water breakdown in the remaining con tamnents. i think we can get full clean up of the site and when we transfer the property, there will be no land use controls to monitor. that's why the date of 2019 gives us time to collect more data to represent decrease in trends in soil and soil gas. 6 and 32. these were lumped together when the original transfer plan was put together some years ago. site 6 is the historical fire fighting training facility that we had for about 50 years before it was shut down and a new one was built. the good news here, we finalized the action in 2017 and we have ongoing monitoring to make sure we have those decreasing trends, so we can transfer the property

with a clean bill of health. site 32 was a storage facility. the reason we haven't transferred it, we use it as a lay down area. mainly soil from site 12. when we do a radiological clean up project, we lay down the soil on radiological screening pads, that's where we do all the testing and scanning to determine if the soil needs to be shipped off.

>> we have done some radio logical scanning there due to historic historical laydown areas. before the wastewater plant was built, we did recycling abilities there. we scanned it. that should receive a clean bill of health. building 461, same thing. there was training ongoing there. we had to scan that building as well. we're working with california department of health from relief of that building. the original transfer date is 2020. it's possible we could work to get that property to the city before that. this is just one of those legacy dates from the edcmoa that we

haven't really changed yet. but we'll work with tida as we move forward with those sites. so last but not least the focus of the environmental restoration program is the housing area site 12. there's chemical cleanup, and of course radio logical investigation. you have this dual layer cleanup program that makes it complex. it'll be the last partle inside to grasp the complicated nature, i made a flowchart. it helps me. if you look at radio that radio lo logical sort of thing. the goal is to for everything to turn green. with each milestone, we turn one

of these boxes green and get a little closer to ultimately being able to transfer the property to the city of san francisco. so right here, we have the solid waste disposal areas. you'll hear that term often. it really is where 99% of all the radiological contamination that is what everyone is concerned about comes from the solid waste disposal area, documented places where disposal occurred, mostly during the 40s and 50s. so this is a map, you can sort of see the four solid waste disposal areas. we call them westside drive here. based north point are up there. b big bigga -- bigelow court in that area. we're trying to wrap them up at bayside.

bigelow and bayside complete. we have to go back to north point in 2018 for another additional dig. we westside drive, 90% of everything recovered from site 12 came from westside drive. when you look at the historical documents, you can see the aerial photographs show that's where the known disposal occurred from. it's not a surprise that that's really where everything has been coming from. so looking now towards other things, if you move to the right side, you're dealing with chemical things. and it gets a little confusing, i admit, when we do different projects and different phases, this particular project was focusing on a time-critical removement action to get ahead of the process as funding permitted. we did three things. we it a historical petroleum

removal. that's sort of coincides with the 1939 gas station available for the international exposition. so we removed the petroleum there that was causing a groundwater issue there. poly-34inated biphenol issue. we're almost done with that. the southern portion of site 12, small digs poaddress other things. those are all done. so basically we're about 90% done with all the chemical work that will have to be done. moving on to solid waste disposal action, it's another phase we're working on. we have a work plan being developed. in 2018, we're going to go to

the northern area of site 12 for a lot of those small chemical digs. after this is done, we basically should not be goodbying going back into the neighborhoods for any remedial action outside of the solid waste disposal area that no one is living right now. that should be a big relief to the community that we should be wrapping up all of our intrusive work in site 12 in the spring of 2018, expected to take probably 2 or 3 months for the project as a whole. last but not least, the most complicated environmental portion of site 12 is the radiologic radiological just because it's a matter of two things. you have solid waste disposal areas which are easy. you excavate them. during the four phases of housing construction, it's clear that some of these ints -- incide

incidental objects may have been pulled from some debris and distributed through the housing area. less than 1% has been found outside of the solid waste disposal areas. this presents a unique challenge to figure out what is the ultimate remedy going to be for site 12. so what we're talking about is low-level radiological items containing radium 226. it's the only radio isotope found on treasure island that needs to be removed. 99% has been from the solid waste disposal areas. the challenge is the open spaces. so from a purely human health and safety point of view, many of you recall the open space surveys that the california department of public health did initially followed by the navy scans as well. and all the open spaces as well as everybody building within site 12 and every other open

space. so we did a layered approach, survey upon survey to build a line of evidence that we'll present to the state. ultimately, to determine whether or not further action is needed. for the open spaces, right now, we're thinking that not much more needs to be done because the lines of evidence can say that we've cleared these open spaces down to a certain depth. the paperwork is going to take some time. we have to go through the circle of process. the next significant document will be the radiological feasibility study in 2018 followed by a proposed plan and record of decision. we'll work closely with the state of california through this process to ultimately decide what the final remedy will be for the open spaces and the solid waste disposal areas. the options for the solid waste disposal areas are pretty straightforward. excavation has been what we've been trying to do is just pure source removal, which is the

most aggressive thing that you can do. so in summary, again, it's all about protecting human health in the environment, but the good news is after 25 years, the remediation work is basically complete in over half the base. the ongo radiological survey work is expected to focus only on-site 12 after 2018. but in site 12, there will be continued chemical remediation, and it will be the only site basically that we focus on on treasure island, 2018 and beyond. ultimately, like i said before, it'll be the last site transf transferred mainly due to the paperwork steps that we need to go to to insure that the regulatory agencies give it a clean bill of health to support transfer. with that, i know that's a lot

to go over, but i'll be happy to answer any questions that the board and anyone else may have. >> i think we'll first open it up to the board for questions. and then we will open it up to the audience for questions. yes. >> thank you very much, sir, for that detailed presentation. i think we would like personally like for you to help us to convey our gratitude to his excellent work on this project. he's no longer here, but you know, we know that he has the new person using this project is in good hands. i have a series of questions for you. you mentioned that the 30 series parcel 30 series are conveyance in january, end of january. so that is very ambitious.

very precious that we've gotten this far. so for the public proceedings, and this percentage here is extremely very important. you also know that you have the additional public proceedings to conduct, you know, for the residents, for the cab. that is very important. the reason is because the information that you present to us here is extremely important, and we also want to make sure that the residents and they also have the opportunity for that, because january is just around the corner, and end of january, you're ready to go, so the presumption here is that all the regulatory agencies by you secured all their reports and sign up, right? >> correct. >> okay. that's great. so please, that process is extremely important. that way we all on the same page here, and the second also has to do with pursuit 12, which again,

the anticipated time is 2021, which is also very very impressive. that date, i know depends on the 2018 feasibility report. that would determine the extent of how far to a 31. it may be you can actually convey before that, but if they're just likelihood that that report indicates something that will be further investigation, that may affect that 2021. >> the fees ability study is key really to the open spaces. that's really the most challenging technical question that we have, what is the final remedy to ultimately support property transfer. >> and even that, the 2021 is still very impressive we've done all this work. >> yes. >> just now getting to that tail end. so overall, i think this is

great news that we are finally after 20 something years, we have gotten the public and recognize and all the stakeholders that meticulously, that we have the regulatory oversight, and these folks are doing whatever it is, and you can just see the span of the process, that the city of san francisco, by the time the parcels are conveyed, that all of the regulatory agencies, including san francisco department of public health will have their say so. >> correct. 2021 seems a far ways away, but it'll be here before you know it. there are a lot of conversations to be held for site 12 before that. that's why we are trying to get ahead of ourselves so when 2021 comes along, we are ready to transfer. there will be a lot of discussions about site 12, more and more as it becomes the focus

for the environmental restoration project. >> i think that before the ultimate goal here, and especially with the navy remediation is to make sure that the land is safe for people to live, for our children to play, you know, and i just wanted to notice you have in your report that you actions you take are actually also being looked at by various agencies, regulatory agen agencies. >> correct. >> like the waterboard and t --r board and the state department of health. it's not just the navy saying it's okay. we have all these agencies at the state and local level that are overlook the work you are doing and making sure it is up to the standards of safety for

us. would you comment on that? >> that's very accurate. my job primarily is to collect informati information, to clean things up and collect information, and then provide it to the regulatory agencies. they're the ones that sign off that is something is clean and suitable for transfer, as well as other independent agencies apart from san francisco department of health, the hsdr, institute, the cancer institute do independent studies upon themselves that the public can rely upon as far as whether or not treasure island is safe to live, work, and play in, which they've all said consistently it is. so that's something that we rely upon heavily, those independent third-party opinions based upon the information that we collect. >> thank you. and i think that we won't even accept the land, the transfer land to us until those agencies

have said this is safe. >> correct. >> thank you. yes. >> thank you for the presentation of. this is all very new and informative for me. you know, as just the layperson, when i hear about cleanup and radiological contaminants, it does come across as pretty alarming. it would help me understand it if you can give me some points of reference. as i understand it, the chemical or regulations around hazardous materials have really changed over the decades, and in my perspective, i would assume there are probably other, you know, older type of materials or commonly used products that are may contain similar contaminants of the radium 226 that i think you've said was present. can you maybe give me just like

some examples of what those items may be. is it something that is like maybe more prevalent than i would think? do we discover items with a particular type of isotope even in the mainland, san francisco. >> sure. to keep it really simple. radium 226 was used without regulation for decades. any old glow in the dark clocks that your grandparents may have or it's radium 226. it's in the public domain. and regulated by certain rules and regulations. it's not illegal to have a clock from your grandparents. you note it is radium 226 and should be treated with the respect that it is. granted it's at low levels, so it's really -- you're dealing with a totally different scenario than something like in

say a nuclear power plant. it's apples and oranges. it's out there. but we treat it with more respect than perhaps we did in the past. like i said, it wasn't regulated, and the common disposal practice was burial. that's why we find it in these burial pits because that was the recommended disposal practice, because what you do is you separate yourself from it. and the radiation can be blocked with a separation of soil. and that's why you bury it, and there it is. but now, given the nature of everyone's concern, we're removing it. it seems to be the practical thing to do. >> request comb -- any question

from the board? we'll turn it open to audience. >> my name is ruthy sackhype. i name to this area from new york about 30 or so years ago and when it came, word on the street was don't ever go over to those islands. they're radioactive. i haven't spent much time here, and i know a whole community has developed here. and i worry about the health of the people here. i think call it radiological is not an honest way to say it. you should say radioactive. the fear is it's radioactive. i think that also radioactive, being a layperson, i learned there were half lives and all kinds of things and you could not get rid of it once it were somewhere. where are you sending it if

you're removing it? my last question is if we're to trust the epa and other regulatory agencies, i don't have a lot of trust in those agencies. i think they can be bought off by developers and they're not completely trustworthy for the citizens. i'm wondering if there are citizens watchdog groups that will be brought in to really measure the radio activity themselves? thank you so much. >> i think you can answer that question first. please. >> you're right. the terminology is not a pleasant topic to discuss. there are new good way to talk about it. i think it was put best years ago when he said even though there really isn't a humane

health issue, there's a crisis of confidence where historically, perhaps, we could have done a better job communicating to the public exactly what is out there. and there will always be room for improvements to communicate with vettbetter because it's a complicated thing to deal with. it's not an oil spill or something you can necessarily see that makes it more mysterious. that's something we try to work on and try to have as many meetings as possible with the restalation advisory board to bring in to refresh everyone in what we're dealing with why is it a concern. how do you dispose of it properly. you can't get rid of it because

of the half-life of radium 226. you basically take it to a secured disposal facility. typically in the past, it's gone to utah, the disposal facility there. i agree that yes, there is continued work as far as discussing with the public, educating them. that will be an ongoing thing we have to do. and again, we have invited the third-party companies to come in and observe what we do. we'll continue our work. as development occurs. we'll continue to do that for years to come to insure the dialogue continues. there's always something new to

learn and relearn so we all understand it better. even i learn new things every day which is good, i think. >> my name is melanie williams. you were saying certain stuff, and i remember you all having a meetings. i've been here 20 years. okay? where was the lady at that was just here. first of all everybody is here. we got a big community. you all came in. when you come in stuff like this, and people don't know, that's what loyalty. we don't want people saying i've been here 20 years. you say oh grandfather clocks, i have all that. my grandfather left me something. you all coming in and not breaking down and got these big

words, and then our community -- we don't know. so when you came in before to a friend, i've been knowing for years. my thing is you don't break stuff down to people, how do you think we feel when somebody coming in and you saying this is our board. they need to know. and as me being here 20 years, yes, i do have that. my grandmother left me this clock. you saying those big words, that confuses somebody if you don't break it down right and we think something's wrong. i know there ain't nothing wrong with this. you ain't told us, you're going to be the ones accountable for what happens. so your job is let the people that been here this long know, and come to them. when you say clean it up and

you're seeing dh and all this coming in, that's good. we lived here. our kids grew up here. so if we need to be accountable, let us know and get it together. make sue we all right. we've been living here. you go home at night. and we have to stay here, sir. thank you. [clapping] >> you're right. and that goes exactly to our continuing effort to get less technical. we're very technical people. and it is one of the biggest challenges to communicate, you know, what we're dealing with. so like i said, we have room for improvement. i think we'll just keep the dialogue going and try to break it down and bring in new people that maybe have a new spin on dealing with it. we've had several experts in the

past to talk about the topic. so yeah, we're going to continue to do that, just so that we will repeat the message that, yes, we understand what you're dealing with, because you're living here. as you say, we go home at night. so that's something that i don't think we will ever be able to stop in the near future, even possibly past property transfers. thank you for that. >> thank you. to see another question. yes. please state your name. >> my name is tracy tracy. my question is are you concerned that we might not know the effects of the contamination until years and years later? because i have a 12-year-old son who became ill, and the doctors couldn't figure out what was going on with him, and so i have this kind of underlying fear that maybe it was something, say, from across the street, the

barracks are getting brought down. they don't understand why he's not able to breathe. or is this just existing on treasure island and he's going to have some sort of allergies or maybe it's genetic? who knows. but how should we deal with that if we don't even understand what's gonna happen in the future? >> very common question. everyone has that. and we start -- i can make some recommendations right off the bat. because you're not the first one with this question. it's very important. and so we do rely upon the -- the navy relies upon the third parties to really make that judgment call based upon the information we receive. to mention a few san francisco department of public health plays that critical role. i believe they're always there to take a call and to look into

a situation. and if they don't have the answer to the question, they can look into other resources, including the center for disease control and atlanta, they'll take petitions. they've taken several petitions, looking into treasure island. and i believe that the opportunity is there to ask questions related to any specific things that any residents may have. so we do rely upon others to make that decision. so i'd recommend, you know, starting with the san francisco department of public health. they're key and always have been key. and then they can take it from there. again we work with them constantly to provide information to them. the california department of public health is also key. various branches of it.

if they have any new information, we'll talk about that. the feasibility study is key to say how much more information can we gather on-site 12 to be used not only how to clean it up if anything needs to be cleaned up, but are there any new ways to characterize it so that everyone feels a little better that it is safe to live on treasure island. >> thank you. so hearing no other questions, next item, please. >> item number nine, transit pass study. >> so to give an update on the work they've been doing to study future transit pass says for the

island. >> welcome. >> good evening, board. i'm a translation planner with tima. today i'll be presenting treasure island transit pass study overview. i'll go over the transit pass overview and discuss what are the alternatives we are studying for this pass. i will go through the transit pass value principles, how are we going to set the price for these transit passes, and next up of our study. just to refresh your memory, this map shows all the transportation that will be servicing treasure island in the future. so we have existing muni routes. we'll have an a.c. transit that will connect treasure island to east bay and a ferry route from treasure island to san francisco. in order to make all these different transportation mode

work seamless and for our riders to use, we are designing a transit pass that will make for everybody to use these all three modes easily. with that in mind, we launched our study from the transportation plan, the mandates two mandatory transit passes. one is for market rate resident households. one transit pass per market ready household and one transit pass per hotel room. from there on in our study, we increase that user group. for our study, not only we included those two mandatory passes. we also include workers and below-market-rate residents. for our study, we have included one pass for market-rate household, one pass per hotel room, workers, and below-market-rate residents.

through this study, we'll define what this pass will look like, how much this pass will cost, and what will be the implementation planned for this pass. before we begin this study, we looked at what other passes that are offered in bay area. we have done four-case studies. first one is san francisco state university where it is a mandatory pass for all sfu students and the pass cost is $ $30 included in their tuition deals. it includes all muni and transp transper transfer to bart discount. you'll be able to ride all muni services and able to take a transfer to daily city bart station at a discounted rate. the second transit pass is an easy pass. it's also a mandatory pass when

housing developments or companies buy this pass. the pass cost ranges from $50 to $188 annually. and this will include all a.c. transit including transbay. third option that we looked at, third transit pass is housing development in san francisco. this is not a mandatory pass program. it's a voluntary pass program where residents can opt in for $100 cash which will be -- which can be used in muni or can be used in paper uber rides for tmcs. and the last one is hunters point and shipyard pass program. it's a mandatory pass program where residents get a cash value or muni pass to take muni

anywhere in san francisco. with this scope, we developed the goals of our program. so the first goal is to maximize transit ridership, to make sure that all modes touching treasure island is covered with this pass. second that our pass is affordable. people, the cost is something the people can afford. it's easy to obtain and use for low-income transit riders. the third is enhanced customer use experience. we want to design something people can use, and it is easy to use. four, implementation feasibility. we want to be able to implement this pass with existing fare policy and technology, which -- and be coordinated with the treasure island development schedule. and five, financial sustainability. we want to be able to design a pass which is minimum in capital implementation cost and look at fare box recovery.

with all these goals and objectives in mind, there are two pass options that we are doing our ultimate analysis on currently. first one is treasure island access pass. this will include all muni, all a.c. transit and ferry routes to and from san francisco and treasure island. it's an unlimited 3-rode pass. the second one, treasure island transit cash, this is an amount of cash uploaded into your clipper card that you can use anywhere in bay area. that will include muni, bart, san trans, wherever they take clipper, you'll be able to use this pass. the two comparison social security shown here. as i said before, unlimited access to all mu oochni, ac tra and part. the other is all bay area transit services. there will be no transfer

penalty. the transit cash, you'll see a tra transthe.between ac transit or transferring between rita and mu ooch ni. if somebody works and lived in between san francisco and treasure island, thailt they'll still have a.c. transit on their pass. if they're using cash, they'll only paid for whatever mode they're using. all in all, the access pass will cover your full transportation costs and full transit cost fist you're within those three modes. the transit cash might not cover your full cost depending on your usage and the mode you choose for transit. the common theme between these two alternatives are that they'll both be available in clipper card. they'll be both available

through tima. this will not be a retail protect. it'll be an constitutional product and below market rate will have 50% discount. so in order to determine the value of how much this pass should cost, we have developed three principles. first one is titif recommendations. they should be at muni fast pass value which is $75. the starting point is $75. second one, customer value. we want to design something that is valuable to our customer, and is comparable to other existing products in bay area. so what our pass is offering is comparable to other passes that are around, and financial sustainability, we should be able to recover our pass costs and have it revenue neutral, and able to get a reasonable

administrative cost recovered. here are some of the pass costs based on bay area. so the first row shows agency passes. so this is -- this basically shows that what a wide range of costs are there. the path cost in bay area is from $38 to $345 for ferry rides. for ferry between san francisco and vallejo. so this is a very wide range of pass costs we have looked at. the second shows all the constitutional programs in bay area where you can only get the passes through an employer or university or housing development. and this cost also have a very wide range. it goes from $4 which is ac transit easy pass to a hundred dollars which is apart merced. the cost range varies whether

it's institutional or retail. a little bit of the outreach we've been doing, so in spring 2017, earlier this year, we went to ticb community meeting, ti housing partner, food pantry, with ti cab and had ray tima open house on island. we also did a treasure island wide survey to learn more about transportation pattern and what thi want to see in pass. what we have found is 64% of residents who took our survey has a transit pass, whether it is muni, bart, or life line program. we also asked what is a key feature they would like to see on a future pass. overwhelmingly, about 43% said they want to be able to transfer between different operators more easily. so have a pass that has multiple

operators in it. in fall, last two months, we have doing outreach, we have had three focus groups with existing residents and businesses. we had two focus groups with residents and one with existing businesses. also future residents and visitors. here we reached out to different real -- different realtors, and s.f. travel, ands hotel council in san francisco to learn more about what their needs are and their customer needs are so key we can develop a transportation plain currently. we're also here on this board meeting, and we also went to food pantry in october and november to learn more about transportation needs. with that, the next step is to complete our alternative

analysis. we want to gather -- we want to share principle about sharing revenues between different transit agency we have been working with. we want to incorporate feedback from community and stakeholders that we have been gathering, and finally propose a final pass design with fare pass value by spring 2018. that is all. >> thank you very much. i'll open it up to questions or comments by the board. yes. >> thank you for this. this is super interest. a couple of questions. i'm assuming that there will be different rates available for elderly, disabled, and youth. is that being studied as well? >> our pass will -- the fare right now has different price points, but our passville two price points. one will be a retail value, and

one will have low income value, and bee haven't defined that category yet. we have low income transit riders which we are getting it from, our model that we have developed for the development. but that's something we can look into to see how the price point would go with elderly and youth. >> yeah. i would think that would be really important to do which is consistent with general public transportation priority. as you have already mentioned, mack maximizing access is important for all members of the community. i didn't quite understand why basically a discount or on you stated that under the transit cash option that there would be penalties for transfer.

i don't quite understand why we can't build it into the system where it would recognize if you say switch to a different mode within certain hours, it would be charged discount. >> yeah. i think the way the cash would work, it would be an amount of cash, let's say, a hundred dollars that is uploaded on it your clipper card. at that point, whatever the rules of that transit operator has. so muni has a transfer rule that i think within 90 minutes, you don't get charged. a.c. transit doesn't have it. if you are transferring a.c. transit, you're paying one way fare all the time. the minute it gets implemented at the hundred dollar into your clipper card, you would be subject to different rules of different operators. where the access pass, you don't have it. so the access pass is that unlimited amount that you can ride a.c. transit and all muni

and ferry. >> meaning there's no technology available that we could program into the clipper card under the cash-value option where it would still acknowledge this, i don't know, 90-minute transfer grace period? >> no. that has to be a transit operator. they have to mandate they don't want to carry that transfer forward. >> okay. it has to be on the transit operator side. we would give that amount allotted into the clipper card. now then however they did their roux looks to determine the fare, that's how they go. we can look if we can do it for our pass only, if transit cash can be performed under our business rules. >> and i'm not sure if the last point where you're comparing the two passes whether that really

answers my question about -- my next question is about comparing the values, just for the dollars spent. when it says that the pass value may not cover full transit costs per month, should i take that to mean that everyone who uses these passes will actually get more value if the option is am a access pass opposed to the cash value. >> it depends on what the travel behavior is. if somebody is taking part, which is a higher -- has a higher price point compared to a.c. transit, they'll reach that limit a lot faster. right? so that -- because that's a fixed amount that will be uploaded into a clipper card. whatever the pattern of usage is, it will depend on that.

if you're a frequent transit rider, you're using part, it might not cover the full month. >> i suppose in the upcoming phases of analysis. obviously the transit cash for all the option, we didn't really input like a dollar amount to it. maybe we can get some power information on that. that would be really useful. >> we'll have some values assigned to it. >> thank you very much. for the presentation. here we go again. this is one of the best

transportation regions in the world, and then we have all of these segmented systems. and what you just described, even with good intentions are complications in there. and so you have all the transfer agencies. they're now talking to each other. and i think that it's time for the empty seat to take leadership to really help to streamline. this type of discussion has been ongoing for decades now that people really want that. you're transferring from bart to muni. it's crazy. looking at your analysis here, the point is that the maintenance, i don't think if i were to vote today, i'll opt for the cash. it gets more complicated. you have all these rules that are going to be written into that, and someone listening. let's break it down. if i'm live on the island, and i have two children, and i have to pick them up at a certain time and go to my job and have to get

sick or all of that, there are lots of complicated. oh they have visitors or they have elderly. they have to drop, and there is no way you can design those rules. the yes, sir of the carb and the maintenance is so easy that they'll be impacted. what we should be up for is to have one pass and we know the vulnerable group, the elders. we don't want to complicate this to them. just get them the pass. wherever they're in the system, just let them go. then we have the age group or wherever we wanted to do. also again look at the residents. it's kind of hard to define their behavior. earlier on, we talk about the duration of these programs. we need to be able to put that

in. what are we talking about when we're subsidizing all this and that. but there needs to be a brother question, and issue that is to be a result, because treasure island residents are also part of the san francisco mainland. muni is subsidized with my money, your money, and everybody's money subsidize that, whether we ride or not ujust like the federal government subsidizes federal transportationment for me, they're going to be the bigger question here as to the residents. yes, we're trying to make it easier for them during this transition, but we also be looking at the long haul here especially for the vulnerable, for the children, and to all of that. and you complicate all of this stuff here. no. it's not going to -- at some point it's not going to work. again the technology, we all use all these rules. help us to look back in your system where we can have a

single pass. everything is coded and all i have to do is wham, going, and come out. i think that's all people's lives of complicated already with all this other stuff. i don't even think i can manage all this loading card and something. it's not gonna work again. >> thank you. >> thank you very much for your presentation. and we look forward to your further evaluation in coming back to us. >> thank you. >> so let's see. >> income -- item number ten. >> are there any? >> hearing none. >> adjourned. >> adjourned. thank you all for coming tonight. >> thank you.

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violinist and violin teacher. i was born here in san francisco to a family of cellists, professional cellists, so i grew up surrounded by a bunch of musical rehearsals an lessons. all types of activities happened in my house. i began playing piano when i was 4. i really enjoyed musical activities in general. so when i was 10, i began studying violin in san francisco. and from there, i pretty much never stopped and went on to study in college as well. that's the only thing i've ever known is to have music playing all the time, whether it is someone actually playing next to you or someone listening to a recording. i think that i actually originally wanted to play flute and we didn't have a flute. it's always been a way of life. i didn't know that it could be

any other way. >> could you give me an e over here. great. when you teach and you're seeing a student who has a problem, you have to think on your feet to solve that problem. and that same kind of of thinking that you do to fix it applies to your own practice as well. so if i'm teaching a student and they are having a hard time getting a certain note, they can't find the right note. and i have to think of a digestible way to explain it to them. ee, d, d, e. >> yes. then, when i go on to do my own practice for a performance, those words are echoing back in my head. okay. why am i missing this? i just told somebody that they needed to do this. maybe i should try the same thing. i feel a lot of pressure when

i'm teaching young kids. you might think that there is less pressure if they are going on to study music or in college that it is more relaxing. i actually find that the opposite is true. if i know i'm sending a high school student to some great music program, they're going to get so much more instruction. what i have told them is only the beginning. if i am teaching a student who i know is going to completely change gears when they go to college and they never will pick up a violin again there is so much that i need to tell them. in plain violin, it is so difficult. there is so much more information to give. every day i think, oh, my gosh. i haven't gotten to this technique or we haven't studies they meese and they have so much more to do. we only have 45 minutes a week. i have taught a few students in some capacity who has gone on to study music. that feels anaysing. >> it is incredible to watch how

they grow. somebody can make amazing project from you know, age 15 to 17 if they put their mind to it. >> i think i have 18 students now. these more than i've had in the past. i'm hoping to build up more of a studio. there will be a pee ono, lots of bookshelves and lots of great music. the students will come to my house and take their lessons there. my schedule changes a lot on a day-to-day basis and that kind of keeps it exciting. think that music is just my favorite thing that there is, whether it's listening to it or playing it or teaching it. all that really matters to me is that i'm surrounded by the sounds, so i'm going top keep doing what i'm doing to keep my

life in that direction.

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