>> good afternoon the meeting will come to order welcome to the wednesday, february 22, 2017, of the rules committee i'm supervisor safai chair of the committee to my right is vice chair supervisor fewer and to my right is rules committee member supervisor yee and he's on his

way our collective a derrick evans and thank you jesse larson and mark for staffing this meeting mr. clerk, any announcements? >> eating and drinking is not permitted in the gallery my documents should be submitted to the clerk items will be on the board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> thank you mr. clerk please call the first item number one a hearing to consider pointing out the members we're in resident of the poll from the clerk of the board which supervisor fewer expressed interest all other supervisors declined the 143 corbett avenue to be appointed. >> thank you, madam clerk supervisor fewer would you like to say a few words or straight

to public comment. >> straight to public comment. >> okay. i guess mr. clerk can i make a motion to recuse supervisor fewer without a second. >> yes. a few public comments first and then. >> okay. thank you. >> let's hear from public comment any public comment on this item? members of the public have two minutes state our first and last name speak directly into the microphone leave a copy for the official file we we call public comment file to the left and call you in order. >> seeing no members of the public who wish to testify on this item we'll go straight to making a motion to recuse supervisor fewer. >> question. mr. chair we're waiting for supervisor yee and

we'll losses quorum. >> that's why i was asking we'll hold off and- can we skip that item and go to item number two supervisor fewer. >> mr. clerk we'll return to item number one when supervisor yee is back. >> item number 2 a motion approving or rejecting ben bleiman to the entertainment commission july 21st, 2018. >> thank you, mr. speaker, colleagues, we have the mayor's appointment on the entertainment commission welcomeblast ben bleiman did i say that right. >> would you, please address the committee and speak on your qualifications and i thank you for the opportunity to come before the committee for entertainment commission commissioner, i feel like my experience as a business owner in san francisco and my advocacy

on behalf of the night life in san francisco for the last 5 or 6 years gives me the ideal qualification agency a business owner i have owned 8 and 10 bars and restaurant in san francisco and a busy events company that puts on full-scale prouksz with musical events through the experience i have developed intimate knowledge with working with the neighbors and the local community to make sure our night life business is done responsibly and successfully if i had to boil down my philosophical on san francisco night life i would put it i stand for responsible educational and affordable night life for residents of san

francisco and visitors that means didn't mean that every night life establishment is correct for every single neighborhood whether it is a jazz club in the avenues or something a thumping night life in the south of market each area has its own flavor and needs to be take into account when making decisions around that. >> as on my advocacy side i've been the chairman of the called culture association that is the main trade organization that represents bars and restaurant and music festivals and music venues through the experience i've worked with supervisors across the aisle whether on the left to pass meaningful legislation in san francisco and some of my main favorite

scott wiener's school board members have been i spearheaded a petition to support sxooepdz petition that gardened 4 hundred signatures and used as a main piece in her argument for passing that legislation and i also structural in helping to write and navigate the passage of 10 b a complicated subject that had kind of tortured the night life advocates for decades we were able to pass a meaningful reform are that working with supervisor campos and supervisor farrell together as well as the poa and the police chief so all the experiences i've had taught me how to advocate for responsible needle in the haystack in san francisco and my experience as a

business owner to successfully operate night life establishments in san francisco. >> again, thank you ben bleiman colleagues any questions for ben bleiman. >> supervisor fewer. >> no questions. >> okay seeing none, i will ask a question i know you talked about supervisor president london breed's legislation how has that impacted our industry sew it's the first of its kind in the world a landmark not as a city but the world nightclubs and music venues have been in areas of low population density that's why they were there not to bother the neighbors, etc. with the hemorrhaging in san francisco and the boom even if residents move on all of a sudden and saw

the areas with major areas of development the issue at hand people will tour a condo next to an existing club and turned off on wednesday afternoon they buy the million dollars plus condo and on they're first night they hear the music coming from next door business as usual inform a night life waiting to get in, etc. and having serious issues this legislation protected not an incredible amount but major venues in san francisco to protect them from developers moving in and not informing the residents moving of the facility issues with the night life nearby and so how it did that it required the developers to inform residents ahead of time in writing of the appearance of

a night life establishment and that went a huge way towards allowing the two important things residents and night life to co-exist peacefully it is hard to understate figuratively and actually gray. >> i have one more question he know a lot of the work on the entertainment commission is about preserving existing night life and preserving venues but if you can speak a little bit about our thoughts about potentially expanding into areas of the city that modesty not have that economic make up that. >> it is important night life in san francisco is more expensive to do business and anymore expensive for the customers on the customers does the one way we can help to mitigate that and the effect of

rising expense of doing business filet mignon is a thing for the wealthy and not for everyone else that he can't afford a drink or ticket price, etc. this is to expand night time and not necessarily allow clubs but extend night life offering to neighborhoods that don't have them like the live music permit for jazz or bluegrass or other offering not to crazy but the diversification is the amount of initially there will be affordable options it is a main point by will hope to stress as a commissioner. >> as a part of light city representing a part of the city that is definitely underserved by night life and opportunities of such that is something that is important to me as a

supervisor and member of the committee thank you for take into consideration colleagues any more questions and supervisor yee. >> let me follow-up supervisor safais question so in reverse i guess whether this is new developed built in traditionally not night life areas you know their complaining when the night life was there already i guess wasn't i'll concerned about it from you're thinking this you should expand into the other areas or people at home want a home that is quiet and the not put night life there. >> yeah. >> and the people that run operate those things can't say

well, what are they complaining about. >> there are two points night life a huge category and to me it means you know quiet jazz or acoustical music up to the premier nightclubs in the city i don't think that nightclubs should be in every neighborhood and not right for every street and community; right? it has to be done carefully and the other thing there's a fundamental difference between a place it existed peacefully and operated responsibly for years or decades and a new place that is moving on where people are already living peacefully this is a transmission between the two things and you need to take a case by case and from the local community for example, in

supervisor district 11 will embrace new opportunity not looking at for new night life activities we that need to work with those communities. >> thank you. >> any other questions oh, supervisor fewer. >> thank you. i have one question what are your thoughts on the entertainment business. >> did you say rationale racially. >> this is bigger than the entertainment commission but i think that prioritizing diverse racially and socioeconomic and, etc. is key and really helping smaller maybe groups that don't have access to incredible

amounts of wealth as others do to navigate and on the night life places and working with each neighborhood specifically and if we're in one neighborhood in chinatown they'll want a totally different offering of night life for the residents in chinatown than soma or north beach, etc. so i think that is treeing to support each community to bring more night life to as they see fit to they're residents. >> i notice that actually, the businesses that are own are all businesses that actually have a liquor license; is that correct? >> yes. >> and you serve ages over 21. >> they have the licenses that means technologically we can lie people under 21 in they're not allowed to drink alcohol for the record but traditionally we'll

let them in on off nights and off times but put a door person on to card everyone at a certain time when it gets busy. >> how long have you owned the entertainment center. >> my first bar was in 2008, in september we owned he 10 and bought and sold a few we're down to 5 in san francisco. >> okay. i see concentrating in the mission. >> we specialize in neighborhoods bars and taverns and restaurants we try to serve the immediate community not our some kind of a designation people travel so we've been kind of opportunistic we owned places in union street and divisadero

and policies and russian hill in the mission. >> okay. thank you. >> colleagues any other questions for him seeing none, any members of the public wants to testify on this item seeing oh, state your name. >> my name is audrey joseph i'm the retiring commissioner for for the seat ben bleiman is going for and i was the last remaining founding commissioners of the san francisco entertainment commission and to me the person that replaces me has to have two distinct qualifications one in operations and procedures where you really know how a business should operate and operating safely and is anly and to know sound sound is a huge issue at the entertainment commission to know

sound not that you can't do it but offer some restrictions that will help you have sound and yet not possibly disturb the neighbors like what you do with our base or high-end in my research the ben bleiman his knowledge is knows how to handle staff and customers and keep the venues clean and up to code and a unique knowledge of sound those are important for me the other thing that is important is advocacy so advocacy for the industry as an industry rep that is your job and the entertainment commission is a 7 member body is includes neighborhood representatives public health urban planning the police and the industry and so it is important that he be able to advocate so for the industry he

is the chairman of cpmc and industry organization and the founding mechanic of the bar alliance i think that he will be a great advocate for his industry thank you very much. >> thank you so much any public comment on this item? would like to comment seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues any additional comments or questions seeing none, i need to make a motion and an amendment since no other seeing no other names on the roster, amend this on lines 8 and 9 to qualify that appointments was received by the clerk and lines 3 and 14 we approved the mayors appointment of ben bleiman to the entertainment commission and further recommend if possible we

i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> chair i would hike to log my vote no recommendation. >> wale call roll call vote to send this item forward as amended supervisor fewer no recommendation. >> no supervisor yee no recommendation okay seeing and - i'm sorry mr. chair on the motion to send this forward without recommendations or clarification with a positive recommendation. >> excuse me - >> the initial motion to i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> we're going to call roll so i guess that will be no. >> okay supervisor fewer and supervisor yee have responded no supervisor safai. >> yes. >> i two nos and supervisor fewer and supervisor yee in december sent to. >> colleagues, can i have a new motion.

>> yes. i make a motion to i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> with no representation. >> to send without supervisor fewer yes. >> supervisor yee i supervisor safai no we have two i's with one no supervisor safai that item passes. >> mr. clerk back to item number one please. item number one has been called mr. chair and we've taken public comment on this item okay so colleagues, can we have a motion to excuse supervisor fewer. >> i'll move that thank you so commissioner fewer your commissioner crews schmoozed *-

we've closed public comment so. >> i'll make a motion to pass with a positive recommendation to the full board. >> without objection supervisor fewer can b.a. contact in the room; is that correct. >> congratulations commissioner murphy call item 3. >> excuse me - mr. chair would you like to call items 3 to 6. >> yes. >> items 3 through 6 are motions approving or rejecting the mayors nominees for aaron hyland diane matsuda and jonathan pearlman to the historic preservation. >> thank you clockwork the

mayors appointment to the mayors historic preservation commission welcome commissioners any in the room today okay. great. >> would you, please speak on your qualifications one at a time start with aaron hyland great. >> thank you, supervisors supervisor safai and good afternoon supervisor fewer and supervisor yee i'm pleased to be here and especially honored to have the mayor's frustrate and support i'm an architect and have been in san francisco for 25 years in the castro with my partner of 17 years and spent my career making significant buildings and sites relative. the future historic places are memories their anchors to the neighborhoods and community and they frame and define our sense of place for me preservation is not about

freezing plaza of time but identifying and celebrating what makes the places approximately at the same time have creative solution for change and temporary uses it is not about keeping everything but keeping what is important my time on the hpc has been regarding we expected as an architect on the architectural review committee and representative of the hpc along with my fellow commissioners jefferson city for the waterfront plan more significantly i've enjoyed the work with the cultural hemorrhaging that commissioner mazzucco eye and i we're inspired by the policies for san francisco living history strategies for conserving culture assets and about that at

the same time the san francisco legacy businesses was created in supervisor campos leadership the following november prop j passed with the establishment of historic preservation fund it is the first city in the country to do this past year one and 59 businesses were nominated and heard by the historic preservation commission and 51 received funding we've learned a lot in the past year and look forward to improving the process and capturing those stories if in more meaningful way i can continue with the other accomplishments and things we've undertaken you but want to respect our time i look forward to continuing this journey and honored to serve i thank you, again. and hope to have your support on this i'm available to answer any questions

>> colleagues any questions for aaron hyland. >> seeing none, if we can call up the jonathan pearlman. >> good afternoon, supervisors. >> thank you for your consideration you're consideration of my remeantime to the historic preservation commission it is shocking that 4 years have passed i stood in front of the rules committee i know that a few years ago there was some in the preservation community was weary about my becoming a member i hope i've demonstrating my unwavering commitment preservation is not a sign what to keep and let go of is a tricky dance and with the change the social pressures and the sheer volume of buildings that disascertainment is important my participation as a member of the

historic preservation commission in the ongoing discussions has been regarding i believe my small contribution is valuable in preserving san francisco we know of history is only revealed by the those who create it but participate to see how in to we don't rely on the buildings to define the history but supergreen in between the stories to preserve a memory as a grounding for to prepare all of us for the future i come from a building background i'm an architect and a historian i was trained on buildings who was the architect and what is the style and place of history but obviously there is so much more to the history why was that building built did it represent a culture or a backdrop all of the attributes are up for

consideration as our work perhaps the most important participation has been hearing the personal and inanimate stories and the preservation business owners and patrons come to the hpc to tell their stories are how or what we do or the place they shop and eat their families and community many of the stories have brought me to tears about the expires and american dreamers that shape san francisco our great buildings with the concrete i am of our city those people and their businesses are fabric of the city on the building side i think my most important contribution is as mechanic of architectural review committee along with aaron hyland designing the buildings to fit with the urban fabric in this date process with the potholes

addressed as opposed to to a doctor or last year we're remind of the planners and appreciate by bringing the projects at an early stage of design we can offer advise on ways that a new building what better we've into the pattern, of course, the city didn't stand still having a group like the arc and that's critical to shaping the future of our city in my professional life i'm proud of having completed the renovation of the bank over on market and jones street and having the honor to be a she said of that process currently i'm in - i'm working on the alexander theatre to bring that

back to a 14 or 15 quiet time the theatre building will be turning pools and classes and evening community event that will preserve the exterior of the building as well as the interior having begun in 2004 for the evaluations with the residential building in the back on 18th street avenue currently under construction i'm hoping to see this completion sometime in my lifetime one last thing i'll mention the comradery i feel with my commissioners and the planning preservation staff there's been a gray sense of respect for each other's point of view and a commitment of all of us to do the right thing to get the whole of the city turning i hope to continue to be part of the tour

as a member of the historic preservation commission thank you for your time and consideration. >> thank you colleagues any questions. >> supervisor yee. >> well, maybe is there someone from the commission staff? no? can you answer this question i'll ask - in regards to the meetings for the last year have you made most of them >> my record i think in 4 years i think i've missed two two or 3 at the most but get to every meeting. >> and jonathan pearlman oh, aaron hyland can you come up and answer that question and the next few speakers the same questions. >> aaron hyland i think i may

have missed two or three meeting. >> any other questions for jonathan pearlman thank you for coming back and any other questions seeing none, we can have ellen johnck. >> thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is ellen johnck a 50-year resident of san francisco i've been honored to sit in the preservation position professional position for the last 4 years it's been a rewarding and transitionally stimulating position to be in my credentials for this position are you. a registered professional archeologist and rp a though i have a business

license in san francisco and consulting practice and my business name is ellen johnck comma rp a a registered archeologist a registry where the qualifications are you must be authorized by the secretary of interior to practice archaeology and be responsible for reviewing changes to the historical buildings and landscape a host of components in our world and in our society

and so my consulting practice expanded beyond myville practice to include archaeology that includes being hired by folks that are in the business of either altering buildings or improving buildings or culture landscape i'm involved in documenting the sites around the community and up and down the line and with our heritage and tribal cultural laws that involves a lot of responsibility for compliance with the california california environmental quality act and several other laws an commissioner moore a university of california, san francisco and teach a course on landscape that's my speciality the business of being a commissioner is not just a guardian of heritage in san francisco recognizing that change has to

happen but change is going to happen make sure that our heritage and history is carried forward with integrity with the chances we make as i say to conclude i welcome our support and being reappointed to the historic

preservation commission i grew up in the outer richmond and educated from lafayette to presidio to george washington high school and i have a law degree but in intensive status

and my credentials for the preservation started when i was working for the state of california and ran a grant program to ask the california community to create programs to equate people about the japanese-american experience before and during world war ii i was appointed to be the chief executive officer for the california culture and historical endowment we promoted and recognized underrepresented and unrecognized communities i feel after that i missed san francisco so that i came back 8 years ago and worked for a small nonprofit organization to help foster youth current you foster youth and homeless youth and at the same

time was appointed to the city and county hpc my involvement with is i have primarily been in japantown living there foreclose to 20 years pretty involved in activities that exist there but feel my work on the historic preservation commission has been with the culture heritage where commissioner honda and we're proud to be vocal supporters of program we hope to continue to

promote over the last this -

i've been on the commission for two terms i think i missed one to two meetings per year and last year, i did miss two meetings in november because i went on a pilgrim. >> colleagues any questions for diane matsuda. >> we'll move to see if my public comment that wants to comment on any of the items please line up to the left. >> good afternoon ray hart for san francisco open government. i reviewed all the posted on the board of supervisors websites relating potential appointees i also did further research to look at the credentials and find them to be well qualified to serve on the historic preservation commission it is one in my opinion of the most important commissioners concussions 2 to 3 the city short avenue tragic incident library the 1906 san francisco earthquake he history didn't disappear at one scope in - in my 19 years watched the cities er varies neighborhood go into things not recognition i live in hawaii for 25 years before coming here and watched the island of hawaii change that when people ask me when you go to hawaii i tell them don't go do away hocking huh-uh if you want to see that i suggest you go to the big island got an idea of hawaii it beyond to its territorial status and back in history so guarding the neighborhoods of insuring that changes that are

made are done with a dictatecy

that allows buildings and institutions that have been

pilars of the society can remain intact is an important and critical job i believe all the candidates make that effort. >> okay. next person. >> good afternoon, commissioners we're the city's leading advocacy and education - as have an articulate and thoughtful group of commissioners seeking reand in expertise on the commission i've witnessed over several years that is apparent and their level of engagement and thoughtfulness in deliberations in the leadership and support san francisco is leading the nation in developing new policies to recognize and support the city leasing e legacy businesses and currently significant resources on behalf of the heritage i'm happy to support each of higher appointments without reservation thank you. >> thank you. any other members of the public seeing none, public comment is closed. >> any additional comments colleagues supervisor yee. >> first of all, i want to thank all 4 candidates for replying spoken to several of them before i think they're well qualified people i want to let the public know that i asked a question about attendance as simple when i was serving on the rules committee several years or years it took awhile we realized that many people serving on commissions and . >> it is a basic question and i'll ask it is important for me to know you're going to the meetings i fully support all 4. >> thank you supervisor fewer yes, thank you chair i wanted to say that i - i met mr. pearlman but want to agree with some of the speakers said this is an important commission i feel like this commission the guardian of our city and san francisco heritage and where we go and

that we don't forget i our history is here but also that institutions that house many are institutions i was fortunate to be raised as san franciscan we'll use sort of worship in san francisco an important city not only does the california and san franciscans but to the united states and people that come here see the history we have and what a grand history we've had so thank you very much for serving on the committee and the commission i am in agreement with i building that all appointments are good appointment to the commission thank you. >> and doesn't the to the commission i'd like to echo some

of the things that my colleagues have said that so many - what makes a city great is often it's architecture the value of city and how it treats the architecture in terms of the culture assets and history i agree that is think important commission and very, very happy about your dedication all 4 of you and what you provided to san francisco so we appreciate - colleagues can you entertain a motion or make a motion. >> go ahead. >> supervisor yee. >> i approve all four

candidates. >> second. >> i'd like to amend items 4 to 6 to approve the mayor's appointments to the historic preservation commission a friendly amendment to supervisor yee. >> park merced. >> seeing no objections those items are approved i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> autopsy mr. clerk next item. >> 7 to consider appointing one member to the 6 year term ending 2023 to the ethnic commissions. >> as the clerk said two applicants for the ethics commission first quentin kopp.

>> thank you, mr. chair and supervisor yee i do apply for reappointment to the ethics commission having been reappointed to this last year and taking the oath september 6th in these very chambers and other aspects of my life i suppose i should add been a san franciscan since discharged from the united states air force after the korean war i thinking about my activities as a legislature particularly relevant to the duties members

of the ethics commission and i began in 1972 as a member of the board of supervisors with a charter amendment that created for the first one a collection of interest provision in the charter of 1932 as amended. >> i was reminded by larry bush introduced the first bill to- in san francisco city elections there have been one precedent for it and in the city of san diego bill resulted agency a matter of comparison and spending in 1975

supervisorial campaigns on a citywide basis of $46,000 and one and $208,000 for mayor - throughout the state and the united states in the state senate at the suggestion and with the yes, ma'am it's of publisher of the then san francisco bay guardian bruce the california newspaper

publishers association and society of journalist i introduced a large bill that had the effect of being the first change and revision of the then brown open act that was impacted in 1953 my co-author in the assembly was the honorable john l berkman of that bill which had opposition much opposition and was passed by both houses and then signed by governor pete willingly and introduced a bill which revised the public records act of the state of california in the government code in the state of

california and that endeavor resulted in an engagement after a signature by the then governor i've devoted myself to the suggestion which are within the responsibility of the san francisco ethics commission throughout my elected public office career as indicated i served as a trial court judge for approximately 10 years, i'm a reinstated member of the state bar of california after having been in active with 10 years as a superior court judge i have been impressed by progress of the ethics commission which was the subject in 2014 of a

critical civil grand jury report i'm pleased by the fact that the backlog of unacted upon complaints has decreased by at least 50 percent in the 5 months i have participated in meetings of the ethics commission your information there was a numerous backlog much of which was attributableal to requests of district attorney for the some respect for the zoo to suspected the investigation of complaint and those requests were honored by the prior administration of the ethics commission resulting in complaints for 3 years and two

years at least 18 months old never acted upon i'm pleased that we adopted and in a meeting last month, a policy that henceforth, after 90 days of spuntd an investigation at the request of the district attorney and the da we resume our investigation and conclude action on others matter whether this is dismissal or action involving the penalties of one sort of or another i reapply or applied for reappointment not just to provide the diversity of this to the commission but because as

long as i'm able and not only mentally and file number i consider it my civic responsibility and i appreciate very much the comment made last friday by supervisor yee and the chinatown chinese new year lunch i look forward to serving a fixed term with ethics commission and colleagues we'll call up the next person and if we have questions we'll take questions after that >> hi, thank you so much for the opportunity to speak before you about my interests in strengthening and serving the

people of san francisco on the ethics commission as a commissioner, i will uphold san francisco commitments with the financing system and look at each matters and without prejudice my 20 years of experience in business in nonprofit management requires the leadership ability to hold multiple points of view at the same time i had to consider the long term and short time mrpgs with the urban intended consequences i spent 12 years as a ceo with an industrial company in southern california turning around the organization in a local market and lucrative sale to an employer i have 15 hundred customers and 13 trucks on the road and worked with aclu and the tooermz i have those challenged to get the

information to emphasize and prioritize quickly i gain invaluable tools making sound decisions i was selected to partner in a groundbreaking environmental pilot project for industry best practices i negotiated a successful sale to the air march securing they'll hire 85 percent of my clez employees they - i couldn't leave the staff without an option my financial best interest to choose the higher offer but not at the experience of my employees i choose to work with my employees and it was the right thing to do in addition i spent 15 years in nonprofit management advocating for women in a hospital and as a executive

director of an i'd process through my feet i gained skills with critical issues with no obvious right answer that prepared me for the complicated of ethics commission my passion for government and ethics reform where for i served on the directors common causes and non-partisan and grassroots organizations that were to strengthen the public participation and insure that public officials and institutions are accountable and responsible to our city any time has given me ground i know that will say invaluable on the commission i'll spend san francisco ethics laws to make sure they're effective with my years of experience in business

and nonprofit organizations and environmental sustainability and policy my goal to bring an ethical approach insuring that empower democracy and social justice will continue to thrive in the city of san francisco i've been proud to call san francisco my home for the past seven years and wanted to leave here since 7-year-old i served on boards and past president of the women businesses and also participated in leadership san francisco to conclude the future of the city depended on good people step forward to run for office our public campaign system protects our citizens and insures the opportunity i'm devote to the principles of transparency and accountability i can be impartial and fair and

thorough owe thoughtful and a well educated woman have 10 years with democracy issues on the board of common cause and honored to have the opportunity to give back to the city by present those issues as a commissioner thank you for your consideration. >> thank you coordinate can you return to the commission and when our members of the committee have questions any questions for quentin kopp. >> one quick question so how do you feel about public financing. >> how do i feel.

>> what is your feel. >> i feel that public first one is adopted by any jurisdiction that is illegally building to do so as los angeles and the city of richmond and san jose and public financing should be enforced like any other law i believe many in the rule law that surpasses any considerations as a judge i believe in the rule of law and follow the law why i agree with the law or not and i'll give you an example during the time i was in the senate the penal code provided that any theft over the amount of 200 and $50 was grand theft a

felony not petty theft that is a misdemeanor that statute had been passes some 35 year previously then the supreme court justice brought it to my attention he introduced a bill to bring the amount to the amount of the inflation over the ensue years the bill was, however, unsuccessful that part of penal code has since been amended even though i had to enforce that law that made any theft of $250 or more a felony i didn't believe that it should be 200 and $50 i, however, took an oath

to not only obey but to carry out the laws of the state of california and i did the same thing as a itself commissioner december 6th as long as any part of sections which comprise the responsibilities of the ethics commission of the law i followed the law i do not i do not try to subvert the law in an dishonorable or other way. >> thank you. >> colleagues any other questions for quentin kopp. >> seeing none, oh, wait supervisor yee. >> in regards to the meetings i assume that was a short-term

you can't go to any other meeting. >> the commission meetings. >> i since i've been on it for 4 months or 5 months have you missed any meetings. >> what's our attendance record. >> 100 percent. >> great thank you quentin kopp. >> i don't believe there is any other questions. >> colleagues any questions for ms. thurman. >> i know this is probably a different question for you since you're not on the commission but i asked the same question that wanted to go beyond the

commission whether or not they've actually attend any of the commission meetings one way to show their interest. >> no, i haven't attended any meetings i've looked at the minutes and meetings on line. >> thank you colleagues any other questions for ms. thurman. >> thank you, ms. thurman. >> my any public comment that want to comment please stand up to the left i'll also will call some names in case the folks are still present please state your name. >> my name is ace on the case i'm so grateful and honored to be here i know that will surprise a lot of people personally with the credentials where the what can a you call it

city by the bay any advice to the young lady our credentials seem very credential wise but seems you need to be a business consultant because man, i don't know if you know the city by the bay the most corrupt city in the united states and if you don't know about the meetings or anything i don't know who sent you anything but ma'am, this is city hall which i call i call it silly hall. my name is ace and i'm on the case. i'm here supporting former senator supervisors judge that's ready to put san francisco on the right track and -- excuse-me. supervisors welcome to city hall most ever you this is your first term listen this man goes back i'm not here to express you but to it is black history month i'm a black man 3

generations i truly support judge former supervisor and all of that to be part - i went to the meeting for the first time in a long time went to the ethics commission a long time and they didn't do nothing and they didn't do nothing i see the way they're doing it seems like the issue is this is the man that you need to stand my name is ace and i'm on the case. and i'm hoping and praying that you - you know, i ain't new this is the judge that we need him on the first day i was talking about challenging to find out what was going on in the mayor's office this is willie brown or nobody so i strongly support thank you. >> thank you just 0 want to remind the members of the public to please address their comments

directly to this committee and not to members of the public. >> eileen district 4 resident here in support of quentin kopp to the ethics commission just coping has a long rich criteria to public service and on is ethics commission he is also brought a wealth of experience to the commission i'll urge the committee to move his reappointment forward with represents i'll urge the committee to move this forward today thank you. >> next person please. good afternoon. i'm nancy i'm proud to support the nominees of quentin kopp for the vacancies on the ethics commission we're extremely lucky to have quentin kopp to over the years of experience with wisdom to foster

good government have not ethics commission the other candidate didn't measure up to the quentin kopp experience or demonstrated the ability to demonstrate the cases present to the commission specifically ms. thurman not tenant any meetings but my research says she's only spoken here ones at city hall on the day of september all in favor, signify by i since she was on the committee to the status of women to talk about welcome business owners only one time in the last 5 years found her way to testify about something important not been shown to written a letter to a city agency stating the position on nothing that is not appropriate to have a november vice sit in judgment of people that may have

violated the ethic i agree with her perhaps more useful to oh, her services to the mayor to appoint her on the commission on the status of women for backgrounds not compliment this commission for ethics but certainly compliments her status of women as to diversity i wish to point out the ethics commission has two qualified women he look forward to adding more women when their qualifications mirror the postponement thank you for considering my comments and recommend it that you move quentin kopp to return to the board of the ethics commission thank you very much. >> thank you next person please. good afternoon committee i'm from the ethics member and former grand injury i'm here to

offer my support for quentin kopp phenomenon number one ethics commission san francisco has been and still is to a droeg a city polluted with dark money and paid to play politics that undermine the public confidence in the government gratefully san francisco ethics commission is in a reset pattern operating with more robust and greater integrity that is given rise to improved public trust each the commiserates bring a skill set and quentin kopp past experience serving on municipal and july levels offers insights into ethics laws are more effectively utilized quentin kopp has proven he is essential for advancing stronger transparent and pay to play political positions and

implementing the measures he's the factor in the public right of approval for recent measures that strive for less lobbying practices i'd like to briefing address common causes of opposition to quentin kopps reappoint it appears this is in a lawsuit challenging a measure sponsored by common cause let's be clear quentin kopps opposition to this measure is not based on an objection to public finance but rather commissioner quentin kopp that an amendment of this nature should go back to the voters given the fact that the original measure neatest approval by the voters on the issue of public campaign finance in san francisco or my other city as quentin kopp has already stated he supports the rule of law an effort to link quentin kopp

participates in the lawsuit position as a ethics commission commissioner is extremely misleading by no means is he attempting to increase maintain the public finance i strongly urge the reappointment of quentin kopp and ask this committee to recommend quentin kopp to the full board of supervisors thank you. >> next person please. supervisors ray hart for san francisco open government. i'm here today to state i'm emphatically oppose quentin kopp as part of ethics commission last time the testifying voted to recommend that quentin kopp find him in violation of the shocking for a commitment at the ethics commission meeting as quentin kopp is an attorney and former member of judicious he has familiarity with the

basic comment of forfeiture despite his - he can impose his belief to restrict the bodies on which he serves in the short time he has acted like he's in a court room i may not agree with what a man says but defend to to death what he says not quentin kopp he is not qualified to serve i'll occasionally encounter opinions and expressed in words he didn't agree if you can't stand the heat get out of kitchen quentin kopp will not voluntarily remove himself in the kitchen as current commissioner, i building this committee should recommended to the full board someone who will

acknowledge and accept the rights of citizens of san francisco to make a free and upcoming restricted public comment we don't need someone serving on the ethics commission who has shown insults to be a mini trump. >> next person please. >> good afternoon, supervisors thanks for the opportunity to speak my name is david the executive director of the first amendment coalition just coping is a long time member of the board of directors and like to talk about our organization it is relevant to quentin kopp that are irrelevant to the example of the ethics commission the first amendment certification coalition a nonprofit in san raphel around thirty years and bring cases on behalf of the examination and

protection of right of public access for public meetings and public records we operate a legal hotline free to the users and the hotline provides expert first amendment legal advice to anyone that has questions about how to get access to public records and access to meeting we put on a campaign of public advocacy and education we put on forums around the state relating to issues that have first amendment relevant and gave me in oversight and appropriate get involved in legislation for northern california issues on free speech, free press and government transparency judge coping has been on the board for 3 plus years and been invaluable asset to the first amendment coalition and commission

long experience with the legislative and long captioners as a judge and in public services has been a crucial importance to any organization to do what that side those qualifications make him for qualified than my candidate i can image i strongly urge you to recommend his reappointment thank you. >> next person please. good afternoon, supervisors my name is peter i'm the vice chair of the ethics commission ass i that will be helpful to be chair in the next month or so the ethics commission within the last few years has again gone a transformation i came on the ethics commission in 2014 appointed by city attorney dennis herrera you look at the history of ethics commission for

15 years before or at least 10 years before it was a commission that had done virtually nothing as the executive director who was totally incompetent and engaged in all sorts of things mainly to keep files on his desk within the last couple of years we've be able to turn that around are the appointment from los angeles and go long time head of the ethics commission in regards to a couple of things we've done we've got proposition t and prop m on the ballot what the ethics commission can do and has not been done in years people of san francisco approved those in one sense by 87 percent quentin kopp is an exemplar individual in terms of one that has qualifications to look at the i believeal situation

situation of a political entity like san francisco and know exactly what is a one not wrong and what should or shouldn't done i've known him for 50 years in san francisco has to do with with the political life since he's been on the commission he was given a tremendous emphasis to a whole range the ethical situations that the people of san francisco need and are entitled to i respectfully ask you to repoint out him. >> thank you commissioner hayon. >> good afternoon and thank you. i'm with common cause where precedence are plaid it is important that san francisco continue to be an example for the country of what public

service should look like common cause supported this for decades from the proposition that created the ethics commission and the city public campaign financing program to last year promotion t from that perspective i'd like to share some things for the appointee to the ifkts we think an appointee should understand the purpose. >> support the ethics commission and effect commissioner should be open and fair-minded and consider enforcement free from bias their on agenda the political integrity for both voter confidence and encouraging the participation a commissioner should respect the duty their to serve as a constant of the everyday san franciscan and ethics commissioner should say the responsible and encourage the board of supervisors to carefully

consider his reappointment to allow more time for the applicants or additional applicant to the office of the commission before it goes to vote the board should feel confident the commissioner will advance the duties of ethics commission. >> thank you next person please. good afternoon. my name is linda and i am speaking in support of kathleen thurman i've come to know her in our work in advocacy for girls in the city and county of san francisco with the alliance for girls i can speak to her integrity which is unparalleled she's someone who is completely transparent, she's inclusive in here leadership and

advocacy for girls in the city of san francisco and the bay area at large i believe her experience in both the private sector and on nonprofit arena particularly with her board membership with girls inc. she's demonstrated her thoughtful and experience consideration for her fiduciary responsibilities involved with being on the board and as she mentions in her testimony in running her own business and in her leadership capacity with the national association of women business owners from my work with her in the alliance for girls i think she'll be a tremendous asset on the ethics

commission thank you. >> thank you very much. next person please. >> good afternoon my name is legit a 28 year resident of san francisco a homeowner in the western edition and and advocate i've not spoken at the city hall note that of record it is interesting to me i'm here in support of kathleen thurman and her opportunity to be appointed to the commission i met k5erg9 less than for the alliance for the girls she was an advisor the persuaded me to get involved and to consider a position of scale he reach many girls in the san francisco bay area and being polled nationally to kate hartley less than with her work through the navaho speaking to the sacramento

legislative does have experience not brought to light here in advocating a state and local level and national level as i've gotten to know here it struck me her willingness to go with the pain and most problems exist demonstrated by her work with battered woman 25 years and her leadership in driving the auditorium where my favorite story she doesn't bring up was she arrived this was a male dominated business with posts throughout the company she noted to go to them and advocate for change in a way without counter balancing the company it was a challenging role for any woman her - guaranteed her and us she

works clovg with organizations and elevating the solutions and bringing forgot treats and builds trust and brings forth framework and fairness - >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> members of committee i'm larry bush the co-found of friends of ethics i wrote an article for the creation of ethics commission which was taken up by supervisor kelly asked to sit in with his office to charter the amendment in 1995 i called for spending caps for supervisors and that passed unanimouslyly with the support of then quentin

kopp and he also was the treasurer for proposition t that passed with 87 percent of the vote a member of civil grand jury on ethics and i'm familiar with the requirements of the ethics commission i'm fully in support of quentin kopp and the 20 years that the ethics commission was created evident the first person appointed to the commission that held a er run for political office he's got the unique experience of recognizing what happens in campaigns and what we don't see in campaigns an important sight for the commission an excellent commissioner moved on issues with the federal government not taking a strong position on iktsdz or transparency so much so that a local bay area lawyer who served on the federal

ethics commission just reassigned saying the institution couldn't get things done in san francisco because of our ability to put things on the ballot we are positions to lead in ways that no other ethics commission in the country can do in terms of public finance supervisor quentin kopp prop 73 had 3 element the other part it casts on attractions that was topped out by the court but, but important i respectfully ask you to urge to support quentin kopp. >> thank you next person please. good afternoon, supervisors joe kelly is in my name and i'm here in support of judge

quentin kopp reappointment i sent an e-mail to all last week that outlined my support of judge quentin kopp i hopefully, will not repeat those thoughts in gentrification i guess i would offer my thoughts that the ethics commission although public finance is a component of it from you've attended the san francisco ethics commission meeting you know that there is so much more going on in city government than that and then you know not to - this is one of the commission positions that being we wouldn't say an ininsider but knows the working of city government and helpful

so to you know i'll leave it at that if you're coming in that the ethics commission in san francisco without ever even attending a meeting there's a huge learning curve and for that i'd like just i'll leave it at that i don't know if i mentioned i was a member of the grand injure but one on the ethics commission so again, i really hope you'll move today to reappoint judge quentin kopp thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> good afternoon. thank you for the opportunity for to make a couple of comments i'm elaine i'm a member of friends

of ethics my membership is recent i was a poor person for the grand jury that did that as others are referred to during commissioner quentin kopp tenure and ethics commission that's been fascist to see how he brings his rich experience to the job and to the insight full questions he puts in front of the people that come before the ethics commission including the staff reports and that kind of thing he wants to understand everything that is going on before he makes a decision i think that it is also evident he makes companions on the minutes not a lot of people that

read the minutes carefully you know he's a detailed person and wants to get everything right as indicated by previous speakers the ifkts has turned a corner compared to the report the 13 and 14 jury and that what commissioner quentin kopp brings to the party is a basically, he's going to keep the momentum moving forward and with that thank you for the opportunity to speak and wholeheartedly support his reappointment to the ethics commission. >> thank you next person please. >> i'm bruce and i lived with my family at 2262, 14th avenue in supervisor norman yee district since 1963 and the co-founder with my wife

co-publisher and editor for almost 50 years i say that because i've known quentin kopp all those years and almost every year we would bring him into the garden and quiz him own this and that he's actively running forest we were a tax and spend paper he was spend less and - we believed in clean government and nobody pushed him around and figured out what happens at city hall we had our arguments because we were on different political labeling but i said before the same hearing a few months ago he's the only person i know in my 50 years of covering san

francisco politics candidates and issues the only person i'll recommend on a qualified business to the ethics commission the only one i say that today after he's done a good job in the few months provided focus and energy and creativity at a time that the ethics commission needed it so i could go on but i think that quentin kopp is person and i hope that you endorse him thanks very much. >> thank you, sir. >> next person please. >> my name is richard i don't have much to say except that i just heard that he was in the air force and during that time i also was in the korean war and i was in the front line

and people asked me you know my size and my strength they have supplies - but i have so much to thank for the air force you, you know in back of us the big battle ships 16 inch guns to for us to just tell them where to shoot and we have the airports jets at a point to we can direct them where they lay the napoleon's and i'm still alive we did veterans are 4 thousand appreciate quentin kopps leadership

he helped many of the homeless veterans find a home and job he also a stronger leader to maintain the rotc in the city they have an early knowledge of training leaderships and many of jrotc members are our generalize and officers i forgot one more item. >> i want to say one more thing a human rights leadership about three years ago - we have lots of flower shop and -

>> thank you sir, thank you. >> next person please. good afternoon. i'm helen the california common cause regretfully we must oppose the appointment of quentin kopp the people of san francisco desire a commissioner that supports side ethics commission unfortunately quentin kopps records documents he did not he opposed prop k that created the ethics commission he authored a proposition that will have prohibited public campaign financing in san francisco he was a plaintiff and authorized public financing program which the ethics commission administers and even after appointed to the

ethics commission quentin kopp continued to oppose those ethics reforms 3 days after his appointment he went to governor jerry brown urging the bill that the ethics commission support that on public campaign promises and quentin kopp has personally joined a lawsuit to overturn this bill public financing is and heart and the core duty of ethics commission it gives candidates from fauldz to support the diversity a chance to run for offices without relying on donors and ivenths nee

comment. >> we may not like but consistent with the law that's what we had to do then and quentin kopp is doing has been doing it is worth understanding that finding the distinction so the concerns don't get distorted i also want to mention our earlier offers and informal suggestions to keep the appointment open to keep people realize before you do that look at the timeline there is some

timelines for holding over an appointment for a fixed time and that person could be begun once you go past the timeline not a vacancy on a commission 3 deals with regulations so i'm saying be careful about changing the timeline on this i urge action now i support quentin kopp unreservesly i don't agree but i respect him thank you. >> thank you, sir any public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues any more comments >> supervisor yee. >> once again thank you to the public for coming out on both sides of this and supporting

each candidate. >> this is a tough decision when we have more candidates than slots and persons here with unique qualifications in their resume judge quentin kopp has the reputation of being very, very, very opinionated but the reputation that stays within the boundary of law that is important for me to hear regardless of where we're in total agreement with public finance situations that repetition that you bring in that is really important to me i know that with the experience not only as an elected official but as a judge

to come in with that perspective and no one else on the commission has that is unique that what balance off the total condition itself and because of that i would like to recommend that we reappoint judge quentin kopp to the commission. >> thank you supervisor fewer any additional questions or comments. >> none thank you. >> i'm before we entertain a motion want to make some comments i had the opportunity to sit down with both candidates i say i think we're in a situation that as supervisor yee said we have two really qualified people i'm not sure they're qualified for the same commission and i think that one of the intention that for this particular commission that is really important qualification is truly understanding the in

and outs of government not solely about public finance i can talk about that for a second he live in a moment i think you'll three of us sitting on the body are in any way because of public financing that affected our campaign but the aspect of the work firemen's in terms of the questions and the nature the understanding of the in and outs of government i think that is a really important qualification i think the commissioner brings that to the table whether or not people agree or disagree i think that ms. thurman i was delighted to meet with her and understand here qualifications and she brings quality to the table i'll ask her to apply for additional

commission opportunities based on her interest in work that she's done in the city in terms of public finance it is really important you can't under state unless you've gone through the process i'll speak there my own position having access to public fund takes a burden off the candidates in terms of how you put your campaign together you can reduce that burden by having assess to the public fund when campaigns are instenos e tense towards the end and plan properly you can have a access to that money that reduces the burden in terms of your time constraint so i'll say regardless of whatever the position i've heard you loud and clear quentin kopp you'll uphold the law no doubt in in my mind from my own perspective is a

tremendously important aspect of the reasons i'm sitting here i'll say i'm in full support of what supervisor yee said and i'll be in support of your recommendations to the full board of supervisors supervisor fewer. >> thank you very much chair yes. i want to say thank you to everyone and the public comment testimony and for submitting your names to participate 2, 3, 4 in important commission i want to say that i think that night time we give the public it is inexcusable to be rude who is testifying before a board and commission i want to reiterate that i think we have a responsibility to the public to encourage public dialogue and night time anyone is rude it is completely inexcusable with that said, i know that judge quentin kopp is qualified for the

position and supporting his reappointment to this board thank you. >> colleagues any additional comments can i entertain a motion. >> go ahead and recommend quentin kopp to be reappointed to the full board. >> seeing no objection this is i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> mr. clerk, call the last item. >> item 8 a hearing excuse me. congratulations quentin kopp on our reappointment a hearing to appoint 7 members for the unexpired term ending 2018 to the urban forestry council there are 7 seats with 8

applicant the applicants are john malcolm hillan a done deal and michael sullivan for seat 6 and corey lindgren and for seat 6 and 7 as is clerk stated 8 applicant for 7 seats to the urban forestry council if there are no any initial comments if there are not any ask the applicants to speak any applicants line up to the left.

>> approximately supervisors my name is andrew sullivan i'm serving often the urban forestry council on seat 2 i'm a landscape arithmetic in san francisco over 20 years of experience for the last 1890 in san francisco my practice and my work is always been focused on environmental sustainability and stewardship and i always had a keen interest in the universe urban forest for the past 6 years serving on the university council and he served as a the

chair the subcommittee of urban forestry council as well so i'll keep it brief if you have any questions i thank you for your opportunity to continue with my service thank you. >> thank you andrew sullivan i'm sorry do i say oh, colleagues - why not to have them all go through and if you have a question. >> same question i asked how is your attendance. >> close to perfect in subcommittee. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors the second sullivan seeking appointment to the urban forestry i'm a resident of woodland avenue in district 5 i

don't work in the urban forestry area but it is been a passion of mine for a long, long time i'm a 25 year volunteer with the friends the urban forestry was iowa's on that board for 12 years and served as board president for a few years the author of a book on the trees of san francisco that was published in 2000 and had a second printing a couple of years ago and maintain a blowing sf trees that is out there and my license plate is sf trees among other things i served on the rec and park commission with a term and one the advantages

i'll be pleased to serve on this commission oh, and that i my attendance record is very, very good idea missed two or three times awhile on the commission. >> good thank you. >> mr. flanagan. >> thank you very much i'll speak for my own self and speak for other members of the come in that couldn't make that first of all, you probably know me i've been worked for the friends of forest for the past 5 years and been on the council for the past 6 years i be i've served as the president for the past 4 years and the first one i did we had a planning session and one of the

main to be on advisor to the board of supervisors and to the mayor on issues for the urban forestry i think we've accomplished that and be able to get qualified people beyond the council so i'm lucky and happy to be work with a dedicated folks who care about the urban forestry issued and i think that i want to underscore what michael sullivan said it as laborer and underscore the word labor we have meetings that go from two or three hours and for us to really spent a lot of time on major issues that are facing the urban forestry and being able to consultant with the supervisors and mayor that is an important thing we do and that's my thing i want to speak on behalf of of the members that couldn't be here they had prior commitments and said they

couldn't miss that that is right that meg lowman was appointed by the mayor she's incredibly, incredibly qualified she's a scientist and i think if you you've gotten her resume i'd like to quiz you on page 28 of her resume it is about thirty pages along an extensive resume of publishing and a world renowned stewart expert and that's serviced us well to have her on our council so i strongly, strongly urge you folks to reappoint here i'll go to john malcolm hillan i think his first name is john but i think on the council for 9 years as a state in urban forestry

issued he's been a very loyal member of the council of great resource i think his attendance is close to perfect since he's been on the council mine is almost perfect i think i've missed 2 in the past of years and john malcolm hillan is a great member of labor tree commission with a history that is helpful as we consider landmark tree issues going forward and the next person i'll speak to say phillip pierce going for the last seat you mention he's very qualified used to work for the friends the urban forestry and going for the community seat on the council he worked for 4 years as president of the urban forest as a committee organizer know all parts of the city and reassigned from the president prop e

running the campaign for prop e that was successful he was deeply connected to all issues of the urban forestry and i think gave us a great perspective on various community and their needs when it comes to urban forest one other candidate i forgot i not spoken for meg and phil, who oh, corey lindgren i brought on dan kida on a couple a couple of years ago that represented pg&e his relocated to inspector every inch of the telephone wires and protect them against trees has a afghan arborist for is boots on the ground for the urban forestry street trees and moving

out of the bay area and his replacement is corey not corey what's his name? kobe i had a meeting with colby and he's taken off daddy's position and committed to being on the council i think he'll be a great candidate >> any questions? >> supervisor yee. >> i actually didn't have a question. >> i'm sorry, i thought you told me you did sorry about that any questions or comments. >> or my public 9 to 5. >> any public comment open this item before we take comments from the board members. >> yes. >> please.

hi nancy again i would like in support of current reappointment of the gentleman who appeared and that are being proposed and one exception to the proposal that mr. flanagan made i oppose colby peterson i think that the prior person has a - i'm not impressed with colby peterson he didn't have my passion or interest in trees this man lives in redwood city i don't understand why he is applying for this he's not gotten any letters of support and not preying me have a letter from a school that has

complaints of is an organization that chopped down a bunch of trees on a hillside and the children are upset and asked repeatedly to have those trees replaced for nature trees or something that will sustain the erosion on the hillside now this is not a man that tells me understands the mission of urban forestry council which is to work with people he didn't work with those folks he can supply you with this letter i don't know the role of mr. petersen had in the grant this is an important issue he should is where objected or - i'd like to hold it seat up seat two or three executor one but have someone appointed not for someone that has the commitment

and passion for the trees. >> any public comment that wish to comment on this item. >> mr. flanagan if you've already spoken. >> i can speak in public comment can't i. >> yes. >> i respectfully disagree with our candidates he has a deep understanding the challenges of managing after urban forestry i like having pg&e on the council that way we can have influence with pencil that has direct impact on one 24 thousand trees he's an arborist i'm disappointed he didn't send my letters of recommendation i'm sorry i had an hour conversation i was not impressed but dan has

endorsed his membership thank you very much. >> any other any public comment want to comment seeing none, public comment is closed. supervisor yee. >> thank you supervisor safai first of all, i'd like to say that i wish they were more diversity in the group being that 3 of you joking but seriously i mean one of the things again, i serve on the rules committee for two years and one of the things i put forward was the composition of anything whether this was balance and i believe that one woman meg - yeah, so there is different ways to cut - >> oh,

there's some other seats besides the 7 i guess my point could be more difference in many ways i suggest for two seat two, that we go ahead and maybe continue that item - i know it is nice is mr. peterson spoke to that but we're the ones that appoint we need - at least i feel there is a question and like to should have made that to the reach out to me that would be helpful people have to understand -

>> supervisor fewer. >> thank you chair so this is a counselor that actually is really important to me i think you know that my father-in-law founded the urban forestry i come i married into family 35 years of actress and my husband continues to prune the street trees so i'm concerned about and ethic in case diversity i think that we have diversity in thought and opinion i actually would agree with supervisor yee that we keep the one position open and do outreach to look for adding more diversities to the council i agree that everyone has an expertise for the appointment to the council but having gender and racial diversity it is

important for san francisco my suggestion i'll say to actually supervisor yee suggestion that leaving that one seat open but follow the recommendations i think myself i'll say that john malcolm hillan and saudi arabian and meg lowman. >> supervisor yee. >> one more comment nothing personal but trying to bring is it - 100 percent we need to give waivers i mean in regards to like can we find anyone in san francisco that's a general question and that's always a challenge for me to know whether

a person that we're going to support with a residential waiver is two questions whether not necessarily in san francisco can do this year qualified or the person is so qualified deserves a waiver i i want to put that out there i notice that meg needs a waiver i will support that waiver only because we need the exit. >> thank you. i'll add to that last point i think that the residents requirement for something particular as our urban tree and forest council that is important to have residents interacting with that on the daily basis ♪ instance you described mr. flanagan to have a california scientist with age understanding of eucalyptus >> what that means in the

context of san francisco right now i think that really important so i support what excuse me - supervisor yee said i'll probably am supportive of leaving the seat open for mr. petersen and urge you to folks work with to go out and find some other qualified candidates it adds to the diversity of this council. >> urge you not to be someone that need to register to the requirement unless they say bring something unique to the table so can members can we entertain a motion. >> would the motion be to move the certain people forward and on the same motion to continue seat number 2. >> okay.

>> and also to make sure we get the residency waiver >> let me do - so i'd like to recommend that we move john john malcolm hillan to be appointed to seat one andrew sullivan to seat 2 and dan flanagan to seat 4 and meg lowman to seat 5 and michael sullivan seat 6 and phillip pierce to seat 7 and to continue seat number 2 and to also 3. >> he did 12, 4 and 3 is open.

>> and also provide a waiver or set the waiver from a residental waiver for meg lowman. >> thank you supervisor yee seeing no objection it is i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> mr. clerk mr. clerk, is there any additional business to come before this body? >> there are no more items the last one with a with a positive recommendation. >> thank you, colleagues we're adjourned

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