have to agree and approve certain thing and you will go to bcdc. i think the piece on resilience which is very much a part of our strategic plan but that is brilliant to have it inn corps rated as part of another additional part of this whole effort. i think there are obviously going to be tactics that we willer hear about as we go forward and i would agree with admissioner in katz that we need updates, for instance on the open space. even though we just had a big discussion on how we are. spending our dollar today. the question is do we have enough open space? i wasn't sure. so with the recreation, what can we actually do in i think these are thing we would all love to hear more about. what are the specifics? we did do an rfi that talked about the peers that we don't use today. we scratched our head and came up with piers 32 and pier 38. we didn't quite get what to do.

we need information from the public in terms what have is viable. so i think that's it. i think the idea of a having a big competition. i think that ties in, in a little formal way, come he will us what you could use the big piers for. about but the competition is a good idea. i think we have to be constantly challenged. we have a process and a capital plan. we go through all of these things we have aagain da items that we approve projects but we do need to get us in the framework and i definition of what we are doing on the strategic plan and the water front land use plan gives us a bigger framework to be bold. i think our own said earlier. i remember when first came on as a commission, trying to connection on the waterfront. and i think it's important that we are not just trying to

connect on the waterfront. but we really want to be for the whole city. and this plan i think now does speak to that and as well as what we are trying to do in the strategic plan. we are an asset for the whole city. for the west coast and are not country and for the world and we need to shine. so i think this is -- it is ambitious and now our problem is how are we going to figure out how to get there. but that's a good problem to have. so i commend all of you for giving us and passing that challenge on to us and to the staff of how to figure that out. but we will continue to work on it. but i'm very inspired and excited to see this work today. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner adams. commissioner you have a long time. commissioner adams please. >> commissioner adam: i'm not going to beat a dead horse. we could talk under water and i'm not going to do that. i just want to say thank you. i know we have other items. and i want to thank the community and the staff and other things. we have other things to do.

rudy i hear what you are saying about taking things under consideration. >> president brandon: thank you, commissioner. >> that was more mundane. i didn't want to interrupt. when you mentioned some of the next steps and the walking tours, if it would be at all possible to get some sort of video recording and posting it on to youtube and get bloggers and others on the opportunity. but i think if we will have committee members on this tour speaking i think that would be a great opportunity to share this information even more broadly and that would be a great opportunity. commissio commission ers any other comments? i truly would like to thank all of the committee members, rudy and janice, for leading this wonderful, wonderful effort.

because it sound like everybody just got along. it sounds like -- the ideas just kept flowing and the committee just really got along really well. i want to thank linda and pia and alice for cheering the committees. i want to thank everybody for their recommendations. thank you for coming one the great recommendations. i've read through them. they are great recommendations but i also think that commissioner katz's idea about the committee's coming and talking about each of their recommendations in a little more detail so we really get a feel and understanding of where any are going with that, would b would be great and i really love the idea of a big contest. it might be the same as our rfi

that is going out and big ideas to come from what we can do with our various spaces but i just -- i want to thank dianne. dianne was here through the first water front land use plan which was a huge effort. and she is still here. [ laughter ] [ applause ] i want to thank carol and david and brad and especially thank carey and anne for coming back. you guys are a great team and thank you so much for working account community and i am just so impressed with everything that has happened with this. so i'm really looked forward to the next steps and what we see next. thank you dianne. >> thank you. >> president brandon: next item. >> item 13a of the neck

declaration and the mitigation monitoring and reporting program for the ferry project located at piers 31 and 33 and embarkaddarra base 3. >> request approval to three documents one a general agreement between the port and the national park service. >> president brandon: let's take a quick break. and then we can clear the room. >> commissioner adam: 5 minutes? >> president brandon: almost. 5 minutes, we will be right back. 5 minutes. >> clerk: we are going to take a 5-minute break. everyone >> the national park service for the term for use of the site primarily for alwha alcatraz island to be used for

improvement for ferry services including the site for alcatraz island and with the golden gate national parks for site improvements and to operate visitor amenities including a visitor contact station and cafe for a 30-year term with two, 10-year options for the general agreement. >> good evening, commissioners, rebecca with the waterfront development. i'm pleased to be here with you for the second time. we were with you on january 9th for the informational. today i'm supported by our every present senior michael martin. j edward and hurley. and we really pleased to have a big contingent from the park service here to answer questions that specifically superintendent will join the podium for part of the presentation. jessica carter and altman are also here along with other staff members to make sure we get all

of the questions answered. the outline includes a little review from the january 9th item. items 1, 2 and 3 all go through relatively quickly because you all remember it so well not because we are all missed dinner. and we will be focusing on new information. we want to get back to you on the questions that were raised tejan 9th meeting and the questions we've been getting, parks service has been getting and i know others have been getting with respect to the perspectives that were issued in the interim since we saw you last. quick orientation. the alcatraz project is located in the alcatraz location site between piers 31 and 13 near bay street and intersection. the current site is envisioned to be approved. as i was listening to diana i was thinking this has a lot of elements that the land use subcommittee can come up. with we are improving the site

under the project to include more pedestrian access or removing some parking on the site and moving it into the shed so it's all pedestrian access site and getting more access to the water for public and consolidating and rationizing the embarkation site where passengers get on to the ferry to access alcatraz and also we are facilitating through the project site improvements through that pier 31 bulk head where a new cafe will be activated and also in pier 33 bulk head, also one of our historic facilities and also adding new waterfront capacity to the ferry-side of the site. a little bit of background on where we started. we started with environmental review -- actually initiated by national park service. the national park service sawing an opportunity to get a long-term site for the

embarkation site to alcatraz. it was vying heavily. park service did their due dill against and evenly settled on the site where we currently have the embarkation. the requirements was issued in 2015. the port term sheet was endorsed by the commission as well as the board of supervisors in 2016 and specifically with the term sheet which is why i'm going go through them a little bit quickly. the project that was stated was endorsed under the term sheet. between the term sheet enforcement through 2017 we have been negotiating the agreements with national park service and continuing and completing the environmental review of the quest. a quick overview of the roles and relationships. there are four entities that

have to, would together to make this site operate even better going into the future for 30, 40, 50 years. the ports role graphically. either the port role is to oversee the leases with a concessioner that will be selected by national park service of over time there will be more than one commissioner. and we also will sign the agreement once approved as national park service. we call that our general agreement and that is our operational agreement where we both work together to facilitate and fulfill the goals of the site operately revenue generated public access, enter pressing. all of the goals embodied in the leadership. and park services role is to bourque on the interpretation with the parks conserveck conservancy through their agreement and every 10 to 15

years under current practices and current regulations. the transaction duty of thes that are before you for the approval are the general agreement. like i mentioned it's a 30-year agreement between the port and the parks service. the other key document is the lease. we call it a form lease. it's a form lease because we don't know who the concessioner will be but it would be a form lease that the ferry would be required to sign and the term of the release would be with the park services would know be 33 years and the park conservanycrby and they're role is to provide visitor contact services as well as operate the cafe. we've canucke conducted all the environmental review necessary. the eia was completed in 2017.

the banks declaration which is what was determined to be required under seaquest has been completed and an appeal was filed and heard last week and the planning commission upheld the mmd that we have a time mmd which was signed last week as well. going forward we will require permits from all of the regulars that have jurisdiction to oversee the sight. the engineers and the regional quality control board and asiring which role the party has with look at which they have and limit the port and ferry, which will be working under the permit and then would work together to complete the permitting processes. this is a bit of new information i wanted to put in front of you

to provide more information on perspectives but has been issued sip we first started it provides some of the key metrics of the ferry operators and that's, what is the scale of the service. the scale of the service as estimated in the projections by park service is anticipated to be about 1.7 to 1.8 million passengers to and from alcanad alcatraz. 30 or 40,000 passengers through that service and also a new service described in the perspective and analyzed through the environmental review process. that is called a park crew. it's anticipated to serve about 80,000 and up to 90,000 per year. so that's good. the park service, being an

interpretive cruise where the attendees could go on to a boat which touches national park service waters and they would receive cultural and historical information about park service sites such as fort baker and fort mason. headlands and other areas. and for a context -- on the side of this cruise we looked back at a couple of staff report. one of the current tenant at the port has 190,000 pages that they served in 2015 and that's one of our operators we have other data and other operators to give us a context of how large the 80,000 park crews and services are appealed to be. i also wanted to note the annual projected gross revenue from in contract is between 44 and 52 million per year and the crac

contract is for 15 years. >> this is the port metrics and what was projected at the term sheet level. it provides the rent through the services and also notes -- you can see the total from the whole side appealed and billed out around 2020 to be $3.3 million. this is slightly above what we currently receive from the site and also we would be provided rent credit totaling 3 million-dollar for the investment in the site that we view as big building i will provements. speaking of investment in the site, how much revenue will be directed to port facilities through this contract and project. the ferry commission is expected to spend about $30 million. we will spend up to 5 million. and the conservancy will spend a

5 million credit for a total of $32.3 million invested in the site. i would like to invite superintendent josh to respond to some of the questions we heard in january and to remain with me for other questiongle until the presentation is complete. superintendent. thank you. >> thank you, rebecca and thank you commissioners for your patience. i know it's been a long evening. i appreciate your interest in this project and allowing doubts speak and i also want to thank the staff who have worked on this project for many years along with our partners and port staff. i've been general superintendent at golden gate for exactly three month today. i came from the regional office. ways regional direction for a -- i was regional direction for a number of years. the park service has been collaborating to identify the

location and develop the vision and solidify the business terms that would enable a long-term alcatraz state with benefits for stakeholders and i'm happy to be here today with the final business agreements for you. the nature and structure of our partnership was unprecedented in many ways and park services are genuinely excited about what the future hold which is a new high quality welcoming gateway to alcatraz island centered on piers 31 and 33 on the national historic district. the site will provide a seamless experience for visitors and create a plaza for millions of visitors each year. so an update on some perspectives. we have been busy since the session at the port commission on january 9th. as you heard last thursday the planning commission approved the

document for the project. their action upheld two very thorough independent analysis from both the national parks service. we completed an environmental impact statement and san francisco planning staff litigated neglect declaration. editionly the ferry contract also known as the prospectus was released on january 31st we have a site visit and the slicetration is due to close on may 31st with the goal of selection by fall. the concession contract requires the future concessioner to provide a number of services consistent with those envisioned in the general agreement and that's between the port and national park service as well as being detailed in the ferry concessioner lease, including alcatraz passengers ferry

service. that's the heart of the business opportunity, serving over 1.6 billion visitors each year and passenger ferry charter transportation to and from alcatraz for permitted special events and the new park crews. the park crews will provide a unique chan for visitors to learn about the park services natural and cultural resources around the bay area and include a minimum 45-minute on-board narrative program in multiple languages as described for the draft concession crack. the service will be educational and highly interpretive for visitors who are focused on the national park service experience. as you heard, it will serve a maximum of 90,000 visitors per year consistent with the litigated negative declaration and we see it as an opportunity for people who maybe can't get

out to alcatraz directly but want to learn about the bay area's national park sites. so food and beverage on-board vessels is a requirement. they will be authorized to certain visitor services subject to national park service oversight should they elect to do so. that includes photography, charter transportation to other locations subject to and pass appropriate infrastructure at charter destinations. future passenger ferry service to port baker are contemplated and those those services would be provided in accordance with the final environmental impact statement as well as the document and they cannot commence until parks service works through details regarding the connection points in the

baker and richmond. we would first need to make a significant development in the port baker pier infrastructure as well as better understand the infrastructure and partnership opportunities in richmond. we are committed to working with perspective state stakeholders prior to moving ahead to enabled success. so the next federal contract -- do i have the clicker? sorry. thank you. >> i'm going to talk a little about the national park commitment we know about the minimum wages applicable to the ferry service concession contract and i want to assure the community that the national park service is committed to a fair and legal competitive process and commission contract which includes fulfilling our

obligations with respect to the service contract act, the sca and appropriate measures for concession employers who provide these important services. so i would like to go into a bit of detail about the roles and processes by which minimum wages are established. under the sca, only the department, dol has the requirement for determinations. the national park service does not have such authority but rather realized on aol to rates. and for the 2016 alcatraz ferry contract reached a determination using dol to establish the procedure. and the mps has a site for both the 2018 wage determinations for the current crac current contract and the dol.

we want to acknowledge this has been a learning curve for the park service because we have a very limited number of concession contracts around the country. one such learning opportunity was with respect to the wage determination for the non--- oh, gosh. for the non-stand positions, particularly maritimes. so related to the draft conception contract in the perspective. we misunderstood our new crac contract but parks looked at the dol. it was submitted last tuesday by the 98 process and we just received the results back, and the results do appear to be

higher. we will release the pe per specprospectus. we will push it back. and with that 3-month period we believe we will have sufficient time for all interested party to prepai prepair a proposal. >> the parks service has provided contract location about the location and nature about the services. namely that it is a passenger ferry operation in san francisco. as well as the list of applicable occupations. in 2016, dol provided a wage determination to mps for the local san francisco region for a standard occupations.

it also provided a supplemental wage determination for foreign nonstandard occupations of captain, engineer and general vessel assistance. that references the harbour operations and nation-wide applicable on the east, gulf, west coast and hawaii. park service as the contracting agency did not have the authority or expertise to evaluate the speck wage rates. however interesting parties by the age including representatives of employees may request that dol wage determination if they have evidence to support such a request. we understand this is something that the stakeholders may be interested in undertakintake ultimately we understand that the services start with

compensations and safe and happy concession employees. that is our shared goal. so the next slide... thank you. so for the project schedule, may 8th is the deadline for the new concession contract to become effective. a delay in the port commission approval of the general agreement and leases will trigger delays in consequent required approvals and could possibly result in the need for national park service to pursue a temporary contract. by law they can extend contracts for a maximum of three years. the current alcatraz contract expired on may 9th, 2016. parks services have extended to 2019 in order to accommodate the completion of embarkation site

planning. the approval of associated business agreements and the solicitation and selection process for the next concession contract. the concession contract process is compressed due to the planning development phases for this important crack and we also are providing 30 days between the mayor's approval and the close of our slittatio period for the deadline for the new contract. if that were to happen the national parks service would enter into a temporary contract to avoid a gap of service to alcatraz. likely by avoiding operations to continue to provide services under the temporary contract. that's what we have seen occur

in other locations. specific terms and conditions would need to be negotiated. we tend to have embarkations for services and improvements as we have presented them to you. we met the key regulatory construction window in the fall of 2019 for watersite infrastructure to support new services and lend greater flexibility in terms of laydown space for construction. there would be delays to be made under the next concession contract. the services and associated revenue streams to the port would not be introduced until the new concession contract is effective. all of this results in lost opportunities for participates. and more importantly for the visitors alcatraz and the embarkation site. the next slide discusses the specific schedule milestones in greater detail and i look

forward toy a chiefing theming to as we begin to implement this exciting project in the year ahead. >> president brandon: thank you. ahead. >> thank you, superintendent josh. we will be seeking approval through the board of supervisors. if we can get the other approvals then nts can put into perspective we have final approvals so the prospectus can be assured that's the final thing we are working under and what superintendent josh mentioned we will go into next year. construction would then be phased in over the various window with the first window coming up later this year they would be able to take possess of

the now vacant bulk head and begins construct there. the next in-water construction window would occur in fall 2019. that would be for the next phase of construction with the concessioner phasing in the phases of work over a 3.5 or 4-year period. the second part of their work in the bulk head is anticipated to occur in 2020 with full site improvements need to be complete by 2024. >> you did a wonderful job of reading the rest solution but i want to say thank you for allowing us to come back and answer some of the questions and thank you to everyone in the audience for staying this late. we look forward to your questions and comments as well. >> president brandon: thank you. may i have a motion to approve this item. i need to recuse myself.

is there a motion? >> commissioner adam: i do. >> president brandon: i'm going to put this for discussion purposes and we have public comments. daniel. and then harvey stratford. and then john pattaro. >> hello. thanks for opportunity to speak. my name is daniel. i'm -- from this area and i've been involved in the union. and i just want to speak to concerns about maintaining a certain standard of compensation for deck hand that worhands

that work on the bay. and i've been very fortunate to work as a deckhand since about april of last year. and it's been a huge thing for me to have a sense of dignity and to be compensated pretty fairly after -- you know most of my life not really being able to save any money, have -- you know plan for retirement. and i think that -- you know, that is very, very important. and i think -- for ten years i was -- i went to a lot of city council meetings. people talking about building -- you know nice plans and physical spaces and talking about success in a certain way. and sitting through the meeting

i was thinking about what does success mean? what does resilience mean? and i hope it means more than just the facilities. i think that also it's about the people that work here on the bay. and i think you have a lot of power here working on this crack to maintain a good standard for deck hand. i work on the bay with deckhands that will be around when there's an earthquake. and they will be responding to that emergency. [ please stand by ]

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of the existing port tenants and long time maritime employers on the waterfront. also, i think we'd like to see that the the decision or going forward with the contract, awarding the contract be tabled until we have in our hands and can see the actual numbers of the wage determination -- local wage determination, 'cause i think -- i don't think anybody wants to go through what happened last time where we had to sue to get the current contractor to pay the fair minimum of the prevailing wage. thank you. >> thank you. brian helman. [ inaudible ] >> he had to leave? robe robert estrada. >> good evening. i've been a deckhand for

30-plus years. i started in march of 1985. i've recently become the regional director of the inland boat man's union, which is the maritime division of the isle epu. we represent upwards of 300 members in this region, mariners, and we have great concerns on two fronts, as you know. our first concern centers around the idea that this late in the process, this late in the game, we still don't have an accessible department of labor wage discrimination that passes the sniff test. why not 2006 be the learning experience, when our two unions had to spend half a million dollars fighting this experience issue. we would hope that would have been a learning experience for

the national parks. that was a long, drawn-out process, and ultimately, what it did, it cemented a contract with concession here based on two big lies. the promise of a big, fran see, interpretive museum, never materialized. a station looking boat salor that everybody said wasn't going to happen, and it never did. now, once we fought that and we won it, nominally, what was the remedy? well, we're going to get to keep the contract, bump the wages up at the back end, and then they were given nearly the doubling of the ticket price to help pad that. what i don't want to see again, because it was a learning experience for us, what i really don't want to see is a contract handed on a wink and a nod, a promise that we'll get

to it and then have to deal with it at the back end. here's the opportunity to have it done right, since 2006 when this contract was given. they were required by that same service contract act to revisit the prevailing wage every two years, and as we understand it, that didn't happen until two years ago. and you would expect that when it was finally revisited after all those years, that it would be a little bit of a bump up from what the wages is. the wages went down to $12 an hour for a deck hand, $19 an hour for a captain. i've got it teto tell you that less than half of the reality. so i would also like to talk and say thank you, commissioners, for helping to at least get the park service to say that they will submit this department of labor wage determination. we very much appreciate that. thank you for those efforts. that, and the idea the bay

cruise is sucking off the work of our very good employers, our legacy employers, to help pay for this $30 million infrastructure, that museum, that visitor's center should have already been built. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> captain ezra l. hill hunt, jr. >> good evening, president brandon, vice president adams. commissioners, executive staff, and brothers and sisters from both the mmp and the ibu, i'm a 30-year-old retired captain from the blue and gold fleet. i'm a san francisco native, born and raised. hunters point, bayview,

st. marry's college. what i've heard today about not understanding things, not knowing what i'm doing. i'm sorry, i'm not a college graduate, but you can understand, i don't care what kind of way you cut a dog, it's not going to be anything depending on what you breed it with. i also want to say i'm worried when we see paragraphs in some of these what looks to be innocuous statements inside of a federal document. i represent 251 members alone right up the street where i worked for 30 years at blue and gold fleet. on average, and these are rough numbers. don't hold me to it. let's say we do 2,000 bay cruises, if you're going to do 450 bay cruises where we employ 250 members, it looks to me like a 20 or higher, 20%

reduction in my workforce and my labor group, so this at's offensive to me. i don't want how else you say it to me, other than the jobs that are being done are in jeopardy. when i first started working, i was a college student. i made a conscious choice to stay in san francisco. when i graduate in high school, i was just going on a basketball scholarship. i had a bunch of big schools that i could have left the state to go play. one of the reasons i chose st. marry's was its proximity to san francisco. the 30 years i spent at blue and gold, and the additional years i spent with other companies, to me, seems worthless in this new market. what do i tell my kids who are graduating from college? can you spend 30 years in a career in the maritime industry

in san francisco? what do i tell my son who's about to graduate from high school and attend college? can you spend 30 years in a maritime institute in san francisco in wh francisco? what did you guys think, is my question, when you read some of this stuff. the bay cruises, what it's doing, supports families. men, women, children, grandchildren. to lose those jobs, i'm telling 20% of my workforce, you have to find another job. it's unacceptable. thank you. >> thank you. keith manning. >> good evening. my name's keith manning. i'm a resident of san francisco, professional mariner. i've been a mariner for 40

years. cal maritime grad, 1976, and i worked on the waterfront here out of san francisco for 30 years. to see substandard concessionaires come into the neighborhood and pay their employees a substandard wage is unconscionable on a national maritime -- i'm sorry, the park service contract. the union members earn a wage that can send a kid to college. commissioner adams mentioned earlier the problem with even in the -- in the park -- i mean, in the port -- in the

ports for kids having a -- a college degree to get promoted. so thoese wages are really important to the community. i couldn't afford to live in this town even at the wages i make now if i didn't have rent controlled apartment. so i don't know how these people at this concessionaire can even live in town, in the neighborhood. they're super commuters now, so they're driving from fairfield and sacramento just to go to work here in town. and so thank you for letting me speak, and i hope you listen to our pleas. thank you.

>> thank you. >> the next card, i cannot read. it starts with a k, and other than that, i have no idea. okay. if i don't call your name later, you can speak. gerald norton, and then, rusty westgate. >> rusty left. >> yhe left? okay. [ inaudible ] >> i'm sure it's in there. yes, it's coming. >> good evening. i'm jerry norton. a little nervous. i worked at -- in the ibu for about nine years. i'm kind of new at this, and everything i've heard about hornblower seems like they have lied and cheated and not lived up to their contract, so i just want to say i think that they

should not be able to continue with the alcatraz cruises. thank you. >> thank you. james dexter lee. jennifer mccarthy. >> hi. thank you for staying late. my name's jennifer mccarthy. i'm a deck hand with the inland boat man's union, and i've been a deck hand for about 20 years. and with that job, i've been able to save enough money to afford to buy a house in oakland. that was about 15 years ago, but i'm terrified that the concessionaire that comes in, you know, will provide another

bay cruise service and siphon off passengers from red and white, blue and gold, companies who've been doing business in san francisco for years, and what will happen to our union members? i mean, is everybody going to have to leave town? and another point, too, is the wage determination. i would hope you don't make any decision until we get a wage determination to see if the workers will be adequately paid. also, too, in my other union, local 510, we've had trouble with the park service for setting up shows at park mason, shows that used to be ours. the park services let contractors come in from denver and use nonunion labor. i'm not sure what their terms are, but i'm sure it's substandard. it's terrible to lose some of these jobs, and none of us bay area residents will be able to

stay anymore. thank you. >> thank you. than stands. >> anthony stands. this is now my 15th year in the union. i started off pretty young, and i just want to see if i can get my members to standup so you can see the count of us that are representing here today. in addition, the owners of red and white standup. local 10, as well. you guys heard a lot of people talk about wages today. they're speaking of wages because when the [ inaudible ] came in and took over the alcatraz bid, if you guys think of a bid of $19 an hour, and a deck hand receiving $12 an hour when our deck hand is receiving $30 an hour. like, the wages are a big difference, and also, the park

crews bay cruise. [ inaudible ] -- and keeping san francisco like a union shop rather than doing business with hornblower, or keep them a union shop. most of the hornblower people are coming to these meetings, as some point. their wages with different -- [ inaudible ] you know, so you kind of think about that. like, you're paying peanuts. i just -- you know, that -- that will do it for me. thank you. >> thank you. keith ocean? you le he left -- oh, keith, you still here? okay. >> thank you. my name's keith ocean. i'm a deck hand with the inland boat man's union, and also a

fourth generation san franciscan. both grandparents in the fire. also have worked before working as a deck hand 12 years as a tour guide, all up and down the wharf, and i know that the travel concession is one of the driving engines of tourism in san francisco. and just as a structural thing, having the concessionaire running out of the alcatraz docks, doing bay cruises, taking away from, as my brothers and sisters have said, legacy businesses, like red and white that have would be injurious not just to the deck hands, but the businesses up and down the woods area, because people who come out of alcatraz or cannot get alcatraz tickets, which is always a

concern, will they go down the wharf and go to bus tours, to bay cruises, to blue and gold, to red and white, or you can take one of the commuter ferries to vallejo or oakland. and on their way, they go to pier 39 and the other concessionaires and the other businesses around pier 39 and the north beach area, and continue to fund businesses -- small businesses, large businesses, jobs. and it's a -- so having that one point where the park service concessionaire will be essentially doing jobs of other local legacy businesses would actually lead to a, frankly, less income for the other businesses in the tourist industry in the fisherman's

wharf area. now, it would -- in her initial presentation, director forbes mentioned restaring maritime jobs in the area as one of the goals of the commission in this project, and the increases in water transport. having these jobs, particularly as a deck hand at prevailing wages would provide a labor base for that -- for that increased ferry service, which is also important for possible emergencies and would provide a broad array of public use for the entire wharf area. thank you. >> thank you. tom escher.

>> good evening. my name is tom escher, and i'm the president of the red and white fleet. we're one of san francisco's few registered legacy businesses, and our roots go back to 1892, and i think we are hea tenant in good standin at the port, although sometimes i question that. we support both the national park and the port of san francisco's efforts for creating a long-term lease for the alcatraz and embarkation locate. this is good tfor the national park. it's good for the port, it's good for the visitors of the city, and it's good for the entire country. our review of the available documents, we have not been able to find any written requirement that the port and

the national park service have agreed all alcatraz concessionaires, all alcatraz concessionaires, all alcatraz concessionaires are required to pay local prevailing wage. we are told that typically, national park concessions complete -- national park typically completes this sort of documentation and follows the service contract act before these sorts of contracts are signed. at red and white fleet, we deal exclusively with the inland boat man's union. we pay local prevailing wage, and are proud to hire, we think, the best mariners on the bay. in summary, we request that the commission approves item 13-a after or as long as there's a

written agreement specifying local wage determination has been completed by both the national park and the port, as this is the way to protect all the women and men working at the alcatraz concession. now, the same thing, the national park was very nice to share additional data that surprised me. we are one on the bidder's list, and we're going to attempt to be awarded the concession. these items that they brought up are new to us. we have not been informed of that, so it's very nice for us to hear that. i don't know if the other concessioners have been informed of this. if you've informed us first, before them, that's not fair to

them. all that the red and white fleet wants is to have a level playing field. if we can't win on the level playing field, that's fine. i'll take the losses, but we need a level playing field. we don't like lies, we don't like people that do one thing and do something else. that's not the way we operate, so in light of the updates given today, i would ask the national park to give the -- any concessionaire -- all concessionaires more time to analyze what you want. >> thank you, tom. >> okay. >> thank you. eric platt. >> good evening. thank you for your time, guys. appreciate all the work you do, and i just wanted to defer to all of the people that i just heard speaking. i'm a deck hand, and a san francisco resident.

i'm an ibu members, and i can qualify for the below market rent, you know, housing in san francisco, mayor's office stuff, even with a union job, and so i think what everybody else here has said is particularly relevant, and it was heartening for me to see today in that other presentation that the port was committed to livablity in san francisco, because i love it here, and i'd hate to see that undercut in any way. thank you. >> thank you. christopher christiansen. >> good evening, board and staff. i'm christopher christiansen, i'm with the ibu local ten. we are part of the ilw family, and before i started here, i was part of the master mads and pilots' union, and i'm just

going to echo what robert, and ezra has said, that we don't think this is fair that you approve this now. this needs to be held over because nps has not informed you of the settlemental wage determination correctly. we also believe that their park cruise is a way for them to undercut some of the legacy businesses here in san francisco like the red and white fleet and the blue and gold, who right now are undertaking sizeable improvements to their facilities and their docks, and we want nps to pay a fair prevailing wage for union workers here in san francisco. and with what they have provided, it doesn't look like they are. and i sit on the san francisco labor council as a delegate,

and i can tell you right now that when we have our next meeting next week, that this is going to be a huge topic of discussion about what the nps is doing. and with sitting on the labor council comes union solidarity. it's not union solidarity here in the city with the maritimes only and the union trades, and the construction workers or the plumbers, it's union solidarity together, and we feel if that gets rubber stamped and approved tonight, that this will go to the labor council and be a huge contention. so we hope that you'll hold this over until we have further information with, again, the supplemental wage determination, and with what they want to do with the park cruise. thank you. >> thank you. vincent