>> america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> commissioner president turman i'd like to call roll please do secretary sergeant killshaw commissioner president turman commissioner vice president mazzucco commissioner marshall commissioner dejesus commissioner melgar commissioner president turman you have quorum and also with us the chief of police william scott and the decoration of department of police accountability director hicks. >> ladies and gentlemen, of

the public citizens of san francisco welcome to the wednesday, february 1, 2017, meeting the san francisco police commission we have along with us a long agenda and jump into it the first item on the squanders is gives me great pleasure i've had the honor and it gets better one of the finest things that i think we've done as a commission and speaks for all the commissioners and consortium commissioner president loftus when he say welcome to meet and greet the public in the first police commission meeting and i'm going to turn it over to you for your report welcome chief bill scott. >> (clapping.) >> thank you, commissioners

commissioner president turman and thank you for police commissioners. >> good evening i want to introduce myself first of all, gives me great pleasure to be here as the chief of police of the city and county of san francisco this is really a dream come true to be living in this great city and appointed as the chief of police of that great police commission we have a lot of champs ahead as part of any research in the city i've studied. >> licensed to a lot of the police commission hearings that have taken place in the past and heard the public's voice in terms of what the public wants of me as your chief of police i'll do any best to take those ideals that the public wants and help this department continue to move forward in a 21st century

policing agency techld and i'll begin the report. >> i'll - do you want me to read that. >> chief i want to make a quick announcements during public comment i'm finding given the length of the agenda the number of citizens who will be making public comment will be limited to two minutes. >> please proceed. >> do you want me to read the item into the record. >> okay sorry item one report to the commission discussion one a chief report on recent police activities with the current trends and announcement presentation with the department work with the task force presentation of the fourth

quarter 2016 finding and recommendations and ois investigative summary. >> thank you. >> i'll start with the recent activities that was a very busy weekend we had a number of things around the country and the city of san francisco to be which have order that was signed at the san francisco international airport on saturday, january 28th approximately 1 hundred protesters at the airport protesting they were arrived via bart and personal vehicles around 2:00 p.m. and congregated on the lower radio roadway and blocked customs a and d exits customs and board patrol used the section area b.c. to manage that crowd between the midnight shift of

officers from the san francisco police department arrived to help with the crowd management our basic goal to of fascists the people 40 who voiced their concerns and fwrugsz called for a mutual aid because of number of people that that protesting and approximately 11 o'clock the protesters plaintiff's next in order the international checkpoint and left at the 2 o'clock in the morning no arrests and on january sunday between 6:00 p.m. and actually around 8 o'clock there were 18 hundred to 25 hundred protesters it actually started at the succession in the morning with protesters at the international

checkpoint as they arrived other protesters arrived they moved through checkpoint a the crowd grew if 5 hundred by 8 o'clock e 10 o'clock the crowd was nine hundred and the protesters went to the federal parking level in front of customs exit d one in the federal section and the second by the parking lot checkpoint our san francisco police department pd unit arrived to manage the protest again was peaceful for the most part they lined in the investigation area at the 2:30 the protesters began to push the barricades but our posture to keep it as safe as possible while allowing the individuals to exercise their first amendment no injuries and no

arrests 1 the terminal was closed by the was closed by tsa and the officers were deployed in international terminal 3 in order to move prevent the crowd from moving into terminal 3 by the wanted to make sure we had the operations continue and people were allowed to get on the flight tomorrow from the airport the crowd left at the 2 o'clock and no injuries and arrests associated with the protests move on to the crime in terms of our crime this year we've had 6 homicides year to date as compared to one year the date wooekdz to stem that there are

58 total homicides in 2016 compared to 52 our fatality and non-fatality to date are 12 and fatality 2016 were 11 so we're one above where we were this time last year the fatality negative declaration 2016 were one and 89 we see 70 fire alarms year to date and 2016 the total number of fire alarms was one thousand plus as opposed to to one thousand 85 in 2013 i'll discuss about the major crimes we had homicide with a curtains at 4 hundred of mission 4501 in the ingleside no arrests and the summary on january 29, 2015, at

about 713 in the evening officers respond to the area of mission and excelsior regarding a report avenue stabbing on arrival the found a male victim and immediately rendered aid the paramedics transported the victim but the victim was deceased at the hospital we interviewed witnesses and cameras that were located near and the video was retrieved no oars were made but the homicide unit is investigating we have to work on that case and the second homicide was 638 armstrong no arrests at that location and the summary on january approximately

1238 they went to armstrong avenue on arrival the officers located a male victim in the seat suffering from a gunshot wound the medics arrived and transported the victim to the san francisco general, however, the victim was pronounced deceased several witnesses were interviewed and surveillance camera was gotten and the video has been reviewed no arrests have been made on that case as well but we have evidence and hope to make an arrest on that case our response to the homicides has been and will be as follows: the district captains reached out to the community to get information and basically keep the community aware avenue what is guilty or not guilty in their community the beat officers will engage

with the communities we've increased the patrols where the homicides have occurred and have also support from a special motorbike and have the bureau task force that will support the officers they're the police officers unit the other major incident a shooting in the mission district not made an arrest it occurred an january 26, 2017, at tenseness p.m. officers romanced to the area regarding a shooting locked one male victim with 3 shshdz and summoned an ambulance and transported the person to

the san francisco general and the person walked into san francisco general and the preliminary investigation interviewed revealed both victims were in the aersz of 26 street when an unknown suspect shot at p them, no arrests have been made the task force is investigating the next shooting at the 250 leavenworth in the tenderloin no arrests have been made it occurred an january 29, 2017, at 348 in the morning a.m. officers responded to the area of las vegas worthy regarding a victim poonl arrival a male had a shotgun wound and medics transported the victim to san francisco general and he is listed in stable condition the victim was shot by two suspects

unknown but provided descriptions we had several surveillance cameras and that is being investigated and video retrieved and the initial investigation is going on the last shooting i'll talk about occurred on fulsome street in the mission district this was resulted in an arrest warrant of a jewel the circumstances on 2016 at 9:22 p.m. the officers responded to the area of 3050 fulsome regarding a shotgun they were met by the witnesses that had a description of the suspect based on the witness statement 3 superintendents were contained

they were in caesar chavez when the suspect shot at them, no injuries the officers located eves bullet casings a reported check one the suspect had an active warrant robbery the s i team are investigating two other incidents i'll share with you one in the mission district where we made an arrest that occurred friday january 27th at the 16th street and mission the suspect and victim got syndrome a altercation and the victim was stabbed in the chest the mission station observed the transmissions and took the suspect into custody he was in critical but stable condition and the second stabbing the

central district an january 28th in geary our victim was standing in front of a bar waiting on his girlfriend he was stabbed and the officers took the suspect into custody and is in stable condition last thing to report in the mission district we had a recent spike of gang violence in the shooting in and around the housing development and captain is meeting with the residence to some of the things i've mentioned the gang support task and the tactical unit we have leads on the suspect responsible we are working to solve 80s crimes and working with the crime task force the traffic summary a collision at the 7,

5:10 p.m. on january 28th on treasure island for fourth street ran a stop sign one passenger in one of the vehicles sustained injuries and the other had chest injuries remains in stable condition that's it for the crime report now we have deputy chief that will report on the task force report. >> good evening chief and folks. >> yes. >> commissioner president

turman before we start this item i'd like to announce the department issued a press release regarding the joint task force that was not distributed in the commission until the start of meeting they'll make that available online tomorrow there are copies available for the public on the table. >> excuse me - would you like the substance of this. >> the joint terryism task for force. >> i'm head of the- i'm here to introduce the officer and give a brief summary of the 2016 annual report and include his supervision over the joint

terrorism and the officers and day to day operations i will follow-up with some remarks they end in regards to the press release and how the department will move forward with the joint task force and i'll ask connor to come up. >> chief o'connor. >> good evening commissioner president turman commissioners, chief scott and director joyce hicks i'm the officer in charge the special investigations i receive the folks assigned to the task force i'll talk about the calendar year 2016 thank you for your time in regards to staffing equipment and salary as of january 1st,

2016, one sfpd officer was assigned to the task force on or about january 25, 2016, one additional officer was detailed to the task force excuse me. for the remainder of 2016 the two officers were signed assigned to the j.t. cf they paid the salaries for the officers in 2016 a full-time sf employee worked 2000 plus hours a year the officers issued safety and communication equipment the federal bureau of investigation provided the vehicles as well as office workspace and provided overtime expenses in regards to training the sfpd members assigned to the task force are transcribed a and aware of the policies that regard the j.t. operations the sfpd officers assigned are

trained regarding all general orders but doj guidelines for the first amendment and the policy pro bono biasness and as part of j.t. t f they've been trained with the sfpd video there are also trained on the bureau order 2011 danish 5 to bureau order regarding the terrorism task force additionally the officers assigned to the j f t t f with the civil rights ordinance the training records are maintained with the special investigations division and recently audit by the occ as part of their audit the fbi is aware of the requirements mandated at jc t t

f standards by those policies supervision or supervision maintenance the inclines with the programs and policies in regards to command structure the j.t. t f officers work in the sfpd their immediate supervisor is me the officer in charge of the special investigations division i report to the commander of investigations who reports to the doorstep chief the operations who reports to the deputy chief this is for this year one additional chain in the command while assigned the officers report to an fbi supervisor agent of ss a they report to the specialized agent in charge that reports to the special agent in charge the sfpd members assigned

to the j.t. cf are assigned to the bureau order in the save civil rights ordinance as reviews are are conducted regularly the y t t f members review those with the supervisors me the over - the officers also have weekly daily contracontact with me the occ in regards to the officer responsibility in 2016 the primary role of the officers to establish a liaison and fatality the federal, state, and local agencies involved in the j.t. t f the sharing of the information which has a potential impact on public safety sfpd officers assigned to the j.t. t f work on missions it

identify terror plots and prevent the attacks and investigate the violent crime possibly related to terrorism the sfpd officers have conducted assessments and provided security for special evident event in san francisco including by the time to breakers and outlands, san francisco marathons and bluegrass and fleet week and pride events and halloween and new years eve and in addition the sfpd members were an integral part if security planning and verifying threats with superbowl 50 and the nfl experience superbowl 50

drew many people to the gathering and activities including superbowl city a large portion of densely population on market street with the plaza the financial district and the embarcadero the significant portion of soma, south of market was impacted by the nfl venue at the moscone center and the crowds they drew those events kr5e9d public safety concerns due to the large crowds and the international notoriety and attention they attracted narsdz to the number of cases the sfpd members detailed were assigned to 54 cases in addition to those cases the j.t. f f were assigned 60 duty one or more cases

those cases involved individuals who were considered by the fbi to be in danger based on information indicating those persons had been named and target by terrorist organizations the j.t. t f officers don't have the names of people involved in those cases the sfpd is not able to release the members names as this will compromise the security and safety of the members no member of the sfpd assigned to the j.t. t f was used to perform undercover work in 2016 nor were 31 this year any questions made sfpd j.t. t f officers don't manage performance more conduct casework the department is briefed on the cases dmvpt and

on a constant base to make sure they're with side programs and policies and statements of law as required by the ordinance in 2016 there were no investigations that fell under this reporting requirement the status of doj requests was submitted to this commission on a monthly basis that the document was reviewed and signed by a police commissioner with the police commission commissioners looking at the general log general order 810 was reviewed in january of 2015 by the occ as part of their annual 2016 d go audit 810 audit the document is retained by me in the special investigation division in regards to

suspicious activity reporting sfpd submitted suspicious reports or stars as they're known to the northern california regional center those reports consist of suspicious activities based on preindicators with a nexus to krinltz it is a recipient as other law enforcement agencies sfpd officers have investigated cases consistently of bomb threats, polk material involving weapons of mass destruction suspicious activities of landmark and other criminal activity with essential terrorist those are provided from sfpd and other law enforcement agencies the private sector and members of the public private sector partners involve

local businesses and empower and health care and mass transit technically their familiar and comply with the go for suspicious activity is not recorded as religion profiles they have handled the information from citizens and other law enforcement agencies and private entities suspicious activity is bomb treats threats to life, threats to property and suspicious photos and critical infrastructure, and suspicious activities as identified by reporting authorities sfpd members j.t. t f does not jaem

gave me in protected activities that are against. >> lieutenant what do you draw from d request go the words solely involving constitutional issues where do you draw that standard from i don't see that standard in 8 point one. >> it was simply an observation none the investigations are solely in any way just on first amendment activities. >> that's not what is the d go says it says involving not solely okay. >> yes, sir. >> that needs to be corrected going forward there is a solution but i'll let the chief adjust that. >> mr. president, on that issue lieutenant just a clarify

there were 54 cases side-by-side are you saying that none of the 54 cases involved first amendment. >> i don't believe that any of the 54 cases fell under d go as it exists no. >> as it exists the d go 10 covers cases that involve first amendment not necessarily solely are with respect to a constitutional right i wanted to i'm asking to repeat this of 54 cases none of them involved the first amendment. >> right sir i don't believe that the investigations - they

didn't solely involve. >> that's not what i'm asking you. >> that's not the standard i was using to be clear. >> well, i actually think that is the wrong standard as well that's not how i read it and i'm sorry lieutenant continue on we'll get back to that. >> yes, sir. >> sfpd members i'm sorry sfpd members conduct the investigations with terrorist activity the subject photos may have sensitive mass trait areas and elected critical infrastructure in regards to correspondence and collaboration regarding the sfpd j.t. t f throughout 2016 the

sfpd has worked collaboratively with community-based organization with the asian law caucus the council on islamic relations and the civil liberty units brought forth by those o the sfpd command staff has met regularly and incorporated and coordinated the involvement with the representative the sfpd and the fbi the efforts are ongoing and include the training component for sfpd j.t. t f officers numerous letters were exchanged to take actions to alleviate the concerns brought forth it appears that all parties involved have agreed to the importance of effort of officers assigned to j.t. t f and

concerns remain the sfpd is condominium to public safety and fulfilling this roll in preventing and investigating criminal activities chief bratton. >> i want to reiterate what lieutenant o'connor said we've been meeting with members of the community and different organizations and have had a lot of meetings in discussion about the department mou the field operations bureau that exists exist and today we decided to issue a press release i think everyone has a copy we had a mou a memorandum of understanding that was signed in 2007 and once

we come up on a 10 year timeframe of an mou it has to go back to the board of supervisors should be revised i agree we should look at something after 10 years so many things can change obviously over that amount of time the other thing as part of administrative code obviously police commission is the body of the programs and policies for us we will have to work collaboratively with you on developing and possibly looking at the general orders 810 that will effect us so the department plans an updating the general order that effects immigration and things like that we're committed to community policing that's shown in the general orders in the meeting over the last year and we want to work collaboratively with the shareholders with the work begins on the general orders

once it is adopted the department may consider renegotiating an mou with the j.t. t f with the fbi only after seeking guidance from this body as of today we've suspended our operation of the joint terrorism task force. >> (clapping.) >> but i think everyone knows we have a full commitment to the safety public safety to the citizens and everyone and continue to work diligently to keep the city save and look forward to going forward o moving forward on that tactic and getting things done. >> before we start commissioners questions or comments chief anything else you want to add. >> just a reiterate thank you, chief and the last press release

talks about the assurance of public safety and there will be some questions about what how this impacts public safety i want to insure the public we're committed to public safety and we're doing everything we can to protect the public and can't refulfills that enough i think that chief bratton says it all in terms of right now move forward with the joint terrorism task force thanks. >> before you we get the commissioner questions or comments i'm going to invite under crew up to the podium one i'm trying to short circuit so we understand there have been community concerns and mr. crews has been raising those concerns and he did i'm going to give him

about 5 minutes to summarize what those issues are you think that is important for the record and turn it the commissioners questions so we understand. >> thank you, commissioner i'll in light of that news trying to be brief and not use the entire 5 minutes my name is john crew. >> i'm sorry one second to be clear on the record mr. crew is part of a record i want to make sure the report is clear for that purpose. >> i'm a retired attorney worked with the aclu on the issues and a author of the 810 many years ago speaking for myself i working closely with the caucus and aclu rather than too much detail i want to make a few observations number one proud of san francisco we've

lead the way and standing up from the threat of donald trump our mayor is on board and board of supervisors and see the police department. >> no clapping folks. >> i will try not to have any our pause lines that so important because i want to reiterate what the chief said about public safety i think that town understand the greatest gift to the public safety way of life not what donald trump calls radical terrorism this is the right move to make thank for not applauding that protects our relationship with the police department and i think that is for the comments were made about the involved standard of d go

not only applies to the police department it is critical the head of the division began involved didn't mean don't protect public safety you have to have reasonable suspicion and use the protocols and that's what the discussions have been about we also found problems with with sanctuary or inquired as part of the progress to protect the sanctuary and there is problems with profiling we've protected our laws and standing up for san francisco values i'm proud but thoobd i want to observe this you know those have not been easy issues the very first police commission of chief suhr was a joint meeting with the board of supervisors chavrmz with the human rights commission and the announcement was an

order that bureau order to say comply with all orders here we are with chief scott and dealing with that issue i'm glad there's been a pause the president said let's figure out what the hell is going on stop trump a long history of diligence gathering in san francisco we need to be realistic the fbi will be asking of donald trump thank you to the department all the time that was spent i'm concerned that the press release talked about the ab ability of the ordinance is clear that is what the ordinance says no doubt about that my suggestion is also that you make clear what you're leaving tonight our you're not going to reenter without pubically discussing that that would be bad faith part of history of the issue we found out there was a

secret mou we find out that was a joint and it is important we be open and lastly the process in terms of reviewing and updating 810 he strongly encourage you to use the process again, you've used to create 810 this police commission appointed a committee to work two the predecessor chief will casey and the human rights and aclu and others i think that will be be a federal process tshgsz or thank you for your time and leadership thank you. >> all right. commissioner you have questions or comments. >> mr. president. >> i don't have a button. >> commissioner hing. >> thank you i wonder if i ask, ask the lieutenant o'connor or i'm not

sure who to direct this question i'm particularly concerned i'm going back a different question rather than the 54 cases my understanding how this works is what the 54 cases there was an inquiry of whether or not there was reasonable suspicion that a person's status check was done is is that correct? >> lieutenant o'connor looked at that. >> the officers who were assigned to the j.t. t f with abandoning clear san francisco skaurngs not to participate in immigration status that was reviewed by me on a regular basis that self-occur in my of the cases.

>> a personal status check was not used in my of the 54 cases those officers didn't participate in anything related to immigration. >> so to digress maybe i can't answer this question in other activities of the department is there of a person status check that is performed. >> to your knowledge not related to j.t. t f. >> not that i'm aware of of anything else. >> this gentleman is in favor of the j.t. t f. >> i understand. >> maybe chief redd man. >> commissioners in my officers work with an outside entity that needed to be approved through the chain of command to me if it occurred it would not be approved. >> the reason it wouldn't be

approved a clear violation of the sanctuary order. >> that's correct. >> thank you. >> any other commissioner questions. >> commissioner dejesus. >> i really you know, i really want to thank you for working with the aclu and the communities in collaborative in terms of getting to the bottom of issue i think that training is an issue all the years i've been here i've been told we have training we have trainees i guess i was a little bit concerned i saw a response earlier today there is so ma allegations i didn't release we're not on the same page in terms of the standard one of the officers the complaint was filed against said it was not solely

first amendment and not the word solely the next time we need to be on the same page of what it actually means in the report it says we have training and according i take everything with a grain of salt by according to the dialogue and aclu it indicates that the officers just read the bulletins and read the d go and interpreted that themselves and the video was introduced so going forward we need to look at we're on on the same page we have train so everyone is clear what the definition is and how it relates and certainly with the we can - be in our benefit to work with our partners and putting the video training together 0 it is

crystal clear i'm happy we're pulling out and going forward and addressing the issues that are ongoing issue for 10 years i think we got to the bottom and going forward we need to address the issue. >> commissioner in our meeting we'll make the community part of that we need to get to the right place before we start that. >> thank you. >> i wanted to say first of all, i appreciate the work that of the j.t. t f protecting citizens both ways includes the citizens may be wrong fully treated are sewer validated that certainly in the letter and

spirit of ordinance and the d go there are serious concerns raised by the letter and first of all, i appreciate and want to say that chief scott looked at that and made decisive moves he know you engaged in meaningfully conversations with the police commission and other folks in the department and i think that it is the right decision at this point we need to seek j.t. t f participation i've not personally and i don't know of any other commissioners discussed with chief scott how we plan if there is any plan o to reinitiate and look at the d go it applies broader and we need to make sure interests

understanding about that d go and training on both the security and the training on what we mean by written 30 years ago what is prohibited and not prohibited and take the steps immediately i'm speaking for myself i've had the conversations with my chief and i know the department is going to support him on that with that, let's moved in a much more collaborative way before we reinitiate we need to have some type of public announcement and participation and voice on the we are going to ever rejoin the j.t. t f what will be required and the citizens of san francisco think i'm one voice not the entire commission. >> commissioner melara. >> i want to go to the issue

we have also the public thinking what are we're going to do to insure the protection of the city and what i'll be the first one to say profiling are violating our sanctuary policies in the city i'd like us to really look at what are we're going to do moving forward because san francisco is a target city you know it is - we are the middle of the map and really vulnerable and so i would like for us to think that way while we're going to protect every right in the city we'll not leave the city defenseless. >> i think that is our goal to strike a balance it is a concern of mine everyday the safety of the city and you

know we're going to have to strike a balance that's our job. >> thank you commissioner president turman i spoke with the chief regarding this and worked with mr. crew and the asian law caucus we were discussing the issue of working with the joint task force part of the agreement we reached was to make it clear to the public our officers were only working on investigations involving the violation of appeal code or the united states appeal code i promised the community to have trust how things are handled on the odds of the federal building you know having been a former u.s. attorney i thought things were handled correctly, however, the community didn't trust what is happened we as a police

commission have given it went and seen what has happened he i have to tell you i don't see the fbi or the u.s. attorney here but our role as that the police commission to respond to the community i think you as is audience we've heard and listening chief for the last week and events transpired i fully support this division by a chief of police thank you for that. >> dr. marshall. >> my only comment i think the facts speaks for itself and this has come up in the past we have to have a participation in the j.t. t f agreement crafting a new general order we should all everybody will agree with this i think we should all be harden by the fact we put

together 3 general orders from the cameras to the use of force and have a lot of great minds in the room i'm sure we'll have something almost 100 percent will be able to moved in if critical climate let's get to work. >> anything else chief. >> no, sir. >> next item. >> and ladies and gentlemen, this but we want our comments and participation so, please know there is an overflow room 416 is open and being used at the moment so, please feel free to go to the overflow room this is being presented there as we

speak. >> hello deputy chief. >> good evening commissioner president turman and commissioner vice president mazzucco and commissioners chief scott and members of the public i'm chief hector i oversee the risk management office that concludes administrator investigations in officer-involved shooting and sergeant from the internal foyers will talk about the review board report sergeant. >> good evening commissioner president turman and commissioners director joyce hicks and chief scott i'm sergeant john i'm assigned to the internal affairs and work with the officer-involved shooting investigations team i'll give a report on a couple

of things tonight astounded we'll be talking about summarizing the last firearm discharge review board the fourth quarter for the review board and the status of open officer-involved shooting investigations so the will have i believe in our packets the letter from intern chief scott that recaps the firearm discharge review board for the fourth quarter two cases that were the investigations were completed and presented o i d both

discharges officer-involved discharge considered the officer was reloading a personal firearm no injuries that was a finding of not in police and a training recommendation officer-involved discharge 516 on september 26th in a private residence that was during a high search warrant the officers were assigned and conducted did search and one officer trying to activity a firearm with a flashlight the mr. walton was in an unoccupied closet not in policy findings. >> for the first time since the general order was adopted we've had a couple of into

custody death cases to present to a into custody board two cases that were presented and again, you'll have this letter dated december 28th if chief chaplin that covers that in more specifics did cased casing one was a case it occurred on november 2012 the da charging decision was dated february 4, 2016, and the final homicide report was completed to close the investigation in august of 2016 so in this particular case an office on parole near golden gate park encountered someone

appeared to be it under the influence the drugs and they closed fulsome street and a physical alteration induced the officers ultimately 5 officers responded to the scene attempting physical holds to sub due the suspect and get medical aid at one time he lifted all 5 officers they get an ambulance but the subject went into cardiac arrest and passed away on november 30th as a result of acute drug intoxicate that was a finding of in policy ic d was october 10, 2014, it

occurred on the 11 hundred block of larkin street a scientist called a 5150 evaluation at the same time 9-1-1 saw a bloody naked man two unit responded again, a physical struggle enconfused they attempted to get the subject i subject retrained paramedics administrative code a set active the subject went into cardiac arrest and pronounced dead the findings was cardiac arrest that was a finding in policy. >> do you have any contact contact with the officers when the subject encountered the

naked bloody subject. >> what - thou obviously attempted to use something that was not effective there e yes there was contact with him but physical restraints physical controls they attempted to get him - >> it was noted here with physical contact. >> do you have a better idea so go ahead give me a better idea of physical constraints. >> hand restraint to attempt getting him medical treatment and get him to an ambulance when the ambulance arrived they administered a seductive and he went into cardiac arrest. >> were they restraining him. >> the ambulance was staged it was not long by the time there is was a struggle to get him controlled and the ambulance was

already there when they had him. >> the next the first quarter of 2017 scheduled march 2016 that is tentative waiting for a confirmation and the status of officer-involved shootings investigations this seems like district attorney gentleman have you the first day quarter was detailed several times since the third quarter report there was a new ois that was opened on january 25th, 2017, as of january 24, '13 of

the cases the criminal investigations are recorded by the sfpd and the harasses are waiting for the district attorney's office those are listed in the separate report two criminal investigations with active that the sfpd with the district attorney and/or with the chairman itself criminal investigation was completed by the officer is incapacitated. >> so just to recap overseeing cases the 2014 on that slide i believe you have the list of cases all those cases except for 1500 six the other cases with waiting for charging from the da

15006 is tolling per 3304 of the federal code the remaining cases other remaining cases 1603 was opened october 15, 2016, and one was a january 6, 2018-2019 are active the others are waiting for a decision from the da questions for sergeant. >> commissioners. >> thank you sergeant i'm sorry. >> i think. >> commissioner dejesus. >> i don't know that is a question i raised before i think i'll raise it again maybe not a question but i still think that we should have community

represents on the fir discharge so maybe the new issues we can talk about that i don't think that is there any law we have a lot of consultants that sign culture agreement we have do that for background at the cops program i'll raise that and put that on an agenda item to be discussed we need the representation on that board thank you. >> commissioner that's within the remedies by the d o g and we'll be looking at that when we look at updating the general order on the firearm and discharge review board. >> thank you. >> okay. >> any further questions. >> next item, please. >> item 1-b dpa on that dpa

activities and presentation of dpa 2016 first amendment compliance audit pursuant to the general order. >> good evening director hicks. >> good evening commissioner president turman and commissioner vice president mazzucco and commissioners chief scott members of the public the dpa is no right activity to report this evening, however, we have a report on our first amendment compliance audit i'd like to thank deputy chief balthazar for his work on the audit as well as attorney john alden and sam for presenting the report and she will deliver the report this evening. >> good evening. >> good evening commissioner

president turman commissioner vice president mazzucco and commissioners chief scott welcome director hicks members of the public it is my pleasure to give this report on 810 we obviously there is some discussion about that in terms of the joint terrorist task force every year our agency is required to provide an audit i want to spent a lot of time to talk about the requirement under 810 the results of our audit and made some recommendations i think are still pertinent as we move forward in terms of the requirements under 810 they've been discussion about what it is requirement and the requirement to conduct a criminal investigation needs to be an articulate and reasonable suspicion to building about is that person or organization planning criminal activity that could result in serious bodily injury and property damage over $2,000,500 or or a hate crime or

misdemeanor and that activity are relevant so not just sole first amendment but first amendment activities are involved, of course, we can there is a board range of first amendment freedom of speech and firemen of religion and the right to peacefully assembly in 810 in order for the police department to have the investigation the department is not reexcluded from the investigations there are written requirements and authorizations and oversight the police department is documenting the police commission look at the log of our agency the audit the paperwork a misrepresent process for the first amendment activities the written authorization involves where the officer is stating the facts and

circumstances that give rise to the articulateable suspicion the investigation needs to occur and needs to be documents what the first amendment activities and the identity of the individual the focus of the investigations and then an authorization process where the head of the special investigations division as well as the deputy chief as well as the chief of police makes sure the documents is in order multiple reviews and as you may know the police commission looked at that paperwork so this year we conducted our audit as every year and filed a report as every year we filed that report on friday that is available to the public and part of what i'll going over the results this is an audit we are requesting the police department to provide us records our audited the records that the police department provides us of the records the

police department stated no records of investigation authorized under 810 we were told no records of investigations denied no records of undercover officers pursuant to that 810 during the year in records of unlawful activities beyond the scope of the letter and no prosecution thought letters concerning the public records requests two, that has to do with with the i ms some information was provided on one of the requests the other one resulted in a denial another part of audit was to again if you look at 810 listed the kinds of documents from the department any of the agency forms and so we were provided 4 records and there were 4 investigations that

involved outside agencies we summarized what those agencies were part of audit involved where their violations of 810 and in that regard we found a violation during 2006 where we had a complaint from the previous year which concluded our investigations next year this year this year when we interviewed the officers in terms of what the standard for conducting an 810 investigation the standard he believed he was following was he was preconcluded from the investigations that were solely based on first amendment activity we in looking at what the standard was much different than that it is a criminal investigation that involves first amendment activities we found that the conduct the training was not was the cause

of problem we conducted a training failure in that case which gives rise to our report underscores the needs for a need for correction some of the recommendations if in our report number one to require immediate appliance with 810 so that the correct suicide standard is provided for all officers and the immediate training in the recommendations we recommend the department bulletin is issued to provide the correct standard for 810 it is not complicated by misrepresent stepped up to the plate and anytime a criminal investigation regarding first amendment and a series of documentation and authorization that is required so we're recommending an immediate department bulletin that lays out those requirements there be immediate training and that the

train the department has from 2000 not post 9/11 but scenarios officers wasn't test their knowledge on whether the conduct fails under 810 and the other recommendations has to do with with most certainly heard about the j.t. t f and the participation in that but 810 goes beyond the j.t. t f to resolve the issues as part of our recommendations someone from the commission assist with the projects that have to move forward in terms of meeting with us and meeting are stakeholder and revisions to the training and the light to the commission or appoint someone we can move more rapidly on moving forward that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions.

>> thank you for your report just so you know that commissioner hing has volunteered to see that will be precipitating with you any other questions for the commission. >> commissioner dejesus i'm sorry. >> so you kind of answered it in a way the years we've been here we've not seen written authorization now the communities and you have participated with the department found out we have their have a totally different interpretation how their applying the general order - how would you suggest like - in terms of training going forward i mean how would you suggest that you make that clear the authorization has to be obtained and whether if their endowed or have a question we've not seen the authorization and the fbi said they contain the

first amendment. >> in part to divide the department bulletin and has works and done the bulletins they've given examples how the examples of an investigate under 810 and the multiple kind of scenarios that fail under 810 i'll recommend to do a video training is an important aspect that conveys the meaning of 810 and enables the officers to testism some are immediate the department goals will be immediate versus roll call training and the video training will it takes time. >> and the last thing i'll say you're talking about you mentioned about the d go a new d go but revising the d go.

>> brarpz if there's aspects there was confusion about the standard perhaps to clarify that i think most certainly they've been a lot of thought and history to the requirements and most civil grand jury wanted to make sure the requirements that exists under 810 from our perspective make sure there is compliance with the requirements they had multiple layers of oversight and the ability to protect first amendment activities and also at the same time conducting important investigations i don't see a complete revision but there are things that need to be in turned so be it. >> thank you. >> i'm sorry yes go ahead. >> thank you commissioner president turman can you, you alluded to the need of a department bulletin is that right?

>> yes. that's right. >> is that something your office been drafting. >> that will be something from the chief of police sign and issue. >> i see. >> but - i'm sorry which - who is the individuals you're working with. >> i'm sorry. >> who the members of the department you're working with on the issues. >> in the past i've worked with an assistant chief sign on the departmental bulletins. >> i hope that you and chief sign and commissioner dejesus get together as soon as possible to begin ironing out some of the facility issues for solutions to the chef and happens to be a department order let's recognize that if so it immediate all right. >> thank you so much. >> thank you

any other questions. >> director hicks. >> yes. commissioner president turman that concludes our report. >> okay commission concert next item. >> item one c president's report and commissioners report. >> i have no report this evening. >> commissioners. >> i participated in the march. >> i participated in the women's march which i understand was very peaceful and created very little disturbance. >> i want to commend the chief and the department on the handling of the airport situation i have many colleagues were out there observing and they will confirm with our report thanks.

>> all right. >> all right. >> any other commissioners report? next item. >> item one d commissions and scheduling the items for future meeting action. >> all right. so commissioner melara. >> yeah. he brought up this item in the past but i think that we need to discuss some of the rules and procedures and responsibilities as - because as we work with a new chief it is important for us to understand the responsibility we have that i bans any previous commission experience we've not followed this commission i would like for us to really discuss that so we moved in a more clear way. >> to that point there was not too long ago a commission order of a schedule of reports and

responsibilities to the year through the calendar year we need to follow more rigorly i was reviewed with the commission skeet and put it out to the rest of the commissioners and certainly will be part of retreat that we will be going to it is definitely within our thoughts to get on a better track and to complete our responsibility in a much anymore organized - and just as an immediate thing i want to make sure we pay attention to the sunshine ordinance - i've seen a couple of e-mails back and forth where all commissioners were cc on the e-mail we want to make sure that the people understand the commissioners are not authorized to communicate

with each other you know negative impact that manner so if any there are any questions the city attorney can let us know. >> may i ask you mr. president, is that the kingsley document you're referring to. >> (laughter). i remember that thank you >> any other commission items for scheduling okay. >> next speaker, please. >> commissioner we need public comment on items one a through d. >> read the public comment. >> oh, i'm sorry is that general public comment on items one a through one d. >> first member of the public please.

>> good evening director the foundation i'd like to congratulate the department on doing the right thing he rarely get to say that with the drawing of j.t. t f mou and like to encourage the department not to renew the mou as long as a such an unbelievable and dangerous staff in washington i have deep concerns about the imposed discrepancy concerning the general order 810 that warranties a comprehensive investigation into all cases that ever addressed under the sfpd interpreted didn't fit the general orders intent and meaning and also i would like to

question from the report with into custody death both cases seem to warrant the question of the task force both of - the mental health crisis and at the intervention task force they warrant the intervene off those personnel that was completely unclear in the presentation of those into custody deaths whether or not there was in any crisis intervention team involvement and i think that needs to be clarified and released to the public thank you. >> next member of the public please. >> good evening, everyone my name is christine an attorney at the asian law caucus and

working on sfpd issues since including but not limited to one i actually first acknowledge i'm happy of the news that sfpd has suspended participation with the joint task force, however, i recognize that didn't preclude sfpd from rejoin so i'll express my concerns the 3 requests of the commission one when the updating of general order occurs please make sure that is not weakened those protection are critical now with donald trump in office and absolutely incredible and two not joining the j.t. t f and 3 from the department rejoins only with proper training i reviewed the j.t. t f 2016 the compliance report once again we see that

the fbi standards rather than sfpd standards are quoted and with those many meetings allison park troubled to see that once again our department is quoting federal standards rather than our local standards they're completely different and it is important that as the dpa mentioned not just a j.t. t f that applies more brotherhood and trouble those standards are not followed so again, please make sure that 810 is not wraelgd weakened it only joins with proper training and not allow them to rejoin after the training and give serious consideration not rejoining the j.t. t f at all. >> thank you next member of the public. >> allen with the aclu i'm

happy to know the decision of the department a lot of talk about resistance to the trump administrations policies resistance took on a new meaning dianne feinstein said - in terms of the kind of values that san francisco stand for 3 jewels in the crown would think is the sanctuary city policy one is the use of force policy that you adapted, and d go is one of the jewels each one is in treat in personnel of the federal government i think what is remarkable what happened today that you didn't wait for something bad to happen you

actively stunned the participation and take into account the shortcomings i think outside the box as wonderful way to start chief scott reign not reign but (laughter) and i think that is shows the community and the stakeholders over the last year that your listening your work is not done i think everyone from the departments to the commission felt strongly about president obama task force on 21st century policing well, there will be a president trump on 19 century policing you'll have to resist that i'm confident you will thank you. >> good evening. >> good evening thank you, commissioners i'm brittany a civil rights attorney with care the san francisco bay chapter i appreciate the efforts of san

francisco police department to keep the city save and work with the community there announcement today that they that will be suspending collaboration with the j.t. t f we welcome this this is great news and thank you to the community for all the work to make that happen to make sure that san francisco is abiding by the laws and values given the recent action and conduct in the current administration is important that san francisco continues to be a leader in showing the city it's commitment to protecting the citizens and working with the community and not against it and this is a great step towards that we said this is the suspension and not a withdrawal we continue to work with the commissioners and the san francisco police department to make sure that these issues do not appear again and we're concerned about the training issue across the department that

was brought up several times tonight thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> commissioners my name is daniel i'm an attorney in san francisco and i submitted on behalf of the lgbt leaders of this city a letter in support of work of asian law caucus and aclu i want to read off the names to the community knows the strength of the lgbt community supervisor scott wiener and supervisor sheehy former senator leno and former supervisor campos and former angela and former commissioner peter trustee honorable tom nolan former chair

the sfmta and the reaping and former commissioner quinn e gwen and michael and kate the national center for lesbian rights and the individual freedom the green institute and pride law firm and rebecca and myself this is a very wide and very deep support in the lgbt community thank you for the commissioners and chief scott for your work to support and be vigilant for the values of the city for all to stay vigilante i'm glad to report this news back to the communities >> good evening. i'm reverend

i'm reading on behalf of the my friend who be here she was here but i'm reading here remark she had to leave a long time resident and lived here 19 years and teach as san francisco state university she wanted to be here at first, the students shared their feelings after the election but stoke of living in the state of california they felt they were safer given the sanctuary declarations that the city and state have made they were concerned about the radical shift in government that impacts our families and friends outside the state of california in the constitutional law class that she teaches students are born of immigrants parents come out of high school believing in the

democratic governs of the united states and come confident in the government and law that they are on their side and this is what their parents and teachers have always told them but with each pga day with the administration they're coming to learn the circus practices like the san francisco police department not come applying with the safe civil rights ordinance and the believe in the system have been crushed they can't focus in class and worried about their parent and friends and i'm going to turn it over there their usz citizens or not and stories of people carted address harassed unlawfully detained for looking at the way they look and their perceived as an enemy instead of protected by the law they're afraid at a level she's not seen

before. >> thank you for your comment i appreciate your words and appreciate you're talking about this but thank you i'm sorry thank you for your comments next speaker please. with the aclu of northern california former with the asian law caucus and decorates and chief thank you for the news we got today, i want to take a minute and respect the roles of the community hundreds if in the thousands of community members have been working 79 civil rights effort to hold the fbi accountable from the area i'm delighted to see we're renotifying this relationship completely and i just have a couple of asks of you guys as we

move forward reference to the mou might be renegotiated if that happens please include us the community members members of the south asian and the lgbt community all of us want to be able to talk about what and how this impacts our community directly paralleling under a trumpet administration and i'll say we been working working with you guys for 5 years this ordinance was passed in 2012, the police department has worked with us and met with us i'll ask maybe there should be an audit might be worthwhile understanding what why it was like pulling teeth and make sure that ordinances that apply to the stewardship and the rest of san francisco are implemented to get at the results we want thank you for your time i appreciate the work you guys have done.

>> nice to see you here again. >> thank you. >> next speaker please. hi there my name is oh, had i'm the member of the south asian taking action i work in fremont my daughter is an immigrant and i'm the daughter of a police officer i love being part of the community i book shows i organize the shower to the people a punk band of south asian and local openers from the city and oakland this is the most moving show with the expressions the kindness and care amongst the exists show dodgers and the citizens san francisco is a culture of minority and people from all

over. >> excuse me - >> i ask the san francisco police department to protect the safety of immigrants and the stop of profile and trumps orders to make sure that sfpd complies with the san francisco civil rights ordinance and please don't participate in you know continuing the joint terrorism tasking and i'm talk to you, please maintain us as a sanctuary city so we're not afraid to live here thank you. >> for - >> thank you. >> sir. >> i'm sorry ma'am. >> commissioners and chief my name is ann i'm a resident of so for for 17 years i also served

in the commission development i was appointed by mayor amusing and mayor ed lee my - i'm here to express my concern with the police department failure to work with the immigrants a at that particular time with the civil rights ordinance chief you may know in our historical research into the department there have been a number of criticize that have come to light issues of challenges and racist texting for reasons for the community not to trust the police in this vein it is important to hold the highest training and hearing the challenge about training one you clarified your standard is about

but even in hearing that i'm not a lawyer i i can't imagine someone that is an attorney can understand that. >> i'm a lawyer. >> how you convey that needs to go beyond a memorandum of understanding i will reiterate that others have said given what is happening in d.c. i don't want the police department to take the accuse from the analyzed government but to maintain our standards that are significantly higher to create a community that feels save for immigrants and people of color and brothers and sisters i love this city and want to express our values and people to be treated fairly and hopefully, the police department will make that true thank you. >> thank you. >> to clarify the record i see my city attorney interrupt this

o'clock will stop and restart. >> you'll have two seconds. >> good evening. >> good evening i'm every single i've been working in the tech industry and usf for the pass 6 years in this moment profiling harassment and the fact of the matter are the biggest threats to any immigrant community and by far the single threat to our ability to engage in my kind of public life i'm happy to hear the j.t. t f inspired and hope if it comes back scrutiny but if it goes through it is critical we make sure to really tighten those

standards like we saw right here a lot of misunderstanding potentially and what actually required working for us relevant this is implemented and well understood i really identity with the the experience in 2014 hoping none will have to go through a situation especially under a trumpet administration so again, i hope the commission follows the elements from the mta thank you. >> good evening. >> hi, i'm i i've been a resident for 19 years and want to support this withdrawal from the j.t. t f and speaking not only in behalf of south ailing community but living in the mission like a lot of my friends

from many countries that effects people and status i appreciate you know just the extra step and in particular feel like the discussion you know the police are in charge of the sfpd i'm sorry sfo within san francisco you know it is people talking about extra training like that extra effort at the airport whatever that entailed i appreciate it. >> thank you next member of the public please. >> good evening director and chief i'm a resident of the visitacion valley in san francisco and i'm also a member of the south asians taking action i applaud you the terrorism task

force and hoping - i definitely look forward as san francisco and a member of minority community to being here if j.t. t f standards are discussed thank you. >> thank you. >> hi, i'm buck a member of the bernal heights democratic club i support asian americans justice and care we're doing a great job and in bernal heights we were fortunate we have a mosaic in san francisco and you know we reached out to them over the years and go to they're open houses this year they said you always said you'll back us this year we need you in their worried we're worried we had an event with one and 20 people

because it was bernal heights we turned away 200 people one of the commissioner was in st. mary's park but we claimed that was bernal i want to say the ingleside station the folks from the mosaic we call up the captain i said you don't dr. to do that call them up they'll meet with you, we phoned ahead we didn't know a couple of us were doing security extra patrol on the ask the captain has had extra patrols around the mosaic around san francisco that fortunately never had incidents the fbi is a different story you all are not old enough to remember what they did to people like myself like boston and

cambridge the police are not what we're talking about work on the efficiency. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> i joined the community members and advocates out of stay out of trumgz j.t. t if f i'm chinese-american my parents were the target of national security i know that offhand fbi violations and abuse affect on families of the community members less than two years ago my family was womb up to the federal bureau of investigation bank on any door my father opened the door and a - he was arrested on the spot and the fbi

caused him ever psa u.s. technology secrets to china he was a spy accused of being a spy they tapped his phone's and read his e-mails we live in fear the fbi may have been listening to our conversations we don't feel safe in our own homes months later the charges were dropped no basis and after a legal process you know there was no basis for those charges their dropped to this day the federal bureau of investigation is not accountable for its actions against my family my family's life was turned upside down my father was criminalized for something he didn't do my father is not the only one but chinese people have

been surveilled by the fbi chinese-american are stereotyped because of the mccartney era as custom notifies anommunists and >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> >> next speaker, please. >> i'm going to keep this short i'm - i grew up in southeast part of san francisco my family moved here from india all and all that city is what i

know of living in america and i'm raising my children i love this city with all my heart in the past week the leadership have unequally said you've protect the community that trump is targeting i appreciate you and asking you to fulfill that by withdrawing from the j.t. t f please make sure the officers working with the fbi are immediately trained on the rules and requirement of the san francisco civil rights ordinance and our sanctuary city ordinance please tell him they're our officers and our rules apply not trumps and thank you for the remarks earlier i also hope that for the sake of all san franciscans we only strengthen our commitment to sanctuary in those times thank you.

>> thank you. >> hi. >> hi my name is kate a mom of two kids on the west side i own a business in the mission district and i want to say 3 things first of all, i support from withdrawal from the j.t. t f and the only glimmer of hope i see the last few months the mayors announcement we'll be having the recommendations on racial profile by worried about we won't have leverage i'm asking this body to one make sure you're looking at all the leverages available not federal levers implement all the recommendations so this critical

issue is important in the climate, and, secondly, the chain of command is gray we've seen instances of members of armed services not local but state and federal defy court orders not in the city but opens up the question what happens when our policies policies with the officers follow for the many wonderful people on the force doing the right thing as things are more complicated i recommend you have a serious clarifying the chain of command and training the officers how to respond appropriately when our laws and policies in california differ if the rest of the country the trumping administration yeah. sorry i'll stop there i'm

very nervous thank you. >> thank you. >> karen san franciscans for police go accountability and justice for mario woods coalition and actually chief scott this is for you this is a hoffton post blog i wrote at the end of 2016 detailing all the accomplishment that activists police accountability activists achieved if the the first day of black history month and your first police commission meeting we reflect on doug who is alive that power concedes chief scott welcome to you and your family in case you're not crystal clear the fact that our chief of the sfpd is 100 percent because the

people rose up and demand that mayor ed lee fire chief suhr and hire an external chief not enforced by the piano pee mayor ed lee wanted to appoint toney chaplin i that toney chaplin is the deputy chief and executive officer was a guest at the lunch ben the ymca this is unacceptable we didn't fight for you to be with chief suhr and the poa sfpd is one of the most poorly managed life or death departments in the united states people demanded a change agent that's you if you're not going to change sfepd we'll rise up against you, please watch the history of the sfpd as supervisor president london breed stated there is tremendous

mistrust of sfpd by the community and must be sfpd to take the step to build that trust by pfeiffer the problematic officers and fixing this department that's the only thing - >> . >> (clapping.) >> i'm made an announcement about the applause that is disruptive, and, secondly, i should have interpreted ms. mr. richie man you're to direct your comments to the board and not individuals so i apologize to chief scott because please direct your comments to the commissions not to individuals with that. >> next speaker, please. >> thank you very much i'm an

as native to san francisco i grew up in the lombard went to sherman elementary was never a born to a police officer but a traffic guard for 5 years at the elementary i said to infringement thank you for being a beacon of light in a dark world that is shaping up i respect the fact i live in san francisco i cal state university my neighbors my friends regardless of their race and gender and orientation i'm mostly first but i am an american citizen next and i feel that is a right for us to stand tonight unified regardless of political beliefs or background this is the time for a stand for unification and time for collaboration i'm pleased to hear that san francisco the city

that i believe read and belief is one of the cities that takes is a stand against the wrong light thank you, again respect i ask no matter what we form better aligns with the jewish and christian with every faith and work together with the police officers walking the beat and make this city again, a beacon of hope instead of a city and land people are afraid to live if thank you for your time for hearing us this is my first time i respected the fact you guys take us seriously and consider what we say i appreciate that thank you very much. >> yes, sir. >> good evening

my name is david i'm a muslim-american i would like you to doing everything we can to back up us and support our community and the consortium that's all i need thank you. >> yes, sir. >> mr. president. >> i'm sorry yes. >> one second. >> 30 seconds. >> go ahead. >> very a quick response to some of the speakers about wanting but and the police department to do all it can i assure you i do but part of responsibility is the community i think that is you've said this was an autism e awful weekend the police will not save us from donald trump i want you to know that and so i - i wanted to

throw out a number there was a inform rapid response team in the organizations and the number is 844878 - i can come in and the san francisco police department will not save us. >> thank you. >> 844878. >> good evening and thank you for what you do and what you try to do and what you will do what community support thank you commissioner hing for reminding us to do our duty the sanctuary city is one i hope will be interpreted a couple of ways one the traditionally sanctuary city issue that we're hearing about and joining in and supporting

right now it's been a sanctuary city issue for a long time for the individuals in the community that are treated definitely because of their race or identity or regardless of the status in terms of immigration and most of the time in the current issue those things overlap with race, and status there is another sanctuary problem that some officers in the san francisco police department have been pleading for and that's the sense of safety chief i'm sorry not populated to address the chief the sense of safety when they tried to do the right thing to do and so i'd like to ask this commission to embrace that the part of sanctuary city that allows our police officers who are trying their best to exemplify justice

and honor of service in the face of a obstructionist biggest police officers association that incidentally supported trumping intent on undermining the good policies and practices this commission and the department have tried to do keep in mind the current residents in the chair of the poa has survived four chiefs now so when we look at centers of power we know the continuity of the police officers association and they can't wait to embarrass our chief like they're serving hotdogs. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you

yes, sir. >> good evening, commissioners i'm keep this very short david one of the 10 founding members of the police accountability thank you, very much very much with trumping in power the d o j cops office we'll no longer have a person if reform i'm repeat we need very much to engage a broad community to interact on policy as shareholders i'd like to thank commissioner dejesus for bringing that up time and time again, please take into account as you move forward any policies issues that don't have the community involved not just the aclu and the you know kind of like the establishment community but the grassroots community please try to find a place for

us thank you. >> thank you next member of the public please. my name is rebecca you'll have to excuse me i've spent a long day trying to serve the city and sfpd a summons murdered by sfpd month is the murder of any immigrant lopez who was shot in the back by sfpd when we talk about immigrant safety i really think 24 needs to start with taking a stand against the racial profiling that is historically in san francisco not new under the trump region sanctuary status is

incredibly important but the vital fear in the immigrant and the brown and black community is really i think the forefront of this issue i ask you to join with me we talk about racial profiling a large coalition watching closely the inhumane and visual us treatment of a man shot and i believe he was handcuffed to a hospital bed so we're here to demand those charges be dropped and when we talk about immigrant safety we talk about real issues like the foundation has existed since 2001 when an immigrant a woman of color her son was murdered by the sfpd those are issues that

have historically exist we talk about racial profiling of muslims of brown and black people can of our disfranchised communities that are facing distribution. >> thank you. >> yes, sir. >> high commission i'll try for fairly brief i want to say with san franciscans of police accountability i want to make clear to the commission and everyone the issues of police brutality and accountability of the police department we don't have officers that are lying and doing cover ups of brutality with what happened in the city needs to be considered for sanctuary city policies because if we can't trust the officers to foreperson follow the

directives didn't matter they'll find ways to work around that i encourage you all to keep accountability also at the forefront to keep the policies meeting. >> any other public comment not general public comment public comment on items one a through one d seeing none, public comment is closed. item 2 presentation regarding the early intervention discussion. >> all right. i building that director hicks your office is presenting. >> yes. after the police department. >> i'm sorry good evening ambassador commissioner president turman and members of the public i'm

here introducing captain watching opening statement many of our presenter come up and sense we have different bureaus you'll see command staff to understand the chain of command the structure of our department puts a perspective who is presenting and which command staff i'm going to turn it over to the captain. >> and thank you assistant chief that is helpful thank you very much. >> captain watching how are you. >> i'm very good thank you, commissioner. >> good evening members of the public and others i'm captain watching with the at risk division division this is the

eis division. >> i'm here to respond to a list of questions from october that commissioner dejesus presented there were 14 enumerated questions with a subset of questions also with me stacey that directly oversees the eis will be able to answer our analysis questions the questions provided by commissioner dejesus meshed together so instead of each question individually and being redundant i'll give an overall response if you feel you want memo to dlef deeper we'll answer 80s questions the eis was established if 1994 as the early what were were or warping system to prevent officers from knitting misconduct in 2007 the

system was renamed the early intervention and the change has the belief the members of the san francisco police department are the most important asset within the organization the eis is system will look at factors that may read or show that officers are suffering from job stress or personal issues that may cause officers to fall short of professional services as well as not serving the community needs as we would want the intent of this system to provide a non-disciplinary intervention just a quick review i know your familiar but there are 10 indicators with 14 associated factors the indicators are listed in the general order the university of california, san francisco as required by d go and the officer-involved shootings and

oigdz, occ complaint now dictionary g a and mcd that is internally affairs and civil suits and on duty accidents from vehicle pursuits the accommodations and awards arrests by office and citations by offices and marcus books stops and training history and volunteer overtime and the discretionary time off and usage not protected by local law if you're principle participant in a critical incident criminal cases not filed or dismissed due to document with the members conduct as provided by the district attorney's office charges of resisting, obstructing or detailing a police officer and as a result on a police officer

most of questions that were asked has to do with with the associated factors currently eis does not use all the factors listed in the general order due to technical offers no obstructing or detailing the police officers or assaults on peace officer the records of our reports didn't isolate the officers or charging officers to those offenses for example, a detailing charge against an individual that ran from a police and substantial gives up maybe be a simple misdemeanor not requiring all the officers - but the member of eis about attempt to see if in any officers are blamed to the actual charged that is costuming

based on the association of the officers the second area we're associated factors of resisting arrest in the cable system if so archaic and shouldn't be because it is phased out the district attorney's office is anticipated to move to justice another system for court cases in charging this system any help us track those associated factors the inability not to track a factor not to see they're not useful but not every factor comes into play in mri my experience shows a pattern of development and a discussion with the officers will draw out the underlying issue when a pattern is not found the supervisor must speak to the member on alert this discussion is valuable and allows the

priorities so initiate the conversations about the exceptions and what performance the department expects of officers that was added and requires the supervisor to sign off whether or not the pattern of misbehavior is shown this leads me to confusion to some of the questions i'd like to clarify that failures to appear are tracked as s i a complaints members missed in court are investigated for the complaints under those investigations we generally find out if, in fact, the issues exist there is a discussion at the station level it is a station level investigation simply if we receive a complaint from the city attorney or any office about credibility issues we investigate interests an i a complaint that type of behavior in this situation i'm sorry in

in situation and associated factor actually becomes an indicator so what the general order with the document cases of untruthfulness or nothing like that comes as a higher factor we're notified about that similar to the general order and this has to do with with the interventions occur when certain thresholds with met for example, if an officer uses force 3 times within 3 months their places on alert and a review takes place to see in a pattern exists from the pattern is ascertained and a plan developed for an officer from the perception this is what appears to work we don't have a system that works we to have a high volume of interventions police officers don't show a

pattern of risk, however, i will pout that intervention through eis is not the only tool that the department seize the officers need training we offer peer support and outreach and the employee assistance and private visits to medical professionals i'd like to give you an example what takes place at the station and level i spoke to david larry city attorney i asked them if they have performed any investigations out of eis system central station conducted 3 form cigarettes and 5 informal bay area station has 4 formal session the supervisors inteenld prior to eis when the performance or other issues were discovered or observed the best tool for southeast our

greatest assets the peers and supervisors that surround them evidence several questions concerned higher thresholds but automatic interventions with automatic intervenes even been absent a pattern risk again, if success is predicated on the number of formula than speaking with oakland pd one of their thresholds is an officer assigned excuse me - warranty custodies to old is consistently on the eis system you couldn't exempt the officer may miss a pattern of at risk behavior once the system is route the fact an alert comes to a commanding officer or supervisor shows something out of the orderly maybe take place

the system has notified them they must use a critical eye to see what is happening with the officer roll call in baltimore the officer dropped the thresholds from 6 to 3 the doj find in some cases that was too late to intervention with the higher standard the issues had already grown to a place of misconduct or in some cases crime regardless of whether eis moves for hire threshold or mandatory intervene the factors should be considered carefully another set of questions requested information about the field training and the supervisors training and the eis unit overruling the supervisors the fto used the indicators the eis indicators are gathered into

multiple parts the same ones in the database on top of that the fto program needs recommends from sergeant and lieutenant from each officers that want to admitted followed up by a 3 panel as for training it should be reviewed and updated the department will will research better ways for supervisors to take a look at patterns and initiate interventions i like to point out that was placed on lovingly 28, 16 a department bulletin that gouz goes out with every eis and shows side supervisors how to complete the packet if they have any questions the eis unit is available to answer them we get the alert and review the alerts we will look at some short term

goals like publishing a cheat sheet on the internet and supervisors what review those and we'll move with the academy to have a a o or c p t our professional training classes with sergeants attend or at least training be used if that sergeant youngblood can plain explain that process and lastly where is the eis going sergeant youngblood made this functioning and sergeant has been making the recommendations the department building this is more robust and integrated is wander first we've engaged the university of chicago to potentially review our eis system and currently chicago reviews systems for

chief scott north carolina and we've in preliminary talks and the mayor's office is engaged there is potential grant money to cover some cost and maybe additional costs from the doj review preliminary talks about says our system is excellent, however, what indicators were brought to their attention by other departments the example from charlotte officers in focus groups mentions a factor should be considered was a response to suicides either the university of chicago nor the command structure of the charlotte station list that as an indicator the most important assets should be asked what effects them in their shifts everyday on a wider scale from areas through but department the doj recommended data be

collected and analyzed the bureaus is working on data collection for each over will not only benefit the day to day operations the it projects are underway but i can't speak to a timeline due to misrepresent unit and misrepresent bureau dimensions i can tell you that is a department priority the largest hurdle with the eis how to examine it as a whole the department will is significant data we'll be responsible for tracking and naval this could be academics institution a private entity and a new group of employees we can have all the data in the world without proper review we'll not learn and lastly leave you with that throughout the please be advised the ringing of

and use of cell phones and other electronic devices are prohibited. released the report in 2017 that referred to eis in the following way quote ultimately 9 system will identify officers who are not a real at a risk of misconduct and fail to identify area officer in a sense the system is a tool not a selection that the incumbent that supervisors been the first line in the intervention sergeant youngblood and i will be available to answer any questions and my colleague will present. >> you answered my questions or not i can't tell we have in february in february last year, we sent a letter to the mayor's office we were concerned about the eis system we said we'll be look at that and be on top of that i've asked

to have the eis present present i came up with those over a month ago you guys are ready to go forward but the - i prefer something that writing i can be informed and see whether you westward any questions or not to read a report a pretty lengthy report i understand from what i hear the justification is why the system you think that working i'm disappointed for what we put a lot time in the eis intervention system and the recommendations we've not made any of the recommendations we have in 2015 one and 56 officers had alerts in the eis and two officers had 8 alerts and others 5 alerts despite 9 officers received an intervention and 90 none are aimed at the officers he hear that's a good indicator

i'm concerned about the assault and why they're not under there in 2014 a quarterly report indicating from 2009 we started using the eis there were 42 interventions out of 2000 plus and when you gave the report last year in 2015 this was no report you gave the report from the spring of last year i can't remember only have people are koeltd that was the red flag that went you up what is this doing are you meeting and turned out you're not reporting to us in 2015 and start to report in 2016 and pull it together i'm disappointed i want something in writing want to be informed i can't tell from the report whether or not you answered any questions one of the questions he had rather than tell me we need an audit but an expert to

tell us what is wrong i want to know you what you heard is wrong with that, i have nothing to check off you talked quicker i'm not good at shorthand i i don't think that is working well but can't hear anything that is working well, i don't know why we're paying money for an expert we've not decided when that is working or not and we should hold do into that i don't know why we need an expert to tell us those are good indicators i bought that line i helped put it together and bought the first lines are the sergeants and now it is the sergeants only the sergeants making the decision this should be a command staff

member lieutenant in that a captain and the accessibility we shouldn't leave it to the line supervisor that works on a daily basis no matter how much we say a early intervention the rank and file see the sergeant as a disciplinary system and that is reflective of who is how many times people are being counseled people are afraid to get them the real council they need and the other thing the public brought up we need to fix it so people we can catch the people that are doing the crime and the texting to catch that as well i'm sorry, i can't respond of everything you've said i'm disappointed i waited a a long time for this report i can't respond in a meaningful manner

and i'm going to take mr. alden reports and then - come to the commissioners questions. >> thank you captain. >> before. >> can we get a copy of what you read. >> let's let mr. alden gives his report and then we'll take it from there. >> commissioner president turman and commissioner vice president mazzucco and members of the commission chief scott deputy chief francisco and a members of the public first, let me say i hope i can

answer all our questions it's been difficult with that said, this is a very important issue i welcome the conversation per and i hope any presentation helps you get to a point to achieve direction tonight. >> chief scott and i have not met it is a pleasure to meet meet you by way of introduction i've been an attorney in the san francisco ethics commission for the last 8 years for the last 7 and a half working in internal affairs but i switched to the department of police affordability with director hicks and i've been working there with disciplinary cases and policy issues like this one and as a result i've had opportunity to be around and close to the e i s 0 so this is a learning process i have a

power point that is on the screen i believe that commissioners have a copy i'd like to briefly walk you through that, please don't hesitate to interrupt me. >> i don't think you have a problem there. >> yes, sir. >> the official of overview are as follows: we were asked by commissioner dejesus and her finally question into last fall to explain what question building might be useful with respect to the eis recommends are 4 first, we need to have a definition and measurement of what eis success is we certainly have ideas and ultimately that direction will probably need to come from the commission respectfully, and, secondly, once we achieve that understanding this is a field that is needed study to evaluate

whether or not we're achieving the goals there are improvements to the system that can be made i don't know if we have consensus - whether or not we're accomplishing the goals we've put together. >> so as you heard from captain welch we have a intervention system and become a standard tool amongst departments that the blood or under gotten the doj there are several departments using one phenomena or another of eis in 2007 as commissioner dejesus knows from her work most but not

all the models implemented since that time with the doj .9 as commissioner dejesus some parts are not implement i'll get into the detail i do think the challenge we have seen from the presentation from captain welch and the presentation i'm giving no consensus about how to change it to be more successful one thing i'll note about that from my experience working with the police department the system we had prior to 2007 one i've not seen or seen the documents has been described by people that said they're around at the time that was driven inspirational by sergeants or lieutenant at the station level noticing problem were given a great deal of data and responsible for figuring out out

the patterns one strength of the system is central listed point i'll agree with captain - but it is incredible important to look at the data we're tracking to figure out an activity to flag perhaps the field supervisor might not notice those are useful and needs to be supported our currently current eis model it supposed to flag the officers. intervene for that reason - as we cancer the indicators not future as captain welch mentions some departments that will think that the officer respond to the

call of a suicide has an affect on the officer that can cause problems for the officer later on if they're not given the right support not misconduct by the officer but the factor that causes one to pay attention to the officer all the thought factors we should be tracking in the eis none of them necessarily show misconduct some maifsht in that regard one of the things that is strong about our program i'll recommend we keep is that we include both the poa and the department the thought police accountability it is made up of several ranks and different assignment to primarily a program run by the epa we don't have access to analyze that ourselves we rely on the police department to do that as commissioner dejesus mentioned it is very important to continue

the message to the officer in the field this is no the punitive system but to provide support before an officer has a problem since 2007 had the cops review the cops waiting for the eis would be fair to summarize by saying that cops is recommended we continue the program and make that more robust and roommate the tracking evident use of force recommendations how to do that and the department is working on that and the reporting of the data had been more robust the eis in the last year i've noticed has been starting the process of approval of the draft minutes down how the eis alerts are showing up by station or by assignment to start seeing

patterns how they peak or valley out for example, cops recommend that we added some new indicators especially bias they didn't specify say the indicator but we have that and figure out how to create those indicator we need an expert to help us with i'm not sure anyone here can do that in the eis programs in the last decade we have a significant body of data as well we have tracked at least the 10 indicators not all associated factors but 10 indicators detailed in d go and had about 50 interventions or so, so ought to have data to know what is going on we'll recommend we start using the materials i think this is

consensus among the members that helping officer is the primary goal the help should be timely before they center problems and effective but that said there is not consensus about exactly how to measure that there is much conversation whether the numbers of officers who receive alerts or flagged captain cherniss number of interventions as commissioner dejesus mentioned a significant difference in 2015, 9 interventions out of three hundred and 7 in 20162 of the at a later date quarter out of 5 hundred plus a very, very small percentage the members of the board agree the number of interventions taken by i was itself didn't tells you anything we need to have a conversation about the number of interventions compared to the number of alerts mean something that is a dramatic difference we have a very small percentage of

alerts going to interventions does that african our system has a lot of false positives we're flagging officers and evaluating them and figuring out their fine and don't require intervention or we're correct in flagging the officers i don't think there is consensus was which of those two is true it could be we're flagging the wrong people and the people we need to flag are not flagged at all because of the false indicators as i mentioned i was - we've not assessed whether or not those are working some systems i'm told have started to try to figure out ways to see if there are skangz in the behavior in the field after they are eis system is active for example, hogging having fewer disciplinary cases

in the department as a whole or a lower number of one 48 as commissioner dejesus mentioned or a lower number of civil claims against the department for university of california, san francisco we've not assess whether or not there are changes in the numbers and whether or not those assessments will show us the eis system is successful it's time to use the material to figure out how to apply that here another measure of success with the eis system with the doj 109 a imposes appointed in 2007 the tracking of 143 the resisting of arresting and if someone assaults an officer and if their that's a great question that and on top of that if there was a captain to the reflective management how the numbers a lot

as you've heard that is not tracked it didn't readily track that information i'll respectfully suggest that could be set up to track that information i've worked in other systems police department as a matter of course janitors a report which officer was the victim or subject fulsome u, if you will, of one 48 and can track that here not our practice could be just not and not throughout the one 49 if we switch to that i would suggest that the eis board needs direction to make that a priori priority. >> i'm sorry we need to tell them to make that a priority. >> well. >> respectfully i think that can come from the commission or the chief i think that can come from a variety of people from

someone other than me, i'm one member of the board if you ask any opinion that makes a lot of sense to track the one 48 those are used in can i feel cases to demonstrate an officer has a pattern we use that in disciplinary cases why not if there's academic material that shows you it is not useful but on the face that seems highly loving that should be a significant factor and some other departments are studied that. >> any opinion on that captain welch. >> i have paper if you need it. >> again as i stated we do agree that all the factors associated factors which one 48 i want to differentiate one of the associated factor comes in

after the threshold was met for example, in the 3. >> - >> add the one 48 yeah, so i will refer to, yes - we agree that that is something we should look at my presentation touched on that and again, using the university of chicago saying we have a good foundation and again repeating what john alden said we're open to academics but as of now we are readily willing to use that as an illustration. >> bargaining no academic to the creak add one 48 to the indicators. >> to the indicators?

>> i did not want to say anything i didn't know that mr. alden was not finished. >> he's not finished. >> thank you, captain welch go ahead. >> to clarify the one 48 and 243 was designated in 2007 if it was flagged the supervisor should look at that. >> is isn't there a - >> i agree yes, we should track them and add to other indicators two questions he agree with both of those similar issue will be too much of those to get into tonight but instances from the officers search for seizures was called out as an associated

factor we don't track those and the skill options. >> can i interrupt whether or not an officer made a wrong legal decision that courts review that prosecutors and defense attorneys review in the comfort of their office not necessarily a factor of an officer having issues if they made a wrong cotton on the law they take criminal law we're taking it a far field if we do that. >> ? in a disciplinary process and may come to nothing. >> if i may i civil grand jury had the experience as an prosecutor i'll be prepared to defend it and somehow an officer would not make that i'd lost the

notion because the officer could not make that but has nothing to do with with whether or not an officer can make. >> anyone may have a range and have a flag goes i a because they're out on parental leave and the paperwork was not arranged perfectly whether they get reason this is still an indicator we use a lot of indicators and try to do a pattern. >> the associated factors were part of best factors we wanted the one 48 was compromised that was a mistake. >> you make another good point in 2007 those ten indicators the 14 society factors were the best practice we know more about best practices and take into account that and to your point

commissioner vice president mazzucco other jurisdictions look at other issues and include it i agree we shouldn't track it for example, in san diego we have one of the old sheriff's department pardon me that's a different one in the los angeles sheriff's department in 2009 a study one of the earliest warning systems in the early 90s so their disappeared of the connections one of the officers with a higher rate of failure to appear will have a university of california, san francisco in the field i never would have thought those are connected that's the strongest connection of all the connections they found that's the kind of research we should be looking at why is that connected we don't know that's a pattern the two together so some kind of talk to the officers

should occur one improvement in 2016 the department has now moved from having a standing best practice that i think many but not all supervisors followed when we received an alert about an officer sit down and talk with the officer with the lieutenant and captain most of the time one thing last year, it it was the been but didn't specifically require that so no pattern extend that back to the eis that didn't happen that's a significant improvement and the kinds of improvement we should be thinking about that's why my next point it is time in the next future to find an expert system and let the captain reach out the university of chicago and a variety of ways to find experts like that

there are some other academic institutions or the university of albany and the university of central florida and other institutions will even do this kind of analysis for free priority we share data that has the names of officers stripped out for their own academic work i think that is fantastic the department is looking at those kinds of partnerships some other possible improvements require reaching a convenience will be you know first, the discussion we had about the one 48 and 243 whether that resists the best practices and whether the indicators should be given weight with a traffic collision as one point in the indicators some other jurgdz will

differentiate between the traffic collisions with not injury and with an injury to an officer or civilian those resulted injuries will be two points we don't have my accorded and maybe time to consider whether or not that is useful likewise time to look at the thresholds as baltimore did and time to look at whether this is mandatory kinds of interventions we want to come this separate from theers eis that happens in officer-involved shooting immediately without any judgment send the officer to a department that is great and now, some of them might not ever do anything else but that context that's good on the next slide show you an example of what other departments are doing take an

indicator like from to appear at court or training or the like with rank and look at all the officers in the department for those officers the highest have the history frequency to appear 5 percent have the allegations the most they'll send those people to a training maybe a two hour course at the academy you have an alleged failures to appear something is not right and here's a class not punitive you can make that example with other indicators depending on what is the most important to this body. >> finally i'm glad to hear the department is looking at the training the cops mexico's how to identify the indicators sergeants didn't know how to

identify those indicators and figure out if there was a pattern beginning to be some consensus academically about that doj has a report they have prepared specifically 19 civically for sergeant and line supervisors to help them identify and that's the material that will be great for training and looking forward to the department incorporating that and should continue to look at other agencies to see how they're doing that. >> finally i think it is going to be important moving forward to have some sort of periodic modification that can happen at the commission or the eis board i recommend a portion of that happening here to make sure we are following the commission thoughts right now a report only that comes down it the commission i think perhaps at our discretion perhaps an annual report what changes over the

past year and whether or not they're working or not and perhaps commissioners are preferences in my event recommend a periodic modification likewise all of those indicators and associated factors we described are set in the d go that will be useful to create a mechanism to modify those that something that is not labor intensive. >> questions. >> pretty thorough. >> thank you. >> couple of questions my first question is did the department do a separate report and you did a separate report

that's correct is that what happened. >> right. >> my next question i guess what i want to know if there's anything you heard or saw i don't know, you saw that you disagree with fundamentally in what - i don't know if you shared the other report. >> certainly you want to hear from captain welch we've talked about the issues to the eis board meeting and captain welch talked about that getting ready for this presentation including last week and made sure i shared. >> anything i sdraurgd with. >> we're kind of in a confluence of situations we have is a system on the books for 10 years we've gone through a doj review through the

recommendations outside of that we started looking for academic constitution but use of force is connected to this we'll rolled out the use of force investigates a component of eis all overseeing mergers in my - and no. >> you heard something that sound off base i guess we've had a lot of success i don't know if this is built into ms. merriam working with the department and getting joint work we know the references have been flushed out when you come together that works very well very, very well, i'm suggesting if that can happen that would be wonderful because we know that you've talked and given one report that

helps a lot so i had to ask that question i don't know if you did that cross kind of working together with that particular thing. >> commissioner marshall to answer that question we meet with the occ at our eis quarterly meeting john alden met and i chair the eis quarterly meeting and john crew has been there that is what john alden referenced the sit down with the sergeants and having that conversation and sending the eis report to the lieutenant and captain having those meeting and with the public john alden mentioned we have the commission secretary and member across the bureaus including training to identify how to improve them from this conversation we talked about the crime data and extract

that we had the doj review and the body worn cameras and the cit a bunch of other issues we have to contestant technically and this is one of the facility issues but we decided to partner with the university of chicago and do a thorough eis program and determine what the best practice could be and that of confusion. >> i wanted to know about the two - >> the entities working together we work with the dpa. >> mr. alden you were with the department a long time you had some knowledge the eis does that. >> well, yes he never worked directly on the eis so wasn't within my wheel house.

>> periodically i do be consulted and captains or sergeant. >> it comes up with people that are working discipline cases the place where the performance is kept as part of disciplinary process for the commendations and how much you knew about the eis. >> i got it and i can answer the questions about that i have some familiarity. >> now any understanding any neck point any understanding ronnie to make sure i'm saying that correctly that eis is on the radar of the doj recommends to be looked at along with the other 200 and 72 we'll cross this bridge with deeper dive

this up as part of dovts recommended it is in our cross hairs we'll deal with this how we deal with that and when it is coming down the pike so i want to make sure i'm correct with that. >> because ronnie; is that correct. >> thank you okay. >> (inaudible) and please could come to the podium. >> okay. i'm finished. >> commissioner dejesus. >> so i want to thank you for that and i want to get clarity if you the department of police accountability and who else sits on the board or - and described in 3.8 pursuant to the d go.

>> i can tell you the list. >> i want to make sure you're on there i'm disappointed about the technology not capture i know that also right after 2007 and 2008 we got money for technology to try to device a program to capture a lot of the data and just sounds like it didn't happen so that's disappointing i understand the interagree to capture information i don't know how we don't talk to each other technology didn't talk to each other that's the way i understand that that has problems. >> that's correct i mentioned in my report cable is basically doing x ting and justice which will be the das court system slashing charging system will have all the charges my understanding is much more

assessable from the 70's or 80s. >> when we get an expert we have to look at the technology how if we first of all, get the data and have it analyzed and look forward to technology to capture the data we want to capture; right? >> we can capture the data moving forward the way that it is working right now referring to the entire doj report that eis is part of a the doj has asked for the e 585s to be updated our use of force from the officers with race, gender what types of force we're getting there and if i can make you think of a piece this year and actually put that piece of pie back into the pan what it the whole we'll have that information. >> one of the things that was brought up in the presentation

the reports or rosters not been helpful and couldn't get a handle i know you're doing more detailed reports recently so i'd like to look at them and participate at some point we'll be redoing this to make the report more helpful for the commissioners to understand and one of the last questions he wanted to mention mandatory intervene oakland has certain criteria mandatory with we going to look at some of those things. >> yes. commissioner, i touched on that and used oakland and draw out what we may or may not get john alluded to cases where in a person missed a range will be found proper conduct but the interventions oakland has them we may get for internals if that's the metric we'll used to

have a successful eis to get it intervention again, our presentation we're open to that but think and consider really hard especially mandatory to make that discretion. >> i agree the idea you'll director fririll down and that' i'd like to hear more about that and work on that i'd like to know what oakland considers a mandatory intervention i don't know if it will work here but i'm wondering it, it is significant or insignificant. >> since i asked oakland offered to have us come but would you like to come. >> i would like to go. >> we'll make that happen. >> i - and i've been asking

this for a year. >> commissioner vice president mazzucco. >> thank you i want to thank captain welch and for the members of the public that early intervention system was not in place when i came on the commission as it started to develop the system like any new system we had a lack of technology but i really want to thank the police department and the occ the occ for their work one of the factors that that we've worked on i know that captain welch talked about you can have factors failures to appear interesting like mr. alden said failure to appear is like for the members of the public officers are involved in a critical incident and a year or two later your in front of commission with a disciplinary

action but the front line didn't take a number of arrests but the sergeants and lieutenant are spending more time for training we had a number of suicides in the police department our biggest concerns the lieutenant were not recognizing but training the sergeant and other patrol officer officers this is the officers training to look for the factors who are the captains this change was put in place this process i mean the number one indicator are the men and women that work at the stations he hear in their more willing to come forward that's the leading indicator that folks are seen 10 hours a day 4 days a week that is the improvement the more hands on approach and the more important perfecting the

data i encourage the police department to look at this we've seen a clear pattern where officers come to us and say geeze i was doing this and that and after they've been involved or seen a traumatic inlt about their welfare that translate to the safety of the public so again, we need to keep that going while we're trying to perfect the human side we've seen a rate of suicides in the past years but urge the police department to spend more time thank you for your presentation and commissioner dejesus had a lot of questions not unusual and both of you did a great job. >> commissioner hing. >> yeah. i take it concerned an interesting conversation i'm a many recommends from dpa i'm wondering what are the immediate

next steps a lot has been discussed with respect to what has been done do we have a timeline or goal within the next 3 months we'll see those particular items movement in particular areas are we leaving that up to you i'm thinking comfortable leaving like this with a lot of good ideas on the table. >> i agree we should ask commissioner dejesus let's get a joint report and joint recommendation how this eis will be improved and we want - something a little bit more concrete if there are - we need to consultant experts and review the reports and review the academic information let's do that and come back with what are our thresholds and what are the

indicators we want to look like how will this program be changed how long you do need you don't center to answer that but be on calendar one a few months reramped the eis the chief approved that's what we feed to do i've wanted to talk. >> we don't have to revamp it but say what plans or steps to move forward something like that. >> commissioner marshall. >> be author i mean, you're point about indicators in 2007 are completely different this is a big point looking at other risk factors we've been pretty good with the cit we went to seattle that is part of recommendations

you know i'm not saying wait forever but be author and bring this back it certainly is something we want to get - i mean, we had high hopes for this and intervention tool not a warning tool not punitive the way we sold it to the department we want to help you, we want to keep that spirit but make sure we keep a process that gives an idea of how much help they need. >> the doj report. >> it references the eis system as well got it. >> yes, sir. >> wonderful. >> does that mean i have to cross the bridge (laughter) just to make sure i got this right. >> take that up with commissioner dejesus. >> i'll do that call the next item, please. >> thank you for commenting

i'm sorry public comment on the eis system pardon me. >> hello i'll try to be quick i'll jump around good good news and bad news the good news you're holding this hearing and thank you commissioner dejesus and bad news it took is this long this is an order in place for 10 years you've heard about the report things that are not come applied and not come applied with for years; right? par part of the issue is with respect to the commission for its own odors for the management and right down the chain unless you stay on top of that note hearing now for the first time the chief you're having technology problems this is a requirement for years my suggestion the starting point to go through this order what are you not

following and right before you revamp it from my point of view i tried to study that is arguably the second most important management system second to the disciplinary and accountability this is the system that allows you to track what is going on should be non-punitive i'll be centered to hear chief scott experience it in los angeles they went through the culture problem of implement their teams program they got held up maybe we ought to take advantage of his expertise i agree with the tools not a solution you need to check if so used we recommend there was a finite set of officers we can identify maybe two or three

dozen that have been asked in survival come out you don't have to reveal their names look and see if our officers were flagged and if so, did necessary receive an arrest - >> let me say that we have a challenge with that almost all of those correct me if i am wrong were on personal cell phones right so the challenge they're saying not pitting a bias if you have an idea you have a lot of ideas (laughter) how to somehow pick out something outside of work we welcome that that's what i'm talking about. >> there is no question to respond to next speaker please.

san franciscans for police accountability how can the peers and supervisors be effective at identifying problematic officers when there a cultural problem at sfpd san francisco ranked 8 nationally in fatalities per capita in 2015 in 2016 while investigated by the dusts and the blue ribbon panel and the civil grand jury they shot and kindly one one thank god seconds and shot jessica and killed her awhile inside of a carbo in violation of department policy two racist text sfpd promised the defense that will audit officers text message in may as of december that audit has yet to start in may the poa wanting gary went on a facebook calling

the police officers bishops for calling not on my watch and wanted to think transferred to shoot and officer morris who was x-rated for shooting 59 times went on facebook to make threats in an unprecedented the sfpd sustained the complaint but not disciplined is he there and officer that shot and killed a person. >> so you - >> i let you do it twice you're not doing it anymore stick to the agenda. >> next. >> next speaker, please. >> your disruptive and i'm warning you.

>> thank you. i'll agree with her bringing up behavioral problems if you have a system that is to be early intervention and people don't trust you people can cleaver it best practices that allow you to slowly introduce that into any staff workforce their counseled and the thresholds are low and they learn that it truly is number one punitive if i was anybody in my job and some technical came to monitor me i'll execution i caution you not until you have it in practice and look at known problems like the one that was point out you can understand if you're catching people and there's

technology out there so solve all the questions you talk about i work in tech if you want to look at the police officers cell phones and police department in the country have the technology that's why drug people don't use the cell phones personal text and communicates on cell phones that technology has existed since the early 2000 and provided to law enforcement all over the country watch it on the wire. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening, commissioners i think that the e i f should be rain unpunitive but in need of reform kind of one of the again, i keep harding park on the issue one the glaring things the

commission didn't have any you know public members on it that might be something that would be a good idea i'm inform myself about what the eis mission meets i'm assuming noticed you know in the proper way and try to attend some of the meetings to get an idea of what is happening but to commissioner vice president mazzucco i hear you know that trauma has a major affect on police officers we have to take into consideration and i'm hoping that the nexus between sfpd cult and eis is one or becomes one where you know you can go through the eis system without you know any shame or any, any whatever any bad results for our criteria from it it what about a real early

warning system that is something that the officers would beacon hill be likely to be a part of thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you michael adams any airport pilots in the group? like to show you two documents the top one is any technical polite i know how to operate airports translate that to i know how to show a a shoot a gun and therefore, be it resolved when you get on the next plane in addition to the skill certification a fitness for underlying certification we should have the fitness that says despite our skills you can't fly until every 6 months

pass on early intervention system this is not an early intervention system folks everything calls for factors to be in place this is a late intervention system 3 incidents or 6 incidents of use of force this is nothing for an officer has zero incidents who is an impeding divorce a kid got kicked out of school to be tagged are flagged think about adding to the in front end of the so-called early a real system that is periodically every officer takes away the stigma of the intervention every officer goes through 6 months in this case not a commercial polite but a year you get asked

medical questions what's your blood pressure and medications our using and substances anything that would present a stress factor that then sets you up for your next safe landing don't center to wait to a plane to crash to follow the intervention do you see any point. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> you concur with should mbes that have spoken there are available indicators that have going larger ignored by the

current protocols they clarify pms as one of them the thinking ability to control action physical interaction with the public what about a clear indicator i understand not set up as a punitive system but adopting the language of 5150 or talk about the danger to sf self or others those are very, very clear indicators someone that is a hothead and constantly getting into stuff take the example of officer killed a child in the city and beating people and multiple allegations has nothing to do with with the range and secondly, with the phone with the 5150 analogy 3 incidents over 3 consecutive months with

the smallest smartest case that results in grateful bold harm i worked with people with many mental health conditions and had it in my own family that the extreme extremely ridiculous 3 intsd in 3 consecutive months will head for a crash and any dysfunctional system needs to be more author this and that. >> i want to second the walls u calls by the last to speakers the regular skill evaluations for fitness not tied to any sort of existing pattern of behavior are a wonderful idea to remove

stigma and lose for preventing crisis and this is something i think that moving away from the pattern of trying to found the patterns into more stable models but concerned that exists outside of eis system as it is today a second thing that is important and my apologies if this exists i don't know outside the eis system will be to have some way of reviewing patterns of misconduct identify problem officers and get them fired the eis system is not appropriate for that permanent no a punitive system if mean the department didn't need a system to find officers that repeatedly been engaged in behavior that is questionable and officers that are lied and killed people and

officers that repeatedly body camera in brutal outlet we need a punitive system that looks at patterns of - not just looks at the patterns and says well, i opponents that could be a problem it has been a problem that should be addressed as soon as possible separate from a specific incident thank you. >> seeing no oversight when it comes to ross there was never anything that was oversight worse what they did there they brought him before this and more or less run him over has to do with with our skaurngs and all that wasn't recognized that his

livelihood his wife and all this all about the child. >> i ask- >> the eis system. >> the eis he was recognized by the. >> sir we're not here to talk about the gentleman the eis system. >> the eis system i'm saying. >> the early intervene is one of the things we should be looking at and it is all about the child that we are that there is in us we should be you know recognizing that we're sanity when it comes to our children we have to look for this man was speaking of his children. >> sir, thank you i appreciate your comments sit down sir you've.

>> i need to move on. >> next speaker, please. >> wiener talking about people in the community that carry guns the vetting to be regis there say, i feel like undermined feels we don't want to hurt the police officers feelings they're not personal like this we have a rigorous vetting system people don't complain it won't go anywhere for many, many years people come to activists before they they know from people from vulnerable community they don't complain that is a mess and not

just it is the technological mess a lack of intention we know that there are systems worked before and we could implement them the cit system which the commissioners applauded themselves for earlier the last time 2 percent of the police officers did cit training. >> ma'am, early intervention. >> please. we're talking about a culture in the plod police department and we need them to the vetted like there are reports. >> back to general public comment. >> we have something on early intervention. >> thank you next. >> public speaker. >> seeing none, public comment

is closed. general public comment. >> (laughter). >> ha-ha-ha. >> item 3 general public comment address the commission on items not on tonight's agenda within the jurisdiction of the commission. the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or departments or occi personnel. under police commission rules of order neither the police department, occi or commissioners are to respond to the questions the commissioners, occi, nor the police commission should enter into debates and please limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. two minutes. >> good evening mr. miller i'll co-director the anti police and poor magazine and in that's capacity drop all charges against shawn moore and bring

the disciplinary measures against the police officers allison park been a journalist in 10 years working for media outlet and report to the black newspapers and muni radio on january 23rd shortly on 3:30 p.m. i witnessed the deputy place him in a life-threatening choke hold awhile i was pushed and shoved by other deputies and i was escorted out of the building and arrested in violation of any first amendment freedom of speech and freedom of press we were held into custody without be charged in handcuffs and 7 political prisoners on the first hour on the job permanently buildings the same

thing it of life any people don't endorse calling for more - to this ended we demand the termination with cause of shooters of shawn moore and others mario woods and jessica wilson williams and angelica and pat and those involved in the darnell and the interpretation of joshua and further it was any honor to be arrested with those 6 brave souls the people have not only the right but the duty to be ungovernoral. >> if you wish to make a complaint with the department of accountability please. yemen industry at the 9:30 and 9

hundred block of chinatown a 9-1-1 call from a victim of burglar in the state apprehension of that suspect san francisco police department created time and distance and andrew's that person at 329 for a total between 5 and 6 hours saturday the 24 of september 20161225 p.m. the fire department recorded a silverman at city hall a white in an carrying a weapon this person was safely apprehend and arrested by 6:00 p.m. so for those two individuals san francisco police department padded themselves on the back and talked about how the safe implementation of time and distance was make a difference to the community after deputy chief and acting chief toney chaplin was not selected as our

chief of police on friday the 6 of january at 3:30 in the morning a neighborhood had a running dispute that shawn moore called in and a temporary restraining order where their walls met their homes are close together the two officers showed up officers kenneth and had shot shawn moore by 4:00 a.m. i'd like to ask if there is time and distance in inherent in the san francisco police department why there is a difference bans the race of the person acting chief chaplin stayed with shawn moore that was text time and distance is there -

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the poa has anti jew pieces and have people apologizing for staying alive sorry the defiant poa leadership seems to say we don't do anything wrong like every other group yet the city pays for the misconduct the city officials and police know the public fear that the public fear the arresting try use of public scrutiny as well as resume go with the territory we've done good by the pension sorry we need the police to make things work and they don't it evidence something honored pubically and is awarded here.

>> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good evening commissioner president turman i'm a senior born and raised from the mission district lived here my whole life and past the century march i want to say through the chair welcome chief scott and with great high praise i'm sure earned we wish him well, we need to instill the confident confidence of the people of color i want to give a commendation from the captain from the mission station i've watched him in times of turmoil and watched that officer rise to the occasion each and every occasion to give the community the respect due it even when we

was not given the same i thought i think they've been doing an amazing job the men and women under his command given the fact that the mission district has had the highest rate of homicide we're understaffed the highest rates of service calls i hope we can take into consideration make the changes we've golden gone introduce difficult times and asked to attend a meeting tomorrow i hope we can work together and thank the men and women that wear that uniform because public safety is an issue for all of us. >> thank you, sir. >> good evening again commissioners it's been a long night david from the san francisco for police accountability i've written a long art on shawn that or will be published in the sf weekly do the body worn cameras i have two

general broad communication to offer first, the richmond officers were grossly incompetent bad but worse the aftermath was botched by senior officers in ways that suggest that can say list indifference to life and the families moore was left to bleed out loan in his house his parents were refused mission we underwent surgery and in critical condition for ways and the family was denied invitation during the time he was hospitalized and the responses of the command stock to circle the weeks ago to support shaw and others to look at their superficial injury to stigmas a

- the bureaucracy of sfpd seemed determined to protect itself even with nelgz leads to an officer-involved shooting we could not reform the department if it remains defense ivy want to welcome chief scott our small group police for accountability we lobbied the supervisors and spoke and interviewed on tv and e we're glad to have chief scott and hope to work collaboratively with him but we also going to remain a public watchdog thank you. >> thank you. good evening. >> good evening commission gilbert with san franciscan for

police accountability the report i'm handing 7 copies for each of you up there when i tried to bring it into the building the officers at the security check attempted to roam it into me until the refused it has 6 chapters those chaefrpts include remarks how joshua is notorious in the community with 6 incidents of brutality outlet he was involved in the cases have fought on the victims and their family a list of some could later and other incidents in which they were involved like tony the vice president of the police officers association has lied as by the department of the police

accountability and buck who lied on the stand those officers have not been fired i would like to point out there are many bad cops in sfpd their repeat offenders and have the cult of i think punt and the network controls the poa police brutality is liken to beautiful brutally again teach their partners how to get away with the brutal i hope the commission takes the charges of trying to get this culture and those people that network out of department and some recommendations i have to make to that end any officer to cover up misconduct should be fired as a matter of policy and, secondly, that officers who are whistle blowers needs to be

protected from retribution included out of harm's way start by apologizing this whole thing is really something that we should be really proud of because it all started with ross how we were able to try to for a man of justice and he was he was recognized by the harvard university law school the most progressive police sheriff and san francisco needs something that is aggressive progressive and he got a badge cam on those people person horrible bunch and it seems like there is a lot of that going around and a lot of

goodness i apologize again but as far as trump and this squanderers aanctuary city and >> all the kings hours and all the kings men couldn't that trump together again, nothing what about repeated about me you know when i say about a i recognition you, sir, thank you. >> this is global warming we're talking about the weight of the ocean and this is weight of ocean on us this day and trump dumb thank you and the

all the green hours and all the green men can put that world back together again, i thank you. >> thank you we'll see you next thursday night. >> next speaker. >> i live in the mission district a san franciscan for 15 years and here to speak about the case of shawn moore who was kushl having charges pressed against him, i want to say that actually like other community member i've met with shawn anymore and his mother and you know he's had a seems like a lot of sort of psychiatric issues and he's you know as far as i know he's in the hospital i think that basically i'll putting - i feel this case is

best solved by the community and not by the legal system i think that shawn moore's mother is kind of like in a wreck right now and other communities members that what look after this person to help the situation i feel that - and so, yeah i want to advocate that and i think that the current approach of opening a person that is already shot down close to you know close to dying in a legal situation is in the good for him or the community or for his mother thank you so much thank you. >> sir. >> i work in sf it's been many hours here i want to echo everyone about

the concerns with shawn moore i also ask the police commission to train on how to call for a crisis intervention team two, bring a disciplinary case against the officers with hahn moore if one has not been and 3 use the platform to charge owl officers that are killed unarmed people in the city shawn is a black man with a schizophrenicic and the video cam shows the officers escalated when shawn needed a vintage team the officers should be held responsible shawn moore is the one facing calories and held on

$2 million bail and shawn should be helped with examination please exterminate training how to call a crisis intervention team and bring a disciplinary case against the involved officers while they've wasted no time in charging shawn with pies mental health country's this team has not brought police officers accountable and san francisco may seem like it's leading the surcharge against racism but sf parts against sharon moore as delayed justice san francisco is not a completely save place for immigrants or homeless queer, trend or young and black people.

>> thank you on tasering the cops made a recommendations i want to currently it be done in a preview way and chief scott there is history on this town not isolation has to do with with that department i hope when you look at the reports with our association our department concern introducing this as period of time where deesclation but more importantly is there in fact, an accountability system that holds the officers accountable is there early intervention using the university of california, san francisco disproportionately will that flag them and more importantly culturally you need to look at nfl the rules of the poa for the officers how the weapon was used i hate to go introduce it minded after

controversial incident they'll exist that tell the public if only the officers use tasers this is dangerous they suggest tasers use in place mr. moore a large man in psychiatric distress at the top of concrete stairs even if that worked that man would have fallen and hit his head you're not supposed to use tasers in a tree i have 30 seconds i'm almost done if only the tasers would be used he'll be loyal alive they used the beanbag method they have would have said the same thing if only tasers mario woods would be

alive if it impacts confidence whether or not this is the right time with the cultural i look forward to the discussion. >> thank you hello michael adam san franciscans for please accountability two things to think about the hiring practices there is a story out there that is called a rumor that will be emphasis on seeking ousted african-american cadets from historically black colleges on the basis that is disciplinary the basic qualification is a high school education if i understand our system correctly to think about attracting black officers but asking him to be college trained is a civil rights crime i mean on its face

it is discriminatory and the my mothers maiden name was scott i don't know if we have connections but the influence of poa and hiring practices delivers to us the history of officers coming from overwhelmingly from cardiac high schools and look at that and see influenced and pattern practices that are discriminatory. >> look at that on your plat. >> any more public comment. >> housing unit public comment is closed. >> thank you. can i say a

comment. >> item 4 public comment on all matters to item 6 closed session with public comment on to hold item 6 in closed session. >> any public comment to hold items in closed session hearing none public comment is closed. >> to held item of in closed session action. >> so moved. >> second. >> moved by president mazzucco and seconded by commissioner marshall. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? no. >> thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your comments and participation we're nowsession. >> commissioner vice president mazzucco we are back on the record in confrontation and you quorum item 7 vote to disclosure

any or all discussion on item of code action. >> do i have a motion wrote a to disclosure. >> i move. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> >> next speaker, please. >> adjournment action item. >> do i have a motion and thank you chief scott he did well. >> he's still here do i have a motion. >> so moved. >> >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> we're adjourned good afternoo

the san francisco planning commission regular i'd like to remind the members of the audience that the commission does not tolerate disruptions of any kind. and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. i'd like to call roll at this time. commissioner president hillis commissioner johnson commissioner koppel and commissioner moore. >> we do expect commissioner fong and commissioner melgar shortly and commissioner vice president richards will be absent commissioners, that places you under your is consideration of items proposed for continuance we have several bear with me case one at 2645 ocean avenue is proposed proposed for continuance to april and