the motion. >> i am supporting the motion. i am not -- i didn't hear from the dr. i have a motion that they had a proposal. >> i support the motion if we just found out via the technology whatever, 10-15 inches, the offer to mitigate the shadow. if it is 2 feet, 1 foot. minimize the impact to the neighbour to the west. let's take you up on that. i think working with staff on whatever that is... . >> the shadow study and it comes to 45 minutes a day between 10 and 11 a.m. for five months of the year between march and september. and it is a very minimal. it is a minimal shadow.

one of the things about the house to the west is that it is a pre-existing condition. it is way down there. you can't do much about the shadows. so what i do know is that leading edge on the west side, the shadow side is here. this is december. you have 9, 10 and 11. by 11 there is no effect. and 9 there is a slow effect here. and 10 you see there is the most

effect. commissioner richards i can do that. i think we are talking about slivers. i think the thing that the 18 inches does is putting myself -- between the owner of the house and the west and their situation, i don't want to look at a wall. i set my wall back 18 inches, he will see the rest of it. everything is as it was. i think that is the goal here. >> approve with conditions. 18 inches. the commissioner. >> can i ask one more question. >> prepared to support the proposal. would you invite -- would you invite the architect to go to your house to just get a view from what that looks like so you

get a little bit of sensitivity. i agree with mr. butler, that it will come from the south. the homes on broadway are so high up there. i know for personal fact it is mosssy and wet on the rear sides of the homes because it is shadowed by the broadway street homes. there is little light. some from the west. i ask that you -- and try to find an appropriate time. if you find that you can make an adjustment. >> on the motion. >> the motion passes. 6-1.

>> the department staff. there are additional letters that come in. i have letters of support and one letter of opposition. i will pass these to the commission secretary. >> the project, the renovations and the addition of the partial fourth story to be constructed above the three-storey building. the subject properties on the south side of the street.

it occupies, measuring 100 feet deep. the building has a garage and a larger region occupying both floors. >> the three storey residential building owned by the dr. to the east of the subject properties, the three storey. directly across green and north the subject properties is a three storey, and directly behind is the subject properties, the three storey, two unit building. the request for discretionary review is submitted by the owner of 1899 located adjacent of the subject property. the concerns raised in the application are as follows. that the project addition to the west -- to the side would block two property lines on the second floor apartment of the building.

following the deal request, the advisory team considered the issue in the dr request and concluded that the plan code of the residential design guidelines -- the problem does encourage the project sponsor to make gestures to come the request to maintain the set back. the planning department recommends the commission to improve the project as proposed but encourages gestures. that concludes my presentation. >> thank you. >> very good evening to you commissioners. this is my client.

he owns the residence of green street adjacent to the subject property. my client supports the project expansion with a small but critical exception. the current set become should be maintained for part of the lot line so that the new expansion is not completely block the property line windows that provide the only light and air to the kitchen and dining room of the first floor unit of the building. i will explain more fully in a moment. she will tell you why it is important to her. >> my store is located a couple of blocks away from my building. i purchased this building in 2015. and i am trying to -- in a few

years hopefully [indiscernible] as you know, my neighbours -- the dining area was completely blocked. the windows are the only source of light and air in that area. thank you for considering my request. >> commissioners we recognize that the property line windows are not protected. applying the code formally here would conflict with a third principle of the design guidelines and the projects should maintain adequate setbacks and also would inappropriately balance the project sponsor rights to develop the property with the impact on the adjacent neighbours. the property line windows on the residence. fortunately there is a simple

solution. keep the current three and a half foot set back to 13 feet 10 inches on only the first and second floor. that is 48.4 square feet for a total of 96.8 square feet. it is two and a half percent of the proposed square foot agenda of the development. it is modest. it maintains -- what is the project sponsor -- one a built in -- in the dining room. two, a portion of the butler pantry and a kitchen that would have a large walk in pantry. and three, a three and a half foot -- and a third bedroom. it would still be 10 feet wide

and maintained as current wall. and the planning staff recommend a neighbourly gesture to accommodate the concerns. unfortunately -- to be clear -- between 2015, the first addition and 2017. the project sponsor may have accommodated others, for almost two and a half years, there is -- on the request. this did not make a laundry list of other changes that she could negotiate away and said she has always focussed on the one change. i am clear from the plans they had the discretionary square footage to make a neighbourly gesture if they want to do so.

in further attempts to resolve the issue, a second meeting was set up last friday. and for the first time, the project sponsor suggested they could accommodate half of the request by setting back the proposed expansion from one of the two windows at issue. if the commission allows them to expand the basement level. the basement level does not impact the client. we have no comment on that. we decline the accommodation to the request. it would not -- it would not protect the kitchen window. the project sponsor told us the planning staff they would share a copy of the drawings for the idea. they have not done so. we lack the details of what they may suggest this evening. in the meantime, our team would do the drawings and we can shorten the request to proposal you have.

that is what we ask you to adopt? opposed to the project? the project sponsor? >> good evening. i am jane. my husband. we are the owners of the property. we have been there ten years and we live with our daughters. two and a half and four years old. we are committed to staying in san francisco as a family. (please stand by)

>> i'm going to let david and our architect speak in more detail. >> thank you. good evening, commissioners. david silverman working with the gaydos on their project.

so why do they need to widen their house? their house is only 23 feet wide. the d.r. requester on the other end has a building, a four-unit building that's built lot line to lot line. and as mentioned by the gaydos, she just recently remodelled her building. she had every opportunity to provide light to that room she's talking about. it's a kitchen -- combined kitchen-dining area. she did not do so. the building code, as you know, prohibits lot line windows in the absence of any agreement with the owner to cover street

frontage. this is the laguna side, corner building, lots of windows. that's another view of the laguna site. >> president hillis: all right. that's your time. >> that's the rear. >> president hillis: okay. thank you. we'll open it up for public comment in support

just a testament to what great people they are. we took on a major construction project which taught us several new phrases, like seismic retrofitting, and everything that goes along with terrific construction. even where we moved in, once where we had bayviews, construction across the street removed a portion of that, but that's what you expect living in the city. we had several property line windows that we knew we might have to say good-bye to should our neighborhoods on the east side rhenvate. during our renovations we made a sense to prepare for that and replaced two with fire rated windows. even keeping a couple was a gamble, knowing in the near term someday we could lose them, but it's not a hidden

secret. when you buy a property in san francisco, you know that could potentially happen. so our property is identical to the gaydos property. the only way to maximize space is to stretch beyond the property line -- or stretch to the property line. so the only thing i'll say is that you know, first of all, thank you. thanks because fixing that house on the corner it was such an eye sore. while i can say i appreciate our freedom to express our concern, i don't agree with the complaint because we went through the same thing. you saw the corner windows, with a safe access route to the laguna side -- >> president hillis: your time. >> okay. >> president hillis: thank you. though. any additional public comment? >> good evening. my name is melody jones.

i've been a long time resident of green street. i used to own 1890 green across the street, and then, i've been a three year tenant of the gaydos and long time friends, so i would like to express my support for the project at 1899-91 green street. sorry. at a resident owners -- i'm trying to avoid some things that have already been said to we can safe sometime. as redent owners with young girls, i know they take great care in selecting the tenants and maintain relationships with them after they move outside, so i was to speak to the fact that they're working to improve the existing rental property by moving out and bumping out more space in the beautiful back yard that this rental will move onto. while i appreciate the improvements that the neighborhood has made to the adjacent property, she is an

abse absentee landlord. she hasn't necessarily consistently been that in terms of managing. during the construction i found saw dust in my pathway, there were boards with nails blocks the entry gate, and she was dismissive of the safety hazards that this presented. and in thus construction, she's not provided adequate space for trash and recycling fore her tenants because there are significantly more people living there when it was a single-family and just run renter. garbage will be overflowing. we now have tomato plants growing as a result of the plants that were in the street, basically on the sidewalk. as a result today there is just trash and recycling out on the back stairs. when we've asked her to address this, she's thought that it was the neighbors' responsibility to go ahead and call ecology to

go ahead and have it addressed, and only after much pressure did she actually handle it herself. there's actually a broken window at the front of the building that's part of the -- what i'll call the protected tenants, the existing tenants before the remodel that she has not fixed. i feel it's a little bit self-serving that part of it that's been rented for high rents is being addressed, but those that are rent protected are not actually being taken care of in the same way. so i think the request for discretionary review seems unjustified. the corner property has extensive windows and doors as you've already seen around laguna, green, and the south facing back yard, and the property line windows facing east are not protected as we've heard, and when the neighbor undertook her renovation after learning of the gaydos plan, she could have made arrangements for light and air at that time, and i think she's

putting undue influence on the gaydos to do something should she have done herself. >> president hillis: hi. >> my name is marion hazyes, ad i'm here to read some letters of people who wanted to be here, but they could not, in support. [ inaudible ] we've become family friends. we've shared lemonade stands, walked together and our daughter has baby-sat for their children many times. much has changed as you know in our area over the past few years, not all for the good. we watch out for each other and each other's properties so that this neighborhood continues to be a safe, clean and friendly place to live. the next letter comes from the neighbors directly across the street. i'm reaching out in support of

mike, jane delancy and nicky gaydo. jane and mike have raised their daughters here since preschool and have been consistently kind, thoughtful and community kred d ntric. we are neighbors of jane and mike we have come to know them as a wonderful family in our neighborhood. we understand that construction changes they are proposing to you when we fully support all improvemen improvements to their home in this time that so many families are moving from san francisco, ween courage you to approve this project and have this this family remain in our city. an excerpt from a letter from jill buckley at 1856 green street. the gaydo's are well known on our block and jane has devoted countless hours to volunteering. jane is head of the parents'

association and has served on the school's board. next, melissa buckley, the gaydo's go above and beyond in our community. they support other families by offering to take kids for meals and ad ventures on union street, and they keep us in the loop with important community news, sometimes crime, sometimes how to support a local business. living in a city packed so closely together with so many neighbored can be challenging. we've seen them be supportive in that context. we're thankful to have them in our community. next, i was the gaydo's first tenant. please approve the plans without further changes or delay. finally, from defini-vonne johnson -- the owner of the property next door then proceeded to do a remodel and

installed new lot line windows even when they were asked not to do so. finally, this family has wanted to rhenvate their house for many years, and i'm so happy that they're planning to stay in san francisco and in particular our neighborhood. >> president hillis: thank you very much. >> thank you. >> president hillis: all right. any additional public comment? seeing none, d.r. requester, you have a two minute rebuttal. >> commissioners, she also is invested in this neighborhood and bought it with a long-term plan of after renting to tenants now, making her life there as soon as she's able to make that shift in her life. secondly, it's certainly not true that she has not budged an inch on the request. the initial request was for a depth of 16'3".

as you've seen, that's been modified when we realed it's possible to do to so 13'10". third, i want to clarify about the remodel she did in 2015 and to give a little bit of context there. so the previous owners of this building had begun a remodel beginning in 2007. then the great recession hit. they had financial problems and could not continue the work that they'd begun to the interior renovation. at that time, well, several years passed, and then, my client brought the property in 2015 -- in 2015, and used essentially the same plans that the previous owners had permitted. she did not change any window positions. it's absolutely not true that she installed new lot line windows. the historical position of those windows was never changed either by the previous owners in their renovation or by her,

and she was successful in making this building beautiful again and to alleviate the eye sore that it was for a few years after the great recession as the neighbors have alluded. also, of course, she has windows on other walls in the building that give light and air to other -- to other rooms, but the interior living space and dining -- i'm sorry, and kitchen area where she would spend a lot of time once she -- once she lives in the building would have no light because these are the only two windows that give air and ventilation to that space. thank you. >> president hillis: thank you. project sponsor. [ inaudible ] >> i just want to rebutt something that they said earlier about not trying to help out or not trying to compromise. this is a diagram of the property line. this is what -- >> president hillis: just talk into that mic, if you would,

please. >> well, this is, like, what's allowed under the building code under the 40-x zoning that we all know about, the -- sorry. this -- the cutback. this is what we're doing. we're accommodating -- or sorry. yeah. we're accommodating, first taking off this portion, which is the historical set back. we're eliminating this portion, which is to allow for an entryway to the lower unit, which is a very important part of this project, and we're setting back the building on this area to allow for more light and air to get across the street 'cause basically you have matching light wells. so then, we end up giving up about 50% of the available space to the d.r. requester. and -- go ahead.

and then here this shows all the property line windows that are hatched in dark gray. there's nine of them. we're leaving seven out of nine. just -- and just finish, the d.r. requester has 20 windows in their unit. she would now have 18, so if you're shooting three point baskets, and you're steph curry, and your percentage is 90%. that's pretty good because steph curry is famous, and he's only completing 42%. so they have 90% of what they had, 90%. thank you. >> president hillis: thank you. all right. we'll close this portion of the hearing. commissioners, commissioner richards? >> vice president richards: just one question for the d.r. requester, the windows that were put in after the project sponsor -- sorry, the d.r.

requester bought the window, were they with benefit of permit? >> were they permitted. >> vice president richards: well, the permitted lapsed if it was issued in 200 #. >> she repermitted. >> i had to sign that they can be covered up at any given time if my neighbor were to rebuild. >> i don't know if that's on that. >> vice president richards: i know the department's process is that, hi . i had to go through that myself. we could do a search on my title. i also don't see any extraordinary exceptional circumstances here. and i'd move to not take d.r. and approve the project. >> president hillis: second. >> and here is the material. >> president hillis: commissioner moore. >> commissioner moore: actually, it's kind of late. the lower unit needs some modifications.

the existing building has a unit that is separate from the building. the proposed remodel shows the unit that has a stair connecting to the first floor, and that does not constitute the type of unit we can approve if this is being approved as a two-un two-unit building. mr. linda sasey, you saw the drawings. >> david lindsey, planning department staff, i did see the stairs, but they don't go into the unit itself, they go down into a mud room. >> provide access to the garage. >> provide access to the garage, and then, there's a separate entrance into the unit that's behind that mud room. and then, the main entry into the lower unit is from the side exterior passage way. >> commissioner moore: it is still -- it is still something that could easily be changed to make the unit an integral part

of the building upstairs and is not as quite as separate as we would like to see it. >> what do you suggest? >> commissioner moore: mr. lindsey knows what to do. >> i would need some guidance from you, commissioner. i -- these stairs to me are separate from the -- >> commissioner moore: it would mean that the unit itself cannot be accessed from the mud room but can only take the external access and the one from the garden. >> well, there's a door. you can either access a mud room. >> president hillis: or the exterior. >> commissioner moore: three entrances right now to the unit. one from the mud room, one from the exterior, and one from the -- from the rear yard, from the terrace now? >> vice president richards: you could eliminate the mud room entrance. >> you could eliminate the entrance into the mud room. >> president hillis: why are we doing that?

>> commissioner moore: in order to create the proper separation that units need to be counted as separate units because if you don't do that, you can always connect the building and make it one home without it being -- two independent units. >> but you could always do that by just putting a door in there, also. >> they've got a renter who's been renting the lower unit for three years. it's going to be two separate units, and one is a door from the garage up the stairs, and the other is a doorway going from the mud room. we can eliminate that door, if you want. that's no big deal. >> commissioner moore: yeah, that should be eliminated in order to follow the rules. >> you're okay with that offer? >> president hillis: i'm fine with that offer. i don't think it's illegal to have a shared mud room, but i get the point. >> commissioner moore: i'd like to ask mr. lindsey, the department still -- the department still asked about a

neighborly gesture. could you comment on that, please. >> well, the neighborly gesture, i guess, would be to -- to -- to allow that -- to allow the set back that they're requesting. it's not something that is -- we can require. the commission could require that as it's within their discretion to do that. >> commissioner moore: well, it's a little difficult that in the -- i mean, i always like to hear the full story. the full story is i do not have any plans of the adjoining units, which is obviously a building with multiple units in it, and i have not seen those in order to really understand what those windows do or don't do. they're basically being described by the d.r. applicant, but they're not fully explained except for a photo. in order to really judge how important they are, he would have to see a plan relative to where they are in terms of room sequence and how vital they are

to bring light to a kitchen-living room, and i do not have that. >> president hillis: commissioner richards. >> vice president richards: a question for the d.r. requester. how wide is the building, the d.r. requester's building? >> how high is the top -- >> vice president richards: how wide? >> how wide. >> vice president richards: from the corner to the project sponsor's building, the lot, the building. >> 25 lot says our architect. >> it's a 26-foot wide lot, actually, according to the plan here. >> vice president richards: okay. 26 foot wide, and there's how many rooms between the exterior window on the side of the building facing the street and the window that's going to be covered up that commissioner moore references. >> those are separate rooms. they're side-by-side rooms. >> vice president richards: and is there a wall between them or is there an opening? >> there's a wall.

>> vice president richards: i mean, i kind of -- of have a hard time. if 18 windows are going to be preserved, and only two are going to go away, you know -- >> president hillis: i mean, if you look at the side of this house, a house that has four sides to it with all windows, there's a lot of windows on the property line side. you know, it's continuing on the d.r. requester to bring that shand show why that's an extraordinary circumstance. they didn't do that. i actually think they've got more of a case for an extraordinary circumstance than you all do, frankly. >> commissioners, the photographs that shows the windows from the outside is on the overhead presently that was in the initial packet that you had, and from -- showing the -- they are, you know, the two windows that are in red on the lot line right here, and so this building is four units, so

even though there are other windows in the building, they don't give light to -- not all of those windows give light to this unit. some of them give light into other units. so for this unit, in this interior living space, it is this window that is in the dining room, and this window that is -- >> president hillis: okay. we saw that. commissioner moore? >> commissioner moore: what i'm saying is for us to judge real important, you need to see a plan how it released the rest of the unit. >> president hillis: that's what the. [ inaudible ] >> commissioner, i have the plan if you want to see it. >> president hillis: of the adjacent neighbor's home? >> yeah. they provided it to me. would you like to see it? >> president hillis: yeah, if they've got it. >> vice president richards: i'm at a loss why the d.r. requester didn't present it. bizarre. >> commissioner moore: excuse me. i have an additional question for mr. lindsey. >> so i'm going to modify. >> i worked on --

>> president hillis: we didn't call you up. thank you. if people have questions, we'll ask. >> thank you. >> president hillis: i believe we did have a question for you to show us the plan. >> okay. this is -- this is -- this is their unit here they're talking about -- sorry. >> president hillis: can you zoom into that and just move the diagram around so we can see that? >> help me out here -- yeah, sorry. >> vice president richards: are they four units, asame siz, one on top of each other. >> this is one unit, one huge unit with 20 windows. they're saying we're blocking this window and this window, which are in a kitchen, which if -- you know, if i was remodelling this house -- i'm an architect, it's like i would

provide a light well or do something, but we're talking about these two windows. i don't -- i don't know how to do this. >> commissioner moore: could you zoom out a little bit, please. >> okay. >> commissioner moore: more, more, more. >> it's one room here, these two windows, right? those are the two out of 20. so, you know, it's a big apartment. they chose to remodel it this way: three bedrooms, 20 windows. that's all i was going to say. okay? thank you. >> president hillis: thank you. >> if i may add one comment. >> president hillis: no, i think that was the question. commissioner richards, or commissioner moore, do you have any other comments. >> commissioner moore: no. i was going to ask, this is not part of the d.r. on the roof, there's a built in barbecue on the property line. i think it doesn't work. it's just another comment.

>> president hillis: commissioner richards. >> >> vice president richards: so i'm willing to take my motion to take d.r. and eliminate the entrances that the project sponsor had offered and that's it. >> president hillis: second. >> clerk: commissioners, there is a motion and a second to take dr. and approve with the condition to eliminate the mud room interior door. >> vice president richards: for the lower unit. >> president hillis: it's the door between the unit and the mud room. >> clerk: correct. on that motion -- [ roll call. ] >> clerk: so moved, commissioners. that motion passes, 5-1. >> president hillis: all right. that adjourns the meeting. thank you. >> thank you.

>> it's great to see everyone kind of get together and prove, that you know, building our culture is something that can be reckoned with. >> i am desi, chair of economic development for soma filipinos. so that -- [ inaudible ] know that soma filipino exists, and it's also our economic platform, so we can start to build filipino businesses so we can start to build the cultural district. >> i studied the bok chase choy

her achbl heritage, and i discovered this awesome bok choy. working at i-market is amazing. you've got all these amazing people coming out here to share one culture. >> when i heard that there was a market with, like, a lot of filipino food, it was like oh, wow, that's the closest thing i've got to home, so, like, i'm going to try everything. >> fried rice, and wings, and three different cliefz sliders. i haven't tried the adobe yet, but just smelling it yet brings back home and a ton of memories. >> the binca is made out of

different ingredients, including cheese. but here, we put a twist on it. why not have nutella, rocky road, we have blue berry. we're not just limiting it to just the classic with salted egg and cheese. >> we try to cook food that you don't normally find from filipino food vendors, like the lichon, for example. it's something that it took years to come up with, to perfect, to get the skin just right, the flavor, and it's one of our most popular dishes, and people love it. this, it's kind of me trying to chase a dream that i had for a long time.

when i got tired of the corporate world, i decided that i wanted to give it a try and see if people would actually like our food. i think it's a wonderful opportunity for the filipino culture to shine. everybody keeps saying filipino food is the next big thing. i think it's already big, and to have all of us here together, it's just -- it just blows my mind sometimes that there's so many of us bringing -- bringing filipino food to the city finally. >> i'm alex, the owner of the lumpia company. the food that i create is basically the filipino-american experience. i wasn't a chef to start with, but i literally love lumpia, but my food is my favorite foods i like to eat, put into

my favorite filipino foods, put together. it's not based off of recipes i learned from my mom. maybe i learned the rolling technique from my mom, but the different things that i put in are just the different things that i like, and i like to think that i have good taste. well, the very first lumpia that i came out with that really build the lumpia -- it wasn't the poerk and shrimp shanghai, but my favorite thing after partying is that bakon cheese burger lumpia. there was a time in our generation where we didn't have our own place, our own feed to

eat. before, i used to promote filipino gatherings to share the love. now, i'm taking the most exciting filipino appetizer and sharing it with other filipinos. >> it can happen in the san francisco mint, it can happen in a park, it can happen in a street park, it can happen in a tech campus. it's basically where we bring the hardware, the culture, the operating system. >> so right now, i'm eating something that brings me back to every filipino party from my childhood. it's really cool to be part of the community and reconnect with the neighborhood. >> one of our largest challenges in creating this cultural district when we compare ourselves to chinatown,

japantown or little saigon, there's little communities there that act as place makers. when you enter into little philippines, you're like where are the businesses, and that's one of the challenges we're trying to solve.

>> undercover love wouldn't be possible without the help of the mayor and all of our community partnerships out there. it costs approximately $60,000 for every event. undiscovered is a great tool for the cultural district to bring awareness by bringing the best parts of our culture which is food, music, the arts and being ativism all under one roof, and by seeing it all in this way, what it allows san franciscans to see is the dynamics of the filipino-american culture. i think in san francisco, we've kind of lost track of one of our values that makes san

francisco unique with just empathy, love, of being acceptable of different people, the out liers, the crazy ones. we've become so focused onic maing money that we forgot about those that make our city and community unique. when people come to discover, i want them to rediscover the magic of what diversity and empathy can create. when you're positive and committed to using that energy,

>> this is the regular meeting of the small business commission held on monday, march 12th, 2018. the meeting is being called to order at 5:35 p.m. small business commission thanks media services and sf govtv for televising the meeting. members of the