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i commend you on your passion and thank you for your service. >> thank you, i'd love to have a cup of coffee some day. >> if we have questions we'll call you back up. any members of the public wish to comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> supervisor yee: i'll make a positive recommendation to appoint conny ford to city college financial assistance fund oversight committee clerk of the board. >> supervisor safai: great. without objection, that item is moved forward. congratulations. congratulations.
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>> i worked for the new york city mayor office in economic development. i teach economics now in the design mba program at california college of the arts. my children going to school. i learned about the eastern neighborhoods a couple of years ago given my children's school expansion. i spend a lot of time in this
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neighborhood. it was my first exposure to san francisco. where i worked on project including the barclays center in downtown brick lynn, the revitalization of time square as well as lower manhattan after 9/11, i'm really interested in how the city of thinking of wholesale neighborhood in this space. over the couple of years, i've watched the population of the area has grown and changed and how new housing and retail has come in. as the space gets more active in the space of city life i'm interested to see how the city collectcollects input. we're building housing, as you probably know, but i also have my students out in the neighborhood much more than i used to. they interviewed hundreds of homeless residents in the fall. you know, from the perspective
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of students who spend a lot of time in this neighborhood, it's changing quite a bit. i think we're currently the only middle school. as we look at the changing landscape of the neighborhood, we think about things over there in the context of crossing the streets, open space, parks, we are a school that's grounded in civic engagement. we think a lot about the ways in which our students go out in the community and serve the community. it's an interesting moment to me in san francisco and this is the most exciting neighborhood i kind of wish i lived here actually. i'm really excited to hear more about the 16th street plan. i would like the idea of the from' very much. i think the warriors are a very interesting opportunity. i'm interesting in traffic and street crossings and things like that. it's a really important neighborhood we get right as a city. so i'm delated to be here ask to
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present my qualifications to you guys today. >> what's the name of the school your kids go to? >> live oak school. >> ok. >> great. >> any questions? supervisor sheehy has joined us. do you want to say anything? >> well. >> are you here for this item. >> she's my appointment? >> for both. >> you can say you came for that? i'm just kidding. >> i ran down. i met with sarah. her experience in new york and her background makes her extremely well qualified for this position. as a fellow parent, i think her commitment to kids in this city
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is important as we start to talk about how we build out our neighborhoods. the perspective is powerful. >> great. thank you. thank you for joining us. >> any other members of the public wish to comment on this idea. public comment is closed. entertain a motion. supervisor stephanie. >> yes, i move -- now i'm going to get the move wrong. sarah bahat to c7 on the eastern neighborhoods citizen advisory board with recommendations. >> great. and that motion is seconded. congratulations and approved. >> thank you. call the next item. >> item number 6 is ordinance waving refunding investigations fees imposed for persons registered with the office of
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cannabis. >> great. unless there's any initial comments from committee members, i'd like to hand it over to supervisor sheehy. i know he would like to say a few words first. >> sure. i want to recognize nicole elliott from the office of cannabis and what this legislation does is really try to rectify a consequence built into our regulations. we wanted to get everyone, this really relates more it's not about the retail operations. obviously for those of us, stefani you were lucky you were not here for cannabis legislation. >> we can make some amendments so she can participate. >> maybe some public comments, et cetera, et cetera.
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we wanted to bring the supply chain into compliance with the city regulations, city rules and they largely were outside because there was no pathway for them to be functioning as a legal business. unlike the retail operations which were able to function legally as medical cannabis dispensaries. in doing that, they're all coming in seeking licenses and permits for the city, but especially where it goes to land use questions, they haven't been up to code so department of business was there and obviously because they weren't part of a process of getting legalized in the beginning, a lot of code violations are being discovered. now, given the way our rules
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were, cold violations including fines on top of fixing the violations. this is something they cannot wave. we don't want these punitive fines to be a barrier or obstruction or deterrent to businesses coming into the legal market and complying with all of our rules and regulations. so what this legislation does is wave those fines and penalties so that we can continue our work, which i get, i salute director elliott in what must be unimaginably complicated and difficult work getting all these businesses into compliance. we would like to -- what this does is removes the fines and penalties for these businesses as we get them into the legal -- appropriate legal framework and
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in compliance with the rules and regulations in the city and county. >> we thought it was important enough to pull it out of another committee and get it on here. >> thank you. >> you are welcome. >> we felt like that was a necessary move essentially given the fact that the whole conversation, as you've said, when we were drafting the legislation, was to pull people out of the woodwork for lack of a better word and we want to give them the incentive to come forward and be legalized businesses and that process we don't want to penalize them to come forward. so i see a great value in this and i think the trade off is a small amount in terms of what we get in return because director elliott were talk about bringing them out of the shadows allows us to then create revenue for the city and job opportunities and work with them to expand their businesses.
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so, director elliott, did you want to speak on that? >> supervisors, thank you for having me here today and again, thank you for the efforts made to move this out of another committee into this committee so we can move it forward more quickly. as you mentioned, every day these dollars don't go reimbursed to these operators is a day that they have less money to meet compliance we're asking them to meet. registration process was meant to serve as an amnesty process for operators to start working with the city towards compliance and ensuring that we see these operators move towards compliance and providing a fair pathway for them to do that is the only way that we can be successful in creating i legal market place in san francisco and reducing the unregulated market place that previously existed through no quality of
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their own. it is in the best interest to do this so i want to thank you guys for considering this today. i want to give a shout out to the many inspectors who have participated in this process and supervisor sheehy, these are fees being imposed by operators by the department of building inspection and by their inspectors for work done without a permit and so they do not have the authority to not issue these penalties so this ordinance would give them that authority. we're also being joined by inspectors from the department of public-health, the fire department and my office. up to 12 inspectors are visiting these sites on a daily basis. it's been an enormous undertaking and proven to be helpful in preventing life safety issues we're seeing at some of these operators' locations and in starting to move them towards compliance in a fairway. with that, i just want to state
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that this ordinance was heard by the building inspection commission last week and unanimously supported by the commission so they are also in favor of waving these penalties. with that i'm happy to answer questions you may have. >> i think we'll call back up. i have a series of about 50 questions -- >> i'm prepared. [laughter] any members of the public wish to comment on this item. seeing none. public comments closed. any last words supervisor sheehy before we make a motion? >> i just wanted to thank you and the committee for considering this and for taking it on to expedite it. >> you are welcome. >> entertain a motion on this item. >> norman. supervisor yee. >> i'll make a motion. >> to cause and recommendation to the full board. >> i think that's all we need.
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>> does she want it as a committee. expedited. >> no, no. this is good. positive recommendation. >> ok. thank you. do we need to -- that's a good question. do we need to send thought as a committee report to go? >> no. >> it will make the next report. >> ok, great. >> ok. >> so the motion is to send it with a positive recommendation. secondedwithout objection that item is ordered. congratulations. any other matters before us today? >> that concludes our business for today. >> we are adjourned, thank you. .
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>> neighborhood in san francisco are also diverse and fascist as the people that inhabitable them we're in north beach about supervisor peskin will give us a tour and introduce is to what think of i i his favorite district 5 e 3 is in the northwest surrounded by the san francisco bay the district is the boosting chinatown oar embarcadero financial district fisherman's wharf exhibit no. north beach telegraph hill and
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part of union square. >> all of san francisco districts are remarkable i'm honored and delighted to represent really whereas with an the most intact district got chinatown, north beach fisherman's wharf russian hill and knob hill and the northwest waterfront some of the most wealthier and inning e impoverished people in san francisco obgyn siding it is ethically exists a bunch of tight-knit neighborhoods people know he each other by name a wonderful placed physically and socially to be all of the neighborhoods north beach and chinatown the i try to be out in the community as much as and i think, being a the cafe eating
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at the neighborhood lunch place people come up and talk to you, you never have time alone but really it is fun hi, i'm one the owners and is ceo of cafe trespassing in north beach many people refer to cafe trees as a the living room of north beach most of the clients are local and living up the hill come and meet with each other just the way the united states been since 1956 opposed by the grandfather a big people person people had people coming since the day we opened. >> it is of is first place on the west that that exposito 6 years ago but anyone was doing that starbuck's exists and it created a really welcoming pot. it is truly a legacy business
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but more importantly it really at the take care of their community my father from it was formally italy a fisherman and that town very rich in culture and music was a big part of it guitars and sank and combart in the evening that tradition they brought this to the cafe so many characters around here everything has incredible stories by famous folks last week the cafe that paul carr tennessee take care from the jefferson starship hung out the cafe are the famous poet lawrence william getty and jack herb man go hung out. >> they work worked at a play with the god fathers and photos he had his typewriter i wish i
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were here back there it there's a lot of moving parts the meeting spot rich in culture and artists and musicians epic people would talk with you and you'd get >> third thursdays at the commons is a monthly event series to really activate krisk centkrisk -- civic center, fulton mall, and other locations through social operation. >> in 2016, an initiative called the civic center
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progress initiative was launched, it was launched by a bunch of city agencies and community partners, so they really had to figure out how to program these places on a more frequent basis. i'm with the civic center community benefit district, and i'm program manager for the civic center commons. also, third thursdays will have music. that was really important in the planning of these events. >> we wanted to have an artist that appeals to a wide range of tastes. >> i'm the venue manager. good music, good music systems, and real bands with guitar players and drummers. >> we turned uc center and
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fulton street into a place where people want to be to meet, to laugh, and it's just an amazing place to be. there's a number of different exhibits. there's food, wine, cocktails, and the idea, again, is to give people an opportunity to enjoy what really is, you know, one of the great civic faces in america. when you look from the polk street steps, and you look all the way down the plaza, down market street, daniel burns' design, this was meant to be this way. it's really special. >> the city approached us off the grid to provide food and beverages at the event as kind of the core anchor to encourage people who leave a reason to stay. >> it's really vibrant. it's really great, just people walking around having a good
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time. >> this formula is great food, interesting music, and then, we wanted to have something a little more, so we partnered with noise pop, and they brought in some really fun games. we have skeeball, we also have roller skating lessons, and we've got a roller skating rink. >> if you're a passion jail skeeball player like me, and you're deciding whether you're just going to roll the ball up the middle or take a bank shot. >> our goal is to come out and have fun with their neighbors, but our goal is to really see in the comments that it's a place where people want to hold their own public event. >> i think this is a perfect example of all these people working together.
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everybody's kind of come together to provide this support and services that they can to activate this area. >> there's no one agency or organization that really can make this space come alive on its own, and it's really through the collective will, not just of the public sector, but both the public and our business partnerships, our nonprofits partnerships, you know, neighborhood activists. >> i really like it. it's, like, a great way to get people to find out about local things, cuisine, like, it's really great. >> it's a really good environment, really welcoming. like, we're having a great time. >> we want to inspire other people to do this, just using a part of the plaza, and it's also a good way to introduce
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people if they're having a large scale event or small scale event, we'll direct you to the right people at the commons so you can get your event planned. >> being a san francisco based company, it was really important to connect and engage with san franciscans. >> how great is it to come out from city hall and enjoy great music, and be able to enjoy a comtail, maybe throw a bocci ball or skee ball. i find third thursdays to be really reinrig rat reinriggating for me. >> whether you're in the city hall or financial district or
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anywhere, just come on down on third thursdays and enjoy the music, enjoy an adult beverage, enjoy the skee ball; enjoy an adult playground, if you >> a lot a ton with the community and we say to ourselves, there is this one and this one. we all compartmentalize them, we have our own agenda. our agenda is to create great work. if you are interested in that, you are part of our community. >> hello and welcome to brava theater. >> we are trying to figure out a way to make a space where theater and presentation of live work is something that you think
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of the same way that you think of going to the movies. of course, it has been complex in terms of economics, as it is for everyone now. artistically, we have done over 35 projects in four seasons, from producing dance, theater, presenting music, having a full- scale education program, and having more than 50,000 visitors in the building almost every year. a lot of our emerging artists to generate their first projects here, which is great. then we continue to try to support figuring out where those works can go. we have been blessed to have that work produced in new york, going on to the edinburgh festival, the warsaw theater festival. to me, those are great things when you can watch artists who think there is nowhere else that might be interested in you being a woman of color and telling your story and then
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getting excited about it. that is our biggest accomplishment. having artists have become better artists. what is. sheri coming back to brava, here you have this establish, amazing writer who has won a clue -- slew of awards. now she gets to director and work. even though she is this amazing, established writer, the truth is, she is being nurtured as a director and is being given some space to direct. >> the play is described as ceremony and -- where ceremony and theater me. in the indigenous tradition, when you turn 52, it is like the completion of an important era. the importance of the ceremony is to say, you are 52. whenever you have been caring for the first 52 years, it is
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time to let it go. really, here, they have given me carte blanche to do this. i think it is nice for me, in the sense of coming back 25 years later and seeing personally my own evolution as an artist and thinker. the whole effort to put the chicano or indigenous woman's experience on center stage is, in itself, for euro-american theaters, a radical position. because of the state of theater, it is a hard roll to hold up in institution. it is a hard road. i am looking at where we are 25 years later in the bay area, looking at how hard it is for us to strive to keep our theater is going, etc. i like to think that i'm not struggling quite as hard,
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personally, but what i mean by that, the intention, the commitment. particularly, to produce works that would not be produced in other places, and also to really nurture women of color artists. i think that is something that has not shifted for me in those 25 years, and it is good to see that brava remains committed to that kind of work. ♪ >> when people talk about the reflection of the community, we can only go from what we have on our staff. we have a south asian managing director, south african artistic director, latino community out rich person. aside from the staff, the other people, artists that we work with being a reflection of us,
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yes, the community is changing, but brava has always tried to be ahead of that trend. when i came in, i tried to make it about the work that shows the eclectic mission district, as well as serving the mission. those are the types of things that i feel build one brava is
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>> all right. i'm going to go ahead and start this meeting and call it to order. welcome, everyone, to the tuesday, march 6th meeting of the san francisco entertainment commission. my name is bryant tan.
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before i get started with the meeting, i just want to acknowledge that i have been out of commission for a little while, so i just want to thank my fellow commissioners and especially the entertainment commission staff for really continuing to do a great job here on the commission, and holding the summit last week that went very, very well, as far as i've heard. so any way, i just wanted to thank you all. it's been a tough time for me, personally, but all the well wishes, messages of support have been great. so any way, we're going infoto ahead and do a few announcements before we get started. one, keep your cell phones or electronic devices on silent. if you are a member of the public and would like to make a public comment, please do so when i announce is.
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we also have speaker cards up front that you can fill out and hand to our staff. and finally, ithank you sto sf gov for televising this every time we meet. we're going to start with roll call. [ roll call. [ roll call. ] all rig >> all right. so we'll start off with public comment. is there any comments with regard to the meeting agenda that you do not see itemized. seeing none, public comment is closed, and we'll move onto item 2, which is approval of our meeting minutes from february 26, 2018. happy to entertain a motion or any edits as people see them
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necessary. >> i move approval of the minutes. >> i will second that, with the caveat that i think it's time to start spelling my time on this. the "e" and the "i" are switched. it's becoming a trend, but it's time to speak up. >> okay. there's a motion and a second. are there any public comment on our minutes? all right. seeing none, public comment is closed. all right. let's take a vote. [ roll call. ] >> president tan: wasn't here, but -- >> clerk: yeah grient brya. >> president tan: motion passed. we'll move onto our report from our acting director. >> thank you, commissioners. so tonight, i just have a couple of brief updates, i just wanted to update you all on
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your summit that a good majority of you were able to attend. we -- i believe we did a really great job. commissioners were super supportive. i want to give a big shout out for commissioner perez, again, for putting together or marketing materials for the event and making us shine and making us look super professional. he was literally in the office for hours at a time working on this stuff, and i kept saying, you're hired. so thank you so much, and commissioner thomas, thank you, as well for putting together the programming for your section on harm reduction. i thought it was super informative, and that's what i heard from a lot of folks in the audience. and i think, you know, dylan's presentation that he worked on with steven was really informative, as well, and it was a creative conversation and flowed really nicely, and we wound up having about 150 attendees, i'd say, throughout
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the day. a lot of them stayed the entire time. and i think one of the main take aways from that event was, you know, a lot of folks were giving us feedback that day that they really enjoyed the change in venue location, and also using an actual entertainment venue as the location of our summit was a really great way for people to come together and network, and so i think in the future, we already have about three offers of venues to use for future summits, so i think we can get really creative with that. and we actually had nicole elliott there that night -- or that day, presenting on cannabis, and you'll hear from her shortly again, and you'll be able to ask specific questions on cannabis regulation in the city. so do you guys have any questions on that, on the summit? any feedback?
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okay. so other than that, i just wanted to update you guys on fact that we are in the process of hiring two 1842 sound inspectors to fill the one vacancy for an 1842 that used to be full-time, as you recall. so we have already posted that. i had sent you guys the job posting to push out. we had a dozen applicants, we're moving forward and interviewing about half of them in the next week or so. the goal is to actually bring these inspectors on board at the start of april, if possible, and begin training them on all of our policies and procedures and code, and then bringing them out into the field, and so we're hoping to have two more operating enforcement staff in april, and they should be trained up by may, so i will keep you all
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posted on that. do you have any questions in regard -- >> we'll have a full-time and two more part-times? >> yes. and so the part-times will mainly be out on the weekends, and they'll be reporting back to inspector burke. and then, we'll have to play around and see if we're going to be having them come to the hearing, as well or if we're going to sin they siynthesize information they give us. >> will we have three inspectors out in the field at any given time? >> i think we'll have two just because of the materials. we have two vehicles, two sound meters, that type of thing, but during the training, there will be three, yeah. >> great. >> any other questions? okay.
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that's it. >> president tan: all right. is there any public comment on our acting director's report? seeing none, public comment is closed. we'll move onto item number four, the presentation by nicole elliott, director of the san francisco office of cannabis, who will go over the office and entering section of cannabis and entertainment regulation. hello, miss elliott. >> thank you commissioners for having me. nicole elliott, director of the office of cannabis. it's really a pleasure to be in front of you tonight. i view you very much as a sister agency or brother agency, depending on how you want to look at it. i know a number of you guys are familiar with the office of cannabis, what led to the creation and the implementation of the office and the regulations, but for those of you who are not familiar, i'm just going to quickly run you through some historic context, historical context. so preprop 64, of course we had
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medical cannabis activity in san francisco. the activity that's regulated comprehensively was the retail side of it. however, the overall supply chain, of course,ist examine e exists in san francisco. so in anticipation of prove 64 passing and commercial cannabis for adult use purposes, as well, supervisor scott weiner put in place a cannabis state legalization task force, and that is that something that a cup of you guys are familiar with, i know, extensively. and that the purpose of that task force was really how the city could regulate commercial use adult activity going forward. that task force is now in its third year and put forth hundreds of recommendations on that front. with the passage of prop 64, we saw almost three-quarters of san francisco voters in november 2016 support the legalization and
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decriminalization of cannabis activity. and then, we saw in june of 2017 the governor's office and the legislature pass sb-94, which was trailer legislation that talked about how the state intended to also comprehensively regulate adult use and medical activity, creating kind of a very broad framework for how they proposed doing that. in response to all of this, the city and county of san francisco put forth the office of cannabis as part of last year's budget. it was approved. it has three staff members: myself, a deputy director and an associate director. both of those positions are filled at this point, which is very exciting. and it tasked us with proposing policies to regulate commercial cannabis activity, as well as coordinating the city's agencies implementation of that regulatory structure moving forward, and as we all know there are a number of
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departments in san francisco, just like you guys experience the permitting process associated with that, we see the same sort of permitting activity on our side. so the office of cannabis is also meant to serve, just like the entertainment commission, as the entry point and final permit for cannabis business activity. so, you know, in response to all of this, the office of cannabis, in consultation with then mayor lee and multiple supervisors put forward a draft regulatory structure and land use controls, and that was very much informed by the work of the task force, and that went through a pretty robust but very quick legislative approval process at the end of last year, and through multiple commissions. it sat for 30 days for comment, and then, it went to committees and the full board. and that was passed in early december, implemented starting january 5th of this year, so
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it's been quite a whirl wind of a trip, and there's still a lot left to do, as you guys can imagine. so at this point, we're in the process of preparing for the application for article 16 permits, and if you recall, mcd's are regulated currently under article 33 of the health code, so when i refer to article 16, i'm referring to the new regulatory structure that we will endeavor to push all cannabis activity into in 2018, including existing mcd's. and so we're in the process of developing that application. we are also in the process of further developing anecwhich tanecwhich -- an equity -- we are in the process of turning over the existing industry, specifically, the nonretail delivery side of the industry, much of which was unregulated prior to january 5th of this year. so there's a lot do ito it.
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i'm happy to answer questions. i want to speak specifically to the event side since i know this commission has a special interest in that area. the state does allow for events to occur; however, they require local jurisdictions to authorize that activity. and as part of the regulatory package last year, we didn't do that mainly because while we recognize that activity is occurring, we were trying to only bite off as much as we could chew, so it is something that is -- it is definitely on the agenda this year to address, to develop policies around, and to see if we can try to regulate that, because again, we know it exists, we know it's happening, so it would behoove us to regulate, and to create operators and pathways to do that, but we are in consultation with the fascforce, taking task
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force taking up that issue later this year, before we put pen to paper before legislation goes. so i'm happy to answer any questions you may have. i'm sure you have many, so with that, i will answer it to questions. >> president tan: commissioners? commissioner lee? >> i think we talked briefly about the issue of smoking sections at clubs, and i think i mentioned about this, do we allow them via a medical cannabis card to be smoking in the same section as it's a smoking section outside in a controlled area, i've heard that it's either not allowed, or it could be allowed but not in the same section as the smoking section, so i'm just -- until the policies all come out, there's a lot of talk and a lot of confusion, and since we're on the air now, i kind of
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want to hear your opinion or what is the true answer for people that have medical marijuana cards and they want to smoke it? we all know that you can't smoke in the premise. we do have smoking sections. do we allow them to smoke in the smoking sections? >> i'd like to clear up that questions. >> sure. i'm happy to put that on the record. no. they are not allowed to consume in those locations. law requires consumption occur on licensed premises and for consumption, and in private residences, not in public, including places that are visible potentially to anyone under the age of 21, so when you think about lounges on dispensaries, they were required to be in an enclosed space, outside of the view of somebody who's under the age of 21, and not visible to the public, quite frankly. so that would violate many of those requirements,
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potentially, so therefore, that is disallowed. >> so if they walk up to us, let's say they're already smoking it, and they're ready to get into the club, but they're outside of our boundaries, do we have the right to say, you have to put that out? >> yes. yeah. the consumption is not allowed in public in general, so that includes on the street. and of course, that's -- you know, that's a broader enforcement issue that we know where the city generally stands on that. we have a policy. but with that said, legally, from -- in the state's perspective, as well, that is not allowable on the sidewalk. >> okay. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> is there a plan to have -- and there may already be, so correct me if i am wrong, but is there a plan to have consumption licenses in nonabc-licensed areas that are not associated with dispensaries, or consumption
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lounges? are there add-on consumption permits that people can apply for, if it's a yoga studio. >> right now, it's limited to certain locations, including retail that would have lounges on their premises, and not just the eight lounges that the city has at dispensaries, but it does expand those locations to other licensed and mer mied retamied -- permitted retail locations. but as of right now, lounges outside of businesses are not included in the retail structure, a stand-alone. >> other questions? >> there is more of a comment than a question, but just thank you for getting everything up and running, i have some idea of just how complicated this issue is, and, you know, keep
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in touch with us on the entertainment commission in terms of how we can continue to move forward on this. i know obviously, the cannabis consumption has been a part of entertainment and night life for a long time, and so figuring out what changes under this new eraof legalization and how that doesn't change, and sort of figuring out how to incorporate that in to spaces, making sure people enjoy themselves, and that working together. i appreciate you coming talking to us, and it's been goiod to have the entertainment commission represented on the legal task force, and i think it's been good to have people hear sort of the model of the entertainment commission and sort of what lessons we can learn from this. so thank you and i appreciate
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how much you've had to learn and wrap your arms around in the short time you've been in that office, so thank you for doing all of that, and let us know how we can keep working with you on this whole intersection of the night life and cannabis. >> thank you for that. and just in general, as far as what -- what would be helpful for us at this point in time is really knowing what information the industry's requesting and how we can be supportive, as well, for the entertainment industry right now in general, and right now, a lot of that is to your point, commissioner lee, about education, around what existing requirements are out there, both locally and on the stateside, and any sort of penalties associated with that, especially for those people who have abc licenses. >> and i think, you know, there is certainly very, very strong interest in figuring out how we -- how we can change the state regulatory environment and legal environment so that people can have the opportunity
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to consume cannabis and alcohol on the same premises. you know, we're not there yet, but hopefully, we will get there. and certainly, i mean i'm not going out on much of a limb at all to say that i think there are a lot of people in the night life industry to figure out how to figure out how to allow that in a legal format. >> and i can just dove tail that. i think the state rules -- and it's not the local. local's been very positive, but i think a lot of the state rules are setup for our licens licensed permit holders, and i don't want to see -- consumption is so difficult to regulate inside a club, given the different ways that you can consume now, including breath mints and tongue strips and everything, so you know, i'm afraid we're going to see a world where on-site consumption is going to be -- it's no