>> well, that's -- what do you want us to do with this? >> do you want to continue it so that i can look into it further? i have no problem with that. >> you can do your thing on the permit. >> yes. >> on your own time. >> that's right. you can approve the permit and i can -- >> or you want to resolve this in a final way? >> well, if the permit -- if we find out, for example, that it wasn't four levels of occupancy that's reflected on the permit, the permit is reflecting four existing levels of occupancy, legal levels. >> then it would have the permit application would have to be changed. >> it would need a revision permit. that would -- i disagree with mr. hammond there respectfully. i think dbi would be looking at the sprinkler require many going from three to four, but it's entirely possible it's an existing -- that's -- we can deal with it on a continuance or approve the --

>> it makes sense for both -- if they have the ability to negotiate, that's fine. but for us, the question of whatever is required, if it needs to be revision, they're smarter to have us incorporate that revision into the permit set instead of having to go wait for another period of time ha that it takes. >> and it's appealable. >> you're saying a continuance. >> i think it makes more sense for all parties. >> and are you, again, the appellant, talked about access to that area in her house, access to that area in a twin house on one side and then we just heard that, you know, there are stairs up to that -- formal stairs up to that area in the demolition. wouldn't there be a permit on

file. >> not from 1900. >> no. no. if there was, it wouldn't be a broad assumption -- unreasonable assumption. if there was the assumption those houses were, in fact, triplets and that the project sponsor's house had a change sometime, would there not be a permit on file for that change or on your site visit, could you tell there might have been an augmentation without a permit. >> that's a good question. we have ways of -- we can order the microfilament and we can look at it. we can work with the permit holder to figure it out. it's an amendment to the permit. it needs to be made if that's the case. and maybe the sprinkler requirement may kick in.

the gentleman referenced an information sheet. i don't have that with me tonight. it wasn't really part of the brief. but if -- i would like to do more research with the plans department and records department and make sure what they're putting down is what they're doing. there's no problem with having the four levels, but if it's going from three to four, we want that reflected. we want to do what needs to be -- >> it could be true, but a 1900 area feet, each one of these full foot prints are 800 to 1200. if it's 1900 square feet, how do you get two living levels and a den and that space that comes out to at least 2300 square feet. >> and when we reach -- whenever we deal with these -- and we deal with it all the time. we put the onuses on the property owner or the architect to show us documentation that we're wrong. then we just amend the permit to reflect that you're getting that additional square foot because you want to get credit for it.

the property profile won't change from 1900 on this permit if it's being reflected as existing and no change, which could be wrong. so we want to get it right. >> i agree. >> that recognition of 2300 square feet versus what it's listed at might trigger and then recognition of what is the true configuration may trigger at that point automatically the sprinkler issue. okay. so then we need to move this -- allow you some time to figure this all out. >> this isn't at proved set in the brief. this was not the dbi approved set. there could be a note on there from us about sprinklers that i can't see. >> okay. >> and i think that the owner was saying they were going to do it, but mr. hammond said they weren't. it could be something on the approved plans addressing that. >> if we move to move this to a later date, then we also would ask that the -- a clear, current

and proper set of plans as submitted to dbi would be submitted in conjunction. >> yeah. i think continue it. >> how much time do you need. >> a couple weeks. >> i think that's the going rate right now. >> two weeks or four weeks. >> two weeks is plenty for me. >> if it's two weeks, if you're submitting anything it has to be done by next thursday. >> okay. >> if he's submitting something in writing. is he going to submit something in writing. >> or you want to give an oral analysis. >> i prefer to do an oral analysis. i can work with the department holder on this all the time. >> does march 7th work for you? [ off microphone ] >> okay.

>> all right. move to continue the item until march 7th to allow dbi to confirm the number of stories of the building. >> okay. >> on that motion from commissioner lazarus to continue this matter to march 7th, 2018 to allow time for dbi to confirm the number of stories in the subject property, president fung. [ roll call ] >> that motion passes. this matter is continued. >> no further business, president. >> good night. .

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city and county of san francisco >> my name is philbegiginsburge director of your parks and rec department. welcome to this balmy valentine's eve. [ inaudible ] he thinks the big red slide was always fun, but this isn't about him. it was her, as much as ever. he missed her, hanging from her jungle gym lips, swinging through memories. creaky hinges for laughs, but what does a child on the playground know of love, except that paradise is here and now beneath his feet.

[applause] >> no, samuel clemens wrote that. i'm just reciting it. so one year ago today on valentine's day, we broke ground on the most transform ative playgrounds in our history. today, on valentine's day we celebrate their grand reopening on a day reserved for expressing love to who we hold most dear. [ inaudible ] today, on valentine's day we express love for our city and its amazing parks system. today on valentine's day, we express love for this place, civic center plaza. this place belongs to all of us, whether you are young or

old, rich or poor, whether you were born here or not. today on valentine's day, we say thank you. first of all to jackie and helen diller foundation. jackie, where are you? jackie, you've been unflinching in your generosity and optimism in our confidence to pull this off. to my colleagues at the trust four public land, your expertise, and your giant collective heart have helped make san francisco parks better. your work is noble and we san franciscans are lucky to play on your home court. thank you to my professional family at rpd, your professionalism, yu your competence and commitment are inspiring. special thanks to the park and rec department for your

leadership, and to my staff, and all of our park rangers and all of the park and recs staff are here today. [applause] >> to our city and civic center, cpd partners. there are so many to thank, chief scott and commander lazar is here and the entire sfpd team who has been so helpful. our home department, thank you for your work to showcase the potential of civic center commons as an emerging place of joy, recreation, and civic and community engagement. lastly, to our civic and elected leaders, we thank you. may mayor farrell, supervisor kim,

thank you, for ensuring we have a thriving and equitiable city. our city has one of the nation's best park systems, and it's because of your stewardship and support. a brief remark about our beloved mayor, ed lee. mayor lee was so excited to see the playgrounds open. these playgrounds will for decades project his light. it is my great pleasure to introduce our mayor, mark farrell. mayor farrell grew up in these city parks. he worked at the city recreation and park department, and because of his leadership on proposition b, we are well poised to care for this incredible gift. ladies and gentlemen, mayor farrell. [applause] >> all right. happy valentine's day, everybody. anybody forgot to get flowers,

we've got roses up here for you, by the way. i just want to say who an honor it is to be here. opening up parks is probably the best thing any of us get to do being up here on stage. first of all, i would like to get a round of applause for phil ginser for the entire rec and parks department. yes, i was at rec and parks for an entire summer, and they had me back at city hall. i want to say what an amazing thing to be here tonight to reopen our parks, because parks are all about families, they're about children, they are about seniors. they are the great equalizer in san francisco. it is for everybody in our city to enjoy, and what an amazing place that we have, two new playgrounds in civic center for our city to enjoy. you think about this neighborhood here, where we

have more families living here. you mentioned this is mayor lee's legacy, and i remember working with supervisor kim so closely, we talk about all the improvements going from fulton plaza to here, it's been an amazing transformation over the course of the last few years, and we couldn't do it without or partners, to the jill and helen diller family foundation, thank you for all of your support. please, a round of applause for them. and to all of the parents that are here today, i want to say thank you. thank you for raising your children here in san francisco. we are giving our children an amazing gift that they may not know today, but years later when they can claim to be native san franciscans, when they can claim that they grew up on our parks and

playgrounds, and they can claim to be the new generation of san francisco leaders, they can claim this. so thank you for being here on this amazing night in san francisco, and again, thank you to the entire park and rec department for all of do all the time. thanks, everybody. >> i am now honor today bring up guillermo rodriguez of the state department for public land. they have worked with us to build parks in some of our most needy and challenging communities, and we are the park system we are because of them, and we are so proud to have worked with tpl on this amazing project. guillermo rodriguez. >> thank you, phil, really appreciate that.

the trust for land has a simple mission: land for people, and what that means is not out projecting the sierras, it doesn't just mean growing yosemite park, it means growing cities. the projects in the trust for project land it s in the bayvi, it's in the tenderloin, it's here. we have a goal, a big, audacious goal, that everyone should be a ten-main walk to a park and open space. that's an impressive goal, and for the families who live here in midmarket and the tenderloin and in hayes valley, what an amazing ten-minute walk to come to not just one but two amazing playgrounds, the most inventive, interactive playgrounds in the country.

absolutely amazing. but as philmentioned, a years ago, trust for public land stood with the helen diller family foundation as well as mayor lee, they stood her and said to have a vision for san francisco. the reason we're here one year later is because of the amazing team work that was put together to make this happen. i want to shout out to ph phil ginser and the amazing park and recs department, to all of the staff that have worked with the trust for public land to make this happen, thank you. a shout out -- you'll see it a little later, but to cory barr, who brought light to connect these two places.

my thanks to bossman and plant construction who assembled this all together. >> and i'd be remiss and i didn't comment on another person, alejandra quesada an amazing person, and to all of the park and rec star who put this amazing evening together, thank you. lastly, i have to say none of this would have been possible without the helen diller family foundation. you spent a lot of time going overall the details. the reason we're successful today is because of your personal leadership and

dedication. what a wonderful gift to the people and children of san francisco. thank you, jackie, and the helen diller family foundation. >> thank you, fear mow. before i bring up our next speaker, let me thank alejandra quesada. [ inaudible ] [applause] >> all right. i am so honored to next bring up supervisor jane kim. supervisor kim's been on the board of supervisors since 2010 and has been a fierce and determined advocate for the people in her district, and the idea that everyone deserves accessible open space. we are so proud to have partnered with supervisor kim to have invested more than $30 million in her district in park improvements during her tenure, not just here at helen diller,

but also other projected with tpl, like south park, victoria manolo, and we've got up coming renovations planned. we thank supervisor kim for being such a great park champi champion. [applause]. >> first of all, i should just say i'm one of the lucky san francisco residents who is a 30 second walk from a park and recreation center. i live right across the street from general fred rec center, so i -- gene fred rec center, so i do appreciate the team who does an incredible job activating and maintaining our parks and rec in district six. i am so honored to be here for the third opening of helen

diller park. i still remember when ph phil ginsburg and trust republic land came to my office with the original plans on what we could do to transform the original area. and i had never seen a design to innovative and whimsical, as well. i'm sure many of our adults will be wanting to play on these structures, as well, joining their childrens, in quotation marks. i think it's amazing that we're able to do something so innovative and amazing in san francisco. i represent a district with the smallest number of parks in san francisco. i also want to acknowledge our

residents who have pushed us to prioritize parks and open spaces in our district. i see pat zamora from the boys and girls club, and it is really our residents who have taken the initiative to say we want to rhenvate bodecker park and make it a true oasis for our families and our seniors, and we accomplished that with the trust for public land, thanks inform phil2k3w i gin-- phil ginser and mayor ed lee. we are going to make district six the best place for parks in the city. so i just want to thank

everyone for their immense involvement. i also want to recognize san francisco police department because if not for their partnership at bodecker park, we would not have been able to maintain the beautiful and safe environment that we have there, so i want to recognize the captains and professionals that have maintained that. we have deputy commander chief mike redman, and david lazar. i again want to thank the entire staff at park and recs, and of course we have our own district six representative on rec and park commission, allen lowe. thank you for being the d-6 commissioner on the rec and park commission, and i look forward to playing on the park with all of you. thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you, supervisor. so he's not just the district six commissioner, he actually is the vice chair of the rec and park commission, but he

does advocate hard for these d-6 parks. we are very, very blessed to have an amazing commission, seven citizens that just serve out the city and love the parks and provide us guidance and love and support, and make sure all voices are heard representing our park and rec commission tonight, and i do want to recognize commissioner anderson who is here, the vice president of the rec and park commission, allen lowe. >> so happy valentine's day, everybody. in the spirit of love, i've got to say i love these parks, these new playgrounds. it's creative, the design's inspiring. as supervisor kim said, it's very whimsical. it's a message to all of us, just get out and play, and really, just get out and play,

emergency, and let's dream again. and on behalf of the recreation and park commission, i want to give special thanks to the trust for public land for their continued generosity in supporting our parks, and i want to give a big thanks to jackie shapeer and dan shapeer for the helen diller foundation. we're lucky to have you supporting the city of san francisco. thank you very much. thank you, and enjoy your parks. [applause]. >> thank you so much, commissioner. all right. now, you're going to hear from my customers: three youth, pauli pauline, charlie, and shada, three members of the boys and girls club who hangout at bodecker and will now have the

opportunity to hangout at city center. we have an elementary school student, a middle school student, and a high school student. we're so pleased to bring them up to say a few words. >> all right. before i begin, the fact that everyone here today, everyone's smile made my heart feel warm and tingly inside to fight the cold weather. i believe that playgrounds are important because it provides a safe place for children. i remember the park before the renovation. i remember as a child that this area was a danger zone that i should avoid. i remember finding myself repulsed by the smell emitting from the park, and then, it got

renovated. i was amazed by how much the park changed. the streets were cleaner than they had been since i was a child. i genuinely fell in love with the beauty of this playground, and how well it's been maintained. i also believe that playgrounds are important because of the influence they have on the community, making it more colorful and livly like at bodecker park. imagine all the kids coming together as they laugh and play together, maybe even making new friends along the way. as they grow older, they will look back and tell stories how impactful the civic center playground was to their lives. it was a place making ever lasting friendship, the place they looked forward to going to, and the place they call home.

thank you so much for this beautiful park. [applause] >> hello. my name is pauline, and i'm in 8th grade. i have been a member of the boys and girls club for eight years now, and i sometimes visit bodecker while at the club. i like to do reading and art in my spare time. i have been living in the tenderloin my entire life, and throughout the years, i had spent a good amount of my time at bodecker, ellis, and also helen diller civic center playground. i enjoyed the tire swings, regular swings, and other things at these parks, and i often made my mother and brothers push me around. i like being able to spend some time outside with my friends and being able to leave

technology behind and be with my friends. i wouthink parks are important because it is a way to spend time with the people around you and wind down. it is a way to be active with your friend and possibly make new friends. parks have a magical ability to be able to bring people together to form a small community. it is a great way to stay active and improve your communication skills, plus, it's always fun to be able to see a new park with brand-new play structures just like this. thank you for giving us this park. [applause]. >> hello. my name is shada, and i'm in sixth grade, and i have been a member of the san francisco boys and girls club in the

tenderloin for six years. i love to read and watch harry potter, and i also love to swim. i lived in the tenderloin for seven years, and in that time, i have really enjoyed going to bodecker park, because it has swings, i climb the web, and it is a place to have fun. i am excited to have this park, because i want to see how people enjoy the new structures. whenever there's a new park, i try to go on everything there. if there's a new slide or monkey bars, i go on them. i am excited to try everything this park has to offer. i think parks are important because they are a place where kids learn to play with other kids, and they help us to be active. also, parks are entertaining. to me, a park is where teams, kids and eve adults can gather up and play. they can share laughs, games, and most importantly friendship.

also, what if there were no such things as parks? where would kids gather and hangout? for those reasons, i think parks are important. thank you [applause]. >> weren't they wonderful? all right, guys. for you, for you, and for you. all right. before we -- we get the show on the road and we flip the switch, and i bring up our very special honored guest, let me just offer a few additional thank yous. this effort at civic center, there are a lot of folks who are really investing a lot of love and attention, and i want to thank the downtown street team, i want to thank hunters.family, i want to thank the civic center ebd, i want to thank our city administrator, naomi kelley, and the very special amy cohen for all of our civic center comments where amy has been very much of a

driver in getting numerous city agencies and nonprofit partners to work together to make this a happier and healthier place, and amy, i'd like to recognize you as one of us as well. also, my profound thanks to jorge arias and the whole team from bossman construction, and to the amazing andy cochran for such an inspired design. but our most important guest tonight, and she's so modest, and doesn't like taking credit, and she's sitting in the back. she's my hero, and my dear, dear, dear friend, jackie. this is for you; and now is the time for us to actually flip the switch. so why don't you and our three friends lead us in a count down. >> right on. >> all right.

we're going to count down from ten. all right. here we go. ready, everybody! ten. nine. eight. seven, six. five. four. three. two. one. if everybody can turnaround and look in the square right here, and there's a tv camera. all right. the helen diller playground contains some of the most innohave ati innovative and interactive lighting programs on any playgrounds. we've designed each to compliment the play found. the first piece connects the two playground with a forest of lighting fixtures spread across

each playground. we call them pixel poles. they animate and grow like they have captured fog inside them. when visitors move in front of the poles, they lite up and slash with colors. the pixel poles have custom lighting fixtures created specifically for these playgrounds that exist nowhere else. the second project covers the plaza right in front of you all between the playgrounds. we call it carl. we wanted to ask, what if san francisco's fog settled down in the plazs to play wi-- plaza th

visitors. he likes to connect to different groups of people, so you may see the light forming connections across the plaza. it takes a great and ad venturo adventurous team to make this happen. this is a new combination of public instruction with custom hardware and software. they can grow and aadapt as the city changes. for the next month we'll be watching to see how the public plays and dialing in the project personalities to match. this new combination of playground building with new technologies will let us adapt to a changing city and kids at play. i would like to introduce the margaret general kins dan-- je dance company, which has

adapted movement for this celebration. the dancers are aalex carington, chin

>> four, three, two, one. welcome to the helen diller civic center playground. [applause].

>> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance?

>> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the

weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it

bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question.

>> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances

buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you

are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ?

>> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage.

when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake. >> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for >> secretary: re.

>> thank you. >> here we go. >> secretary: good morning. today is wednesday, february 21st, 2018. this is a meeting of the abatement appeals board. the first item on the agenda is roll call. vice president gilman? commissioner mccarthy, commissioner warshell and commissioner clinch is excused. next item is the out. all parties giving testimony please stand and raise your right hand. anyone who is planning to speak should stand. do you severe weather the testimony you're about the give is the truth to the best of your knowledge?