>> good afternoon the meeting will come to order welcome to the wednesday, february 22, 2017, of the rules committee i'm supervisor safai chair of the committee to my right is vice chair supervisor fewer and to my right is rules committee member supervisor yee and he's on his way our collective a derrick evans and thank you jesse larson and mark for staffing this meeting mr. clerk, any announcements? >> eating and drinking is not

permitted in the gallery my documents should be submitted to the clerk items will be on the board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> thank you mr. clerk please call the first item number one a hearing to consider pointing out the members we're in resident of the poll from the clerk of the board which supervisor fewer expressed interest all other supervisors declined the 143 corbett avenue to be appointed. >> thank you, madam clerk supervisor fewer would you like to say a few words or straight to public comment. >> straight to public comment. >> okay. i guess mr. clerk can i make a motion to recuse supervisor fewer without a second. >> yes. a few public comments first and then.

>> okay. thank you. >> let's hear from public comment any public comment on this item? members of the public have two minutes state our first and last name speak directly into the microphone leave a copy for the official file we we call public comment file to the left and call you in order. >> seeing no members of the public who wish to testify on this item we'll go straight to making a motion to recuse supervisor fewer. >> question. mr. chair we're waiting for supervisor yee and we'll losses quorum. >> that's why i was asking we'll hold off and- can we skip that item and go to item number two supervisor fewer. >> mr. clerk we'll return to

item number one when supervisor yee is back. >> item number 2 a motion approving or rejecting ben bleiman to the entertainment commission july 21st, 2018. >> thank you, mr. speaker, colleagues, we have the mayor's appointment on the entertainment commission welcomeblast ben bleiman did i say that right. >> would you, please address the committee and speak on your qualifications and i thank you for the opportunity to come before the committee for entertainment commission commissioner, i feel like my experience as a business owner in san francisco and my advocacy on behalf of the night life in san francisco for the last 5 or 6 years gives me the ideal qualification agency a business owner i have owned 8 and 10 bars and restaurant in san francisco

and a busy events company that puts on full-scale prouksz with musical events through the experience i have developed intimate knowledge with working with the neighbors and the local community to make sure our night life business is done responsibly and successfully if i had to boil down my philosophical on san francisco night life i would put it i stand for responsible educational and affordable night life for residents of san francisco and visitors that means didn't mean that every night life establishment is correct for every single neighborhood whether it is a jazz club in the avenues or

something a thumping night life in the south of market each area has its own flavor and needs to be take into account when making decisions around that. >> as on my advocacy side i've been the chairman of the called culture association that is the main trade organization that represents bars and restaurant and music festivals and music venues through the experience i've worked with supervisors across the aisle whether on the left to pass meaningful legislation in san francisco and some of my main favorite scott wiener's school board members have been i spearheaded a petition to support sxooepdz petition that gardened 4 hundred signatures and used as a main

piece in her argument for passing that legislation and i also structural in helping to write and navigate the passage of 10 b a complicated subject that had kind of tortured the night life advocates for decades we were able to pass a meaningful reform are that working with supervisor campos and supervisor farrell together as well as the poa and the police chief so all the experiences i've had taught me how to advocate for responsible needle in the haystack in san francisco and my experience as a business owner to successfully operate night life establishments in san francisco. >> again, thank you ben bleiman colleagues any questions for ben bleiman. >> supervisor fewer. >> no questions.

>> okay seeing none, i will ask a question i know you talked about supervisor president london breed's legislation how has that impacted our industry sew it's the first of its kind in the world a landmark not as a city but the world nightclubs and music venues have been in areas of low population density that's why they were there not to bother the neighbors, etc. with the hemorrhaging in san francisco and the boom even if residents move on all of a sudden and saw the areas with major areas of development the issue at hand people will tour a condo next to an existing club and turned off on wednesday afternoon they buy the million dollars plus condo

and on they're first night they hear the music coming from next door business as usual inform a night life waiting to get in, etc. and having serious issues this legislation protected not an incredible amount but major venues in san francisco to protect them from developers moving in and not informing the residents moving of the facility issues with the night life nearby and so how it did that it required the developers to inform residents ahead of time in writing of the appearance of a night life establishment and that went a huge way towards allowing the two important things residents and night life to co-exist peacefully it is hard to understate figuratively

and actually gray. >> i have one more question he know a lot of the work on the entertainment commission is about preserving existing night life and preserving venues but if you can speak a little bit about our thoughts about potentially expanding into areas of the city that modesty not have that economic make up that. >> it is important night life in san francisco is more expensive to do business and anymore expensive for the customers on the customers does the one way we can help to mitigate that and the effect of rising expense of doing business filet mignon is a thing for the wealthy and not for everyone else that he can't afford a drink or ticket price, etc. this is to expand night time and not

necessarily allow clubs but extend night life offering to neighborhoods that don't have them like the live music permit for jazz or bluegrass or other offering not to crazy but the diversification is the amount of initially there will be affordable options it is a main point by will hope to stress as a commissioner. >> as a part of light city representing a part of the city that is definitely underserved by night life and opportunities of such that is something that is important to me as a supervisor and member of the committee thank you for take into consideration colleagues any more questions and supervisor yee. >> let me follow-up supervisor safais question

so in reverse i guess whether this is new developed built in traditionally not night life areas you know their complaining when the night life was there already i guess wasn't i'll concerned about it from you're thinking this you should expand into the other areas or people at home want a home that is quiet and the not put night life there. >> yeah. >> and the people that run operate those things can't say well, what are they complaining about. >> there are two points night life a huge category and to me it means you know quiet jazz or

acoustical music up to the premier nightclubs in the city i don't think that nightclubs should be in every neighborhood and not right for every street and community; right? it has to be done carefully and the other thing there's a fundamental difference between a place it existed peacefully and operated responsibly for years or decades and a new place that is moving on where people are already living peacefully this is a transmission between the two things and you need to take a case by case and from the local community for example, in supervisor district 11 will embrace new opportunity not looking at for new night life activities we that need to work with those communities.

>> thank you. >> any other questions oh, supervisor fewer. >> thank you. i have one question what are your thoughts on the entertainment business. >> did you say rationale racially. >> this is bigger than the entertainment commission but i think that prioritizing diverse racially and socioeconomic and, etc. is key and really helping smaller maybe groups that don't have access to incredible amounts of wealth as others do to navigate and on the night life places and working with each neighborhood specifically and if we're in one neighborhood in chinatown they'll want a totally different offering of

night life for the residents in chinatown than soma or north beach, etc. so i think that is treeing to support each community to bring more night life to as they see fit to they're residents. >> i notice that actually, the businesses that are own are all businesses that actually have a liquor license; is that correct? >> yes. >> and you serve ages over 21. >> they have the licenses that means technologically we can lie people under 21 in they're not allowed to drink alcohol for the record but traditionally we'll let them in on off nights and off times but put a door person on to card everyone at a certain time when it gets busy. >> how long have you owned the

entertainment center. >> my first bar was in 2008, in september we owned he 10 and bought and sold a few we're down to 5 in san francisco. >> okay. i see concentrating in the mission. >> we specialize in neighborhoods bars and taverns and restaurants we try to serve the immediate community not our some kind of a designation people travel so we've been kind of opportunistic we owned places in union street and divisadero and policies and russian hill in the mission. >> okay. thank you. >> colleagues any other questions for him seeing none, any members of the public wants to testify on this

item seeing oh, state your name. >> my name is audrey joseph i'm the retiring commissioner for for the seat ben bleiman is going for and i was the last remaining founding commissioners of the san francisco entertainment commission and to me the person that replaces me has to have two distinct qualifications one in operations and procedures where you really know how a business should operate and operating safely and is anly and to know sound sound is a huge issue at the entertainment commission to know sound not that you can't do it but offer some restrictions that will help you have sound and yet not possibly disturb the neighbors like what you do with our base or high-end

in my research the ben bleiman his knowledge is knows how to handle staff and customers and keep the venues clean and up to code and a unique knowledge of sound those are important for me the other thing that is important is advocacy so advocacy for the industry as an industry rep that is your job and the entertainment commission is a 7 member body is includes neighborhood representatives public health urban planning the police and the industry and so it is important that he be able to advocate so for the industry he is the chairman of cpmc and industry organization and the founding mechanic of the bar alliance i think that he will be a great advocate for his

industry thank you very much. >> thank you so much any public comment on this item? would like to comment seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues any additional comments or questions seeing none, i need to make a motion and an amendment since no other seeing no other names on the roster, amend this on lines 8 and 9 to qualify that appointments was received by the clerk and lines 3 and 14 we approved the mayors appointment of ben bleiman to the entertainment commission and further recommend if possible we i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> chair i would hike to log my vote no recommendation. >> wale call roll call vote to send this item forward as amended

supervisor fewer no recommendation. >> no supervisor yee no recommendation okay seeing and - i'm sorry mr. chair on the motion to send this forward without recommendations or clarification with a positive recommendation. >> excuse me - >> the initial motion to i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> we're going to call roll so i guess that will be no. >> okay supervisor fewer and supervisor yee have responded no supervisor safai. >> yes. >> i two nos and supervisor fewer and supervisor yee in december sent to. >> colleagues, can i have a new motion. >> yes. i make a motion to i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> with no representation. >> to send without supervisor fewer

yes. >> supervisor yee i supervisor safai no we have two i's with one no supervisor safai that item passes. >> mr. clerk back to item number one please. item number one has been called mr. chair and we've taken public comment on this item okay so colleagues, can we have a motion to excuse supervisor fewer. >> i'll move that thank you so commissioner fewer your commissioner crews schmoozed *- we've closed public comment so. >> i'll make a motion to pass

with a positive recommendation to the full board. >> without objection supervisor fewer can b.a. contact in the room; is that correct. >> congratulations commissioner murphy call item 3. >> excuse me - mr. chair would you like to call items 3 to 6. >> yes. >> items 3 through 6 are motions approving or rejecting the mayors nominees for aaron hyland diane matsuda and jonathan pearlman to the historic preservation. >> thank you clockwork the mayors appointment to the mayors historic preservation commission welcome commissioners any in the room today okay. great. >> would you, please speak on your qualifications one at a

time start with aaron hyland great. >> thank you, supervisors supervisor safai and good afternoon supervisor fewer and supervisor yee i'm pleased to be here and especially honored to have the mayor's frustrate and support i'm an architect and have been in san francisco for 25 years in the castro with my partner of 17 years and spent my career making significant buildings and sites relative. the future historic places are memories their anchors to the neighborhoods and community and they frame and define our sense of place for me preservation is not about freezing plaza of time but identifying and celebrating what makes the places approximately at the same time have creative solution for change and temporary uses it is not about keeping everything but keeping

what is important my time on the hpc has been regarding we expected as an architect on the architectural review committee and representative of the hpc along with my fellow commissioners jefferson city for the waterfront plan more significantly i've enjoyed the work with the cultural hemorrhaging that commissioner mazzucco eye and i we're inspired by the policies for san francisco living history strategies for conserving culture assets and about that at the same time the san francisco legacy businesses was created in supervisor campos leadership the following november prop j passed with the establishment of historic preservation fund it is the first city in the country to

do this past year one and 59 businesses were nominated and heard by the historic preservation commission and 51 received funding we've learned a lot in the past year and look forward to improving the process and capturing those stories if in more meaningful way i can continue with the other accomplishments and things we've undertaken you but want to respect our time i look forward to continuing this journey and honored to serve i thank you, again. and hope to have your support on this i'm available to answer any questions >> colleagues any questions for aaron hyland. >> seeing none, if we can call up the jonathan pearlman. >> good afternoon, supervisors. >> thank you for your

consideration you're consideration of my remeantime to the historic preservation commission it is shocking that 4 years have passed i stood in front of the rules committee i know that a few years ago there was some in the preservation community was weary about my becoming a member i hope i've demonstrating my unwavering commitment preservation is not a sign what to keep and let go of is a tricky dance and with the change the social pressures and the sheer volume of buildings that disascertainment is important my participation as a member of the historic preservation commission in the ongoing discussions has been regarding i believe my small contribution is valuable in preserving san francisco we know of history is only revealed by the those who create it but

participate to see how in to we don't rely on the buildings to define the history but supergreen in between the stories to preserve a memory as a grounding for to prepare all of us for the future i come from a building background i'm an architect and a historian i was trained on buildings who was the architect and what is the style and place of history but obviously there is so much more to the history why was that building built did it represent a culture or a backdrop all of the attributes are up for consideration as our work perhaps the most important participation has been hearing the personal and inanimate stories and the preservation business owners and patrons come to the hpc to tell their stories

are how or what we do or the place they shop and eat their families and community many of the stories have brought me to tears about the expires and american dreamers that shape san francisco our great buildings with the concrete i am of our city those people and their businesses are fabric of the city on the building side i think my most important contribution is as mechanic of architectural review committee along with aaron hyland designing the buildings to fit with the urban fabric in this date process with the potholes addressed as opposed to to a doctor or last year we're remind of the planners and appreciate by bringing the projects at an early stage of design we can

offer advise on ways that a new building what better we've into the pattern, of course, the city didn't stand still having a group like the arc and that's critical to shaping the future of our city in my professional life i'm proud of having completed the renovation of the bank over on market and jones street and having the honor to be a she said of that process currently i'm in - i'm working on the alexander theatre to bring that back to a 14 or 15 quiet time the theatre building will be turning pools and classes and evening community event that will preserve the exterior of

the building as well as the interior having begun in 2004 for the evaluations with the residential building in the back on 18th street avenue currently under construction i'm hoping to see this completion sometime in my lifetime one last thing i'll mention the comradery i feel with my commissioners and the planning preservation staff there's been a gray sense of respect for each other's point of view and a commitment of all of us to do the right thing to get the whole of the city turning i hope to continue to be part of the tour as a member of the historic preservation commission thank you for your time and consideration. >> thank you colleagues any questions. >> supervisor yee. >> well, maybe is there someone from the

commission staff? no? can you answer this question i'll ask - in regards to the meetings for the last year have you made most of them >> my record i think in 4 years i think i've missed two two or 3 at the most but get to every meeting. >> and jonathan pearlman oh, aaron hyland can you come up and answer that question and the next few speakers the same questions. >> aaron hyland i think i may have missed two or three meeting. >> any other questions for jonathan pearlman thank you for coming back and any other questions seeing none, we can

have ellen johnck. >> thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is ellen johnck a 50-year resident of san francisco i've been honored to sit in the preservation position professional position for the last 4 years it's been a rewarding and transitionally stimulating position to be in my credentials for this position are you. a registered professional archeologist and rp a though i have a business license in san francisco and consulting practice and my business name is ellen johnck comma rp a a registered archeologist a registry where

the qualifications are you must be authorized by the secretary of interior to practice archaeology and be responsible for reviewing changes to the historical buildings and landscape a host of components in our world and in our society and so my consulting practice expanded beyond myville practice to include archaeology that includes being hired by folks that are in the business of either altering buildings or improving buildings or culture landscape i'm involved in documenting the sites around the community and up and down the

line and with our heritage and tribal cultural laws that involves a lot of responsibility for compliance with the california california environmental quality act and several other laws an commissioner moore a university of california, san francisco and teach a course on landscape that's my speciality the business of being a commissioner is not just a guardian of heritage in san francisco recognizing that change has to happen but change is going to happen make sure that our heritage and history is carried forward with integrity with the chances we make as i say to conclude i welcome our support and being

reappointed to the historic

preservation commission i grew up in the outer richmond and educated from lafayette to presidio to george washington high school and i have a law degree but in intensive status and my credentials for the preservation started when i was working for the state of california and ran a grant program to ask the california community to create programs to

equate people about the japanese-american experience before and during world war ii i was appointed to be the chief executive officer for the california culture and historical endowment we promoted and recognized underrepresented and unrecognized communities i feel after that i missed san francisco so that i came back 8 years ago and worked for a small nonprofit organization to help foster youth current you foster youth and homeless youth and at the same time was appointed to the city and county hpc my involvement

with is i have primarily been in japantown living there foreclose to 20 years pretty involved in activities that exist there but feel my work on the historic preservation commission has been with the culture heritage where commissioner honda and we're proud to be vocal supporters of program we hope to continue to

promote over the last this -

i've been on the commission for two terms i think i missed one to two meetings per year and last year, i did miss two meetings in november because i went on a pilgrim. >> colleagues any questions for diane matsuda. >> we'll move to see if my public comment that wants to comment on any of the items please line up to the left. >> good afternoon ray hart for san francisco open government. i reviewed all the posted on the board of supervisors websites relating potential appointees i also did further research to look at the credentials and find them to be well qualified to serve on the historic preservation commission it is one in my opinion of the most important commissioners concussions 2 to 3 the city short avenue tragic incident library the 1906 san francisco earthquake he history didn't disappear at one scope in - in my 19 years watched the cities er varies neighborhood go into things not recognition i live in hawaii for 25 years before coming here and watched the island of hawaii change that when people ask me when you go to hawaii i tell them don't go do away hocking huh-uh if you want to see that i suggest you go to the big island got an idea of hawaii it beyond to its territorial status and back in history so guarding the neighborhoods of insuring that changes that are

made are done with a dictatecy

that allows buildings and institutions that have been pilars of the society can remain intact is an important and

critical job i believe all the candidates make that effort. >> okay. next person. >> good afternoon, commissioners we're the city's leading advocacy and education - as have an articulate and thoughtful group of commissioners seeking reand in expertise on the commission i've witnessed over several years that is apparent and their level of engagement and thoughtfulness in deliberations in the leadership and support san francisco is leading the nation in developing new policies to recognize and support the city leasing e legacy businesses and currently significant resources on behalf of the heritage i'm happy to support each of higher appointments without reservation thank you. >> thank you. any other members of the public seeing none, public comment is closed. >> any additional comments colleagues supervisor yee. >> first of all, i want to thank all 4 candidates for replying spoken to several of them before i think they're well qualified people i want to let the public know that i asked a question about attendance as simple when i was serving on the rules committee several years or years it took awhile we realized that many people serving on commissions and . >> it is a basic question and i'll ask it is important for me to know you're going to the meetings i fully support all 4. >> thank you supervisor fewer yes, thank you chair i wanted to say that i - i met mr. pearlman but want to agree with some of the speakers said this is an important commission i feel like this commission the guardian of our city and san francisco heritage and where we go and that we don't forget i our history is here but also that institutions that house many are

institutions i was fortunate to be raised as san franciscan we'll use sort of worship in san francisco an important city not only does the california and san franciscans but to the united states and people that come here see the history we have and what a grand history we've had so thank you very much for serving on the committee and the commission i am in agreement with i building that all appointments are good appointment to the commission thank you. >> and doesn't the to the commission i'd like to echo some of the things that my colleagues have said that so many - what makes a city great is often it's architecture the value of city and how it treats the architecture in terms of the culture assets and history i

agree that is think important commission and very, very happy about your dedication all 4 of you and what you provided to san francisco so we appreciate - colleagues can you entertain a motion or make a motion. >> go ahead. >> supervisor yee. >> i approve all four candidates. >> second. >> i'd like to amend items 4 to 6 to approve the mayor's appointments to the historic preservation commission a friendly amendment to supervisor yee. >> park merced. >> seeing no objections those items are approved i make a

motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> autopsy mr. clerk next item. >> 7 to consider appointing one member to the 6 year term ending 2023 to the ethnic commissions. >> as the clerk said two applicants for the ethics commission first quentin kopp.

>> thank you, mr. chair and supervisor yee i do apply for reappointment to the ethics commission having been reappointed to this last year and taking the oath september 6th in these very chambers and other aspects of my life i suppose i should add been a san franciscan since discharged from the united states air force after the korean war i thinking about my activities as a legislature particularly relevant to the duties members

of the ethics commission and i began in 1972 as a member of the board of supervisors with a charter amendment that created for the first one a collection of interest provision in the charter of 1932 as amended. >> i was reminded by larry bush introduced the first bill to- in san francisco city elections there have been one precedent for it and in the city of san diego bill resulted agency a matter of comparison and spending in 1975

supervisorial campaigns on a citywide basis of $46,000 and one and $208,000 for mayor - throughout the state and the united states in the state senate at the suggestion and with the yes, ma'am it's of publisher of the then san francisco bay guardian bruce the california newspaper publishers association and society of journalist i introduced a large bill that had the effect of being the first

change and revision of the then brown open act that was impacted in 1953 my co-author in the assembly was the honorable joh l berkman of that bill which had opposition much opposition and was passed by both houses and then signed by governor pete willingly and introduced a bill which revised the public records act of the state of california in the government code in the state of california and that endeavor resulted in an engagement after a signature by the then governor i've devoted myself to the

suggestion which are within the responsibility of the san francisco ethics commission throughout my elected public office career as indicated i served as a trial court judge for approximately 10 years, i'm a reinstated member of the state bar of california after having been in active with 10 years as a superior court judge i have been impressed by progress of the ethics commission which was the subject in 2014 of a critical civil grand jury report i'm pleased by the fact that the backlog of unacted upon

complaints has decreased by at least 50 percent in the 5 months i have participated in meetings of the ethics commission your information there was a numerous backlog much of which was attributableal to requests of district attorney for the some respect for the zoo to suspected the investigation of complaint and those requests were honored by the prior administration of the ethics commission resulting in complaints for 3 years and two years at least 18 months old never acted upon i'm pleased that we adopted and in a meeting last month, a policy that henceforth, after 90

days of spuntd an investigation at the request of the district attorney and the da we resume our investigation and conclude action on others matter whether this is dismissal or action involving the penalties of one sort of or another i reapply or applied for reappointment not just to provide the diversity of this to the commission but because as long as i'm able and not only mentally and file number i consider it my civic responsibility and i appreciate very much the comment made last

friday by supervisor yee and the chinatown chinese new year lunch i look forward to serving a fixed term with ethics commission and colleagues we'll call up the next person and if we have questions we'll take questions after that >> hi, thank you so much for the opportunity to speak before you about my interests in strengthening and serving the people of san francisco on the ethics commission as a commissioner, i will uphold san francisco commitments with the financing system and look at each matters and without

prejudice my 20 years of experience in business in nonprofit management requires the leadership ability to hold multiple points of view at the same time i had to consider the long term and short time mrpgs with the urban intended consequences i spent 12 years as a ceo with an industrial company in southern california turning around the organization in a local market and lucrative sale to an employer i have 15 hundred customers and 13 trucks on the road and worked with aclu and the tooermz i have those challenged to get the information to emphasize and prioritize quickly i gain invaluable tools making sound decisions i was selected to partner in a groundbreaking

environmental pilot project for industry best practices i negotiated a successful sale to the air march securing they'll hire 85 percent of my clez employees they - i couldn't leave the staff without an option my financial best interest to choose the higher offer but not at the experience of my employees i choose to work with my employees and it was the right thing to do in addition i spent 15 years in nonprofit management advocating for women in a hospital and as a executive director of an i'd process through my feet i gained skills with critical issues with no obvious right answer that prepared me for the complicated

of ethics commission my passion for government and ethics reform where for i served on the directors common causes and non-partisan and grassroots organizations that were to strengthen the public participation and insure that public officials and institutions are accountable and responsible to our city any time has given me ground i know that will say invaluable on the commission i'll spend san francisco ethics laws to make sure they're effective with my years of experience in business and nonprofit organizations and environmental sustainability and policy my goal to bring an ethical approach insuring that empower democracy and social justice will continue to thrive

in the city of san francisco i've been proud to call san francisco my home for the past seven years and wanted to leave here since 7-year-old i served on boards and past president of the women businesses and also participated in leadership san francisco to conclude the future of the city depended on good people step forward to run for office our public campaign system protects our citizens and insures the opportunity i'm devote to the principles of transparency and accountability i can be impartial and fair and thorough owe thoughtful and a well educated woman have 10 years with democracy issues on the board of common cause and honored to have the opportunity to give back to the city by

present those issues as a commissioner thank you for your consideration. >> thank you coordinate can you return to the commission and when our members of the committee have questions any questions for quentin kopp. >> one quick question so how do you feel about public financing. >> how do i feel. >> what is your feel. >> i feel that public first one is adopted by any jurisdiction that is illegally building to do so as los angeles and the city of richmond and san

jose and public financing should be enforced like any other law i believe many in the rule law that surpasses any considerations as a judge i believe in the rule of law and follow the law why i agree with the law or not and i'll give you an example during the time i was in the senate the penal code provided that any theft over the amount of 200 and $50 was grand theft a felony not petty theft that is a misdemeanor that statute had been passes some 35 year previously

then the supreme court justice brought it to my attention he introduced a bill to bring the amount to the amount of the inflation over the ensue years the bill was, however, unsuccessful that part of penal code has since been amended even though i had to enforce that law that made any theft of $250 or more a felony i didn't believe that it should be 200 and $50 i, however, took an oath to not only obey but to carry out the laws of the state of california and i did the same thing as a itself commissioner

december 6th as long as any part of sections which comprise the responsibilities of the ethics commission of the law i followed the law i do not i do not try to subvert the law in an dishonorable or other way. >> thank you. >> colleagues any other questions for quentin kopp. >> seeing none, oh, wait supervisor yee. >> in regards to the meetings i assume that was a short-term you can't go to any other meeting. >> the commission meetings. >> i since i've been on it for 4 months or 5 months have you missed any meetings.

>> what's our attendance record. >> 100 percent. >> great thank you quentin kopp. >> i don't believe there is any other questions. >> colleagues any questions for ms. thurman. >> i know this is probably a different question for you since you're not on the commission but i asked the same question that wanted to go beyond the commission whether or not they've actually attend any of the commission meetings one way to show their interest. >> no, i haven't attended any meetings i've looked at the minutes and meetings on line. >> thank you

colleagues any other questions for ms. thurman. >> thank you, ms. thurman. >> my any public comment that want to comment please stand up to the left i'll also will call some names in case the folks are still present please state your name. >> my name is ace on the case i'm so grateful and honored to be here i know that will surprise a lot of people personally with the credentials where the what can a you call it city by the bay any advice to the young lady our credentials seem very credential wise but seems you need to be a business consultant because man, i don't know if you know the city by the

bay the most corrupt city in the united states and if you don't know about the meetings or anything i don't know who sent you anything but ma'am, this is city hall which i call i call it silly hall. my name is ace and i'm on the case. i'm here supporting former senator supervisors judge that's ready to put san francisco on the right track and -- excuse-me. supervisors welcome to city hall most ever you this is your first term listen this man goes back i'm not here to express you but to it is black history month i'm a black man 3 generations i truly support judge former supervisor and all of that to be part - i went to the meeting for the first time in a long time went to the ethics commission a long time and they didn't do nothing and

they didn't do nothing i see the way they're doing it seems like the issue is this is the man that you need to stand my name is ace and i'm on the case. and i'm hoping and praying that you - you know, i ain't new this is the judge that we need him on the first day i was talking about challenging to find out what was going on in the mayor's office this is willie brown or nobody so i strongly support thank you. >> thank you just 0 want to remind the members of the public to please address their comments directly to this committee and not to members of the public. >> eileen district 4 resident here in support of quentin kopp to the ethics commission just coping has a long rich

criteria to public service and on is ethics commission he is also brought a wealth of experience to the commission i'll urge the committee to move his reappointment forward with represents i'll urge the committee to move this forward today thank you. >> next person please. good afternoon. i'm nancy i'm proud to support the nominees of quentin kopp for the vacancies on the ethics commission we're extremely lucky to have quentin kopp to over the years of experience with wisdom to foster good government have not ethics commission the other candidate didn't measure up to the quentin kopp experience or demonstrated the ability to demonstrate the cases present to the commission

specifically ms. thurman not tenant any meetings but my research says she's only spoken here ones at city hall on the day of september all in favor, signify by i since she was on the committee to the status of women to talk about welcome business owners only one time in the last 5 years found her way to testify about something important not been shown to written a letter to a city agency stating the position on nothing that is not appropriate to have a november vice sit in judgment of people that may have violated the ethic i agree with her perhaps more useful to oh, her services to the mayor to appoint her on the commission on the status of women for backgrounds not compliment this

commission for ethics but certainly compliments her status of women as to diversity i wish to point out the ethics commission has two qualified women he look forward to adding more women when their qualifications mirror the postponement thank you for considering my comments and recommend it that you move quentin kopp to return to the board of the ethics commission thank you very much. >> thank you next person please. good afternoon committee i'm from the ethics member and former grand injury i'm here to offer my support for quentin kopp phenomenon number one ethics commission san francisco has been and still is to a droeg a city polluted with dark money and paid to play politics that undermine the public confidence

in the government gratefully san francisco ethics commission is in a reset pattern operating with more robust and greater integrity that is given rise to improved public trust each the commiserates bring a skill set and quentin kopp past experience serving on municipal and july levels offers insights into ethics laws are more effectively utilized quentin kopp has proven he is essential for advancing stronger transparent and pay to play political positions and implementing the measures he's the factor in the public right of approval for recent measures that strive for less lobbying practices i'd like to briefing address common causes of opposition to

quentin kopps reappoint it appears this is in a lawsuit challenging a measure sponsored by common cause let's be clear quentin kopps opposition to this measure is not based on an objection to public finance but rather commissioner quentin kopp that an amendment of this nature should go back to the voters given the fact that the original measure neatest approval by the voters on the issue of public campaign finance in san francisco or my other city as quentin kopp has already stated he supports the rule of law an effort to link quentin kopp participates in the lawsuit position as a ethics commission commissioner is extremely misleading by no means is he attempting to increase maintain the public finance i strongly

urge the reappointment of quentin kopp and ask this committee to recommend quentin kopp to the full board of supervisors thank you. >> next person please. supervisors ray hart for san francisco open government. i'm here today to state i'm emphatically oppose quentin kopp as part of ethics commission last time the testifying voted to recommend that quentin kopp find him in violation of the shocking for a commitment at the ethics commission meeting as quentin kopp is an attorney and former member of judicious he has familiarity with the basic comment of forfeiture despite his - he can impose his belief to restrict the bodies on which he serves in the short

time he has acted like he's in a court room i may not agree with what a man says but defend to to death what he says not quentin kopp he is not qualified to serve i'll occasionally encounter opinions and expressed in words he didn't agree if you can't stand the heat get out of kitchen quentin kopp will not voluntarily remove himself in the kitchen as current commissioner, i building this committee should recommended to the full board someone who will acknowledge and accept the rights of citizens of san francisco to make a free and upcoming restricted public comment we don't need someone serving on the ethics commission who has shown insults to be a

mini trump. >> next person please. >> good afternoon, supervisors thanks for the opportunity to speak my name is david the executive director of the first amendment coalition just coping is a long time member of the board of directors and like to talk about our organization it is relevant to quentin kopp that are irrelevant to the example of the ethics commission the first amendment certification coalition a nonprofit in san raphel around thirty years and bring cases on behalf of the examination and protection of right of public access for public meetings and public records we operate a legal hotline free to the users and the hotline provides expert first amendment legal advice to anyone that has

questions about how to get access to public records and access to meeting we put on a campaign of public advocacy and education we put on forums around the state relating to issues that have first amendment relevant and gave me in oversight and appropriate get involved in legislation for northern california issues on free speech, free press and government transparency judge coping has been on the board for 3 plus years and been invaluable asset to the first amendment coalition and commission long experience with the legislative and long captioners as a judge and in public services has been a crucial importance to any organization to do what that side those

qualifications make him for qualified than my candidate i can image i strongly urge you to recommend his reappointment thank you. >> next person please. good afternoon, supervisors my name is peter i'm the vice chair of the ethics commission ass i that will be helpful to be chair in the next month or so the ethics commission within the last few years has again gone a transformation i came on the ethics commission in 2014 appointed by city attorney dennis herrera you look at the history of ethics commission for 15 years before or at least 10 years before it was a commission that had done virtually nothing as the executive director who was totally incompetent and engaged in all sorts of things

mainly to keep files on his desk within the last couple of years we've be able to turn that around are the appointment from los angeles and go long time head of the ethics commission in regards to a couple of things we've done we've got proposition t and prop m on the ballot what the ethics commission can do and has not been done in years people of san francisco approved those in one sense by 87 percent quentin kopp is an exemplar individual in terms of one that has qualifications to look at the i believeal situation situation of a political entity like san francisco and know exactly what is a one not wrong and what should or shouldn't done i've known him for 50 years in san francisco has to do with

with the political life since he's been on the commission he was given a tremendous emphasis to a whole range the ethical situations that the people of san francisco need and are entitled to i respectfully ask you to repoint out him. >> thank you commissioner hayon. >> good afternoon and thank you. i'm with common cause where precedence are plaid it is important that san francisco continue to be an example for the country of what public service should look like common cause supported this for decades from the proposition that created the ethics commission and the city public campaign financing program to last year promotion t from that

perspective i'd like to share some things for the appointee to the ifkts we think an appointee should understand the purpose. >> support the ethics commission and effect commissioner should be open and fair-minded and consider enforcement free from bias their on agenda the political integrity for both voter confidence and encouraging the participation a commissioner should respect the duty their to serve as a constant of the everyday san franciscan and ethics commissioner should say the responsible and encourage the board of supervisors to carefully consider his reappointment to allow more time for the applicants or additional applicant to the office of the commission before it goes to vote the board should feel confident the commissioner will

advance the duties of ethics commission. >> thank you next person please. good afternoon. my name is linda and i am speaking in support of kathleen thurman i've come to know her in our work in advocacy for girls in the city and county of san francisco with the alliance for girls i can speak to her integrity which is unparalleled she's someone who is completely transparent, she's inclusive in here leadership and advocacy for girls in the city of san francisco and the bay area at large i believe her experience in both the private sector and on nonprofit arena particularly

with her board membership with girls inc. she's demonstrated her thoughtful and experience consideration for her fiduciary responsibilities involved with being on the board and as she mentions in her testimony in running her own business and in her leadership capacity with the national association of women business owners from my work with her in the alliance for girls i think she'll be a tremendous asset on the ethics commission thank you. >> thank you very much. next person please. >> good afternoon my name is legit a 28 year resident of san francisco a homeowner in the western edition and and advocate i've not spoken

at the city hall note that of record it is interesting to me i'm here in support of kathleen thurman and her opportunity to be appointed to the commission i met k5erg9 less than for the alliance for the girls she was an advisor the persuaded me to get involved and to consider a position of scale he reach many girls in the san francisco bay area and being polled nationally to kate hartley less than with her work through the navaho speaking to the sacramento legislative does have experience not brought to light here in advocating a state and local level and national level as i've gotten to know here it struck me her willingness to go

with the pain and most problems exist demonstrated by her work with battered woman 25 years and her leadership in driving the auditorium where my favorite story she doesn't bring up was she arrived this was a male dominated business with posts throughout the company she noted to go to them and advocate for change in a way without counter balancing the company it was a challenging role for any woman her - guaranteed her and us she works clovg with organizations and elevating the solutions and bringing forgot treats and builds trust and brings forth framework and fairness -

>> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> members of committee i'm larry bush the co-found of friends of ethics i wrote an article for the creation of ethics commission which was taken up by supervisor kelly asked to sit in with his office to charter the amendment in 1995 i called for spending caps for supervisors and that passed unanimouslyly with the support of then quentin kopp and he also was the treasurer for proposition t that passed with 87 percent of the vote a member of civil grand jury on ethics and i'm familiar with the requirements of the ethics

commission i'm fully in support of quentin kopp and the 20 years that the ethics commission was created evident the first person appointed to the commission that held a er run for political office he's got the unique experience of recognizing what happens in campaigns and what we don't see in campaigns an important sight for the commission an excellent commissioner moved on issues with the federal government not taking a strong position on iktsdz or transparency so much so that a local bay area lawyer who served on the federal ethics commission just reassigned saying the institution couldn't get things done in san francisco because of our ability to put things on the ballot we are positions to lead in ways that no other ethics commission in the country can do

in terms of public finance supervisor quentin kopp prop 73 had 3 element the other part it casts on attractions that was topped out by the court but, but important i respectfully ask you to urge to support quentin kopp. >> thank you next person please. good afternoon, supervisors joe kelly is in my name and i'm here in support of judge quentin kopp reappointment i sent an e-mail to all last week that outlined my support of judge quentin kopp i hopefully, will not repeat those thoughts

in gentrification i guess i would offer my thoughts that the ethics commission although public finance is a component of it from you've attended the san francisco ethics commission meeting you know that there is so much more going on in city government than that and then you know not to - this is one of the commission positions that being we wouldn't say an ininsider but knows the working of city government and helpful so to you know i'll leave it at that if you're coming in that the ethics commission in san francisco without ever even attending a meeting there's a

huge learning curve and for that i'd like just i'll leave it at that i don't know if i mentioned i was a member of the grand injure but one on the ethics commission so again, i really hope you'll move today to reappoint judge quentin kopp thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> good afternoon. thank you for the opportunity for to make a couple of comments i'm elaine i'm a member of friends of ethics my membership is recent i was a poor person for the grand jury that did that as others are referred to

during commissioner quentin kopp tenure and ethics commission that's been fascist to see how he brings his rich experience to the job and to the insight full questions he puts in front of the people that come before the ethics commission including the staff reports and that kind of thing he wants to understand everything that is going on before he makes a decision i think that it is also evident he makes companions on the minutes not a lot of people that read the minutes carefully you know he's a detailed person and wants to get everything right as indicated by previous speakers the ifkts has turned a corner compared to the report the 13

and 14 jury and that what commissioner quentin kopp brings to the party is a basically, he's going to keep the momentum moving forward and with that thank you for the opportunity to speak and wholeheartedly support his reappointment to the ethics commission. >> thank you next person please. >> i'm bruce and i lived with my family at 2262, 14th avenue in supervisor norman yee district since 1963 and the co-founder with my wife co-publisher and editor for almost 50 years i say that because i've known quentin kopp all those years and almost every year we would bring him into the garden and

quiz him own this and that he's actively running forest we were a tax and spend paper he was spend less and - we believed in clean government and nobody pushed him around and figured out what happens at city hall we had our arguments because we were on different political labeling but i said before the same hearing a few months ago he's the only person i know in my 50 years of covering san francisco politics candidates and issues the only person i'll recommend on a qualified business to the ethics commission the only one i say that today after he's done a

good job in the few months provided focus and energy and creativity at a time that the ethics commission needed it so i could go on but i think that quentin kopp is person and i hope that you endorse him thanks very much. >> thank you, sir. >> next person please. >> my name is richard i don't have much to say except that i just heard that he was in the air force and during that time i also was in the korean war and i was in the front line and people asked me you know my size and my strength they have supplies - but i have so much

to thank for the air force you, you know in back of us the big battle ships 16 inch guns to for us to just tell them where to shoot and we have the airports jets at a point to we can direct them where they lay the napoleon's and i'm still alive we did veterans are 4 thousand appreciate quentin kopps leadership he helped many of the homeless veterans find a home and job he also a stronger leader to maintain the rotc in the city they have an early knowledge of

training leaderships and many of jrotc members are our generalize and officers i forgot one more item. >> i want to say one more thing a human rights leadership about three years ago - we have lots of flower shop and - >> thank you sir, thank you. >> next person please.

good afternoon. i'm helen the california common cause regretfully we must oppose the appointment of quentin kopp the people of san francisco desire a commissioner that supports side ethics commission unfortunately quentin kopps records documents he did not he opposed prop k that created the ethics commission he authored a proposition that will have prohibited public campaign financing in san francisco he was a plaintiff and authorized public financing program which the ethics commission administers and even after appointed to the ethics commission quentin kopp continued to oppose those ethics reforms 3 days after his appointment he went to governor jerry brown urging the bill that the ethics commission support that on public campaign promises

and quentin kopp has personally joined a lawsuit to overturn this bill public financing is and heart and the core duty of ethics commission it gives candidates from fauldz to support the diversity a chance to run for offices without relying on donors and ivenths nee

comment. >> we may not like but consistent with the law that's what we had to do then and quentin kopp is doing has been doing it is worth understanding that finding the distinction so the concerns don't get distorted i also want to mention our earlier offers and informal suggestions to keep the appointment open to keep people realize before you do that look at the timeline there is some timelines for holding over an appointment for a fixed time and that person could be begun once you go past the timeline not a vacancy on a commission 3 deals

with regulations so i'm saying be careful about changing the timeline on this i urge action now i support quentin kopp unreservesly i don't agree but i respect him thank you. >> thank you, sir any public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues any more comments >> supervisor yee. >> once again thank you to the public for coming out on both sides of this and supporting each candidate. >> this is a tough decision when we have more candidates than slots and persons here with unique qualifications in

their resume judge quentin kopp has the reputation of being very, very, very opinionated but the reputation that stays within the boundary of law that is important for me to hear regardless of where we're in total agreement with public finance situations that repetition that you bring in that is really important to me i know that with the experience not only as an elected official but as a judge to come in with that perspective and no one else on the commission has that is unique that what balance off the total condition itself and because of that i would like

to recommend that we reappoint judge quentin kopp to the commission. >> thank you supervisor fewer any additional questions or comments. >> none thank you. >> i'm before we entertain a motion want to make some comments i had the opportunity to sit down with both candidates i say i think we're in a situation that as supervisor yee said we have two really qualified people i'm not sure they're qualified for the same commission and i think that one of the intention that for this particular commission that is really important qualification is truly understanding the in and outs of government not solely about public finance i can talk about that for a second he live in a moment i think you'll three of us sitting on the body are in any way because

of public financing that affected our campaign but the aspect of the work firemen's in terms of the questions and the nature the understanding of the in and outs of government i think that is a really important qualification i think the commissioner brings that to the table whether or not people agree or disagree i think that ms. thurman i was delighted to meet with her and understand here qualifications and she brings quality to the table i'll ask her to apply for additional commission opportunities based on her interest in work that she's done in the city in terms of public finance it is really important you can't under state unless you've gone through the process i'll speak there my

own position having access to public fund takes a burden off the candidates in terms of how you put your campaign together you can reduce that burden by having assess to the public fund when campaigns are instenos e tense towards the end and plan properly you can have a access to that money that reduces the burden in terms of your time constraint so i'll say regardless of whatever the position i've heard you loud and clear quentin kopp you'll uphold the law no doubt in in my mind from my own perspective is a tremendously important aspect of the reasons i'm sitting here i'll say i'm in full support of what supervisor yee said and i'll be in support of your recommendations to the full

board of supervisors supervisor fewer. >> thank you very much chair yes. i want to say thank you to everyone and the public comment testimony and for submitting your names to participate 2, 3, 4 in important commission i want to say that i think that night time we give the public it is inexcusable to be rude who is testifying before a board and commission i want to reiterate that i think we have a responsibility to the public to encourage public dialogue and night time anyone is rude it is completely inexcusable with that said, i know that judge quentin kopp is qualified for the position and supporting his reappointment to this board thank you. >> colleagues any additional comments can i entertain a motion. >> go ahead and recommend

quentin kopp to be reappointed to the full board. >> seeing no objection this is i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> mr. clerk, call the last item. >> item 8 a hearing excuse me. congratulations quentin kopp on our reappointment a hearing to appoint 7 members for the unexpired term ending 2018 to the urban forestry council there are 7 seats with 8 applicant the applicants are john malcolm hillan

a done deal and michael sullivan for seat 6 and corey lindgren and for seat 6 and 7 as is clerk stated 8 applicant for 7 seats to the urban forestry council if there are no any initial comments if there are not any ask the applicants to speak any applicants line up to the left. >> approximately supervisors my name is andrew sullivan i'm serving often the urban forestry

council on seat 2 i'm a landscape arithmetic in san francisco over 20 years of experience for the last 1890 in san francisco my practice and my work is always been focused on environmental sustainability and stewardship and i always had a keen interest in the universe urban forest for the past 6 years serving on the university council and he served as a the chair the subcommittee of urban forestry council as well so i'll keep it brief if you have any questions i thank you

for your opportunity to continue with my service thank you. >> thank you andrew sullivan i'm sorry do i say oh, colleagues - why not to have them all go through and if you have a question. >> same question i asked how is your attendance. >> close to perfect in subcommittee. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors the second sullivan seeking appointment to the urban forestry i'm a resident of woodland avenue in district 5 i don't work in the urban forestry area but it is been a passion of mine for a long, long time i'm a 25 year volunteer with the friends the urban forestry was iowa's on that board for 12

years and served as board president for a few years the author of a book on the trees of san francisco that was published in 2000 and had a second printing a couple of years ago and maintain a blowing sf trees that is out there and my license plate is sf trees among other things i served on the rec and park commission with a term and one the advantages i'll be pleased to serve on this commission oh, and that i my

attendance record is very, very good idea missed two or three times awhile on the commission. >> good thank you. >> mr. flanagan. >> thank you very much i'll speak for my own self and speak for other members of the come in that couldn't make that first of all, you probably know me i've been worked for the friends of forest for the past 5 years and been on the council for the past 6 years i be i've served as the president for the past 4 years and the first one i did we had a planning session and one of the main to be on advisor to the board of supervisors and to the mayor on issues for the urban forestry i think we've accomplished that and be able to

get qualified people beyond the council so i'm lucky and happy to be work with a dedicated folks who care about the urban forestry issued and i think that i want to underscore what michael sullivan said it as laborer and underscore the word labor we have meetings that go from two or three hours and for us to really spent a lot of time on major issues that are facing the urban forestry and being able to consultant with the supervisors and mayor that is an important thing we do and that's my thing i want to speak on behalf of of the members that couldn't be here they had prior commitments and said they couldn't miss that that is right that meg lowman was appointed by the mayor she's incredibly,

incredibly qualified she's a scientist and i think if you you've gotten her resume i'd like to quiz you on page 28 of her resume it is about thirty pages along an extensive resume of publishing and a world renowned stewart expert and that's serviced us well to have her on our council so i strongly, strongly urge you folks to reappoint here i'll go to john malcolm hillan i think his first name is john but i think on the council for 9 years as a state in urban forestry issued he's been a very loyal member of the council of great resource i think his attendance is close to perfect since he's been on the council mine is almost perfect i think i've missed 2 in the past of years

and john malcolm hillan is a great member of labor tree commission with a history that is helpful as we consider landmark tree issues going forward and the next person i'll speak to say phillip pierce going for the last seat you mention he's very qualified used to work for the friends the urban forestry and going for the community seat on the council he worked for 4 years as president of the urban forest as a committee organizer know all parts of the city and reassigned from the president prop e running the campaign for prop e that was successful he was deeply connected to all issues of the urban forestry and i think gave us a great

perspective on various community and their needs when it comes to urban forest one other candidate i forgot i not spoken for meg and phil, who oh, corey lindgren i brought on dan kida on a couple a couple of years ago that represented pg&e his relocated to inspector every inch of the telephone wires and protect them against trees has a afghan arborist for is boots on the ground for the urban forestry street trees and moving out of the bay area and his replacement is corey not corey what's his name? kobe i had a meeting with colby and he's taken off daddy's

position and committed to being on the council i think he'll be a great candidate >> any questions? >> supervisor yee. >> i actually didn't have a question. >> i'm sorry, i thought you told me you did sorry about that any questions or comments. >> or my public 9 to 5. >> any public comment open this item before we take comments from the board members. >> yes. >> please. hi nancy again i would like in support of current reappointment of the gentleman who appeared and that are being proposed and one exception to the proposal that mr. flanagan made i oppose colby

peterson i think that the prior person has a - i'm not impressed with colby peterson he didn't have my passion or interest in trees this man lives in redwood city i don't understand why he is applying for this he's not gotten any letters of support and not preying me have a letter from a school that has complaints of is an organization that chopped down a bunch of trees on a hillside and the children are upset and asked repeatedly to have those trees

replaced for nature trees or something that will sustain the erosion on the hillside now this is not a man that tells me understands the mission of urban forestry council which is to work with people he didn't work with those folks he can supply you with this letter i don't know the role of mr. petersen had in the grant this is an important issue he should is where objected or - i'd like to hold it seat up seat two or three executor one but have someone appointed not for someone that has the commitment and passion for the trees. >> any public comment that wish to comment on this item. >> mr. flanagan if you've already spoken. >> i can speak in public

comment can't i. >> yes. >> i respectfully disagree with our candidates he has a deep understanding the challenges of managing after urban forestry i like having pg&e on the council that way we can have influence with pencil that has direct impact on one 24 thousand trees he's an arborist i'm disappointed he didn't send my letters of recommendation i'm sorry i had an hour conversation i was not impressed but dan has endorsed his membership thank you very much. >> any other any public comment want to comment seeing

none, public comment is closed. supervisor yee. >> thank you supervisor safai first of all, i'd like to say that i wish they were more diversity in the group being that 3 of you joking but seriously i mean one of the things again, i serve on the rules committee for two years and one of the things i put forward was the composition of anything whether this was balance and i believe that one woman meg - yeah, so there is different ways to cut - >> oh, there's some other seats besides the 7 i guess my point could be more difference in many ways

i suggest for two seat two, that we go ahead and maybe continue that item - i know it is nice is mr. peterson spoke to that but we're the ones that appoint we need - at least i feel there is a question and like to should have made that to the reach out to me that would be helpful people have to understand - >> supervisor fewer. >> thank you chair so this is a counselor that actually is really important to me i think you know that my father-in-law founded the urban forestry i come i married into family 35 years of actress and

my husband continues to prune the street trees so i'm concerned about and ethic in case diversity i think that we have diversity in thought and opinion i actually would agree with supervisor yee that we keep the one position open and do outreach to look for adding more diversities to the council i agree that everyone has an expertise for the appointment to the council but having gender and racial diversity it is important for san francisco my suggestion i'll say to actually supervisor yee suggestion that leaving that one seat open but follow the recommendations i think myself i'll say that john

malcolm hillan and saudi arabian and meg lowman. >> supervisor yee. >> one more comment nothing personal but trying to bring is it - 100 percent we need to give waivers i mean in regards to like can we find anyone in san francisco that's a general question and that's always a challenge for me to know whether a person that we're going to support with a residential waiver is two questions whether not necessarily in san francisco can do this year qualified or

the person is so qualified deserves a waiver i i want to put that out there i notice that meg needs a waiver i will support that waiver only because we need the exit. >> thank you. i'll add to that last point i think that the residents requirement for something particular as our urban tree and forest council that is important to have residents interacting with that on the daily basis ♪ instance you described mr. flanagan to have a california scientist with age understanding of eucalyptus >> what that means in the context of san francisco right now i think that really important so i support what excuse me - supervisor yee said i'll probably am supportive of leaving the seat open for mr.

petersen and urge you to folks work with to go out and find some other qualified candidates it adds to the diversity of this council. >> urge you not to be someone that need to register to the requirement unless they say bring something unique to the table so can members can we entertain a motion. >> would the motion be to move the certain people forward and on the same motion to continue seat number 2. >> okay. >> and also to make sure we get the residency waiver >> let me do - so i'd like to recommend that we move john john

malcolm hillan to be appointed to seat one andrew sullivan to seat 2 and dan flanagan to seat 4 and meg lowman to seat 5 and michael sullivan seat 6 and phillip pierce to seat 7 and to continue seat number 2 and to also 3. >> he did 12, 4 and 3 is open. >> and also provide a waiver or set the waiver from a

residental waiver for meg lowman. >> thank you supervisor yee seeing no objection it is i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> mr. clerk mr. clerk, is there any additional business to come before this body? >> there are no more items the last one with a with a positive recommendation. >> thank you, colleagues we're adjournedmuch.

>> (clapping.) >> say a special thanks to our new police chief and fire chief for being here thank you and to all of the departments the growing number of departments under the zoning administrator's office and say to all of you and staff thank you for being loyal to our zoning administrator and thank you for working hard and thank you for all your years of service i thinks if my talks with zoning administrator kelly and i, we know that these are not jobs we can do on our own at the depend on great public servants and i'll say this when i was zoning administrator and i believe that naomi building this

today, we have the best downstairs if all the world thank you. >> (clapping.) >> thank you charlotte hluet our competitive officer of protocol and my school advisors is here she's excited because this now is the city of the free city college thank you. >> thank you to all of you for doing that. >> (clapping.) >> ladies and gentlemen, i know that you know that this is a very special time in our city's history a time when we're rediscovering what diversity means we are reinvest in the things we truly believe in because we're all as a city challenged to do better and do more restrictive

and certainly from the vantage point as a mayor i need other great leaders to step forward i have that in naomi cell not only a great zoning administrator but all this time having her kids a great mom yes. >> (clapping.) >> she led the effort and one the really people that i depend on on what charlotte and others to have one the best women conferences recently a lot of people on the agenda. >> (clapping.) >> and then i know that she's been at my side and working with the board of supervisors all the elected officials to keep our infrastructure going keep our city departments working but more importantly to keep the spirit of this city positive

so at this point let me just say it is a pleasure to work with you naomi it's a pleasure to work with a mom which i think it historic for a zoning administrator and it's it's a pleasure to put up with harlan kelly all this time (laughter) >> (clapping.) >> so are we ready for the next 5 years all right. coming up up naomi >> (clapping.) >> please say your name after me

>> and the constitution of the state of california. >> (repeated.) >> against all enemies. >> (repeated.) >> and that i will bear true faith and allegiance. united states. >> (repeated.) >> and to the constitution of the state of california. >> (repeated.) >> that i take this oath freely. >> (repeated.) >> without any mental reservation. >> (repeated.) >> or purpose of evasion. >> (repeated.) >> (repeated.) >> and during such time as i hold office of dir for the city and county of san francisco repeated

congratulatio congratulations. >> thank you. >> i can't tell you how grateful i am for you mayor ed lee for a second term and thank you to the honorable board of supervisors every single one of you for your anonymous support in the years working with you want to thank you all wouldn't have been possible without the confirmation so thank you to you and all san franciscans that love this city as much as i do i

serve ♪ capability with humility 5 years ago at my swearing in i felt the gravity and urgency of my responsibility and not regard them and that remains true today this is a job that i take seriously because san francisco is my home where i live with my husband and two sons and parents william and maria i experience first hand the decision at city hall in on a 4 pen maliciously appointed me as city purchaser one the first phone calls was was to ed lee also a city purchaser i explained the importance of the ability to effect change whether if so for providing opportunity to minority and women owned

businesses insuring equal benefits to domestic partners paying prevailing wages and burden of proof products in emergency precipitating o preparedness those conversations led to the foundation and values of the zoning administrator's office in ed lee i proudly continue to this day with the new administration with religious registry i look forward to work with the immigrant foyers with the pathways to citizenship pathways and working with the immigration lawyers to train our residents how to respond to ice raids where from dollars will come to our sanctuary city that is evidence by the gop for the caltrans electrification as a

planner i know how important federal dollars to our seawall? why we supported a $500 million transportation bond to support a three hundred seawall bond in the future as the trumpet administration talked about rolling bake the affordable health care act i'm honored to be working with labor and enforcement to implement health care accountability ordinance in the health care security ordinances that may serve as a backstop as women reproductive rights are threatened i'm proud to work with mayor ed lee we'll continue to address accountable childcare and promoting women in leadership and positions and reaffirm our commitment to inclusion and equality for all i'm grateful to my team among the 25 department heads of city agrees we have the privilege and

honor of working everyday with you many of you are here today and two numbs to mention i'm proud what we achieved in the past 5 years and the great work with the eyes on the future i think my friend and colleagues here i'm so touched you're here with me like to thank you and unfortunately not here but someone who is true been a mentor in sacramento that is the willie brown he hired me 20s years ago at the age of 22 and he encouraged me to go to law school or not promote me unless i went to law school but truly in my corner as former gavin newsom and thank you you've been a dear friend 20 years ago and in closing because i know i

want to party what all of you celebrations like this i always take time to invoke my family they're my anchor i have my 96 greatest aunt and my cousin denise . >> (clapping.) >> and they have been in my corner since the moment i was born i want to thank my father william and mother and harlan and sons - >> (clapping.) >> i know of my obesity are proud of the work i do i hear overhear them talking about it in the work many long hours and

it takes time away from them i struggle with that at times but to listen to them talk about my accomplishment. >> what i do as a leader for the city and working with the mayor and the board of supervisors makes me know that is all worth that there are times they rather me stay home and bake cookies but the faith that all of you have in me and my love for the city keeps me going and collectively our voices will be heard and san francisco politics and the principles and culture will remay i have a motion main unsecurity guard and thank you very much i love to

>> the regular meeting for wednesday, february, 15th, 2017, i would like to remind the members of the p you believe that we do not tolerate any disruption and please silence your mobile devices and when speaking before the commission, state your name for the record. i would like to take the roll at this time. first on the agenda, it is general public comment, within the subject matter description,

with respect to agenda items it will be afforded when it is reached, each member may address the commission for up to three minutes,vy no speaker cards. >> does any member like to speak on a non-agenda items. seeing and hearing none we will close comment. >> that will place us under the department matters, director's announcements. >> mr. fry is not here at the moment, so maybe we will reopen that later. >> sure. we will move on to commission matters. >> yes. >> very good, commission matters item three, president's report and announcements. >> item four, consider of adoption for the minutes arc july, 20, and the draft minutes of hpc february first, 2017 hearing. >> commissioners anything for comments? all that i have to dredge my memory.

we transscribed the comment letter from the staff on to here and we are probably waiting for that. >> i thought that was mine. >> okay. >> does any member of the public wish to comment on the draft meeting minutes on wednesday, july twenth for the review committee or february first, for regular hearing? do i have a motion to adopt the minutes? >> motion to adopt? >> second. >> thank you, commissioners on that motion to adopt the minutes to the july, 20th, and the regular hearing for february first, 2017. commissioner haus? yes, johns, yes. >> matsuda, yes. >> highland. >> yes. >> and we move the commissioners passes seven to zero. xh is that will place us under item five, commission members and questions.

i received an e-mail regarding item eleven, and just a couple of announcements, i made this announcement at a cultural heritage committee meeting a few minutes ago. in the february 4th, chronicle, there was an article entitled preservation falls flat, and he made a suggestion about possibly creating plagues to talk about the outside of the building to talk about the stories inside the sense of place and i thought that that was a really good idea. and possibly food for thought, for this commission to take up further with the planning department staff to see if we can somehow encourage that. second thing is that there was

an e-mail that was forwarded to me today about the california arts council creating the cultural cultural district, asking for a letter of interest from various organizations as well as local businesses to become part of their pilot program to further acknowledge diverse and cultural resources, to identify high concentration of cultural resources and activities thought that it would be a great idea if the city and county looked into that and possibly would apply because one of the prerequisites is that the entity already have passed a survey. so i thought that it would be a good opportunity for us to

highlight all of the good things that we do here and then third is an article that appeared in the new fillmore and i believe this is, and this is the february 2017, addition, and it is called flash back. and it is just located on the last page, and it it is called the local hang out and it talks about the businesses that have been around for a while and i thought that that would be an example or a good way to recognize the legacy businesses that we have approved. >> thank you, and could you forward, perhaps that e-mail to mr. fry and mr. ionan and they fox ward it to the rest of the commission in >> yes. >> mr. highland? >> i too was contacted and e-mail communications with ruben and rose, item agenda item eleven. and commissioner? >> i was contacted through e-mail as well. >> pearlman? >> i was as well and i ran into him at the planning department the other day and he gave me a

preview of project that we are going to see. >> okay, why don't we go back to item b. so commissioners back to the department matters, item one director's announcements. commissioners a formal report from the director, however, happy to answer any questions should you have them. >> seeing none, item two, review of passed events of the planning commission and staff report and announcements. >> tim fry, the department staff, and no formal report from the planning commission, and however just one small announcement, one and two make you aware that the next lgbtq cultural heritage straggy working meeting will occur on february 22nd, in the city hall. in room, 278. and we will forward you some information if you are interested in attending and then the following meeting will be on

march 22nd, in the same room at city hall from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. >> both at 6:00? the 22nd. >> yes, both are at the same time and at the next meeting we will have a variety of speakers that are working on exist iing initiatives such as the harvey milk plaza improvements and the valley, improvements eagle plaza elts. and in the next meeting in march we are going to have the representatives from all of the existing cultural heritage districts or strategies present. including jay chess, and some existing i am sorry i am blanking on the third one right now. but representatives from each of those groups will present and give the groups some broader ideas of what they can implement in their own strategy.

and that concludes my comments, unless you have any questions? >> thank you. >> we can move on to i guess item d. >> commissioners that will place us under items proposed for continuance, item 6, 2013.0975 coa, proposed for continuance, to april, 19, item seven, for case 2013.0384 u. the african american hert i can context proposed for continue aus august, 27th. >> does anyone wish to comment? >> hearing none, we will close public comment, commissioner hylan. what is driving the august, 16th date for the african american? >> commissioners and miss xhith from our office can give you an up date on what we have been accomplished so far.

>> right. good afternoon, commissioners. and so, since the may 4th, 2016 hearing where we last heard the african american, historical context statement, the african american historical and cultural society and broader community have requested additional community out reach be done around the project and since then we have been working on the historical society to develop he goals and a plan around the out reach and we are very close to solidifying that program. and we anticipate the out reach to begin this spring. so it is by the time that we are done with the out reach and we have the feedback and we are able to make the revisions. the summer we are thinking that august is realistic date for us. >> thank you. >> do we have a motion to continue these items?

>> i move to continue these items. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners. on that motion, then to continue items as proposed, commissioner haws. >> yes, junk. >> yes. johns. >> yes. matsuda. >> yes, pearl man. >> yes. >> hillis. >> yes. >> wolfram. >> yes. >> that passes 7 to 0, and places us under your regular calendar for item 8, (d. landis: (415) 575-9118) fy 2017-2019 proposed department budget and work program . this is your final review, commissioners. >> good afternoon commissioners, deb bra with the planning department. i am back again to go over our proposed budget for fiscal years, 2017, 2018 sxh for the rolling 2018, 2019. as you recall we were here two weeks ago and gave an overview of both the current year, which was the basis of creating the

budget for next year, as well as the proposal for next year. so, today, i am going to go over the revenue and expenditures that we discussed last time as well as the changes that have taken place since then. so i am happy to report that we expect to get some grant fund and some impact fee funding, for projects that we were not aware of receiving that money the last time that it got presented to you. excuse me. >> and then, i also i am going to go into a lilt bit about the work program of physicians and remind you have the resources dedicated specifically to historic preservation in the department and there are no changes in those areas. but i thought that you might want to refresher and if you do have any questions, of course, about the general budget, or about historic press certify vaguses we are happy to answer

any questions that you may have. the last time that i was here, the over all number was decreasing and as you can see today, we are looking at an increase from 51.2 million, to 52.1 million next year. and again that is because of this one time funding that we identified within the last few days. and i can go into more detail about that, but you can see that there is an extra 300,000 dollars in the grants line which is now 1.875 and last time it was 1.575. and then, if you go down a few rows to the development impact fees, that is now at 4.9. and then we are going to use that money as you can see from this slide, nothing is really changed except for the project line, which is where we will be

budgeting the expenditures for these. so we have three major changes. the first one actually the first two are with the impact fees and the transit center district. and those will be funding 1 year's worth of work and the rail alignment and the benefit study also known as rab, this is work related to aligning cal train and high speed rail, getting trained through the city to the transit center, and so the planning around that. and then we have 100,000 dollars for street scraping. and also with the impact fees. and we are hopeful that we will be able to get an award for resiliency grant from the noaa to fund sea level rise and resiliency work. those are the charges just a few of them. but fairly sizeable numbers and so we wanted to make sure you

were aware of those. that has changed since the last time that we were here, this is a recap of the positions we do not have any new positions we do have a new repurposed vacant positions one will be used for the pick, and two for development agreements. and one thing that i do want to point out is that one fte has changed from the last presentation. and that is because one of the development agreements positions had not been up loaded in the budget system yet. so it had been noted as a deleting when in fact we are going to keep it and so there is a change of one fte and the plan has not changed at all. and that is just the number that the budget system spit out. and then the right-hand side of your slide you will see the numbers comparing the current

year and the next fiscal years proposed budget fte and then as a reminder, the fte in the budget does have a little bit of a negative number associated with it, due to attrition assumptions. we count the full human beings. the budget says that we are not convinced that everyone is going to be here for the full year and so the funding is taken out. assuming that we will have a little bit of vacancy throughout the year so he you will see the difference between the budgeted fte and the work program, fte. and so one of the things that we do like to make sure to review with you every year is the work program because of the fte being more than 70 percent of our budget. this is staff right, and this is here where the staff are allocated and this is what the staff do. we ko do try to make sure that

you understand how everybody is allocated throughout the department and as you can see, the vast majority are in current planning, and environmental planning and the zoning and administration equalling, 75 percent of all of our planner work and that is in all of the processing and review of the permits and applications. >> getting into a little bit more detail, current planning is where the historic preservation is located in our department and you will, you will see it's number two on the slide. and i will again, review with you in a little bit more detail in just a few slides, what historic preservation staff resources we have in the department. although not as large in terms of staff, the city wide division has a wide variety of project and activities that they cover, and so they actually have two

slides dedicated to them. one of their core functions and the general ongoing work, which you see detailed here, and the second, excuse me. of the work, and the 5 year plan project. so, everything from the city of neighborhoods to connect sf relating to transportation. the environmental planning group i am sure that you are aware, they have the environmental review work for the planning department that they are responsible for. and zoning and compliance, the compliance part is the enforcement and we do also call out three people for short term rentals within this group. so getting more specifically

into historic preservation, this should look familiar to you. and we presented again two weeks ago that the commission was supportive at that time of continuing with this plan moving into this proposed budget. that we have not made any changes based on the feedback from our last presentation. and then in addition to the staff resources we also have some consultants and the education component which the public education which does include the plague program and the survey, and the grapts in the resources that are specifically dedicated to the historic preservation and again this has not changed since our last presentation. >> and so that sums it up.

we are here two weeks ago and we are here again today to ask for your recommendation to the planning commission of our proposed budget. we did have a draft resolution in the packet and i would like to point out that there are two changes to that since we sent the packet and one is that it is an increase of 2.42 fte instead of 1.42, fte and that is as i mentioned earlier because there has been one in the budget system we had deleted it. we are keeping it to repurpose it. and when this was published, that change had not come through yet. and then there was a technical entry that had caused our general fund support number to change. which is an automatic adjustment by the budget system as well. so we will send an updated resolution with our current general fund support number.

but, that, again, is not a change in our plan. and everything that we discussed last time with the exception of the new projects with our special funding sources is as weed presented it. so, we are hoping that you will recommend this to the planning commission, and hoping that the planning commission recommends it to the mayor's office. and the mayor's office and the board of supervisors think this is a wonderful plan and maybe in fact we should get more support and more money for projects we will see if that actually happens. and in the meantime, we have a few months of back and forth and negotiating before the budget for the entire city is finalized in july and if you have any questions today i would be ha py to answer them. >> yes, thank you. commissioner matsuda? >> yeah, i have one question. earlier in our cultural heritage meet mrg fry told us when we thought was great news that there was going to be a full time position available to help with legacy businesses.

and so i am assuming this is one of those repurposed vacant positions that are noted here at 0.49, and to go up to 0.60 and is that going to change to 1.40, and can you, can you give me further information about that? >> sure, and commissioner, and the staff, and the reason that it is budgeted the 0.49 and with a slight increase as well. and it is a solid fte and we were not sure exactly how much time this position would need to devote to the program. and so the full fte and so it is there and at least right now in the fiscal year and in the next two fiscal years, we have broken down the remaining fte and it is related to work, and so it

exists in the case work, up above but it is split now just because of is that the reason why under the work planning under the historic preservation, and that will reflect the fte that is going to be working with legacy business? >> correct, there is no change to that position. so that is maintained over the next several years. >> commissioner? >> yes, i would like to go back and maybe i missed this last time on the budget change from the prior presentations and maybe i didn't. and that is the, noah grant for resiliency. and the 300,000 so what my comments are related to the relationship between this program, the resiliency program

and our historic preservation work program. and you may remember maybe, erica chime in here, the other parts of my life i am a member of the working group of the port of san francisco water front land use plan. which is doing an up date of the 1997 plan. and it is one of our major topics is the concern over the crumbling sea wall. and what would be an appropriate and remedy for rehabilitation of that. and of course, the topic of preservation, and design, and how it will feed into that and the engineering solution. so i recommended that the as a way for the historic preservation commission to be involved in that discussion that a representative of the commission, and to be nominated to sit on the climate change

panel. and i presume that the resiliency grant program is directed to that panel. that climate change panel and also the resiliency by design, which is another program that is incorporated into that. so what i am trying to get at here, i didn't get much headway on getting recognition that the historic preservation commission should have a seat on that panel. i still am interested in that, and but i would like for you know, tim, if somehow, there would be some staff time dedicated at the appropriate time two recommendations on preservation design criteria in that, and that for when we get to that piece both in the climate and in the city's change, panel, and as well as of course, in the port's planning

process. so it is a little bit premature at the moment, but i just wanted to say heads up on that. just heads up that i would like to see it in if there is some wording that at some point that i need to bring forward i will do that. >> if you don't have any further comments on that, on the money, for the program, that is the entire. >> sure, so the grant from the noa, from my understanding they have historically like to fund regional multi jurisdictional efforts. there are already groups even just within the city working on a number of related projects that fall under the resiliency

umbrella. >> all right. >> if that grant is not successful it does not effect the work program; is that correct? ? >> correct. >> the grant funding is not funding for staff time. >> any other comments or questions? >> we will take public comment and then we will come back and give the recommendations. >> thank you. >> we will take the public comment on the department budget for 2017, 18, any member of the public that wish to comment on this item, come forward. seeing and hearing none, we will close public comment and bring it back to the commission. >> do you have a final comment or a motion to recommend approval? >> sure i move to approve the proposed budget for the planning department and our work program. >> second smchlt >> if there is nothing further there is a motion to adopt the recommendation for approval on that motion, hasz. >> yes. >> as amended by staff.

>> yes, as amended by this as a revised resolution. >> and that is okay to the maker. >> yes. >> on that motion, hasz. >> yes. >> junk. >> yes. >> johns. >> yes. >> matsuda. >> yes. pearlman. >> yes. >> hylan. >> yes. it passes seven to zero. >> commissioners item nine, (d. smith: (415) 575-9093) pier 40 the embarcadero legacy business. >> good afternoon, commissioners xhith, the department staff. and the item before you today is one legacy business, combination and application, for the restaurant which was submitted to the planning department on january, 17th and is ready for rour recommendation, the

application was previously reviewed for the office of small business, pioneer to the planning department. sb 40 and, outlining the physical features and the traditions associated with the success of the business, founded in 1957, by 17-year-old immigrant, carmen has served the fair to the san francisco for 60 years. it is currently located in south beach on the embarcader where it has operated for 15 years, while the locations that changed, carmen's has consistently been situated near the water front, it is one of the long stanning filipino businesses with food in the city and plays a role in the community, pro-he vieding space for the space for the civic groups to meet, after the review of the application, the

restaurant has met the criteria to request of for listing on the legacy business registry. we have representatives to speak during the public comment and conclude my presentation and i am happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you, commissioners any questions? >> no. >> i just made this comment earlier during our heritage that this is a great application, and hoping that in the future when we can start to create some type of a template that seems like a menu or seems to give us more of a field of the restaurant and how important it is, and the history is good here in the photos but the actual food, i don't know taking pictures of food but it needs a menu to show the diversity of food that this restaurant offers would be something that i think would be

welcome and interesting to the public. >> we will take public comment, or the a mri can't wish to speak. >> if so please come forward. >> you don't have to. >> no, no. >> okay seeing that there is no public comment, we will close it and bring it back to the commission. >> commissioners >> i have the one question, is this the same carmen on the pier in mission bay. >> yes. >> numerous locations. >> yes. ? edo i have a motion to recommend approval for this? >> i so move. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners and they are on that motion to adopt that recommendation for approval, commissioner hasz, junk, yes. jones, yes. >> matsuda, >> yes, pearlman, hylan. yes. >> and wolfram, that motion

passes 7 to 0. and the commissioners it will place us on item ten, legacy business program. this is for your review and comments. >> before i begin the presentation, i just have some packets with some information outlining what i will be or we will be presenting this afternoon. thank you. >>

>> good afternoon commissioners, i am stephanie, and the planning department staff and my colleague smith and i will be providing an up date on the legacy business program. just get started just to give a little background on the program the registry was passed by the board of 2015, and it was established to recognize the long standing community business services as valuable assets to the city, currently the legislation allows for review and approval of up to 300 applications per year, and in november, 2015, proposition j was passed to establish the legacy business, historic preservation funds which offers

grants to owners and property owners leasing spaces to these businesses. the office of small business has hired a full time business manager. and additionally the planning department has budgeted for a full time staff position dedicated to the planning and the review of these applications. the program has been referenced and incorporated into various new legislation, such as the special youth district, which is approved by the planning commission on february 9th of this year and now awaiting review by the board of supervisors. a requirement for any new, non-residential use, where the immediate prior use was a legacy

business, and where the property has been vacant for less than three years. similarly the lgbt cultural heritage strategy that is under way is also looking for ways to utilize the legacy business program as part of their program. and we are anticipating that the future legislation and the city wide efforts will also look to for ways to incorporate this program into their language as well. just to give a few numbers. these are the most up to date numbers that we have been provided by the office of small business, ranging from the initial round of applications in july of 2016, until february of 2017. and there have been a total of 159 businesses that have been nominated for listing on the registry.

and or have submitted applications to the office of small business. and of the 159 businesses 73 have submitted applications and been heard and recommended for approval by hpc. 67 of those have been approved and designated by the small business commission with the remainder to be heard at the small business commission in the near future. >> 51 of the designated legacy businesses have applied for and received business assistance grants through the legacy business, historic preservation if und and this amount has approximated to about $400,000, dribltded among the 51 businesses. >> 70 of the 159 have yet to be submitted to the planning department. ten applications are currently under review.

and 6 of the 159 have provided applications but have not received nominations letters from a member of the board of supervisors, or the mayor. which is a requirement before these applications can be forwarded to the planning department. and so on the next side i will have a map showing the distribution of these approved designated legacy businesses. and in the packets that i distributed there should be additional maps showing the break down by planning quadrant and then again by the supervisor's district and then if you look at the over all geographic distribution map, the supervisor's districts should have numbers in front of these summarizing how many designated businesses are within that

corresponding supervisor's district. >> okay. so this is just to give kind of an overview of distribution of businesses. the top three districts with the most disedesignate businesses ae district three which is coming in at 12, designated businesses which is the china town, north beach area. district nine which is the mission district, neighborhood which has about 14. and then, district five which is the western addition area which has about ten on the opposite side of that, the districts with the lowest numbers of designated businesses include districts eleven, which is the outer mission area which has none. and then the district 7 which is

the inner sunset, and district four which is the outer which both have two each. >> and then just to give an overview of the process for how businesses get nominated and designated. the mayor or a member of the board of supervisors has to submit a letter of nomination to the office of small business. the legacy business manager at the office of small business will then reach out to the nominated business to send an application, ask if they are interested in applying, help to facilitate filling out the application. >> the applicant will then submit their completed application and any materials to the office of small business. along with the $50 filing fee. and on the office of small business, we will review the application for completeness and will sometimes work with the applicant to bring their application to a more complete

level if the manager feels like it is not to that level quite yet. and then the application will be forwarded to be schedule for a hearing before the hpc. the planning department has 30 days to review these applications. prepared for the case report and, then a draft resolution, and schedule it before the hpc hpc will review the business applications along with the case report and draft resolutions and it will provide advisory recommendations to the small business commission for approval or disapproval. and a final hearing to determine whether or not the business meet the criteria for listing in the registry, and the small business commission will make the final decision.

>> at this point in the prepttation, we would like to review what we have learned so far about the legacy business program and the implementation since it launched last july and the following two slides outline items that we have heard from the hpc and others from the office of small business as well as the star working on the program. >> first we think that the application should be simplified, the number of businesses nominated, have required, significant amount of assistance from the office of small business or the third party solution to complete their applications the planning staff believes that there are ways to maybe, edit down the application or change it so that they can complete more on their own. >> for those who will need the technical assistance, the department has the capacity to

add to it. and currently we are just reviewing the application itself. to work with the applicants to get it at each hearing. we have also heard of the history and significant should be collect and recorded. the next set of items relate to the nominations at the office of small business and this is information that we have learned from the office of small business and i am sure that you are don't have additional questions, we understand that the office has some of the nominations awaiting application and so these are businesses that have been nominated by the mayor or the board of supervisors and but have not had an application

submitted so far and there is a number of reasons as to why that may happen. >> the office of small business says that it can submit three applications each hearing, in 2017, given the rate of submissions, and the ability of the mayor and board of supervisors to nominate up to 300 applications per year, we estimate that the work load may continue to increase as the number of nominations and applications are passed to the number of those coming before the commission. >> and relating to the program out reach, and identity. you would like to see those including those businesses that might be lesser known, and representing other represented groups or neighborhoods or those

that may not have as much resores or may not be connected to the local elected officials who which are required to nominate the legacy business. also that you would like to see more avenues opened for such business to access the program and for increased out reach efforts and recognition surrounding the legacy program. and supporting the program or being involved in how, the history and any other historical documentation that we might be able to collect, whether it is what the commissioner opened or the oral history interviews that we have been in discussion with the library and u.s. professors at the university of san francisco, about getting some of their students involved with the

program. to do some oral history collections. >> to sum up the solutions that we have identified around addressing some of these issues, first includes that the department has secured funding to hire a full time legacy business planner who will be designated to the program to better be able to work with the office of small business to simplify the application and to work closely and directly with the businesses to help to develop the applications themselves and doing so would enable the planning department to bring more than 3 applications per hearing to the hpc and increase the capacity over all of the city to process a higher number of these nominations. tla will be coming forward. and in response to commissioner's desire to include more to direct them to include

the transcripts of the public testimony in the record, and we have been in discussions with it and getting the university students involved with an oral history collection program and the library has offered to be a repose tory for that information. promotional issues, and include the department could maintain a list of the potential legacy businesses and, so we already have some starting points with

could be a way to gather that information. and then, secondly, we could then reach out to those directly throughout the out reach of the office of small business, or we could create a tool kit for the board of supervisors and the mayor's office. to consider for them to consider nominating some of those businesses to the registry. and the tool kit could also provide you know, supporting documentation to help them do that. so it could include an faq and the merchants and neighborhood groups in the district and information about where to get help in completing amply indications. >> for the solutions include

organizing legacy business application workshops for potential applicants and offering educational programs to help raise the visibility of the program such as tours of legacy businesses or commercial quarters at the high concentration of businesses. >> finally the planning department communication staff is willing to help to promote the legacy business program to the media to help to pitch the stories about some of these designated businesses and also to support the office of small business in the effort to create a brand and identity and that is a local map or other collateral. commissioners we were just at the cultural heritage asset subcommittee meeting where we had a discussion about this legacy business registry, and i wanted to summarize some of their comments and recommendations here. they could chime in if i missed

anything. san francisco is the first to pass this legislation and we can amplify the program and maybe other cities will be more interested increase the funding in the future to show that it is successful and bring more attention to it. and there is a discussion of fund-raising even in the private sector to perhaps suppliment the funding, the city funding. changes that were proposed include perhaps, the nominations being opened to more than the supervisors or the mayors, or if there is a way to the public or the businesses themselves or the historical organizations or other interested bodies in nominating the business themself, and you know, practice

pz there is another way to gauge, the community, and the significant of the letters of support or something like that. just to open up the process more, and it does not have to go through just the supervisor or a mayor. >> and suggesting or the suggestions make us to stream line the process, and there is a wish to see that hpc and planning could play a lead role on the registry itself. if there there was some way to revise the process. so it was more in the domain of planning and hpc and the rest of the business, the grants and the business assistance remains with the office of small business. the increased amount of applications the committee would like to see that more than 3 to 5 applications coming for ward. so we want to be aible to maximize the potentially, 300 applications moving for ward

each year. and the what i to advance the agenda quicker, and the small business commission and rather than having the lab and having the application in multiple languages to keep them in the languages that they were filled out that way to provide more people, the opportunity to apply and to learn about the history. and there is a need for increased acknowledgment of the legacy businesses that have been designated and so whether it is a plague sticker and the information on the website, just promoting and highlighting those businesses. so that anyone from the public should be able to find legacy businesses or tourist visitors can visit them. and highlighting the stories of those places, as well whether it

is through the media or other programs. i think that is all i have in my notes. that concludes my presentation. where we are to be hearing any additional comments that you would like to add or if you have any questions. >> thank you, actually, a couple of questions. so right now, is on the planning website are the legacy businesses listed? or how would you find out about what legacy businesses are ready have been registered? >> we do have a legacy business website, but i don't believe that the average businesses are listed on the website and i am not sure about the office of small business's website, they can probably but they are. >> yes, they are listed on the office of small business website. >> so they are listed but is there any of the in frgs that is in the package there or is this just a list? >> can you come and speak to the

mic? >> sorry. >> richard crow, business manager. we have it on the website, the small business a web page that has all of the registry but, the legacy business is on the registry, which is now 70. and it includes the name of the business, telephone number, address, and website. and we for most of them have copies of the resolution that got the business on the registry. and we have the da it that date that they added to the registry and we have a link not only on the website address, but to the website, but really it is just a very basic list. and what we would like to do is to have a map like you showed, here, and be able to click on the map and have information come up from them and from that information be things that are, you know, from the application. so that is something that we

would like to work on. >> okay. thank you. >> i have another question you. on if i was to just say, that i was an architect hired to work on a project that was legacy business and i went to the planning information map, would it show there under the historic, and under the historic tab that this is a legacy business? >> yes. >> we certainly have that in our system. >> so actually, as the application comes in, it is already, entered. >> it is entered in the planning information map. >> right, and upon resieval of the application. >> and i guess that the other question is that we are not tracking it in any way, and like the legacy business goes out of business or it changes its business or not tracking that though? >> right. >> we are not tracking that. >> okay. >> commissioners any other questions or comments? >> and commissioner johns? >> yes, and i think that this is a question for mr. crow. as if i understood correctly,

you are the one who reviews the application or someone who works for you does. and then decides whether or not it needs for want of a better work to be beefed up? >> that is correct. yes, all applications come through me, and basically it is a one person team, you know, do i work really closely with rigina who is the office of small business, but all applications come to me and i will review them and work closely with the applicant and it takes two to three weeks for a very active applicant, in getting the marrive up to speed and a passive applicant and maybe not enthusiastic about it or maybe is too busy, that can take months to get through the applications and again there is a lot of back and forth and we also have a non-profit organization called working solutions and they have a new

program called business retention and part of that is to help the businesses get through the city programs including the legacy program and so we have been really working with them where it is necessary to get the assistance for the applicants and help them with their narrative and take photograph and they help them get their packets together and pretty much everything has to go through here me. if i have a completed application and i have time i have been sending it to the planning staff and they have been doing a preliminary review to give me feedback that is a bonus things that we have done, five percent of the time but that is helpful as well. and that makes the applications a little bit better. that is not official, but anywhere that i can get feedback is helpful. >> everything goes through me and by the time that it gets to the planning staff, it is usually, much higher quality than what i originally received it. >> well, to assist you, do you

have a fem plate or a list of criteria or a list of things that you consider to be desirable in, and application? that you use when you are reviewing these? >> there is definitely some criteria that they need to meet, they need to be 30 years or older, with no break in operations. >> that is not what i meant. >> that is all staff. >> yeah. >> so the stuff, that goes without saying. they have to answer all of the questions in the narrative, and if you look at the application, there is three criteria and the different questions that we have been lifted in the application, they really need to meet and answer all of those questions or most of them, so we work really closely on that part of the application and then we try to make sure there is significant

photographs and then where possible articles and letters of recommendation and things like that. and yeah, a lot of it goes into the narrative and that is the heart of the application. >> do you have something that you can give to ap mri can'ts to assist them in writing their narrative? >> so we created the template and we followed the questions in there and i, if you don't have to use this it is not required. if received the communication, and i never had communication with that person, and often times i will take their just to see how they answered the questions and see if i will go back to them and say that these are all of the blanks that you

need to answer. make sure that everything else fits in. and i would very much like to see your template. is there some way that you can get that to me through the secretary? >> sure. >> thank you. >> public comment? >> yeah, seeing none, i will bring it back, i have commissioner matsuda first. >> i had a few questions for mr. crow. glad to hear that you have assistance to help you, and is that the name of the organization in do they have buy lingual help to help those who are not native accomplish speakers?

i know that the organization as a whole they have staff that speak 15, 20 different languages. >> good. and word is getting out so that they can help >> yes, anybody who needs so i kind of judged the application. and i try to work with them one on one, but sometimes i can tell right off the bat they might need extra assist aness and i will connect them with the working solutions if i feel they could use that. and definitely if there are any language issues, then we can connect them with the workers. >> and so looking at the map that staff has provided it looks good that there are a lot of businesses that are represented in the china town area. but that historically has been a community with people speak chinese. and then in the mission, where

not recently, but i would say, over the past 30, 40, years there were a number of people who spoke spanish and so it is good to know that there are bi lingual staff people to help and hopefully increase. and so working solutions can be more and more of an asset to you, so that you are not standing alone going through these applications. i had a question about the applicants who have gone there and we understand that 400,000 has been distributed is that information available on the website to tell us what the minimum and the maximum cap is per business? and how these businesses are using that utilizing those funds? >> it is not on the website. but the grant itself, the grant application, for the rules and the instructions and the

application is on the website, the office of the small business website. we are still distributing the funds. so the 400,000 has not been distributed? >> not entirely. so what happened is that we have 51 applications two we are still working on because they don't have the and they did not provide us with the fte and now in the future, when the money is tighter, we will have to all of the applications finalized before we start to distribute the money, but in this case, we had enough money to cover them. >> and so we, 49 of them are down to or still kind of working on but we know that it is going to come out to 400,000, and the minimum is 500, which is one fte and the maximum is 50,000, which is 100. fte and that is the range of grants. >> of what they can apply for? >> what they can apply for and what we can get. >> and we are distributing the funds in groups, we have to set up all 51 vendors as sorry, all

51 as vendors with the city and county of san francisco, which is a complex process and it takes us a couple of months, as it gets set up as a vendor, we are doing them in groups, once a week and so we have done two groups which is 15 payments and they are in the process right now. >> could you when that is available forward it to the staff because i think that the commission would really like to see how those moneys are being distributed and seeing how it can create a positive effect on retaining legacy businesses? >> yes, and we have got some intend to spend the money on. into 12 groups. >> they must choose between one of twoefl things. >> no they can use the money, for anything that would grow their business but it fell into

12 different categories frment >> and how are you monitoring that? >> so we are going to be asking in the future grant how they spent the money. are they given a time limit, they must spend it in a year? >> we haven't said that necessarily, but we are going to ask them about it and we are going to monitor it and those who don't apply next year we are going to ask them separately what they spent the funds on and then we have indicated that they need to make sure that they are counting and you know, some of these small businesses they don't have accounting some of the larger ones do, and so we said that you need to make sure that this grant money gets added into your accounting. and goes out of your accounting and we can check that so we will be able to check how they are spending the moneyy. >> so it is not only for tangible things. it could be to hire another person to continue to keep the business going?

>> that is correct. >> it could be very general, because the proposition j was general, so it could be for rent it could be for improvements and exterior building improvements and we had some it in there. and anything like that. >> great. and just the final question, i don't know if you had a dhans to look through what the staff the planning department staff has provided as possible suggestions and what the commission has suggested. but if you have any thoughts on that, i mean that we would welcome your input and your recommendations as well. because we want to make sure that this legacy business program is successful, and can be further enhanced. and hopefully, all of our legacy business can be a part of this. >> i think that there were great suggestions and we very much enjoy working with the planning staff and look forward to a person coming on board. and you know the thing with.

we also have been making sure that the structure of the program has been set in place, so that we have to get make it through the backlog of all of the applications of when we got hired in july, we had to so a lot of what we have been doing is structural to get that in order, but we have not been able to do the fun stuff, which is the marketing and promotion and, so we want to put in an rfp no later than april and do some of the things to recognize these

businesses and make it more spectacular for the businesses and for the public i want to recognize peskin and make sure that he is nominating a lot from the china town area. >> thank you very much, i had one question for miss smith is that okay? >> sure. >> thank you for including the legacy bars and restaurants and i know that you helped to work on this in your past life, when you put this list together, about you go through a vetting process, ie, did you have to go to each of these restaurants and

bars and asked the similar questions that you have provided us here. >> we didn't go through that intensive of a vetting process. to come up with the list, we had a committee heritage who had an education, what we called the education out reach committee many historians and the people who are very familiar with the city have put initial with it together, and then we could have public out reach, campaigns and through the social media where we invited anybody to nominate legacy businesses so that is how we got two over 100. >> do you have some documentation on had each of these. >> yeah and, after the list or the list was created then we will do research and then we had interns assist in doing the research. and some of them were interviewed, and some, you know, went and some went and collected it, and things like that and scanned it, and heritage actually has an interactive map

of the legacy bars and restaurants. that have been certificated. and so i only note a few of the legacy businesses that we have come to our attention that are on this list. so it would be great if you already have this information to somehow funnel it through the mayor's office so that they can then go to these businesses or visa versa to make sure that we can include this list of 140, plus the legends in the making. yes? that is a great idea. ? ethank you, commissioner pearlman? >> thank you. i just want to say i just think that it has been amazing that at the beginning around last summer, when we were all lamenting when things were not moving well that from july to today, you have done a lot of

work and when you say a team of one, it is not a team of one it is you. it has to be more than one person and so i really want to acknowledge what you have been doing so far, i think that it is really very impressive most of my thoughts about this are you know, just sort of the expansion of this. i was thinking about there are legacy businesses that are big businesses like levi, or wells fargo. and there are legacy graphic design and branding firms and it might be worth when you are are he haddy to do that, to see if there is a way to get some volunteers, you know, a graphic designer a volunteer to come up with the branding imagery, and for this program. and also you talked about the funding and what better than the levi, foundation to support the legacy businesses of san francisco. you know, there would be nothing better than for those businesses

to support these businesses. so, there is -- and you probably thought of these things, and i think that is, you know, a way to really get some funding outside of the sources we have to really push this, because i think that you know, the notion of the information about a legacy business that is on their door, it is on yelp when you go to yelp and it pops up because there was an icon and because it is a legacy business and there are a lot of ways to create the linkages that are not just, and the tourist are not going to go on the office of small business or the planning website to find these businesses you know, linking it to local web sites and you have know tourist web sites and yelp and some of these other types and thing like stories at sf gate. you know, if you get chronicle on-line, you know, there are stories that they do that are,

you know, stay on their page foz months and months and months, so that you can and so that it is there, every day as i scroll down, i read that story, but it is here. >> so you know, getting, you know, maybe it is john king, orp someone to do some stories about the program interviewing you know we have had a lot of enthusiastic applicants and some amazing stories. so to get those in to you know local news, sf gate, and then also preservation magazines and travel magazines and you know, obviously these are not things that will happen today, but i think that there is a lot of ways to you know, make this program as you said, just much more inspiring and exciting and that is the point of it all to keep these and that is the spirit of the city, so i want to congratulate you personally and

the staff as well. >> thank you. >> commissioner? >> i would also like to congratulate richard. i have just heard, fantastic things from many of the businesses that we have already approved it is great that we are going to get an fte and this for marketing and i think that is good and when i say, and i mean that i would be happy to ask the

chamber, why don't you do a program, and this is all bridges. why don't you do a program on this? and invite, and that something that i would do to be on your own and the idea if there is a stock press released someone has picked that up and we have a press release that goes out when we nominate these businesses? >> no. i mean that would maybe be something that we could create. so, maybe that is part of our rfp. so just whenever we make a decision, that announcement comes, and it is a shoot out. you know, a press release that goes right to the wire. >> yeah. >> and it is the story in the line last week about the international cafe that came through the local wire. >> yeah. >> so that is another idea. but any way, i think that we can do stuff. >> yeah. >> thank you commissioners. any other further comments? >> this was just the informational item and so thank

you very much for your presentation. thank you. >> if there is nothing further we can move on to item 11 (m. boudreaux: (415) 575-9140) 40/50/62/78/88 1st street, 512/516/526 mission street "oceanwide center" present takes. >> thank you, good afternoon, department staff, before you is an informational item, returning athe your request, version two of the historic display for the ocean wide center project. which is part of the practice m for historical resources. on june, 16th of 2016, this item was before you for reviewing the comments on the original version. to provide the background on this for you, to provide, the display and the connection to the over all project. and the packets from the planning commission, submittal from last may, and this includes a site plan and rendering, i want to briefly orient you to

some of the renders that i have provided if i could get the projector please? >> the project introduces public open spaces. can you turn it on? >> yeah. >> thank you. and introduces new or enhanced connections throughout the downtown site, which is located one block from the transbay transit center. this site plan was included in your case packet. and this area along elm alley is the place, here again. and it is the general location that the project sponsor is proposing for the version, for the interpretive display, and it helps to visualize, the

connections around the alley. which is at the base of the first street tower and accessible from many different points in the site, and off of first street. the second and this is a pocket park, which is off of mission street. and lastly, this is the street pedestrian way which is a public way in which will be improved in the

>> the project team is here along with architects signage consultants in historic resource consultants but they have a more detailed presentation for you and we are all available for questions. that concludes my presentation should >> thank you ready for the project sponsor to come forward. if you could maybe do the whole presentation in 10 min.? >> i will try to i will go as fast as i can. so good

afternoon commissioners. i'm presenting on behalf of a broad team and i think you can see the presentation just as a little introduction, of myself, i'm keith- >> can we get the overhead, to? >> we kind of specialize in this area of historic interpretation. on the left you see a project we did for heritage trails in manhattan that is now in the 9/11 museum. that's from the world trade however an exhibit on the star-spangled banner. website on iconic architecture and in some of the exhibits that we have done at griffith absorb the tory which the landmark building. so the agenda is up here and i will go through it. in june as was mentioned this scheme was presented to you. it's a single pylon with three parts. since that time as a

design team we stepped back good we looked at a variety of different ideas. we went out and looked in san francisco particularly, at the embarcadero history walk which we like components of a good it's an outdoor walk. we also looked at wink on center which has a series of historic displays about that building and we liked aspects of that as well. there was a project that we saw on the guardian that kind of compared san francisco then and now with a series of historic photographs that actually morphed into to connect contemporary ones. so the idea that we had for elam alley history walk was

basically to combine all the great things from those three projects and pull them together in a single place. as was presented earlier by fanning department, it runs all the way home for street to akers street along elam alley and it does so with 17 components. those will be looked at a little bit as we go forward in design development but that's what we are presenting. we are going from just one item to many and i will walk you through each of those elements one by one so that you can see it. this is the site as we are looking at it from first street looking towards elam alley. one of the entrances. as you get closer you get to see the beginning of that alley which is quite narrow at the beginning but then widens out. one of the things you asked for before in summer presentation is that we

identify this project and we are proposing to do it in three locations. the first is at first admission. i have a sample here of one of the bronzes. there are a series of ron's castings in the painting. they will identify elam alley history walk and they will do it at the entrance to first admission.. they will also do it at the urban room at the threshold to elam alley that is right at the base of the escalator there and actually you could probably see this in your packet close-up, you will be able to as you descend from the escalators coming down from the office tower you will be able to see one of those markers in the distance. then the third location is at eckerd

street. so these three what i call thresholds are the identifiers for signage that directs people to this destination. the elements that comprise elam alley history walk are numerous. there's a display case at first admission and that-we have some incredible content. this is gathered from the marley hopeful, and we are sure some artifacts, we have great photographs the weekend recount the history of 78 first and the company in that display case that basically sits right off of for street at the entrance to the history walk. further down the walk we have a second display case. this one will talk about 62 for street and also the [inaudible] company

that made the boss of the road genes and we have some wonderful posters and maybe even some artifacts as well. this is a slightly different display case that we are envisioning. we will be able to be seen from the urban room from the outside and this is a depiction of that. it's a transparent window that you actually be able to see through the artifacts and we are looking at possibly, if the kitchen layout and so forth will allow, that you will be able to see it from the inside of the café looking out. again a very transparent almost a fish tank like display case of these two stories. one of a business and one of a building. further down the way we have some terrific maps and the maps

obviously they are very strong in the 1800s antenna moving forward into the 1900s and even today. these maps are best looked at and plan and we are envisioning doing what we call a maps medallion, which is to please those maps in the ground skate again in this kind of bronze configuration and identifying some of the typical stories that can be told with maps. again, the fires, the ships that resided here and again an example on the lower right of such a map at union square quite near our studio. joining some of these displays we are talking about a series of breadcrumbs and these breadcrumbs are scavenger hunt if you will. again, linking this long alley and we are talking about two different components. the first would be

quote and these quote harken back all the way to kind of the first sighting of san francisco date in 1776 and then reach on to today as well and they talk about native american themes and so forth and so on. so we have begun to select some of those quotes and organize them and they would be hydro cut and placed into the granite hard scape that courses through elam alley. we are also talking about doing five trade person release these would be of artistic renditions and actually do some boy held up earlier is probably the best rendition of that. you can see some examples of trades and elements in it. again, we

looked at a series of different folk who have worked in this region. again, harkening back to native americans and shipwrights and even up on to today. so again a kind of mixture of different historic elements that are embedded into this alley that kind of stretches from first to akers street. as depicted here. the last element is perhaps the most complex or the overarching element. it's talked about the south of market, eastern section , and the history of that region. it's a complex story and it has a lot of chapters and i will show you some of that content right now. this first page starts in 1769 and

goes up to 1860. it talks about this area when it was called, here. about when a cold and some of the beautiful maps and post rations that go along with it. moving forward to when this area was called happy valley, again some of the photographs is that the advent of black and white photograph and you're starting to see some great historic panoramic photographs and detailed photographs as well. then, moving forward all the way up short of the earthquake, again, this region change names again. the tire flat and again some wonderful photography showing his misses and commerce in this region. in 1906 obviously the transformation of this area with the earthquake and its rebirth which is still going on today and again terrific photography to support that

story as well. on to the 1920s and 30s, and again all this research we have done together with page and turn ball in kind of a broad team and it's assembled and kind of ready to go to the next stage. here, again 1930s to the present and up into the 21st century could again great photography starting to see color photography as well. our proposition here is to use media, bright superbright exterior monitors and again to kind of role through the six chapters of history in an animated fashion, a little bit like flipping through on a rolodex. that's what this rendering shows here. so in kind of summary we have a very different thing than we show you in the summer. it's a

broader gesture. it's more consolidated into a place. i think it is a destination now. one that will hopefully draw forests to this place and also the one that has people as people coming and going to businesses here will be we discover every day. so we are very excited about it and we are hoping this is a must see. >> thank you that's a great presentation. i think what we'll do is take public comment at this time than we may have questions or comments for you. at this time will take public comment on the subject does any member of the public wish to speak on this item queen if so come for seeing none, and hearing none, people public comment is closed. very impressed by this as an patient. i get up one comment just to caution you on the use of the word, the present. you've got for example some of them about how the market from

the 1970s to the present or the techie being there from the 1990s to the present. you might want to use exact dates for that because this is a long lifespan. 20 years people, what is this techie and why do they save the present thing when it doesn't exist anymore. just one comment. commissioner pearlman >> yes. thank you very much that this has come an incredibly long way and i think this is a really good-could be used as a model in the future. i mean clearly this project that's a lot of money relative to the cost of building these buildings i'm a but this is what we've often talked about as a way to engage-i think the tourist trade is an important one but this engages the people there every day. if people are working their everyday work and to learn about what happened on the site where they're walking over it every day. i think

that's one of the most important pieces of something like this. i appreciated that it's spread out and it gives you multiple times to go there one day you're walking in and of your cuppa coffee and you got a little stunned so you subject other days you just see a quote on the sidewalk whatever it is. i think this is extremely successful and i for one will certainly be as a must-see to go see it. so thank you very much but i really appreciate that you've gone back and taken something that was had a nice design case pose a rather ordinary historical display and now it is something that like the freedom trail in boston, like some of these other places, it is something that is truly how we tell the story of our history in a very wonderful way. so thank you be thank you. commissioner matsuda >> thank you i think is a great improvement from what we can before. just a couple of questions in a couple of comments. i appreciate that you is going this elam alley's

comedic historical street but how are people going to know about that clique you have good stubble was when the draw people to actually go down that alley? you talk about seeing something from afar from the elevator but what's going to attract him queen that's just one question i had just in general and then, i am of the understanding that the content of what will take place will start from page 15 about right? on the handout, just a few questions and comments. is this going to the actual wording, the content of easier okay? >> it's easier to answer the question- >> one by one queen >> yes. one by one >> about the history

-historical main street did i think that's a great concept and a happy that it's went to be spread throughout but what can a be my draw to go there? is a tourist, as somebody was got my cuppa coffee and walking to work, what is my jaw to go there? >> well, i'm not sure what kinds of promotion might do for this but again i can only speak to what is physically there and it didn't show up super well on the slides. it probably was better under handouts but the thresholds i think are really quite dramatic because they are literally welcome mats that sit almost in first street and mission. they literally kind of moved out onto the site as they do at ecker street as well. i think that the urban room, which is a large public space that third threshold that sits

at the kind of border of elam alley is also quite substantial. these are big big panels. 4 feet, 5 feet wide. i think they're pretty substantial welcome mats if you will. >> so the visuals will just after we catch my eye. okay. second come on the content the wording of the contents, as commissioner wolfram said looking in the future to kind of make sure that we are clear about language, i also say to look back your if you are a tourist you don't know what happened in 1906. so just to put a little bit more context about how dramatic that was to change the face of the city. i think it's important. so that was my first comments on i think the first thing to then, on page 37, you talk about the different periods of our history in san francisco and you talk about pre-1776. i don't know if it should be

categorized as a hunter gatherer or not. the native american community has been in san francisco for a long time. the long time before any of us they have many very rich traditions and customs were maybe different from what we do today but nonetheless, it was a strong community. so i would just maybe we think that categorized categorization you have there.then just to talk about populations, to put some context when you talk about going from 1769 to 1860 as a there's a typo on yerba buena so we can merely see the impact. as you know we don't spend a lot of time staring at things even though we should be. so i want to know right away what does it mean in terms of people? comedy people did aid increase so we can immediately

get that affect. i guess kind of on the same line as commissioner wolfram, looking that we want to make sure that people walk away with some good strong history. >> let me step back. i think first of all this is a concept design. so what you are seeing before you is just that. it's not final tax. it's not finally bedded. it will go through a vetting process and some discussion about working with the archivists here. every project that we do would undergo that kind of vetting. the concept design were really just talked about putting down some of the stories to get that convey to you. all of these comments that you've given us we will take under consideration as we advance to design development and further. >> right. >> commissioner johnck >> my main, and i think this is all very great. you really did [inaudible] identically am

attracted to the scale, the very large scale and him looking at the last page where you had said the 1860s be about [inaudible] you did say 4-5 feet wide and then [inaudible] >> the large niche >> the large niche which is super and a 3-d kind of affect. i really like that. anyway i want to thank you. wonderful. >> thank you. the measures any other final comments? >> 51, and a funny comment. back in the 1950s were from post-world war ii up into the 1980s every architect used to draw the people and draw people in their bead mothers with baby carriages and little balloons. now look at these digital

renderings i notice there's one over 35. in any of these. >> in the hand sketched ryan's >> yes in the hand sketched drawings. but it's actually sort of a common similar to what commissioner wolfram said about the techies. for the techies are there today and 20 years from now. it just the funny thing i noticed good is that the people in them using these buildings these big high-rise buildings? 55 and under. >> mishna hyland >> i agree >> commissioner hyland >> i agree with the other commissioners. the product is, wait a long way in a truly wonderful. just for the record on a follow-up on the conversation i had with the attorneys the connectivity on that visual display. will that have any feature capabilities of tapping into that if this notion of the city archivist being able to cur