item. >> this particular project hospital hsa been in the department before - >> and commissioner moore was there a direction. >> i have no problem with the high parapet i want to see a note on the drawings that the movement that is unoccupied the ventriclar dein violation to all of a sudden use the entire roof the urban opted out roof can't be used as a back up. >> thank you the other question i'd like to ask you've been sharing our family stories will be you have a dialogue where the colors i'll appreciate that. >> thank you commissioners the date april 13th i don't hear a second.

>> second. >> thank you commissioners to continue this matter to april 13th for revisions with direction commissioner fong commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner moore and commissioner vice president richards so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero and places us in public comment there are no speaker cards. >> any general public comment seeing none, the the meeting is adjourned

>> please silence any devices that may sound off during the proceedings. commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. 50ir789 commissioner president hillis commissioner vice president richards commissioner koppel and commissioner moore we do expect commissioner fong and commissioner johnson to arrive shortly and commissioner melgar to be absent commissioners, the first item on your agenda consideration of items proposed for continuance. 2855 filbert street discretionary review april 6th 650 divisadero street conditional use authorization and rear yard modification april 6th

1019-1033 clement avenue conditional use authorization proposed for continuance and 471 24th avenue conditional use authorization proposed for indefinite continuance no other items proposed for continuance and there are no speaker cards. >> thank you jonas any public comment on items 1 through 4 proposed for continuance go ahead line up and speak at the mike this is the time to address the continuance not necessarily the project itself so. >> i get it. >> whether or not you're in. >> i'm a member of group neighbors united in support of the 2a basically, we as a

community in district 5 have been promised a lot when it comes to affordable housing and our supervisor unfortunately has been installing the legislation pro tem a higher amount of it after working with the community to get to a certain point she's stalled it this is frustrating support the continuance the 13.5 percent is slap in the face and under the circumstances is that acceptable a huge gateway give away. >> what we're considering not the project but the continuance. >> i support continuing the project absolutely unless the legislation is actually proposed

it supervisor president breed proposed in her election campaign hopefully she makes good before passing this. >> thank you good afternoon, commissioners my name is testing with d 5 action a resident of district 5 for a long time i support the i was in the chamber when supervisor president london breed said she'll correct the errors with the divisadero and fillmore up zoning them without increasing the affordability she promised to come back after prop c whether that passed or failed and put forward her legislation with the 24 percent please support the continuance until we

get the up zoning rick rectified. >> hi (laughter) clark you've heard the housing detailed is housing denied wait the issue if we allow this to continue to delay and delay and delay there is no amount that will satisfy the community groups we note to expedite those through the process thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm here to speak on the continuance of sdris i've lived in the ifrp district 5 for 20 years the reason i'm here i saw that flier it has me concerned it is supervisor

president breed affordability legislation it was last seen on her desk and not seen again, it was spoken of a great deal during her election we need to stop everything and find it before it dies that's why i support it. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good morning, commissioners i'm lisa to speak in support of continuance of the project 650 divisadero street a landscape a member of the group on december 4, 2015, our own supervisor london breed held a press conference in front of the theatre on the block 650 to increase the percentage of

required affordable housing in new private developments along divisadero and fillmore and stated quote most of all it will be the highest affordable housing requirement ever, ever in the city and county of san francisco unquote it same legislation is in limbo she continues to make speeches about affordable housing for her constituents the stark realty not enough of the new construction is available for people he earning less than one thousand dollars a year i've reached two developments with the pricing data of available units the community by the uc extension site from two days ago. >> i'm sorry we're only talking about the turns. >> i understand if by the issue is truly affordable

housing it is not the two competitors we're caught between our supervisor and the planning commission and the developer. >> thank you very much thank you we appreciate it. >> hi my name is suzy osborn i'm a third-generation san franciscan my husband and i have a business in district 5 and here to support the continuance of the 650 divisadero i'm an artist and i saw you at the fort mason situation i wanted to say i'm here to support neighbors unit a member of it supervisor president london breed ran for office on affordable housing and promised this development only officers 13 percent affordable housing not acceptable we need more affordable housing and so i'd like to ask for a

continuance of 2a thank you. >> thank you is there any additional public comment on the items being worked out proposed go ahead. >> hello thank you for having me. i'm here and thank you, again my situation is i grew up in a neighborhood of divisadero and been there about since 1990 number one, and number two, the area changed and 3 i see my communities are harmed throughout the city of san francisco the fourth thing i want a continuance of the drits the reason why the following is that you don't affordable housing for minority you guys put on by different marries by the released the country's again 13.56 will let me ask you a

question would you like to live in the 13.5 affordable housing units hey i don't have that much money so you need to increase the volume of housing not only in district 5 in san francisco but the plight of african-american community you can see it an article in the sxhoinl about the divisadero how it changed and other article again, i'm here for a continuance of the 650 divisadero and supervisor president london breed stated affordable housing all her campaign literature everyday i want to help i want to help you but the fact that 13.5 none can live that way one of my colleagues said $100,000 people are struggling i stand i'm heretofore a continuance of 650

divisadero and again, on the plight 13.5 affordable housing do not work in san francisco and again, thank you for first of all, thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm director heineckeized lived in the page for 28 years a senior on limited income i support the continuance of 650 we need more affordable housing and london breed promised more affordable housing and not following through now she's in office i'd like to see a continuance on that. >> thank you, thank you very much. >> hi my name is a norman i've been a resident of cool valley for over 20 years and here to support the continuance of

divisadero seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner vice president richards. >> move to continue items 1, 2a and 3 and 4 as specified thank you, commissioner commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to a there is a motion that has been seconded to continue items proposed commissioner fong commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar excuse me. commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president hillis so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and from the acting zoning administrator will weigh in on item 2 b. >> yes. i'll continue 2 b to the date specified as well. >> thank you acting zoning administrator commissioners, that places you under your your consent calendar on item 5

may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. item 5 case 1946 32nd avenue discretionary review there are no speaker cards. >> any members of the public want to remove this item from the consent calendar seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner vice president richards. >> move to approve. >> second. >> on that motion to take dr and approve the project were commissioner fong commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president hillis thank you on that motion

that motion carries commissioners, that item passes 6 to zero and commissioners, that places you under your under commission matters. 6 consideration of items proposed for continuance. for draft minutes for march 9, 2017. >> any public comment on item the draft minutes seeing none, public comment is closed. oh, georgia. >> sorry good afternoon georgia swedish i want to comment please on the minutes for 15 ab for march 9 the chavez street on the project i don't think what is listed next to my name is what i said to totally accurate i read them this morning i want have written 00 mr. ionin i think i said decision and affordability that's the point of my statement they hearing he request you,

please change to demolition and the affordability. >> seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner vice president richards i accept the changes from ms. swedish and move to approve on that a motion to adopt the minutes as amended commissioner fong commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president hillis commissioners, that item passes unanimously 6 to zero >> commissioners 7 commission comments and questions. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i guess this comes under the column of data is power i think this is actually changes the narrative i'll leave that up to you you've been bombard and bombard how we're slow we are and blah, blah we have a long

presentation on march 2, 32 page slide on page 27 i'll call people out specifically in the audience the zoning we can entitle one and 40 thousand units one 40, 000 that's a hell of a lot unit the narrative wears blue cross obstructing and none will get anything done the zoning without changes to solve the housing crisis if people get their land entitle and take advantage of the zoning they have i think this is the real question why this is not happening, and, secondly, since 1985 there have been one hundred thousand dollars unit capacity in up zoning the notion we've down zoned in the 80's and paying for all the stuff the

narrative sob fair i ask staff to w450k what happened in the 50's and 70's and potentially in the 70's to get there i want to correct the record a couple of other things this morning and. >> yes. business times a note saying represent have fallen 9 percent in the city it looks like increased supply has help for supply and demand a good narrative, however, in today's chronicle talked about the net out flow of the population the demand is going down to increase the supply and demand so you, you building that supply and demand are working and one last thing we talked about the sham evictions in the paper on tuesday in the column one in

four no-fault evictions is fraudulent no enforcement for rental we have a complaint based system not working so for all the unit those affordable housing units we're creating we are in a housing balance getting rid of of them by renting them out on airbnb something need to be done about that. >> thank you 0 commissioner moore. >> the the 2000 consensus of housing status there's a population of 8 hundred and 50 thousand plus people the total housing units in needing three hundred and 76 plus out of those units occupied housing units were listed in the

needing 2010 and unoccupied were counted i want an update on the data consensus. >> thank you commissioner moore. >> no, i was referring to - >> no public comment is coming next. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> one comment ann as a followup on commissioner moore when i starred on the commission there was a 1r5b9 unit between the apartment and spur a refresher on that would be a good idea. >> thank you commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to move on to the next item 8 start time. >> i asked this put on

calendar to get to your opinions on the start t to.

>> if we go past dinner we can have dinner in the back. >> i run back there and eat that sandwich and come back here. >> commissioner fong. >> we bounsdz back and forth with the start times at 1 o'clock and i advocate the other way of starting earlier and have a 8:30 start i think we'll be out of here you mention at a descent hour not too many mint runs but i know we'll be sharper in the morning. give you a little bit of background back in the day maybe not too long ago the commission started at 1:30 and very common that the commission hearing go to 8 o'clock p.m. and

commissioner moore as well as 2 would be better to move the start time up to the noon hour so it commission hours will not drag into the evening and midnight hours, however, you seem feel free to take a new start time if you think that will help you keep quorum >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i guess a question for my fellow commissioners to keep a quorum is hard we have people fall off and to commissioner president fong point if we start earlier for folks that have obligations to attend to. >> commissioner johnson. >> i'll agree with that, i and other commissioners feel they block off their day and get things done in the morning if we

start earlier that would be helpful. >> it is a matter for staff and for project sponsor, please. >> and can people make it i mean germany try to go my employer gives me the afternoon free but not necessarily go to my office in the morning and have work obligations it is tough for me to do earlier. >> commissioner moore. >> i could go either way i think the most important things to hit the sweetheart for a maximum amount of time for the dr situation and often situations that some days by accident we're four and people are asking to attend to their matters that's a fair question they know what times we're in so whatever the sweet spot i'm supportive of those who have families and obligations but it

is difficult i can go. >> commissioner koppel. >> yes. considered i'm a i'm flexibility i go into the office at a normal time on thursday more than these and have the freedom to come here whenever he need to so i would say that dock the twitter and facebook to keep the people in the office to bring the food to them this is nice to get outside and take a break and get more stuff done if we're able to kind of bring the food to us but i still am flexible so none of that - >> commissioner fong. >> may i subject going one month solid a later start and

one month at an earlier start and . >> whereon more thing if i may excuse me - commissioner moore one thing i hear from members of the public that we start earlier and that you know their item if they're interested in their preference to have that after work so they can come one more thing for consideration. >> commissioner moore. >> i need to remind the commission we don't have a budget so i've been pac my own food you know. >> commissioner johnson. >> on the pack your lunch with the commission with multiple hours in the commission ones a month other commissions that don't meet as neither here nor there as long as we meet so i

wanted to mention i don't purposing forgot the public in in any comments who can make the hearings i've heard those people really prefer things later so have at a later date work during the day the challenge we have so many things who will care about what we can't have the agenda after a work day we'll be like drs who work the night shift here until 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning i said that knowing that i'm caring about you know the public being able to engage in the hearing but being worked out realistic what can realistically happen after the workday. >> thank you director rahaim. >> a couple of thoughts for the staff perspective staff can

work either way generally a meeting for earlier so the only question i have for jonas do you need time to change the notices for notification purposes. >> no there is no important time it is up to the commission it is an agenda well in advance of what the minimum requirement is and for example, we regularly schedule joint hearings a week in advance not - yeah, the same room and same location additional notification is not required. >> commissioner fong a question for the director and putting on my responsible business hat if we go late is that over time. >> the way the rules yes, it is overtime in the form of half

time. >> okay. >> so commissioner moore. >> i'm sensitive to staff because i asked many by statistical purposes where do you live they are not all living in the city so the commute time the latter it goes the harder it gets one thought here. >> it is good food for thought we often are here and see you know let's get here and see where we go and come up with a thoughtfully proposal thank you for your input. >> okay commissioners commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to to departs item 9 director's announcements. >> good evening, commissioners just a thought about the data that was mentioned we'll see if

there is data available the consensus is only once per decade do the america community survey that relies that looks at the estimate, if you will, of the data that estimate by the way, is of the population 8 hundred and 37 i don't know if we have the data opted out or non-opted out we'll check on that and we know the unoccupied units that are being worked out rented people have a doubt what the defined as unoccupied we need to look at as well but try to get that information for you that concludes my presentation. >> item >> item events at the board of supervisors, board of appeals

and historic preservation commission. >> at this week's land use committee considered supervisor tang for the in lui for privately owned public space at the intercontinental hotel for light and air and vic victoria manolo draves park the commission recommend approval of the ordinance on november 17th of last year at that time, you recommended two changes that were incorporated by supervisor kim and your requested notifications modification that any impact fees due to the city for as a result of closing the open space will be paid and the tightens up the finding to avoid south future precedent for others popos requirement at the this week's committee hearing supervisor kim modified the ordinance to increase the in-lieu fee to include

mentioning and the committee recommended approval of the approval of the minutes and last was a hearing on the transportation demand management ordinance as long as the tdm program this item was passed unanimously by the board of supervisors in february and become effective this week the hearing its topics was called by supervisor yee and supervisor fewer for the methodology for the tdm memo of options at the hearing no public comment supervisor yee had comments regarding the point assignment with child friendly housing but appreciated the points to be updated over time and supervisor fewer raised the shuttle bus service measure and the focus on vehicles miles traveled reduction as opposed to to other city policy goals the committee members voted to file at the full board calle quarto passed the second reading and the last item was the environmental appeal for the project on folsom

street the board continued this item again to the april 18, 2017, and as far no new introductions thanks. >> no questions commissioners the board of appeals did meet but no report at the historic preservation commission didn't meet yesterday commissioners that commissioners, that places you under your general comment not to exceed 15 minutes. to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission up to three minutes. i have two speaker cards. >> (calling names). >> hi laura clark doing a

regular weekly presentation of an article in the literature a question to address the claim that because we have so many available in our current zoning that means it is not necessary to do a lot more i think that is a little bit crazy we need to up zone massive areas of the city we can't continue to allow development to only took place in historically red lined district for minority and low income and not ask the single-family homes to shoulder some of the burden everyone need to be developing across the city equally in every community this article is a review two actually both do a great review of research about how chronic underbuilding of housing damages our economy but the national economy we have the opportunity to have an impact on people's

lives across the country and that if we condition to squandered that we're doing permanent damage to the united states and enough damage is being worked out done that is time to open the gates and speed up this process 18 months of eirs have something you guys can speed up those up we know the planning department is 12 members understaffed and no justification for that i think we know thanks or things that can speed up the process and conditional use things this body can do to speed up and if you allow community to continue to speak the ideal of a magic mightal project that will pleas everyone will chronically not address the desperate needs

rents are only down 9 percent a long, long way to be accountability please speed up this process. >> thank you, ms. clark. >> good afternoon. i'm here to talk about 317 b-7 contrary to our policies and should be eliminated from the code because it causes a loose of housing i don't think you can densify and lose affordable housing here's a project you'll not see the dr staff approved it is 0 on jersey street can i have the overhead, please? okay too unit there they are the first floor say like two or

three bedrooms i don't know that is what it will be leadership and kitchen standard thing going on and here's the second unit upstairs you see the same late and in the new one which is four bedrooms here's where they're putting the unit they're saving there 317 in the crawl space i guess and here's the crawl spates as it is now and here's the new unit right there behind the new garage and i think that makes my point i'm not going to talk about the change it is a standard ventriclar noah valley unit building without a garage but here it is from the rescinding there it is vernacular and there is it what

it will be right there here's the back of it with another issue save that for another day under the 317 b-7 none filed the dr the staff decided this is okay. if you talk about the density rh-2 like last week and you created a units that are basically two bedroom unit your losing this and gaining that i'm not blaming anyone it is a point about 317 b-7 something that has a reason to be in the code people want to stay in the unit but i don't know that is used that way but to make a big how house and keep the market value unit that didn't hit the market

here's the minutes and present the board of directors from last week he missed that director rahaim but attached are two earlier director's report from previous years about the number of units i guess it should go to commissioner vice president richards he made a talk about it today from 14 and foreclosure. >> commissioners it that an alteration. >> an alteration that was supposedly i've not seen the demo cap. >> pardon me. >> the demo. >> right under the cu an alteration here's the first page. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioners good afternoon mary gallagher to the planning on speaking in public comment so my thoughts are scattered i was picking up on what it commissioner vice president richards said one and 40

thousand units that is a good thing to keep in mind when you look at the different components in which you consider housing and affordable housing it really struck me in our inclusionary housing testimony last week the speaker said we're talking about peanuts very small number of unit relative to the demand olsen lee mentions that there are a large sort of pie that the city has to forward housing and inclusionary housing is one small component of that the project like you'll have on folsom a large component of that very important but those to things are not alone not enough we have to do more but the other component that none has been talking about in my mind and i know you talk about it but not lead to mo'

magic the lose of existing housing if case after case many of them they run have not planning department and you know you've got an affordable 8 hundred square feet unit it turns into a 16 hundred square feet unit or more common 8 thousand square feet unit you're taking away affordable housing and then replace it someplace else i'm not understanding from the city emphasis on affordable housing is should be then why are we taking away so many affordable housing units and not just unit we have tenant in the building and somebody come forward with a project you know that person will leave one way or another just as a sidebar and the eviction last week, i hope you have an opportunity he did

it an his pdf dissertation a different set of circumstances but resonates one of the things he independence evictions that causes someone to leave not judge the perimeters this is happening in san francisco not just the ellis acted or owner move in i have a project what do you think will happen to you matthew desmond said that a lot of people leaving their hours end up leaving every house and end up homeless sorry scattered remarks but thank you thank you, ms. gallagher leslie. >> hi, i'm leslie with the

human rights committee i'm here to talk about the case of carl jensen he was a 93-year-old living in a house in noah valley for 63 years and a separate in town came here to demolish the unit telling you that none lived there and had somebody bang an carlos door he had to be out in 3 days his neighbor called human rights and said this is an illegal eviction we fought to protect him and talked him to come to talk a few days later found dead in his apartment we see this is as elder abuse they have no where to go and causes problems so we're here to ask one that you don't approve the

definition of that housing project and two we need planning to have a policy that protects seniors we're asking you to not approve especially the demolition with renderings and specifically enhabit by seniors and also want to talking about seniors canada her unit at 670 page was leonardo da vinci in 2003 and through - we'll stop the condo conversions of that project and she's in the hospital since her eviction one hundred-year-old we need the city to protect housing.

>> is there any additional public comment? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner vice president richards. >> two points one condo conversion of 5 units or more come to this we'll be here when this happens, and, secondly, the apartment the other side of story paul harry's i met with corey smith and talked about the 46 thousand units and 40 thoughts not constructed and got it down to the 15 thousand units i understand the apartment are asking the development for entitlement why are they not building there is a large story and not southern california the problem i want to say good work. >> thank you very much jonas move to the first item commissioners, that places you under your you're special

discretionary review calendar for item, 2070 folsom street a discretionary review. >> good afternoon, commissioners kimberly planning department staff you have before you a request for discretionary review of the new construction of an 8 story 85 mucked with 100 percent one and 27 housing units over ground floor and childcare community service and cafe services the project will provide housing also to be transitional youths and feature a promenade to the packer way under construction no auto parking is proposed this project is now affordable housing project authorization in planning code section 317 that allows for administration review

similar to a land use and transportation more affordable housing projects under the affordable housing authorization the project is seeking exceptions to planning code requirement for rear yard usable open space for residential dwelling units and exposure and a ground floor and off-street parking and the calculations for maximum height from the curve as part of administrative process the building permit application that is on file with the department is subject to the thirty day neighborhood notification in section 312 the public may request discretionary review a request was timing filed on february 10th, and part the project entitlement of zoning map was approved by the board of supervisors in november of 2016 the project site was rezoned and

height reclassified from a public and 40-x height and bulk district to the urban mixed use and 85 x height and bulk district the planning commission reviewed and approved the zoning map amendment held on january 2016 the issues that the dr requester has cited in the dr application the first issue was lack of off-street parking they find this to be consistent with the planning code and general plan and the transit first policy per the planning code the project didn't require to provide off-street parking in the urban mixed use zoning district located in a transit rich neighborhood and providing ample bicycle parking spaces by the planning code and the second issue raised is flooding and stormwater run off the project

is subject to the san francisco stormwater management requirement and must repair a stormwater plan demonstrating adherence to the performance measures as outlined in the stormwater guidelines including a reduction in total volume and peak flow rate for combined sewer systems or stormwater treatment for areas responsibility for this review and approval of the stormwater control plan lies with the san francisco public utilities commission watering and urban water shed without the public utilities commission approval for the sdrrment plan a site or building permit a can't be issued the third issue raised was crime the police department and the department of health are the responsible agencies for concerns related to crime and the 10 cities that are located

in the subject area the department finds the new development will provide more resident not area with more eyes and ears and helps to create a safer environment in the neighborhood. the fourth issue raised is the height the department finds the property height of 85 feet is consistent with the new designation of height and bulk district as reviewed and reclassified in 2016 as far as the alternatives for the project the department is in support as proposed and found the overall massing and scale to be appropriate the projected project provides a promenade and in addition the project provides active ground floor and with a high interior material

since the application was submitted all over the place issues were brought to the dmdz attention by the dr requester regarding notification of the neighborhood notification for the planning code 312 the dr requester cited concerns not all the floor plans were in the packet the floor plans are node required to be included in the 312 notification materials only basic and elevation and site plans however, samples floor plan was included by the project sponsor a second concern about the mailing as the dr requester reviewed the dockets that there was significant amount of mail returned staff determined from the one and 50 foot radius of owners and occupant only 8 out

of notices were returned constituting 16 percent therefore that was dual noted and a remodification is not required another one the environmental document issued the department has determined that will not result in adverse effects that were more significant in the eastern neighborhoodsville review therefore the environmental review is not - guidelines section - and the california public code 20 one 045 in summary the proposed project is reviewed under the planning code 317 as 9 and the rear yard usable between and ground floor by off-street parking loading

and the maximum allowable height the parking have consistent with the rezoning district and 85 height and bulk district the project didn't provide required to provide off-street parking and the project will include a stormwater control plan as needed for the san francisco public works requirement and this project is providing 100 percent affordable housing and transition at youth housing commissioners the department recommendations you don't take dr and approve as prepared i'm available to answer any questions >> dr requester a 5 minute

presentation. >> my name is - i'm not against the affordable housing at all i'm very much for that i was an artist and young person decided to be an artist you heard the phrase starving artist i was not as savoring starving as i thought i did starve but have a place providing homes for the homeless was actually got you was put out and homeless i'm not a snub and here for i believe very, very strong reasons very good reasons to on to the building of this particular

housing project at this location i support affordable housing i don't think that one and 27 unit building should be built in the middle of a flowed zone so of the rubbish current can't imagine why money wants to bring more people into the environment i'd like to tell you first, i need to correct a little bit of my misunderstanding about the status of property the property was taken over in 1992 it the city owned and i assume that it was sold to the private developer in 2015 the original owner was john and he had his center village work or center excuse me - his center waterworks i got this from the san francisco planning

commission sfgovtv.org so it has a long history particular it is office of management and budget a part of land and the park that the building is now on the - to the north of it is actually a part of john's property originally and still clarified as having a well as a location of a well, we had a little bit more time to do investigation thank you for your continuance i'm concerned because the proposal to build this really at all heavy concrete steel building on unconsolidated soil no studies the environmental review was bypassed i see no evidence on the record - let me

give you the right phrase - of a stormwater plan there's no evidence on the record of a ceqa seismic hazard study as well as no environmental review i'm just not as optimistic as some people are you know i'm concerned i personally experience december 11, 2014, the flood that night was 3 o'clock most people dealt with the aftermath at the 3 o'clock i was in the driving down 16th street to the sfwrshgs of 16th street and folsom have a jacked up jeep full lip with big tires we were going down 16th street in a little old lady if pasadena we were going to the intersection of 16th street and folsom the

waters r were to high i couldn't get into the intersection the water was coming over my hood cars were floating in the water a dumpster to the left 0 heading down folsom towards soma they were rushing and so high i was amazed i didn't have a camera you can only take my word i was in the car with paul and we got to the intersection and we canvassed the neighborhood to see how deep and far it will extend and actually got up to 14 that was better but a situation in that area where it is - this is the worst flood i've seen in the area i've been there for years i'm concerned that none of

the studies were done you don't know do you know the state of the area what is the potential? how can you know that isn't safety supposed to be the most important consideration i'm more affordable housing thank you safety first thank you for your time >> thank you very much at this time we take public comment from members of the public who are in support of dr and opposed to the project any public comment. >> we have two. >> now is the time. >> put it down. >> sir leave it there. >> yes. my name is paul mccarthy live in a studio apartment on folsom i live with two folks over 65 this is not it is a probably a 5

hundred square feet apartment i want to comment on the flooding problem in the area there are four areas in san francisco that have this localize storm sewer local problem on 17 folsom and on an avenue and there are two more at the this is a very local listed problem it seems we're at the bottom of this storm system and when - when there is a heavy rain it overflows in the localized area from 14 to 18 street along folsom and 7th street to shoot well, two blocks to the east or west you're completely out of flooding zone those localized flooding zones are way less than a percent of san francisco

a flooding department is talking about the flooding controls this is a general problem it is a unique problem to this neighborhood and 3 other neighborhoods and this is - diminishes that project from many others the projects will cause problems i think we can avoid putting them in the unique places that will cause more problem the other problem the eliminations of open space was rezoned last year but before that it was public space and clarified as public space in the environmental study from 2004 to 8 once you go down the road using public space for those projects then eventually result the eliminations of public space it is not necessary to use public space for projects like this there is any number of locations

for the project could be a couple of blocks away that can avoid those problems thank you, mr. mccartney. >> additional pshgdz in support of dr. >> hi, i'm sheldon good afternoon a good movie like citizen cane will see this development and during the movie and revisit it towards the end for my presentation i'll use this november 2016 and hillary clinton has 3 million more importantly votes than donald trump because of procedural roots donald trump wins the election because he has more electrical votes keep this scene in mind this is an analogy

towards the end of the presentation i'm not here to block housing development america we have freedom of choice for people affected by decisions i agree that housing in san francisco should be fast tracked but the proposed 00 development on 2070 folsom street with the lack of transparency we did complain the records of fire department i guess that we were told earlier that the floor plans are not required so not a major point but through was a missing 1ri7b9 report in the documents which should have had a diagram of one and 50 foot radius within that and corner of 16th street and folsom is the star hotel and this is the sro hotel so the residents there are long term

resident not a day to day basis like downtown hotels some of the residents there 10 to 20 years i'll refer you to the opening scene the winner is by the candidate getting the electoral votes rather than the popular votes you apply in my proposed opening scene the owners living with the one and 50 foot radius is to the electrical votes in you want to count the number of residents to the star hotel this is like the popular votes they've been disfranchised so i oppose this project because i believe that 0 you should renotice all the residents of this all-star hotel and resend

the notice so i believe this decision of choice is in our hands i hope you make the right choice. >> is there any additional public comment? >> in support of dr. >> seeing none, project sponsor an opportunity for a 5 minute presentation. >> sfgovtv go to the computer please. >> good afternoon, commissioners elaine if the mission development agency thank you for the opportunity to respond to the discretionary review and highlight the benefits meta with the chinatown are sponsors the project

property on 2070 folsom street my organization meta has a 40 year history serving the latino and affordable housing as part of our work our partner crnc provides housing for low income adults and seniors in san francisco commissioners may remember our team came before you last july of a zoning to umu and height to 85 feet thank you for your unanimous changes that were approved by the board of supervisors last november 2070 folsom street anchored by apartment most of unit will be family-sized with two or three bedrooms and earmarking for at age and 18 to 24 youth are in

danger of homelessness and included the toddler care and preschool and all services will be available to the community largely 2070 folsom street will offer look folsom and in the building planning to include the public restrooms and folsom at the corner of the building facing the park will have a cafe that will compliment the park our architects have created a design that maximize the density and offers opportunities for community we arrived at the design avenue extensive community engagement our team started with the outreach back in fall of 2015 and over the course 2016 we held 3 community workshops with over 100 percent people participating and have held 8 focus discussions with the stakeholders that are listed here in june and july of last year

we outreached to neighborhood businesses and rodent over one hundred wrote letters in support of projects in keeping with the city transit 12070 folsom street is devoted to communities the city didn't require parking at the site in fact, of, in fact, we included parking we'll have to eliminate the ground floor uses and building parking will be at the cost of more affordable units this is walker's paradise with bikes on folsom and 7th street this is a truly - and served by the multiple muni bus lanes on folsom and 16th street we provide car share on folsom street outside the lobby door and further we'll have one and 8 bicycle parking spaces for staff

and outdoor 24 spaces to serve the visitors the dr requester rightly pointed out this block didn't feel safe if this project is approved that will change the project will bring more traffic and came out activities to the block a transparent storefront along folsom and shout out well, we everything the easy on the street will deter crime we'll be here looking at the cameras and addressing concerns the difficulty of flooding was in the dr request and the workshops the 2070 folsom street was part of solution by replacing the impermeable landscaping that will capture thirty percent the stormwater instead of dumping it into the drains the dr requester observe to the proposed height

the 85 heat was approved by this commission and the board of supervisors and the building design meets the california building code i'd like to close with a word of a lady i've been organizing for years and at the down weather can't witness this with the 100 percent affordable housing when we have - 2070 folsom street as a local resident and mother i need for me and my two sons the community can't wait no more we've been waiting the project sponsor and i are available for questions open up for public comment in support of project and opposed to the dr any public comment.

>> good morning, commissioners my name is marilyn i'm a community organizer with people organizing for economic rights i was part of many local organizations that have fought for a decade we've organized to get this site for the community we have we believe that public land and community hands and some of the organizations that evolved were myself and delores and a collaborative jamestown who worked with the community and people that really support this project and we're excited to see this there is going to be a park that will hopefully open up at the end of may that is open space for the community we're working with goes to make sure we have access and one plus units of affordable housing i was part of having different events and conversation at the

actual parking lot when we were envisioning what can be possible they invited the community members and parent talk about their excitement and looking forward to this being worked out built and part of engagement team that talks to people and the locations he went to john o'connor school and the mission clinic on shout out well, for community input and received a lot of feedback of excitement for the project and the increase in more affordable housing a lot of folks 90ss norris and are ready to apply an organization i'll be sharing the ground floor with different organizations providing services i want to see this move forward so the community that we work with that needs access to those can be present and have access and enjoy the open space and the area with us and yeah, really excited thank you.

>> thank you very much additional public comment in support of project and opposed to the dr? >> good afternoon, commissioners ramming are i'm a resident of the - they've used did discretionary review all the things that the community has to make the project better i support the process we had the opportunity to speak up about the project i don't understand why they're not precipitating and there was a lot of information about this activity but i supported the community made the project better at this time after all this community meetings for more than 10 years in the eastern neighborhoods plan we were looking at those affordable housing beyond why they're not at the beginning we

need to do more and a lot of families couldn't come i ask the commissioners to the side the pictures about the latino woman about the living conditions affordable for the health department and want to do that and may this project affordable housing development happen as quickly as possible thank you. >> thank you, sir is there any additional public comment? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. dr requester you have the opportunity for a 2 minute rebuttal. >> i really do appreciate the

sentiment of affordable housing truly i was young and probably considered a transition youth none of this program was in place and yeah, it is a from sentiment but i'm still concerned about the location i really believe that we need to solve the stormwater run off sewage problem before we bring more people in there 0 my feeling is that i mean i've spent time doing research i have no education but you see that possible that build a small like a water treatment facility in the area? to at least what the water comes up to the surface not sum the water stinks we got out of the car and walked down 16th street the consistency is weird the next day the water

sits inside everything was covered are slime and when the city came in by the way, they got sued with the reserved lawsuit they paid attention and not cleaned up before when the city came in they cleaned up the roads and sidewalks nothing that is anything but horizontal the people live in this basically, we traveled through that this is not just an issue for only our neighborhood anyone that comes into the neighborhood none that travels through we're all maybe it is diluted sewage water but still sewage water we need to get this situations there control with the water overflow before we bring more

people in. >> property owner an opportunity for a two minute rebuttal. >> thank you in association with the - we've been opportunity to work with chinatown crnc and meta as evidenced by the huffs of letters in support that are included in our package this project a welcomed and needed addition to the mission to provide homes for those franchised families and in our community for individual and families in our community that are often underserved and under supported as this staff report is thorough i'll not present the details but i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> before you thank you. >> okay open up to commissioners in deliberation. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> so moved. >> we have a discretion process

and anyone questions the permit and participated in that process and shouldn't deny any citizen this is 100 percent affordable and put this on the agenda it is that important a stormwater run off issue reminded me of the school on porter street they talked about the fact that was stormwater and flooding and a school there we have a worse problem i read the environmental review i went for if project the exemption from review and as i read is this section on ohio director nolan cd ev h and ii, apply and i think that even

given the situation in the low lying area that has been looked and understand as well as the project sponsor made a good point the project site a a asphalt parking lot and 100 percent of the water rotundas off and 70 percent in the future will run off and it is a better situation than now the other item that i take seriously is there was a suspecting process of implementing a sewer profit a multi dollar an infrastructure to make sure reliable and seismically safe and included the development in the eastern neighborhoods and their connection to other treatment plants i understand that the 10 c results in the construction of

new stormwater drainage facilities or expansion that causes - this projectile i think will help out the situation it is made with this in mind so there will be flooding and with work that the parking lot versus this project and the issue of flooding is being worked out recreated addressing in this project the crime issue that was brought up in the eir when you have a chain-linked fence with nobody looking at on the street more break ins and crime when more eyes and ears on the street crime goes down that will happen here if it doesn't i'll be surprised the other issue on parking a slew of analysis in the eastern neighborhoods eir on

parking and transit and the mitigation factors that is on page sorry - >> 26, 25, 26 and 27 the generation demand for additional trips people living here if we provide parking we'll losing more traffic than not endiscussing within a quarter of a mile several transit including muni and 55 we get up here every week and don't want the people that work in the service industry and other industries potentially the band of residents can work but the community from all the places for the jobs this is the right place to put people that actually that complete the economic circle in the city all

types of workers and income this is low income probably people in the project that will if not here be evicted or commuting this is the right place for projects right on the transit hubs it is anticipated that the vast majority of the residents will be using transit and model cars not commuting out to ann took but i don't see any changes to the project. >> commissioner moore. >> it is the ideal situations of two components the public park under the supervision and jurisdiction of rec and park together with the housing side that indeed could very well afford an up zoning because of cars on the south side and

nothing being worked out shadowed there is a fact that the city is investing into a size arc park is unique and we're able to deliver a housing project 100 percent affordable for potential pros no more win-win situations for all the other aspect two architectural firms that are well-versed in designing affordable housing for a high quality building at this park that was avoided by rec and park and the design of the project the arts commission specific design i was on the specific design tooth brush the appropriateness of design including how the building responds to the park at the site of exposure of the building that's not one element of this

particular design including the technical elements basically, we're trying to talk about commissioner vice president richards that have not been looked at and in page on turn that look at technical feasibility and the reality of building a quality building the up zoning and the work for this the city didn't light heartily and i don't care if it gets flooded requiring a park is an investment we said the work that take are these this california together with a sited that can be developed with the 100 percent affordable housing for us should be taking two minutes to approve it we had today earlier we were basically continually sitting in the crossfire of what we're not doing here we have the opportunity and with all respect

to the dr i don't find the concerns being worked out subsequent no insurance and park nothing that under writes a project that floats particularly not if it is a sewer that's a public health problem and i'm sure that happened in 2014 a number of years ago the department of public works has addressed and continuing will bring it up to this impartial with this investment i'm making a motion to approve not take dr and approve second. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, there is a motion that has been seconded no take dr commissioner fong commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner moore commissioner vice president

richards and commissioner president hillis so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and commissioners now we'll go to your regular calendar item 12 pier 70 mised-use district project. >> good afternoon rich the city i'm joined by departments as well as dennis from the mayor's office of economic workforce development the the item before you is a informational presentation on the upcoming mucked that is undergoing the informational presentation will focus on the pier 70 document which was sent to the commission in 2017 to remind the commission the pier 70 mised-use district project between the port of san francisco and the developer of

the city california - it tips to redevelop 28 acres of pier 70 and initiate the standards for a multi phase on a site and two adjacent parcels along illinois street the project will have market-rate and affordable uses and commercial uses and retail like industrial and shoreline and infrastructure and public space the project will include transportation and circulation and new you wanted i upgraded utility and geotechnical public space the pier 70 mucked is located within the union iron works historic district as part of proximately 3 historic buildings will be rehabbed for new uses the design further document has a characteristic and reminder r reminded for public realm on the

35 pier 70 project site the dodd establishes the design guidelines and the dodd has land use and streets and streetscapes and parking and loading and lighting signage and art to provide additional information for the dodi want to invite forest city and from the urban studios that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions. >> thank you, mr. sucray. >> commissioners sarah i am actually just going to do a little bit of context setting thank you so our office the office of economic workforce development the planning department, the port and a number of other agencies have expense working closely on the bay front stainability you've here that a

couple of months ago and we wanted to bring it back to the whole everything we're looking at with the pier 70 project is the view we're trying to view other projects with. >> out of those there our 9 projects overall stretching from mission creek to candle stick .4 are approved the wirings arena and the hunters point and the candle stick point add and the executive park of the next 5 we'll be bringing to you those joint agencies over the next pier 70 will be the first, it is a vocal point how we'll be having this and insuring to get the most we can out of projects coming before us one the key topics we've heard at previous hearings an pier 70 at the commission transportation so we'll talk about that 0 through the presentation

it really is the number one, issue we hear when he go out to the community there is a consistent effort on behalf of the city to make sure that whatever we do with the project not only boerlts and supports the plan improvements the city has underway it makes them bigger we are working on negotiation framework those will help us don't more to use their transportation stop signs to booster the neighborhood to look at bus lines to increase the services and week look at key bike and pedestrian structures to competing complete neighborhood we'll get back to pier 70. >> thank you, ms. dennis. >> good afternoon commissioner commissioner president hillis so i will we've been if you guys are a little bit behind us we've been asked to be expeditious i'll precede with the fishness

the context of pier 70 includes areas not part of our site the port divided through the master planning process which you see here this was the plan they came out of a process within 2010 it was all commercial including a short building that is part of plan and for context most of sites is staying as historic buildings maritime use and new streets or parks actually can't read this is the about 25 percent of all pier 70 will have new development on that we've talked about this before but planning process has been 10 years for pier 70 including the ports 3 year process and our involvement since 2011 we hope to be wrapping up the entitlements this summer and beginning to work on

construction hopefully to actually see construction happening next year had an extensive outreach process including the events at the site and thousands of people involved and along the way we went to the ballot in 2014 approving was passed with the authorization for the alignment increased one paired with the improvement of the plan includes the public benefits that are outlined here and continue to talk about we'll be back in may to talk about the development agreement so before we get to the design guidelines (laughter) will talk about that the height limit are varied on the northern and southern boundary 90 feet max the parcels that are closest to the existing dog patch they didn't get rezoned stayed as 65 feet because of typography it is

pretty much from potrero that was something that was obviously a key piece of progress on the ballot measure where we looked at what was the was there an impact views from potrero hill we did simulations we show here you can see it is actually minimal at all if you can see that depending on where you are on the hill the overall of the project mixed use it is centered after active parks with the feel and the some of the land uses the parcels are designated as a single use so commercial use adjacent to the ship repair certain sites around

the parks that what only be residential and along the southern boundary of the site as you might find in south of market has a flexible land use either residential or commercial but being able to respond to what happens on the future on the southern adjacent site the former power plants and the pg&e substation at the corner of illinois in terms of overall program we talk in the eir talks about this as well the 28 acre that forest city has the development opportunity and with the infrastructure and an additional 7 acres adjacent to illinois street that are core property pg&e property but including the master plan we talked about those plans separately but as you can see both of them have a mix of residential-commercial historic

rehabilitation and a category with the your staff we came up with radical retail, arts and industrial a catchall facets not like the industrial center across the street when we looked at the opportunity to build a new waterfront park in san francisco and we looked at what else is happening in the city spaces that exist and are designed we thought there was a unique opportunity both because of history of the site you looked at usage patterns historically you'll find there were not one big open space. >> a series off smaller open spaces this was functionally related they were adjacent to so our designer landscape designer you may know from the high line in new york city came up with a concept of similar using that

same structure to orient the design the scale and the adjacency of the open spaces to the buildings that are next to them and the yellow you see we've through the lowell high school plan about half of the site really is pedestrian it is either pedestrian only assets or pedestrian privatized assess to there is only 1 single street seethe that is yellow which is it will provide opportunity for a dynamic open space and as i said pedestrian friendly environment in terms of parks one of the ways that we used to describe to folks is it it is like 5 or 6 parks they have their own scale of character - to sort of give

a comparison to places that we are aware of here in san francisco like if you took the playground at delores park and the frontage around the embarcadero in front of the the ferry building and replicated that line rincon green the picnic area at the south park if you took all of those and put them on the site that's the character and scale that is 9 acres and the mixture of industrial grassy areas like south park framed by both buildings one question we've gotten i know that came up in the conversation we had with you in february

about recreation and active recreation i think you guys experienced what project on the waterfront they thought that is worst pointing out the majority of the open space a subject to the state regulatory overlay that restricts the types of uses that you can have in that open space like a playground can't be done for reasons beyond our control we found a way to be able to include that in the overall district adjacent to irish hill so with that, i'm going to turn it over to (laughter) from site lab to talk about the dsls we've worked on with our team oewd and the port we're excited about. >> good afternoon. thank you commissioners so i'm talking about the dodd you have a - this is a great

rodent to design the guidelines for this at a key location on the waterfront and as a historic district so when we developed it we thought about what are the key components that make that relationship to the historic district this is much the power of pier 70 thinking about how the site is integrate with the neighborhood the level of architectural quality you don't get in design guidelines and the pedestrian experience in addition to the mix of uses that jack described and the public benefit it he'll talk about more we think about the design guidelines as an experience driven that is a big part of that really touches on the

public realm and architectural and streetscape and so the d-4-d is typical in the categories and really the guiding document for how this vision is implemented the key topic you know first is land use framework jack talked about the overall mix of uses the d-4-d goes further to specify the buildings dedicated to believe 12 and a new building at the waterfront dedicated to the retail and light industrial and locations on the ground that have to focus are required to have another focus around that marilyn and open space on the waterfront the open space jack talked about and the d-4-d went further to give the density to the spaces the

programmatic - the protection to the remnant of irish hill the presentation of a playground all the components. >> how many more minutes do you need. >> he probably need 5 minutes. >> okay we'll go as fast as we can let's see you know this to us what is important to have a variety of different street conditions at the pedestrian focus pedestrian and bicycle focus i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> particularly we're trying to balance creating a good residential neighborhood and commercial you know mixed use with a lot of attendance to how you design the vegetation and things like that that's what did d-4-d has done great work with

the port and planning and preservation experts to get to a place everybody is happy hopefully and transportation that is a big topic the team can talk about that more in terms of scomboirldz make sure that really the pedestrian priority and state of is a safety for creating a path for muni to serve this site from the architectural framework a big part of d-4-d and so a lot of emphasis on the ground floor transparent and character and uses on the ground floor but building variety for this document it is not a one-size-fits-all requirement it is about building site buildings with the conditions and the adjacent at the water is it across from the historic building a large commercial building or a smaller residential so there is a whole

array of requirement there are specific to that with overall an emphasis on materiality and things like there has to be quality in the shadows we did a lot of research different a examples to understand how to create a great place out of this i'm not going to go through all of those but the renderings to give examples of the different conditions that are required in the d-4-d so everything from the detecting the sea level rise and maintaining the historic building to you know where streets can go the public plaza and the streetscape and references the historic buildings and also i'm sure jack will answer questions but all the public benefits that are part of making this place transportation and support for local hire and things like that at the waterfront a couple of examples we spent a

lot of time both internally and working with really dedicated representatives in the neighborhood to get to a place that i think the vision is fulfilled from the uses and the transparency to the use of arts and artifacts this is an operation that is designed to reflect the scale and the industrial quality of the district and, of course, just the fact that making this waterfront available to the public again preservation and the ability to get out there in the water so just to summarize it does connect all the pieces coming together and it is a been a really in depth process we're proud how this carries this project forward in the future. >> so since we're short on

time we'll skip straight to the projects approval to give the commission the key documents coming forward as part of project we'll be obviously the commission will see side environmental impact report and the design for document there will be a development agreement infrastructure and this position and development agreement will be reviewed by the because of the board of supervisors in terms of new construction the basic from the using documents like the d-4-d the eir, the sud and the planning code the developer will submit the permit application to the city and basically forwarded to the planning department for projects fully compliant with the d-4-d controls that are requiring minor modification this will the - a major modification something will be leasehold for the d-4-d that will be forwarded

to the planning commission in terms of historic rehabilitation the port had been handling basically the rehab processed for the 3 historic buildings on the site and the port will be handling the open space and the schematic design and once they've got - the project team a available for questions that the commission may have we've reserved an additional hearing on may 11th if there are tops you want to explore we'll bring that before it is anticipated review basically in july of this year thank you. >> great, thank you mr. secrest. >> open up for public comment if others want to speak you're more than welcome to please line up on the screen side of the room. >> i'm marty one thought about 40 artists at the newman

building and we're a group that has many of us been there 15 or 20 years or more mid criteria and professional artists new people from the schools and what have you anyway forest city has given the artists at the newman building a presentation on the design while we're stealing upset we're losing our newman building will be that diminished we're excited about the design and analyzed about the design but pleased will be the agreement with forest city that protects us we've been lucky enough to in our negotiations with the port, in fact, commissioner fong was a commissioner when this happened a variance that kept our rent another below-market rate and the agreement with the port for

forest city as we move into the future and new location a similar rent scheme will be in place a lot of us are old will be in place into so i'm here to speak in support of project. >> thank >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon corey smith on behalf of the housing coalition. i think this is the second time i had the opportunity to speak about this project we're very much in support and ask you whatever you can do to keep this moving forward and built that as quickly as possible would be fantastic thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. is there any additional public comment? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. and open up to commission comments and questions. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much thank you to the forest city

team and staff for coming today we've heard multiple hearings on the pier 70 it is from to see side forward momentum on the project and this project is a fabulous use of this site having that the proposition to allow it to go up past and we'll be looking forward to seeing the design for documents in the future the one noted i'll make at this date about the project that always been part of strategy shown today to have a strong pedestrian network by having lots of alleyways and other ways of getting pedestrians on the street and what that trade off - means is that a lot of vehicle circulation not necessarily going to be in the center of the project that is a good thing for the walkability for the neighborhood and ultimately it's

success with that said, needs to be work on how the site is connected to transit and how the bus lines are part of mta plans as this development continues are integrated into the philosophy of having a pedestrian strong network and the reason i say that third street is on a map not to far away if you're in that neighborhood is a hike and have more pursue as the eastern neighborhoods develops and hunters point and india basin wants to make sure it is thoughtful of as you have the have are streets and alleys ♪ project prioritizing pedestrians to make sure there is - great project and looking forward to seeing more. >> thank you to a the gentleman can a i ask you a question first

congratulations you all have done a great job in working with the local neighbors and the communities there and putting forward a project we all like and think is great and particularly like the dodi think that is one of the better ones we've seen as far as the design and architectural i don't know if forest city intend to keep this project or develop that as you move forward i'll ask the staff i think you know your sense of how this should be you know designed is great but you know if you sell all those parcels to different developers will they still have that same commitment to the project and only so much you can do in the d-4-d to insure the quality materials and the open spaces

are built the their rendered and sdous how can we be assured you and i grappled with tdr we've not seen if it works but how can we be sure. >> one i appreciate the positive comments about the design guidelines and i think that because it is a historic district it requires being worked out more per scripture we're pushed there and for cd to create value as not individual buildings but a quality district we're willing to live with those more stringent guidelines to to make sure they exist on buildings we a don't build

condominium or affordable housing buildings we've not build we're interested in having guidelines that we felt will as much as possible prohibit people from doing things and provided for future designers to work within a framework to create something that honored the site and didn't overly box them in it's one piece of it your question is about this forest city is it committed to the project you know we became - we've been a pubically trading company we became a read real estate trust about a year ago and the purpose of a real estate investment trust to own buildings and so the project didn't actually accomplish for us what

we hoped to have it accomplish without us owning the buildings and there's been a shift in the focus of the company we got a lot of property and development in the east coast and a desire to be more invested in san francisco so their resources both staff and capital have already been shifted to san francisco i can't guarantee you that you know there is no guarantee that who knows what can happen but the agreements with the property owner and port will insure they have the right to select someone for whatever reason we'll not perform and i think the design guidelines will withstand that we've no intention of doing anything but completing this from the commissioners are in

washed we have a project that hesitate similarity we're building out a good example why we're so invested in pier 70. >> that's great we see projects we've approved where we all like the design and here we're not approving a specific designs but more guidelines so you know their value or the materials change and not quite what we expected so you know, i hope that is the cats if i can ask josh. >> good afternoon josh with staff i'll add that so the gentleman said the documents that you have before you the design for documents in the back of it a very comprehensive set of controls and standards and guidelines that relate to the architectureal quality more in detail than in the past rather than the urban design guidelines

and some of the past like treasure island with the historic character of the district as well as the 1r0ish9 to grapple with the building quality we work closely with the lab and other folks on the team and looked at the precedence and tested those to create a system that hopefully allows the architects to set a high bar important things like materiality and texture and agreeing the building and so forth that is a step forward and initiative that is complex but we're optimistic it can produce a high quality design. >> thanks you, you know i didn't comment on the open space the open space should be what they want it to be it gets goofy this is a state land interpretation you can't put a playground didn't serve

the region or that is just wrong you know, i think we should push on it from need be didn't say that in the interpretation of it i think we shouldn't degrade the openness if they want to have something if that's the case that works. >> so commissioner moore. >> you're talking politics (laughter) this is a state land i think the problem with some of the port open spaces it is passive not playground or basketball court but weird state land interpretation thing so i don't think necessarily generates great open space. >> commissioner moore. >> let me say i think acknowledging this project definitely is an additional of the world-class quality of san francisco port i think that project deserves to be acknowledged that way it is a

thorough thoughtful and detail d-4-d property one that i've seen in a long time and believe it or not from the beginning to end i read it thoroughly and it is amazing the structure of the documents normally i say why not give more ruktz their obviously here it gives us a background on the history of the regulatory overview and the guidelines couldn't be better laid to be a much needed document and on a slightly lighter note i saw the name of evan reminded me how long we've seen the effort on its own i think the document lays out really, really exciting strategies - about a followup

i'd like to ask a detailed question i don't think i'll use this but the question i'd like to ask as a overarching question love for you to discuss the phasing of this project in terms of do you move from the waterfront inland or the land side out an extremely interesting question a project hang around for 10 or 15 years have a physical reality how they have the feeling of a permanent place and quality in the buildings two district are the two districts faced with each other and faced individually i'd like to hear the story and the other story i'd like to see more detail our discussion with our neighbors it is pg&e and that is indeed any plans or ideas that

the department is pushing on the formal potrero plans are like larger envisioning ideas for the city and if you have any lever of discussions i'd like to have you sketch out ideas about the speeding to come common terminals and on and on and on as far as the open space design is concerned it is very much in what supports the port in the nexus referrals and the entire waterfront open space design i myself was involved for years and years doing the roifrlg park i couldn't be more delighted to see this as you've brought to this