wanted to thank you myself and for my family but more than that for the thousands of students we spend every year to city college from the san francisco unified school district this idea of free city college for every san francisco resident will open the doors to the high school redesign which is the hope that every one of our seniors from the san francisco unified school district would have a couple of college classes under in their belt to give them the confidence they too can be college students to thank you san francisco for the hundreds of thousands of people this will help not just help in the future but also as supervisor kim said also that we lead the way we show them how it is done if history repeats itself they

follow thank you very much. >> thank you supervisor fewer supervisor peskin thank you, madam president as you know i like to rise to this is something that is worst revising for supervisor kim has said repeatedly is a city of firs that ranks up there with our health care ordinance this ranks up with with our first in the country local minimum wage, this makes us proud to be san franciscans i can't thank supervisor kim and labor enough and as supervisor ronen said it goes far beyond the conditions of your faculty it is really about a rising tide truly rising all posts that is what makes labor great and it town for the second time proud to be a san

franciscan. >> supervisor safai supervisor tang are you ready supervisor safai. >> you didn't know supervisor peskin was going to finish so quickly laura just kidding. >> i'm notoriety everything but commend supervisor kim for your her leadership and on these are some of the things that were said over the last few days i want to add to the thanks untilness - i want to commend 2121 for your leadership and doing something that benefits everyone in the city for generations to come that's the

history. >> what the city was founded on that's why we have the sro conversation thank you supervisor peskin for your leadership and why is evolved this is another piece in the activity history and why doing those types of things benefits not only just those on the front line but everyone from the middle-income and upper market middle-income i want to say that was really, really important in the debate another way we lead in terms of setting the trends we'll make that should go something that will benefit everyone i know this benefits a lot of time but thank you 2121 and supervisor kim and everyone for holding the line on this being a benefit to everyone regardless of income but the first people had will be cut out is working families so for the

folks i represent thank you and thank you for your leadership. >> thank you supervisor safai supervisor tang i want to echo everyone's gratitude for not only supervisor kim, of course, and 2121 but shout out to ivy we have difficult xhfkdz when it came up during the course and see how to solve this funding issue and i i didn't was probably you know thank you thank you for all your hard work. >> thank you supervisor tang and i'll be brief first of all, i want to start by thanking supervisor kim for her leadership this was definitely no easy task to get done and she basically saw that there was a real possibility came up with the funding source and working with many communities

stakeholders to make something happen this is a wonderful day in san francisco what is so great about this we all know that education is the equal legislator making sure that people have access to education is a key to changing lives and doing better in our lives it happened to me, i'm grateful to every single one of you to make sure that none was left behind and free city college was made possible for every sentence of this so thank you to the labor council and 2121 and all the organizers but a special thank you to the people connie ford an amazing advocate for the community and amazing for all that is right in

making do everything she can to support the family in the city especially those who oftentimes start at a disadvantage thank you every single one of you for your advocacy that is an amazing day in san francisco you all will community-based down in san francisco history thank you to supervisor kim on your work. >> thank you supervisor president breed and, yes we will also allow you to speak as well but i was requirement and embarrassed thank you for acknowledging my staff ivy and contrary from the acknowledgements by hydra mendosa-mcdonnell i offered her a bottle of scotch you get commendations we'll celebrate together i also really want to thank the

board of supervisors for supporting this from the get-go asking hard questions and making sure that we were getting the program right but committed to making san francisco another first and bringing back city college free when supervisor fewer and i attended this great institution and, of course, i'm sure you'll state looking forward to seeing everyone enroll in a class in september for free so i give the floor to you auxiliary. >> thank you it was overwhelming by really beautiful and something so like to hear if everyone i think it speaks not just to the work we've done but the value of continental what we've done together and thank

you we've expanded the access it is universal for san franciscans that is profound i love san francisco that is my city i grew up here if you talk to me, you know i love my colleague and love the students i work with and it's been a hard several years for city college as you may know and nothing more profound or more beautiful that we could have down with the suffering and hardships and trials this is really so many bigger our accreditation crisis but a way that ma i do that possible because it was this entire city coming together behind the college in terms of the accreditation country that made it possible i've been proud to

be involved and so thankful to all of you for gambling and especially to supervisor kim and her staff and especially ivy league for digging in with just a wonder woman model and being tenacious and want to say our students are not here they are in their classes but for the students this is huge in making this support and built a much broader than 2121 or the labor council or jobs for justice a very large labor community, state coalition i'm proud to have been involved with and unfortunately, it is perhaps the easiest organizing we'll ever get to do because people were left behind so thank you for being part of that with all of us together and doing this for

your college and city. >> supervisors on behalf of the labor council i'm so proud to say i'm here and speak to you on such a united issue that was a year ago some of the struggle within the council e council because everyone knows that the labor council and union are divided and fight we're not exactly always aligned but on this issue we were aligned and last january we declared that was the number one issue that we wanted to work in and every single union step forward and in some way and how to make that event possible that was obviously the leadership of a f d 2121 obviously the community groups but it was so exciting to see labor for one of the first in a long time to

stand up and roar reroared together i was proud to be part of that leadership and come to this conclusion toy thank you, supervisor kim and thank you, supervisors supervisor breed and supervisor cohen for calling me out on my harassment thank you ivy i'm so touched to be here today as one of those things supervisor peskin mentioned all the other things we've passed throughout our history in the last 10 years minimum wage, health care all of those things this one feels profoundly profoundly like we're making a change for the city and making it so people have been pushed out and don't feel cared for having access to make that somehow and somewhere it is awesome to get my 5-year-old

grandson thank you so much. >> good afternoon. supervisors my name is - i'm here on behalf of the jobs for justice thank you, supervisor kim and ivy we serve at the h f p over - thank you for never having them make the choice of achieving between education and housing you made that possible they can do both and so, so appreciated. >> i wanted to reiterate what everyone has said before on the issues this is an incredible day for san francisco and i'm incredibly not been prouder to represent the people that i do at afp 2121 and worked together in coccyx and brought so many people together i'm so proud to live here in san

francisco and see the support that we've gotten around this and it is just overwhelming to say i want to thank the leadership of supervisor kim without your you being a champion or work with ivy this wouldn't have happened and the other champions in the local really led the fight on this and everybody hsa who has been involved the work and commitment (calling names) incredible work i'm so proud of everyone thank you very much. >> (clapping.) >> supervisor kim it you can bring them in the well, we'll take pictures to resume our business thank you.

>> okay. we'll recess for one minute thank you, everyone for your patience. >> all right. we're back all right. thank you each and everyone and congratulations again thank you for all your hard work now i'd like to recognize supervisor peskin. >> thank you, madam president for acknowledging me again on roll call. >> actually that is commendations. >> commendations excuse me - let me say that last weekend the ms. chinatown pageant happened

as it does every year in chinatown the first year that ms. pack was not residing i'm delighted to announce you can avail yourselves of free city college but more importantly as you see in the political arena all of us are winners but some of us actually get to be board president i'd like to acknowledge ms. karen yang who received the title and all of the rest of the housed here that has joined us at the board of supervisors congratulations thank you all for participating and may 2017 bring you my new year's and spring banquet i look forward to seeing you all over san francisco and thank you for your joining us. >> (clapping.) >> thank you supervisor peskin

acknowledging that we have royalty in the building. >> at a time a true fact many yang might want to say a few words. >> ms. yang would you like to come up and speak. >> my former chief of staff rose was the recipient of that exact title many, many years ago. >> i'm not going that. >> don't go there. >> i've got our back rose. >> good afternoon my name is karen and i'm not from san francisco i'm from houston, texas but currently studying as a freshmen another harvard math and economics i want to thank you guys hearing about the bill that was passed that strikes a chord with me growing up i valued my education and my parents are immigrant if china and living in the village they had to work through

studying hard to come to america so something that really is like powerful in my family i really saw offhand i want to applaud you, your making a difference in people's lives and many of my classmates wouldn't be able to come to a school like that without financial support and also just this entire experience has been amazing i've met incredible people and learned about my heritage and so cool to see my what a great country how accepting we are of people and how diverse thank you for having us happen chinese new year. >> thank you supervisor peskin. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> i don't know what we said but

okay. >> thank you, again. >> now we will go back to our regularly business on the board of supervisors madam clerk we were at roll call for introduction and we are on the next supervisor. >> thank you, madam president supervisor cohen you were submitting. >> yes. madam clerk i'd like to submit. >> supervisor farrell supervisor farrell submits supervisor safai want to be referred. >> thank you colleagues i'd like to end this meeting in memoriam of ms. albert an amazing woman known for having a big heart and warm smile her generous spirit endeared her to friends and strangers this sense of public duty led her to be a licensed nurse for home of haven for children and great took her

matriarch job best and made a great pie will lead on to the history and the rest i submit. >> thank you supervisor safai madam president seeing no other names on the roster, that concludes the introduction of new business and mcto our special order 3:00 p.m. please. yes item 26 the board of supervisors will common in a board of supervisors sitting as a committee of the whole. pursuant to motion m 16 danish 164 approved in 2016 for a public hearing to receive the update on the final findings the blue ribbon panel on transparent, accountability and fairness in law enforcement thank you supervisor cohen would you, you like to make a motion to continue this item.

>> yes. excuse me - and make a few remarks. >> thou commissioner breed i'll make a motion to continue this to march 7 but give an explanation given we have a new police chief sworn in recent and the department of justice i believe that is prudent and in our best interests to continue this taking the time of chief scott will give him a chance to be prepared about the recommendations from the federal government most noteworthy the updated use of force policy that has recently been implemented i own unifying you'll continue this item until march 7 thank you. >> thank you supervisor cohen supervisor cohen has made a motion to continue this to march

72017 seconded by supervisor peskin is there my public comment on the continuance seeing none, public comment is closed. and madam clerk on the motion to continue madam clerk, please call the roll. >> supervisor fewer supervisor kim supervisor peskin supervisor ronen supervisor safai supervisor sheehy supervisor tang supervisor yee supervisor breed supervisor cohen supervisor farrell there are 11 i's. >> okay. this item will be continued to the meeting of march 7, 2017 madam clerk let's go to the networks item. >> at this time the the jurisdiction of the board pursuant

as a whole and not to individual board members, no one is required to comment on your matter. speakers using translation services get up to twice the time. and if you need to put up a document on the overhead advise sfgovtv, and take it down when you are finished. >> first speaker please. >> good afternoon. my name is gisele represent the sro hotel coalition and i wanted to be heard with the brown act and with the. >> i'm pawing your. ma'am, that item has already had it's public comment at committee.

>> right. i wanted to speak during the general public comment under the brown act. >> unfortunately you will not be able to specifically speak on that particular item since it's been heard in committee you can talk about the the subject property in general. >> okay. so but - in general speaking are with respect to i had problems with a notice that was given and the supervisor in the manner of giving their notice because of that we feel their would be a need to open up an additional comment period we smeptd a letter part of record on the amendments to the hotel conversion ordinance we hope you'll consider and also i did want to raise an issue a

substantive change to the ordinance pertaining to the. >> i'm sorry we can't allow you to specifically speak on an item that was heard here and had public comment in committee unfortunately so you're getting into details and if you want we can have someone talk with you on the side to completely explain why we can't do that unfortunately but not allow you to make specific public comment about that particular item unfortunately. >> okay. >> i understand that i just wanted to come up here and raise our objection. >> we'll have someone talk with you thank you next speaker, please. >> madam president for the record i'm talked with council and indicated we're in receipt of millers letter and has been submitted to the deputy city attorney present here.

>> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> the mother of yolanda who was murdered with the quadrant homicide i'm coming here in 2015 a and coming here in regards to me approaching one the board of supervisors to liberalism know i've lived in bayview hunters point for 12 years and seen have been nothing but joel stapes tapes i gave a suggestion it would be nice to have beautiful african poles put up to acknowledge all the black children and boys and girls that has been murdered in san francisco to acknowledge their family members and from that the 200 poles have begun in bayview hunters point but i received a phone call this morning there was a new newsletter that my

name was not acknowledged i received phone calls myself have not been allocated as the instrument of making those poles happen in bayview hunters point so i'm here to bring it to the table the community is asking that myself be acknowledged i'm acknowledging all of the young boys and girls that have been murdered in san francisco and also the flags that will be going up and in memory 4 obesity and acknowledge the beauty of our cultural as oomentsd in america reilly we were taken part of the slave trade this is a celebration time but i'd like it to be acknowledged in the community that i believe acknowledged for the contribution of those poles thank you very kindly. >> thank you for your comments >> next speaker, please. >> hello, everyone i was kind

of puzzled i sang songs but new supervisors i want to welcome you to city hall you may call it city hall i call it silly hall. i welcomed the city to put things together but addressing here for blaement i'm appalled of the city and county didn't make necessary that i'm speaking to you individually but collectively i'm appalled at the city and county asia why are you appalled i'm the discharge if you for those of you who don't know mayor back then enthusiasm and london queen bee on the committee a study was put together recommendations put together but nothing was

implement back then a deficit of one hundred million dollars now ed lee i know for 20 something years way i want to the budget nothing mentions nothing mentioned about out migration and black folks it is a shame but as long as embody gives me breath we're going to be telling the city by the bay everyone need to hear what i do got to see i'll go internet one day one of my stories might go viral and someone might ask ace play to play all of that ace know all about that and the individual

my name is ace and i'm on the case. and happy black history month. >> my members of the public want to address the board during general public comment. >> my other members of the public want to provide public comment at this time seeing none, public comment is closed. madam clerk to the next item >> item 29 a considered for denounces without reference to committee to support california state bill offered by the senator to limit the law enforcement with the exhibition enforcement. >> supervisor ronen colleagues i've circulated some amendments technical changes that add clarity and further describe the value and important of the policies i wanted to also thank all of my co-sponsors of the resolution supervisor fewer supervisor kim and supervisor

peskin and supervisor safai supervisor breed and supervisor tang pr commissioner coppel please add supervisor cohen as to the sponsorship with that, i'd like to make a motion to amend the resolution with the changes and the documented i circulated thank you supervisor ronen has a maid a motion to amend with the amendment that right hand been calculated seconded by supervisor peskin colleagues without objection were without objection the amendment passed unanimously and on the item as amended colleagues, can we take that same house, same call? without objection this item as amended passes unanimously all right. madam clerk next item. >> in memoriam madam president. >> oh, hey please read the in terms of today's meeting will be

adjoined on behalf of the supervisor sheehy for the late ms. megan powers on behalf of supervisor peskin for mildred barker and on behalf of supervisor safai for rose albert apologizes. >> colleagues that brings us to the end of our agenda no further business before the commission. that concludes our business for today thank you we're adjourned

soon. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> greeting of peace brothers and sisters and esteemed guests we thank you very much for joining us here and society of san francisco during this critical time in our countries history first i want to thank the following city leaders for your work and commitment in protecting and advancing values we would like to thank our esteemed mayor, mayor ed lee, the city attorney district attorney george gascon, ms. sheryl davis the human right director of human right commission, human right commissioner, san francisco police department

the city attorney's office are faith leader if in this city a special thanks we want to give a special thanks to mayor ed lee who showed up here the day after the election i thought out of the country he came to assure the muslims of this city they have nothing the fear we want to thank him a special thanks for his leadership of the diverse community in san francisco and like to say it him and unapologetic fight for the city's dignity and justice and civil right and renewed strength we believe for elected officials throughout the country so we would like to thank him thank

you, mr. mayor and i saw one time thank you very much for our beloved mayor, we hope and actually prefer that he runs again (laughter). >> i hope so but it is possible we can keep the time so we can complete this by 12:30 by the grace of god mayor ed lee. >> (clapping.) >> thank you, mohammed thank you for the societies warm welcome happy new year everybody and you know, i can't think of a better way to celebrate the traditional new year and also the upping lunar new years but with people of diverse background coming to the islamic society people i

will working closely with particular this year and years to come and to celebrate the coming together of leadership in all our diverse community to protect and enhance and share the love the city has to continue to be the inclusive city we've always wanted to be i know that mohammed had already listed names. >> thank you to jeff adachi our public defender's office who is a great part of the coalition of the departments but also the sarcastic constituents community-based organizations that joined together in the education the legal education network in the legal defense and the legal rights collaborative in i did minority communities that are hard working to get the 50 thousand legal resident in our city into pathways to

citizenships organization likewise self-help or the kind of groups that are standing behind me that represent our superintendant lee i think there are 3 board members here from the unified school district our incredible help community that everyday wants to make sure that people are not living in fear and can actually take care of their health and safety challenges and today today's announcement of the equity and rights and community education immigrant rights campaign is all about getting rid of and reducing fear in our city fear exacerbates your health fear prevents parents address kids from getting the education necessary need and president in in city fear drives people underground to create three quarters only

underground economy fear stops people fear is what we contest against we want people that are in san francisco to live their lives freely and proudly and society themselves with the religion they wish to our orientation the way they wish to and the community of color and the community we wish to be in this is what san francisco is all about and mohammed we're here with the islamic society sang are part of dominates and certainly as the mayor i take it privileged not just to say that but to put the resources together to defend and enhance it today equity immigrant to the

additional three hundred 8 modified to protect the get together right and push this forward and work with the over one thousand plus bar associations leadership that is doing pro bono work in addition to the work we provide for the community-based organizations to enhance that by an additional one and a half million dollars to go to the collaborative to the network to pathways to citizenship the legal education and make sure that our city's family of diversities stays intact no matter what the announcements or the detail no matter what potential attacks there might be from the federal authenticities we'll be that city of refuge and sanctuary we'll protect ourselves and make sure that people boo live in

fear i'll hear some individual stories from people and hear from the agencies that want to do even better and make sure we reach out correctly in all the 20 different languages of people that live in our city and hear from the leaders that is a not just protecting but to provide a pathway forward to citizenship this is what the city is all about not status quo but advancing people's lives and we're right here at the center that has the nameed but potentially elected officials being a target a target perhaps on a registry perhaps associated with a religion that some people may not have a correct more positive attitude about i know any ancestors that lived here

wizards ago they're an a registry a registry that prevented them from voting and owning property outside this area call chinatown i know that first hand from the stories i've heard over and over over again by people that were victims of discriminations and in all aspects came to this country seeking a better life almost just obedient in every way living they're free lives and paying takes and doing hard work life is hard because of the barriers we face i celebrate those lives and again and again particularly this year with the additional resources because again, we will not allow our residents to be in fear for their lives or their families so this is the way i think we should celebrate the new year bringing all the families

diversities together in the city and giving them the support they need and rising up out the fear that is real and potential we'll be together throughout the entire year if not more to make sure we campaign 80 communicate to all the residents congratulations and continue the strong effort to support everyone to make sure they can live their lives proudly thank you for joining us . >> (clapping.) >> hello my name is sheryl davis i'm the director of the human rights commission the human rights commission exists to support the acts the discriminations and help people filed complaints one of the areas we focus obsess the sanctuary city ordinance we are grateful to partner with our sister agency mayor's office of economic workforce development

and the immigrant rights and affairs to highlight we're here to talk about the fear that exists and the things that are happening not just in san francisco but nation wide we want to provide a space for people to come and share what was happening and support them through the process we will be working with the collaborative opportunity to host workshops do you know your rights session to make sure that people know their voting rights and how to have access to the resources and working with the school district to do simple workshops to make sure that people know we're a place of love and not just a place to come to exercise activities and behave in a manner this not in like that with the goals of san francisco we're launching our eligibility campaign that is around immigrant rights we want to make

sure that everyone understand san francisco is a city for all and everybody should feel comfortable if you feel your discriminated against finds us we'll help you feel safe and secure and included in san francisco i'm grateful to partnership with the office of city engagement and looking forward to launching and moving forward thank you. >> (clapping.) >> hi, everyone i'm adrian executive director of the civic engagement and immigrant affairs san francisco is one of the futile city's in the nation that has a department that is focused on policies and services for immigrants and monolingistic community we have an immigrant rights commission and together with a broad network of community service providers and legal defense organizations and

city agencies we work to make sure that san francisco is a welcoming and inclusive and safe place for all providing a continuum of support from assets and legal services assistants for the young dreamers and citizenship and leadership training on civic engagement and a number of services we all seek to make sure that all have access to the critical health and society services they have opportunity to drive and parking lot participate in the city's success we face a new administration many demonstrated unprecedented disregard for the rule of law for basically human right and decency and respect or right-hand turn for all people in the coming years we need to w. to fight for civil and human right for justice and quality

for all people not just some we have 3 courageous residence to share their personal experience and stories first is mr. why a long time resident it emigrated from hong kong and his family are finds the pasta to citizenship interpreting is ms. ann self-help for the pathway to citizenship leadership thank you. >> (clapping.) >> >> (speaking foreign

language.) >> >> (clapping.) >> i'm going to translate for mr. honk 79-year-old came from

hong kong in 2011 came here not knowing a word of english once you reach the 5 years residency i'll apply to be a u.s. citizenship this journey will be difficult and no self-help for the elderly leading a group of cso calling the pathway to citizenship initiative 6 months ago we attended a 7 day workshops and waited for a long time but got all the serial number application forms filled out for him and 3 members of his family and also got the fee waiver together he saved over $2,000 he's a very happy one of the family member already became a u.s. citizen and him and his wife have been footprint and

filed out the necessary forms the advertising on a pro bono basis have provided and attending citizenship classes as self-help and some other agencies have provided fund and on behalf of the folks wanted to thank mayor ed lee for the opportunity thank you. >> (clapping.) >> okay. we're next going to hear from a client of the delores community services where attorneys provided legal assistants to her and her children and interpreting for her amateur from the office of civic engagement and immigrant

affairs. >> (clapping.) >> >> (speaking foreign language.) >> my name is ann actual. >> i arrived to the united states last i'm a single mother. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> since i don't have any relatives it became hard to get legal services and work. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> a friend of mine referred me to them and they referred me 2 to 3 the delores street services. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> when i went to the delores

street services they provided serves fyi for people of low income and the services will be for free as well. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> when i got higher was living in a shelter i'm still living in a shelter but now i can have a legal status that brings me peace of mind especially i'm a single mother and have children.

>> (speaking foreign language.) >> i don't have much else to say i'm very, very thankful about the services that are provided like myself and many immigrant we count on the services and very thankful for them. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> i'd like to thank the delores street services and the mayor as well thank you. >> (clapping.) >> wanted to thank and pointed out that we have been enjoying our wonderful service naomi kelly who has been supportive of all those services we provide to the city we are honored to hear 23 dr susan a family member at ucsf judgemental was born and raised in north carolina she

attended college and medical school following the hate killings of her family we demonstrated here wilt to clearly articulate the threat of islamic to be and results to phobia and hate we're lucky to hear from her today doctor. >> (clapping.) >> thank you all for thank you for having me. and thank you to those who shared their powerful stories we heard are not just examples or scenarios how this campaign may help we're talking about real people with real struggles members and interest rates of our society that rely on our leadership to protect the rights of all people unfortunately, we live in a time where hatred is very real my name is dr susan barry cot

and mayor ed lee is touches me in many ways as a sister who lost her brother and sisters as we were murdered cooperation style in their home by their neighborhoods because of their faith and who works at jennifer lowe dedicated to servicing underserved with a mission of working towards social justice my family looked at different those photos were done as children of immigrants who were known that for their legacy of service and compassion that pains me they were taken at the prime of their youth by hatred

my family is not alone and as a private attorney provider in the clinic many of the folks rely on the services we offer in a time of uncertainty i hear patient after patient share with me in their justifiable fear they hear they're not welcome their children are taught and bullied at school health and safety derates and not enough resources for the vulnerable those are people that with come to our city to find refuge a city that is complaining the underserved that is important now more than ever for the leaders a galvanize the resources and protect the right of all constituents i'm honored to stand next to our mayor and the entire team that

does just that thank you. >> (clapping.) >> thank you, dr. bar cot and thank you to the islamic society of the san francisco for hosting us ♪ sacred space and all the partnerships and pathways to citizenship initiative the network that the immigrant and legal education network and the san francisco legal collaborative, the san francisco san francisco unified school district department of children, youth dcyf and public defender's office the mayor's office of housing and community development, the immigrant rights commission the human rights commission, the office of civic engagement and the zoning administrator office and to mayor ed lee's staff and the director of the violence prevention and especially to our

leader mia's you've heard the threat of our human right and religion is not across the ocean in a far away land it is here and now nearly 17 years ago over one hundred americans of japanese descent were illegally incarcerated in concentration camps those camps exist could i so in the threat that lies before us inspiration hope and faith in the human spirit and in the undying belief that together we can create an equal and more just society to everyone this ended our event because this is a place of worship we ask you leave the stage as quickly as possible thank you very much

>> welcome to the department of building inspection brown bag lunch. today we have an extremely special event. we are here at paige glass on mission street in san francisco with mr. ken paige. ken paige has generously invited us into his glass shop and gallery. and the paige glass goes back a long, long time, right? to preearthquake, whichever earthquake -- >> all of them. they're all good. >> when did paige glass start? >> the big one, 1906. >> this happened afs in your family, was paige glass back

then? >> well, the 1906 was a very important year, of course, for san francisco, needless to say. the bad news was the death and destruction, city in flames. the good news for my grandfather was even though he was living, at that point, in a tent out in golden gate park, you know, one of a whole lot of people. the good news, he was a young glazer, and every window in the city was broken. >> a holy grail of glazing. >> [laughter.] >> so at that point, shortly after the tremors sopped, he said wait a minute, i've got this idea. so paige glass really started in 1906, with that quake. >> wow. >> and he was so busy, he didn't really form an actual company-company, a registered company till 1910. i think that was the first time

he had to catch his breath. so, officially, as a company, we're 1910, even though he started in the big '06 quake. >> and this is a really interesting building, which i hadn't planned to talk much about, but this was an unreenforced macery building, i presume. >> it was. >> and it is heavily reenforced. as you walk around, you will see large steel members and all sorts of other kinds of reenforcement, which are really done as well as i've ever seen this done in san francisco. >> we were also the first building to be seismically r reenforced k bracing after the quake in '89. >> what was the '89 earthquake for you like in the glazing business? >> again, the good news was most of the windows were broken in the city. the bad news was all of our inventory here all fell over. so we had about eight debris

boxes of inventory that we shoveled out. but we have very good relationship with our supplier. so it came in just as fast as it went out. so we were bs busy, busy. working 24 hours a day. >> what were the notable jos, did you do the neiman marcus in. >> no. i-mag is a beautiful building, beautifully designed, except all the windows were in stainless steel frames, and the glass that have installed was glass that wasn't tempered, and they were glazed very, very tightly with a putty that had a hardener in it. so it was like they were encased in concrete, essentially. and so there was no room for these things to go, or to wiggle at all. so they all broke.

well 85% of them broke. >> so the code requires that glazing not take the load of the building, as the building moves. the glazing is not supposed to be the element that resists the force of the building, because that is not going to work. glazing will break. and we can see now, in almost all buildings, that there is some kind of attachment system that allows the building to flex, and it does not harden. and we very carefully inspect and require a careful inspection of that and you have a handout today that has many of the code requirements in it and we can provide that handout if anybody wants to call us or pick one up here. you said eneeled glass. what is that. >> that was it, that was -- well, glass. and it is -- they heat up the glass. they pour it.

and they let it cool. but they put it into a special eneeling oven so that it cools down gradually. it can be broken. >> is this used for window glass? >> window glass is eneeled glass. the eneeling is important because if you just let it cool naturally it sets up strain patterns and will break by itself. it gets very, very fragile. so the eneeling is good. buttarily on, we had this -- but early on we had this interesting product called tempering. it's a crazy thing. you heat the glass up again, and you cool it down really fast, and then all of a sudden it sets up strain patterns within the surface of the glass that makes it impact resistance. and when it breaks, whoa, it makes it into a thousand tiny little crystals.

and so it's, at that time, a new product. unusual. since then, it's common. i mean almost all glass that we sell, other than table tops for windows, is tempered glass. >> do we have some regular glass we can take a look at. >> we do. >> i think we're all familiar with it. >> well, this is just your basic window pane glass. and -- >> and it can be cut to size. >> it can be cut, and quickly. so you're going to use this for, you know, small windows, and picture frames, things like that. >> you would not use that in what are considered hazardous locations in a door, or next to a door, next to a walking surface. >> window glass is really not a mysterious thing. but it's great material. it's quick. it's easy. the problem is you get something

that -- it's actually stronger than you think, huh. oops. ashes to ashes, dust to dust. but you can see, it's really not meant for safety glazing. i remember as a kid, you know, running -- my brother chasing me, running with my hat, putting my hat -- when the door used to be open, and it's now closed. i still have a scar there. but at this point, of course, anything in a door is going to be tempered. >> or some other type of sait glazing. -- safety glazing. it could be laminated. >> or plaque. >> there's an interesting new product, and i don't know if you're been dealing with it, you probably have, which is two layers some kind of glass, with a film of plastic, but it's actually an intoo mess ens material and as it heats up, it foams up and forms a fire

protective barrier within the glass. you can use these glazing units as a wall. they're actually not windows, they're walls. and we've seen this being used around san francisco, so that you have a fully rated, tested wall, that might be a one-hour wall, which is your typical property line wall, which is transparent, until there's a fire, when it changes, foams comes up. >> is that the kind of glass you would use for a balcony if you wanted to see through and have a protective shield? >> no. you don't want to use that product if you don't want to because it's inexpensive. >> i've heard it's $60 a quair foot. is that anywhere near -- >> no. you know, this can be closer to twice that, anyway. >> really. >> and so the -- and it would require a special frame. it requires a steel frame. for a balcony, what you would expect to see is half inch

tempered glass. and that's really not very expensive. and but the thing there is, you're going to have to probably do it in pieces so that, in case one of those pieces broke, you'd still have that handrail that goes across the top of that, keeping you back so that you aren't falling over with the broken glass. >> right. and the code talks about other types of protection. you can't just have a single piece of glass, without some other type of protection, and it's in this handout that you have here. >> that code may change with the advent of special materials. eventually, we will come and say -- and it's been supplied in different cities, where we take a century -- it's called century guard, whereas there is this piece of plastic in between a couple of pieces of one eneeled,

and one heat treated and the other tempered, so that even if it broke it stays together and stays rigid. so there really isn't reason then for that top handrail. >> the building code in san francisco says that we can approve products that are not specifically required or meet the requirements of the building code, if can be shown to us that there's a rational basis for approval, that they're meeting the intent of the code. we can approve an alternate method or material and we do that a lot now, especially with new materials flooding the market. we have to look at things on a case by case, use by use basis, and we would consider this sort of thing. protective glazing, wired glass, we see traditionally all over. >> so we've got wired glass here. you know, it's a product that we used to sell a lot of.

but almost a product whose time has come. i mean this is an obscure wire glass, with -- it's rated 45 minutes for fire. but the problem is there's no impact. so this is not -- at one time, you could put this in a fire door, only in a -- there was a time when they put this in shower doors. and so clearly that's not legal anymore, with good reason, besides the fact that all of the wires rusted. there's some pretty nasty-loo nasty-looking shower doors that we replaced. the other thing is it's not terribly strong, cracks easily, and -- >> if you put your hand through it, or to it, you can get seriously injured. it looks like it's supposed to be safe. it is actuall actually not terre for human impact. >> so at this point, there are some -- because it's got wires

in it, you really couldn't temper it before. now i believe there is somebody that can temper it. how well it's tempered, i couldn't say. but it's legally tempered. sore sometimes you can put like a safety film on the back of it, and that would give you, again, some impact protection. but it's really not a contrary product. it's seldom -- we used to go through cases of this stuff. now we sell practically nothing of this. but it breaks -- i mean we all -- primarily what we're seeing this is in sky lights that are existing around town. it holds together, as we see. you know, so this is the advantage. it's all held together. but, you know, it's not a perfect product.

and primarily, what's taken its place is laminated glass, which you don't have those wires in it. people don't want to see those wires. and so laminated is probably most skylights that we do are laminated. or an insulated glass, where the laminated is on the bottom, and tempered is on the top. >> with an air space -- >> with an air space. the laminated, at one time, they used to sell tempered skylights but they really didn't work terribly well. yes it breaks into little safety cubes but if it's falling from 100 feet above -- >> the code had a provision that you had to have a net underneath to catch the pieces, if it broke. >> which i'm using. so at this point, not going there.

it's laminated on the bottom, tempered on the top, so that a fireman can really walk over this on the rooftop, and whatever. you know, it's good for the top. bottom is protected. so that's primarily where most wire glass has gone. >> just a comment about skylights in the building code. skylights of glass can be located at any distance from that property line protection that i mentioned earlier. typically in san francisco when you're on a property line you have to have a one hour wall. olderbles don't have it but after the 60s they do. this can be right up to the edge of the roof. however, a plastic sky light may not be. a plastic sky light has to be kept back how far from the edge of the roof, one of you building inspectors? three feet from the edge of the roof. i'm not sure why but that's specifically regulated. >> partly because the plastic is

flammable. the plastic heats up -- the bad part about plastic is that it will burn and melt. at one point in time, lexan was the cure-all for everything. you can't do this, you can't do that, it's indestructible. a major jewelry store put it in their windows, and they were home-safe, it's perfect. till a enterprising burglar took a hand torch and did a perfect circle in and reached right on through. it melted the perfect little hole and moved on. so what we do the glazing for tiffany's around the united states, and what we do for them is a piece of leksan in the center, half inch leksan and

water white and extra star fire on -- >> what is that water white or star fire do? >> it's extra -- glass has -- so the street layers cep them protected. they -- kept them protected. they haven't had any major burglaries to point. >> somebody is working on it. >> well the product has become expensive because of the three lawyers so they put an additional layer of mylar graffiti film over the outside so in case it's scratched then we pull off that sacrificial layer and put on a new piece of plastic which is cheaper than replacing that whole window. in terms of clarity, the regular glass is fairly green. and the thicker it is, the emreener it gets. this table here is a slumped piece of glass. and it's about two, two and a

half inches thick. and that is just the natural color of regular glass. and from different minerals that are in glass, there's -- you know, when it's sand and soda, and whatever minerals are in the sand gives it the color of the glass. so that's copper and iron that are giving that green look. there's another product called star fire, and that they're opti white is another name, that is nor clear. this is more clear. you can see on the edge, even though we're picking it up, this glass is a little more clear. there's another product called water white which is as clear as plastic, and just really, really clear. and so that's your next grade up in terms of being truly clorlless coralles coralless co.

>> tiffany has a product which has as little barrier as possible. >> tiffany does not want you looking at green diamonds. the new laminated glass gives us different directions on what we can do. certainly we see that used in glass walkways. we're doing -- and of course the code on what can be used for a sky light that you can walk on, a walking surface, is very antiquated, as it's written -- >> it certainly is. it was originally written for the subsidewalk basement areas and other areas where the glazing is broken up into little squares. do you still replace those little glazing squares for the sidewalk? >> we have circles, walking down market street, which again tells you how old am i. we used to have all those little

circles, you'd walk down and a lot turned purple with age because the sun was catalyzing. and so there were some little squares, yes. but that's changed. at this point, we do a lot of stair treads that are one inch thick. it's interesting to see the apple store on market street, where everything is glass. the stair treads are one inch glass, half inch treated on the top, and 0909, polyvinyl beaut rat in between. ordinariarily laminated grass -- it has a 090 tempered piece on the bottom. >> it is remarkable to walk in. the stairs is in front of you and it's transparent, maybe a little bit greenish, maybe, directly in front of you, and

it's all glass. beautiful. >> we're doing a lot of areas where you're walking on -- bigger pieces where it's not supported quite so well, we use an inch and a half so you've got three layers of glass, and you can dance on it or whatever el else. fluid, as a disco bar near the four seasons on mission street for all you younger people. and they've got a lineup to get in there, one of those. and they have this dance floor that's covered with this inch and a half glass. and lights underneath. and it's very impressive. >> i think it's the indian reservation just built a projection of glass over the grand canyon. >> yes. >> and it has a glass floor, i understand. >> yes. >> read anything about that? >> i showed the picture to my

wife, and she turned white, and says i'm not going. >> [laughter.] >> so like 2,000 feet straight down on a glass floor, wow. >> but it's perfectly safe, and all that. and that's kind of the excitement of glass, is being able to see through it, except there is an additional state requirement, ubc, that says, wait a minute, this is all fine and well, but i don't want you slipping on this. and so a certain percentage of that then has to be either sand blasted, or have like little dots on it, like the floors at niketown at union square, when you walk on it, it has raised dots so that you aren't skidding. >> that's a requirement primarily in the disabled access regulations of chapter 11 of the california building code and national ada requirements, which gives it a index of -- what is

it called? slip resistant index, coefficient of friction. that's in a path of travel open to the public. there would not be a requirement for slip resistance in a private dwelling. >> the good news is that there's a new product, which is totally, totally clear, and it's slip resistant. it's like a coating that goes on, you don't know it's there, so the glass can remain totally clear, and you can walk on it, but you don't slip. >> do you have to reapply it? >> no. >> the reapplication is a problem. so when they opened the san francisco center, nordstro nordstrom's downtown, they have ramps on the ground floor, very gentle ramps but highly polish polished. the inspector said this is a slipping hazard and they said we will provide this non-skid

material that we're going to paint on every six months or a year. >> the building and fire codes generally do not allow people to have to do something on a continuing basis to meet the requirements of the code. i'm pleased to hear that there's a baked on finish that meets that standard that doesn't have to be reapplied. >> well because sometimes you're using this. we did a back-painted shower where everything in this shower was chromium green. and -- yeah. >> nice. >> and including the floors. and so it's all back-painted glass. so you don't want to -- i mean, gosh, i could slip -- you could slide on a thing like that. and so it's this non--slip glass. >> i wanted to know what kind of glass is made of -- in tanks, where you can shoot through. >> the answer is it's a laminated glass.

they're using a -- but instead of laminating it with a polyvinyl beautate, they're using their own product, which is a different kind of acrylic that they've got proprietary rights on, that is more gummy, it's something that they have formed there. but it's essentially like a sheet plastic, but of a different configuration, and extra clear, that they laminate between pieces of tempered glasses. those pieces in the tanks are about that thick. and they are slanted so that they can't see glare. and what we have to do in a tank, or -- on the inside, where you are shooting from, is you

have to put a laminated piece of glass or plastic to the inside. because the impact of a bullet going towards that glass won't penetrate, but the force of it will create the inside glass to spall. so you've got this sprintering of glass -- splintering unless you have this on the inside to keep you safe. >> what ems have you got here? >> well, since we're talking about... laminated glass, let's go for -- let's start with maybe patterned glass. patterned glass -- almost all of it starts off as eneeled glass. these are bathroom windows which you'd expect to see, but almost always it's eneeled unless it's

in a shower bath or in a hazardous location. as it is, it's going to break the same way that ordinary glass does. and you just can go right on up through the spectrum. this is quarter inch plate. >> what would that typically be used for? >> well, this has got a slight tint to it. but you would -- again, you would find this on windows, oh, a lot of windows in office buildings are -- buildings downtown on montgomery, all high rises that were -- >> is plate tempered or not tempered, typically? >> plate is not tempered, unless -- >> specifically required, okay. >> so in the old days, it was -- you can look at a spec, and some of the old specs, it will say quarter inch pp, which is a give

away of how old the architect is. because if it says quarter inch pp that means quarter inch polished plate. at a time, there was a time when plate wasn't polished. it was just kind of rolled out and it would have a slight wiggle to it. and because it was poured one end of the glass would be a little thicker at this end, a little thinner at that end. so when we glaze these things you put the thicker end down because that would be the -- and the wife's tale is glass is liquid. thicker in the middle. and we have to explain, no, that's not the case. it was put in that way. >> can you tell us, when they

pour it, what do they pour it on? >> well, the whole process changed, really. it would be pouring it probably on a steel kind of thing. but at this point, the process changed largely during -- after world war ii. set up rebuilt belgium, rebuilt france, rebuilt -- so before all our glass was domestic and after world war ii it became foreign. they had all the new factories and we had the old ones. so they set up a product, and they would pour it and polish it automatically, so it was perfectly flat. and that was the origin of the polished plate. then, subsequently a process came up called float glass. and that was just revolutionized

the industry because they poured glass out on a bed of hot tin, voluntary-in tin. why this -- vol tin tin. how they came up with that -- they just poured it on the bed and it was self-leveling and they made it so fast, cooled it down -- i mean you go to the factory in stockton and it's just like making cellophane or whatever. this comes in, comes out, bam. and it's now, you know, inexpensive and quick. and so the word -- technically it's not polished but it's just plate. it works. and so the question is how thin do you want it. so then your window glass is done the same way now. so it's all done on this little thinner. what we have here is a product -- again, 3/16.

this used to be called -- again, the old term was crystal. if you talk to somebody my age, they would say -- because 3/16 was always poured glass and always crystal. they didn't do a twin ground. so it is the same thing as the quarter inch. and you still see it around because they put it in where they're trying to lighten a way. you want to put it in a window so it's not so heavy on a double-hung. it's a good product, but again, you know. you know, it's like window glass, you just have to hit it just a little harder. plate glass, same way. you know, this is what essentially was in i-magnum. this is what's in the mills building. this is what's in the rust building. this is what's in th in the hurt

building. there's putty around them. they're going to shift. the wood kind of comes and goes. so it takes quite a bit to break a piece of plate because -- i mean you can -- this will take quite a bit of vertical weight but if it gets bound or whatever, you know, if you just get it in the wrong spot, that's what happens. >> we're seeing some major high rises going up near the bay bridge and south of market and i'm wondering what kind of glass is being installed in those towers, and what will be the effect in an earthquake. >> ooh, excellent question. >> oh, boy. i think i will -- the right answer is when you come off of that part of bay, i always get in the left-hand lane. >> [laughter.] >> but there are -- those are tempered. and, you know, presumably, they will shift.

and what it depends on how much this whole thing swins, whether there's enough give and take in those frames so that they don't crack. i have seen tempered glass in the los angeles quake, where the tempered glass actually kept the building together. it was acting like plywood. big surprise. the tempered caught right at the frames and it was the tempered clearly that was keeping everything together. the building was going this way, and the glass was acting almost like a sheer wall. other times it totally collaps collapsed. seismically, ooh, that's a laurence question. >> they have limits on what both the transient drift and permanent drift is allowed to be, how far they are allowed to sway and how far they're allowed to be out of plumb. what they calculate it to be they come up with a resilient system of setting the glazing so that at the levels of drift

there should be no pressure placed against the glazing. so that's the design. we will wait for a big earthquake and see how it plays out. but should be okay. the drift issues are things that we've been talking about for these high rise buildings. what are appropriate drift limits, and how much can a 600 foot building be permanently displaced and still be an acceptable building. how long can we expect the glazing in one of these new buildings to last? >> the state of california pushed the idea of, ooh, insulated glass is the answer to everything. it will keep energy down, and heat in. this is mandated, insulated glass. the problem is that they -- the public is not fully aware that insulated glass does not last forever. and that in time, it will -- it's reliant on a seal around the perimeter, and it will fog up.

and it depends on the manufacturer of the kind -- who manufactured it, what kind of guarantee do you have. and sometimes that guarantee could be as little as a year, or five years, for some of the cheaper stuff. the best stuff, they're garden 10 years. >> what about the glass itself. in my house we have hundred-year-old windows. >> the glass will be there forever but the thing inside will fog up in insulated glass. if you're lucky, you can get 20 years out of something, or 25 would be a lot. in these high rises, the probs -- the homeowners associations don't always realize that so when they put money aside for repairs, -- i'm president of the four seasons homeowners association and we're putting money each year towards replacement of the windows. there are other associations that are not doing that, and

sometimes they come up with a big surprise, and say all of a sudden they get this 75,000, 100,000 assessment. it's not something i guess that the city can legislate, perhaps, but -- >> that's interesting -- >> but it's something everybody needs to know. there's a life to this product. >> there's an inplied did youribility to the code but doesn't stay what it is. we often approve materials and the code says when we approve alternative methods of materials, there's eight specific lets which include safety, health, fire assistiveness, security, durability is one of those things. when someone says i'm going to use this product and i think it's equivalent to what the code requires one of the questions is how durable will it be and that raises the question what is the durability that you would normally get out of a product that is approved by the code. as we move towards these

so-called performance design standards where they say i'm going to perform like the code even though it's not a product that meets the code, we're more and more asking the question, what if the regular code expect for all these things, fire resistance, durability, sanitation, so on. durability is one of the big questions that we have not yet really wrestled with sufficiently. so if you were to say we're meeting the code, i would say what does the code require for durability. >> in terms of safety, why is glass in high rise buildings not laminated? >> sometimes it is. it is seldom, but the issue that we were just talking about could be -- is true for laminated insulated glass, or tempered insulated glass. it's the insulation that goes bad, not the glass. >> but we were talking about

skylights, skylights were tempered, we had a problem with chardz coming down. >> and to answer the question, yes, laminated glass is very often used for glass. and we do use quite a bit of laminated glass. it's ordinary, laminated is two pieces of window glass together, with a pbb in between. ordinarily it's 030 or to meet safety requirements and they put a little bug on the corner that says what requirements that meets. >> if you use a piece of safety glazing it is required by the code to have the little stamp that's permanently etched into the glass or attached somehow. so that you can see what the safety glazing requirements are being met. >> sometimes, though -- sometimes, if for example you have a french door, and you've

got 18 lights that are about 10 by 12s, you may, sometimes, talk the inspector into say, hey, i don't want to see american tempering, tempering, tempering, as an advertisement on each of these stupid little panes. this is silly. suppose i give you certification that i bought all of these at a tempering or laminating factory, and i put one at the bottom of the panel. sometimes, you can talk your way into that. >> and in fact there's a strange exception in the code that says you only have to list those in a french door with many lights for the bottom pieces are lower than 18 inches off the floor and for the top pieces that are more than -- and anybody remember what the details are? i think it's 40 inches. so the middle ones, where you're not at arm level pushing through or kicking, don't actually have to meet the same standards. >> but they have to meet the same standards of safety, but

maybe not the same standards of -- >> labeling. >> -- labeling. and so sometimes it comes down to just common sense, but other times, you know, sometimes you have to just follow the letter of the law. >> common sense in the building code. okay. laminated glass -- >> so laminated glass is actually a fairly strong material. you know, again, if you hit it in the center, it is. it's a little weaker on the edges because what happens is it can kind of chip, and sometimes it will run, or whatever. so the edges -- because essentially you're talking about two pieces of eight inch glass. the edges are a little bit fragile. but, you know, that's what happens. essentially, you've got point of impact there, but it all stays

together. and so in a quake or whatever, in an accident, auto glass, we used a lot of that in the auto industry, a lot of lamination. so this is what works pretty well for that. plastic, you know, plastic is easy. we're doing more complicated plastic, but great material, except scratches, it does all sorts of things, and it burns. not the perfect product. another instance that we're talking about, that is what do we do with mirrors. mirrors are essentially quarter inch glass, with a silver backing. and so the -- how do you protect those. these can't be tempered. they can't -- technically they can be but when you temper something, it puts a slight wiggle in it so then that mirror

becomes a funhouse mirror. not good for retail, particularly. what we do, and this is required for sliding wardrobe doors, where it's a door, and it's moving, is to put the safety backing on the back of it. so the mirror will break, but it will stay together by virtue of this category two. it's got like fiberglass mesh going through the back of it. it's still a mirror. sometimes we use this around bathtubs, so in case you get up, and... so it will break. but it's still holding together. >> is there another insulated glass that's available, besides doing that layer with the fog, that will -- you know, that will break? >> no. the glass is all fine.

and there are different kinds of things you can put in. you know, you can put in a argo, some of them -- you can put in kind of like a vacuum. there's lots of things that -- and they have come up with better kinds of sealants. now frankly it's a better product than was made years ago. so it does hold up better. but it's sometimes like a double beautled seal or a silicone then a beautle and there's a des cant which resists moisture in that little tin frame around it. they're doing everything they can to keep this thing together. the problem primarily is if the bottom -- if that seal -- if the bottom part of the glass, if your weep holes get gummed up and the glass finds itself sitting in water, not draining quite right, water and that sealant is dynamite so that

makes it fail sooner. so the first thing you want to do is go home tonight and clean out your weep holes and make sure that everything is draining through your windows. but it's only going to last at this point, technology-wise until they come up with a better product and better sealants. 25 years is a wonderful thing for laminated glass. >> in the building department i see people coming in and replacing windows that they have replaced already, they replace with double glaze -- well 10 years ago, 15 years ago, and the seals have improved. but i see many people replacing them again and we will see them being replaced again if they can last another 20, 25 years. whereas the windows in my house might be a hundred years old but they're not double glazing. i think the state is in their push to have energy efficiency, requiring dual glazing, or other similar standards, is actually not looking at the long term

durability issues from a like cycle cost for homeownerses. so what's an alternative that meets energy standards? clearly drapes that are insulated, or some other form of shutters, where you actually are -- where you're not trying to create and maintain a permanent seal between the two levels, is a very effective way, and probably would meet the state energy requirements. nobody is pushing that. everyone is say i've got to have insulated glazing in my house and i think there are other creative ways with much better life cycle outcomes for the property owners. >> primarily design. if you have essentially like an awning or something that's going over the window on say a certain exposure, the use of a tinted glass would also reflect a certain amount of heat. >> what about e-glass? >> low e? >> uh-huh. >> low e glass has like a film on one side that makes it

particularly effective in insulated glass. but it can't, at this point, be used by itself because that e-film washes off. another product that we did is -- these were stainless steel grids that came down, motorized grids that were fascinating. and they also were of course protection for the house. you couldn't break through the stainless steel grids. but it was essentially a screen that came down over the exterior. >> there is a wonderful example of that in san francisco. when you go to the area where the new giants ballpark is, the old san francisco fire department pump station, which is at the corner of second and townsend streets, which is now converted to the fire department headquarters. they used to have gigantic steam

pumps and pumped it into the high water pressure system, which is all over the city, the big hydrants with the colored tops. now they have small diesel pumps so the rest of the building is used for the headquarters. if you look at that building you will see, above the windows, are large metal cases that hold rolldown shutters, that were intended so that they could separate the building from another 1906-style configuration, and continue to pump water out of the bay to this separate water system for -- so that they can -- and it was put in place after the '06 earthquake, when of course all of the water supplies failed in the city for fire protection. it's a great building. >> next question i have is if you can describe what's the difference between glass and glazing? >> glass is the noun, glazing is the verb and a glazer is the person that puts in the glass who glazes the glass.

so glass is just the term for any one of these products, are glass. glazing is the process of putting in that glass, and you would put it in sometimes what people would call a glaze or putty. that's -- and -- the a archaic name of the man that puts it in is glazer. >> is there a way to create a more effective glass without the air-space issue? >> what happens is that air-space in between does not transmit heat because the two -- the inside and outside pieces of glass are not touching. >> the lamination is actually an insulation? >> it's not. if you put a piece of plastic in between those two pieces of

glass, essentially the heat goes right on through and so does the cold. >> and so does noise by the way. >> i'm talking more about having a thermal break like some window companies have a thermal break in their system so there's outside and inside aluminum. >> the thermal break is plastic that they use in those windows but it doesn't give you the same performance that an air gap do does. and talking about acoustics, it's very -- one of the great misconceptions is that insulated glass, with that air space, gives you acoustical protection, when in fact it does not. it's not what you use for an acoustical problem. what you need -- i mean what's giving you some protection there is the fact that you've got two layers of glass. but the sound beneficiary -- beh pieces of parallel, the sound goes right on through.

what you need is a piece of laminated glass -- your best insulating for sound is a piece of laminated on both sides, and an air space, or just a really thick piece of laminated, using different thicknesses of glass so they vibrate at different levels. we use a lot of material where we have quarter inch on the outside, and 060 interlayer, and a piece of 3/8 on the inside, they're vibrating at different levels and the insulating is turning them down and that really cuts down sound. san francisco has become far more noisy and we do a lot of acoustical installations. the fact is the thicker this glass gets, the more it insulates against sound. so it's just you keep throwing money at it, and the sound goes down. the problem is that, you know,

your walls may not be as -- you don't want to have the glass be more advanced than your walls, or the fact that you've got an open window, you know -- you have to seal off anyplace that air is going to infiltrate. >> the building code changed in 1974 to require sound transmission assemblies be placed between units, apartments, his in new buildings, or condos, and to reduce outside noise inside residential units at the end of 1974. and it's not just the window assembly, but it's the whole building facade assembly that has to be put together in a way. and it further says, in the building code, in these requirements, that you have to be able to properly ventilate your residential unit with the windows closed. you can't be requiring to meet the residential ventilation requirements by opening your window because then obviously you're not meeting sound transmission requirements.

so charles assaulter, you work with charlie, an old friend of ours that i went to high school with. >> really. >> really, in high school. he does a lot of this in the city and he's come and given us one of these brown bag lunches with acoustical separation and talked about just what he's saying, using different thicknesses of material. the assembly has to go beyond the glazing, it has to be the building wall assembly that reduces outside noise. >> tempered glass is designed to take impact. that would have broken the window glass or the plate. i'm trying really hard. this doesn't want to break. let's give it a real... you know, so it's a good product. it's interesting. this center is the strongest

part. the weakest part is at the edg edges. it takes quite a bit of impact, as you see. but -- in a quake, when they say don't leave the building, you know, there's a reason. you're probably better staying inside, under a desk or whatever else, because it's probably not going to be the glass that falls down but the cornice, some of the ornamental brickwork. who knows. we're likely to get hit by a power line. >> stay in the building. >> stay in the building, get under your desk. keep a bottle of scotch there for -- at all times. i certainly do. >> [laughter.] >> any other thoughts or questions? >> so any final questions? >> can you -- having a foil in between? >> with a foil? between? >> yeah.

when you have two glass plates, you put the foil in between so it wouldn't fall down. >> yes, you're right. so a lot of times, we do tempered glass on both sides, and plastic lamination, or whatever, in between. actually, what we prefer to do is -- i put heat strengthened glass, which we haven't really talked about, and tempered on the other side. heat strengthened glass is glass that is kind of tempered. you know, it's tempered, but not fully tempered. it's got kind of a half measure. stronger than eneeled glass and will take more impact. but where we saw the big piece of glass broken into shards the heat strengthened glass will break into shards maybe this size. the tempered glass, as you see, broke into teeny pieces.

so if both sides were tempered and it broke, you know, this whole thing would peel -- you know, would fall over, you know, with this plastic in between, if it didn't have the century guard that -- the new depont stuff which is going to keep it rigid. but if we used heat strengthened on one side and tempered on the other, the two will still remain rigid. >> i want to thank you all for coming. i want to thank ken paige for this extremely exciting and illuminating adventure today in glazing. and invite you all to come next month when we talk about how to plan a home remodel, and thank you all very much. >> thank you for coming. >> [applause.] -

>> san francisco is known worldwide for its atmospheric waterfront where spectacular views are by piers and sight and sounds are xhanl changing

we come to the here for exercise relax ball games entertainment, recreation market, exhilaration a wide variety of contributions easily enjoyed look up the bay the waterfront is boosting for activities boosting over 25 visitors every year the port of san francisco manages 7 may have million dollars of waterfront from hyde street and fisherman's wharf to the cargo terminals and name shoreline the architecture like pier 70 and the ferry building is here for the embarcadero and a

national treasure the port also supports 10 different maritime industries alongside with the recreational attractions making san francisco one of the most viable working waterfronts in the world but did you think that our waterfront faces serious challenges if earthquake to damage the seawall and the embarcadero roadway rising seawalls will cause flooding at high tides and major repairs to a safe many of the piers the port is at a critically turnl point time to plan for the future of san francisco's waterfront this year the port is updating it's marts plan the plan working

group to invite a wide variety of poichdz from the city and bayview and other advisory teams to share their expertise if intense and maritime operations the waterfront land use plan has guided the use and development of the lanes for the last 20 years major physical changes take place along the waterfront and now is the time to update the waterfront plan to continue improvements that will keep our waterfront vibrate, public and resilient the biggest challenges facing the waterfront are out the site an aging seawall along the embarcadero roadway and seawalls that will rise by 21 hundred to provide and productivity of tides seawall is built over weak soils and mud the next earthquake will

cause it to settle several feet without the urgent repairs that will damage the promenade and other things we've been fortunate over the last hundred years less than one foot of seawall over the next hundred years scientists say we'll have 6 feet of seawall rise imagine the pier 30/32 will be floated, the embarcadero will be flooded our transportation system is fog to be heavy impacts unfortunately, the port didn't have the financial resources to repair all the deteriorating piers let alone the adaptations for sea level rise. >> it is clear that the port can't pay for the seawall reinforcement or deal with the sea level rise on its own needs

to raise money to take care of the properties at take care of the maintenance on the properties no way absent anti funding the issues of sea level rise or the schematic conditions of seawall can be development. >> as studies talk about the seawall challenges the working group is look at the issues please come share our ideas about recreation, pier activities, shoreline habitat, historic preservation and transportation issues and viral protection. >> we know this planning process will not have one question and one answer we need the diversity of the opinions how people feel about san francisco waterfront and want to hear all the opinions. >> the challenges call for big decisions now is the time to explore now and creative ideas to protect and preserve san

francisco waterfront. >> now is the time to get involved to help to shape the future of our waterfront. >> we need the debate please come forward and engage in the process. >> this is your waterfront and this is your opportunity to get involved be part of solution help san francisco create the waterfront we want for the future. >> this is really to dream big and i think about what our waterfront looked like for all san franciscans today and generations to come. >> get involved with the planning process that will set the fraction for what is coming at the port. >> find for in upgrading dates on the ports website.

>> (ship blowing horn in distances) >> i have 2 job titles. i'm manager of the tour program as well as i am the historyian of city hall. this building is multifaceted to say the very least it's a municipal building that operates the city and county of san francisco. this building was a dream that became a reality of a man by the name of james junior elected mayor of san francisco in 1912.

he didn't have a city hall because it was destroyed in the earth wake of 1906. construction began in april of 1913. in december 1915, the building was complete. it opened it's doors in january 1916. >> it's a wonderful experience to come to a building built like this. the building is built as a palace. not for a king or queen. it's built for all people. this building is beautiful art. those are architecture at the time when city hall was built, san francisco had an enormous french population. therefore building a palace in

the art tradition is not unusual. >> jimmie was an incredible individual he knew that san francisco had to regain it's place in the world. he decided to have the tallest dome built in the united states. it's now stands 307 feet 6 inches from the ground 40 feet taller than the united states capital. >> you could spend days going around the building and finding something new. the embellishment, the carvings, it represents commerce, navigation, all of the things that san francisco is famous for. >> the wood you see in the

board of supervisor's chambers is oak and all hand carved on site. interesting thing about the oak is there isn't anymore in the entire world. the floors in china was cleard and never replanted. if you look up at the seceiling you would believe that's hand kof carved out of wood and it is a cast plaster sealing and the only spanish design in an arts building. there are no records about how many people worked on this building. the workman who worked on this building did not all speak the same language.

and what happened was the person working next to the other person respected a skill a skill that was so wonderful that we have this masterpiece to show the world toda

sfgovtv.org. >> neighborhoods and san francisco as exists and fascist as the people that i think inhabitable habit them the bay area continues to change for the better as new start up businesses with local restaurants and nonprofit as the collaborative spaces the community appeal is growing too.

>> what anchors me to the community i serve is a terminal connection this is the main artery of the southeast neighborhood that goes around visitacion valley and straight down past the ball park and into the south of market this corridor the hub of all activity happening in san francisco. >> i'm barbara garcia of the wines in the bayview before opening the speculation we were part of bayview and doing the opera house every thursday i met local people putting their wares out into the community barbara is an work of a symbol how the neighborhood it changing in a a positive way literally

homemade wine that is sold in the community and organized businesses both old and new businesses coming together to revitalizes this is a yoga studio i actually think be able a part of community going on in the bayview i wanted to have a business on third street and to be actually doing that with the support of community. >> how everybody reasons together to move each other forward a wonderful run for everybody out here. >> they're hiring locally and selling locally. >> it feels like a community effort. >> i was i think the weather is beautiful that is what we can capture the real vibe of san

francisco i love it i can go ongoing and on and on about the life in the >> well, everyone well i present to you the mayor the city and county of san francisco mr. edwin m lee. >> (clapping.) >> thank you theo well, everyone well people's palace our city hall kids how you doing junior 49ers in the house. >> (clapping.) >> well, i'm really glad you're here i know when young people are here they don't want

to hear speech we will have action even though findings i pen thank you to the supervisor president breed who is working closely with me on this legislation along with board member supervisor peskin green from district 3 and ahsha safai district 11 thank you and supervisor cowen malia cohen is on her way and will be here in a minute and, of course, i need do board of supervisors i'm signing legislation that's what they had had good we do better when we work together with sheryl and others you allow us to a or as a city to work together with the most important people are the residents of potrero and sunnydale thank you for being here. >> (clapping.) >> i get to say that you know

as a someone who started out in public housing this is personal to me that i pay attention to those that are living in housing to not allow you to fear in you're living live in fear and isolation we had many, many discussions at city hall about how to do better and do justice by our low income residents and in communities that often have been labeled as solicited and not paid attention to we're changing that we've been changing it for quite sometime particularly with our board of supervisors and particularly with supervisor president london breed and also with malia cohen that they work soibdz along with the philanthropic community that is part of our hope sf our justice community i know with that allen and you juvenile

justice and rec and park and see the chief of police william scott our subject hyde are their working together increase in large umbrella called hope sf hope sf yes. >> (clapping.) >> that's exactly what it is kids. >> everybody say hope sf that's a word we truly believe in this people don't center hope all they've got is misery we have put that hope in that term hope sf with the collaborative partners those that are in the funding streams working in banks and working in the private sector of housing like rick rich and mercy housing those are the organizations we help with the positive and the annexation and

sunnydale in order to rehabilitate every units of housing in that neighborhood in our neighborhoods why are we are doing this one is because everyone who lives in san francisco should be san franciscans they should never be referred to as residents of public housing everyone is a san francisco resident and when we're here in san francisco with our equity calls and calls that people be treated equally good housing this should be at basis that's why working with the housing authority with hud making sure that we're changing the entire way we manage those projects those developments the housing that you live in i got to a point i got tieftd excited people weren't talking about broken glass and water system didn't work but how many bedrooms will i live in how many

kids are we're going to have open space so for our kids and the playgrounds we want it is a new conversation with you talking about the housing needs of all our residents so i'm very proud of all the residents that are coming together with the collaborative partners as part of hope sf the entire board of supervisors thank you for preserving in everything you're doing those dreams were thought of maybe over 10 or 15 years ago people stuck by the dream so those kids what have hope amount how many of you what a brand new bedroom yeah. yeah all the trophies you'll be winning yeah, you need more room (laughter) so as i promised let's look at the action and morgan hill to the building of this housing you have a place to called home

forever this is san francisco we do what is right but all the residents with that, supervisor president breed. >> thank you. >> (clapping.) >> thank you, thank you everybody well, i'm really excited to be here today some of you know i grew up in plaza east how many know where plaza east and obamacare i grew up no obamacare over 20 years born and raised on eddy and laguna through difficult times through the drama the violation the hope less in this and despair why didn't my communities have battery playground and why are we left out in the water of our city with everything that's why i ran to the board of supervisors because i wanted to see a difference when i became a

member of the board i made it clear to the mayor and my colleagues what were my 34 top priorities mr. mayor. >> housing housing and more housing. >> (laughter) pursue exactly but more importantly rehabilitation the conditions that existed in plaza east when i grew up there no showers and busted pipes had to use other people's bathrooms on a regular basis and laundromat was always messed up why, why in a waeshth i didn't city would we allow to continue to happen that's why this historic day this historic position we're able to pass with any colleagues here with supervisor cohen leading that effort and supervisor peskin and supervisor safai on board that legislation is going to make a better community it is going to change lives i'm excited about

the future of san francisco because we are finally doing with we should have done even i was growing up pay attention to what was going on in the community and make sure that everyone can will in the city with dignity thank you for being here i'm excited and let's goat hope on the map for ever san franciscan. >> (clapping.) >> and now the supervisor the district 10 supervisor cohen. >> thank you. >> (clapping.) >> thank you good afternoon, everyone how are you this is an exciting time you guys need to lien up you have no idea how long it took maybe some of us know resident 10 like, yeah that is incredible this is like changing exactly why i feel i was put in elected office to

serve this is an incredible journey i've been the the board seven years thank you, mayor ed lee he's been here and talking the talk and congressional legislation and leader pelosi getting the federal dollars to reach on the shore that's how we get hunters point and the olsen in the dream team olsen lee. >> (clapping.) >> barbara smith. >> (clapping.) >> barbara smith >> (clapping.) >> i want to recognize theo miller an incredible champion theo has been the inside guy that has been silently pushing the mayor and we have a host of the community nonprofit organizations our partners i want to recognize mercy bridge helping us to troofrm all of

this. >> (clapping.) >> thank you very much and to the housing authority commissioners grateful for your time and commitment when times were tough and more importantly recognition the residents that have been living in public housing for generations that have's endured the roaches and rats and now this is our gift to i got that drama a trip to department of housing and urban development executive said people have suffered through the rats and roaches and today is about standing at all and strong. >> (clapping.) >> so it feels good to stand up here we have the junior 49ers thank you and a ton of residents leaders i'm looking at to see the jackson family is here thank you, larry everyone at forefront prior to my election on the

board of supervisors now there is one woman that has been leading the charge keeping everyone honest from the beginning of time and this is mother ruth jackson i don't see her where is she, she will be speaking the next voice this is an incredible fearless leader feeds the homeless and takes care of the cited, bringing pride into the southeast neighborhood raising a family and raising grandkids this is a small business owner a model san franciscan right here please help me welcome mother jackson. >> (clapping.) >> i would like to thank everyone for coming today and my name is ruth jackson i've lived in the visitacion valley sunnydale for over 50 years

i ran a family daycare over thirty, i've had generations and generations of children and i want you to know i love my neighborhood >> (clapping.) >> i've had people - that called me at night and say ms. jackson my waters is a gray coming out of the pipes i would get on the phone and call someone i want you know to we've been fighting and struggling with that a long time and i don't add too much long but we're happy today and we want to thank the mayor and throwing and all the people that have worked hard who have serviced our community and this way we give our

families and children hope because we're there is no hope there is no light. >> and most of our young people in our area they don't feel they will live to get through high school so today, this gives us hope we want everybody just like you are today, we want to join hands and make sure this works. >> for all our families in our neighborhoods because i'm going to be around to see it (laughter). >> (clapping.) >> thank you thank you. >> thank you, ms. jackson now we'll get to action mr. mayor. >> there is pizza in room 201 let the children and elderly eat

first thank you. >> all right. >> oh, very good, yes everyone the beginning the black history month you invaded it invaded it, huh? >> (clapping.) >> let's start building everyone. >> all right. >> all right. >> thank you

>> we are approving as many parks as we can, you have a value garden and not too many can claim that and you have an historic building that has been redone in a beautiful fashion and you have that beautiful outdoor ping-pong table and you have got the art commission involved and if you look at them, and we can particularly the gate as you came in, and that is extraordinary. and so these tiles, i am going to recommend that every park come and look at this park, because i think that the way that you have acknowledged donor iss really first class. >> it is nice to come and play and we have been driving by for

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>> good evening i'm going to go ahead and start this meeting welcome to what's today's date tuesday, february 7, 2017, my name is bryant tan the the president a few headaches before we start the meeting please turn off your cell phones or put them on silent and secondly, if you're a member of the public that wants to speak on an item please fill out a speaker request form there are a couple of sheets if not you're welcome to come up to microphone and thank you to sfgovtv for presenting this meeting to the publicry