>> there's a lower mike right there. >> hello council members i am jonathan lyons and i wanted to say first of all, thank you for having everybody come together on this important issue. for the record i'm the president of the f.d.r. democratic club of san francisco and we're the only democratic club in san francisco dedicated to seniors and people with disabilities. and for historical context we were the loudest vocal opponent for all intents and purposes on this issue but i wanted to make it clear that it wasn't for a lack of respect and a lack of

value of the work of the m.t.a. and the work of kate and the work of john and i really appreciate genuinely the work they've done on this important issue and our members never, ever said that this wasn't a critical issue that needed to be addressed and we just had a fundamental disagreement on strategy and how we go about getting this done and most notably our members were concerned about the issue around payment, specifically, and forcing people with disabilities to pay and we had concerns but we're definitely open to conversations around time limits as well. we actually went to the state democratic party and got the party to pass a resolution in opposition to this plan which was passed unanimously. and, actually, the executive board of the state party starts meeting, actually, this evening in anaheim -- or in burlingham and i'll have conversations with folks there. but we really want to -- we want

to figure out a way to carve, you know, carve this issue out and figure out how do we move this ball forward. there's definitely fraud. you know, the d.m.v. audit that kate and john referenced, it was pretty damning. i don't think that anybody here who ever dealt with the d.m.v. had a good experience and i have never met anybody that has. so we definitely need to figure out, you know, in my opinion, that we need to allow the recommendations of that audit to be implemented and the implementation of those recommendations to actually take effect and have, you know, have real positive impact. we definitely are open to some of the other conversations around, you know, reissuing placards, why in the world do they reissue placards every two years when i never even told them where i am or what i'm doing or whether or not i still have a disability. two years, it doesn't make any sense, why bother reissuing them at all? so we'd definitely like to explore these options and i'd like to work with the m.t.a. and

i really appreciate the fact that the m.t.a. has been open to having these conversations all the way up to the director level. and we would like to continue to engage on this issue. and we don't disagree if this is an issue, and we agree with the recommendations and we have a disagreement on strategy and i think that honest brokers can come to the table and figure out a way to get this done. (bell ringing). >> thank you, jonathan, thank you, thank you. you want to respond? one more question. >> just to clarify, this is public comment period so we should go to the next public comment. >> okay. >> i'm bob planthold. i was a member of the group that worked on this years ago so i have more experience than i say than kate or other staff.

part of the difficulties in this issue that we found from earlier discussions is not everybody read the report and it's important to read and then when you see something that you do not understand or you do not like, ask a question. we found people saying, no, no, to something that we didn't suggest. something that we did not recommend. but to give help to you folks to understand some of the problems, d.m.v. is bound to honor any legitimate requests signed by any of the 16 different types of health care professionals. an amazing variety of people, you can certify somebody with a red placard or a blue placard. so, for example, the mayor or the supervisors or the city attorney all had blue placards and produced a document from their doctor, gotta accept it. it may seem fraudulent, illogical. so d.m.v. is bound by those

difficulties which goes into why doctors, various staff do it. realize that it cost them nothing to do it. but if they say no to me, they may risk losing me as a patient. and i'll go somewhere else. so there's an economic problem potentially that the doc would have. and i'm using doc generically. that they'll lose patients. it cost them nothing. there's also the problem that there's no good clear specific guidelines for what constitutes the type of limitation problem, disability, that truly makes one eligible permanently. okay? there's another issue that we have gone up against and that is people who felt that the discussion about possibly paying for parking was taking away an economic benefit. not so. carla johnson researched it and found that figuratively ions ago that when this first started that there was not accessible parking technology as there is

now. so it was made free because there was no way that some people with disabilities could pay but now you can have it on your smartphone and have a debit card and do any number of ways to pay for it without having to put championships icoins in a sn mind that it was not an economic benefit but an accommodation to physical inability. as we talk and we work together on this, it's also helpful if we all -- i'm going to say it -- play fair. you heard the state democratic party said no and many people are democrats. what you didn't hear, what you don't know is that nobody told our side and no one told us who worked on it for months and months and months and out of the blue this is put forward and it went through over a weekend and we found out afterwards. so the ability to make a case -- (bell ringing). it was not there, keep that in mind. >> okay, thank you very much. any other speakers from the audience?

all right. now we need to go to the bridge line and i haven't addressed you folks, is there anyone on the bridge line that has any questions? >> no, no one is on the bridge line. >> no one from the bridge line. okay. well, i want to thank -- i want to thank the presenters and everyone who gave input and asked questions, this is a very interesting and -- a subject to address. that is for sure. so i'm going to close this information item out. number 7. all right, i think that we are at the break. and so let's see, according to my -- watch it's 2:07 and let's come back at 2:25. we'll reconvene.

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>> manufacturing in cities creates this perfect platform for people to earn livelihoods and for people to create more economic prosperity. i'm kate sosa. i'm cofounder and ceo of sf made. sf made is a public private partnership in the city of san francisco to help manufacturers start, grow, and stay right here in san francisco. sf made really provides wraparound resources for manufacturers that sets us apart from other small business support organizations who

provide more generalized support. everything we do has really been developed over time by listening and thinking about what manufacturer needs grow. for example, it would be traditional things like helping them find capital, provide assistance loans, help to provide small business owners with education. we have had some great experience doing what you might call pop ups or temporary selling events, and maybe the most recent example was one that we did as part of sf made week in partnership with the city seas partnership with small business, creating a 100 company selling day right here at city hall, in partnership with mayor lee and the board of supervisors, and it was just a wonderful opportunity for many of our smaller manufacturers who may be one or two-person

shop, and who don't have the wherewithal to have their own dedicated retail store to show their products and it comes back to how do we help companies set more money into arthur businesses and develop more customers and their relationships, so that they can continue to grow and continue to stay here in san francisco. i'm amy kascel, and i'm the owner of amy kaschel san francisco. we started our line with wedding gowns, and about a year ago, we launched a ready to wear collection. san francisco's a great place to do business in terms of clientele. we have wonderful brides from all walks of life and doing really interesting things: architects, doctors, lawyers, teachers, artists,

other like minded entrepreneurs, so really fantastic women to work with. i think it's important for them to know where their clothes are made and how they're made. >> my name is jefferson mccarly, and i'm the general manager of the mission bicycle company. we sell bikes made here for people that ride here. essentially, we sell city bikes made for riding in urban environments. our core business really is to build bikes specifically for each individual. we care a lot about craftsmanship, we care a lot about quality, we care about good design, and people like that. when people come in, we spend a lot of time going to the design wall, and we can talk about handle bars, we can see the riding position, and we take notes all over the wall. it's

a pretty fun shopping experience. paragraph. >> for me as a designer, i love the control. i can see what's going on, talk to my cutter, my pattern maker, looking at the designs. going through the suing room, i'm looking at it, everyone on the team is kind of getting involved, is this what that drape look? is this what she's expecting, maybe if we've made a customization to a dress, which we can do because we're making everything here locally. over the last few years, we've been more technical. it's a great place to be, but you know, you have to concentrate and focus on where things are going and what the right decisions are as a small business owner.

>> sometimes it's appropriate to bring in an expert to offer suggestions and guidance in coaching and counseling, and other times, we just need to talk to each other. we need to talk to other manufacturers that are facing similar problems, other people that are in the trenches, just like us, so that i can share with them a solution that we came up with to manage our inventory, and they can share with me an idea that they had about how to overcome another problem. >> moving forward, where we see ourselves down the road, maybe five and ten years, is really looking at a business from a little bit more of a ready to wear perspective and making things that are really thoughtful and mindful, mindful of the end user, how they're going to use it, whether it's the end piece or a he hwedding gown, are they going to use it again, and incorporating that

into the end collection, and so that's the direction i hear at this point. >> the reason we are so enamored with the work we do is we really do see it as a platform for changing and making the city something that it has always been and making sure that we're sharing the opportunities that we've been blessed with economically and socially as possible, broadening that >> hello, san francisco and welcome to another episode of

public works tv. i'm a publroject manager here public works, here on public works tv, but first let's take a look at what's been happening in the last week. we poured concrete at fire department 16. i wanted to hit the streets of chinatown talking to people about keeping the streets clean. see our website for more details. happy world plumbing day? did you know that many people in today's world still live without working plumbing in their home? we're dedicating this episode to world toilet day, that day

we recognize every year on november 19th to focus on proper sanitation and the access of clean and safe toilets for everyone. originally established by the world health organization in 2001, the day has grown to be recognized by the international community. in 2013, the united nations passed a resolution recognizing the national toilet day as an international day. we believe in basic human rights, and in this episode we want to show you a model that is being emulated around the country, our san francisco public works program, so let's take a look. >> there's nowhere to go in the city. there's not like -- like i said, public rest rooms, there's no porta potties, there's no boards or bushes. >> in 2015, we started to

provide a place for people to take care of their bathroom needs and lessen the impact on public works to cleanup streets and parks. this gives a place for people to get rid of their used needles, and pet owners to dispose of their pet waste. we decided to start here with the first three, and today we operate 17 locations in eight neighborhoods. what's special about this program? respect, having a trained monitor to ensure the toilet safe space is clean and inviting. >> my name is willie hammond.

>> so thank you for your patience and we'll now move on to information item number 8 which is accessibility, safety and biking in san francisco. and i'd like to welcome our presenter, janice vy, the advocacy director of the san francisco bicycle coalition. thank you for being here today. >> thank you all, council members. i am janice lee and i'm as noted the advocacy director at the san francisco bicycle coalition. and i really want to give a huge thank you to the mayor's office on disability, particularly nicole and joanna for inviting us to be here and i'll get to it a little bit further down my presentation, but i will just first acknowledge and recognize that the san francisco bicycle coalition has not always and very often has not been a great partner to our disability advocates and our accessibility

community and that is something that i want to improve upon because i find that pretty unacceptable, especially when we are talking about safety in our streets. so i have a brief presentation that gives a little bit more background to who we are as an organization, the kind of work that we do, and then hopefully i'll get through that presentation in a few minutes and leave a bit of time at the end and i'm really here more than anything to listen and to really answer this question that i have at the end about how we can be better partners and allies when it comes to street safety. so i'll go forward with the presentation. great. so who are we? we are a non-profit organization that was founded in 1971 and we a member based organization and

a member elected board and our members are very key to who we are and we have over 10,000 current members today. and our overall mission is to promote the bicycle for everyday transportation within san francisco. to that end we have a lot of different programs and as advocacy director i lead a lot of our campaign work so i'm going to just have some slides showing the kind of work that we do and i'll have photos but i'll describe what is in the photos as well. so more than anything we are known as the number one resource for street safety education. i say street safety and not only bike education because we really try to do very encompassing education for all road users and not just bicyclists. so this photo is actually a photo -- oh, that doesn't come out great -- a photo of a class that we held with chinese newcomer service center in

chinatown at sacramento and stockton and they do a lot of direct service and referral service for new chinese immigrants. many of whom would bike from the country -- or the city where they came from. but find it very difficult or daunting to navigate san francisco streets by bike. so this class that we teach is for people who are more, you know, comfortable on bikes and may know how to ride a bike already but don't really know the rules of the road or don't know how to navigate very dense san francisco street and so that's our urban cycling workshop 101. and we also teach new riders, in our traffic skills both on road and in the classroom. and we also teach youth, so we're at sunday street events, all of them, and i'm doing, oh, my gosh, freedom from training wheels is the name of that and we teach little kids how to stride and to balance on a bike, but beyond that we also do

education for professional drivers. so we have a curriculum and we have contracts with companies like google to train their tech shuttle drivers with recology and to train their large vehicle drivers as well and so it's very all-encompassing. and we do the sfmda taxi training. and the main team that my team does is to mobilize and turn out for safe streets. so this is a photo in front of city hall on bike-to-work day, one of our biggest rallies of the year, but we're really known for getting our members engaged in what we call street campaigns. when we really are looking for ways to improve an individual street and make it better and more welcoming for everyone who is biking there, everyone using those streets. we're often partnering with local neighborhood associations, we're working with city agencies, with elected officials, with merchant groups, whoever it is and even if they

love the project or hate the project. but that is really the bread and the butter of our advocacy work. next slide is to push for policy on street safety and i know that after may you'll get a presentation from megan weir around vision zero so vision zero is one of our key policies that we're pushing for, zero fatalities or serious injuries by 2024 and you also heard from kate breen today and we work with the legislative affairs on pushing for policies at the state level even, like automated speed enforcement. so we're really trying to find larger and more macro policies that make san francisco streets more welcoming for everyone. for the next slide i want to highlight our youth and family biking work and we are partners in the safe routes to school partnership where we engage parents and teachers and

students at elementary schools and we're in 30, 35 elementary schools and the public schools throughout the city. the two photos that i have here, the one on the left is from the south sear hub where three different school comes together and their student comes together and they gather at the playground and we have snacks, it's very fun and very energetic and it's a great way for kids to start the day. on the right is a -- i think that it's a bike train which are often led by parents to gather families together and bike together to go to school. and i think this is my last slide on the progra program word the next is give bikes back to the community. so one of the programs that i'm proud of is the bike build program where we are trying to reduce the barriers to biking and the biggest way to reduce that barrier is to give a bike away. so we actually are able to reclaim and to recover bikes from sfpd and from uni that are

left behind for a long time and we rehab them over with the help of volunteers and community bike shops and we partner with different organizations so that the photo right here is one of our volunteers working with the youth that lives at northridge cooperative homes in the bayview and this was from earlier this year. which we did bike build and gave away about 20 bikes away to folks that live at north wij ridge. this is predominantly at low ridge and in the outer mission and it's been a great program to give away hundreds of bikes every year. and so really the question is, why i'm here, and this gets back to the final question that i'll ask, how we can be better partners. so when we talk about biking and when we talk about accessibility, here's a couple efforts that i'll highlight that you may be familiar with, and so

the image on the left is something that the city of san francisco put out and i want to say like in 2014, and as the guidelines for accessible building blocks for bicycle facilities and it was to be this document that was dynamic i think, that when it came to bike infrastructure and our street design would set th guidelines whether policies or dimensions or policies to make sure that the new bike infrastructure that came in would actually be accessible for all users regardless of people -- including for people with disabilities. sorry. and then on the right is something that actually just came out quite recently, just earlier this year at the city of vancouver called their triple a guidelines. all ages and abilities of cycling groups is similar to the building blocks but the problem i see with a lot of these is that when we're talking about biking the way that we talk

about accessibility doesn't often either include people with disabilities like the triple a guidelines of vancouver and i attended a conference where they presented this and like this is really great for everyone, people of all ages and abilities and i said, great, this is about accessible bike lanes and we're saying are you talking about people with disabilities and they said, no, but look at all of these other things and i thought, hmm, maybe there's a problem there. and we looked at the building block documents, it's not dynamic and it doesn't -- it's not the reality of what we see on our streets and we see bike infrastructure go in and it doesn't work for a lot of people with disabilities. so this next slide, what is the reality what we see? the reality is what you see on the left, even though we have this building blocks guidelines, the photo is of two and f. theye

of f.d.a. where the streets just aren't designed and this is seventh street? sonoma -- street in sonoma where the new protected bike lane went in and there's not sufficient travel space for people like jessica who is in a motorized wheelchair. and that while it's great for biking as you can see for pi on the bike on the left, the infrastructure design, there still could be improvements. on the right what we see is cali bike, this is a bicycle coalition, and it's still pushing for in 2017 the idaho stop law, what you may have heard a law in 2015 which i know was in conflict with a lot of folks, probably council members here and certain with folks at m.o.d. and, you know, if this is the

reality i would say that is really not okay and that bike advocates need to be engaging accessibility folks and disability advocates early and often and not allow these things to be the reality after the fa fact. >> can you explain what the idaho stop is? >> sorry, idaho stop is a law in idaho, where bicyclists can treat stop signs as yield, meaning you do not need to come to a full stop. and i think that in idaho additionally that bicyclists can treat red lights as stops. this was something that in 2015 that the coalition strongly supported and we did not do our legwork in connecting with pedestrian safety advocates at walk san francisco and not m.o.d. or non-profit advocates in that push and i know that that was very problematic in a

lot of dissent ways. you know -- different ways. sorry, i truly apologize for how we engaged in our advow case and our campaign work. you know, over the last year i have been working more closely with disability advocates in -- i don't want to say clean slate because you cannot erase history but working together to answer -- and this is my final explied my contacslideand my co- how to be allies in safe streets addosadvocacy. and to that point i'll end my presentation and i'm here to either answer questions but more than anything to take your feedback back and i know that you have been in this field of work for a long time and that i'm hoping that we can have conversations off-line and that this really isn't just one meeting or one presentation so i

can check it off my list and say, well, i talked to you all and we'll all good. i see this as a relationship builder in that when an issue comes up that you have a face and a name that you can talk to me and that these conversations continue on a variety of different things, because oftentimes we're working with the same people around a lot of the same issues. >> thank you. i appreciate willing to partner with the council and for you coming forward and, you know, acknowledging people with disabilities and to have that, you know, impact and working with the community. i appreciate that. so i'm going to open up quickly to questions. council member, you have a question? >> thank you. thank you for your presentation, janice and also thank you, you come off very sincere and i think that we all appreciate that and i look forward proved working relationship. my question -- that slide that

you had shown when you referenced the idaho stop, i have a daughter in a wheelchair and we follow pedestrian walking rules. i couldn't understand from that slide what the -- i mean, there's obviously your colleague in a wheelchair and in an automatic wheelchair in the road, but what's the solution there? a wider bike path? i was unclear what was -- >> so the slide was one where it's like the reality, and they were not connected to pictures. one picture was just speaking to the designs are inadequate and that i don't have the solution but i know that we've been working -- i think that nicole has been part of these meetings with other disability advocates and walk s.f. in trying to find improvements to design and really make the building

document more dynamic. and the second photo is a screenshot of the cali bike advocacy and they're pushing for policies without engaging disability advocates early on so they're not connected. >> okay. all right. thank you. so just to be -- from my own understanding and thank you for your patience -- i understand you know if a stop sign is allowed to just be a yield sign for a bicyclist, how that could impact detrimentally people with disabilities who are accustomed to having the crosswalk, etc., and when the walk sign appears that we can go. what is -- beyond that issue, what is the biggest problem that you see in terms of what bikers want? and what the disability

community is saying also needs to be taken into account. >> so i'll answer with two things here. the first thing is just being very clear that the s.f. bicycle coalition is not supporting and not pushing for the idaho stop or what was then called the bike yield law. we are quietly not supporting cali bike and we have not thrown our name and we recognize state level they might still push for that but we're not pushing for that here locally an or doing ay work at the state level on that issue. to your question, you know, as to what do people who bike, what do they want? and it would be -- i would imagine -- similar to saying what would people with disability want for x, y, z, whatever it is and you'll have a diversity for opinion. if you're a mother who bikes and you have two kids on the back, versus if you are a dude wearing a spandex and you just want to zip everywhere or like me who

does no recreational riding and i live in the outer sunset and i just bike to work every day and that's the only biking i do or when i go shopping, and everyone wants different things. so it's really making sure that we're hearing from our members and that we're working with stakeholders across the board and in figuring out what the right thing is, whether it's a policy or whether it's a street design or whatever it is. >> thank you. >> co-chair blackston has a question. >> good presentation. i would like to draw your attention to the blindness community. some of my friends and colleagues who are visually impaired and blind ride bicycles and how do they do that? well, they have partners and someone is on the front of the bike and the blind person is on the back. i know that the lighthouse has -- the lighthouse of the blind here in san francisco and other organizations have outings

where, you know, we can go out on bikes with partners and just have a great time. you know, and that's in all kinds of situations. have you reached out to the blindness community? and can you tell us a little bit about that? >> so, first, you make a great point, terry blackston, that these are not mutually exclusive communities, that there are certainly people with disabilities who also bike and you make a great point on that. and i should have said that earlier that we are not totally different groups of people. in terms of working specifically with the blind community, i have not. i have been on staff for four years and i have not always been in this role and so i will honestly say that in the past two years in this role that i have not.

and i will have to talk to you afterwards to see what joint programming or ways that we could engage, that would be great. >> will do. >> council member alex madrid has a quick question. >> thank you so much for coming and talking to us. my question -- when you showed us the photos of the bike and with the bridges, my confusion is that... with the bike lane, is that right? >> that's a great question and i don't know the exact rules whether people in wheelchairs can use the bike lane, i would defer to fsmta on that.

what i'm trying to show in that photo is that there isn't really comfortable space in that buffer area and between where jessica is and where the bike lane is but the design is made for that. and so the design is inadequate. and it is not comfortable for someone in a wheelchair to get out of a car or to get out of what is in that photo is jessica is a transit boarding island. so you're in a wheelchair and getting off the bus and you need to get to a curb cut, that is very uncomfortable because you're so close to the bike lane. let's talk about how, you know, there can be a better design. again, i don't have an answer for that. but this is something that, you know, i'm working with nicole and others on in building better guidelines for bike infrastructure. >> thank you.

>> council member sasoni. >> yes, i -- i do support the san francisco bicycle coalition and i was a cyclist myself for a period of time and i see both the positives and the negatives in encouraging safety and design, well designed streets is really important. and it's hard to know sometimes where to go when you're keeping those things in mind. i feel like i had to stop cycling for safety reasons and i'm no longer comfortable doing that and, you know, i think that some people are incredible cyclists but i personally don't cycle anymore just because i didn't feel like a safe option for me. and so i think that, you know, i think that the san francisco bicycle coalition has a way of keeping the city on their toes and the ways that you promote different types of programs and continued advocacy keeps the city focused with this aspect in

mind as far as design and i'm, you know, a huge supporter of that so great job. that aside, as a deaf person, it was difficult to go to your workshops and there wasn't accessibility in your workshops provided and the only time that i was able to go to one is when it was held in the san francisco public library and they were responsible for providing access. so it's great to have a bicycle culture and so forth and it was fun and there's benefits to that, but from an accessibility standpoint i just wanted you to know that it was difficult to navigate your organization for this reason specifically, access for deaf patrons. and last thing that i wanted to mention is that the golden gate park thing, i really hope that san francisco bike coalition works on that j.f.k. drive initiative. i know that they are focused in on expanding that so that there's a cycling and a

pedestrian lane so i'm a mom and, you know, i just think about, you know, how that would be great but there's always an issue for parking there and i would prefer that that initiative is left -- i like the current situation of how that street is designed and i don't think that some of the points in the initiative are actually things that i support and i do like the sunday streets idea and it's an important one for working with the community, especially focusing on the museum and other patrons that frequent the events and buildings and places inside of the park, just some things to consider. >> i have a question for this council member. is that okay? >> yes. >> so you mentioned that you no longer bike because you don't feel safe? can you explain by what you mean by not feeling safe in san francisco? >> yeah, for example, some of

the street lights, you know, there's not enough adequate lighting for me to ride and at a red light, you know, of course i would stop at that -- i don't -- i wouldn't blow a stop sign or a stoplight. so, you know, it makes sense and i think that there's common sense approaches to cycling that i would follow some of the rules but not everyone necessarily did. and some of the ways that the cycling community navigates some of the streets and so forth isn't very safe so it gets a little sticky in that and when you're adding the aspect of traffic and cars to consider and buses and, you know, pedestrians and all kinds of things it just didn't feel like a safe option to me anymore. i think that even the most densely used areas, this is in particular what i'm talking about and i don't think that there's supplies in some of the more quiet neighborhoods but

definitely for the urban areas that are quite densely packed that was an issue. and it feels like a soup of things and pedestrians and bicyclists and people in the mix. >> thank you. >> thank you, council members and i'll close the question from the council. staff, any questions? >> this is nicole. >> there we are. hello. >> thank you, janice, for being here today and i wanted to echo on behalf of the benefit of the council that the work that janice has done with us, especially in the last year, with my coming on board and we've really had an opportunity to reengage with the bicycle coalition and i want to say on behalf of all of us that we appreciate that and we know that in learning how we can best work together that there's a lot that we can learn and we have been learning from each other and i want to echo that things in

gratitude and to say that we really appreciate your being present in these conversations and i was actually invited as part of that -- as part of our walk through to look at different parking -- or protected bike lanes to see what some of the -- some of the analysis was and i'll say that it was very educational experience for me and janice and the bicycle coalition were completely engaged in that process and i suspect that we'll continue to be as well as the other issues that -- as they cross our communities. so i just wanted to say thank you for that and we want to also support the bicycle coalition as best as we can. >> thank you. >> through the chair, thank you, janice, for being here and for being honest about the problematic relationship that

has been between the disability community and the bicyclists community historically. we look forward to cleaning our slate. and i think that coming here and having this conversation is certainly a good start. now, there are a couple of issues in the disability community that we certainly hear about, i personally feel strongly about, and one of them is the sort of cavalier attitude of some bicyclists who are probably not members of your organization, i guess that one of the prototypes that you described, the dude in his spandex zipping throughout the city, and when jim blackston talked about the lighthouse and folks with visual disabilities i thought that he'd mention that is the whole cavalier attitude of blowing through crosswalks

and blowing through stops. kind of cutting in front of people with disabilities on the curb cuts and getting on the sidewalk. and some of the behaviors that don't help to build a good cooperative name or reputation. and so i'm wondering about specific efforts that you are doing around educating your members. perhaps working with the policy initiative around registration of people who have bicycles, who ride bicycles, full-time. perhaps other innovative programs that you may come up with so that we can really help to educate and to sort of make it a safer space and a safe sharing of the road. the other issue that there's a lot of commotion in the disability community is around the parking in protected bike

lanes and for a lot of folks with disabilities who drive adaptive vehicles with the lift that is on board into the sidewalk itself, is a huge loss. in terms of parking space that we are able to use. i know that there's a general push to drive less and bike more or take public transit more, which i certainly support but in the cold, rainy weathers of san francisco that may not be a possibility for a lot of us. so, again, i support the idea of safety for everybody and, again, bicycling is a gentler form of exercise for many people with chronic health disabilities, and, certainly, others with physical conditions, members of

our community, and everybody should be safe on the street. but there has to be a way to be able to not limit access for other folks. so those are just my two comments from my multiple years of hearing the gripes about the strained relationship and i wonder if you have any ideas or thoughts around the behavior part. >> absolutely. so i don't want to prolong this so, please, you know, as we certainly can talk offline but to give a brief response here, yes, those folks exist. some things that we do is that we're often out on the street at some of the busiest, you know, bike routes, constantly, and i brought some of these here, unfortunately, well, they're in english and chinese but they're only written flyers that show all of the rules of the road

that we put in -- whether it's a bike-to-work day, and meetings like this and all of our educations, always, always based on rules of the road whether you're just learning how to ride a bike to the most experienced bicyclist and we're always pushing out the rules of the road. does that get to everyone? no. i'm very open to different places that we can be holding more bike education and different communities, when we do streetside education i'm always trying to figure out different locations that we can really get to people. and we're, like, our most successful education is when we're able to partner with different generally community-based organizations and bring their membership and their constituents together. because we can then reach beyond our -- just our membership. because if we're just talking to our membership or the people who want to read this, you're just preaching to the choir so help me to preach to the non-choir, i don't know what that is, but, you know, let me know what that is. just overall though, we really

think that streets don't work in a lot of different ways and that a lot of this comes down to having better designs that encourages the right behavior. when you don't have a crosswalk, for example, you get people who cross, you know, midblock and who run across street if the crosswalks are really far away. if you have a stop sign where you should really have a light you probably see a lot of drivers not fully stopping at the stop sign and, you know, i don't know if that is actually true, but you need to design the streets in a way that actually keeps people safe intuitivity and not just have a sign or a policy or enforcement that tells you not to do that because studies have shown that is not effective. so, you know, this is a problem for all road users, but i think that it really comes down to who are the most vulnerable on our streets and so when we do push for policies we want to make sure that we're always protecting the most vulnerable and we know that people with

disabilities and seniors are unequally affected when it comes to traffic violence. you know, and then next are people on bikes and so however we work together to protect our vulnerable road users and we are open to discussing policies to that end. >> i think that you guys should do a kindness outreach project at 1155 market, because we have a mid-block crosswalk and a light and i personally have been hit twice over the last years. >> i'm sorry, yes, we did once but i admit that was probably two years ago, but we should make a return to that location in front of your office. >> thank you. we look forward to partnering with you. i'm going to open it up to public comment. >> we do have a speaker card, mr. lanholt?

>> i would say that my contact information is the last page here and you can reach out to nicole and she can share that as well. >> thank you. >> i'm bob lanholt. myself and other people with disabilities have had the pleasure to talk to miss li on various public issues and it's borne fruit and the board of directors approved a project that benefits both people with disabilities and people who bicycle on 17th and church near everett middle school. there was no crosswalk and people in wheelchairs would have to take a circuitous route and go across steel rails for the f streetcar. so the m.t.a. staff heard both of our constituencies needs and interests and came up with a solution. there's already some actions where two groups are working together and i want to try to help to break down the stereotypes. in the late 1990 is when i was a chair