consistently of bomb threats, polk material involving weapons of mass destruction suspicious activities of landmark and other criminal activity with essential terrorist those are provided from sfpd and other law enforcement agencies the private sector and members of the public private sector partners involve local businesses and empower and health care and mass transit technically their familiar and comply with the go for suspicious activity is not recorded as religion profiles they have handled the information from citizens and other law enforcement agencies

and private entities suspicious activity is bomb treats threats to life, threats to property and suspicious photos and critical infrastructure, and suspicious activities as identified by reporting authorities sfpd members j.t. t f does not jaem gave me in protected activities that are against. >> lieutenant what do you draw from d request go the words solely involving constitutional issues where do you draw that standard from i don't see that standard in 8 point one.

>> it was simply an observation none the investigations are solely in any way just on first amendment activities. >> that's not what is the d go says it says involving not solely okay. >> yes, sir. >> that needs to be corrected going forward there is a solution but i'll let the chief adjust that. >> mr. president, on that issue lieutenant just a clarify there were 54 cases side-by-side are you saying that none of the 54 cases involved first amendment. >> i don't believe that any of the 54 cases fell under d go as it exists no. >> as it exists the d go 10

covers cases that involve first amendment not necessarily solely are with respect to a constitutional right i wanted to i'm asking to repeat this of 54 cases none of them involved the first amendment. >> right sir i don't believe that the investigations - they didn't solely involve. >> that's not what i'm asking you. >> that's not the standard i was using to be clear. >> well, i actually think that is the wrong standard as well that's not how i read it and i'm sorry lieutenant continue on we'll get back to that. >> yes, sir. >> sfpd members i'm sorry sfpd

members conduct the investigations with terrorist activity the subject photos may have sensitive mass trait areas and elected critical infrastructure in regards to correspondence and collaboration regarding the sfpd j.t. t f throughout 2016 the sfpd has worked collaboratively with community-based organization with the asian law caucus the council on islamic relations and the civil liberty units brought forth by those o the sfpd command staff has met regularly and incorporated and coordinated the involvement with the representative the sfpd and

the fbi the efforts are ongoing and include the training component for sfpd j.t. t f officers numerous letters were exchanged to take actions to alleviate the concerns brought forth it appears that all parties involved have agreed to the importance of effort of officers assigned to j.t. t f and concerns remain the sfpd is condominium to public safety and fulfilling this roll in preventing and investigating criminal activities chief bratton. >> i want to reiterate what lieutenant o'connor said we've been meeting with members of the

community and different organizations and have had a lot of meetings in discussion about the department mou the field operations bureau that exists exist and today we decided to issue a press release i think everyone has a copy we had a mou a memorandum of understanding that was signed in 2007 and once we come up on a 10 year timeframe of an mou it has to go back to the board of supervisors should be revised i agree we should look at something after 10 years so many things can change obviously over that amount of time the other thing as part of administrative code obviously police commission is the body of the programs and policies for us we will have to work collaboratively with you on

developing and possibly looking at the general orders 810 that will effect us so the department plans an updating the general order that effects immigration and things like that we're committed to community policing that's shown in the general orders in the meeting over the last year and we want to work collaboratively with the shareholders with the work begins on the general orders once it is adopted the department may consider renegotiating an mou with the j.t. t f with the fbi only after seeking guidance from this body as of today we've suspended our operation of the joint terrorism task force. >> (clapping.) >> but i think everyone knows we have a full commitment to the

safety public safety to the citizens and everyone and continue to work diligently to keep the city save and look forward to going forward o moving forward on that tactic and getting things done. >> before we start commissioners questions or comments chief anything else you want to add. >> just a reiterate thank you, chief and the last press release talks about the assurance of public safety and there will be some questions about what how this impacts public safety i want to insure the public we're committed to public safety and we're doing everything we can to protect the public and can't refulfills that enough i think that chief bratton says it all in terms of right now move forward with the joint terrorism

task force thanks. >> before you we get the commissioner questions or comments i'm going to invite under crew up to the podium one i'm trying to short circuit so we understand there have been community concerns and mr. crews has been raising those concerns and he did i'm going to give him about 5 minutes to summarize what those issues are you think that is important for the record and turn it the commissioners questions so we understand. >> thank you, commissioner i'll in light of that news trying to be brief and not use the entire 5 minutes my name is john crew. >> i'm sorry one second to be clear on the record mr. crew is

part of a record i want to make sure the report is clear for that purpose. >> i'm a retired attorney worked with the aclu on the issues and a author of the 810 many years ago speaking for myself i working closely with the caucus and aclu rather than too much detail i want to make a few observations number one proud of san francisco we've lead the way and standing up from the threat of donald trump our mayor is on board and board of supervisors and see the police department. >> no clapping folks. >> i will try not to have any our pause lines that so important because i want to reiterate what the chief said

about public safety i think that town understand the greatest gift to the public safety way of life not what donald trump calls radical terrorism this is the right move to make thank for not applauding that protects our relationship with the police department and i think that is for the comments were made about the involved standard of d go not only applies to the police department it is critical the head of the division began involved didn't mean don't protect public safety you have to have reasonable suspicion and use the protocols and that's what the discussions have been about we also found problems with with sanctuary or inquired as part of the progress to

protect the sanctuary and there is problems with profiling we've protected our laws and standing up for san francisco values i'm proud but thoobd i want to observe this you know those have not been easy issues the very first police commission of chief suhr was a joint meeting with the board of supervisors chavrmz with the human rights commission and the announcement was an order that bureau order to say comply with all orders here we are with chief scott and dealing with that issue i'm glad there's been a pause the president said let's figure out what the hell is going on stop trump a long history of diligence gathering in san francisco we need to be realistic the fbi will be asking of donald trump thank you to the

department all the time that was spent i'm concerned that the press release talked about the ab ability of the ordinance is clear that is what the ordinance says no doubt about that my suggestion is also that you make clear what you're leaving tonight our you're not going to reenter without pubically discussing that that would be bad faith part of history of the issue we found out there was a secret mou we find out that was a joint and it is important we be open and lastly the process in terms of reviewing and updating 810 he strongly encourage you to use the process again, you've used to create 810 this police commission appointed a committee to work two the predecessor chief will casey and the human rights and aclu and

others i think that will be be a federal process tshgsz or thank you for your time and leadership thank you. >> all right. commissioner you have questions or comments. >> mr. president. >> i don't have a button. >> commissioner hing. >> thank you i wonder if i ask, ask the lieutenant o'connor or i'm not sure who to direct this question i'm particularly concerned i'm going back a different question rather than the 54 cases my understanding how this works is what the 54 cases there was an inquiry of whether or not there was reasonable suspicion that a person's status check was done is is that correct? >> lieutenant o'connor looked

at that. >> the officers who were assigned to the j.t. t f with abandoning clear san francisco skaurngs not to participate in immigration status that was reviewed by me on a regular basis that self-occur in my of the cases. >> a personal status check was not used in my of the 54 cases those officers didn't participate in anything related to immigration. >> so to digress maybe i can't answer this question in other activities of the department is there of a person status check that is performed.

>> to your knowledge not related to j.t. t f. >> not that i'm aware of of anything else. >> this gentleman is in favor of the j.t. t f. >> i understand. >> maybe chief redd man. >> commissioners in my officers work with an outside entity that needed to be approved through the chain of command to me if it occurred it would not be approved. >> the reason it wouldn't be approved a clear violation of the sanctuary order. >> that's correct. >> thank you. >> any other commissioner questions. >> commissioner dejesus. >> i really you know, i really want to thank you for working with the aclu and the communities in collaborative in terms of getting to the bottom of issue i think that training is an issue all the years i've been here i've been told we have training we have trainees i

guess i was a little bit concerned i saw a response earlier today there is so ma allegations i didn't release we're not on the same page in terms of the standard one of the officers the complaint was filed against said it was not solely first amendment and not the word solely the next time we need to be on the same page of what it actually means in the report it says we have training and according i take everything with a grain of salt by according to the dialogue and aclu it indicates that the officers just read the bulletins and read the d go and interpreted that

themselves and the video was introduced so going forward we need to look at we're on on the same page we have train so everyone is clear what the definition is and how it relates and certainly with the we can - be in our benefit to work with our partners and putting the video training together 0 it is crystal clear i'm happy we're pulling out and going forward and addressing the issues that are ongoing issue for 10 years i think we got to the bottom and going forward we need to address the issue. >> commissioner in our meeting we'll make the community part of that we need to get to the right place before we start that. >> thank you. >> i wanted to say first of

all, i appreciate the work that of the j.t. t f protecting citizens both ways includes the citizens may be wrong fully treated are sewer validated that certainly in the letter and spirit of ordinance and the d go there are serious concerns raised by the letter and first of all, i appreciate and want to say that chief scott looked at that and made decisive moves he know you engaged in meaningfully conversations with the police commission and other folks in

the department and i think that it is the right decision at this point we need to seek j.t. t f participation i've not personally and i don't know of any other commissioners discussed with chief scott how we plan if there is any plan o to reinitiate and look at the d go it applies broader and we need to make sure interests understanding about that d go and training on both the security and the training on what we mean by written 30 years ago what is prohibited and not prohibited and take the steps immediately i'm speaking for myself i've had the conversations with my chief and i know the department is going to support him on that

with that, let's moved in a much more collaborative way before we reinitiate we need to have some type of public announcement and participation and voice on the we are going to ever rejoin the j.t. t f what will be required and the citizens of san francisco think i'm one voice not the entire commission. >> commissioner melara. >> i want to go to the issue we have also the public thinking what are we're going to do to insure the protection of the city and what i'll be the first one to say profiling are violating our sanctuary policies in the city i'd like us to really look at what are we're going to do moving forward because san francisco is a target city

you know it is - we are the middle of the map and really vulnerable and so i would like for us to think that way while we're going to protect every right in the city we'll not leave the city defenseless. >> i think that is our goal to strike a balance it is a concern of mine everyday the safety of the city and you know we're going to have to strike a balance that's our job. >> thank you commissioner president turman i spoke with the chief regarding this and worked with mr. crew and the asian law caucus we were discussing the issue of working with the joint task force part of the agreement we reached was to make it clear to the public our officers were only working

on investigations involving the violation of appeal code or the united states appeal code i promised the community to have trust how things are handled on the odds of the federal building you know having been a former u.s. attorney i thought things were handled correctly, however, the community didn't trust what is happened we as a police commission have given it went and seen what has happened he i have to tell you i don't see the fbi or the u.s. attorney here but our role as that the police commission to respond to the community i think you as is audience we've heard and listening chief for the last week and events transpired i fully support this division by a

chief of police thank you for that. >> dr. marshall. >> my only comment i think the facts speaks for itself and this has come up in the past we have to have a participation in the j.t. t f agreement crafting a new general order we should all everybody will agree with this i think we should all be harden by the fact we put together 3 general orders from the cameras to the use of force and have a lot of great minds in the room i'm sure we'll have something almost 100 percent will be able to moved in if critical climate let's get to work. >> anything else chief. >> no, sir.

>> next item. >> and ladies and gentlemen, this but we want our comments and participation so, please know there is an overflow room 416 is open and being used at the moment so, please feel free to go to the overflow room this is being presented there as we speak. >> hello deputy chief. >> good evening commissioner president turman and commissioner vice president mazzucco and commissioners chief scott and members of the public i'm chief hector i oversee the risk management office that concludes administrator investigations in officer-involved shooting and sergeant from the internal foyers will talk about the

review board report sergeant. >> good evening commissioner president turman and commissioners director joyce hicks and chief scott i'm sergeant john i'm assigned to the internal affairs and work with the officer-involved shooting investigations team i'll give a report on a couple of things tonight astounded we'll be talking about summarizing the last firearm discharge review board the fourth quarter for the review board and the status of open officer-involved shooting

investigations so the will have i believe in our packets the letter from intern chief scott that recaps the firearm discharge review board for the fourth quarter two cases that were the investigations were completed and presented o i d both discharges officer-involved discharge considered the officer was reloading a personal firearm no injuries that was a finding of not in police and a training recommendation officer-involved discharge 516 on september 26th in a private

residence that was during a high search warrant the officers were assigned and conducted did search and one officer trying to activity a firearm with a flashlight the mr. walton was in an unoccupied closet not in policy findings. >> for the first time since the general order was adopted we've had a couple of into custody death cases to present to a into custody board two cases that were presented and again, you'll have this letter dated december 28th if chief chaplin that covers that in more specifics did cased casing one was a case it occurred on

november 2012 the da charging decision was dated february 4, 2016, and the final homicide report was completed to close the investigation in august of 2016 so in this particular case an office on parole near golden gate park encountered someone appeared to be it under the influence the drugs and they closed fulsome street and a physical alteration induced the officers ultimately 5 officers responded to the scene attempting physical holds to sub due the suspect and get medical aid at one time he lifted all 5

officers they get an ambulance but the subject went into cardiac arrest and passed away on november 30th as a result of acute drug intoxicate that was a finding of in policy ic d was october 10, 2014, it occurred on the 11 hundred block of larkin street a scientist called a 5150 evaluation at the same time 9-1-1 saw a bloody naked man two unit responded again, a physical struggle enconfused they attempted to get the subject i subject retrained

paramedics administrative code a set active the subject went into cardiac arrest and pronounced dead the findings was cardiac arrest that was a finding in policy. >> do you have any contact contact with the officers when the subject encountered the naked bloody subject. >> what - thou obviously attempted to use something that was not effective there e yes there was contact with him but physical restraints physical controls they attempted to get him - >> it was noted here with physical contact. >> do you have a better idea so go ahead give me a better idea of physical constraints.

>> hand restraint to attempt getting him medical treatment and get him to an ambulance when the ambulance arrived they administered a seductive and he went into cardiac arrest. >> were they restraining him. >> the ambulance was staged it was not long by the time there is was a struggle to get him controlled and the ambulance was already there when they had him. >> the next the first quarter of 2017 scheduled march 2016 that is tentative waiting for a confirmation and the status of officer-involved

shootings investigations this seems like district attorney gentleman have you the first day quarter was detailed several times since the third quarter report there was a new ois that was opened on january 25th, 2017, as of january 24, '13 of the cases the criminal investigations are recorded by the sfpd and the harasses are waiting for the district attorney's office those are listed in the separate report two criminal investigations with active that the sfpd with the district attorney and/or with the chairman itself criminal

investigation was completed by the officer is incapacitated. >> so just to recap overseeing cases the 2014 on that slide i believe you have the list of cases all those cases except for 1500 six the other cases with waiting for charging from the da 15006 is tolling per 3304 of the federal code the remaining cases other remaining cases 1603 was opened october 15, 2016, and one was a january 6, 2018-2019 are active the others are waiting for a decision from the da

questions for sergeant. >> commissioners. >> thank you sergeant i'm sorry. >> i think. >> commissioner dejesus. >> i don't know that is a question i raised before i think i'll raise it again maybe not a question but i still think that we should have community represents on the fir discharge so maybe the new issues we can talk about that i don't think that is there any law we have a lot of consultants that sign culture agreement we have do that for background at the cops program i'll raise that and put that on an agenda item to be discussed we need the representation on that board thank you. >> commissioner that's within

the remedies by the d o g and we'll be looking at that when we look at updating the general order on the firearm and discharge review board. >> thank you. >> okay. >> any further questions. >> next item, please. >> item 1-b dpa on that dpa activities and presentation of dpa 2016 first amendment compliance audit pursuant to the general order. >> good evening director hicks. >> good evening commissioner president turman and commissioner vice president mazzucco and commissioners chief scott members of the public the dpa is no right activity to report this evening, however, we

have a report on our first amendment compliance audit i'd like to thank deputy chief balthazar for his work on the audit as well as attorney john alden and sam for presenting the report and she will deliver the report this evening. >> good evening. >> good evening commissioner president turman commissioner vice president mazzucco and commissioners chief scott welcome director hicks members of the public it is my pleasure to give this report on 810 we obviously there is some discussion about that in terms of the joint terrorist task force every year our agency is required to provide an audit i want to spent a lot of time to talk about the requirement under 810 the results of our audit and made some recommendations i think are still pertinent as we

move forward in terms of the requirements under 810 they've been discussion about what it is requirement and the requirement to conduct a criminal investigation needs to be an articulate and reasonable suspicion to building about is that person or organization planning criminal activity that could result in serious bodily injury and property damage over $2,000,500 or or a hate crime or misdemeanor and that activity are relevant so not just sole first amendment but first amendment activities are involved, of course, we can there is a board range of first amendment freedom of speech and firemen of religion and the right to peacefully assembly in 810 in order for the police department to have the

investigation the department is not reexcluded from the investigations there are written requirements and authorizations and oversight the police department is documenting the police commission look at the log of our agency the audit the paperwork a misrepresent process for the first amendment activities the written authorization involves where the officer is stating the facts and circumstances that give rise to the articulateable suspicion the investigation needs to occur and needs to be documents what the first amendment activities and the identity of the individual the focus of the investigations and then an authorization process where the head of the special investigations division as well as the deputy chief as well as the chief of police makes sure the documents is in

order multiple reviews and as you may know the police commission looked at that paperwork so this year we conducted our audit as every year and filed a report as every year we filed that report on friday that is available to the public and part of what i'll going over the results this is an audit we are requesting the police department to provide us records our audited the records that the police department provides us of the records the police department stated no records of investigation authorized under 810 we were told no records of investigations denied no records of undercover officers pursuant to that 810 during the year in records of unlawful activities beyond the scope of the letter and no prosecution thought

letters concerning the public records requests two, that has to do with with the i ms some information was provided on one of the requests the other one resulted in a denial another part of audit was to again if you look at 810 listed the kinds of documents from the department any of the agency forms and so we were provided 4 records and there were 4 investigations that involved outside agencies we summarized what those agencies were part of audit involved where their violations of 810 and in that regard we found a violation during 2006 where we had a complaint from the previous year which concluded our investigations next year this year this year when we interviewed the officers in

terms of what the standard for conducting an 810 investigation the standard he believed he was following was he was preconcluded from the investigations that were solely based on first amendment activity we in looking at what the standard was much different than that it is a criminal investigation that involves first amendment activities we found that the conduct the training was not was the cause of problem we conducted a training failure in that case which gives rise to our report underscores the needs for a need for correction some of the recommendations if in our report number one to require immediate appliance with 810 so that the correct suicide standard is provided for all officers and the immediate training in the

recommendations we recommend the department bulletin is issued to provide the correct standard for 810 it is not complicated by misrepresent stepped up to the plate and anytime a criminal investigation regarding first amendment and a series of documentation and authorization that is required so we're recommending an immediate department bulletin that lays out those requirements there be immediate training and that the train the department has from 2000 not post 9/11 but scenarios officers wasn't test their knowledge on whether the conduct fails under 810 and the other recommendations has to do with with most certainly heard about the j.t. t f and the participation in that but 810 goes beyond the j.t. t f to

resolve the issues as part of our recommendations someone from the commission assist with the projects that have to move forward in terms of meeting with us and meeting are stakeholder and revisions to the training and the light to the commission or appoint someone we can move more rapidly on moving forward that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions. >> thank you for your report just so you know that commissioner hing has volunteered to see that will be precipitating with you any other questions for the commission. >> commissioner dejesus i'm sorry. >> so you kind of answered it in a way the years we've been here we've not seen written authorization now the communities and you have participated with the department found out we have their have a

totally different interpretation how their applying the general order - how would you suggest like - in terms of training going forward i mean how would you suggest that you make that clear the authorization has to be obtained and whether if their endowed or have a question we've not seen the authorization and the fbi said they contain the first amendment. >> in part to divide the department bulletin and has works and done the bulletins they've given examples how the examples of an investigate under 810 and the multiple kind of scenarios that fail under 810 i'll recommend to do a video training is an important aspect

that conveys the meaning of 810 and enables the officers to testism some are immediate the department goals will be immediate versus roll call training and the video training will it takes time. >> and the last thing i'll say you're talking about you mentioned about the d go a new d go but revising the d go. >> brarpz if there's aspects there was confusion about the standard perhaps to clarify that i think most certainly they've been a lot of thought and history to the requirements and most civil grand jury wanted to make sure the requirements that exists under 810 from our perspective make sure there is compliance with the requirements

they had multiple layers of oversight and the ability to protect first amendment activities and also at the same time conducting important investigations i don't see a complete revision but there are things that need to be in turned so be it. >> thank you. >> i'm sorry yes go ahead. >> thank you commissioner president turman can you, you alluded to the need of a department bulletin is that right? >> yes. that's right. >> is that something your office been drafting. >> that will be something from the chief of police sign and issue. >> i see. >> but - i'm sorry which - who is the individuals you're working with. >> i'm sorry. >> who the members of the department you're working with on the issues. >> in the past i've worked with an assistant chief sign on

the departmental bulletins. >> i hope that you and chief sign and commissioner dejesus get together as soon as possible to begin ironing out some of the facility issues for solutions to the chef and happens to be a department order let's recognize that if so it immediate all right. >> thank you so much. >> thank you any other questions. >> director hicks. >> yes. commissioner president turman that concludes our report. >> okay commission concert next item. >> item one c president's report and commissioners report. >> i have no report this evening. >> commissioners.

>> i participated in the march. >> i participated in the women's march which i understand was very peaceful and created very little disturbance. >> i want to commend the chief and the department on the handling of the airport situation i have many colleagues were out there observing and they will confirm with our report thanks. >> all right. >> all right. >> any other commissioners report? next item. >> item one d commissions and scheduling the items for future meeting action. >> all right. so commissioner melara. >> yeah. he brought up this item in the past but i think that we need to discuss some of the rules and procedures and responsibilities as - because

as we work with a new chief it is important for us to understand the responsibility we have that i bans any previous commission experience we've not followed this commission i would like for us to really discuss that so we moved in a more clear way. >> to that point there was not too long ago a commission order of a schedule of reports and responsibilities to the year through the calendar year we need to follow more rigorly i was reviewed with the commission skeet and put it out to the rest of the commissioners and certainly will be part of retreat that we will be going to it is definitely within our thoughts to get on a better track and to complete our

responsibility in a much anymore organized - and just as an immediate thing i want to make sure we pay attention to the sunshine ordinance - i've seen a couple of e-mails back and forth where all commissioners were cc on the e-mail we want to make sure that the people understand the commissioners are not authorized to communicate with each other you know negative impact that manner so if any there are any questions the city attorney can let us know. >> may i ask you mr. president, is that the kingsley document you're referring to. >> (laughter). i remember that thank you >> any other commission items

for scheduling okay. >> next speaker, please. >> commissioner we need public comment on items one a through d. >> read the public comment. >> oh, i'm sorry is that general public comment on items one a through one d. >> first member of the public please. >> good evening director the foundation i'd like to congratulate the department on doing the right thing he rarely get to say that with the drawing of j.t. t f mou and like to encourage the department not to renew the mou as long as a such an unbelievable and dangerous

staff in washington i have deep concerns about the imposed discrepancy concerning the general order 810 that warranties a comprehensive investigation into all cases that ever addressed under the sfpd interpreted didn't fit the general orders intent and meaning and also i would like to question from the report with into custody death both cases seem to warrant the question of the task force both of - the mental health crisis and at the intervention task force they warrant the intervene off those personnel that was completely unclear in the presentation of

those into custody deaths whether or not there was in any crisis intervention team involvement and i think that needs to be clarified and released to the public thank you. >> next member of the public please. >> good evening, everyone my name is christine an attorney at the asian law caucus and working on sfpd issues since including but not limited to one i actually first acknowledge i'm happy of the news that sfpd has suspended participation with the joint task force, however, i recognize that didn't preclude sfpd from rejoin so i'll express my concerns the 3 requests of the commission one when the

updating of general order occurs please make sure that is not weakened those protection are critical now with donald trump in office and absolutely incredible and two not joining the j.t. t f and 3 from the department rejoins only with proper training i reviewed the j.t. t f 2016 the compliance report once again we see that the fbi standards rather than sfpd standards are quoted and with those many meetings allison park troubled to see that once again our department is quoting federal standards rather than our local standards they're completely different and it is important that as the dpa mentioned not just a j.t. t f that applies more brotherhood and trouble those standards are

not followed so again, please make sure that 810 is not wraelgd weakened it only joins with proper training and not allow them to rejoin after the training and give serious consideration not rejoining the j.t. t f at all. >> thank you next member of the public. >> allen with the aclu i'm happy to know the decision of the department a lot of talk about resistance to the trump administrations policies resistance took on a new meaning dianne feinstein said - in terms of the kind of values that san francisco stand for 3 jewels

in the crown would think is the sanctuary city policy one is the use of force policy that you adapted, and d go is one of the jewels each one is in treat in personnel of the federal government i think what is remarkable what happened today that you didn't wait for something bad to happen you actively stunned the participation and take into account the shortcomings i think outside the box as wonderful way to start chief scott reign not reign but (laughter) and i think that is shows the community and the stakeholders over the last year that your listening your work is not done i think everyone from the departments to the commission felt strongly about president

obama task force on 21st century policing well, there will be a president trump on 19 century policing you'll have to resist that i'm confident you will thank you. >> good evening. >> good evening thank you, commissioners i'm brittany a civil rights attorney with care the san francisco bay chapter i appreciate the efforts of san francisco police department to keep the city save and work with the community there announcement today that they that will be suspending collaboration with the j.t. t f we welcome this this is great news and thank you to the community for all the work to make that happen to make sure that san francisco is abiding by the laws and values given the recent action and conduct in the current

administration is important that san francisco continues to be a leader in showing the city it's commitment to protecting the citizens and working with the community and not against it and this is a great step towards that we said this is the suspension and not a withdrawal we continue to work with the commissioners and the san francisco police department to make sure that these issues do not appear again and we're concerned about the training issue across the department that was brought up several times tonight thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> commissioners my name is daniel i'm an attorney in san francisco and i submitted on behalf of the lgbt leaders of this city a letter in support of work of asian law caucus and aclu i want

to read off the names to the community knows the strength of the lgbt community supervisor scott wiener and supervisor sheehy former senator leno and former supervisor campos and former angela and former commissioner peter trustee honorable tom nolan former chair the sfmta and the reaping and former commissioner quinn e gwen and michael and kate the national center for lesbian rights and the individual freedom the green institute and pride law firm and rebecca and myself this is a very wide and very deep support in the lgbt community thank you for the

commissioners and chief scott for your work to support and be vigilant for the values of the city for all to stay vigilante i'm glad to report this news back to the communities >> good evening. i'm reverend i'm reading on behalf of the my friend who be here she was here but i'm reading here remark she had to leave a long time resident and lived here 19 years and teach as san francisco state university she wanted to be here at first, the students shared their feelings after the election but stoke of living in

the state of california they felt they were safer given the sanctuary declarations that the city and state have made they were concerned about the radical shift in government that impacts our families and friends outside the state of california in the constitutional law class that she teaches students are born of immigrants parents come out of high school believing in the democratic governs of the united states and come confident in the government and law that they are on their side and this is what their parents and teachers have always told them but with each pga day with the administration they're coming to learn the circus practices like the san francisco police department not come applying with the safe civil rights ordinance and the believe in the system have been

crushed they can't focus in class and worried about their parent and friends and i'm going to turn it over there their usz citizens or not and stories of people carted address harassed unlawfully detained for looking at the way they look and their perceived as an enemy instead of protected by the law they're afraid at a level she's not seen before. >> thank you for your comment i appreciate your words and appreciate you're talking about this but thank you i'm sorry thank you for your comments next speaker please. with the aclu of northern california former with the asian law caucus and decorates and chief thank you for the news we

got today, i want to take a minute and respect the roles of the community hundreds if in the thousands of community members have been working 79 civil rights effort to hold the fbi accountable from the area i'm delighted to see we're renotifying this relationship completely and i just have a couple of asks of you guys as we move forward reference to the mou might be renegotiated if that happens please include us the community members members of the south asian and the lgbt community all of us want to be able to talk about what and how this impacts our community directly paralleling under a trumpet administration and i'll say we been working working with you guys for 5 years this

ordinance was passed in 2012, the police department has worked with us and met with us i'll ask maybe there should be an audit might be worthwhile understanding what why it was like pulling teeth and make sure that ordinances that apply to the stewardship and the rest of san francisco are implemented to get at the results we want thank you for your time i appreciate the work you guys have done. >> nice to see you here again. >> thank you. >> next speaker please. hi there my name is oh, had i'm the member of the south asian taking action i work in fremont my daughter is an immigrant and i'm the daughter of a police officer i love being part of the community i book shows i organize the shower to the

people a punk band of south asian and local openers from the city and oakland this is the most moving show with the expressions the kindness and care amongst the exists show dodgers and the citizens san francisco is a culture of minority and people from all over. >> excuse me - >> i ask the san francisco police department to protect the safety of immigrants and the stop of profile and trumps orders to make sure that sfpd complies with the san francisco civil rights ordinance and please don't participate in you know continuing the joint

terrorism tasking and i'm talk to you, please maintain us as a sanctuary city so we're not afraid to live here thank you. >> for - >> thank you. >> sir. >> i'm sorry ma'am. >> commissioners and chief my name is ann i'm a resident of so for for 17 years i also served in the commission development i was appointed by mayor amusing and mayor ed lee my - i'm here to express my concern with the police department failure to work with the immigrants a at that particular time with the civil rights ordinance chief you may know in our

historical research into the department there have been a number of criticize that have come to light issues of challenges and racist texting for reasons for the community not to trust the police in this vein it is important to hold the highest training and hearing the challenge about training one you clarified your standard is about but even in hearing that i'm not a lawyer i i can't imagine someone that is an attorney can understand that. >> i'm a lawyer. >> how you convey that needs to go beyond a memorandum of understanding i will reiterate that others have said given what is happening in d.c. i don't

want the police department to take the accuse from the analyzed government but to maintain our standards that are significantly higher to create a community that feels save for immigrants and people of color and brothers and sisters i love this city and want to express our values and people to be treated fairly and hopefully, the police department will make that true thank you. >> thank you. >> to clarify the record i see my city attorney interrupt this o'clock will stop and restart. >> you'll have two seconds. >> good evening. >> good evening i'm every single i've been working in the tech industry and usf for the pass 6 years in this moment profiling harassment and the

fact of the matter are the biggest threats to any immigrant community and by far the single threat to our ability to engage in my kind of public life i'm happy to hear the j.t. t f inspired and hope if it comes back scrutiny but if it goes through it is critical we make sure to really tighten those standards like we saw right here a lot of misunderstanding potentially and what actually required working for us relevant this is implemented and well understood i really identity with the the experience in 2014 hoping none will have to go through a situation especially under a trumpet administration

so again, i hope the commission follows the elements from the mta thank you. >> good evening. >> hi, i'm i i've been a resident for 19 years and want to support this withdrawal from the j.t. t f and speaking not only in behalf of south ailing community but living in the mission like a lot of my friends from many countries that effects people and status i appreciate you know just the extra step and in particular feel like the discussion you know the police are in charge of the sfpd i'm sorry sfo within san francisco you know it is people talking about extra training like that

extra effort at the airport whatever that entailed i appreciate it. >> thank you next member of the public please. >> good evening director and chief i'm a resident of the visitacion valley in san francisco and i'm also a member of the south asians taking action i applaud you the terrorism task force and hoping - i definitely look forward as san francisco and a member of minority community to being here if j.t. t f standards are discussed thank you. >> thank you. >> hi, i'm buck a member of

the bernal heights democratic club i support asian americans justice and care we're doing a great job and in bernal heights we were fortunate we have a mosaic in san francisco and you know we reached out to them over the years and go to they're open houses this year they said you always said you'll back us this year we need you in their worried we're worried we had an event with one and 20 people because it was bernal heights we turned away 200 people one of the commissioner was in st. mary's park but we claimed that was bernal i want to say the ingleside station the folks from the mosaic we call up the captain i said you don't dr. to do that call them up they'll meet with you, we phoned ahead

we didn't know a couple of us were doing security extra patrol on the ask the captain has had extra patrols around the mosaic around san francisco that fortunately never had incidents the fbi is a different story you all are not old enough to remember what they did to people like myself like boston and cambridge the police are not what we're talking about work on the efficiency. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> i joined the community members and advocates out of stay out of trumgz j.t. t if f

i'm chinese-american my parents were the target of national security i know that offhand fbi violations and abuse affect on families of the community members less than two years ago my family was womb up to the federal bureau of investigation bank on any door my father opened the door and a - he was arrested on the spot and the fbi caused him ever psa u.s. technology secrets to china he was a spy accused of being a spy they tapped his phone's and read his e-mails we live in fear the fbi may have been listening to our conversations we don't feel safe in our own homes months later the charges were dropped

no basis and after a legal process you know there was no basis for those charges their dropped to this day the federal bureau of investigation is not accountable for its actions against my family my family's life was turned upside down my father was criminalized for something he didn't do my father is not the only one but chinese people have been surveilled by the fbi chinese-american are stereotyped because of the mccartney era as custom notifies anommunists and >> thank you, ma'am, your time

is up. >> >> next speaker, please. >> i'm going to keep this short i'm - i grew up in southeast part of san francisco my family moved here from india all and all that city is what i know of living in america and i'm raising my children i love this city with all my heart in the past week the leadership have unequally said you've protect the community that trump is targeting i appreciate you and asking you to fulfill that by withdrawing from the j.t. t f

please make sure the officers working with the fbi are immediately trained on the rules and requirement of the san francisco civil rights ordinance and our sanctuary city ordinance please tell him they're our officers and our rules apply not trumps and thank you for the remarks earlier i also hope that for the sake of all san franciscans we only strengthen our commitment to sanctuary in those times thank you. >> thank you. >> hi. >> hi my name is kate a mom of two kids on the west side i own a business in the mission district and i want to say 3 things first of all, i support from withdrawal from the j.t. t f and the only glimmer of hope i

see the last few months the mayors announcement we'll be having the recommendations on racial profile by worried about we won't have leverage i'm asking this body to one make sure you're looking at all the leverages available not federal levers implement all the recommendations so this critical issue is important in the climate, and, secondly, the chain of command is gray we've seen instances of members of armed services not local but state and federal defy court orders not in the city but opens up the question what happens when our policies policies with

the officers follow for the many wonderful people on the force doing the right thing as things are more complicated i recommend you have a serious clarifying the chain of command and training the officers how to respond appropriately when our laws and policies in california differ if the rest of the country the trumping administration yeah. sorry i'll stop there i'm very nervous thank you. >> thank you. >> karen san franciscans for police go accountability and justice for mario woods coalition and actually chief scott this is for you this is a hoffton post blog i wrote at the end of 2016 detailing all the accomplishment that activists police accountability activists

achieved if the the first day of black history month and your first police commission meeting we reflect on doug who is alive that power concedes chief scott welcome to you and your family in case you're not crystal clear the fact that our chief of the sfpd is 100 percent because the people rose up and demand that mayor ed lee fire chief suhr and hire an external chief not enforced by the piano pee mayor ed lee wanted to appoint toney chaplin i that toney chaplin is the deputy chief and executive officer was a guest at the lunch ben the ymca this is

unacceptable we didn't fight for you to be with chief suhr and the poa sfpd is one of the most poorly managed life or death departments in the united states people demanded a change agent that's you if you're not going to change sfepd we'll rise up against you, please watch the history of the sfpd as supervisor president london breed stated there is tremendous mistrust of sfpd by the community and must be sfpd to take the step to build that trust by pfeiffer the problematic officers and fixing this department that's the only thing - >> . >> (clapping.) >> i'm made an announcement about the applause that is

disruptive, and, secondly, i should have interpreted ms. mr. richie man you're to direct your comments to the board and not individuals so i apologize to chief scott because please direct your comments to the commissions not to individuals with that. >> next speaker, please. >> thank you very much i'm an as native to san francisco i grew up in the lombard went to sherman elementary was never a born to a police officer but a traffic guard for 5 years at the elementary i said to infringement thank you for being a beacon of light in a dark world that is shaping up i respect the fact i live in san francisco i cal state university my neighbors my friends

regardless of their race and gender and orientation i'm mostly first but i am an american citizen next and i feel that is a right for us to stand tonight unified regardless of political beliefs or background this is the time for a stand for unification and time for collaboration i'm pleased to hear that san francisco the city that i believe read and belief is one of the cities that takes is a stand against the wrong light thank you, again respect i ask no matter what we form better aligns with the jewish and christian with every faith and work together with the police officers walking the beat and make this

city again, a beacon of hope instead of a city and land people are afraid to live if thank you for your time for hearing us this is my first time i respected the fact you guys take us seriously and consider what we say i appreciate that thank you very much. >> yes, sir. >> good evening my name is david i'm a muslim-american i would like you to doing everything we can to back up us and support our community and the consortium that's all i need thank you. >> yes, sir. >> mr. president. >> i'm sorry yes. >> one second. >> 30 seconds.

>> go ahead. >> very a quick response to some of the speakers about wanting but and the police department to do all it can i assure you i do but part of responsibility is the community i think that is you've said this was an autism e awful weekend the police will not save us from donald trump i want you to know that and so i - i wanted to throw out a number there was a inform rapid response team in the organizations and the number is 844878 - i can come in and the san francisco police department will not save us. >> thank you. >> 844878.

>> good evening and thank you for what you do and what you try to do and what you will do what community support thank you commissioner hing for reminding us to do our duty the sanctuary city is one i hope will be interpreted a couple of ways one the traditionally sanctuary city issue that we're hearing about and joining in and supporting right now it's been a sanctuary city issue for a long time for the individuals in the community that are treated definitely because of their race or identity or regardless of the status in terms of immigration and most of the time in the current issue those things overlap with race, and status there is another sanctuary problem that some officers in

the san francisco police department have been pleading for and that's the sense of safety chief i'm sorry not populated to address the chief the sense of safety when they tried to do the right thing to do and so i'd like to ask this commission to embrace that the part of sanctuary city that allows our police officers who are trying their best to exemplify justice and honor of service in the face of a obstructionist biggest police officers association that incidentally supported trumping intent on undermining the good policies and practices this commission and the department have tried to do keep in mind the current residents in the chair of the

poa has survived four chiefs now so when we look at centers of power we know the continuity of the police officers association and they can't wait to embarrass our chief like they're serving hotdogs. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you yes, sir. >> good evening, commissioners i'm keep this very short david one of the 10 founding members of the police accountability thank you, very much very much with trumping in power the d o j cops office we'll no longer have a person if reform i'm repeat we

need very much to engage a broad community to interact on policy as shareholders i'd like to thank commissioner dejesus for bringing that up time and time again, please take into account as you move forward any policies issues that don't have the community involved not just the aclu and the you know kind of like the establishment community but the grassroots community please try to find a place for us thank you. >> thank you next member of the public please. my name is rebecca you'll have to excuse me i've spent a long day trying to serve the city and sfpd a summons murdered by sfpd

month is the murder of any immigrant lopez who was shot in the back by sfpd when we talk about immigrant safety i really think 24 needs to start with taking a stand against the racial profiling that is historically in san francisco not new under the trump region sanctuary status is incredibly important but the vital fear in the immigrant and the brown and black community is really i think the forefront of this issue i ask you to join with me we talk about racial profiling a large coalition watching closely the inhumane and visual us treatment of a man shot and i believe he was handcuffed to a hospital bed

so we're here to demand those charges be dropped and when we talk about immigrant safety we talk about real issues like the foundation has existed since 2001 when an immigrant a woman of color her son was murdered by the sfpd those are issues that have historically exist we talk about racial profiling of muslims of brown and black people can of our disfranchised communities that are facing distribution. >> thank you. >> yes, sir. >> high commission i'll try for fairly brief i want to say with san franciscans of police

accountability i want to make clear to the commission and everyone the issues of police brutality and accountability of the police department we don't have officers that are lying and doing cover ups of brutality with what happened in the city needs to be considered for sanctuary city policies because if we can't trust the officers to foreperson follow the directives didn't matter they'll find ways to work around that i encourage you all to keep accountability also at the forefront to keep the policies meeting. >> any other public comment not general public comment public comment on items one a through one d seeing none,

public comment is closed. item 2 presentation regarding the early intervention discussion. >> all right. i building that director hicks your office is presenting. >> yes. after the police department. >> i'm sorry good evening ambassador commissioner president turman and members of the public i'm here introducing captain watching opening statement many of our presenter come up and sense we have different bureaus you'll see command staff to understand the chain of command the structure of our department puts a perspective who is presenting and which command staff i'm going to turn it over to the captain. >> and thank you assistant

chief that is helpful thank you very much. >> captain watching how are you. >> i'm very good thank you, commissioner. >> good evening members of the public and others i'm captain watching with the at risk division division this is the eis division. >> i'm here to respond to a list of questions from october that commissioner dejesus presented there were 14 enumerated questions with a subset of questions also with me stacey that directly oversees the eis will be able to answer our analysis questions the questions provided by

commissioner dejesus meshed together so instead of each question individually and being redundant i'll give an overall response if you feel you want memo to dlef deeper we'll answer 80s questions the eis was established if 1994 as the early what were were or warping system to prevent officers from knitting misconduct in 2007 the system was renamed the early intervention and the change has the belief the members of the san francisco police department are the most important asset within the organization the eis is system will look at factors that may read or show that officers are suffering from job stress or personal issues that may cause officers to fall short of professional services

as well as not serving the community needs as we would want the intent of this system to provide a non-disciplinary intervention just a quick review i know your familiar but there are 10 indicators with 14 associated factors the indicators are listed in the general order the university of california, san francisco as required by d go and the officer-involved shootings and oigdz, occ complaint now dictionary g a and mcd that is internally affairs and civil suits and on duty accidents from vehicle pursuits the accommodations and awards arrests by office and citations

by offices and marcus books stops and training history and volunteer overtime and the discretionary time off and usage not protected by local law if you're principle participant in a critical incident criminal cases not filed or dismissed due to document with the members conduct as provided by the district attorney's office charges of resisting, obstructing or detailing a police officer and as a result on a police officer most of questions that were asked has to do with with the associated factors currently eis does not use all the factors listed in the general order due to technical offers no obstructing or detailing the police officers or assaults on peace officer the records of our reports didn't isolate the officers or charging officers to

those offenses for example, a detailing charge against an individual that ran from a police and substantial gives up maybe be a simple misdemeanor not requiring all the officers - but the member of eis about attempt to see if in any officers are blamed to the actual charged that is costuming based on the association of the officers the second area we're associated factors of resisting arrest in the cable system if so archaic and shouldn't be because it is phased out the district attorney's office is anticipated to move to justice another system for court cases in charging this system any help us track those associated factors

the inability not to track a factor not to see they're not useful but not every factor comes into play in mri my experience shows a pattern of development and a discussion with the officers will draw out the underlying issue when a pattern is not found the supervisor must speak to the member on alert this discussion is valuable and allows the priorities so initiate the conversations about the exceptions and what performance the department expects of officers that was added and requires the supervisor to sign off whether or not the pattern of misbehavior is shown this leads me to confusion to some of the questions i'd like to clarify that failures to appear are tracked as s i a

complaints members missed in court are investigated for the complaints under those investigations we generally find out if, in fact, the issues exist there is a discussion at the station level it is a station level investigation simply if we receive a complaint from the city attorney or any office about credibility issues we investigate interests an i a complaint that type of behavior in this situation i'm sorry in in situation and associated factor actually becomes an indicator so what the general order with the document cases of untruthfulness or nothing like that comes as a higher factor we're notified about that similar to the general order and this has to do with with the interventions occur when certain thresholds with met for example,

if an officer uses force 3 times within 3 months their places on alert and a review takes place to see in a pattern exists from the pattern is ascertained and a plan developed for an officer from the perception this is what appears to work we don't have a system that works we to have a high volume of interventions police officers don't show a pattern of risk, however, i will pout that intervention through eis is not the only tool that the department seize the officers need training we offer peer support and outreach and the employee assistance and private visits to medical professionals i'd like to give you an example what takes place at the station and level i spoke to david larry city attorney i

asked them if they have performed any investigations out of eis system central station conducted 3 form cigarettes and 5 informal bay area station has 4 formal session the supervisors inteenld prior to eis when the performance or other issues were discovered or observed the best tool for southeast our greatest assets the peers and supervisors that surround them evidence several questions concerned higher thresholds but automatic interventions with automatic intervenes even been absent a pattern risk again, if success is predicated on the number of formula than speaking with oakland pd one of

their thresholds is an officer assigned excuse me - warranty custodies to old is consistently on the eis system you couldn't exempt the officer may miss a pattern of at risk behavior once the system is route the fact an alert comes to a commanding officer or supervisor shows something out of the orderly maybe take place the system has notified them they must use a critical eye to see what is happening with the officer roll call in baltimore the officer dropped the thresholds from 6 to 3 the doj find in some cases that was too late to intervention with the higher standard the issues had already grown to a place of misconduct or in some

cases crime regardless of whether eis moves for hire threshold or mandatory intervene the factors should be considered carefully another set of questions requested information about the field training and the supervisors training and the eis unit overruling the supervisors the fto used the indicators the eis indicators are gathered into multiple parts the same ones in the database on top of that the fto program needs recommends from sergeant and lieutenant from each officers that want to admitted followed up by a 3 panel as for training it should be reviewed and updated the department will will research better ways for supervisors to take a look at patterns and initiate interventions i like to

point out that was placed on lovingly 28, 16 a department bulletin that gouz goes out with every eis and shows side supervisors how to complete the packet if they have any questions the eis unit is available to answer them we get the alert and review the alerts we will look at some short term goals like publishing a cheat sheet on the internet and supervisors what review those and we'll move with the academy to have a a o or c p t our professional training classes with sergeants attend or at least training be used if that sergeant youngblood can plain explain that process and lastly

where is the eis going sergeant youngblood made this functioning and sergeant has been making the recommendations the department building this is more robust and integrated is wander first we've engaged the university of chicago to potentially review our eis system and currently chicago reviews systems for chief scott north carolina and we've in preliminary talks and the mayor's office is engaged there is potential grant money to cover some cost and maybe additional costs from the doj review preliminary talks about says our system is excellent, however, what indicators were brought to their attention by other departments the example

from charlotte officers in focus groups mentions a factor should be considered was a response to suicides either the university of chicago nor the command structure of the charlotte station list that as an indicator the most important assets should be asked what effects them in their shifts everyday on a wider scale from areas through but department the doj recommended data be collected and analyzed the bureaus is working on data collection for each over will not only benefit the day to day operations the it projects are underway but i can't speak to a timeline due to misrepresent unit and misrepresent bureau dimensions i can tell you that is a department priority the largest hurdle with the eis how to examine it as a whole the

department will is significant data we'll be responsible for tracking and naval this could be academics institution a private entity and a new group of employees we can have all the data in the world without proper review we'll not learn and lastly leave you with that throughout the please be advised the ringing of and use of cell phones and other electronic devices are prohibited. released the report in 2017 that referred to eis in the following way quote ultimately 9 system will identify officers who are not a real at a risk of misconduct and fail to identify area officer in a sense the system is a tool not a selection that the incumbent that supervisors been the first line in the intervention sergeant

youngblood and i will be available to answer any questions and my colleague will present. >> you answered my questions or not i can't tell we have in february in february last year, we sent a letter to the mayor's office we were concerned about the eis system we said we'll be look at that and be on top of that i've asked to have the eis present present i came up with those over a month ago you guys are ready to go forward but the - i prefer something that writing i can be informed and see whether you westward any questions or not to read a report a pretty lengthy report i understand from what i hear the justification is why the system you think that

working i'm disappointed for what we put a lot time in the eis intervention system and the recommendations we've not made any of the recommendations we have in 2015 one and 56 officers had alerts in the eis and two officers had 8 alerts and others 5 alerts despite 9 officers received an intervention and 90 none are aimed at the officers he hear that's a good indicator i'm concerned about the assault and why they're not under there in 2014 a quarterly report indicating from 2009 we started using the eis there were 42 interventions out of 2000 plus and when you gave the report last year in 2015 this was no report you gave the report from the spring of last year i can't

remember only have people are koeltd that was the red flag that went you up what is this doing are you meeting and turned out you're not reporting to us in 2015 and start to report in 2016 and pull it together i'm disappointed i want something in writing want to be informed i can't tell from the report whether or not you answered any questions one of the questions he had rather than tell me we need an audit but an expert to tell us what is wrong i want to know you what you heard is wrong with that, i have nothing to check off you talked quicker i'm not good at shorthand i i don't think that is working well but can't hear anything that is working well, i don't know why we're paying money for an expert we've not decided when that is

working or not and we should hold do into that i don't know why we need an expert to tell us those are good indicators i bought that line i helped put it together and bought the first lines are the sergeants and now it is the sergeants only the sergeants making the decision this should be a command staff member lieutenant in that a captain and the accessibility we shouldn't leave it to the line supervisor that works on a daily basis no matter how much we say a early intervention the rank and file see the sergeant as a disciplinary system and that is reflective of who is how many times people are being counseled people are afraid to get them the real council they need and

the other thing the public brought up we need to fix it so people we can catch the people that are doing the crime and the texting to catch that as well i'm sorry, i can't respond of everything you've said i'm disappointed i waited a a long time for this report i can't respond in a meaningful manner and i'm going to take mr. alden reports and then - come to the commissioners questions. >> thank you

captain. >> before. >> can we get a copy of what you read. >> let's let mr. alden gives his report and then we'll take it from there. >> commissioner president turman and commissioner vice president mazzucco and members of the commission chief scott deputy chief francisco and a members of the public first, let me say i hope i can answer all our questions it's been difficult with that said, this is a very important issue i welcome the conversation per and i hope any presentation helps you get to a point to achieve direction tonight. >> chief scott and i have not met it is a pleasure to meet meet you by way of introduction i've been an attorney in the san francisco ethics commission for the last 8 years for the last 7

and a half working in internal affairs but i switched to the department of police affordability with director hicks and i've been working there with disciplinary cases and policy issues like this one and as a result i've had opportunity to be around and close to the e i s 0 so this is a learning process i have a power point that is on the screen i believe that commissioners have a copy i'd like to briefly walk you through that, please don't hesitate to interrupt me. >> i don't think you have a problem there. >> yes, sir. >> the official of overview are as follows: we were asked by commissioner dejesus and her finally question into last fall to explain what question

building might be useful with respect to the eis recommends are 4 first, we need to have a definition and measurement of what eis success is we certainly have ideas and ultimately that direction will probably need to come from the commission respectfully, and, secondly, once we achieve that understanding this is a field that is needed study to evaluate whether or not we're achieving the goals there are improvements to the system that can be made i don't know if we have consensus - whether or not we're accomplishing the goals we've

put together. >> so as you heard from captain welch we have a intervention system and become a standard tool amongst departments that the blood or under gotten the doj there are several departments using one phenomena or another of eis in 2007 as commissioner dejesus knows from her work most but not all the models implemented since that time with the doj .9 as commissioner dejesus some parts are not implement i'll get into the detail i do think the challenge we have seen from the presentation from captain welch and the presentation i'm giving no consensus about how to change it to be more successful one thing i'll note about that

from my experience working with the police department the system we had prior to 2007 one i've not seen or seen the documents has been described by people that said they're around at the time that was driven inspirational by sergeants or lieutenant at the station level noticing problem were given a great deal of data and responsible for figuring out out the patterns one strength of the system is central listed point i'll agree with captain - but it is incredible important to look at the data we're tracking to figure out an activity to flag perhaps the field supervisor might not notice those are useful and needs to be

supported our currently current eis model it supposed to flag the officers. intervene for that reason - as we cancer the indicators not future as captain welch mentions some departments that will think that the officer respond to the call of a suicide has an affect on the officer that can cause problems for the officer later on if they're not given the right support not misconduct by the officer but the factor that causes one to pay attention to the officer all the thought factors we should be tracking in the eis none of them necessarily show misconduct some maifsht in that regard one of the th