expect nothing to change. thank you. >> supervisor cohen: thank you. ladies and gentlemen, i'm just going to ask permission to excuse myself. this hearing is incredibly important, but have i to go onto something else. i'm sorry. i will continue to work hard and ask the questions that need to be asked, and just want to let you know that i have an open door policy. if anyone wants to leave a message for me, i will be coming back. you're welcome to do so. thank you, supervisor. next speaker. >> thank you for having this hearing. i am reverend joanna shank with faith in action. i'm a pastor at first menonnite church in the mission, which meets in the mission. i also live in the mission a couple blocks south where there was a shooting by the sfpd, and

where most recently jesus adolfo delgado was killed. i also raise my kids in the community. as a mother and a member of the community, i'm asking for a contract that represents the needs of the communities that are most impacted by overpolicing, racial profiling, and excessive use of force such as a kid being trapped in a car being shot # # times, with # 9 bullets in his body. the city must be increase the mou with the p.o.a. unless the p.o.a. agrees to these reforms. no justice, no deal. thank you.

>> i am a citizen and youth outreach specialist, and a paraprofessional for the unified school district. i'm also a youth myself. i work with opportunity youth from all districts of san francisco. i am here on behalf of a friend of mine who was recently killed by sfpd during a suspicion of a crime. as supervisor malia cohen said earlier, police officers are here to serve and protect our citizens. as a youth who works with youth and just lost a youth of my community, i'd like to state that i am very uncomfortable with this -- with the police of san francisco. i do not feel safe; therefore, i am not confident of the contract because i do not feel it is making my environment safe but actually endangering it. i do not only fear for the youth of my community but for the youth that i work with that will eventually be my age. the police that confront crimes in -- and the police that they will be working with that will be confronting crimes of their generation should be properly

trained to deescalate situations. as a paraprofessional, i am only 20 years old, and i know how to deescalate situations. i have way more training than a police officer to deescalate a situation, and i do not get paid 500 million as a salary. by 2018, i'd expect the police to be properly trained without raising pay. it would only be a reward for not properly doing their jobs. that behavior in the work industry should not be rewarded. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good morning, supervisors. my name is iman curado. i am a collaborative facilitator working to end violence in our communities and jails. i am a 23 year youth development counselor here in

san francisco. i'm a former member of the unified educators of san francisco. i'm also a proud son of union parents from local 2, and the international long shore men and warehouse workers union, certainly a son and friend of unions. especially a shout out to my mother and local 2 workers who worked with two years without a contract. so there's precedent here in san francisco for what the community is asking you to consider. i am invested in the safety and well-being of officers and future officers. i'm here representing a voice in the family and friends of jesus delgado who the showas s 99 times and struck 25 times enforcing being detained in the suspicion of a robbery.

he was a product of san francisco schools. he was a product of the department of children of youth and their families. in school and after school hours funded programs from the age of six to the age of 18. he was a recent graduate of the life learning academy. so i'm saying all that, and presenting that as, you know, currency and value in a morbid way that we would like to present in negotiations for this contract, right? we're here on the souls, the backs, the blood and the bones of the young people in our community. so please consider that. >> thank you. >> my name is pastor dimitrius. i'd just like to go on record

and say this is a very strong moral issue, that one -- we understand the difficulty that -- the job that the police department has to do. but we also must understand that as board of supervisors members and those that oversee this process, you are partially responsible in making sure that there are parts of this deal that allow the community to have a voice at this table. how is it that we can talk about public safety that doesn't include the voice of the public themselves? i understand the difficulty that chief scott has overseeing thousands of officers, buts aa person of faith, i want you to think about this. there is a passage of scripture who was talking about a de-monddemon possessed man who was cutting himself. it said he was unpettered, and he was out of control. i want you to know that the p.o.a. has created a type of environment that makes the

public look at the police department like that same scary man in the tomb, that people are out there, and they're cutting themselves. police suicides are on the rise. police misconduct on the rise, and police mistrust from the community is on the rise, and we will negotiate without the community at the table, the mistrust continues to grow out of control. we're asking, give us common senso sense reform. tell the p.o.a. we need a place at the table to negotiate the contract without the community's input is basically going to give us the same thing. we talked about the police basically having over $500 million. where are the receipts? the receipts with deare dead b misconduct, twisted text messages, racism within the department. we're not getting what we're paying for. no justice, no deal.

>> good morning. my name is sandra droutler. i've lived in the richmond district for 33 years and reside in district one. i place police accountability and community safety a high priority. i became aware of the no justice no deal campaign through faith in action, and my parish community st. john's episcopal church in the richmond. i was impressed with the report, areas where police could better serve the community while continuing to provide a safe workplace for themselves. needless to say, i was dismayed to find that little progress on implementation has been made. in fact as i have come to understand, sfpoa is the real obstacle to implementation. what can you done to gain commitment to these reforms.

i submit commitment to implementing these mou's in the current negotiation. you as the brs are in a position to request insertion of that language into the mou. i encourage you to actively enter into the negotiation process. no justice, no deal, and thank you for your time. >> good morning, honorable supervisors, frank martinez del campo rising today as a del gat of the san francisco labor council. i wanted to bring to this body's attention an issue that i believe should be considered by this community and the board of supes in the current negotiations, and that has to do with a problem, a dispute that existed between the leadership of the negotiatiass the association leaders, and the san francisco labor

council. as an aggrieved delegate of the council, i rose up in opposition to attempts by the leadership of the p.o.a. to create a -- to create a disturbances and turn to the labor movement regarding differences of opinion. now we had in the past and we currently -- some delegates currently have some problems with some issues today. i am one of them. we have problems with the killings and lack of accountability. so i rise to the central question of police accountability. everything in the coverage by the chief, i did not hear during that period of time any -- any comment that would lead me to believe that the police have a proper role in the political thought of its citizenry. and yet that's what happened when our council took a position that the leaders of the association disagreed with.

i think it's quite all right that we have a disagreement, but it's not all right to attack our labor council and our leaders for having a difference of opinion and simply holding to it. we made a decision on the sf 8, and we had it reconsidered, and we had it reratified, and so that was the source of the dispute between the leaders of the p.o.a. and our council. please look into that. >> good morning, supervisors. my name is father john kirkly. i'm the rector of the episcopal church here in the richmond neighborhood and a resident of san francisco. recently, a young woman in my congregation happened to be caucasian happened to be hanging out with her girlfriend's who were african american and was approached by

a police officer who walked into the circle of girls, looked at my parishioner and said, are these girls bothering you? not good afternoon, not my name is officer so-and-so. everybody doing okay? and it's this kind of ham handed microaggressions, all the way through the kinds of discrimination and brutality killings that you heard about today that are undermining trust in the community and making it hard for good police officers to do their job. the good news is there is something you can do about it. the board of supervisors has the responsibility for approving the contract with the p.o.a. and after having read very carefully the three blue ribbon judge's panel and the recommendation, it's very clear that the only barrier to real reform in san francisco is the

p.o.a. leadership. so i encourage you to exercise your authority to very carefully review that contract to make sure that it reflects community values, that the p.o.a. is not allowed to exploit meet and confer rights, to undermine police reform, and to make sure that written in that contract is a commitment by the p.o.a. to support the reforms -- the common sense reforms that we all know we desperately need. and you have a particular responsibility this time around given a mayor that is very compromised in his ability to be a fair overseer of the negotiation process. thank you. >> good morning, supervisors. thank you for holding this hearing. i'm reverend david waite, and

i'm a district attorney s i'm a deacon in the episcopal diocese in san francisco. the officers are being blocked by the police officer's union and by the administrative process. so in effect, the police officer's union is setting public policy. we ask that you retake that role and that you change the dialogue by refusing to sign the contract until the police officers union has agreed to stop blocking reform. thank you. no justice, no deal. [ speaking in spanish ]

>> my name is gloria sejusta and i'm with community sf. [ speaking in spanish ] >> i want to thank you for this hearing and for making the questions that you made because these are the same questions that we are asking ourselves, especially after so much violence that we have to endure in our community. [ speaking in spanish ] >> so we are glad to see our

supervisors opening up the space for the community and standing with the community because our community's not only facing a lack of respect, but we are in fact being murdered by the police. [ speaking in spanish ] >> so for me as a worker, if i don't do my job right, even if my union defends me, at the end of the night, i will be fired or suspended. [ speaking in spanish ]

>> so as a woman, as a mother, and as a youth, and the people have spoken, we suppose that the job of the police is actually to maintain the security of our community. [ speaking in spanish ] >> so at the end of the day, if they are not doing that job, then what is the recent to exist? even if they have an association that is -- i wouldn't say intelligent because that's how we describe people, but able to find ways and loopholes to defend the -- the right to kill our

community. [ speaking in spanish ] >> so finally, we talked about language access, and i mean, we saw that there's tons and tons of money, so if there's that money, where is the intention to really figure out how there's going to be that communication with the community? [ speaking in spanish ]

>> so at the end of the day, it's not about respect, it's really about rescuing our humanity, because it's not only our community that's losing our humanity, it's also our officers. because at the end of the day, what we need to do is rescue each others humanity and not allow all these different loopholes and upward barriers to get in between respecting human life. thank you. >> my name's john crew. i am a retired police analyst. i'm a tank payer, and a cranky taxpayer because we're not

getting the services, anything close to what we're paying for. supposedly, the reform process was a top priority for this city. we brought this man from los angeles to discuss reform, and yet the discussion is taking place as though the reform process is not part of the mou when it ought to be driving the mou. so in the short period i've got, i want to inject some reality. reality point number one with respect to the p.o.a., they sent you a letter claiming that it's cogswallop that they oppose the reform. that's nonsense. i can site you chapter and verse going back years. but let's pretend it's true. what the no justice, no deal is offering you, if it's cogswallop, sign on the dotted line. it's time to stop letting the p.o.a. get away with saying

anything they want, true or not do anything they want, legal or not. it's time to say no. with the respect to the idea that we can't talk publicly about what's going on in the negotiations. well, the p.o.a. is not here. they juare not here because th want to continue talking behind closed doors. they are participating in radio ads, claiming that the public is like north korea ads. the p.o.a. has been consistently resisting 21st century reforms. they are for trump policing. they are for make america great again, they are for 19th century policing. no justice, no deal, stop this deal and say no to the p.o.a. >> good morning. thank you to this committee for hosting this hearing and bringing critical attention to

the police contract negotiations. my name is anan subermanian, and the no justice no deal main demand is dhr must negotiate a term into the new contract guaranteeing that the p.o.a. will not blocks reforms and make the city less safe. the p.o.a. must agree not to block implementations -- i've testified in this chamber before about my work on the blue ribbon panel on transparency accountability and fairness in law enforcement. these negotiations over a new contract are a rare opportunity for the city to address one of the panel's major findings. the p.o.a. has undue and excessive power over the city's public safety policy. dhr may claim that it's

negotiating the best contract it can for the city within the norms of labor negotiation. but now is not the time for norm. it is not the time for business as usually. it is past time to be courageous and make a bold demand at the negotiating table, one that is narrowly tied to solving the institutional barrier for safety. with you understand that the institution takes lead from the mayor. we are very concerned about the mayor's conflict of interest in this regard, and have asked him to stay direction to the board of supervisors for this very limited purpose. as you've already stated, the mayor's pro-p.o.a. position on the tazer initiative, and the appointment of a p.o.a. consultant reflects his conflict of interest. we're here to ask you to adopt our demands. this means doing everything in your power to influence dhr to put the dog cops report demand

on the table. thank you. >> supervisor kim: thank you. >> yes. my name is edwin wiataite, andm retired after 25 years at san francisco state university, public relations. i just want to address one thing. everyone else has spoken so eloquently about the issues in our communities that we live in in san francisco and to some of the other legal issues that have come up. but specifically, i understand that the p.o.a. has filed a lawsuit saying that the city has failed to meet and confer over the initiation of work rules that would address potentially lethal force. that is totally and apparently from the news untrue. there is a difference between the failure to meet and confer and the failure to come to

agreement. and so the p.o.a. is changing the agreement. so i ask you to stay focused on the issues 234 what tin what tn do to complete these negotiations in a fair and honorable way. thank you very much. >> good morning, supervisors. >> good morning. my name is susana rojas, and we are a coalition representing nine people. there are more of us, and we are the justice for jesus adolfo delgado juarez coalition, and right now, i am going to be translating for mr. jose juarez who is jesus delgado's father.

[ speaking in spanish ] >> my name is jose, and i'm adolfo's father, and he is a person that the police killed and maimed, and we didn't realize how that was going to leave us. and i heard the chief ask for money for training. my question is where is that money going? where is the training that teaches them how to deal with people and how to deescalate? [ speaking in spanish ] >> thank you. >> supervisor kim: thank you very much for coming personally today. >> hi. my name's casey brown gallardo,

and i'm a member for the justice for adolfo coalition. i know you both. we've worked on domestic violence prevention. today i come before you humbled, because it is all of our fault. we all failed this young man. it's not only the p.o.a., it's not only the police, it's all of us. where were the vans doing outreach? there's so many questions why this happened, but i'm here before you to tell you we want to work to figure this out. we want police reform as much as you guys. i have seen both of you and malia champion police reforms. i trust that today is a new day in san francisco. i trust that this city, that this board, that this community, that everyone who has come before you here today is invested in working for social justice, in working at putting these contractings in,

these blue ribbon recommendations. somebody that will come out and negotiate before a gun gets fired. it was -- it was -- i don't even know how many minutes before the officers starting shootin'. that is not enough. we have more time to negotiate life. life is the only thing in this world that matters. i know it matters to you guys. it definitely matters to our community. and we need police reform. it is a systematic institution mindset that needs to be changed. and guess what? our community, we also need to change the mindset because we don't trust police. there is he a lot of reasons w. i can't go into it. i don't have all days, but we need to figure outweighs of working together. you have experts in your community. you know them, they come and advocate before you every day. let's change this. let's make this something that truly represents everyone that

san francisco can be. no justice, no deal. >> good morning, supervisors. i'm julian gross. i'm a local attorney with policy link. i'm also a resident of san francisco. i have been assisting the no justice, no deal coalition on legal points related to this campaign, so i just wanted to emphasize a couple legal points. first of all, i regularly represent public entities, including local jurisdictions, local cities, state of california in complex negotiations with building trades unions over pla's, negotiations with developers, as well as representing community groups, so i have come at this from a lot of different angles, and i really appreciate your leadership as the board in wanting to play a role in being involved with

giving clear instructions to your negotiating team and looking over the outcomes of negotiations where you can. couple legal points. one on the public use of force policy, the current briefing by the city in front of the court of peal, is that the city does not have a legal obligation to negotiate use of force policies because they're not within the scope of working additions, they're part of the fundamental management prerogative. that's the city's position, and that was their point all look. having spoken to people, i've heard some demands that the core demand, that the p.o.a. in the future, not to invoke these meet and confer interest arbitration rights with regard to implementation of the dog recommendation. i've heard rumblings that that might not be a legitimate thing that the city can ask of the p.o.a., but i want to point out that the mou contains two things that the p.o.a. greed to

with regard this with regard to future decisions by the city. that's in paragraph 12 and paragraph 299, in this act. thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm john talbot, the token mba from the no justice, no deal coalition. and i want to speak from the point of view of culture change. we are at a crucial time in the reform process for the sfpd. while the statement has been made that over half the reforms have been put in place, the truth is they aren't put in place until they're put in practice by the officers, and the officers have to make the decision at this point as to whether they follow them or whether they think the city will change leadership at some point, and then, they'll be in trouble for having followed them. i only ask you because one

thing that my career in business has taught me, when you want to see culture change, there's only one way to do it. you mess with their money. and so in one sense, we're asking you to be an authority in this case by taking charge of this contract and making sure that the reforms get built in. it won't happen any other way, and we ask you to do that. thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is natalie perry. i'm a community organizer with faith and action bay area. and possibly because i have too much hope, i'd like to share today just an appeal to our conscious -- consciences. as a person of faith, i believe in the interconnectedness of all people. we are killing our own sisters and brothers, and for what?

i think it's because we're afraid of each other, and we need to deal with that and set a precedent in our sanctuary city to deal with this differently. so we have elected you to walk with us to built a different san francisco where we can live together and learn together and believe as this city has for years as a haven for people who are perceived differently by the community, that they can be safe. and at this moment in time, that is not true, it is embarrassing. we are living into trump's narrative by not dealing with this. and so what the community has spoken today, and we need to

walk together to fix this historic problem. we are killing our own sisters and brothers and for what? it can only be solved, it can only be dismantled by developing policies that reflect our values, and we have spoken our values today. >> supervisor kim: thank you, miss terry. is there any other members of the public that would like to speak on item number three? seeing none, item three is now closed. president breed? >> president breed: thank you. i just want to start by thanking everyone for coming out today. i know this is a really challenging topic to discuss openly in this way and in a respectful way. and as a person of faith myself, i appreciate the

approach taken in how, you know, what we want more than anything to make sure that public safety is at the top of your agenda. we want people in our community to go home safe, and we want our officers to go home safe. and how we get to that conclusion, there is definitely a lot of work to be done. and let me just start by saying, as some of you know, i agree up in the western addition and grew up in an environment where there were no conversations to be had with the police. and when i started working in the community, especially during the height of significant gun violence, where my friends who grew up with one another were basically sadly killing each other, where we were losing lives on a regular basis, where our community was pretty much devastated, i wanted the police in our community, and i wanted them to protect our community, and i worked hard to develop relationships between the police and the community.

many of us came together, a number of community-based organizations and came together, building relationships. and relationships didn't happen overnight. it took years. it took the will. and we went from even the first year or so, where there were no conversations, we would invite officers in. our captains were amazing. many of the officers that worked with us were amazing. we would invite them to events. many of our young people wouldn't have those conversations for the first couple of years, but after a while, there were the conversations, there were the hellos. there were the development of a relationship that existed where the police knew members of our community, our community knew members of the police, and things began to change. and i think that it is important that as a city, we set what those procedures and

guidelines and everything are and put them in place. but ultimately, we want to make sure that we have good people that are serving and protecting the public, and that we hold those officers that unfortunately are the ones that make it challenging or difficult for other officers, that we hold them accountable when the type of things occur that devastation in the community occurs. and that is the thing that i am committed to, and supervisor cohen and i have worked tirelessly on. it is something we have to continue to work on and make sure that there is accountability and it takes all of us working together to get to that point. i'm really proud of the work that we've done in the western addition. we've come a long way. i'm reminded of a problem who occurred with one of the members of our program who sadly had a shotgun, and the officers who spotted him and spotted the shotgun, you know,

basically, had they not known him, they could have easily probably shot him and killed him, and it was a completely different scenario, completely different outcome when he pulled the shotgun out of his pants to throw it and run, and sadly, he was arrested, but no one was harmed. and not to say that, you know, there aren't challenges in our community. there are challenges, but ultimately, you know, we have all got to work together to get to a better place and really try and hold one another accountable to moving in the right direction. i think that i'm really grateful to the chief for the work that he's done to try and implement the reforms. and i also am looking forward to the implementation of building better relationships with the community and making sure that, you know, like as it happens in the western addition and in particular that the police aren't just there when

there's a problem. they're there for many of the events and many of the things that are current in the community which, over time, does build relationships. so we have a long way to go and the discussions around this contract which we have definitely had in closed session as members of the board of supervisors that meet our expectations to make sure that certain requirements are placed within the context of the contract. i am looking forward to making sure that it is a good contract because i do think that our officers deserve a fair wage comparable to the service that they provide, but i also think that it is extremely important that there is accountability, that there is this really, you know, clarity around what is appropriate and not appropriate as it relates to what officers

do so that the discipline and all the other things that come into play, when something goes wrong, that sort of thing has got to be embedded also in the culture of the department and the contracts that we expect to sign. i know that we've been meeting regularly to have those discussions, and i really appreciate the feedback and the comments, and i also just really appreciate the openness and willingness for the chief and miss isen to work with us to come up with the appropriate agreement as it relates to all of on you concerns around the reform, and we are committed to continuing to work to address those particular issues. and let me just finally say, you know, my condolences go out to the families who have lost

their children, their family members, their brothers, their cousins. i sadly have said this before, you know, unfortunately in 2006. you know, my cousin was killed in the bayview-hunters point by the police department here, and there was no independent investigation or anything that occurred, and as a result of the work we've done on the board of supervisors, i am proud that there are now independent investigations that are automatic without the need to make that request. and that is definitely a step in the right direction, and we have more work to do because one life lost is one life too many. so again, i appreciate everyone for being here. we are definitely committed to the reforms holding us account

for our very agencies which we fund, and which we direct. so i also want to recognize the family who came personally

today. i know how hard and difficult this loss is, and i just want to thank you for coming out to speak to us, and for your courage in coming to public comme comment. >> president breed: i just wanted to add more one thing, supervisor kim. you know, the fact that there were 272 recommendations, and we've been able to implement over half of those recommendations is-gsh -- is y significant. although i know that it doesn't change the events that have occurred in the past, implementing recommendations, this many, does take time, and ultimately, i think we want to make sure that as we move forward in this process, that the implementation actually leads to the results that we're all looking for as it relates to reforms with the department. and so i just wanted to add that point, as well, and again, thank the chief for his work in

moving these items forward. i know it's not an easy job. it does take time. we know that time is of the essence as it relates to the need to reform the department, but i do appreciate your work and how you are moving the department, i believe, in the right direction, but clearly, we still have a lot more work to do, and so thank you all again. >> supervisor kim: okay. thank you, president breed. supervisor cohen has asked to make a motion that we file this item, so i cwill make that motion, and we can do that without opposition. again, thank you to members of the community would came out tod today. please continue to dialogue us. and without further adieu, mr. clerk, can we please move to our last item, item number two, which we skipped over to item number three. >> clerk: item number two is a motion approving budget

analyst's budget -- [ inaudible ] board of supervisors service deeds, and requires board of supervisors approval for hours reallocation greater than 20, and establishes -- excuse me, for hours greater than 20% and establishes performance goals and sets a date of -- [ inaudible ] -- joint venture partnership. >> supervisor kim: thank you so much, mr. carroll. incompetence to recognize karen campbell, and all the time and energy you and your office have invested. the bla has done an impeccable job in budget and financial analysis which we all depend on as we all make decisions around policies and budget and conduct

many special studies and audits that the city requests in departments for the board of supervisors. miss campbell, i want to bring you up for a short presentation, and then, we will open up for public comment on this item. thank you so much, miss campbell. >> yes. thank you, chair kim. supervisor peskin -- excuse me, supervisor breed. this is required every year by our contract that we submit our annual work plan for approval as well as our performance measures. we base the allocation of hours in our work plan on the requirements of our contract and actual service levels that we provide to the board. it is divided among budget analysis, our weekly legislative reports to the budget and finance committee or the jao, and then audits and policy analysises. the main difference from prior years is recognizing the increased budget analysis that

we will be providing to the board this year, and i'm available for any questions you may have. >> supervisor kim: i don't see any questions or comments, but i do want to thank bla so much for their work. i really do -- i really do appreciate all of your work in your reports, and they help us in guidance in policy making. so at this time we will open it up for public comment on this item. seeing no public comment, public comment is now closed. can we -- i'm going to make a motion to move this forward to the full board with positive recommendation, and i can do that without any opposition. mr. clerk, can you please call items 4 through 12. >> clerk: agenda item numbers four through 12 are various ordinances and resolutions authorizing the settlements of lawsuits against the city and county of san francisco. >> supervisor kim: thank you so much. and before we take a motion to go into closed session, we do open up for public comment on

items four through 12. seeing no public comment, public comment is now closed for these items. we will take a motion to convene into closed session, and we can do that without opposition. we do ask members of the public to exit the room, >> clerk: madam chair we're back in session march 21st, 2018 government audit and oversight. >> supervisor kim: thank you, mr. clerk. mr. givner? >> deputy city attorney jon givner. during the closed session, the committee voted 2-0 with supervisor peskin excused to forward items four through eight, ten, and 12 to the full board with positive recommendation and to continue items nine and 11 to the call of the chair. >> supervisor kim: thank you so much, mr. givner. mr. clerk are there any other items to -- oh, can we take a

motion to not disclose? >> president breed: so moved. >> supervisor kim: so we have a motion to not disclose, and we can do that without opposition. mr. clerk, are there any other items before the committee today? >> clerk: there's no further business. >> supervisor kim: meeting is adjourned. thank you so much. >> clerk: all right.

i want to thank everyone for coming here, all of the guests and leaders standing behind me. we're here today because history, earthquakes and climate change compel us to protect our city. history. over 100 years ago, the 'em sea wall was built and we're fortunate it lasted this long. it was built at a time when they didn't know how to stabilize against earthquake risk. we know the big one will strike us at some point over the next three decades. and if it does, we'll see flooding along the water front. climate change, despite climate deniers we know that the estimates of sea level rise by the end of the next century are 4-10 feet. we need to fix this sea wall. what is it that