's why i have - it is important to note i have of family members this is my first development we'll all be living off the income not gravy that is what my family will be living on. >> you could have put parking there so really the space could be dead the garage door. >> absolutely i actually lost quite a bit of money on the facade it took me 6 months to sell they didn't dr. parking spaces and i bought the lot i wanted the retail space for myself so - >> thank you very much. >> sure

commissioner johnson. >> not to belabor the point and my comments i think that is that a helpful from a broader view or policy perspective that we marry this with the conversation about a much larger project that is on grant street when we were talking and having a report about the retail sector and changing that landscape and los g don't just impact the major retail areas in the city like declared it also impacts our nc t where i'm going with that, i think as the commission that would be helpful to have a lens that also prioritize the pedestrian assess the reason we

want retail we want people to live and work in the neighborhood but see people on the street coming and going and more ways to produce that than just a traditional retail so we can keep in mind not that i'm disagreeing not being a great idea to have office and health care and all of that but we need to broaden our minds he and ask do you have classes and things that bring pedestrians into the facilities and look at first page that lens rather than what is the actual product and services their offering we'll see more of this in the future as we keep on going retailers are selling physical products a need for lots and having deep shops will not be for a lot of smaller retailers not going to

be the kind of space they can utilities. >> a couple of additional thoughts a great example of a larger retail in upper market district and market street where the bankers first of all, the - the relationship in that parcel that worked this parcel 16 feet i can only imagine how montgomery anything can work it is too narrow i find on this one the hours of operation are reasonable from 8 and on wednesday until 5 noah valley kind of gets dark i think shuts down early so they'll activate the space a good part of day. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, there is a

motion that has been seconded to approve that matter with conditions on that motion commissioner hillis commissioner johnson. >> commissioner koppel commissioner melgar and commissioner moore and commissioner vice president richards so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero. >> commissioners that places. >> we'll take a 5 minute break. >> proceedings. and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. commissioners, we left off under our discretionary review calendar on item 8 dr p - 928 mission street a discretionary review. >> huh?

>> good afternoon commissioner vice president richards and commissioners deanna a department staff the item before you recommended to two requests for discretionary review for a building permit proposing a change of use from a roll call to an institutional use for nonprofit at 928 mission street this will occupy the four story mixed use condominium building and provide onsite kitchen services and other services the project includes the improvements the subject property is located on the west side of mission street between 1 and 16th street within the transit zoning district the proposed institutional use is principally permit per the planning code 736

point ti and satisfies the requirement for the active use the first dr is the homeowners association that are homeowners located on the the subject property on floors two to four and includes the residential condominium on the the subject property site the second dr requester the mission street to a homeowner adjacent by 924 mission street and their property is going for a change of use from a body shop to a commercial building collectively the drs concerns the ground floor commercial use and lines of people that will be waiting outside of the project site the violation of the good neighbor policy of the mixed use and south of market mixed use district, the introduction of

hundreds of homeless people in the immediate place, the use is the purpose to serve a negative clientele the use will be detrimental to future development and da's disregard the characterization the lack of a study to determine where the needs exists within the neighborhood the use should be located outside of the area because of the priorities and office of disabilities the violation of the residential design guidelines and the homeowners cc&rs to date the department has to phone calls and letters of support and a petition over 19 thousand signatures 2000 from local san franciscans and provided are the 80 additional letters of support in your inpatients 41 in local

businesses and had letters of opposition the department recommends the conditions not seek discretionary review and approve it, it is principally permitted and meets the goals and objectives an item by item in short this is taking up the social services to be a tiny mission in the general plan the mission plan and the security taking over the soup kitchen into the tenderloin where they have been displaced and a secured a location at the site through the charitable purchase the condominium forever the soup kitchen has hours and managing in and out the facility in order to be a good neighbor that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions and i'd like to introduce supervisor ronen who

would like to speak. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm excited to be here on any fourth day on the job on this incredible project at a time we're seeing so many families struggling in the mission i'm deeply deeply grateful for the people here today and to tony robin for stepping up for the families and community members the sisters have a proven track record of serving communities with compassionate in neighborhoods in the tenderloin and bayview and is civic center i couldn't be more excited they're bringing their general residential hotel in a time the services are greatly needed the mission district in my humble opinion is one of the special neighborhood

because of diversity of our neighborhood and the fact that people of all income level are welcome in the mission that makes that the place we all love and as the mission continues to develop i'll venture to say the majority are looking to preserve this special character of the neighborhood i couldn't disagree more with the homeowners association in in their i quote allowing a permanent site for homeless to line up for lunch and dinner will deter future condominiums in the neighborhood and defer destroys like the italian restaurant that is slated for 1910 mission street i find it iconic and disturbing that they have no concerns for a food establishment attempting to on up in a neighborhood while

simultaneously opposing a service for people for food for people in need you couldn't disagree with the project sponsor i quote will be serving retail used by an install use to serve a clientele that will bring crime and substance abuse on church street where that is located allowing the proposed use will cast a dark shampooed of the bright future of the mission district i would caution this developer seeking to build anything in the mission district is not good as a new supervisor of district 9 let me be crystal clear i know

that neighbors are pulled from by the homelessness crisis and mix emission has born the brunt of that i'm as frustrated as a the neighbors but homeless are forced to live in combchlts i work tirelessly tirelessly to build more navigation centers so we can solve the crisis in a humane way and a permanent way and as i work with mission residents and homeless to advocate for the resources we have to solve the problem the sisters work is essential to help to solve the process they're helping to prevent

families at the margin to fall into crisis we need this as we face the crisis i'm 100 percent of the sisters in the mission and ask you to deny the discretionary review thank you very much. >> welcome to the planning commission. >> (clapping.) >> through the chairs discretion the drersz will receive a 5 minute and supporters will receive 5 and the sponsor 10 minutes and supporters tpublic testimony an a two minute rebuttal for the dr requesters. >> for the requester for one. >> you have 5 minutes. >> dr requester?

>> persons who filed the discretionary review or their representative. >> good afternoon commissioners it is really an honor to be here glad to participate in this, you know, in a democratic use of our powers to you know show the right thing to do in case like this first of all, i want to say i'm a supporter of homelessness i volunteer at the soup kitchens myself like la jolla yell i peeled potatoes and am a supporter of religion community my brother is an ordained priest and from the homeless stand point when i was living in new

york city i - i was homeless and since then i've turned around my situation i've been a resident and owner in 2, 3, 4 building since 1999 it is really not the right place for this particular soup kitchen it belongs from the mission district but not below a 15 unit residential building i'm shaking like in the past year a horrendous situation in my neighborhood i routing step offer hyper derpg needles i'll then what did you do outside of high building and prop shorthand for prostitutes this is not the type of use weekly i go out in a protected suit and clean up the

bottles and needles like i mentioned human fees and i do this weekly it coming back comes right back this is not the best location tony robins thought that should be a mobile soup kitchen that's a wonderful idea it will be good as a mobile location in an industrial building not residents sitting in one of our roifrnts had a new born baby it is just a life safety issue we don't know that is the right use for this soup kitchen thanks very much. >> (clapping.) >> we'll caution no applause or outbursts dr requester number two. >> sir. >> you have 5 minutes.

>> thank you i had a presented speech i think i'll sort of abandon that and speak right here to you, you have our document in front of you what we submitted i'd like to say first that i'm a hubby release the homeless problem is a big one citywide all of us know that we see daily in what you look at it and projects probably complain all the time i'm an architect my name is jerry an architect and urban design eerie like you to look at this project not just from an emotional point of view but how do we meet the needs of everybody here in a reasonable and organized fashion i know that i'm here certainly to representing our 11 proposed condominium and right now, we're

having trouble findings one of our partners because of the soup kitchen maybe our 11 units will be off we'll see what happens he kind of look at what we say objecting to this is a lot worse since three years ago, the thing is urban design eerie say does that match the area plan for the mission i personally am looking through it i personally don't think that is you'll see this as my fellow designers from that stand point maybe not a good fit but the second is a thing not part of my profession i don't profess to be a social planner

how does 24 fit within the framework that is needed by the kitchen is dealing with the women that run the kitchen are hard working and real people with needs but it needs to be fit in an overall context they can support all of the people's needs bathroom and shower facilities and a place to live and food i think what we're doing is let the tail waging the dog in terms of location if we're going to say this area is the homeless center you you know whatever that will become we need to say that and set up a plan but to simply say this is the place i think that note not a good argument to say this will not change or bring people i've gotten photos their fine is that meeting the needs of the

community at large and the people trying to come in and meeting the housing needs or is it meeting the social needs we ask you to consider both of those and look at from an overall plan rather than i think a food kitchen is great do we want to to happen an mission street i think those are questions you need to answer with that, i ask for your hopefully helping them to find a better place thank you. >> (clapping.) >> please again excuse me - folks refrain from outbursts. >> opening up for public comment speakers in support of the dr requester. >> hi, my name is a david i live

a unit kitty-corner from the proposed development living in the mission for a long time and initially we had welling done house was for non-mission residents for the mission area as a result and also with the navigation center the sidewalks have become congested the challenge is here that it is not really the project it is a negotiable project the city needs it but as the person bringing the complaint here has said is it not the right space to do that the reason there is only seating for 40 people they've proposed to serve three hundred 3 times a day 80 percent will linger in the street that is a huge issue for women's and

children their marshall elementary is around the corner so do we need a soup kitchen absolutely is this the right location i don't believe it is they make the right decision a rich city i think i would urge the people that want to develop the kitchen go back and think about the impact people coming in and out. >> thank you very much. >> additional speakers in support of dr requester and positions to the project. >> you can actually any other speakers can line up against the wall so we can save a little bit of time. >> sammy live on mission kittie corner to the adjacent

building we're just moved in there about a year ago and my wife we found out we're having a child and our bedroom and kitchen actively look out to mission street it is basically basically everyday it there's been a line from the navigation center going down mission street to 1920 people are candle out every night they don't move they stay there all day exactly it has to be 9 wrong place for the soup kitchen everything else i mean, i think this is the best idea is a mobile soup kitchen where they

can serve people from any place thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi there how about my name is joanne an owner in in particular building on mission street and over the past 2 1/2 years i saw the block community-based from bad to 12r50e8 bad and simply ask you not allow this soup kitchen now the navigation center that is directly next door i think has had a direct impact in increasing the homeless and transient population on the block and while i'm philosophically in support i think this particular addition of this social service on a

distressed blackstone block is catastrophic i'm squalling harassed everyday catcalls whatever all that stuff i seen everyday defecation and feces and every time we call the police they don't do anything they camp out over night the one time i asked someone not to place music i was physically attacked and they continued to throw themselves against the glass and try to attack me hopefully, there is understandable concern and with the social service we want to increase the amount of homeless

and i - want to emphasize our particular building is filled with caring and normal people that have invested their life savings into the unit and tried very, very hard to - historically had a number of setbacks. >> thank you ma'am, your time is up. >> . >> next speaker, please. >> hello commissioners my name is brandon a resident on mission street a few thoughts although i - putting at soup kitchen in a residential building is inappropriate especially mission people there is a long line that viciniti violates the city code and the navigation center next door go it temporary and will be gone

before people monarch our building as myriad problems and it is million dollars in repairs our building is not set up to handle all the problems are food preparation and every single person didn't want a soup kitchen regarding the amount of letters people all you have to do is sign something no sacrifice i like them to choose a different location or a mobile location that won't unfairly impact the residents i like what tony robins said that shouldn't be a problem. >> in depth. >> hi commissioners, i live on church and mission street i think that is imperative.

>> this is not in support of soup kitchen you support it or not. >> i support it. >> you need to speak in support. >> next speaker, please. >> when i start calling the names for people that support the project i don't understand whether you support it or not but take them out of the crew cue and live on mission street and don't support this project looking forward to the housing project built next door thank you very much. >> any other speakers that next speech. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is a john robison on mission street a property owner since 1999 everybody in mission

street supported the navigation center there was no opposition to it while we live in an urban environment we understand there are things that can go wrong with that said given the fact that is a mixed use building we strongly believe this type of soup kitchen will be better served in a commercial property with no residential units attached to it i want to also i think that is - the soup kitchen is needed in the area but prefer tony robins and others work together to get a soup kitchen. >> next speaker, please. >> my name is a glen an owner in the building and a resident for the last 4 years and speaking out against this

primarily because of the safety issues that have been brought up before there is on numerous occasion i've been blocked from any building and my wife goes to the backside to enter the garage my wife felt front yard to come home at night not to say the soup kitchen by itself will cause the problem the problem exists my main concern is while this will you know while certainly nobody that has spoken against this has spoken out against the need for a soup kitchen i think you know, i think the residents here have concerns about safety that i would like the commission and the city to address you know disheartened to hear

supervisor ronen speak for the owners about the homeless situation i'm hoping that we artists kind of overly bearing the brunt of a citywide discussion thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> >> my name is john i'm a resident on 1 street stre5 stre opposing first of all, god bless you sisters this place is not the place to do it is overrun with everything you can think of you can't walk any 5-year-old granddaughter down the street think about that and having to

watch her every move so i strongly oppose this i know there's a need everybody thinks that and god bless you and maybe find a better appropriate place thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker i'll call 3 names people may not have spoken but in opposition to the project (calling names) if you haven't spoken now is your time to speak please. my name is edith elizabeth i oppose the location of the soup kitchen since i moved in i've watched 20th century the situation from bad to worse and called 9-1-1 there was open prostitution and

discussing going on and the police did nothing my concern the mission is not managed overall for a protection point of view or a homeless point of view so, now we have a small relative to the amount of folks served a relatively small spot we're asking folks to come in and be served three hundred meals a day common sense that the impact to the streets is already over the top frightening and scary and out of control i've yet to see an actual plan how this will be managed and my final thought when the tenderloin situation seems to be the point of view of the resident who co-existed with the service in the past if it didn't happen there why will it happen here and will the police step up protection in the area and final

final thought are our chief of police he'll erase the murders didn't care about needles but we have to we live there. >> thank you. any other speakers in opposition to the project. >> seeing none, i'll call - >> project sponsor you have 10 minutes. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is steve the project architect i have some can i have the overhead, please? i'm with the age neighbor design with the design self-center and we became engaged with the san

francisco interface council as well as our work with the mayor's office of housing and community development the plan shows the interior work 14 hundred square feet with the 10 high feet ceiling with a commercial space and direct frontage to mission street included access to on existing toilet that is part of overall building used that is a used by the building program our proposed design consist of the dining area in yellow directly off the street by occupancy under the code approximately 36 to 42 individuals we are adding a new acceptable toilet room for

the users access to them the rear the area in brown an all electrical kitchen and consists of hot plates and conviction ovens and kitchen appliances there will be a large walk in refrigerator to store the items and a rear storage in the back all there will be compliant with the 4ug9 requirement and all systems are compliant when we started this project a mandate impacts staying away from lightwell we were able to come up with a system that exhausts this through a system directly to the facade on the storefront

the - food will be served by a current to the front operators will have full usual and oust into the spates and finally - the new space will be finished out in materials and the layout we designed is simple and efficient awhile starting to be inviting and comfortably and we hope you'll approve this project. >> additional speakers. >> good afternoon. i'm tony on behalf of the reuben, junius & rose the frarlt of noting are

dam focusing on soup kitchens and hospitals and schools and over and over france they operate on church street since 2008 an enormous success providing a service to the community they have significant rent increase and the generosity of tony robins with the soup kitchen on mission street mr. robins and his team started helping the sisters one year ago and thousand this process has taken a long time their support has not wavered the sisters will operate on church street according to the police department tenderloin commander the soup kitchen is designed in an orderly manner not cried cited for regulatory contrary to

the concerns the sisters operation of the soup kitchen will address loirtd and trash and nuisance in the area the sisters run a tight ship and will do a grateful to help the character of the neighborhood the- this is over 10 months and attempted to address all the concerns one of the principle observations the kitchen didn't have lightwells or common areas and a great expense the sisters have a vent and stove and work with the hov when faced with eviction from the church locations we searched for a new soup on 1928 this is the best and most practical one vacant for over 3 years the location is

ideal geographyly and assessable to the clientele and the affordable housing project next door and no other - i first met the sisters one year ago and witnessed sister marie work tirelessly over the last year to bring the soup kitchen a fruition walked door to door day to day and everyone in the mission knows sister marie we worked with the sisters to find help them with tax matters we've come to profound appreciation of their mission and who they are as people this process has not been easy and many setbacks to spend time you look at the world

in a different way this had included the dr requesters and others who have concerns the sisters are assert disciplined women that care deeply and service the mission it is singular to care for the marginalized in the community and bring them hope where hope is an inacceptable luxury we urge you to approve the soup kitchen an mission street thank you. >> any additional speakers on the project sponsors team. >> good afternoon commissioners i'm sister mary it's been fined in 1971 by john he had a divine inspiration to take care of the poor, the off -

and the sicken the bible 200 and 32 instances when you invite the poor and the crippled and the lamp he lame and blind jesse said sell all you have and give to the money to the poor and you'll become the owner of a treasure in heaven and come back and follow me looking at the disciples fortunate are you that are poor and the kingdom of god is yours and stretch out your hand to the poor and you'll receive a blessing from the lord thank you for your time god bless you. >> thank you. >> any additional speakers on the project team no. >> opening up to public

comment in support of project sponsor (calling names). >> go ahead. >> if your name hesitate has been called please line up on the screen side of the room. >> i'm a resident of the mission district in economically that many patronize the so-called soup kitchen i'm familiar with the history of san francisco treatment of the homeless i'm aware that - many people are not that the grand

jury addressed this this is under control of the executive of human services who crushed that and made is to the board of supervisors never had the report of the grand jury to respond that is required by law to respond either challenging the findings or - where they agreed with the recommendations which should have been answered by the board of supervisors also the public health department and the - human services director. >> they were never answered that way they were just denounced by the person who is in charge of human services that

is a hot subject and needs expiration with outside evaluation and not simply the economic needs of the so-called serving the homeless maybe we don't need all the homeless if we treat them right in good health this would be an norman yee good thing and where the department in san francisco to find how to serve people with food. >> thank you, ma'am. >> thank you, very much. ma'am. >> next speaker, please. >> good morning, commissioners how many times whe were license

and everyone wants to support the soup kitchen when it is not near them i'm a fourth generation native san franciscan and here to support the sisters in their attempt to on the soup kitchen a long history of serving the people of san francisco the main opposition of the property owners to the owns and their fear of value of the property failing is a problem the sisters have been evicted in the tenderloin by a greedy landlord do look at speck last year's needs who don't care about the needs of san francisco thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is mike i work daily picking up

donations from safeway delivering homeless people especially feed the homeless he ran into the sisters doing their work on church street i was thinking food and appreciate what they do they're supportive their hunger the sisters do a good job of feeding them you know they're doing a very good job they should be supported not given a hard time god bless them they're good people. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon hi commissioners from mission regional center so i want to - we're in absolute support for the mission for our community neither for the tenants that live in the immediate

surrounding we actually serve 200 and 50 people a day is migrate to the tenderloin to have lunch are diner so we have people with serious disabilities and elderly this will be been my dream for 15 years to have the food facility to serve the community we're here to support the sisters and deny the request for a dr because it is not - to say never a good place for our services we tried to open before we had 5 blocks saying this is not a good block we went block by block until neighbors saying we're ready to serve the community 15 years later not on cap street we clean the streets 3 times a day and with the acids we are working closely to -

have work at the one hundred block and next to us 15 actually 20 rentals and 4 condo across the street with 80 people our neighbors work together please support the sisters and deny the dr thank you. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> hi commissioner good afternoon my name is moe ii live one block away from the actual location where the sister run their the joint on church street i'll tell you i walk by and people are coming in and out and there is no - i never saw any

body like you know hanging on the wall or piece out of place like all say those people they can't bring to the mission bay i'm going to be a little bit upset if they move from church street i don't know where will they go a lot of people also in the neighborhood of tenderloin they don't even have to go and stay there because the sisters have a small box to go so i've seen personally people coming in and getting their boxes and going back to their sro room so safety the people in the opposition i didn't hear they say safety if you care about safety that is an

issue of scooter not a problem of this - the problem that of mission this has to do with with the food benefits we have to i hope you make the right decision and give them - these people plus the food where else can you get fresh food in san francisco for free come on. >> i'll call more names (calling names). >> please line up against the wall. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm father from 19jones episcopal a short block into the sisters kitchen i live

with my family in the midst we have a homeless encampment just a few steps from any front door and had homeless encampments around the church i'm familiar with many of the challenges that a crisis like this in our city presents to all of us and yet i'm also hoping that our better angels will govern how we respond to a crisis like this it is difficult for all of us and more difficult for those who have no home and especially living in the elements with the wind and rain with no place to go let me tell you a quick story and homeless empowerment when diner time came they'll share their food one night on that block thirty people lined up in need of food many of them had homes to live in but no food the

lack of food is a serious science issue in my community i'm hoping the work that our church does responding to the - there are people not only with compassion and professional women very competent they know what they're doing i welcome them to the neighborhood they'll be wonderful neighborhoods i hope you'll approve. >> next speaker, please. >> iris a nurse lived in the mission for 40 years i approval enthusiastically - i'm unfortunately too low tech to blow up the pictures of children

who are hunger living in san francisco and many in the mission the mission continued to be one of the hardest location of gross inequitable people - it increased in san francisco and i know in the mission in addition to people that are living in the streets many are marginally living in cars including families with children 57 of one person households and others have inadequate income for a basic standard of living in san francisco this is includes seniors who are increasing becoming homeless in 3 shelters in the mission only south van ness 23rd people that are homeless and marginally have increasing savior health problems poor nutrition as a

nurse i find this alarming and a call to action i hope the people that oppose this will join us in the fight more affordable housing for people who live in the street will have housing and food 1928 suspicion is a good spot for the soup kitchen with a difference population of people the sisters soup kitchen will serve a vital need thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon my name is eola strong i represent of the christian church of scientists and we have submitted a letter of support and i'm here to read the support for the substantial services for the sisters they're so selflessly providing we unite

with the christian efforts to provide the foods nutrition for those in need thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> my name is don and these sisters they're commissioned by a their hired for the multi god they doing a job that god called them to do to feed the hungry and help the poor and help the city that's what san francisco stand for st. francis of assisi let me say this these sisters what cook they hands blessed by god i think the real problem is the italian restaurant is scared the competition (laughter) their scared the customers going next door and eating from them

the food is good i think if at the took take the food all people put on a hoody and you'll step over needles and homeless people being the first if line they can cook. >> so i don't see why they oppose the great cooks i'm for the acids their blessed and thank you for hearing me and put on a hoody and try they can cook they really can cook thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> and my name is eileen a case manager and speaking on behalf of the community i'll read the letter i'd like to submit so on behalf of the hospitality house we urge you to

please supports the sisters of the notira a safety net for san francisco's vulnerable residents that are struggling to make ends meet or currently living in the street since 2008 the sisters are an interval part of community serving free meals in the tenderloin due to the dramatic rents the sisters must find a new site to do the good of the community and the city and county of san francisco those emphasized by the sisters to serve the poor they have an ideally place they've demonstrated over the years the

sisters now how to create a safe and clean environment by he having person relationships with the people that come to them for help the sisters represent all the values that makes san francisco a welcoming place for all people regardless of their income or situation please vote yes to our project as they strive to improve the lives of the most vulnerable population in san francisco community. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> hi there i'm alice from the interfaith council food and security means you don't know where their next meal comes from since 2008 the the sisters are an integral part of san

francisco serve free meals an church street they have to find found a new place through a generous location they found mission the sisters know how to run this food kitchen and create personal relationships with the people they serve those people love the sisters they love the sisters i urge you to approve that project the bible says their bless they share with the poor those sisters do that thank you. >> i'm a third generation san franciscan and a small business owner and resident within a two block radius of the site i want to show my support for the

sisters while i understand my neighbors opposition this base our neighborhood has been overrun with extensive numbers of homelessness and crimes while the city works on the complex issues for housing services i believe that we must offer support services to this directly impact who is happening on the street and i believe this is something we should protect and support so i urge you to grant permission to move forward with this project thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> i'll call some more names

(calling names). >> i'm a - one that you called at the end of the opposition i don't know my card got mixed up. >> i did call your name. >> somehow, i got in the wrong pile. >> there were 3 names left i said in oppositions. >> i'm for it. >> oh, go ahead. >> i'm sorry it you a you bet. >> pastor of the homeless church of the assembles of god in san francisco i'm full-time i'm saying the service not the wonderful french pastries which have faithfully offered to the

people in the city they're a blessing to the city and also a credit to the city itself they're great love for the poor and personal commitment to the welfare they truly exemplify the heart of the city it bears the name of st. francis of assisi one man tony robins on the first floor on 1928 he understand the value and exemplar work i ask you to grant the permission and the blessing for their services to the poor on 1928 mission street. >> thank you in depth. >> father paul from the church the advent the episcopal church

i don't know on south street we have our challenges in the neighborhood people don't believe that anymore we do i think this is thank you for listening to us this is such an important conversation as we deal with the humanitarian crisis we all watch everyday those sisters are not part of the problem they're part of solution this is not about just food it is about friendship, love, human dignity, to those who most of us pass by without knowing their names or stories the sisters are offering hope and the first step often in getting out of that situation not only about quote/unquote homelessness but about hunger and passport many people that come have jobs and children that

won't only attract certain kinds of people we're afraid of so deny this change of zoning is not going to keep the problem away i think that will perpetual the crisis the sisters presence in the neighborhood can actually make it better. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hello my name is melody and i'm here to tell you i love the sisters very much and when i look into marie icy feel like i'm no heaven and can't harder wait until we're all in heaven together after the east mission community meeting he walked past 1928 mission

street and watched them joy fully house those the love with them knows no income range what i hope on turk street i observed people coming to them with joy in their faces seeking to help in some way and often seen the hope physicalness after the sisters are tucked away for the night money can't buy love can't pay a human being to care i'd rather spend one minute with the sisters than 99 percent of the 17 years i've spent trying to obtain and never ref appropriate help in the city and county of san francisco in 1975 and my drivers ed class courtesy

can take us the sisters don't put up with crap they do it in a loving manner and observed that loving manner makes people of all income brackets respond to them in kind i'm a san franciscan since 1978. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> well, that's a tough act to follow my name is gary i'm a retired police captain i served 3 years in the tenderloin in command time i was introduced to the 2008 to their soup kitchen and the effects it had in the community and particularly on the block church street i've likened to speakers on both sides but the people have not

described the positive effect the sisters have their operation the cleanliness, the orderliness and the tremendous positive influence that they bring through the service they provide is very impressive and has combrefd me as the champion of the police and the fact they're willingness and help with the community policing and bringing that positive influence that helps the community make it a better and safer place i served 10 years working in the mission district i'm familiar with the 19 hundred block of mission and not because of the number of service calls there i can tell you this is what the 19 hundred block of mission street needs a

positive influence thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> male my name is john, i rise to speak on behalf of the going backal project and the executive director laura and our support for the sisters effort to open up the soup kitchen at the site they have been our neighbors in the tenderloin since a number of years now and speak to they're being a good neighbor they have as our previous speakers have indicated improved the neighborhood resources and cleanliness and the respect in the location where they're related to. >> district 8 in the mission per the san francisco food safety test study 2013 has the third largest number of homeless and the 6 number of unshelters

homeless resident a 43 percent is un12rer8d and that means they have no assess the shelter or meals or homelessness this is not a question of bringing more people to the location but providing services to people that are already present if in location they're in desperate need and the sisters already have a collaboration with our stefz and the churches and the neighborhood centers and any, any other society services that desire their presence do you have any bread those are words i hear everyday for the going backal project for the episcopal church they come from people that are housed no sros within a

several block radius i hope that san francisco, california find a way through the sisters to say yes, we have bread for all to live here thank you very much. >> thank you next speaker, please. >> good evening, commissioners chair i'm tom i'd like to show my undying and unwavering support for the sisters i'm a recipient to the flowers organization i'm 6 year sobriety through an sro none would be possibly without the nuns that follow before and after her i'm here to address security manner for the soup kitchen you myself at 6 foot 3 of equal statute we

provide deeternities for anyone if someone approaches the soup kitchen we don't turn them away but offer food to go i having say have a nice day and help the nuns when they go to homeless camps i feel safe with them and think that through the unwavering support and the amount of articulation that people have concerned how bad the neighborhood was i don't see it getting worse with the presence of the nun in the shelters that are readily needed by myself thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please.

>> good afternoon, commissioners i'm a born and raised san franciscan who actually grew up at church street next to the church mission we don't take discretionary review and ask you to approve this this exists in a transit area next to the navigation center on 1950 mission mission housing is slated to build over one and 50 units of affordable housing next to the soup kitchen and we'll be honored to be their neighbors we civil grand jury need more housing especially, as we approach this critical time in our history we're all standing to be determined how we combat the envelope razor ideas i

believe - we need this morning any other time at mission housing we believe in goodwill towards the people and compassionate and acts of cuisines to alleviate the pressures we believe this exemplifies and glad we welcomed them as neighbors and definitely look forward to doing so and to the sisters i haven't spoken french since high school i'll give this a shot. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> welcome to the community thank you. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> hi, my name is susan i'm speaking on behalf of the 16

coalition a coalition off the mission neighborhood and the delores heights and the quatro and mix connective agencies the housing rights and the union and the red stone association and dozens of others we also sent you a letter we'd like to express our very, very sin care support no formally kitchen for the homeless and for those living in the private sros that do not have kitchens they provide a very valuable service we welcome them into our community i would like to mention that when i was looking at public schools i was told by the school board oh, you can apply to

marshall elementary because not. people request that school because the neighborhood considered an urban desirable neighborhood we went to the school anyway they have a spanish immersion program and waldon house was there next door to the school and waldon house was never a problem for the school in fact, we found to be a wonderful neighbor that was full of life and vitality we think that soup kitchen will further that community and caring for one another i hope i think this will be kind of a no-brainer for you guys. >> i'll call more people's

names (calling names). >> hello, i'm susan a i'm here speaking as a lifelong resident my grandmother rest in peace had a restaurant on the street i'm here to support the sisters of nomd and building that there's a broader issue that is represented here which is that the religious institutions have the same affordability issues we're seeing many institutions leave the city and churches and schools soup kitchens a number of institutions i think we need to really think about what we're doing to support the work that

they do in all of the spaces which say, i think really at the core of this whole of san francisco i'm seeing a lot of changes and a lot of changes in my lifetime 40 plus years one thing i don't want to see changed i think again that there is a fabric that is, i think san francisco has character tied but i hope you'll find it in your hearts to support the sisters on mission. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hello commission i'm margaret i'm a reliant of the 19 thirty mission building i want to give my full support to this project and wanted to comment on some of the comments from people in opposition to the project about the danger or that

experience they had that's not matching any experience being a resident of the building certainly people on the sidewalks but not personally been threatened excuse me - can i get through this building i generally found that people are not a threat to me but i do think the soup kitchen will provide a valuable service if anything i'll expect it to increase order in the neighborhood but over having - not consider them to be more likely to not make the neighborhood more dangerous thank you. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is christopher i live about a block

from the proposed site i want to say quite simply i believe when people are fed with dignity and compassion like the sisters they not only receive that human need of nutrients but a sense of community and belonging i believe that the sisters will be an asset to the neighborhood and completely support the kitchen thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. i'm rudy and volunteering for the sisters since 2010 and due to the fact the neighborhood the majority of people that we feed are from the neighborhood and given the fact that the services the respect level for the sisters is meant i guarantee i'm certain most of issues that the opposition is having will be remedied because the people that use the services

don't allow that we - i've actually you know make sure that everybody he know the majority of people we feed they know me for a long time so the level of respect is really high for the sisters it should clean up the neighborhood quite a bit thank you. >> thank you very much i'll call the last of cards (calling names). >> if your name has been called feel free to approach the podium. >> hi good afternoon my name is will democracy i'm a resident in san francisco for 36 years

and to start with the person that spoke earlier from the going backal project they have a letter to submit it wasn't here in time so much of what i was going to say has been said 3 times but i want to say that i live in the tenderloin, and we have a view of bodecker park from my window for 17 years i have seen bodecker park transform like you wouldn't believe now like the 9 best park in the country an article written and ten years ago, i was afraid to go in there that is addressing people think it will get worse when i go through 1

and mission i don't see how that can get worse that is iss this is more than a band-aid my understanding that the sisters are going to be serving other neighborhoods as well not just this neighborhood where they're moving to they serve in down by the combaeshg and the price is minimal what will it cost the cost of a assessment of the building once a year by the board of health a free gift i think you should take it and fully support the sisters their incredible when i'm around them i feel like i'm wrapped that joy thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon my name is

carl today i'm representing united to save the mission over 20 mission groups in the neighborhood we strongly support bringing this petition to mission street and ask you to approve it today this base will serve an immediate need both in the surrounded neighborhood and particularly on the block it exists it is critical in the placement the kitchen previous location tenderloin was adjacent to the downtown the proposed location on mission street is equally if not more assessable by multiple transportation routes 2017 will be a pivotal year san francisco can't continue on the trajectory towards an impersonal economy we must have connections - mayor

ed lee has been attempting to deny this for centuries we can't begin the year by giving them this vicinities victory it is important at this time we take to heart the words of forgive for it has human life on earth has lost it's meaning that is impervious what meaning will be left in the st. francis if we can't find the strength to put the soup kitchen home to an affordable complex and coordinating from an sro hotel therefore let us connect with the angels and move forward with approval thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is reverend i'm pastor of saint

mary's the night ministry has been around the city loving and working with the brothers and sisters in the middle of the night i have walked the mission by myself between the hours of 10 at night and 4:00 a.m. for 9 years approximately, i hear it is dangerous all this stuff i just yes, i've seen some things but not entirely from our homeless brothers and sisters from people who are drinking and get out of hand in the bars, etc. i served an open cathedral and also along with dinner every thursday night on the mission

from the bart station in the blaz the sisters are acting i can honestly tell you you've heard a lot of times we need a place where people will be fed not only nourished but have spiritually - you can stop and talk to the sisters and brothers they're human beings and have incredible stories love budget committee gets love kindness budget committee gets kindness we feed over one and 50 people every thursday not enough food for everybody from the sros or those living on the streets there's often children and families that come out so this is a real big need and the only

thing i can tell you like especially everyone else has said in favor of the sisters of notra dom they'll beautify the place your time is up. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> i've been in san francisco since 14 years all my life - due to the - i went to city college and majored in structural engineering i'm just able to go to the boot camp due to the hardship like became homelessness we were walking no

place to eat and someone said they give out food i'm squared to go i have no money but it was free and we went through 3 times and ended up helping the sissy have 7 kids no parents only me we go to the sister my children starting to attend the services and went to the bible studies go to the sister they help her clean up and i have noticed differences in my children's school like the 3 girls are student of the month and everyday like to get a call everyday and the principal has been asking what i've done my wife tell the principal i take

any children to the sisters everyday please ask you guys if you guys can approve the project what the sisters have done for my wife and children there is a family that cannot help their situation i'm here to speak up for the families the sisters services are most valuable to the public i'm asking you to approve the project. >> any other speakers besides the two gentlemen against the wall that would like to speak. >> next speaker, please. >> also for those popcorns that maybe be in the overflow room 416 now is the time to come up. >> hi commissioners i'm a student i live 4 hundred 70 stevenson and for me for today, i haven't had my food until now

for the past tuesday not to 6:00 p.m. i went to the sisters and the sisters the only thing i want to say the sisters really know how to cook and - for me and for my peers and also for the people on the street i think that is not that people have a stereotype towards them are they're not working or stuff that's why the people are in hunger and people can't concentrate for me, i have a difficulty i only sleep like 3 hours or 5 hours in a row people on the street what their hungry they shout out in crazy terms in the residents here are familiar they'll shout out at 3:00 a.m. or 3:00 p.m. very randomly so my

sleep schedules are in huge conflict with my daily schedules so i thank you for what sisters has done for me and the sisters have done for the neighborhood as well as the similar institutions have done for the community thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> >> good afternoon. my name is eric i'm a resident of 1963 and here in support of this soup kitchen growing up in the mission it is historical that a lot of the churches are involved with the communities in the mission and community it is who we are you know st. peter and saint charles hope people in need with the services in the neighborhood part of who we are

as a community and the need in the commission we need to support this project and making sure we feed our families and folks that are don't have homes right now so thank you. >> thank you >> next speaker, please. >> thank you i wasn't going to speak because we had an accident but i felt compelled to speak i'm a neighbor in the mission one 70 a block and a half from the proposed location as a female my bus stop for work is adjacent to the building where this proposed - sorry. >> new venture will be possibly built if it is approved i do work and commute i also

take the bart i am in the travel vicinity throughout the evening and day so i have developed a one by one relationship with the our house neighbor and all i have to say right now that we can really use something like that in our neighborhood i want to volunteer and have a handful of neighbors that would like to as well and would love to welcome the sisters thank you for all your hard work and thank you for listening. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> my name is reverend doctor timothy the director the youth of the mission an alice street opposite of memorial church, i serve on the advisory committee a coalition member of the

microsoft market street for the mass and champion the police board been living in the neighborhood for the last 9 years a regular practice to attend every single malia cohen on the last tuesday of every month i can say and testify in support of sisters the sisters attend that meeting if you're concerned about safety if you're concerned about coordination the sisters will provide that they interface with the police department and the neighbors and work together in coalition and just as concerned about the goodness of the neighborhood and seen that proven that over the years i've served in the tenderloin thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next speaker and maybe last speaker. >> if you're lucky well

we do want to let you you know we've sent people home we thought that was - i want is summarize a few points i'm peter good afternoon, commissioners and speaking on bailiff the meta in conjunction with other mission groups i think that the testimony from laura guzman is telling me there is an excellent and long stand project in the mission and the collaboration between the two groups we've seen going forward that's widespread support and for supervisor ronen a strong advocate and in terms of the crisis we are facing and the fundamental issues like food instability for families this is a critical project and happy to support the project and ask you to deny the dr today thank you

very much. >> thank you very much any other speakers seeing none, dr requester number one you have a two minute rebuttal. >> dr requester number one. >> sir. >> thanks again for letting me come up up it is moving to here the various people come up and talk i come down on the you know firm belief this is not the right place for the project needs to be in another location even if this is close not being a residential building where children and people that are

scared for their safety are living in that's what i want to say thank you. >> thank you. >> dr requester number two, two minutes. >> thank you for hearing me again i don't have any more to say i still believe that the city is not showing they have a program here that is coordinator this is a band-aid to us i i belive the question is if we have the soup kitchen who answers the phone when we have and continue to have problems will the city could be and say this is not our decision i ask you that i know you can't answer for the police department but i know in having called them and trying to get them out there they'll not do

anything the soup kitchen is a great i didn't do hope the city will stand behind us. >> that concludes the portion go apologize project sponsor. >> two minutes. >> we'll available for any questions that is commission may have. >> thank you that concludes this portion the hearing commissioners, i, go first? >> in no one else. >> commissioner hillis. >> thank you and thank you to everybody that came out and testified normally we're the keepers of the planning code and zoning we hear a lot of issues where residentials should go and our office the planning code is not clear where the institutions should go and when we have

intended to get a lot of turn out where their preschools or medical marijuana or in this case a food soup kitchen but i think the testimony was extremely compelling in that there are issues on that block from hearing from our existing neighbors from the tenderloin is great i certain commend the services you provide and what you've done for that neighborhood i'm strongly supportive and hope we we heard with you added to the neighborhood and helping the block will come true i wish you the best of luck and thank you for all your hard work in support the project and again, the dr. >> thank you commissioner koppel. >> thank you for coming out i'm going to be in support of project i have a couple of

thoughts for the opposition i'm treating this with the uppermost importance this is an existing operation that was adopted but thank god more important to find them a home i want the public to know that supervisor ronen was here for all of the oppositions comments so i'm confident this will be on her radar and the pillows will give this the attention if it is needed i think instead of a mobile this is more suited for the equipment food storage and bathrooms and garbage disposals garbage will be tough to operate through a mobile go position i think this will put more eyes

on the street and to the person that thinks that will only get worse i don't agree. >> thank you commissioner moore. >> i think that is within the books and consumption reuben, junius & rose to know we're way within what needs to be deny done we have to look at interlock our hearts and plenty of testimony i think nothing in the description is against it we have ample evidence if other locations including the tenderloin the soup kitchen is an empowering use of transformers and i believe the orders come with the operation will be positive benefits the support of community and all the aspects of people that have spoken from clerk to other businesses to the service organizations i couldn't be more

supportive what they asked and no need to take dr i believe that ultimately i do hope that the upstairs neighbors will find their own voice and supporting this. >> that would be the most wonderful thing. >> commissioner melgar. >> so i'm also in support of this project it does comply with the code i want to say i was happy to hear from mission housing development corporations the building next door and made me know ultimately some of the facility issues that the dr requesters proctor brought up

be addressing the safety issues down the street i've spent the last had months talking about the issues of the gentrification and crisis we are having and i think that is exactly the kind of thing we need to address ios issues so with that. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> and thank you for being here. >> thank you. i'll go next and let you follow-up commissioner johnson. >> the standard we have here before us is exceptional or extraordinary despite all the overwhelming testimony we need to come back to that when we have other discretionary reviews we have exceptional or extraordinary situations around clustering where we have too many of the

same kind of businesses that are causing on impact where one or two by themselves doesn't matter but when you put several together have a problem exceptional or extraordinary looking at this thing one i don't see where there is clustering the waldon house is gone a navigation center that will become permanent housing the clustering i see are frankly the communities that needs this is right where they'll have their establishments set up that's the clustering really on the other side i was go back to ask mr. tony how tight a ship the sisters do in terms of line management based on the testimony of the former captain and people have testified i have faith they'll

continue to do what they do and pardon my french they don't take any crap and lastly it is interesting because i liken this to the cafeteria they line up and wait for their brunch on saturday and sunday where i live the interesting and have take out those places the interesting thing they have a different clientele people pay money in the mary of nazareth restaurant have a diversity clientele and it is not free i have a hard time findings that were any other restaurants have lines for the film festival and clubs in

my neighborhood that have lines every night one of the first speaker that got up and which had the first speaker said she'll with a patron wow, that is the kind of patron it will have a stable effect i'm supportive of not taking dr i'll not wait maybe but for commissioner johnson to make that motion on a personal point we live in a bubble especially, after wri78 honestly the bubble mentally whether i look at the report on the percentage of the residents for the pantry i didn't imagine that was 31 percent of the residence that have food shortage the gentleman

that lives and 6 and stevenson doesn't eat until 6:00 p.m. that hit home i can't mingle i'm hungry now i will try to come down and happily support that i'll not wear a hoody but support you. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you. >> combrep pretty much i think all the commissioners have said when i said and commissioner vice president richards scombroment and people are crowding the sidewalk their paying one bucks and people are paying nothing and mention that based on the food insecurity and the clientele not just in san

francisco but around the bay area and the country you're actually going to feed people not in the tenderloin on the street they maybe housed and working they just have a lack of resources and coming to a place that is necessary like the dry cleaner or any other neighborhood service i hope the issues let's not confuse them with the homeless population in san francisco and look at all sides not that that is of the potential with the kitchen being there their - so move to not take dr. >> second. >> director rahaim. >> thank you, commissioners i wanted to mention a couple of things, of course, the staff recommend you not take dr we certainly are supportive i want to mention a couple of things i

live about a block and a half from the site i want to acknowledge many of the facility issues by the residents are real their safety issues i've personally experienced them and don't want to minimize that from the staffs point of view commissioner johnson almost i don't want to put words in your mouth but i actually having a managed situation actually improve the situation on in block that's one of the reasons we've recommended approval i will say lake many conditional use you often have a community liaison and the contact information that would be helpful and add that to our recommendations we'll be happy to facilitate that and one of the speakers mentioned the navigation center is all the

navigation centers are temporary we are reviewing a project 100 percent approval that application came in about 4 months ago it is 100 percent affordable project and the navigation center will close when that project move forward this probably my guess within a year they start construction i want to make sure the navigation center is by design to be temporary thank you, thank you director. >> commissioner moore. >> i said to ask director rahaim to remember how hard we worked on one that was torn down prior to it being what that is now the lines were difficult and impossible to manage not enough sidewalks and undercutting of the property and what a difference 2 made when it was down i drove down there and

people were lining up not trying to push each other out of sequence and how that building is handled so the soup kitchen and dining hall. >> commissioner johnson. >> i wasn't sure if any other commissioners were going to jump on director rahaim i will make a motion not to support the kitchen a liaison it is important to have them they'll be inundated with issues has nothing to do with with the operations i feel getting calls of people setting up tents on the streets or sleeping outside things that are endemic to poefrnl to the neighborhood and some of the facility issues in the immediate areas unrelated to the operations of the soup kitchen i think that is an undue

burden on this use. >> perhaps mr. tony the people that are actually physically monitoring the situation have a type of identification badge a real issue someone seize small business something happen they'll go to someone. >> i still think action action happening you call 9-1-1 that's the kind of action people are concerned about but sure. >> (laughter). >> i volunteer. >> for the mary the nazareth restaurant. >> please call the question. >> there is a motion that has been seconded to not take dr and approve commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore and commissioner vice president richards so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to

zero. >> the commission commission break. >> good afternoon and welcome back to the planning commission remind the members of the audience that the commission does not tolerate disruptions of any kind. commissioners, we left off excuse me - our discretionary review calendar on item 9 leeland avenue discretionary review. >> and fellow conversions planning department staff the item before you is a request for discretionary review for the proposed project on leeland after a through lot logged on at the end of leeland abutting the property to demolish an existing church for 5 single-family homes

3 story single-family homes on 3 with which the avenue and lee lapd's avenue during the public notification won request for discretionary review was filed by the alliance and the primary concerned the neighborhood compatibility and mclaren park and the existing church and natural habitat and accessibility and site acquisitions following the request for the discretionary review the residential design guidelines reviewed it and the project sponsor has come applied with the request with the formation of the change the rdt didn't include over and over create any exceptional or extraordinary with regards to the building design and massing further the rdt found it not

adversely effect 9 reviews mclaren park four additional letters of opposition were submitted to staff and to the department the same day fran martin on the boost alliance all are materials are being forwarded in evaluating that the department founds the 5 between comply with the general plan and they provided the affordable housing with the proposed provisions the project is consistent with the scale of the neighborhood as well as the residential design guidelines the department didn't find under to in exceptional or extraordinary stated by it project and recommends the commission do not take dr that concludes my presentation.

i'm reliable to answer any questions. >> thank you dr requester you have a 5 minute presentation. >> once sfgovtv will put it on its up there now. >> my name is fran i'm alleviated that the award-winning visitacion valley we have an excellent track

record and changed the face of visitacion valley to the better several hundreds units of affordable housing and promise future jobs for the alliance we initiated the finance for the escape with improvements and the library it is design is flunsdz by the planning alliance creating the vice mayor redevelopment area in 2010 the planning alliance got the award for hard won battles with the planning department and the sf redevelopment as your sister organization the visitacion valley continues as a clamming class room for the dollar served consultant we're not attended to the jobs it creates on the contrary we embrace it particularly with the city's environment housing space should go hand in hand the 570 project sponsor in a - we're proud to

be imaginative we imagined visitacion valley and brought it to past we continue to do in the visitacion valley at the western edge of mclaren park the deadlines skwant afforded by schools with the majority of our mclaren park the glen eagle golf course is a skufl field since the visitacion valley neighborhood a located near complaerp visitacion valley does are access to mclaren park -

the only remaining assessable open space shown ore main concern is outlined in green with the scope of the avenue adjacent to the leeland project 7 exceptional or extraordinary requesting a discretionary review for 570 leeland development are overwhelmingly supported one loss of have you and loss of sunlight depending on the lethal of the sunlight and day on mclaren park lots of neighborhood character of the demolition of the church and - number 4 environmental planning issues including a close

proximity to visitacion valley further renovated gardens education and- posed native plant so for not a plant that shows the different interface with the leeland avenue intrusion with the narrow space for next to invitation with the existing playground and creation of a blind spot on the western edge the project and c loss of geography graph sand dunes and 5 architecture we lost is this the general plan and particularly children the only flat area in the housing is behind the church. >> 7 the equality with visitacion valley has been neglected and used for what neighborhood don't want

automobile or ecology we welcome the high density housing this is dire we know that that - next to the pathway for middle school students the largest large project make no mistake the developers are not doing this project to create more family housing we arguely the most disfranchised neighborhood in the city visitacion valley is ignoring the issues the social justice lee loaned it the highest in charge planning and the eir should have been done there are too hot spots right here and here that need tobacco altercate with in terms of the planning issues the zero lines the site and the red are the shadow lines and other people had been speaking about that ms. martin your time

is up. >> here's our petition and letter. >> thank you. >> so we'll now hear from the speakers in optimistic to the project and in support of dr (calling names). >> you can line up and speak if your name has been called. >> good afternoon members of the board i'm shawn smith senior i live across the street from the proposed development and i feel me and my neighbors are concerned about the demolition of the church and the construction of the existing open space that will seriously

adverse have adverse effects for the characteristics of our neighborhood and cultural heritage the developers project includes demolishing a church and which is only one of 5 churches in the area both african-american and the congregation the after-school programs also that are at 590 leeland are now gone because of this the determination by the planning that the church is not historical significance is without reference tote cultural heritage what is considered to be an important piece of our neighborhood to our neighborhood the work that was done by the church by james murray who has a landmark church by north hollywood and the mosaic church

in los angeles that individual was the same one that built that church that was considered our church has not historical value and was to say that's far beyond the truth the church constitutes an important fabric to the neighborhood to correct the miss statement by the project sponsor that the gone gas station that worked up there didn't serve the land it was sold by different owners in the north part of city we are equally concerned into the loss of open space behind the church which is the neighborhood residence and park staff that has historically been concerned to be part the mclaren park we need it to the avenue

where the kids walk down to their homes i'm going to read a quote from the general planning and it says quote existing housing and neighborhood character shall be served and in order to preservers the fist diversity of our neighborhood we feel that whether behove us to have what we have now in a better circumstances than what is proposed to have 5 unit that will be there thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon all my in my name is jim i'm with the green project here to speak in more

detail about the development impact on the views i have - have the proposed development of 5, 3 story houses will be 3 distances from the park and the church and visitacion valley and san bruno mountains sightlines into mclaren park within mclaren park thereby will be eliminated there are visual only from the area of

the mclaren park will be lost forever the story shown if ♪ our photos are clear will have a detrimental view on the park you can see burglary /* before and after the impacts of this project on views tell much the same story the other views taken by the sponsor if above the visitacion valley middle schools are not relevant because they are not near the proposed project and on a steep slope far on the hill invitation avenue near manziel other photos were taken from behind the trees rather than from the pathways in an open area giving a false

expression the beauty of open space behind the church is views unparallel in the valencia within a walking distances for residents as to the grid street map it is showing there are no good views in this part of city only in the north thank you >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is ian i work and here to speak about the impacts the loss of sunlight and shadows cast on open space and the pathway from the midway valencia school

proposed by the development of 5, 3 story buildings depending on the time and day and year on the proposed development from ransomed avenue to leeland along the invitation avenue up to 90 feet of shadows these shadows - used by local residents and children interest the visitacion valley middle school an eir is triggered by a proposed degree those proposed buildings will have a clear and detrimental effect on the community and the ecology of the adjacent mclaren park i'd like to point out that the

general plan spaits states under guiding principles for open space and recreation policy to preserve the sunlight in open spaces solar access to open space should be elected and warming rays are important climatic change factors the humidity and wind only wind and direct sunlight therefore the shadows by new developments nearby what critical demolish the comfort of open space i'd like to point out priority policy no. 4 our parks and open space and access to sunlight be protected from those elements thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> >> good afternoon my name is adu draw the director with

the imperatively justice to talk about the project on leeland's over the jars mclaren park has lost over half of it's acre the parcel is part mclaren park historically the public has considered the open space behind the church to be part of the park and to discover the land was sold by the developer the rec and park department has maintained the site behind the church and besides the church building it to be rec and park open space from the middle school to the avenue is compromised and interrupted that will create a pathway to the public next to the invitation avenue where it meets raymond avenue and to improve the land

witnessed by the projects began the puc rain garden and improved open space that is drought tolerant from learn in an area lacking accessibility the leeland with ruin this over time the construction needs to be started this year within the garden adjacent the area provides open space to the seniors in the community center leeland's after their forced to walker walk into the streets and no assess to the park and sidewalk on the street the only flat open space near the community center is on raymond the middle school students take that pathways to and from school this should be protected from

the larger open space and more importantly doctor michael sf department the biological among other people have identified this site as a sand dune and a habitat for existing native plant open spaces should be built on the quality both natural and cultural and recite the diversity and bio diversity furthermore this inspires the connection to this place thank you. >> thank you.

>> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is tony walker i live next door to the property project on raymond i've lived there over 50 years your neighbors are steering wheel concerned about the offer sized house they're out of character and 3 stories solely the houses in our neighborhoods are two stories the proposed home is three to four times larger together with the project on leeland and will create a place where views are blocked and massive intrusion on mclaren park open space the homes themselves have supposed to be 4 bedroom but experience has taught us we designated as study and rec rooms are extra bedrooms a need for more that concludes

my remarks in my photo this is the 5 hundred block of raymond cars all the way town and park users from the staff garden and students working in the community garden that will have 80 gardens a no where to park in violation avenue and the project at the end of leeland is approximately 15 feet from invitation after the upper roads need to be shored up on raymond impeding and forcing the children into the street the point this area needs to be planned comprehensively to protect the pedestrians right now they view the path its concrete need next to my home to get to school we're concerned

about the loss of this concrete path the middle schoolers and the seniors use it on a regular basis without that path they're forced to go into a pa get that is not concrete closure to invitation avenue in you know anything about jiegs for the best practices actually there seems to be no plan only granting a permit the luxury homes have no value to our community not add to the city's stock the affordable housing people that pass those million dollars home and feel their way better than the substandard living i quote from our dr

request that existing hours and neighborhood character be preserved and protected to preserve the equitable diversity of our neighborhood thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm teach a craze at the boys and girls club i was a director for 14 years and a teacher with teachers called the natural history of the visitacion valley valencia school a part of fundamental program was the field trips to mclaren park to have a hands on experience about ecology those are an introduction to mclaren park to my students the variety

of reasons but one of the reasons the lack of easy access to the typography and the golf course this had is improved for the neighborhood to help to fascist assess to the park as well as renovation of the community garden the mclaren park park planned from lee land will be the entranceway as well as for the expanded population at the executive park and sunnyvale and parks in general local use and children as well as adult volunteers have brarptd in improving the areas for the efforts for rec and park improving the trail that fwoupz

from the middle school also part of this planning and vision has been for the improvement and the desire for environmental education center leeland is direct access to the mclaren park the 5 lee loaned project in the middle of those improvements the general public comment of visitacion valley including the future residents and the nearby seniors are tacked by the connectivity only assessable to 9 public is visitacion valley leeland project is allowed to go forward the placement to connect this to mclaren park they should require an eir we have the opportunity sorry - i also thought that was important to maintain the community says that the church is connected to the neighborhood

i want to give you an idea - >> can you speak into the mike please. here's where visitacion valley school and the paths that the students have worked on and other members of the community this is where the existing 5 hundred leeland and the church as an environmental center to the future gardens. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, everybody are we still awake good my name is linda schaffer i don't will in the neighborhood and don't live in visitacion valley my concerns about the proposal stem from

permanent interest i've had for many years interest in preserving bio diversity parks and open space in the city and environmental justice because of these interests among other things i've spent 8 and a half years representing district 10 and the environmental community on the rec and park and open space advisory committee as long as prozac i want to share a couple off observations when i learned with you all subject of preserving the bio diversity on ellison will be sharing more information about the california native plant society interest in the issue but what i'd like to do it kind of give a behind-the-scenes peak of 2015 prozac meeting

where analysis was prevented by rec and park staff of this site in response to it proposed for acquisitions by rp b and what i can tell you the rp b staff rated this site and desirable for acquisitions and pointed out that was suitable for passive or active recreation and it has views there were 12 representative into the community that spoke one after another i think tony and shawn were there so eloquently that when it was finished prozac voted 12 sorry 13 to one to recommend that the property be added to the acquisitions list and substantially voted voted 12

to two to recommend to the rec and park commission that the landed be acquired as quickly as possible i don't know if you appreciate what a remarkable achievement prozac never passed any motion part of the voting rules in order to pass a motion that requires a majority of the members of the committee there are 23 members of this committee regardless of who is there that he meeting so to get 12 or 13 people at the meeting and only 15 people there to vote in favor of a position is quite an achievement reflects how strongly they were compassionate thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please.

>> short. >> good afternoon my name is ellen as my colleague linda mentioned i am president of the local chapter of california native plant society as long as 9 and neighbor and lifelong resident and care about san francisco overall certainly the housing concerns are very important to me so is open space and don't want to overlook that i wanted to let you know i've presided over the board meeting our shop supported to and the visitation alliance we ask for a eir to be done on this location

there are two local plants that are rare and some plant they need to be considered in this project the sf california crow tony have information and documents that will talk about the status of those plants here we want to emphasis the importance of the letter by the doctor july 16th he confirmed the presence have to locally rare plants on the project site and reports the delivery discovery the whole area is a previously unknown rare remnant of the habitat one can harder fault the staff

when performing their environmental review their unaware of those hidden treasures we have the evidence as ray suggestion requires a full eir is the right thing to do to preserving the diversity unfortunately, he of the not here i don't have any expertise to answer the questions but have a letter from the yerba buena chapter the plant society in his report and visitacion valleys request alliance request for a full eir i can also report that in the expert opinion of woods consulting was a magnificent searchable database throughout san francisco the presence of a 2-way street local rare plants

that doctor mason found must be analyzed pursuant to california environmental quality act. >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon commissioner my name is linda i'm here to represent the many, many volunteers in this mclaren park i felt i personally records for over 20 years ♪ amazing park i belong to the collaborative and many other goes up to advocate for mclaren park my my husband and i each volunteer hundreds of hours every year towards this amazing park this property has been pointed out on the edge of mclaren park and therefore a lot of issues with that you jaing

how shocked we were to find out that even the staff didn't release those parcels that are now proposed for did development were not originally part of park we thought that must be a terrible mistake we assumed those parks have great assess from visitacion valley in the church that have been maintained by the rec and park were part of mclaren park he also attend as a volunteer a lot of rec and park commission meetings and he can't tell you how many times i stood in the audience to hear about shadow effects the conclusion i came to say little by little we're nibbling away of the parks to be in the view of building more housing the crisis is upon us we need the housing but the fact is the residents of the

housing are going to need unencumbered open space and total assess for people with disabilities is so important >> right now the rec and park department is engaged in a huge project called the envisioning for mclaren park part the 2020 bond program that was passed we want to be able to show the people how they can envision mclaren park and starred to plan this process here along comes a development that totally puts into disray the ideas and dreams and the envisioning that the people in this neighborhood have wanted to see the plan for a new future for mclaren park and approving that project at it design will be taking a giant step backward we want to bring

mclaren park into its own as it designation park it's been struggling to become. >> any other speakers in support of dr requester in opposition to the project? >> seeing none, project sponsor 5 minutes. >> good evening commissioner vice president richards and members of the commission i'm on behalf of the project sponsors i'm joined by project sponsors my architect and our view consultant i am of want to acknowledge what the last speaker said and start at the beginning a privately owned set of parcels been privately owned since 195 the church went voluntarily on the open market in a transaction like point other real estate purchase

sounds like the community for many years relied on the private parcels to provide amenities were at work into out of mclaren park or some of the facilities on the edge of mclaren park he can't stress enough those are 5 private parcels been there privately held by the church any clients came forward with a proposal for families sized single-family homes this is a rarest you don't see them in the neighborhoods the housing crisis - you know in more established mixed use neighborhood by the way, here we go in a residential zoned rh1 with a 40 height limit with an establishment a family neighborhood built that way and i suspect the people that will occupy the new home will reflect the make up of the people in the

intergenerational families we urge the city to do we are losing families and can't find housing that is adequate and many families want to be extend families and live their generation with grandparents and children i want to get into the nitty-gritty and t off on one of the things the last speaker said in easements and no right of access private parcels people have been using for many, many years and again, no rights i'm aware have to share i want to raise the idea of demolition of the church as it works the categorical exemption on this project and fine any historical or cultural resources and say the 12457k with regards to the

ceqa it addresses the shadow issue while these properties can potentially cast shadows on rec and park property the height limit was less than the church no additional shadow cast the off-street parking rays i think is a mention each did you homes will have off-street parking and parking available on raymond and leeland not problematic to do that the discussion about - the general plan i think is broadly overreaching with regard to the open space that the dr requester cited on the papers area here today they don't apply to the paralyze didn't mean those parcels become burdens that

maintenance and preservation of the open space those are applied to mclaren park and any future acquisitions by mclaren park and i think i want to end with an acquisitions the aide will have to budget the money we know many of us know lots of improvements lined and no guarantee that will take place in the spirit conducting and improving the opportunities for single-family homes - family-sized projects and established with a neighborhood i'll urge you to consider and i'm going to turn it over to the remainder of any time to mr. james thank you. >> sfgovtv go to the computer. >> very quickly. >> very quickly if you see

this is the parcel right here and a natural development of single-family homes at 25 foot wide lots one thing to not the 5 parcels are for the assessors building many of the parcels are on alone very quickly going to this is our image for the renderings along leeland's it is again, we looked at the single-family profile on both sides of the street. >> your time is up. >> and the commission may have other questions. >> if you have any questions about the lot coverage i can answer that. >> thank you very much. >> public commenters in support of project that is a

discretionary review i have (calling names). >> if your name has been called go ahead. >> good afternoon my name is la lash tarnish an actual member of the committee that as been displaced because of the housing situation we need more affordable housing in san francisco i started my small business owner as a black female and not being able to live in the place she's paying her taxes to keep small business thriving it is disappointing to hear people don't want housing built here and a performance artist and

here trying to keep the cultural and the arts alive in the city not much affordable housing so be that as it may buftsd floors and nobody there tried to keep the church up first place until 9595 project that want to build something to help the housing situation the housing in visitacion valley have garages it is not going to hurt the parking having a scar in the city is not helpful you can help by public transportation the concrete path the residents are worried about not used as much as expressed bus the fact the park is three hundred plus acre they're fighting about one acre for the affordable housing approach that's kind of silly i'm not sure i'm sorry there are other

views that can be seen the gasped will flourish with the new tenant and god knows we need more community in the city some 40 thousand artists due to the lack of housing have been suggested to the fires i had friends in the fire and they lived in this situations they can't find affordable housing no reason why we can't allow a project like that to happen and people to live safe they need to be active and productive citizens in the city the great city and it is more naked everyday because no where to live 4 people living in a one bedroom and 4 thousand for a

bedrooms two bedrooms i make $11,400 and health insurance and everything he can't afford the housing how am i sweet spot to live and the family thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> i'm a current resident of bernal heights approve member of the excelsior i got excited about that probably like more people in the thirty and 40s i have aging parents fortunately the skurnt condo and part-time don't meet any families requirement as this we relocated

my family and every other week we travel 4 hours taking care of them it would mean so much if i can purchase a home where i work and teaching and part of 24 community and my family has always been something like that would say great and mclaren park is a place we hang out with any dogs we have a lot of great times it is a fantastic area i walk around the neighborhood i seen the community parts of leeland's it is fantastic always someone in there it won't stop more people will contribute to it aside i think more housing in the city is great we have a lot of apartments and condo we don't have a lot of houses to meet the families need a lot harder than

that i thought more developments will mean better things for me and my family. >> thank you. any additional speakers in support of discretionary review? >> seeing none, the dr requester you have two minutes. >> in terms of the affordable housing supposedly building they will be luxury homes next door is valued at $800 built in the 50 no one in visitacion valley can afford to live next door those are not affordable housing there is a bottom line negative impact to the mclaren park no

way it doesn't matter thirty or 40 feet there will be shadows there are views that will be destroyed there's no views like this in visitacion valley that are assessable by foot i am stunned that the eir came up with there being no impacts on this you know our neighborhood so i i don't know - i just feel frustrated because over and over our neighborhood is burdened with extraordinary amount of housing and we welcome that we fought for it hits the want a little bit of land and by the way, when we started to fight for schlage willie brown, jr. said you can't take that land it is private we were not going to give up and i'm not saying interest should be eminent

domain but this project shouldn't happen it is the wrong place and to build luxury homes on a pathway where children in sunnyvale walk everyday twice a day is obscene and i can't say anymore. >> thank you. >> project sponsor you have 2 minutes to rebutton>> i. lien dick again those are previously owned the church voluntarily sold it no information that was in line for acquisitions by the city billed rh1 and not open space the project is code compliant ample generated space

and code compliant providing i think someone mentioned open space is owned and it does the fact that is adjacent to mclaren park shouldn't mean 2 be burdened with other requirement other use that happen 2509 be the general plan but the governor for the golden gate park those homes are in demand i understand they're for sale and large homes but the idea again don't get opportunities in the city family-sized homes or supergreen generational families can live a tremendous benefit by the approximate it to mclaren park with the proximity to school and shopping those are the kind of housing to balance out that portion the housing sector we don't do as well we

are looking to build denser more affordable housing but there are people again that will jump at the chance to live in the neighborhood and stay in the city and raise their kids to take care of her parents i urge you to look at it from the inside out from oppose ways the dr requesters first and foremost this is a private parcel that is adjacent to mclaren park we have no intention the disadvantaging mclaren park that's what is before you i urge you to deny the dr requester. >> this portion of the hearings public hearings is closed commissioners. >> commissioner moore. >> i have a question for staff in july we heard a project on

bernal heights boulevard and for hammond i think is the proper pronunciation and there was a parcel there was an idea of multiple parcels actually 5 parcels succumbing together i'm concurring how it started with an independent notice of permit building applications each project was presented in the context of those 5 new buildings creating a new context and each building in it's application you may remember the picture i printed it outburst each of those applications 10 spoke about the new buildings in the context of the other new buildings because there was neighborhood opposition for similar reasons slightly different any question for staff is why it is this project coming

down without addressing the surrounding including the new contact parcel as buildings have to harmonize with each other i'm not questioning the design but the process of submittal i believe 5 new homes that don't come forward as an example u direct your attention d's it was more difficult to see how much attention we spent open this project and ultimately clearly helped us to understand it what an approval project but easy try not to have the context of what happened to be justified. >> commissioner moore are you asking why each the

single-family units were submitted as it's only building permit application or i'm not familiar. >> i'm asking why they went together to start to talk with each other in the application again designed into a context farmed as a package of 5 individual applications lying on top of each in which. >> they were submitted as its own application to the 5 permit applications by reviewed holistic with the residential design team reviewed and staff reviewed it they were and the environmental very were reviewed in terms of context and design and environmental. >> so if that's the case why not that particular aspect of the project not coming into this commission to approve that there the same review criteria that

the residential design guidelines and residential design team looked at the project to appreciate this project i will have to see it in context i'm saying that because in the previous case this commission had to push this back three or four times to be submitted to deal with several eirs there were three or four eirs and we want to do justice from both ended and in the end we supported this project that was properly documented and properly understand the reason the applicant fully responded to the drs i'm saying and asking you feel this particular opportunities is not given to me in the way the project is submitted from the other one i'm asking is there a reason why.

>> i thought that the issue had been the subdivisions subdivisions you're asking why not a larger context shown sorry. >> that's; correct i'm for example, concerned in 2, 3, 4 participate project the most westerly parcel are taking on a lot configuration if all the lots are regular listed i'll you don't feel kick out to a broader shape i believe further interferes with the concerns with the easy package for people who may want walk along the west side and connect to the park and other spaces beyond i feel the context is for the as clear or

the challenge to be asked i'm not saying i'm trying to understand and be sensitive to what this project is trying to do and where i feel didn't give me quite enough to fully understand it if you have the plans i don't know. >> i can hand this around to the majority of commissioners were here ultimately we all approved that project with the board to count it for what the neighbors railroad asking for you probably remembeprobably re >> commissioner hillis. >> no thanks i appreciate the work of the visitacion valley alliance over

the years with the executive park they've been a great community to work with in promoting actually additional housing but i do think i may disagree with them a little bit here that's a good site for housing i get it not with the impacts there or it is a sensitive site adjacent to the park but their privately held parcels i think we've- to maybe commissioner moore's point i'm not sure i get it but we are in a situation all-or-nothing the dr requesters are not saying you know let's do something with the westernmost house or figuring out how this works all-or-nothing we don't want a project here but or we want a

project we've given the design a little bit of a short trip in the process to me that is actually, the most important part of this how it fits in this is actually a great site to build housing and the fact that is privately owned adjacent to the park and maybe we can ask mr. g to give us a quick overview of the site as we sit here we if get that and commissioner moore talked about the responses to the dr requester we didn't get that the boards understand. >> i'll probably need the overhead projector. >> if we can get this - >> very quickly we do have 5 parcels here they are the 2 you

see here. >> will you reduce that so i can see the whole thing. >> the button has a zoom on top. >> this actually, the architects very quicken what happens is there are as 25 foot frontage lot this is 18.75 feet in a trapezoid we're there is about 66 feet deep and this is very much 72 feet from here to the property line on this what is interesting the natural lot pattern that was never emerged and a large wedge we put 24 house here interesting to not if you be take into account this site this portion of the site is uphill from the leeland and

raymond street location and if you look at it quickly the survey it is hard to see this is leeland up the street and there is raymond here and up here is visitacion valley so what happens is at the curve heights this visitacion valley avenue road is about one feet turn around the curve height and 42 on leeland a steep topography that goes away from the site as you leave the triangle shape property line it is important to note the shadow impact but said there is a large retaining wall we have to have and the site slopes up ward away from the decoration from the of any questions. >> can you show the

evaluations. >> the one facing visitation the raymond street i have those. >> those how you approach those design of those forms. >> sure. >> is that i think what i'm missing a little bit is i think a great opportunity in the buildings to me they look a little bit like they could be anywhere in the city again, we don't see an opportunity to build single-family homes i think is good in this case in this neighborhood not a lot of projects happening but the design that is responsive and maybe you can you talk a little bit about. >> what is interesting to not the context on leeland's are single-family homes from different eras as you can see this is distorted the adjacent building are here and two stories some are single and have

stucco and some have wood siding and across the street this is yes, ma'am lasts the front of building and setback the story with the staff it is important we minimize the profile honor this line this roof line that goes across the buildings on the street there was a lot of modulation and supervises along leeland's to it will be cement plasterwork with siding and then in these they'll have the 10 foot garage doors. >> to you have any renderings from half the buildings the ones looking down how about those

front ones. >> i think we didn't have the renderings dropped in just a quick plan. >> right. >> commissioner melgar. >> so i also like commissioner moore having a hard time looking t at it in the context if you can go back to the map i have a question because looking at to the dr requesters running toledo threading and the comments was that the kids in visitacion valley middle school will no longer have access from visitation avenue from leeland avenue or visitation avenue where the community garden is and raymond avenue; right? i couldn't see from your map if you can put it up again does the

lot line go all the way. >> this is the lot line right here and okay. where it visitation avenue. >> visitation avenue is up way up in the areaway over here up much higher. >> can you put it slide it down a little bit. >> we're probably looking at you the lot line didn't end ton raymond avenue? this lot line here? the cul-de-sack of raymond you've seen in the photograph and the open space area public right-of-way that faster going to the street so if i can show you this myself >> if i may commissioner. >> i'm very confused. >> i think the point that both of the raymond and leeland dead

end into the park you can walk into the park i think a path cross a private area across the two. >> you see the dead end here's the 3 buildings and so this is visitation avenue so there is still space is between the buildings and visitation avenue and an established trail as you can see that follows visitation avenue from raymond that allows you to the community garners and the playground area so even when some people are assigned it the children have used this through the church not like visitation avenue is a property site as you can see an area of open space into the blue buildings and visitation avenue valencia right there so there is not like a lot of traffic up against the

building a wide open area the community gardens here and there's a space open area between the site. >> that's okay. what you're saying that path will aluminum. >> yeah. >> all the way down to the community gardens so what he was talking about this a property and not being o blirthd to provide of right away through the property itself; correct? >> correct.; correct if you see this angle this is the property line and we're not very much far west of where you see the blue buildings the property line an incredible open space buffer between visitation avenue and the project site. >> i have one more question going on to what commissioner

hillis was talking about it looks like the last building on the trapezoid lot you have like a side yard there because you were saying that the property line actively extend beyond that i'm wondering what your plans are for that. >> this also the rear yard and the landscaped and will be landscaped and are you putting a fence there. >> we can a discussion with what the staff thinks i don't think we want to put a typical redwood but not intrusive against the open space we've provided protection to the property another discussion. >> i - and if skids have been going through there for decades

and decades no, i. wondering if there are design things you can do to address that. >> that's an item we can discuss. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much. >> i think that my comments for the natural projects and design will follow commissioner melgar sort of saying the same comments on context to me the biggest issue is that i see there is no, this is a private property but still have a common issue; right? well tread pathways here and away with the property that is absolutely used by people in the neighborhood this is a way in terms of if we ever talk about the neighborhoods in this context any way to preserve some of that

or accommodate that's what i love us to focus the discussion in that a good site for housing and a continuation of this same block avenue or street project was very, very similar if that it was a continuation of the hill of a street all single-family homes and putting more homes at the end of the street and in this case we don't have to do that there is a road where it goes where it needed to if you could i'd like to follow-up with commissioner melgar's line of questioning if we could go back can you point out where it that pathway or maybe the dr requester that the people are traditional using now and then let's say with the

impact is there. >> so. >> i'm going to ask the dr requesters and have you respond i think - >> can i ask commissioner johnson a question is the packet on view number one looking west towards the church. >> i don't know. >> i'm confused that's why i'm asking the question. >> i thought that was this pathways. >> that's why i'm asking the question; right? there's a pathway but also the blue is where even though church is and . >> that's the footprint of the garage. >> right now that's where the church is. >> i've gone out there and measured my case and got it wrong one and 1 feet cross the

frontage on raymond that takes that within 15 feet that corner. >> that's half that is outside where your finger is now. >> the path from the middle school down here through here and then. >> that's what i thought. >> and another path of concrete path here so that's these have been in use. >> that's what i thought. >> this is really the site at the corner. >> okay - >> can i finish one sentence. >> raymond after a circle here with dpw built only about where here's raymond here's visitation avenue there is only 10 feet between the two and about 10 feet up and two trees a - they'll collapse a possibility it they'll collapse i don't know

how a path come down here deal with that need to be shored up and past here. >> thank you, thank you i want to focus. >> not as much spates as shown. >> okay. thank you. >> need this still. >> no got it that would be helpful one for the an issue in the zoned open space right now a path in the park mclaren park and right in the impact there is that the new homes will just bring new developments closer to the edge of that packet right now is sort of open field and a church and houses and then there is a concrete pathway on the side of the church that people are using this will be imposed number one private property and number two the way the houses are

situations a acquire amount of move forward open space between so no longer be that pathways okay. so - >> that's helpful this project works i mean, i have similar commentaries to the project yes that would be helpful if rec and park will bid and make it a continuation of mclaren park yes, but they have a long list of properties for acquisitions they're trying to work through and the materials we're provided made it clear they didn't prioritize this lot that maybe a statement but without that we don't have the you know really the authority to say they can't

- they have to make an open space i consider going into the hearing, talking about essentially would that help to not have 5 lots but maybe 4 you know would that be helpful to not have one or more of the homes planned for this area but i also think this is not necessarily getting to the concerns of the community so it really is an all-or-nothing proposition is that the position we're placed in i feel like at this time i'm supportive of having it there rather than not i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say. >> ii echo back they wanted to parcel to be used as 100 percent

affordable i'll say you need $58 million and step up and say it is not ours to acquire i know we don't have that here the economy for the parks recommended for those who want to put it on the list for fire rec and park didn't put it on the list no funding sources looking forward so i see where commissioner johnson said that so without overseeing two things it is hard to say we should be doing anything each one what we should allow the project i had a question from staffs point of view the ecology the habitat letter if the successor michael ph.d given this potential

species. >> when the environmental determination was made the understanding no rare species or endangered species this laser came in last week and forwarded to the environmental planning division owe i've not heard from them. >> let's suspected this belief and say hey a rare plant in the park on the parcel what happens then we were to find out. >> the approval action at the hearing will open up the time and frame to appeal the ceqa determination which is a more appropriate platform to get into the studies and details of those species. >> for the supervisors. >> correct. >> i think this is a logical

thing to pursue and mclaren park is a large park we're talking about they take out a good portion like the church and the uphill not like it as blank like on fulsome blank lots you have you know already sitting there on the other side of the street know i wish i could find something to help out the neighbors i'm struggling with that action what that should look like where we are with this. >> commissioner moore. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. >> i think a long time ago we talked about the muralisting of leeland with important work by the planning department we solve those end parcels will be logic to those streets this is not a

problem that the documentation it include in the package for example, not showing the subdivisions of the parcel at large with that it is harder to judge i believe a weak point of what is in front of us there's no a site plan landscape plan that deals with the future of the path assuming the 5 homes are important there's nothing wrong with the design but how it is presented to us there will be a landscaped one will delineate how the buildings themselves meet the open space what did does a garden and elevation looking into the park look like it there go something missing i feel that is somewhat difficult for us because we're not approving one building but

and that's not a criticism but maybe a couple of drawings missing but a little bit flat in the this application not in the discredit of building being approvable but how 5 buildings in a neighborhood used to this as open space edge with the transition to the park who children and, etc. move to the neighborhood and all of a sudden we're having homes coming in that doesn't create the dialogue with the existing situation that's what is missing i'm questioning myself how to deal with that i can support the project but really like to see it better rendered and a better plan that addresses this new 5

building in the larger neighborhood in the transition of parks. >> commissioner melgar. >> so i also think that it is appropriate to have housing on a lot like this i'm not sure that i'll feel uncomfortable with the issues that have been raised so i am wondering if you know coming off the hours of testimony on sharp park and question get into trouble if we don't do the right thing i'm wondering would we be better off waiting if we get feedback from the environmental division on that issue but i'm interested in seeing the design in particular how the end buildings the two will be trapezoid lots relate to

that path and fences are we having retaining walls or that impacts from r5u78d avenue down to the garden i'm not sure i asking can understand the impact so i think maybe i said support a motion to continue it. >> is that a motion. >> i make a motion to continue. >> i second that. >> secretary owen. >> i'm recommending february 2nd three weeks. >> just a ask to staff is that enough time are. >> what i heard you say some reverend in the environmental plan, and, secondly, for commissioner moore's comments and your comments overall site plan showing the plan and the

fences and the facades of the building and - >> good that's what i heard it is steep. >> i'll ask the project sponsor is three weeks time enough. >> and 3-d renderings from different angles. >> so jonas is there i'm concerned that three weeks is enough we need to get our packets 3 days in advance. >> i need to clarify the request a more comprehensive plan site showing some of the barriers or the property line how that design looks from the park okay. and second probably maybe a rendering from the side property conditions on the west side on the traffic light angle how the facades meet the

conditions; right? and what is the proposed 8. >> we're now looking at - >> the 16th of february. >> we'll need to get the drawings within week before that. >> so that - well say 10 days before that we'll need drawings from you by the 6. >> the renderings take more time we have to coordinate with the scomplarp. >> march second is fine. >> sxhiflz i'm torn on this one i think you've been responding to some of the concerns in the neighborhood? the build or don't kind of open space. >> but i agree with some of the commenters i think that said we ignored but didn't pay

attention in the materials to the design i feel the same way when you read through the material i don't get a great sense how this interacts with that space in leeland so that's cuisine the nexus i'm supportive of the housing on the site in terms of the scale but but thoughts into you know this is not a motion and a second vacant lot but something unique to the parcel especially the most westerly ones and get a sense of how they respond to that contact. >> we apologize our drawing documents didn't show that but supplemental in the request. >> is that the intent. >> i'm sorry. >> to be clear what.

>> the second. >> just to be clear that the planners are here and outlook with that. >> thank you. i think we understand and you'll contact the environmental planning thank you. >> any other commissioners before we call the vote no please call the question. >> commissioners on that motion with the direction commissioner hillis. >> commissioner johnson. >> no commissioner koppel. >> no commissioner melgar. >> commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards. >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes that motion passes 4 to 2 with commissioner moore and commissioner koppel that is placing us on item 10

van ness street a discretionary review. >> good afternoon scombhifks jonathan the item before you a request for discretionary review for the building permit application associated with the property project on van ness street which is located in the nct zones and 50 height and bulk it will demolish a one story one

thousand plus autopsy d.b.a. as oil changer and have a gross square feet mixed use building that includes two retail use and at the ground story and 28 units the proposed building will include approximately 16 foot accelerator penthouse above the roof and includes four below-market-rate housing onsite for the reason the packet didn't include the version of the plans i'm submitting those for your review additionally, a supplemental packet ways sent by the dr requester on january 6th forwarded troon and aim putting the hard copies for your review since january 5th the planning department has not received

additional public comment the dr requesters have expressed a number of issues with the proposed project with shadowing and privacy and impacts think light and air and consist of the characterization of the neighborhood and traffic impacts among others that are identified in the dr application since the property project is located in an mc-3 innovate subject to the guidelines following 5 discretionary review the rdt reviewed the project and the department provided a notice and the project applicant has revised those in light of the items and reflected the terms the project minimize the stair

penthouse proposed above roof the department finds it complies with the massing and form and scale is appropriate given the height and bulk limits the proposed project is consistent with the commercial character of the street finally the promotion project a fully code compliant not seeking entitlements from the planning in conform with the market octavia area plan as it appears no exceptional or extraordinary circumstances the department finds the proposal is consistent with the planning code and recommendations that the commission not take discretionary review and approve the project as revised that concludes my presentation. i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. >> from the dr requester. >> dr requesters you'll have 5

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proposed at one 98 van ness across the street and we're blow the building near the beer garden and it is as big as it looks if you look at the elevations not 50 feet or 55 feet to accommodate the commercial parts of it it actually starts counting 5 feet maybe above the ground and the part on top not including the slaerlt penthouse it is 10 feet higher than you expect to see in the city that that shadows during the peak hours of operation not profitable in the winter it is foggy in the first

quarter of year that has to rely on strong sales in the summer and what we tried to do in order to analyze what that project will really mean the property development we engaged an expert who is here will respond to questions to analyze the different alternatives we're not opposed to develop we like housing in fact, we ourselves are 18 tenants in affordable housing directly above this so we have no problem in them building and building housing we encourage that and like it it what we try to find a compromise a compromise that protects us even though that had impact us but allows them to do what we do

but not everything the problem we face is two you know we have a qualify active and a quantitative we have to have a beer garden otherwise without the beer garden we'll lose that we have a quantitative problem we run the numbers and have the differences on good weather and bad weather days and want to give more than thirty percent and maybe 44 percent according to the recent numbers what did we do we tried to analyze the shadow patterns depending on. >> sir, your time is up. >> you'll have a two minute rebuttal. >> opening up for public comment for those in supports.

>> there are two dr requesters actually. >> our second dr requester you have 5 minutes. >> good evening honorable commissioners wanting richards i'm an attorney i represent any parents ♪ matter their the property owners we've been in the spirit of commission prerogative engaging in negotiation with the developers as well the architect ♪ matter and mr. salvo has been cc on this communication i have a question this is not my main area of legal practice mr. desafely was copied on - i

don't know where the commissioners have received the drawings that was the proposal we will write a resolution if this is not subject to submission i want a continuance of this matter we can't possibly go forward what is a amicable resolution to my family's dr request i'm presenting them without those drawings being before you today >> they were not forwarded to the commission. >> in regards to the planter? >> okay. >> would they normally be. >> what. >> the day before they needed to be; right?

>> they can only be forwarded electronically or speed limit today as hard deposits. >> from the planning department received them yesterday. >> i don't know. >> the project sponsor may have them and it looks like he does so he'll be presenting the hard copies today this afternoon is fine. >> so if he can moderate with a resolution today, the dr as far as i'm concerned, and my reputation will be withdrawn to the extent that those drawings are not to be submitted and not to be finalized as the architects submission to the board we will move forward with the dr and objecting to this i

had 3 and a half minutes and i recommend no. you can't reserve our time i recommend you submit our concerns overseeing plans have not been seen by the planning commission so i'd like go forward with our presentation as planned. >> again my first request a continuance i believe an amicable is the right way to go, however, not to move forward then thank you. >> so i wc,e c i was this is

of oriented and out of the holidays we should have gained footing on the negotiation but at last we were not we are seeking to find some grounds for a.m. capable resolutions if we can't find the grounds i think any eir will be appropriate in this case because there is magnificent back filing and massive excavation and as shown there is no security against the force of gravity that is actually above the building site this is proposed for excavation and development

we have worked with a surveyor at a considerable expense almost $10,000 to establish the property from the proposal that is being forwarded by the earth and the developer is not september and not filed as conclusive this before significant concerns that the windows are actually obstructed by the railings of the property adjacent building which is completely out of step with city policy and city law so this is a consideration above and beyond the concern about excavation of the property both concerns raise considerable reason for an eir under ceqa pursuant to california law

the excavation concern is a greater moment under ceqa now a tension i don't want to overlook this is as we've heard already a matter where our building one 18 de bois is residential are the proposed building is commercial there for exempt from otherwise attend a residential permit application it is in actuality residential i think that the developers are laughing in the background that is great but just because your property only has commercial at the base and most of condominium that raise concerns about what it means for the way and the

profile of this building if 2, 3, 4 neighborhood when it is directly adjacent to residential properties thank you for your time. >> just a point of clarification our property is the property going up the hill. >> thank you, president richard. >> opening up for public comment for those that support the dr requesters and oppose the project as is (calling names). >> good evening my name is dan mitchel first time in front of of the commission in been a resident since 1980 and seen a lot of changes some good and some not so good i decided to come down here i've been going

to these guys for decades part of community a social part of mission a social part of san francisco and over the years i've come to realize not just san francisco but part of california that is part of u.s. and part of whole world i've been through the beer garden in the sun enjoying a beer or two and met people from all he over the world people come here for fisherman's wharf or some other designation this is designation it is part of san francisco as i look at the changes in the city i wonder what you have to deal with that everyday i guess part of planning commission job what project goes forward and how to keep the city the same to move forward one way to do that is to deep the things that are uniquely san

franciscan and in this case i'll say that is gift and the only reason we're talking about 24 business half of the appeal of that business been around for 40 years the community can get together and sit in the sun and talk to friends and meet coworkers and learn about the world and sing the praise of the city if you go out to a bar in san francisco you'll see their automobile changing 20 or thirty flat screens i've not seen before so to have something unique to the city and classic and social not trying to be a sports bar we should consider how that building will effect the people that go there and personally as a customer sitting out in the sun on an occasional

days is a big plus and please get that consideration thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi ladies and gentlemen, of the board i'm charles i'm a bartender i moved to san francisco on may 13, 2001, to make a life in the city the dream i moved into the residential hotel and within a few weeks ago got work in the station and had pocket money i took on two shifts when the events on 2001 all my work dried-up and afraid i'd have to move back to new york city but i was able to work full-time as a cook and allowed me to meet the

friends i have now and -- excuse-me. >> shared tables with stagehands and from the guardian and artist and from that spring ideas got inspired by the film festival and created a media show that brought together artists and sculptors and the plans for the 3 bands i quite the kitchen and returned i was invited as a bartender and now bernaartendinr 13 years - those folks still sitting at the tables on sunday afternoon and sitting there creating their future endeavors

my coworkers and we all need to make a living in the city we try to pursue our own goals and musicians or artists or you really don't care insofar as we see the sun shining we bartender have a good day and right now it is not all that sunny but when the springtime comes it's a good time we get to rolling and we everything that gift the backyard is our bread and butter i understand the vendors want to maximize we need did housing but protect this sports bar a major factor of what makes it the great bar it is thank you for

your time. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> my name isal john i'm a third generation san franciscan and the small business owner on market and franklin my concerns are randy this company it is clearly going to take away a magnificent amount of their livelihood to do this none will sit in a dark beer garden in san francisco we're not the place 72 back there when the shadows come in the late 60s if you haven't been there is this lovely experience and more and more unique not that many places to sit out in a public area under the sun and talk to people if all over the world more and more

unique everyday unfortunately, they seem to be the late last of the breed if a breeder business all of a sudden moved into next door and i have a decade left on any lease and want their business to not pass mine that will impact me and make might livelihood not feasible i'll compare to that their unique and the name of the bar and the spirit in our current times changing the nature the city into free spifrtd and open to whoever has the deepest pockets to do what they want. >> push us around and especially us who care deeply about the city thank you. >> thank you.

>> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon again or good evening commissioners i'm speaking to i on behalf of the cultural network we understand the dr we will also file the third c r i want to talk about other issues we have concerns about that project with and their has to do with with the loss of another auto shop i think you told the story not too long having to take your car to service because auto shops were leaving neighborhoods at high speed we've been looking at an autopsy related shop being replaced by housing and then retail and retail pays 1250 an hour and

the auto pay thirty or $40 an hour this is the gentrification problems while the shops are upscale the working-class is going down and down we're concerned about that. >> and this didn't off a replacement we want to see the respect the only i don't know how we'll do that having environmental impact commissioner vice president richards having to drive somewhere to get his car fixed i condominium any groceries have to expensive he drive across town so those are two honest improvement from our perspective and this looks like on the map virtuosa minimal affordable

housing project we're disappointed to see these kovrmd we're meeting with the developers and have a meeting tomorrow that looks positive we consider it makes a significant improvement in terms of what we're doing to keep the working-class this is not kufrnt one of the projects with a minimal offer that had displacement with the upscale residents we'd we'd to see a significant number on the affordable housing so for timelipid and hope you'll find a way to consider those points even if they're not part of central drs. >> thank you. any other public commenters in support of

project. >> speak into the microphone and it is to say it is landmark is underestimated there is no other place from any from all walks of life the only place you grab 20 people and have a birthday party my second point is just knowing having more retail use on the bottom is a place to make it more valuable i was in a lot of places that have storefronts they leave empty for years and years and like richard said earlier they leave it empty knowing that will sit there and

making that that extra bit - you know cost a shadow is unnecessary so thank you. >> thank you very much any other speakers in opposition to the - in support of dr. >> one more please. no more. >> anyone else okay project sponsor you have 10 minutes. >> good evening, commissioners i'm from martel on behalf of the project team for one 98 van ness and joined by our shadow expert and architect i'll be brief i want to take a dr response to be frank one of the most interesting argument for the discretionary review for the requirement an increase no shadow a documents of the loss

of business and closure i think the papers said provided in neither dr papers take off the two stories and then we'll be mitigated as i've provided the statutes calls out a high standard for a decision making to reduce the density for the housing project and there precisely in situations like this this it seems to me a string of information or string of cause and effect we don't know about but taking this guy's word on good faith that increased shadows will have an effect we want to point out can i have the overhead? some of their shadows is

self-imposed you see the trees. >> - >> the trees on van ness vermont and inside the project site heavy foliage across the street into the project on van ness you can see the large billiards and blocking the sunlight and provided on sunnyvale and this is an example there are sunny days the other point in terms of the prohibition against taking they're preferred alternative we saw those tables is other bars survived in san francisco you know it is a fact of life sometimes, we have outside brunch and the marina - it

seems they've been here for so long and the changes we were well aware the changes on the market octavia plan that was incredibly if not highly likely there will be a project built across the street all of van ness street was in the market octavia plan for the 5 foot height with the business building hard if a breeder dr appreciative that requires extraordinary circumstances other than the shadow studies is how do you find extraordinary circumstances if only their posture or how bad did business will be and why closures is the natural okay. we have many

eating places that survive why is this different from shadow when you provide umbrellas and have the existing conditions that are no longer under our control and i'm going to turn it over to our shadow expert mr. phillips that will explain his critique of the shadow analysis and the best way to view the shadow situation thank you. >> good evening good afternoon commissioner and commissioner vice president richards i'll adam from the design i was the preparer of the section ceqa shadow study that was prepared for the project north that analysis didn't include private open spaces as much as the gifts i was retained by the property owner or project sponsor with a focus on the

shading in fact, of the proposed project as the design is on the open space my analysis generally follows the same portfolios as the analysis for the city looking at the shading between one hour after sunrise to one hour over the sun goes down i've further shortened 2 as 9:00 a.m. that's not relevant data in the says similar to the studies i used the 3-d model of the project, the gift area and all the surrounding buildings and overall and freeway to get a comprehensive view of the shading conditions in the area and included all the trees that are currently in place what i found is that the current shading conditions is a shadow

load of 53 percent means 53 square feet hours of shadow versus the number of hours that the sunlight can fall in the park and applied the same standards to the generation and found the new shadow will equal 2 percent a 2 percent above a 53 shadow load for the park and additionally the new shadows will occur only after 5:00 p.m. in the summertime and in the spring and fall only new shadows after 3:00 p.m. no new impact a little bit of shadow will fall during the winter months the biggest impact will happen around april 16th and on that date the shadow load will be 54

percent compared to the other shadow on that day the other thing i of the brought on to do an analysis or the peer review by the dr requester in my conclusion were generally that what was depict in the shadow study didn't match the solar angles for the shading at the time by example - as you can see the solar at 5:00 p.m. 621 the database shows a 39 point angle that is a profile not reaching the guise park the shadow from the project will

reach halfway into the place this is consistent and my opinion this shading as shown by the study were greatly combaethd from the shadow if it is currently designed a few other factors the model that was used including one of the largest trees that is intervening within the new project and open space as well as the fact to a third of the quarter from the cover by canopies that is depicted as on one interesting thing of not and this is in this diagram where all the shading impacts of the various proposals from the dr requester were shown this line here was indicated as a line of

the project shading at 5:00 p.m. on august 21st and these other lines all indicated the various setback versions according to the solar angles that are used by the city to determine this red line is where the actual shadow from the project as currently designed the land at any time so as you can see the shadows as shown before i this report don't conform to the standard shadowing goals that are used for a certain day and time i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> if there is any followup. >> thank you. >> hi david hopefully, he, do this in the last 39 seconds. >> this is the plan of what we

were talking about for the planters for mr. cruise and how to zoom if with that thing. >> the - >> baefks his issue some windows that face our property this property is along here and if i look at the drawings a window here, here and here if you don't mind i'll take an extra couple of seconds we lowered this planter and this planter here and we had to add two new planters to make up for the stormwater retention we can't react the puc requires a concern

amount of stormwater we spoke with mr. cruz that was tuesday i sent 24 out and in conversations that satisfied his concern and as he was satisfied the other thing he's concerned about potential underpinning and shoring against his property he completely understand that and wanted to assure him and everybody on the close session that is nothing new from mire experience we've done a lot of projects and saviors documents level any walls if necessary cracks or things like that that can be dealt with thank you. >> thank you opening up for public comment for those in support of this project against the dr requesters

(calling names). >> got it and (calling names) if your name has been called feel free. >> hi names a sonya i go to this business sometimes, i think that building housing is more important than drinking beer although i don't know that drinking beer is threatened by the housing at all i think we'll at all gotten drunk in a number of places even though test of fires against the housing sort of had a approach he thought they they testified it is an

interesting place that's true and 4 or 2 percent sunshine will destroy that as unique and valuable there are not a lot of beer gardens of that size that's exactly why the shadow will not have an impact and having new residents across the street will probably increase their business it is - i'm not sure exactly how many units we'll lose maybe 12 units i think that if we were looking at the idea of destroying 12 units to add sunshine that would seem obviously like a terrible idea but the effect is really the same they own building shades

shade the beer gasped i don't think anyone in the building will be convinced that's a good idea to move out and try to find housing somewhere else please vote for housing thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> hi laura clark and i've been to there mostly at night the shadows are really big i enjoy drinking and will guarantee to continue to go to the bar at night when the shadows will be thick i think that more people is good for business i also then it is not actually this commissions job to pick and choose when www.are successful and to put that at a housing

commission we're in a housing crisis yes, we're losing auto shops and for a city to become a transit city we'll have vision zero and walkable communities we'll have increased retail that's going to be what we'll see for the next few years that's a good thing i think that housing is definitely more important than all services i'll all for having retail become better paying jobs let's raise the minimum wage there is a great idea we're transitioning from an economy that was based on service jobs that were higher paying and we'll have to figure out how to energy workers to make a good living that's not what that project is about it is

about housing we need more of it and the beer will be okay thanks. >> next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm stephen i live in the mission i work downtown i moved here in february from i'm a frairl fairly new resident to the city when i moved here it took me 4 months to find a place to live i ended up findings a place with a friend of mine i paid 2000 barely bigger my queen side bed i'm thirty years old i came to the city for a job and love the city by that is changing and we need to respond to in change we can respond to the incredible growth and the number of people

that live here and want to live here and $2,000 a month to share a place is isn't it true insanity i'm - i'm new to this this is my first time to show up but i'm surprised this is unclear that the request from the business to remove 14 unit and two below-market-rate housing as a result of taking off two floor is illegal according to the housing affordability act that is absurd we are talking about that it is clearly illegal in addition they're a give him i've been to that place a number of times i started in 2012 and

gone at day and night i sit under the umbrella the light is never an issue and two percent less than over the years is not going to effect they're busy and moreover i don't believe that gifts has the right to challenge that according to the rules of san francisco i'm not sure what the regulations is called but the shadow review only applies to public parks not businesses so this an, an overreach i think they've over reaching by challenging the number the shadows that will curae property vote for the housing and vote for this as it stand. >> thanks. >> next speaker, please. >> hi i'm going to read from

this i'm not a public speaker i'm rick a 5 year resident of san francisco i'm also a frequent patron i love this place when i heard about this i decided to come down it goes without saying we're in the middle of a housing crisis all the measures lick rent control to protect the vulnerable neighbors the only thing that works over time is build more housing the price in the market they're the kind of people that want to live in san francisco we need housing and we need houses now it is unconscious we allow special interests and people trying to maximize their property value the shadow concerns i'm reiterating here are clearly overblown the

alternatives given by the construction you know are not you know - not good as the previous speaker talked about their reduced the millennium of hours and the below-market-rate housing that hitter the vulnerable citizens so i strongly urge to to reject this and allow the project to move forward and provide the housing thanks. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm jeff i live two blocks away from gifts i'm a patron and have been i've been there and sat underneath the umbrellas on a sunny afternoon we are desperately in need of housing i have friends that have left the city not afford to

raise their families as a neighbor and teacher it is small in the face of the 28 dwelling units in total and the instruction ruks /* reduction i and my friends will continue to go to give oguist if we. >> i like gift when i went i wished they didn't have the umbrellas they have umbrellas and seems like the people that were there were cool there so there's a little bit more concern about the shadows and the business go resilient and i'm confident it will continue

to thrive and also drawing your attention i think this project falls under the housing affordability act and illegal to agree to improve a project with less units than this one so keep in mind and yeah, we definitely desperately need housing so deny this. >> thank you, thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good evening. i'm aaron i've been going to drink at gifts for seven years one of the my favorite spots indeed, one of the only bars in san francisco this as my beer on tap and housing shortage not having the

patio will cause anyone to patronize gifts i noticed in the shadow study the additional shadow seems to be concentrated in the area where the bikes are and not where people enjoy the sun on a sunny day i encourage you to have the additional housing thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi i'm dana soma resident the first time in the planning commission i'll keep my comments 12rur7 short i of the there last night and wanted to respond to one thing that one of the people on the other side of the issue

said they talked about keeping san francisco open and welcoming we have to support the building of lots of more housing and especially below-market rate so i urge you to condition the building at 249 current height. >> any other speeches in support of project and in support of dr. >> good afternoon san francisco resident for well over 20 years i'm here to speak to support of the project to be approved the property i'm sorry to approve the proposal i believe all of us agree that housing is needed in every district in san francisco if you're more housing we'll be satisfactory it is san francisco

strishth zoning and regulations are in place and once the developer understand and respects them shouldn't have personal agenda while everyone has a right to in their opinion and keep in mind people have the right to invest money and time the business owner plays by the rules and move forward a step forward for more housing inventory no reason to hold them back the award of being able to replenish our goal would have it is a negative effect and slowing the amount of property in the city proper the majority of big developers are taking over the land of san francisco building hundreds of units but what about the rest of

the city this project if concerned should be approved in san francisco we don't need for $2.24 hours that had. time stay vacant the smaller development we're discussing to date will add liveable unit i'm sorry liveable unit and brick real families and neighbors to the area we will not only bring additional tax revenue to the city but additional revenue to the neighbors as well most passion or prejudice the money it will provide to san francisco resident additional options so we can live in the neighborhood we desire.

>> thank you for your time all dr requester you have two minutes. >> thank you, commissioners i think first of all, i'd like to move to continue this hearing i see two commissioners are no longer there this is a very, very important decide that needs tobacco made tonight and troubled by the family paid public members that made those detailed statement about information that was not disclosed until tonight hearing and introduce the engineer who actually did the shadow study thank you. >> you mentioned the to percent not true after 3:00 p.m. and 3:30 in the spring and

autumn the shadow will be indicated and all the 2 percent is nonsense we propose different oppositions and not about moving two stories we proposed option moving 10 percent of floor area only 7 percent at a third of top floor the one facing the - only two on the screen a reduction of 2 percent of the total area and two stories is exaggerated and about the trees the trees don't cast the shade in the beer gasped the beer garden garden is sunny they cast a shadow after 3:30 this is our prime time and submitted in the application the sensitivity analysis on the business why we likely to lose 40 percent only 7

percent reduction on the floor area not two stories as they're saying that's all i have to say. >> thank you dr requester two you have two minutes. >> my points stand as stated earlier we've heard from the architect that he would stipulate to submission of the drawing he e-mailed to the gentleman yesterday if those are not accepted as concrete and certain as what is going to be built than i have significant concerns that i judge would like to raise in my last minute and a half first of all, we've not gotten a response for the dr

request equip and e-mail owe understand things railroad submitted to the commission what i understand to be the rules is that things not served on a dr requester should be stricken as a sanction i want to point that out there's been almost no verbal response today equip for mr. stepping outside the box beggars stimulation anything that should go taken as a synonyms to any argument we make and morph less than 3 feet between the windows and the railings of the development as proposed and that railing is considered to a solid part of building with 3 feet under the san francisco law and number 6

finally one of the tenants in the lower unit that would suffer from the closeness of building the proximity is disabled and would effect her quality of life and finally the excavation a service area a likelihood. >> that portion the project is closed i'm sure the project sponsor two minute rebuttal. >> no need to apologize i want to sins the comments just to be clear efforts passed to reach through his father i can't speak to exact times and dates but i know i apologize you feel that didn't happen we believe the effort were made to do so i also

want to clarify i didn't make up the taking off the two stories but in the application not something i'll take lightly the proposal was made and the mr. cruz father said a 3 story by taken down to match the height of a building just to be clear i'm not making that up having the accountability act and the last thing i gave to you in a letter comments were submitted the online articles on the guys claims i'm drink wherever that makes it qualify active but not

- there is a following and as supporters said 24 as important contribution to the housing i urge you to deny that dr request thank you. >> thank you. okay finally this portion the hearing is closed i have one request for mr. desoto considering a mc-3 so the requirement for a rear yard is loss allowed to be on the second floor. >> 22.5 and that's correct and one examine to members of the public every building permit is

subject to the discretionary review by this commission as per the city charter. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you commissioner vice president richards for chair richard for making that examine i'll start with hearing this today and all discretionary permits are discretionary i think there is really great points in the comment before the housing accountability acts we've had discussion the commission before on that state law and it's impact on our decision making powers here and what changes we can make the project so i actually and of the opinion that we are very constrained in our ability like to reduce the number of unit do lots of things that may or may not be okay but be challenging

to make the findings around the public health department with that said without the issues with the state law i'm supportive of this project i think that is in line with other development we've seen in this area i think that it works for this corner which is an martin luther king a higher density corner right here that can sort of take the height there and i think that there maybe design issues we can talk about in the project but i'll say here as commissioners up here tonight, i'm willing to support a project with two go less units we need to start again one of the cases to make tough choices to be able

to continue to build housing here one question that i have for maybe other commissioners and come back around he understand the dr requester number one that is the owners of yifts and fully understand they're proposed alternatives but the second dr requester i'm thoroughly confused no idea from the original packet as well as the information presented today that i guess their might be some sort of change to the plan or compromise sent by e-mail not to us and unfortunately, the dr requester number 2 you spent our time your testament not delineating exactly what you're looking for so i'd like to ask staff if you can come up did you understand what it is that has

been requested by the dr requester number 2 and do you have documents that were sent to you late that might commodity. >> in regards tattoos e-mail yesterday he was c, c ed within the project sponsor they had reached their agreement in terms of the size of planter the e-mail said to forward this to the commission i realize that was good and good information for the commission to have but not forwarded to commission in regards to that planet and in regards to the other items it is in there in your packet in the case report and the dr requests the case report on specific issues i don't know if you want me to touch on. >> yeah. so. >> i think jonathan the

question is related to the relationship between the one story portion the building and the railing with respect to the windows on their property and one question i have are the windows lot line and how much of the windows have blocked. >> that's on the ground floor. >> no on the second floor of the dr requesters property. >> the ground floor of the development? >> there's the one story portion the new development with the roof. >> because two is - okay. >> right. >> so, i mean in the case report they outlined issues of privacy, but not specifically call out the window issue so

this was something i believe that was two parties tndc's does that answer your question not really i'm not clear that disappeared in the original case file - let's ask the project sponsor what changes have you explain that thank you very much. >> yeah. i don't like to be confused. >> dave with sternberg. >> talk both the mike. >> architects this view here this is mr. cruz

property and goes backwards to any finger this is you knew building and the rear yard setback one level above grade and that is the garage that provides the rear terraces for the lowest units and the whole building wraps up around van ness street he has some setbacks and some property line walls there is 3 windows in question one window the further from the property a property line window and he asked early on that we address that window and we lowered the one planter adjacent to that window i can show you the diagram. >> lower it so that will not block that window. >> correct uh-huh. and then mr. cruz wrote the letter and

made specific requests that we lower other planters to relate to two other adjacent windows one is 45 degrees to our lot and the other is parallel to our lot so we lowered another longer piece of planter so those windows even though their a distances away from our building wall will have more light and that was in my understanding mr. cruz made a specific request and we made a specific restriction and unfortunately i'm not sure when his letter came in but we couldn't lower the planters quickly because we are subject to the puc requirement 2 gets into engineering we had to check with the engineer to and add other planters to make sure that

the engineering calculations for stormwater retention oars are called flow through planter meaning they retain water when that rains not huge amount of water into the sewer system it is retained and sits through sifts through the planters i can show you the diagram of the revised you have if you look at drawing - you look at our drawing a two point zero. >> and compare that to this drawing you will see again this window here and this window here we

lowered planters on a second ground of planter here to accommodate to those windows on a letter we received last week and went to the engineer to make sure we could do that that is a property line window and early on we lowered this planter all the planters were 5.6 and now 2 foot tall in order to satisfy the sfpuc question added this planter and added this planter that are 3 feet 6 at all to mitigate the calculations for the stormwater retention okay. thank you it sounds like with the revised planter placement and size that you meet the stormwater retention requirement that works for your

project he dwarth from the dr requester that is an amenable to his concerns. >> that's my understanding yes. >> fantastic thank you very much. >> okay so sounds like to me that's a much easier solution that i don't see any issues making that change to the project i want to focus on our question number one and you know obviously when you open up the project for discretionary review we can talk about you know almost anything in regards to the project so happy to entertain conversation on the pdr retail piece i will reiterate my submission before giving it up to other commissioners there are a few alternatives that will help the concerns that are for like the

beer garden that doesn't involve the unit and i don't think that is important to other ideas let's discuss them i i want to put that out there to make any position on the point. >> commissioner koppel. >> yeah. i had a question for project sponsor on this rear yard setback would the stormwater requirements was the the absolute minimum distances from the dr requester number 2 that you can ask. >> i don't understand the question. >> right now you have 22 feet 6 inches. >> i think that is 26 foot 6. >> is that right? >> oh, that's the rear yard that's 25 percent of the lot. >> okay. so let's say for example, on the dr requester

number one alternative closer to dr requester number two building is not possible. >> well the planning code is fairly straightforward about where they want rear yards and in general i don't think they would like that again, that's my opinion i'm not the planning departme department. >> it's required. >> good. >> thank you. >> great. >> where i'm land on this i get the fact it's a lesbian and i get it it's been around forever and yes or no. >> i'm sorry what. >> sir, you own the building so i'm breathing a sigh of

relief where i'm coming from it get the logic change something will be not having an effect on our business i i get it you gave up the bad weather index that includes rain and fog and storm we're talking about shade not rain and fog we're foot commissioner mar apples to apples and the other one i hate to say it to really get me to be in the trait and explore that more today and three years ago today that is foggy january 12th and few that had a pattern of hay absolutely i can tell you

day by day how the cells will effect our cash that will compel me to say hey, you have a point any were else in the world can be donated that's the reason this is the first time i hope if so i could be convinced to continue the discussion on this other than that as said this is speculative and not something i think that we can find exceptional or extraordinary given the fact we don't know so we'll be up against the legal requirement based on california law to have a finding that we're certain a real effect that will reach the element for the test i get it where our coming from i wish i had more grand last year

data to entertain discussion i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say i feel for you but not there. >> any other commissioners commissioner melgar. >> yeah. so i - this is a legacy business one that i think adds to the neighborhood and you know i'm a little bit as a loss to play with that, i on the issue of having sat in the beer garden other beer gardens around the mission to have it more than anything temperature so when the light goes down and all of a sudden it gets colder and there are ways to deal with that people have sweaters and all sorts of things that adds to the cost of a legacy business so i see that there is an issue i don't know necessarily that will

take out of a business but add to the costs i'm wondering in terms of the housing affordability act it seems like a whole floor is retail use. >> is that ground floor required to be retail in that district. >> for one 45 not identified corridor where retail is required but i'll check the zoning table. >> it is not van ness street at that location is for the required to have retails or one 45 - >> are the