education around this issue. because sometimes budgeting matters get complicated. it's been a great experience trying to explain to everyone what exactly this measure does and how it relates to the rest of the city's budget. with that said, we certainly heard from folks that they wanted more time to chime in on this. at this time, i'd like o continue this for discussion on the -- like to continue this for discussion on the november ballot. i don't know if we table it or discontinue it. >> deputy city attorney. >> deputy city attorney john jon givner. if you table it to the chair, it's best to amend the date as supervisor safai did with the charter amendment so the clerk doesn't file it after the march deadline. >> per that recommendation, i'd like to amend the date like

supervisor safai did on the m.t.a. measure so our intention is to continue the discussion as it relates to the november ballot measure. but of course, as i said last time, if anyone wants to reach out to our office to learn more and gain a better understanding of what this would do or suggestions you you have, please contact my office. colleagues, after public comment, i would like to have you make a motion to that effect. >> thank you, any other colleagues wish to comment on this item? right now? let's take public comment. any memples the public wish to comment, please come forward. waw to line up to the right. -- if you want to line up to the right, you have two minutes. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm co-chair of the [inaudible] coalition.

i'm here on behalf of the coalition. we're happy with supervisor tang to continue this item to the november ballot. many of my colleagues stated at the hearing last week, we're strongly opposed to this legislation in the current form for attempting to claw back funding from the dignity fund as it was intended to be as the voters stated in the 2016 per dedicated funding, that's what we wanted it to be. we needed to grow for future needs of the growing disability and senior community. we are dedicated to having a dialogue with supervisor tang and her office between now and november. we appreciate the supervisor

tang wanting us to have a dialogue. we look forward to communicating more with her office in expressing our opposition to any future legislation. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker. >> i'm margaret broadkin and i have a deep interest in the children's fund as i believe you know, having been involved in the creation ever the children's fund. i'm so happy to hear you are going to continue this. this has not been a conversation, there needs to be a much more robust conversation. i did want to point out that it is a cut when you propose a flat

budget to any program or labor group. it's a cut in their ability to provide services. it's a cut in a family's ability to support themselves. i don't think it is fair to say this isn't a cut. i would propose that the current measure has a lot of problems in it. some of which are specific, but very general problem that i see if you want to continue with a discussion, i think we should start again. i think we should ask ourselves the question of why in this very rich city are we talking about budget deficits and that when we have that conversation, that all of the players with who are stakeholders in the budget participate in that. that would include labor. that would include capital costs. that would include departments. that would include police and fire. not just have a conversation about the very things that the public has voted on as

priorities and were voted on because they weren't given adequate attention in the budget. thank you. [applause] >> next speaker. >> goomp. my name is reese, i'm -- good afternoon, my name is reese. i'm with friends of the public library. i want to thanks for continuing this conversation. as we discussed last week, there is a number of concerns, i think, that we would like to address. there is a number of concerns generally that i know you are trying to address. i'd be happy to and i know our organization would be happy to talk with you and work with you further on your interests in this overall issue and how we can work together on it for the future. again, just like margaret seed, you know -- margaret said, the library happened through this because originally there were a

number of cuts happening before the citizens took it to the ballot. we'd like to talk with you further about how this would move forward. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i'm michael bleker. i want to speak in opposition to the charter amendment and hopefully it will have some changes. specifically, i want to speak on behalf of the dignity fund which is opened the system up for seniors, the growing problem of seniors and disabled adults in san francisco. where i work, we see an increasing number of seniors. there are approximately 30,000 veterans in san francisco. 30% are seniors. it's a problem that has not been addressed by the current budget process. this is a way, this is what we do, went directly to the ballot

and vets were called out in that proposition. it was a way for us to get into the system which hadn't been addressing our needs. it calls for an assessment of the what needs are for seniors in san francisco. that will be -- we'll follow that and look to that for the direction, but again, this charter amendment is not really the way to handle that. we'd love to see, you know, the flawed system addressed in a transparent way. we know that it could be improved and we look forward to that. thank you. >> hello supervisors, debbie from the san francisco human services network. i also spoke last week. i'm going to not repeat myself and just say that i think

margaret put it so well, that i want to parrot everything she said. i also keep thinking about something supervisor peskin said last week that it's a practical matter. this is a ready-made charter amendment with built-in opposition from everybody i can think of. people with children will hate it, senior also anticipate haight it. people who go to the park also hate it. it's going to be a difficult haul on the ballot with such built-in opposition at every level. without a conversation, and a good solid policy conversation with stakeholders, i don't see how satisfied reform is going to even work or is going to pass. so, because of that, i really appreciate you listening to the stakeholders.

and having this deferred to november will take into account all the set-a sides we have in the city and hopefully something can be agreed upon to address those conversation conversationt picking winners and losers. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is lisa. i'm here with the [inaudible] i wanted to thank you first for listening. last week we came and we spoke and especially to supervisor fewer and supervisor [inaudible]

when they said at the moment they could not be in support of this. to you too, because i think that it is great that for the first time in so many years that i've been coming here, i feel like you guys started to listen to the community. thank you. and i hope that something better can happen and that this measure doesn't lead to be impulsed. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> hi, katie norman. you know me. sueser pfeifer. i'm a member of the fdr democratic club for seniors and people with disabilities. we've been part of the dignity fund coalition since the passage of it. i know the legislation called

for real needs to adapt to the changing needs. right now the funds can be rolled over and used for other needs as the year goes on or the next year. the fdr club gave the dig noit - dignity colaition their award because i've witnessed the carefulness with with which this organization issued the funds, they know this is precious money and it saves and enhances lives. this protects people's lives. they have been so careful with administering the funds. i would hate to see it go away. this is something historic and i'm proud of san francisco for passing. and i hope we can keep it going. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> i'm the organizer of [inaudible]

we'd like to add our voice to everyone who has spoken. also, many of the society-asides built in inequities. hting for the same things and set-asides protect our population. trigger cuts somehow, i don't think we need them because there is a built-in reduction. many of the set-asides go down. that's how i understand it. i appreciate this chance to talk more about this. i think these are voter han vot- voter-approved mandates. we have to honor that. we are san francisco. we want to protect the programss that are near and dear to our

hearts. thank you very much for listening to us and for considering more discussions and make it a meaningful amendment, if needed, thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon committee members. i'm john osaki. seeing how the legislation is going to get delayed, i'll represent them. i didn't get a chance to express my views on this last week, so i thought i'd talk a few moments do that here today. i think all of us should be concerned about the so solvencyf the city and finances. if this measure is meant to help address that, then in the months ahead, i urge you and all of you

to look at this, not just from the standpoint of how set-asides effect the solvency of the city, but how many factors affect the solvency of the city. i don't think i have to tell you that the projected deficits we're looking at in the future are not because of set-asides. there are many factors contributing to that. if that is the goal, then let's look at this in a holistic manner and not single out specific issues and, in this case, resources that are -- i have to say this, that many of us feel that when times get tough, they're seen as nonessential. they're seen as services that are not critical to people and i think what i feel, and i think what many of the people here feel is that the services are

vital to the people we serve and well-being of san franciscans. if we're going to address the issue of solvency, let's take it from a holistic view. thank you, very much. >> next speaker and if anyone else wants to comment, please line up by the podium. >> good afternoon. i was here last week. i'm working for the population homelessness for over two decades. 24 years. so what i want to talk about is our families, homelessness. first thing i would like to ask you or tell you, if you want to do changes, if you want to do

these amendment changes in doing something different for better, i would love to see you guys go into the community and involving all the community. i don't think the process is involving the community. it can be at some point, but i really, when you guys go down to the community and assemble with them and collect recommendations from the community, these kinds ever changes can be more valuable. when it comes this way, and doing the changes, this way is not going to work. you want to make noises. we have to understand that we have so many homeless people in san francisco. we have more than a thousand meme that need to go to a shelter. it's cold like hell. imagine if you and your kids or if you want to go to sleep at

night, this a serious issue. i would like to work together and create something more realistic about how we want to end homelessness. how we want to create housing. so i would like to be part of this process and would like to invite the families and homeless people together to come together with us and decide how -- >> thank you. thank you.

[off mic] i apologize because i have to cut your time off because everybody needs the same amount of time. >> [off mic] >> thank you. thank you for your comments, sir. thank you. and any other members of the public who would like to speak on this item? seeing none, i don't know who the vice chair is here, but if he can close public comment. okay. >> i think public comment is closed. have we made a motion on this? >> no, i wanted to respond quickly to the members who came out and thawpg for your input. as i -- thank you for your

input. when supervisor peskin took up this measure, we knew it was unpopular to do this. but being the two members of the board who care a lot about our city's financial health, we felt it was a conversation definitely worth starting. as you can see, many of you work hard in your fields, care a lot about your work and all of your baselines set-asides that you helped get on to the ballot and successfully reflect the value that all of us share in your work. i want to acknowledge that. we as solemakers, when we're -- policymakers when we're budgeting, we have to make really difficult tradeoffs that i think, you know, members, if you care about the libraries, you don't have to make the tradeoff. if you care about children funds, you don't have to make the tradeoff.

we do when it bad budget times, we're forced to decide whether we close the homeless shelter or increase the baseline. that puts us in an unpopular position. but this is a dialogue i think is worth having. with that said, i look forward to the conversation. this is not the only measure or only tool i think to address our budget issues. i know many people are working on a variety of things to address our city's financial health in the future. this is not the only thing. in fact, i don't think this does very much. with at that said, colleagues, i'd like to ask a committee member to make a motion to amend the november ballot and amend to the call of the chair. >> i'll make that motion. but before we finish this up, i'd like to say again, i want to

thank supervisor tang and peskin for bringing this issue forward as a discussion. i think it's only fair, i mean as some of the public mentioned, that when you look at what is causing any type of deficit, is it because of these set-asides alone? or are there other issues. as we all know, one of the things we keep on talking about, as an issue we need to tackle at some point, we just keep on kicking this issue -- kicking it down the line, which is really, the pension issue. i think at some point, ey a fewf us need to bring it up and say, by the way, to keep us healthy financially in the city, we need to take on this issue. once again, thank you very much. i made a motion.

>> i second that. >> okay. can you repeat the motion for me, please? can you repeat -- we're amending iuntil the november ballot. first and seconded the item is moved and ordered. please call the next item. >> we're going back to item three which has been called but for the members of the public, it's a charter amend regarding revenue bonds for the power facilities. >> we've been joined in the chamber by supervisor peskin workinworking with supervisor tn this item. >> thank you. we have one small amendment. i apologize for not bringing copies. but the city attorney can read it to you and hopefully my staff will come with a hard copy for you to see. it is a very small amendment suggested by the former general

manager of the public utilities commission that seems to be acceptable to all parties. >> can i ask a point of clarification on your amendment. will this require us to have an additional hearing? >> yes, any amendment to charter amendment will require an additional hearing. >> is this amendment that you're making, is it -- can you talk a little bit about it? is it something that is necessary? >> so, i think that staff from the p.u.c. feels that it will give them more flexibility. so to that end, i think -- because you don't have another special meeting. >> we would have to schedule an additional meeting to have an additional hearing. maybe john, can you come forward?

or -- i didn't see you there. >> general manager for power. so as the supervisor mentioned, we've taken some additional input from former general manager and controller ed herrington who has been working in his retirement on change tots rules. the rule changes will be coming out. they're the accounting rules that apply, lay the foundation for bonds and our relationship with the bond community. the legislation will provide us with more flexibility, the changes that are coming forward through the accounting standards board are allowing for additional assets to be capitalized. we want to make sure that the language in the city charter supports that. so we are supportive of the amendment that the supervisor

has brought to you. >> now to read it into the record, the language, thank you to my staff. you see in red, and adds otherwise for any lawful purpose of the clean water or power utilities of the city and furtherance of the purposes here prprovided,. >> okay. any additional questions or comments? seems like that sentence repeated itself. but that's okay. they say that's what we need to have. i guess -- or otherwise any lawful purpose. that sounds like that's the operative change. deputy city attorney, givner, do you want to opine on this? for those of us who are not attorneys, it sounds like the sentence repeated itself.

>> deputy -- >> you say three things in the same way to make it 100 percent clear. i see water, clean water and power. can you tell us why this is necessary? >> it's a policy decision for the board whether to amend this charter amendment. the p.u.c. is requesting it. -- requesting it because of a concern the current charter language constricts the agency's ability to issue revenue bonds for certain types ever projects. >> it look hr -- types of projects. >> it looks like "for any lawful purpose" is the operative word there in addition to everything else. it repeats "of the water or

clean water or purposes herein provided." >> if it was for any lawful purpose, that would be an extremely broad delegation. it is related to water, clean water and power. >> okay. i see a lot of conversations going on. do you want to just -- you feel okay about it? this is what you want? it looks like it says the same thing five times over. i think the -- or otherwise, any lawful purpose, is the operative word. >> as set forth by staff. this will allow for more flexibility and would recommend it. and i thank you because i know it will require one more special meeting. but i promise it will be quick. >> okay. we can -- we'll -- i think we have time next week, end of the week if you guys are around.

we'll work with your staff to make sure that we can. does anyone want to make a motion to accept these amendments? wait, we have public comment. public comment first. any members of the public wish to comment on this item, pleads pleads -- please come forward. seeing none, public comment is closed. >> i make a motion to accept this amend. >> a second without objection. this item is ordered. then this item will be continued to a special hearing either the first or second of february, it looks like. then we'll work with your staff to make sure that works. any other items before us today? >> it will be continue to the kawfl the chair? >> continued to the kawflt chair, yes, sorry. any other items before us today? >> that concludes our business for today. >> thank you very much. we are adjourned.

>> [inaudible] i'm a illustrator by day and a [inaudible] composition teacher. right now i'm practice by transscribing [inaudible] that is what i have been doing the past couple years, teaching myself. california college of the arts, illustration there has really great teachers. robert hunt, vance story taught me a lot. what i'm working on is a portfolio [inaudible] riding a donkey unicorn in the process. >> my name is dawn richardson and musician, drummer and drum teacher. i guess i would say i started my

professional path quh i started playing in bands and teaching drum lesson when i was in college. they were definitely not that many women that would do what is doing. in 198 8 i graduated from cal state los ang and studied mostly classical percussion and music education but at the same time i was in hollywood so played at night in rock bands so was doing two different things. >> the reason i'm [inaudible] the people. there is a extremely vibrant art community especially arounds the red poppy art house [inaudible] as a artist in the past 2 or 3 years there is a event called the [inaudible] every 3 months a free art music festival that i usually play at and just met

so many people. >> i was teaching a little bit and doing odd jobs like waitressing and going at night and playing in bands and meeting a lot of people. i chss in ban that had cool break jz get parts on tv shows or things like that. a friend of mine, we had mutual friends that got signed to a record deal in san francisco called 4 nonblaunds and i addition frd the bands and moved to the bay area. i think things are different now than 30 years ago, the world evolved a lot. it could be a challenge but have to know how to negotiate everything and sometimeatize is [inaudible] it was great to get to a point where i was just treated like another one of the people, a

musician not a female musician and that is always what [inaudible] >> you don't hear stuff on the radio [inaudible] i need to write music [inaudible] be more conscious in their decisions and somehow make that poetic so they will be convinced. i think i will do that. [singing in backgrounds] drawing and writing music since i was a really little kid and fortunate enough to have a good education in art and parentss who supported me. i hope my life will continue to allow me to do both. >> for me now having all male, female girls, boys students it shows the world has changed a lot and people areope toon open to a lot more than they were in the past. you can get a

deep satisfaction from responding a lot of year practicing in one thing and becoming really good at something. sometimes i think that it is better to get lost. you have to practice and become good at what you do, so if you have everything together then go out in the world and do what you do and then i think people weal accept that.

bayview. >> a lot discussion how residents in san francisco are displaced how businesses are displaced and there's not as much discussion how many nonprofits are displaced i think a general concern in the arts community is the testimony loss of performance spaces and venues no renderings for establishes when our lease is up you have to deal with what the market bears in terms of of

rent. >> nonprofits can't afford to operate here. >> my name is bill henry the executive director of aids passage l lp provides services for people with hispanics and aids and 9 advertising that fight for the clients in housing insurance and migration in the last two years we negotiated a lease that saw 0 rent more than doubled. >> my name is ross the executive directors of current pulls for the last 10 years at 9 and mission we were known for the projection of sfwrath with taking art and moving both a experiment art our lease expired our rent went from 5 thousand dollars to $10,000 a most. >> and chad of the arts project pursue. >> the evolution of the orientation the focus on art

education between children and patrol officer artist we offer a full range of rhythms and dance and theatre music theatre about in the last few years it is more and more difficult to find space for the program that we run. >> i'm the nonprofit manager for the mayor's office of economic workforce development one of the reasons why the mayor has invested in nonprofit displacement is because of the challenge and because nonprofits often commute technical assistance to understand the negotiate for a commercial lease. >> snooechlz is rob the executive director and co-founder of at the crossroads we want to reach the disconnected young people not streets of san francisco for young adults are kicked out of

the services our building was sold no 2015 they let us know they'll not renew our lease the last year's the city with the nonprofit displacement litigation program held over 75 nonprofits financial sanction and technical assistance. >> fortunate the city hesitate set aside funds for businesses facing increased rent we believable to get some relief in the form of a grant that helped us to cover the increase in rent our rent had been around $40,000 a year now $87,000 taylor's dollars a year we got a grant that covered 22 thousands of that but and came to the minnesota street project in two people that development in the

better streets plan project they saved us space for a nonprofit organization national anthem and turned out the northern california fund they accepted us into the real estate program to see if we could withstand the stress and after the program was in full swinging skinning they brought up the litigation fund and the grants were made we applied for that we received a one thousand dollars granted and that grant allowed us to move in to the space to finish the space as we needed it to furniture is for classes the building opened on schedule on march 18, 2016 and by july we were teaching classed here. >> which we found out we were going to have to leave it was overwhelm didn't know anything about commercial real estate we

suggested to a bunch of people to look at the nonprofits displacement mitigation program you have access to commercial real estate either city owned or city leased and a city lease space become available there is a $946,000 grant that is provided through the mayor's office of economic workforce development and that's going to go towards boulder the space covers a little bit less than half the cost it is critical. >> the purpose of the organization trust to stabilize the arts in san francisco working with local agency i go like the northern california platoon fund that helped to establish documents of our long track record of stvent and working to find the right partner with the organization of our size and budget the opportunity with the purchase of

property we're sitting in the former disposal house theatre that expired 5 to 10 years ago we get to operate under the old lease and not receive a rent increase for the next 5 to 7 years we'll renting $10,000 square feet for the next 5 to seven years we pay off the balance of the purpose of this and the cost of the renovation. >> the loophole will that is unfortunate fortunate we have buy out a reserve our organization not reduce the services found a way to send some of the reserves to be able to continue the serves we know our clients need them we were able to get relief when was needed the most as we were fortunate to arrive that he location at the time, we did in that regard the city has been -

we've had tremendous support from the mayor's office of economic workforce development and apg and helped to roommate the facade of the building and complete the renovation inside of the building without the sport support. >> our lease is for 5 years with a 5 year onyx by the city has an 86 year lease that made that clear as long as we're doing the work we've been we should be able to stay there for decades and decades. >> the single most important thing we know that is that meaningful. >> it has been here 5 months and even better than that we could image. >> with the economic development have announced an

initiative if ours is a nonprofit or know of a nonprofit looking for more resources they can go to the office of economic workforce development oewd.com slashing nonprofit and found out about the mayors nonprofit mitigation program and the sustainability initiative and find their information through technical assistance as much as how to get started with more fundraising or the real estate assistance and they can find my contact and reach out to me through the circles of the city through the

>> welcome to the january 17th, 2018 meeting of the san francisco board of appeals. the presiding officer this evening is board president darryl honda. he's joined tonight by our vice president frank fung, commissioner ann lazarus and bobbie wilson. rick swig will be absent. brad rusty is a deputy city attorney. he'll provide the board with any legal advice tonight. gary cantera is the board legal assistant. i'm cynthia goldsteen. we're also joined by represent from the city department. at the table in front is corey tee the assistant zoning administrator. he's also representing the planning