the room including my commissioners in case you haven't done it take time and walk from downtown to the site which i've done twice i had the pleasure of being invited to with two locations that's irrelevant many people that he roof gathering an amazing experience to come to the separately waterfront and the transformation all the way to mission bay and take a break as the park that is absolutely fabulous we see in experience the transformation of the city at our own walking pace i suggest it when you do you'll understand the deputy and sensitivity of what this project is suggesting i wish you could tell you there was a break in two months we

hear great and encouraging stories i sit here and it still had an opportunity happened it could hope the people that working hard on the project and last but not least one of the projects where i'll appreciate myself doing it instead of sitting here i have to say that. >> thank you commissioner koppel. >> yeah. thank you a question for project sponsor i don't want to duplicate my comments from the previous item so once again thrilled about the work development program and the features and low income housing how will you encourage the hunters point shipyard 92424 the apprenticeship programs and

others that's a great question because wisp limited on time i didn't get into that i want to say a few high-level things we're coordinating hand in glove with excuse me - office of economic workforce development on a host of programs one and two encouraging w cd one of the most successful job training based on in the phil randolph impediment happening and 3 we're interested in the construction jobs, of course, i should say that bill introduced with the carpenters local 22 and great relationships with all the trades and citibuild a ton of activities we intend to do that another layer we are building a little village retail and commercial and stewardship piece that phil ginsburg are existed but an opportunity for long term not

the tear construction jobs are great but they come and community-based but deeper training and placement for people to be here in the long term and the stewardship is an interesting opportunity everything from rec and park existing green program that trains the teenagers to be green agers program like that i had to say that to other programs we train folks in maintenance and operations of the large context parks i want to say that permanent employment piece that is important. >> thank you commissioner fong. >> want to share that is excited to be part of bigger pieces of san francisco and part of san francisco and amazes me we have so little public comment but i think that is a great team and following you guys individually for quite a while

on this project and looking forward to the city growing and having assess to 101 commissioner moore said this city we're lucky to be standing in different parts of the city with different views of the skyline and looking ape to the north and looking to the east and seeing a different aspect is fascinating there is a great future in san francisco and i only supportive. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> not to go on to what everything people said a light and urban design absolutely not another mission bay that is existing i can't believe a decade ago an poach to design and a radical different one in the last 25 years it sets the

bar for upcoming project so we expect this for the other projects too thanks. >> commissioner melgar. >> thank you this is really great actually, i'm excited about the part this is really great had a question this is just you know across the street basically but from hunters view in the hope sf is there i'm wondering if you're thinking about that in terms of the programming for the park and how this will relate. >> in fact, in fact, the reason why this firm was ultimately selected during the design was they're a emphasis and focus on assess hunters point is up the hill this is one the space is challenging creating the pathways and its opportunities for people to get up and down the park i have a crazy idea of building

a convenient last year state - this welcomes people under up the hill the process certainly included them some of the focus on sort of community gathers barbecues and recreational and spots for picnics we're attempting to send a strong and clear message this park is for those who live in the neighborhood now as well as those who might live there in the future it is very much on our minds. >> commissioner moore. >> a followup to mr. ginsburg this architect go will design the park is essential part of

millennial park and we saw her work on ocean center there was a coupler ever questions didn't at all diminish what they didn't international and . >> commissioners you gave me the microphone i'll be remiss in i didn't thank michael and jill and the original pioneers in the effort i remember being relatively new to this whole thing and michael and bringing me down and giving me the grand tour that led me to think about the space as a broadening bridge presidio type of model so thank you to those as well. >> thank you all for the presentation i love convenient last year's two so this is amazing been a quote project i know that things have been written about that relatively under the radar one of the more

interesting projects thank you all for your work an amazing scope of the open space that would be here in the project a lot of density and non- non-cookie-cutter way different heights and size parcels that works great so thank you all for the presentation we are excited to see this move forward and with that, we will take a half an hour lunch break thank you. >> please silence any devices that may sound off during the proceedings. commissioners, we left off on item 13325 29th avenue

conditional use authorization commissioners please note public comment is closed. on october 20th you continued this matter by a vote of 7 to zero to january 19th that was continued to march 9 based on past practice a precedence as this is a second hearing the project sponsor, please. >> gets 3 minutes and members of the public allowed one minute. >> planning department staff as your heard this was considered on october 20th and continued to january the project before the commission today differs from the october 20th version the height heck reduced to 36 and a half feet the fourth floor has been setback it will be 5 and 11 and a half feet the

depth of the fourth floor has been escalated back by 10 feet and the roof deck that setback approximately 8 of a even though from the side lot line and the facade has been revised to incorporate a sloped line to keep in the neighborhood characteristic that guess buildings with sloped lines and the proposed third floor front bay window has been replaced and a recessed balcony the department recommend you approve that on the basis that maximize the residential density by replacing a single-family with two family-sized twelve and they adhere to the policies of general plan in compliance with the applicable planning code and meets the general intent of the residential design guidelines

that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions thank you. >> thank you project sponsor 3 minutes. >> jonas 3 minutes. >> ? >> good afternoon, commissioners since your last october hearinging we've met with the neighbors and made compromises to address do neighbors concerns we're not seeking variance nor be necessary and desirable our project is within the planning code and the residential design guidelines we're here to ask you approve the project in front of you the building has been abandon for over many years under the

ownership the foundation is crumbling and the structure has seriously weakened the integrity of the house the house has mold and dry rot and no functioning of the penalty of perjury for the right to renovate it to meet the health and safety will cost over $100,000 the total costs over one $.7 million for a one bedroom two 0 bath a house in a liveable condition is arena a 1.2 not peaceful to my clients purport for that multi generational families to have support and having misrepresent generation family members is cultivately desired the building height reduced on since our last

hearing no october numerous buildings across the street and one behind the the subject property also four stories many other four story buildings the average height is approximately 31 feet close to our proposed height of 36 inches the block has no adherent structure with many styles of the facade and most of buildings have flat roof in the past 16 months revised the facade working closely with the planning department and the neighbors our current proposal includes a roof with the contribution of building and on the building on the left side that is well articulated in scale and comparable to the buildings around the property we have working closely with the planning department staff and neighbors to accommodate the building mason is top floor in

providing the neighbors alternate light over the 16 months we've eliminate a three hundred and 50 square feet on the top floor the revised design is not beyond one and 34 square feet the adjacent wall is 24 feet 19, 6 inches on the property line from the street the top floor has mingle - i have presented in front of you. >> sir, your time is up. >> we'll probably ask questions but open this up to public comment i have several speaker cards (calling names) if anyone else wants to speak

please line up on the screen side of the room. >> my name is jamie hello my wife and i and my two boys live next to the project we've asked for story poles to realize the impact on our home and the neighborhood but the owner refused over 20 letters from the neighbors voicing concerns the west side of 29th avenue you see was that story mostly two stories above a garage in cottage will be replaced we ask you to consider a variance to extend the length of the building to offset the fourth floor thank you. >> thank you.

>> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is katie i live in the house next to the property it has been edited doesn't fit with the neighborhood not create a lessor impact of shade our home is we've k3469 asked for story poles back in november of 2015 the owners have said no back in our meeting in october here at the commission commissioner vice president richards actually asked how easily the sources are direct they said no, i brought - first and this is 12 o'clock in the afternoon the shade against all the windows are totally shaded

by that. >> (inaudible) first and this is at 1 o'clock in the afternoon as you can see how the shade impacts the entire garden. >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> next speaker, please. >> my name is connie my family and i live behind the proposed project in a charming cottage with the same vintage we were imprisoned that the commission found the overall project was out of character and impinged on the privacy of the neighbors and the commission gave derivatives to reduce the it be consistent with the other houses on the block that are two and three story high the sponsors revised

their plan the proposed house looms higher than the other houses if it is approved it will be an open invitation for buildings to be built ruining the character and quality of this block and the surrendering ones that prides itself city with cultural values to the concentration of one one hundred plus cottages that is my own so if you feel you must authors with the destruction of that cottage make sure there is no fourth floor 0 on the new building or we'll have a domino effect across the neighborhood exactly similar projects pending next to my house thank you. >> thank you >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon commissioners my name is susan kelly and like

connie and the desissy live in the neighborhood for 25 years living behind the proposed project two houses over our house was built in 1906 we fundamentally have an issue are the fourth floor it is magnificent i think that katie's picture illustrated it well the depth and height and the mass of building is out of scale with the neighborhood if you have an opportunity to walk done 29 after a uniform look to the majority of 3 story buildings like connie we're concerned about the fact that the house two homes up from us was sold wants to do two houses on 29 avenue same vintage one of for sale there are developers lining up to really destroy this unique part of san francisco the term special we don't want to start a

new wave of specialize in our neighborhood thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon commissioner president hillis and commissioners my name is william a cornell retired in the united states army and thank you for the opportunity to appear on behalf of the core necessarily and her husband during my military service i had the honor and privilege to work with her my experience working with her, she maintenance the highest integrity we were shocked by the allegations the commission was told that at the last hearing that she was known to lie i find that note sorry not the colonel i know i examined the

modifications to the neighbors demand and the concern the new homes i feel the new homes benefit the neighbors and meets the need and - of the opportun

>> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is anthony the architect hired by mr. and

mrs. to perform the project i've found hundreds of romance in the city and did a similar report in 2010 on 27th avenue and the details of the justification and son as of building is laid out in the report but as an engineer i want to emphasize it is my duty as pedestrian safety public safety is my concern the house is structurally and strong the chimney is very unstable so i did strongly encourage and urge commissioners to approve the demolition of the building even it has - the property can be damaged thank you, thank you thank you, sir, your time is up.

>> my name is steve with h a s construction i'll keep this short i represent the gentleman and proposing the work and looking at this building you got to compare it to an old car no matter how much money it is an old car you'll have to get rid of it and get something new i was born and raised in san francisco and seen a lot of improvements in san francisco for the better and hopefully, you'll see this project and move forward that that thank you, thank you thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> i speak with one the neighbors i have lived for two years at the 316, 29 avenue from 335 avenue i support the building

325, 29th avenue they replace a building with an newer building with 3 quality units they've seen 10 taken years i - new neighbors and new building will improve our streets and home i hope a run down building in the neighborhood will be improved we need more housing and more units on the street thank you, thank you thank you, sir is there any additional public comment on this item seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners. >> one more. >> sorry go ahead. >> are you - >> with the project team. >> okay. >> a few seconds. >> you had the opportunity to speak during the first 3 minutes if ours is a member of the project team. >> we may have request questions for you.

>> okay. thank you. >> commissioners commissioner vice president richards let's get all at the starting combat not a discretionary review that is exceptional or extraordinary i heard the project manager. >> go to the microphone. >> this is not an administratively approved demo considered affordable otherwise the zoning administrator would have approved it and this is not a question as to the sounds likeness soundness due to public safety wiping that clean a you conditional use permit necessary and desirable and the question for the project sponsor we asked for story poles back in the last

hearing why weren't there any story poles put up. >> we provided a study. >> but the neighbors can't understand how big the project is without 2 by 4 story poles an inexpensive way for people to understand the height is a neighboring gesture rather than looking at a sunshine study why did you do that. >> i want to defer to my client. >> i feel that ms. disclearly mentioned to me we will fight every step of the way to blouk our project i sense nothing to satisfy him whatever we do and i

feel we provided a sunshine study will show throughout the year and throughout the day to suffice to my thinking that a story pole will not add negligent. >> the person you have to convince is us we approved this not the neighborhood not a dr whether they existed it is up to us we asked for story poles i'm disappointed you didn't spend the little bit of money to put up the poles to let the neighbors see what that looks like that's one the reaps we conditioned continued we have no story poles months stliert i'm not prepared to hear this today i'm sorry. >> commissioner moore. >> i would have to direct my question towards mr. lindsey with the zoning administrator do we have the authority to ask for project poles we have many

projects that are a code compliant for that apples to apples and many other issues in the neighborhood not a common project but into our authority as to whether or not we can ask for story poles. >> commissioner moore david lindsey. >> suspend mr. winslow there is no irate under other planning code to provide story poles as part of review process. >> so someone can volunteer but we i don't think can ask for something not within our set of tools to ask for a i used the words neighborly gesture not required so basically get the project approved spent a little bit of money so the neighbors

can agree with you sorry. >> as i push the button i might as well take a couple of comments that is difficult we have limited tools to properly push back from a single story house in an rh-2 to a more fitting larger home in this particular location so it is almost impossible to do i think that there is something which feels to us and it is not 2, 3, 4 disrespect to the history of the family what they're telling us it is a market driven project it is large and has reduced the top in charge has reduced, the setback has reduced, it has shulg height and unusual building in the context and that's not only 0 in front of us today with that

building go there are other cases each thursday on our agenda which had had same thing and put us into an extremely difficult situation the neighborhood character which are maintaining the neighborhood characteristic as an objective or design is hard to judge and hard to give gage on because older building inherently are built of different spirit and quality than what we typically see presented to us in the scale in which this building is coming forward nothing exceptional or extraordinary about the design of this building i find that non-discrypt not because it is not code compliant we have not raised i'm speaking on a commissioner not raised any standards by which we are

confront to approve buildings which have small cottages some of them of vintage or historic importance we're moving into a reconvene sieved too large should be but we don't have where it shouldn't be so when the architecture is standard to actually be non-disscript and two the impacts you're saying need to be documented with the polls we don't have any tools to perhaps that is the moment noble to continue the project by which we can excuse me - when i think is speculative development in many cases not talking about this project generically my frustration is significantly growing i find that unable to fair share judge what is in front of us and i hear you say that two speaking about

continuance it is almost impossible to participate in the systematic change of neighborhoods when we have not been given any new tools how to do that if we had a week ago on treat we were kind of conflicted and you all know we have an ever week today two or three more time and come forward as to use and others come forward and drs nevertheless, we don't have tools. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> my point we have two things the demolition of the house the second 317 that is compatible and the surviving project which we have to dome as conversionsal

not just the continuing therefore knock down the building i don't know where i'm at we're not in a dr we're on what we're considering we're in the track this is an affordable how's that what an redeveloped we have to make a decision to demolish the house then and that's the perimeters i'm looking at right now commissioner johnson. >> hi okay. so i support in project a few things i'm hearing from commissioner vice president richards and commissioner moore both of which i see some of the perspective but not think they should impact our decision we should make today we've detailed this a number of times i'll go through my thoughts commissioner vice president richards first of all, to your commentary on the

pole and then furthermore what the context in making our decision i sortie building and whoert agree with commissioner moore the story poles are not for projects we sometimes ask for them and sometimes in department of human resources and an attempt to have negotiation and compromise to may see them go up if so not necessary in this case and not arbitrary adding to the page for an rh-1 or rh-2 i don't agree with one more day for that alone and further tools commissioner moore maids and excellent point we've established a policy priority of identifying the possible starting with max out the zoning the current zone and

rh-2 when we especially, when we're stating to see construction we have to unit we have that here commissioner moore makes a dpafk point we don't say have the tools to assess whether or not a building fits into the future not a lot of neighborhood planning outside of the eastern neighborhoods and some of the master planned for the other neighbors we don't have if piece by piece seeing the maximum missing the neighborhood character in some cases replacing the house that is there our priority adjust the neighborhood by utilizing the zoning we don't necessarily have a wide range of view what that future looks like to project by project don't have the tools fitting into the neighborhood character we're trying to adjust the neighborhood character to

fit the zoning he understand that point of view but didn't necessarily for me didn't impact my view of this project i go to the cu necessary and desirable and desirable is not just does it fit the neighborhood character is it does it fit the - mayor pro tem missing the zoning when i do this the checklist what is meant by necessary and desirable that project has enough of them i'm not willing to hold them up for that reason and support the project all over the place hope you don't continue it today. >> to piggyback on some of the comments i support the project i think there is some good things about the project putting two unit in a space were there was one i mean, we could have seen a large home but no additional

units i appreciate the project sponsor brings that back and some of the changes that are maids in the in the right direction i'm troubled by the layout of the unit there are 2, three bedrooms unit but the first ground floor is the diagram and the living room on the second floor and then on the top floor the bedroom floor for the second unit a master suit a large walk-in closet and exercise i get into whether these are really 4 bedroom flats or scale this to a level you don't necessarily need to fit into this neighborhood and still accommodate your programs it troubles me the layout of the unit and how people will actually live in them but i want

to ask were you the one that was negotiating with the neighbors. >> we've met with the neighbors a half of dozen times. >> i want to point out. >> what do you think the remaining issues why was not a compromise reached. >> that's a good question i wish i knew we made so many efforts to compromise the top floors less than 40 percent of what we started with i bring to your attention this page, sir had approved 10 years ago ideal project 36 feet now attacking us as if 36 - >> can i ask you a question thank you. i appreciate it. >> just it is unfortunate we're at a point there has not

been a lot of resolution in the discussion what - how do you characterization. >> the elimination of the fourth floor or put up story poles to look at the impact of the fourth floor. >> and why - what is that that is impactful. >> the shade on to our yard and on 0 it to our garden and dining room and kitchen. >> the fourth floor will tower above all buildings on that side of the block. >> your north of this building so the sun comes from the south. >> that's right. >> comes from this building part of fourth floor a building that bumps up against the top of

fourth floor. >> it is two levels above the garage with a peak so the peak is on the same level as the third floor i think the peak reaches the top of fourth floor the fourth floor is 24 above our house. >> okay we are sensitive to their lose of square footage we're not opposed to getting it by increasing the department of their first floor and applying for a variance we encourage that. >> okay. thank you. >> so, i mean i'm troubled by the layout they don't seem quite right to me and seem like they're kind of three bedroom disguised and three bedrooms and it troubles me i see an exercise room on the fourth floor you're trying to accommodate the

neighbors fears. >> it is a three bedroom so we're going to do something under the mat this is ridiculous i think that that in a multi adjudicator living; right? you need room to breathe to keep the harmony okay. >> so and then your question about the lower level that is the desired building for us to be able to have access to the rear yard and i don't mind that when you - we don't often see drirmz and living room separate i get our point. >> common sense. >> i'm not sure where we're end up but poster of project would prefer not to have a demolition support the two units for some reason the fourth floor it difficult for me it is a pitched roof and many of the

buildings on that mr. cook are pitched roof it is float and seems like they'll prefer that fourth floor not to be there or reduced further to commissioner president hillis point about the two unit there are many roofs have double shotgun i don't know why it is difficult two spate units on two spate levels. >> thank you commissioner moore. >> the units are quite large and the ray out didn't convey was intended so i have a hard time with the fourth floor including bringing that building more tithe into into an architectu architectureal van ness think

last year that is missing for me i don't want to the one thing i believe porous to raise the bar to really understand the difficult aspects of transformation good elements of transformation bring clank from what is an rh-1 building to what was an rh-2 i'll not be able to not think about that bus those people that don't do anything with our own still have to live with the memory and the sense of the neighborhood character which has become the neighborhood we need to bring to raise the bar as high as we can to find the criteria to make the contribution that will be difficult people want this and that. >> make that as harmonies i'll

agree with commissioner fong . >> we still have substantially large unit it is acquired slightly more a different take an architecture that's my suggestion. >> is that a motion commissioner did you make a motion. >> i'm not sure what type of motion that will be. >> commissioner johnson. >> (multiple voices).

>> commissioner fong do you know how to put that into a motion. >> removal of third floor fourth floor sorry. >> i. >> is that the square footage. >> commissioner johnson all i okay. so i think the motion will be without the fourth floor, however, the fourth floor includes a roof deck on the back? ; right? >> on the third floor. >> on the third floor oh. >> where it says exercise room is the fourth floor; right? >> are you sure on the backside sorry about that i'll say if that we'll move the project i mean, i'll be supportive the unit have substantial square footage i think that is will be a really good project for a multi generational home or groups of

people to live there but i'll say in general and again, this gets back to the idea of looking not if we don't get to the ideas envision the neighborhood in the future a bigger picture i'm philosophical don't believe a home you eat and take a shower and the only spaces you're allowed to have when it is contextual there is a nothing room or the spates bedroom when that works allow for the spaces and not question the law outs not 4 people in the family only have four bedrooms or one kitchen i don't think that way but if this moves the project i'm supportive. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> because someone builds

something in the past didn't mean is where we have to support that and schong especially i support outgoing densification absolutely we want more density quality two units are relatively the same size a good idea and no sham units is funky but let it squeak but i'm supportive of lope off the fourth floor. >> is there a second. >> commissioner moore. >> i like for us to reintroduce the idea of the sounds likeness report including starting to develop policies together with the department on criteria by which we can look at this slightly different in the past not a one shot night time anymore by large issues to be consistent with. >> commissioner vice president

richards. >> to staff sounds likeness report can you talk about the process about the health and safety issues and who makes the decisions on who the building is demolished. >> under section 317 of the prado a planning code you can have an administrative approval of an unsound in an rh-1 zoning district. >> how will you have an rh-2. >> which this is. >> a single-family building. >> it will require a cu. >> requires a cu. >> not because of a soundness issue that is separate people think it will collapse. >> that case we need a statement from the department of building inspection. >> confirmed. >> this is a process for sound nensness we commissioners don't need to get into i think the

word soundness report clouds the decision. >> staff didn't analysis the soundness report point applicant provided for this it concluded the building was unsound. >> commissioner moore. >> this goes beyond what we're currently saying ultimately i want to see the neighborhood character criteria for each the cases they're looking at not pass from the historic preservation commission i'm not talking about the traditional neighborhood but for example, many projects having too many class their destroying the neighborhood character we need principles but which we can prevent this from happening. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, there is a motion that has been seconded to approve this project approve

with conditions without as amended to eliminate the fourth floor commissioner fong commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore and commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president hillis so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to endear zero and places us on item 142120 broadway this is a conditional use authorization. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm mary woods of department staff did project sponsor hammond school is seeking a conditional use authorization for a planned unit development that will include planned unit development modification to the rear yard and how the height is measured 3 buildings occupying the site the project proposes alternatives and schematic upgrade to 2 of the that

building the makinna hall building and the middle building located in the middle of the lot no word is proposed for the that building which fronts on broadway the school is seeking an enrollment there from 4 hundred to 4 hundred and 40 it was established in 1987 under case in order to minimize the traffic and circulation issues that may arise due to the increasing enforcement staff recommended 8 transportation improvement measures those 8 improvement measures and are listed for your adoption and requires finding modification to the rear yard and height measurements since last week the

commission packet staff received 4 additional support letters the departments recommends to approve with conditions this summarizes for the proposed project if spropd you have i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you, ms. woods project sponsor up to 10 minutes. >> good afternoon. initiation my name is wandering district attorney green i'm proudly served as the head of hamlin school that is hamlin a little girl with big dreams with the inspirationally women's day i'm

spider to talk about the education of young girl and grew up in massachusetts in the 40 and her magnificent vision to move from the west coast to the east coast i get to be the 11 head of school in a one hundred and 53 year history i'm proud to give the young girls and women of san francisco an excellent education of which their inspired to meet the model of our school we talk about girls meeting the challenges in the mission they have become inspiring leaders extraordinary people ready to take care of many of the things that plague our world i'd be able to hand out hundreds of diplomas from young girls women and inspired everyday he get up and come to work our

school is relatively small 9 grade levels and 45 girls approximately in each grade and one hundred full-time faculty we diverse in the composition over 20 percent of girls receive financial assistance and from to 50 girls are people of color we're representing over 25 ohio we want to continue to be the school it provides access to the families particularly our little girls in the city you'll note our proposal includes a 10 percent enrollment increase and that will allow us to continue to include the family just to be clear we don't intend to go from zero to 90 speaks for itself in a go for 10 percent in the short term our goal as demand for enrollment increases in the middle of the season have the

flexibility to expand our student body gradually not immediately to 440 we in fact, want to increase gradually i want to be clear about that within the current political criminality that's our motioning mission more than ever women's rights are on the memo i want women and girls at the table we have buffoon part of protestants we moved in 1927 and i media you family working hard to try to get to know the neighbors and treat them with the respect and kindness we're among several schools and having schools in the neighborhood has an impact and minimize the impact and maximize the impact how girls come to school everyday in the spirit we've worked with the community and hired a traffic

consultant and we worked to incorporate 8 specific transportation improvement measures that is in our packets i'll highlight we've done a lot work to minimize the negative impacts we started with the scalds with sacred heart next door and rented parking space for they used to get their cars off the streets and added according guard and buchanan and broadway and staggered the dismissal time at different time of the afternoon and implemented a traffic transportation demand management that includes carpools making sure that multiple girls are getting into cars sisters and neighborhood friends in the same car not only students and famous but our employees to walking, biking,

and use public transportation and offer reimbursement those - to expand the management plan to minimize the vehicles and make sure their sufficient communication with our neighbors during the construction and communicated all this with the neighbors and so pleased our pacific heights residence association has endorsed the association and with any good relationship we want to make sure we continue to keep the conversations open with the folks and opening to make sure they live comfortably and peacefully in the neighborhood i wanted to say before i i'm going to turn it over to felicia the lead architect this is a program that is driving girls to

do great things our girls are designing and collaboratively the 21st century demand gills get out of their seats if you walked into the school and image the walls they'll say sit down and we want to make our classroom more open and light and air and making sure our girls have the elbow room to do the work in the world we don't have a gymnasium we like a gymnasium that regulation size and for our girls that are acts to be front and center and exercise their voices and, of course, from the audit we want to improve our adu for families and faculties and we want to improve the seismic upgrades i want to reiterate the fact you've heard we're not planning to make any changes an broadway

the exterior broward interior the building fronting broadway no changes the biggest changes are really the reprogramming of the interior of the building that faces vallejo called makinna and finally i've been an educator for thirty years the opportunity to preserve the legacy is extraordinary i love taking this picture the land we sit on didn't belong to us individually but those of us that went address ahead and those who currently occupy the school in many ways the future belongs to the girls of san francisco i'm a proud educator and want to approve that school for another one hundred and 50 years thank you for your

consideration. >> yes. >> thank you wandering i'm felicia with the successors we've been working with the hamlin school for 4 years for the improvements of the campus telegraph hill as wandering mentioned it is comprised of that building - fronting vallejo a concrete structure and the middle building in the middle is the two-story building you can barely see from the street the schools projects to provide them with a regulation sized gymnasium it is too short for play another goal of the master plan to have a gathering space for the school they

currently share with the gym and other goals are larger bathrooms and schematic and accessibility improvements and better connectivity as on the existing sites a thirty foot retaining wall is from east to west half the classrooms face the retaining wall it is unusual except phone number for a - the design focuses on the center of the site expanding makinna hall and it files a small courtyard to the east the gymnasium products the 24 foot height required for a middle school - circulation is improved to the construction of a new elevator that expends from the basement

level to the second floor of the middle building by connecting neither here nor there the entire school by one roof and this is what it looks like now and this is what it will be like after the proposed renovation and elevator terrace on top of the gym we proposed only moderate modifications for the main entrance to the inflict of stair improvement will reinforce the entrance mary woods requested we have slides to talk about the tight measurement requested as part of puc authorization. >> go ahead you want to. >> i have. >> 30 seconds we may have questions. >> okay when following the grade line as shown in red the retaining wall

in the middle of the site is an anomaly instead we want to take measurement creating something that reflect the lot the proposed project is visible will be transformative and thank you for your time i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you ladies open up for public comment i've got a couple of speaker cards but certainly others are to speak please line up on the screen side of the room. (calling names) you can approach the podium in any order. >> good afternoon my name is casey a proud person from hamlin and a proud parent run the board and as president of the board i've thank you for the opportunity to connect with so many go women that are

successful in their lives an amazing experience hamlin taught me everything we welcome our women to come back home you should see what the school looks like that is incredible we talk about field trips and former teachers and learn from the current students what is hamlin like today at that time when the city is changing the elements of the school will not be changing it is a beautiful, beautiful building if you've seen it inside or outside we want the future students to see the building as it is die today and when the older folks come they say this is a room i boarded in my daughter is a second grader and will benefit so much from

the project we hope you'll approve it. >> next speaker, please. >> thank you to the members of planning commission to listen to our community i'm a proud parent of two daughters at the hamlin one in 5 and one 7 grade and a as a hamlin family we've watched our daughters grow in this environment from a stemmed to global projects hamlin abides in extremely thinking as a member of the brouft i've witnessed the strategy plan for the ambitious goals the renovation is absolutely paramount to hamlin achieving those skills for my daughter a bigger room for science classes and a gymnasium and a performing art space

hamlin is an outstanding school for generations and it will thrive will long after my dautsz are there i respectfully you urge you to approve the project today thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is abby i'm a founder of an architecture firm here in san francisco and serve as a member of the board of trustees on the building and ground committee i've had the privilege to work with the educators in the country hamlin faculties 19 are dedicated to their job with an incredible program what the hamlin experience lacks the resources to keep pace with the program and the building standards that's why i'm thrilled about the proposal i've been part of project since it's inception 4

years ago i can see the campus project is truly the result of years of the community outreach of faculty input and a large amount of planning all with the goal of how the building can serve the school, girl and community hopefully, the next one hundred years and especially with the teachers that will help the families navigate this incredibly vertical campus and we are really pleased did plan offers the outdoor space to an urban place for playing and socializing and most of all thrilled about the upgrades that hamlin can stay at the location for one hundred years and beyond that is boring to talk about the

mechanical system but the piece of the project is hugely important to me api i've been in the classrooms with the stagnant air and something that i think critical to learning and critical for attention span with good air so just personally thrilled about the upgrades in the mechanical system and just respectfully urge you to approve the proposal today thank you very much thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm doctor mali didn't richardson 20 years ago we bought a property on church street and two right boundaries that adjacent to the hamlin i'm here to ask you support this renovation i'm neither a neighbor that is impacted but most impressed how hamlin has

set up community meeting and addressed a personal issues they've gone to people's homes saying this is what we'll do i'm impressed and hamlin has done other construction projects their outstanding in terms of confusion so i hope you approve hamlin''s proposal the school is a tremendous neighbor not hurts me living next door to a school that is a great neighborhood thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good morning, commissioners thank you for your time and your service to our city my name is amy several points i want to talk about i'm a parent and the teacher in the language department 3 grade and a homeowner and maybe for the last few years hamlin is a difference community and the foundation they need to this kind of as people and students in my

daughter is a current 7 grader and graduates from hamlin it is extraordinary she's had opportunities at hamlin the inside the building didn't match the magic the program the gymnasium is an embarrassment and the campus is disjointed hamlin 0 needs to renovate, upgrade it's campus i respectfully ask you to approve this today thank you. >> is there any additional public comment on this item. >> seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner moore. >> if we spent a lot of time talking about den densification in our last project not knowing how to judge this this particular project more than hits the sweet spot this is

interesting it is actually institutional use surrounding by residential neighbors who are impacted in all directions i look ated what this does to the neighbors it make see space more interesting i think that couldn't have been a better combination between this infill project how it extended the grades and supergreen grating it i couldn't see a better architect than the one that was hired i think i'll jump to the line and approve that approve with conditions. >> second. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i'll be brief i'm amazed i've been a resident for 24 years and i've not known about live urban schools and many, many others that came before us

very eloquent representation ma'am, you should be the sales person i like the fact an enforcement and you'll do that gradually it is in a well way so happy to second. >> commissioner moore and i'd like to make one comment on reporting on enforcement we have a number of schools names not to be mentioned that don't report on enforcement those people do it voluntarily in the context of speaking to endanger the conditional in addition you'll have a regulation giving him in the next o linen in the school. >> approve with conditions on

that commissioner johnson. >> commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards commissioner president hillis so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero. >> thank you jonas. >> commissioners that places us on item 15 ab a through to project sponsors case we're calling them up together their projects that are proposed by the same arithmetic and adjacent to one another for cases 4041 cesar chavez street and 4043 cesar chavez street conditional use authorization chair would like to limit the project sponsors presentation to a combined 15 minutes. >> good morning, jeff planning

department staff the item before you are two separate projects with the shared project sponsor on parcels on fiat 4043 cesar chavez street and a 40-x height and bulk designation on the south side of cesar chavez street between noah to the west and assistance to the east within a noah valley neighborhood the caesar chavez slopes from the west to the east and both properties if the frontage to the rear property line parcels within the immediate vicinity are residential one to 3 and single-family constructed between 19 hundred and the 1920s it exhibits a great variety of architecture scale it is a project on 4041 cesar chavez street the subject parcel is 25 by one hundred and 14 feet within an area of 200 and 50

square feet with a two-story 9 thousand plus square feet two bedroom in 19 hundred the project construct a 4 thousand plus square feet two family between with garage with size

and - what has been marked as the department approve with conditions for 4041 cesar chavez street and building that is necessary and desirable meets all applicable of the residential design guidelines and historic resource is the determination that the existing building is not a historic resource or landmark and will result in a net gain of one between what the maximum lout in the rh-2 zone and conditions for 4043 cesar chavez street building that is necessary and desirable for the following reasons the project meets all the planning code the general plan and the residential design guidelines historic resource evaluation with a determination not a historic structure and the project will result in a net

gain maximizing the density in the rh-2 zoning district that concludes my presentation. i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you very much project sponsor you have a 15 minute presentation. >> yeah. for both. >> good morning, commissioners er i didn't i'm the architect for both projects i'm going to make a few remarks and the owners want to address you briefly as well before you are two projects nobilityly unremarkable we propose to replace two single-family houses with two, two family unit buildings the applicant are long term residents and smalltime

developers one of whom lives in the neighborhood they've seen a lot of activity many of the remodels have been for large single-family units that is caused a coronation of the residents of the neighborhood but led to a miss characterization on examine on tomato and move to the controversial one on 4043 cesar chavez street 4041 cesar chavez street has no opposition 3 people showed up wore the preoperative meeting and to the west of 4043 cesar chavez street came to talk about 4043 cesar chavez street and not 4041 cesar chavez street and fable that was curious ralph will be speaking for the 4047 asked for any reason deck

provision and those were challenged other than we've heard nothing from anyone after making the application more than a year ago the adjacent neighbors on both sides have not opposed the projects and no negative impacts 4041 cesar chavez street is named on the opposition letters but united states thrust of those form letters that misguided at 4043 cesar chavez street i'd like to address that what calibrates the 4043 cesar chavez street project the uphill neighbor and two perhaps are significantly sized the attached structures in their rear yard theirs 6 hundred square feet the other is three hundred square feet those are large attached buildings on other lots in the rear yard reasons i don't understand this has led to the project as phil the mid block space this is not

further from the truth for the open space not the building we're proposing at the 4043 cesar chavez street our project did not repeat that did not encroach that is a required rear yard this is a very significant and that the bulk of the block respect the pattern of development and built to 45 rear yard line and in the mid block i'd like to make 4 points fair we're removing our non-conforming treasure in the rear yard but hope to make that an adu to the housing authority and rather the 45 rare yard line we've come applied with stopping the mass of the building in line with 4047 all pop outs beyond that line is a magnified to the east here's

the code averaging but as a rdt principle for the mass as a 4043 cesar chavez street in terms of non-conforming structure and mid block open space to the west at 4047 no secret the real opposition comes from the neighborhood at 4047 we've spent hours and alternated the project at residential design teams request if they redevelop their property the project will probably demolition the structure and much like the recent vented property to the west it is my duty to point out that our project on the north side the natural topography to the north and west talk about

the bring your attention of the light and air we share with 4047 in the rdt demonstrates all the significant shading comes from the properties wants to the south and west and third worked with rdt and the neighbors to address did concerns and ralph go exhibit d it is the extent we've modified the proposal andized the mass of building we feel we've do the right thing and protected the neighbors mid block not non-conforming structure and providing two family units that the planning department wants and the city needs the reduced floor plates we are working with has been to the to squeeze in bedrooms note the adjacent bedrooms are

necessary so parents don't have to sleep away from their children and finally we hope the commission notes we have staff support it is what is best for the community that is the basis for my cu request i hope you see side non-conforming mid block pattern for what it is and see our proposal respect that and still provides quality family units that are necessary and desirable and that the city spelling needs he respect ask for your support in our application i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> i believe the owners want to speak briefly. >> good morning, everyone commissioners thank for hearing us this afternoon just to give a brief history of

our empowers with the appellant we've met 7 times and the most recent this past friday for 92 minutes in the past we've worked anna has serious medical conditions we've worked to accommodate and made concession to our decision relocating the kitchen and bathroom from that part of property line and modest the venting any roof convenienting and confirmed will go to the odds of property we've modified did working out and added parapet and add parapet height to 6 feet on the deck and added upscale windowpanes they third floor kitchen

we've offered to build a concrete wall that derivatives the perhaps on the backyard at no cost and we've restricted our deck roof deck pulled them away from their side of the property and put them to the odds i feel we've more than been generous and hopefully today, this will be an end. >> like i said our last meeting was 90 minutes i stood in the yard with ralph and alice they throughout our this went you future than that actually does he pulled out a set of drawings and at that time, they understand they misread our building was 12 to 15 further towards the space than they

initially thought i think at a point this made a difference they agreed there was a drastic difference and ralph can see i removed the upper level floor that will be the end to our this appeal but like i said the floor plate is there it is too small that's 13 hundred or sorry 14 hundred and 31 square feet unit the bedrooms are we have a bedroom that is 10 by 10 which is called a three bedroom unit we're trying to create a fungal unit and we're cut to a point it is gone beyond we hope you come to a conclusion

here today thank you very much. >> thank you so we'll open up for public comment i believe jonas we have organized opposition. >> we do have did the other project sponsor wish to speak there is 5 minutes left on here. >> the project sponsor was that the conclusion of our presentation you have 5 minutes but you can give that time back to us if you like. >> our i'm not used to this is the a rush of blood to the head here i've got 45 signatures - and i've got a plot plan that shows a two block radius of our sight the one in blue the blew colored our side and in red is ralph and alice next door the red x's are letters of opposition that are towards the

project which total 7 and we've got 9 snatch on the surrounding area which are and a total of 45 signatures across the board you thank you very much. >> thank you so back to public comment. >> mr. weaver the chair recognized opposition with a minimum of 3 speakers. >> good afternoon. commissioner my name is scott weaver alice and ralph have resided at 4047 for the last two years next door is 4043 cesar chavez street they work out of their homes ralph has an accounted

accountant and alice is an artist and spent a lot of time at the property that was first proposed a cause of great concern they spend owl their time and spend all their time for the rest of their natural lives since this project was first property they have engaged with the developer i take issue with the characterizations you've heard i think you can take what we've conceded and met with they've met with the members of the planning department staff trying to get the project modified to address some of the major issues they see with respect to the project but let's first looked at the overall context because - >> whoops

overhead please. you'll see the - (inaudible) provided with respect to the number of square footage in the buildings the proposed project far exceed the bulk of the properties adjacent to them those are two unit buildings there is a four unit building that has less space the only building that is bigger a 12 unit at the top of the hill if these projects are approved it is not urban reasonable to ask for a few modifications to minimize the negative impact of ralph and alice and the rest of the neighbors one major concern is the third floor rear of the

proposed project it is not designated as a deck and kitchen this significantly interferes with light and privacy it look down into their backyard the residential rdt initially rejected this the rdt are the oriental said cut that off and in june of 2016 ralph and alice were contestant this no longer going to be an issue and find out in january an appeal and that decision had been reversed and see what you have here today nothing in the file that reflect there no meeting minutes or notes how this decision was made there is no mention of this occurrence in the staff report it indicates the opposite opposite the changes respond to

the adjacent building condition awhile ralph and alice's eyes they don't appropriately respond to the adjacent building conditions i remind you see this is not just a little thing both of them live and work at the property so a couple of ways to address this issue one to remove the deck too this could done a minimum 8 decks between the two projects 8 right now two in the existing two unit properties two tenants in each property and to move the kitchen back so that it will conform with the original rdt determination or to move the kitchen and dining room up on behalf of with a living room up above and the bedrooms downstairs not to delay lose square footage move the setback in the front forward a

little bit and this is not a reasonable in this situation i know that sounds like hearsay not 0 to have a setback on the fourth floor not a heavily traveled street an uphill street people don't walk and seemed like off at the top within building united kingdom up from ralph and alice. >> fourth floor not setback they're not important, important than the issues of privacy and the mid block area both projects further both projects are too much decks like i said 8 decks between the two of them 4043 cesar chavez street

has 4 decks removing one deck not a serious immunization there is in other words, east on the west side of the property weld it moved to the east side the way it is situated in the current structure we've sent you information how this project will be detrimental to alice's health she's has multiple sensitivity and is unable to resist toxins in the area and chemicals like lead and

it makes that harder and harder for her to recover with each exposure and the project sponsor has agreed to vent the kitchen and laundry to the east side we appreciate that so that she not be exposed to the kitchen and i did laundry room they've also agreed to build a fence along property line to prevent things onto the property we appreciate that but more can be done we request that all destroy standards be observed and strieshl enforced to mitigate the exposure during the construction process and finally

they've requested that a lightwell be created to allow them to have some light in the upstairs bathroom it is an out of obstructed view to the east what is proposed is going to be one to one and a half stories above that and obstruct the light out of their became the sponsor agreed to a one foot lightwell a 3 feet lightwell otherwise no light will go into it so what time we have left ralph and alice's have a few words to say i'm ralph first of all, can you pass out the handouts the financier i want to do speak about the mike there. >> oh, i'm sorry.

>> obstruction our cottage is a permitted structure in 1987 i wanted to correct that i wanted you to look at the handout with drawings of a modification we drew up that will satisfy our needs our major concern is pop out on the third floor in the rear that's the major thing and also included is a sketch i'm sure that jeff drew when we had our meeting july 7, 2016, how rdt will apply to the rear the structure we left that meeting understanding that was what is happening and did pursue that issue no more we thought

the residential design team had expressed the guidelines and that was not until january 21st that last month i found out different i want to introduce alice's and the children. >> hi like ralph i'm strongly opposed to the project other 4041 cesar chavez street and 4043 cesar chavez street we've spent a lot of time this year fighting the development we take the loss of light and privacy very seriously that is a success year fortunately is that. >> thank you, ma'am jupiter. >> okay that's it. >> thank you our time is up. >> all right. we have additional public speakers on

this item i'll call a couple of names (calling names) others want to speak please line up on the screen side of the room. >> i own the property on 4043 cesar chavez street i have wondering about four things that building is now built on below grade because when it rains if there is something didn't gone my garage is floated the tree in the back 80 feet tree the contractor says that is not his it is on his property line it is coming into their property a redwood

and then when the building was built next door to us the fascinate room in the back they put the walls against my house i spent one and 50 theorizing siding on the house and so abated the lead bait and get a letter two weeks ago from you people they're building a house next door to me this is first one i heard and the address the letter said march 9, 1916 this is 17 so i don't know if the person typing it i haven't got a blueprint of the house that is being built next to me i want to

know what is going on. >> who is fault is it the contractor? or the city's that's it any question. >> thank you, sir we can't have dialogue in this meeting but can contact the staff member and get the design or for the project. >> i don't have access to a commuter. >> we can get them to you talk to our staff. >> next speaker, please. >> commissioners my name is kate hartley, deputy director mayor's office of housing and community development. run an architecture historian i urge the commission to deny the conditional use authorization and not allow the demolition at the 4041 cesar chavez street and

4043 cesar chavez street this is represent of a citywide pattern of demolition of smaller scale affordable housing projects involve a lot of historic building in this case the demolition of each cottage will result in a net gain of one between i'm sorry hold on this is really distracting, sir. >> so the demolition of each cottage is going to result in the net gain of one between on each site one between that harder seems worst the loss of two 1906 two units of affordable housing that contribute to the historic streetscape of noah vally and the city of san francisco overall both residents quality at the a historic residents for the california environmental quality act both are contributor this the history within the noah vally and

distinguished by two and three multi family and stwnlz constructed between 19 hundred and 1920s we are asked to provide an analysis from the building will contribute to a potential district i don't understand what e why that was not done here with a little difference in terms of housing stock finally, i want to say i'm an architectural historian by profession i'm not here today i don't have my client that asked me to be here to speak to give my opinion i see a number of categorical exemption by the planning department i have issue with many of them this rise to a level i decided to come here on my on time and talk about the philosophies of the building it is maeshthd as a developers

special development dream and i just have seen the trend and the city that worries me not a project in the past i urge you to deny the conditional use authorization today thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> ms. rum. >> good afternoon commissioners from the no neighborhood noah valley council first of all, i want to second what the previous speaker said about the project and add one of those buildings 4041 cesar chavez street is occupied by tenants and bought by the now owner those people will lose their home because the demolition that is coming before you so if you approve the

demolition tenants will be losing their homes so that's something to consider overhead please. on april 27, 2016, the rdt authorized the two extension to 3 stories and later on the sponsor was r to reduce to 2 stories for additions part of the rear wall the person asked to be overruled although an agenda showing the project will be considered by managers no why it was made we only know that was overruled because of plans before you we understand that the sponsor asked for it to be over rules u ruled another project that was

under review even though the project has not been built or approved it became the guiding context for average when unapproved nearby projects from other orientals are under reviewer their node used in armenian the reason is obvious it may not influence the existing context if the then upcoming approved project was the reason or the first of all, the rdt subscription it is tra contrary to common sense that's why i ask you not to authorize this project and have the original to apply we ask the senior

management tool document this so the people can know who made that and why it outdoor as you're well aware not the first one the rdt directions have been overturned without justification in the past years. similar cases awake 28, 19th street until you're required documentation the reversals will happen without the written record. >> thank you, ms. rum. >> next speaker, please. >> game-changer commissioners president of the liberty hill neighborhood association i certainly support what ms. rum said and like to also say we

don't feel this conditional use authorization should be approved a very troubling aspect about this project is the review process after a july 2016 meeting a sunshine ordnance request no written examination but after the dwishgd e-mails a schedule of rdt was recessed without written explanation the sunshine request show the senior management making closed doors direction without written documentation viewing those proposals

there is a lack of transparency and fairness here opposing neighbors learned about the rdt referral 6 months later can i have the overhead, please? departments heads are required to document the decisions in writing article 3 of the sunshine ordinance behind the scenes reversals create a loophole around the sunshine ordinance without public disclosure the public didn't know what to ask for when the decisions are reversed sunshine requests can't provide meaningful materials and lost a democratic tool that provides transparency in our public process

given the current political climate there is eroding public trust we ask all procedures be documented and published and adhered to allow for a fair review process i have a sunshine here. >> thank you very much >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is bruce i'm a resident of dlefts and a member of the delores heights xhoevenlt club that is planning and land use committee i share and would like to second the comments about the process problems with respect to this project in particular, the transparent or lack therefore of the treatment of the residential design team represents and the change to the project one

specific aspect troubles me the self-nature the two projects being processed one is justified as on the basis a thought others both unapproved projects with different owners so this kind of one project being justified on the basis of a phenomenon tom project next door is troublesome maybe the topic of a subject before difficult to say without the documentation of the topic with the averaging one house based on an unapproved house next door the context description of one 0 house based on a phenomenon tom project is this documents was not provided

nicole the description when something was brought to mind this is like planning by mcone is boat streetscaping another - boo should are rejected or scaled back to the recommendations thank you, thank you thank you, sir. >> next speaker, please. >> could you set timer please. good afternoon commissioner president hillis president and fellow commissioners the proposed project at 4041 cesar chavez street and 4043 cesar chavez street will spend into the lot causing the adjacent neighbors to the west feeling

boxed in on the 3-d republican inundation you'll clearing see the neighbors on 4047 will be burdened by an adjacent house 4047 and there's the next one and that house is already existing so feeling really boxed in and you really have to go there to get the feeling of that a picture is not worth a thousand words nicole okay. the residential design guidelines advises against this i'll quote an out of scale rear yard addition leaves the neighbors feeling boxed in to recommend this the residential

design team setting back the upper floors or reducing the footprint of the addition the neighbors fables will be impacted by the project has spent most negotiating with the project sponsor who has failed to acknowledge this project and intentionally ignored that addresses them one other thing mrs. rum pointed out vocations i heard from ralph that his representative there will be 4 or 5 or 6 eviction because of this, please reject the conditional use authorization and support the directions by requiring the project sponsor to take at the third floor rear pop out

eliminate the pop out at the rear to reduce the impact of the imposing structure at the nine hundred and 35 quiet is the this year is large enough thank you. >> is there any additional public comment on that all right. ms. swedish. >> thank you, mr. ionin i have a trouble with that, i see it in the bucket of the demolition it is great they're not gaining the system and doing this fake demolition and i applaud them for that but i'm sorry they have their reason it is unfortunately ,those the hours their family-sized housing we know what that is they'll be gone and they're old and the other thing not that many projects like this in noah valley like having a