on the street we've seen companies we say used to have to accompanying come out and recruit now they're coming to us. >> today, we learned about the office of economic workforce development and it's effort to foster community and make the buyer market street corridor something that be proud of thanks to much for watching and tune in next time for the tuesd 2017, meeting of the san francisco entertainment commission my name is brap the president of the commission before we get start a few housekeeping items please turn off your cell phones and two if you're a member of the public and last week to to an item that is on the agenda or not i will call public comment at various points please

come on or got handed a few speakers if you're here to speak on an item there should be speakers in the front and hand them to the staff and finally thank you to sfgovtv and the media services so for airing this meeting live to the public every time we meet we have 4 commissioners we have quorum commissioner caminong commissioner thomas commissioner lee commissioner courtney. >> commissioner frost will be here at 6 and commissioner perez on the way and a vacant seat that be here in a couple of weeks the first business item is general public comment this is for items that pertain not san francisco entertainment commission but you don't see currently on the agenda any public comment on this item?

it there something you wanted to speak to on the agenda we'll come back. >> this is general public comment oh, why look through them all thank you. >> all right. 4 - people hear restore are here to speak on that item coming up to in the report. >> maybe we can take it then why not take you guys now i don't know if there are an order you guys want to speak to 101 and then we have a and others as you have a timeframe for them. >> two minutes. >> to 3 you 2 and i'm 101 i'm here

without a residential within the entertainment commission district we in front of the this i'm here on behalf of the permit holder hoa to share our concerns about the wellness to recklessly impact our quality of life this is the first time meeting you in personal but march 2013 i filed a complaint of then b box to the entertainment commission that was never addressed and august 2016 i worked with the staff for address the concerns we wrote a letter how the issues public school resolve and august of this year will 6 medias or months we've benefit reasonable and respect fell and patient how she sound-proofed an old building into a world-class

nightclub wife been corporate with jen i can't allowing the staff into the homes to verify the noise and jean e supervisor yee in a stopped communicating we've taken this burden to live with the noise throughout the process zero progress she operate they're loud noise into the morning and sometimes next the next day until noon the issue is not jena but the after hours that is in the middle of the on and on issue in the neighborhood and articles like 29 makes it difficult for the entertainment commission to endorse the sounds like leakage into our homes we're asking that the entertainment commission revoke the after hours permits on them for the mixed use

residential neighborhood and residents so they can get sleep. >> thank you. >> the next person is kelly. >> hi commissioners my name is kelly i'm here on behalf of the building hoa to share my concerns about the mental health wellness i live on the second floor and 101 we've been in contact with the entertainment commission about the noise inside the venue and the intoxicationed crowds that is hard to describe 9 impact of interrupted sleep it is torture and lying down and hearing base music it terrible and woken up during the night and other experience that they're supporting the patrons to block

the south bay lanes and having honking that tends to go on until i leave for work the next day is a well-known risk is physical and e martin luther king mental health if we can stop the noise by that 2:00 a.m. we can get some sleep as i mentioned oftentimes they're not available into the night and asked to call pd at the don't arrive to address that and if they do they don't have a but to address this is frustrating the primary problem is hours of operation it is make in the center of the residential buildings we're concerned from the permit remains that will

effect our health for years we not to the entertainment to continue inform san francisco but we needed to sleep we're here to ask to you rerecognize the after hours permits thank you. >> i live on noting i'm here to share some frustration emotional and depression in finding a resolution that i and my neighbors are combrerments if you all- you want peace and quiet but you're laying in bed you hear the thump through the double-paned windows to give you an example i want to play a short clip-on facebook of what

was happening this past weekend. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> i mean, you get the picture the video - this is accurate because as health kim's neighbors we don't sleep i want to say how we get to bed we sleep with earplugs and turn on wide noisemakers fans and things to over power the sounds what i want to share with you 101 and i moved into the house two years ago we were excited to be part of neighborhoods but they operated in the morning hours it's been an unbearable nuance

to our life i'm asking you to revoke their permit to allow me and my neighbors to enjoy peace and quiet thank you. >> and finally emry i don't know if there are other people planning to speak. >> hi commissioners my name is emry i live on norwalk with the same facing as 101 and others i've been there for smile 13 years and seen a number of parades operators in the space that health on occupies liquor studio z and lot to and b box i feel like i'm forgetting someone the common thread with the venues the physical structure of

that building itself jena is clearly a top club operator that is voted to being professional and getting that right so far we haven't been able to find a sweet spot of health on and our ability to have relative peace and quiet so i eagle everything i'm a big fan 101 and i met at club bay we are devoted nightclub gores we ask you to help us find a mutually

architectural solution that continues to provide employment tax based and fun for everyone. >> thank you. >> all right. is there any additional public comment during this general public comment period. >> all right. seeing none, public comment is closed i think to respond to those unfortunately, we can't act your raising an important question i want to raise a question to the staff how i know this showed up health on on the last inspector report on this one but how have they been behaving and treating the complaints coming in from your perspective. >> can i jump in did you give the timeline. >> yeah. i think see we are

prepared for this public comment so i had shawn do background work so something to chew on can't take action tonight but we encouraged the neighbors to speak to you, your the policy body; right? we've done a lot of work and shawn can speak to that it is not over yet but some direction that would be helpful. >> a question. >> commissioner perez. >> the residents that spoke with i'm sorry got here late what the recording did he say that recording is from health on. >> no, from health something been facebook. >> shawn i don't know if you want to walk us through the timeline or speak to the

responsiveness. >> yeah. get to the mike. >> is it still working. >> sorry we have so make sure that everything is heard and recorded so do you want to go to the speaker mike? good afternoon commissioner intaushgs i want to give a run down the question for the was have they been responsive i think throughout the 3 months or so i have been working on this and action was taken all of the process that i've approached this with all of different ways to regulate and

enforce they have responded to i think jocelyn and i sat down with jena the operator at the health on with the repeated sifthdz and sat down with her and requested angle online as to steps that she'll be taking so far as soundproofing the structure of building there have been steps taken thus far to sound-proof the interior and the exterior on the roof specifically capping skylights and fathoming the existing roof structure and multiple environmentalist by sound techs inside the residents on the rooftops i've out numerous times to establish the

ambient levels - i think they've been responsive to the concerns on i've been e-mailed text message it's been going on for quite a while and i think there is has been progress at this point during my last visit with the operators and sound techs to my left is at the company and sounds like effects this past wednesday, i was able to take the age bins of that neighborhood from the rooftops and compare am i still on -

compare the level that is product inside of health on to show that the level for the sound levels produces a level outside from the property within the city so - >> the level i've placed on the permittee puts them in compliance as of last wednesday. >> okay. >> and you know, i think this is we didn't get those kind of complaints if b box that the venues before what can you attribute to the after hours permit is it i think you said it was a new sound system i think. >> i think based on what i'm hearing in complainants historically and especially specifically at the hearing i

would say there is general sense of the sound level it allowed but more passion or prejudice from the tune the after hours is the issue. >> okay great. >> commissioner lee. >> so when you set the level are they able to lock it off or change it after you disappear or when - >> from what i've been told the level i've set for them they are able to lock it in i think anything they lock in they'll be able to unlock in my experience haven't seen that or heard that or taken measurement that is happening i know they have the capacity of

locking in a level and inhabit but anything they take out they can put in. >> do you stop by randomly and notice any difference when you test it. >> i've been by so frequently is there i don't sense a pattern of a sound level increasing at the night goes on over and over someone assumes i'm locked out for the night i think i don't know, there is a co-relation between the night and it depends on - if i were to make a guess i would say that two you know mentioned 2:30 at a time the

neighborhood itself quieted down at that time there is a lot less activity at the 2 o'clock compared to 1 o'clock i've been to other night life operations i think the majority in the area are closing at two in the pb a it impacts even if the sound is the same i have less emission in the street and seems to be a lot louder. >> the amount bittbienambient >> is a stands it was taken over 2:00 a.m. it is important when i take an am bipt that the nightclub to

make sure it is during a time where street traffic all and bus traffic and things like that i'm able to compare that to an operational timeframe i would say and haven't tested that but say that ambient level will be tend to decrease as the morning ticks on but as of new the ambient levels are the prime time activity whenever we are testing for an ambient level we try to make sure that is on a friday or saturday night after 10:00 p.m. to get a clear game.

>> which totally makes sense i wonder for an after-hour permit specifically we might have a different standard that is more line three or four a.m. sloepz to the 2:00 a.m. don't know if they've used a different ambient level. >> i don't know if i've ever done that is that conceptual but i get what you're saying we've not done that the xremgs between 10 and two is different within 2 and 6:00 a.m. >> it is hard in the middle. >> right. right. >> to gage the level that is uneasy. >> i don't know i'm not 0 suggesting that is easy but it might be a call for a different standard for after hours. >> i think i don't want to god's this is just public

comment i feel like there a couple of actions we can and should take one we should bring in a hearing and have sort of discuss the option around setting different ambient levels or revoking or doing something in between at this time so i'd like to schedule that for the next commission meeting which i believe is the first tuesday in march. >> march 7. >> march 7 okay. great. >> so just to be clear you want to bring up someone applicant to discuss a condition schedule permit. >> correct and there's a standard for revocation are far different we can't have to hearing. >> i'm not asking that - >> we might audio additional conditions that might limit the

hours which might add another round of applause ambient level. >> this is what you're suggesting. >> this is absolutely what i'm suggesting for for the motor vehicles and neighbors i apologize we can't act because the venue is not here themselves but hopefully, you'll attend that meeting if not we have your comments on record so commissioner caminong. >> the four speakers said the owner had stopped xhuven with them before the hearing that will be good to hear about changes they've communicated will happen have been completed at least they're aware of where we can stand at this point.

>> i can encourage that great. >> okay commissioner lee. >> any reading from anyone you've been notified audience initially sound testing took place on the 11 and both and front the club. >> so you have those reading for the area. >> the issue with that particular part of the city that the ambient level on the street an 11 is higher and less sound from this particular venue is escape though the front of the building through the doors most of sound but be able to witness the measures and escape from the roof so the ambient on the street is a higher than from a rooftop is lower so it takes time to establish the proper

level. >> anything in front of the building you said the back. >> you have all the information. >> i do the initial investigation is everywhere else in the city as far as the ambient level from the property and taking measurements outside at the property and we - this is when the investigation took a turn and started to climb on top of revolvers. >> thank you for all the time trying not to spend that much time anywhere so can i actually ask - oh, one more thing. >> i'm good. >> have a seat. >> for the members of the public that want to speak i have a couple of clarify questions are there particularly nights of week or every night that something is going on. >> pretty much every night that is not just on the weekends

is during the week work and sunday or tuesday night and could go to 7:30 or 8 o'clock in the morning. >> so through the full permit hours. >> yes. >> and a type of sound base. >> it is base but also at least from my side it is the people loitering outside throughout the night. >> or just people standing around like yelling and they tend to be route i didn't as well as as i mentioned the traffic gets backed up so there is cars honking as people are getting picked up and that goes on throughout the night starts around two they start servicing

alcohol and through the night. >> we have a way to move forward we'll move on with the agenda item 2 approval of the minutes from both december 6th and february 7th. >> commissioners i don't know if you have any changes of innovate i'll entertain a motion to approve. >> i move to approve minutes. >> february 7th. >> no in my wrong december 6th i'm sorry. >> we can do them both together. >> okay. >> no second for that motion. >> second. >> there is a second sounds like we want to take december 6th or february 7th. >> february 7th is that's okay with me, too. >> clarifying the motion to approve of the minutes from both

december 6, 2016, and february 7, 2017, and a second. >> second. >> any comments from commissioners any public comment on this item? take a vote. >> commissioner perez commissioner caminong commissioner thomas commissioner lee commissioner frost president tan. >> i say minutes pass item 3 i think we were going to skip but the director executive director was out last week nothing to report and item 4 report from the sounds like inspections inspector pauley you want to start. >> indeed good evening confirmations or commissioners, i only had a few comments it's been pretty compete busy but quiet since the first of the year start with inspections i did

inspections this past weekend that he is fusion lounge i've not been by there i did a walk through they had a busy night but security is tight looked fine did a walk through and policies is one of the main places i say is where most of activity is in the areas i'm regularly checking out maids and other places this weekend i did a walk through and talked with security guard a new complaint about monroe this is weird i don't want to get into the details before you basically an issue going on inside the building i talked about with the

project sponsor and the project manager will solve the problem continue the venue and the person inside the building i believe the issue is resolved or the property management is dealing with the entertainment commission issue compliance i've been getting a lot of e-mails about huey on the issue is some nights they're busy their sidewalks with busy and their messy when the police are pro-active in moving the traffic along it helps the situation it shouldn't be all that the police about you it is consistent with venues it is hard to think negative about the venues but they're busy and the police are concerned they're

not hear you're not hearing about, about that you p but nevertheless, nothing imminent they're not here maybe not away

again, i think it is fine but i do so what the police department concerns are i don't want to swipe them away i understand for public safety what the issue is but i think that's fine. >> are you talking about the 10 b officers. >> it is usually around ten am in the area because of all the activity and then 10 b through too so the regular patrol didn't get mixed occupy on the block unless a need for like an emergency or something like that but the 10 bs are moving the uber's along and making sure that people don't conjugate

waited for cars that's the problem with the uber's and the lyft. >> maybe a lesson for lovingly street too. >> perhaps. >> but i think your alluding too active on broadway nothing of concern i know that several years ago there was concern. >> it was different but not the 10 b officers and the d b d was not just forming. >> commissioners other comments or questions for this report move on to inspector burke. >> that particular location we haven't heard much about since it was repermitted maybe year and a half ago so i'll get out there this weekend and hear what i can hear and follow-up with

the complainants and a couple of inspections i wanted to mention that happened over the last couple of weeks a report and complaint that came from the 60 folsom this is a old bill of health body shop place that was probably used - i went by and noticed people sort of step van outside with a lot of equipment in and i've forward the details a picture to the officer and make sure they know about that and the r s four 909 was not here the last hearing we issued an llp a one time permit i checked to make sure they were in compliance with conditions

and the music extend past of time we've given them there was quite a bit of noise on the streets and let me know this is not how the loophole will that will be operating and he understood and got my number maybe a mix-up with the security guards. >> is that the one on larkin. >> the address was wrong. >> they presented themselves so well didn't they. >> they took responsibility for a the openness like final the record. >> the guard card. >> for over 4.

>> and last but not least i mentioned this in my previous report myself the operator a couple of neighbors and tested if you want new details about anything i've mentioned. >> didn't seem like any commissioners any public comment on my of the inspector seeing none, public comment is closed. thank you thank you for all your hard work. >> thank you move on to item number 5 we haven't heard from directly in a formal presentation but tonight you don't why always forgot your full at this time. >> senior analysis for

community and cultural events. >> take that away. >> all right. good evening, commissioners too to be here to my letting joits one of the 7 pro bono consultants that have been been helping me own is evaluation efforts for outside events as a reminder we're working with the mayor's office with the civil innovation they match private sectors experts with public sectors challenges so we were excited to be able to use their expertise to help to figure out a way to improve and support outdoor fence tonight we want to share the scope a high-level idea of what we're doing and you have a long

version of the draft report in your packet and the point of this report is to really help us to lay the foundation for making policy and legislative change in order to foster and promote outdoor events it is an opportunity to use the change to simplify the permit process for example, what we did we interviewed varldz so those were reasons as well as city employees and did benchmarking with other employees and analyzed our cities permitting structures and support systems for after events and from that data gathering we identified 3 challenges that were consistent across the board number one the need for reducing the complexity of the permitting process number it the increasing

the transcript of all the registering and who does what in city government for the applicants but for the who works for the sfgh city government and late lastly to address the outdoor events in the changing landscape of san francisco let's get started this is frost and sustaining the events in san francisco. >> how can we foster events in san francisco i think we've talked about that 0 outdoor events are economic and cultural drivers for the city for the scope of this report we defined outdoor events as public events including

street fairs and music, art, festivals and if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer them fundraiser and the controllers report said that outdoor events contribute over one billion dollars for the fact of the city much the revenue supports bars and hotels and not just dollars signs but cultural assets to major parts of the citys identity as part of the fabric and the legacy events like pride are examples of that and then. >> which event did it exclude. >> we focused on scott recommended events on city streets the purpose of evaluation rec and park for example, they have their own

distinct permitting structure. >> nothing like the summer of love is not something. >> the summer of love for golden gate bridge is not in the scope. >> or like outside. >> but if so this on the street it would. >> okay. thank you. >> sure we were existed to get the help of the bridge consultants to answer the questions and promote boxer and sustained events. >> i'll let joyce take it from here. >> good evening, commissioners and others so to really start off i'll take you through how we approach the question of the public challenges as well as some recommendations for a big idea intervene we think will take san francisco probation officer o to be a benchmark for other cities in the united states so first approach we wanted to

approach it in a quantitative and qualitative data as bill mentioned the qualitative data we look at the street closer and benchmarks of other cities that have relatively other events and on the qualitative in the experience of the sites and the individuals on the ground to do that we interviewed individuals and really ask them their experience with the process and how they get their information who do they talk to and how has it changed and also want to get the other side we interviewed 8 individual if city agencies and permanent agencies to understand their experience and understanding how many approvals

and permits a year and what kind of systems to handle all the permits they see at first glance we find those the number of events in san francisco has been growing 9.9 percent that is one .7 percent and population around 1.4 percent that's great but for the scientific pressures tare changing the character so on the screen you have two examples of events that are no longer held this year one the tech festival that is closed after 25 years of being in the space and a street festival hoped that is closed after 9 years ever being in the city and you might think those are isolated we're hearing the

saints parade or the zero fair with the socioeconomic chances vjt did sponsors something in the neighborhood to support their events so the 3 challenges are one complexity, so if you look at the top right it is a snap snapshot of what the producers have to go through that is 14 bureaus 10 approvals, sorry 10 permits, 15 approvals they have to go through it is incumbent on a 3rd of fte on the producers side that is a complex process if you're a first time producer and the third challenge is transparency so with 14 bureaucracies 10

websites that produce t the information it is ladder on top of the sub websites that they're able to find what they need this is produces a challenge for the permit agencies because 100 percent the permits require strait with work from the final approval could take weeks because they work with a lot. >> so with the 3 challenges we found 3 pinnacle organizations and look at them to address the complexity we found that a lot of the cities with the process use the hub and scope model this means a central force that manages it's own permit progress from the beginning. >> carries the pertinent

mrfrnt to the end and one point of contact there is none that comes through and make sure they get - the second one to address the issue of transparency is really working to increase the communication so steadfast 10 weths the producers have to go drove one document one centered document for the people and the costs they'll occur and one point of information that then the producers can rely on top of creating the mixers with social hours throughout the years helps to foster the first time event producers feel confront and finally recommendation we are putting on

the table today to address the socioeconomic pressures to make sure we connect the spores to the event producers to find the funding to continue what makes sf unique and hand it back to dillon for questions. >> thank you joyce so first and foremost i'd like to my next step to get our feedback and see if those findings resonate with you and feel accurate and clear as far as you know the emphasis now or later as far as that report itself we're currently hearing from all the departments we interviewed making sure that it is accurate and clear don't want any surprises and want to be collaborative approach and then we'll be doing enjoying and i and the other colleagues will be doing a read out to the

mayor as part of civic bridge presentation with the other presentations on march second and in response to those recommendations you know as far as 2017 planning quick wins are working on a permitting guide that will have a lot of the road maps and way findings and the f f x to make it more clear and oh, i started in your packets started to issuing the outdoor bulletins you know it is a start in the right direction of making sure that when there is a new policy or opportunity that is available to really making sure that information defeats to the right people and so it it squat last week and i'll go doing

mixers and convening to figure out what was the national third party whether a nonprofit or some other entity be that can help identify funders and match them to event producers that need it now the long term major type win is a really the piece of hub and spoke model and urban design group jocelyn and i will have to figure out how to approach the board and a sponsor to push forward those as far as change and i'll be convening a working group of the different departments and you know asking them you know what are the shared goals and you how to work towards the vision and next

steps that is really just again, a collaborative approach and that's 2017 so any questions i'll ebt i'll be happy to take them or chew on that. >> commissioner caminong. >> i want to say congratulations for reading this case report i feel like the first time i've seen written down 14 agency to go through for approval so i just want to clarify what is the minimum process is it basically like a checklist. >> so you know this planning died will have an aggregation of people you'll talk to and deadlines something that i have the power and wherewith all to

do and have done that in my previous jobs that's at the quick win you know, i think the bigger picture we want on online dime portal that would be great if i can get people on the same page it is easy as pdf a pack are links does that answer your question? >> yeah. yeah. absolutely. >> yeah. >> i actually think every commissioner has a question. >> commissioner perez. >> thank you for spearheading this and glad to is where an applicant within city hall an organizer and want to let you, you know that a lot of the cultural

organizers are not professional we're planned community advocates for a festival and tend to preserve the cultural in the neighborhoods so it is overwhelming to go to other department that's why it is kind of - and a lot of us are not versed in filing those complicated forms thank you. i think that will help a lot of events organizers moving forward and thank you for thank you for all your hard work. >> yes. i have thank you for doing all of this this is fantastic to have it written down it is what i've heard from my colleagues that produce those kinds of events with the bureaucracies is overwhelming and some new thing they're

afraid to they'll leave out thank you for this i really like the hub and spoke model of something there is a central listed place for people to go and found out what necessary need and get the permits and applications i speak from a experience if forms with filled out 100 percent wrong the former is what is wrong and not the individual; right? so how we can make that easier and wonder given the extent so many of the events our cultural events by nonprofits and volunteers the dislocation and figure out urgent care find outing go if we have a different standard or someway to make that easier for volunteers and cultural groups for those events i think that is a difference when have lawful

corporate sponsors versus neighbors and a center that wants to put something on so i don't quite know what the answer we have to hold people to the same standard how to make that easier for yeah. for the neighborhood and cultural events. >> yeah. i mean, i'm open for business so, please let people know i'm here for technical assistance throughout the process. >> thank you, thank you very much for this report. >> it is a great solution. >> commissioner lee. >> my turn it is a lot of agencies that even if i with all the knowledge we have i go figured what city streamlined is it something if we get a sponsor we change the

legislation we'll have people on staff that will actually help these nonprofits - i mean a lot more work is it in the entertainment commission or part of about his cot life streamlining but it is so confusing. >> may i. >> do you want to take that. >> i want to context lists to the commission i remember forward and do what did i live on is doing we did a title that was clearly an analyst level position we as part of our authority really have a tiny part tonight as it relates to recollecting outdoor events and before i sound pretty much like

pinky in there the balance of this stuff so the notion we have any control or authority necessarily a quality direction to change from dramatic methodologies or across the city i don't know what to say about that an we can't do it on our own there needs to be political will from a high-level in the city in kind of things need to be examined and changed with the together daylight to suggest and hopefully, t hopefully, the mayor's office will work with us we're not in a budget cycle to grow the entertainment commission or sure we're in the right body to do this nobody was taking on the issue so i decided to do that

for better or worse. >> if the economic development can bring all the departments total i would i know or think that is the ultimate goal if we're streamlining bans other cities other than san francisco. >> i don't know about the streamlining. >> that's something to think about if you streamline it i look at this and say oh, too much work. >> the one thing i want to mention the controller's office is not here to talk but they working with d e m to do an analysis of the emergency medical plan approval process and so there is some complimentary data we want to connect this report to what they're doing and make a bigger

impact so just to say that is coming down the pike. >> thank you yep. >> great job. >> i have a few not number one when i do things i cheat and copy it so you know where i'm going is like a sample if this is a convoluted and a pain to put together a package that can guide me i think that is one of the things that will help with the organization - the thing i see the festival and parade it is huge but i'm lucky enough so have my assistant hearing (laughter) lucky enough that our budget allows us to hire a professional producer and tells him i don't want headaches i'm lucky i get

to have him i've realized with work with the city whoever he go to talk with face to face but the bureaucracy they deal with is they don't want to say anything negative but you have to do that so, yeah - with us putting on the festival we're dealing with rec and park and as civil plaza we are lucky to get the art money and handing is to rec and park and that's lucky because if we didn't get the grants the arts wouldn't have a festival but at the same time i'm going to sfmta to close the growth street so we vaccine have a kiddie area over there and commissioner caminong said something i can't remember that was really a grain i'm just

happy you're doing this because as the process stand now and being a person that kind of looks things not always in a positive marin manner it looks like the city is setting people up to dissuade people might not be true but every time we institute a new rule we don't get rid of of things that don't makes sense i've seen with a new rule with the bottle i say let's community-based introduce the whole package but i appreciate you guys doing it i'm positive that there be a good outcome i believe that. >> i'll add my $0.02 and

spectacular report you didn't say listen mentioned to cultivate to build did argument for everything we do we didn't have the data few years ago about the impact of night life and the data about the impact of the night life events this is one step closure to that i don't know what the end goal trophy is but think that includes mccity sources for events and more salaried positions to facilitate and to hold the hand especially with the community groups to move forward with the types of events he that that hopefully means safer and cheaper and more events for san francisco i think i don't care about we're not number one how to beat this but i think the more we can have the more vibrant and the more

that kind of contributes to the city one quick thought i had with i sat in the presentation of mayors innovation awards last week one of the things sounds similar basically hsa has to process of calfresh and had this statewide website over 25 pages that low income had to apply to in order to get calfresh that was really crazy complex thing that didn't need to so complex we received an innovation award because they redesigned an overlay you can go directly to one website that was simple not a state gibberish site and i think that is like calfresh

sfgovtv.org but the interesting thing not a whole website that gathered information it pushed into the application system i wonder if there is some sort of overlay to create that pushes into that 14 departments applications you didn't have to retype your name 14 types and all the standard information for a simplified form i can send that to you as well but that was one immediate thing i thought of i think we can win an innovation award next year in 2018 anyways commissioner frost or someone. >> yeah. one thing i want to add the city agency is kind of complained that when we put on events we drain the resources from them i want to make sure it put in under when we put on an

event to the city to the general fund and maybe to them is come out of their budget if there's a way to recap or put in how much money was put in and the individual departments can't put a strain on them if it does they can go to the city you think impact feasibility study is enough. >> when the police department or fire department says where is the resource and they can i understand you can talk to the budget people next year or whatever every time they bring up that. >> sorry commissioners. >> i think you're done hearing in us i don't know if we have my responses you don't have to.

>> i said enough and appreciate it. >> thank you very much we're going to open up for public comment any public comment on item this report. >> good evening, commissioners the process before and is now is complicated so it does discourage a lot of people you get on a path and go through a mass it long overdue once the capture the data it will streamline the process to track things a lot better and more efficient and effective we saw when we had the superbowl this time with was political so the city had 0 allow the data hey how much money is coming in the general fund and hotels we need to educate about what we are putting in and getting out

but most of things that the city wants to make sure that maintenance and there's you know impacts are dealt with if you can manage that they're pretty happy with that, i want to applaud the commission and report that was long overdue eased events in this town are globally looked at and that's why we want to live here we have special events and by and large it is diverse and a lot of the people that is what makes it special to live here in the first place. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment thank you to joyce for coming and helping out all right. we're going to move on to item number 6 police department questions or comments i don't think there is a report or questions so move on to item 7 hearing and hearing and

possible action for applications permits we only have one tonight the slogan for the only permit is a change in ownership for a permeate and billiards for a loan star slogan on harrison alone star a bar that historical is recognized absent the first place of the bear movement the bar owners have been involved in the application of management for years and are planning to keep the operation similar to the last ownership for the community and fundraisers they've reached out to their neighbors not many and received letters of support you'll see in the files and i want to call your attention to 6 pages from

gail ruben with her relationship with the previous owners by the actively giving her support to the owners that they'll abide by the good neighbor policy position and southern station approved the permit and here to talk about that is owner char s charlesly evans and hello, everyone. >> hello. >> hi so brewing and i have been there 15 years we love the bar and the area so we jumped on it and i have a astrology background if bayview

management and so unfortunately maggie said all that i'll say (laughter) we have a great relationship with the neighbors and over the years bruce and i are familiar with the operation and the night life and the challenges that brings both during and after hours so i think we've done low to address the issues i can speak marry when you business as usual and not change anything we want to have a dj we can afford one on the weekends and continue on for the last thirty years that's my presentation. >> great. thank you very much commissioners any questions. >> i do actually i know the lone star i

used to deliver pizza there i had a pizza place in the area i'm familiar with your crowd and love the bears so. >> they love pizza too. >> you know that a lot of the development in front of you have gown up and things have changed i had a business there and i know that i see those items have you read this letter from the neighbors on the items they're concerned about. >> yes. >> and had a conversation with reuben. >> i started to speak with them in september she was continent on being in contact with us and as recently as yesterday invited her to the bar and wraukd or walked to the changes their made and plan to make they recommended we get a

salter we got the report and walked through what they asked us to do and yeah, i'm familiar. >> okay. you have no problems with what she's asking for a no, no not at all we did major changes to the sound separate from the venue already and think that as strongly opposed to the venue as it was to come out and speak to that. >> great, thank you. >> commissioner gails name carries a lot of weight great job think getting her on board. >> this is the goal to make her happy when we first took

over i didn't want to hear from you vice versa and she feels exactly the same way no news is good news i had some hang over to get through with her and her partner rightly so but we're going in a great direction. >> that's good to hear. >> yeah. >> and have you seen the police conditions. >> i have. >> proposed and fine with them. >> yeah. yeah. >> don't seem like nothing unusual if so standard for a business. >> the lower one is no the problem because you know we don't have smoke cigarettes. >> it will make a deference to

the impacts as well. >> great i think the more we can do to support night life in the south of market is the more i think that is a goal of the commission and also especially lgbt business are you involved in the cultural isn't there a lgbt cultural heritage and legacy business. >> there are legacy but i don't know how engaged yet with the meetings we're doing on the cultural heritage to try to keep up we'll try to get them involved and gail is involved a historian as it relates to south of market culture. >> yes. yes. >> we have different charters every week every sundays a different charity that week a dawn for destiny last week was

bigger - yeah, the they support us more people have pets while their convalescenceing. >> real paws. >> i think go ahead and have a seat. we'll open up for public comment i don't know if any folks in the room want to come up and speak about this. >> you did wait a while to be heard and i'm bruce one of the new owners this is just we're really excited and i met my partner actually 25 years ago so (laughter) we have a history and our 25

anniversary is 19 in two weeks. >> congratulations congratulations any other public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners anyone want to make a motion. >> motion to approve with the police conditions. >> there's a motion is there a second. >> second. >> second from commissioner perez let's take a vote. >> commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner thomas commissioner caminong commissioner perez president tan. >> that item passes congratulations. >> happy anniversary all right. we'll move on to the election of vice president i apologize. i wanted to do this at the beginning of the meeting he forgot but postpone this it appears that our commissioner that is vacant that seat will be appointed in the next week or so but wait until we have a full

commission and i don't know if we need do we need to move up on that or take it off. >> table that. >> don't call that. >> i move to table this until the next meeting second. >> i'll second that. >> thank you any public comment commissioner perez commissioner caminong commissioner thomas commissioner lee commissioner frost president tan. >> thank you very much finally our last item commissioners questions or comments commissioners, i think there is some parade additional to hear about. >> we have sfavkd parade it starts the second of march and goes to city hall and then the next day a festival out - i

will out at 45th and slope, 27 block of 25th avenue that's the next day just like every event cultural feminist your turn to be irish last week we are that all chinese and in may life-saving and in june we are gay and in- and the filipinos i'm going to get in trouble i'll leave something out we started with the flag raising in front of city hall a week from friday at the 7 o'clock come out and

join us at one of the events or all the events i'm happy to hear that report we got to make that easier in the future. >> and wear green and wear green. >> all right. commissioner thomas. >> i know that senator wiener has transferred senator leno legislation will extending alcohol licenses to 4 and just want to make sure that note that won't be but director kane if an update about what that is doing. >> i can do that certainly i want to ask though that everybody who refers to that call it what it is but call it local control i think that it is a misnomer to call it 4:00 a.m. bill and that's not what it is this

commission i mean we've not taken a position i'm not sure it is appropriate i'm happy to bring one sheet in the office regarding the local control bill by the city never takes a position by the mayor's office so, yes and not suggesting we take a position one one way or another but if it goes through and san francisco exercises the local control that may impact on the thing we're regulating. >> i'll update the commission. >> thank you all right. any other comment. >> i have a comment the 90 awards are next monday night so anyone that would like to attend let me know arrest adu before i or joseph know the annual night life award show this year.

>> 5 year. >> already 5 years. >> commissioner perez. >> one comment about the agenda i think when we have a long report that is given to us and then have one person coming forward to make and sit through something they have no interest in is there a way in the future we can change the agenda. >> absolutely. >> yeah. >> i think that is yeah, the agenda is absent of an experiment what is on it and you know kind of shuffling the cards any public comment not seeing any, i'm going to go ahead and adjourn this meeting have a good