hemlock tavern accommodation in this ordinance. and i will see the rest of my time for your long afternoon. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you very much. any other members of the public who wish to comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues can we go to motion item 3. >> supervisor peskin: can you take the amendment? >> supervisor kim: i make the motion to make the amendments. >> supervisor tang: okay. we will do that without objection. >> supervisor kim: and make a motion to move this forward with recommendation to the full board. >> supervisor tang: we will do that as amended. thank you. madam clerk, item 4 please. [reading item #4] >> supervisor tang: thank you. once again we have supervisor peskin up. >> supervisor peskin: thank you, madame chair, colleagues. the item before you today is at

least in my mind an obvious an standard piece of the overall legislative package to accomplish a permitting program for new and proliferating business model of motorized scooter or powered scooters. we are familiar with this because it is exactly what the board unanimously passed for bicycles last year. as with the stationless bikes, we are ensuring that the san francisco municipal transportation agency creates a permit process, as well as giving public works department the power to enforce the sanctity and safety of our public space, particularly our sidewalks. the technical aspects of the legislation are not the only similarities from last year. i want to stress this because it is clear many of these companies continue to build their corporate empires off a basic

premise. making massive profits and innovation is only possible by cutting corners. everything, including public assets are there to be mon anytized and it is somehow the fault of the local communities and governments that they didn't think to publicize this first. san francisco's only here to quite literally, pun intended, be given the bird by tech ceo who jump from one company to the next. the hysteria apparently we are -- according to a press release issued by one of the companies at an emergency meeting, which it is not. it was actually introduced a month and a half ago and has gotten here during the normal course of business. there's nothing extraordinary about it. and as i said, it's virtually identical to the legislation that we passed unanimously with regard to permitting of

stationless bicycles. i represent a district with the highest concentration of low income seniors in a city with one of the highest numbers of pedestrian collisions and fatalities in the state. district three is the dens district that rely on a.d.a. and pedestrian travel. so, when i see fallacies being spouted by ceo's about how ever scooter is one less car and how seniors and pedestrians and parents walking their kids to school somehow just need to get over themselves and get out of the way of this machine, i find it to be offensively and arrogant. in addition to hundreds of form letters generated by bird and

lime, i have also and i'm sure you have received hundreds of complaints, photos, videos, telephone calls and emails from angry people who feel exactly the same way. so, before we get into the actual policy issues with how these companies are operating, i will just say that the pretentious -- we're saving the world attitude, who are doing important work to advocate for alternative modes of transit is really not welcome and i hope that that behavior stops. as policy makers, we're tasked with balancing the competing needs of our public realm and private corporations are at the bottom of that priority list. especially since i have yet to see any of them actually do one thing to actually address our massive transportation infrastructure. some of these companies are being financed by companies like

uber. we're told that somehow uber is a transit alternative that is decongesting our streets, even though we have the hard data prepared by the san francisco county transportation authority that shows that at peak in some parts of the city they are adding to 20 -- 26% of the congestion. according the an article in tech crunch, the cost of one of these scooters is $125 apiece. each scooter dies out in two months time. by the way, only about 80 of those uses would be profitable to the company. when people complain about street junk being dumped on the city streets, they are closer to the truth and that they know. all you need to do is to see the photos of scooters piled up in heaps as well as the ones dumped into trash cans. i have a lot more to say, but colleagues, i would like to hear from the public and i do have

one small amendment that i have passed out at the suggestion of city attorney to change motorized to powered and those de minimis clarifications are in front of each member of the committee and i will also provide that to our committee clerk. with that, madame chair, i will turn it back to you. i will bring up something at the board of supervisors, at the same time they are resincing, they are lobby -- resisting think want to introduce an assembly bill that will deregulate helmet and increasing speed by 33% to 20 miles an hour and to what end? to further impair our city's pedestrians and the users of these devices themselves.

>> supervisor tang: thank you. colleagues, do we have any further comments or questions? i think i will save my -- i'm sorry. we are all going to save our comments until after public comment. given the number, i will be limiting public comment to one minute per speaker so we will be able to make it through everyone. i have a couple of comment cards here. timmy waters, cathy deluca -- i'm sorry. we have m.t.a. staff here. my apologies. i will still call a few comment cards so folks can line up. john lowell. cow can please line up by the drapes. we have s.f. m.t.a. staff. >> thank you chair tang, members of the committee and supervisor peskin for sponsoring this important legislation.

i'm happy to present this collaborative legislation today to amend division i of the transportation code to address motorized scooter sharing programs or as amended by supervisor peskin, powered scooter sharing programs. we have been working very close with the board of supervisors on this legislation recognizing the point need. thanking supervisor peskin for his leadership and supervisor kim and her office for her help as well. to start, whether it is bike share, car share or other sharing, math sees the interest in providing more mobility options as a good thing. to the extend that motorized scooter help to make the transportation system safer, more accessible, we support it. but as the supervisor mentioned, we have a lot of questions regarding the operations of

scooters sharing in san francisco. so, we are proceeding with a lot of caution. that's why this is a really important piece of legislation to make sure that motorized scooter are regulated in a manner that promotes public health and safety. i want to mention this division i legislation to the transportation code is being complemented by division ii legislation that will be approved by the m.t.a. board of directors. the division i legislation prohibits stationless scooter sharing without a permit. the division ii would lay out the details of that permitting process. we expect to get to the m.t.a. board with that legislation on may one. so, recognizing there's a lot of public comment i won't say a whole lot. we want to say scooter sharing is new. it was launched in santa monica in 2017. three companies began operation in san francisco in march and we have spoken to other companies that have an interest in operating but have preferred to wait for a permit program to

exist before launching. we regular news there's a strong need -- recognize there's a strong need to have the permitting in place. and we have heard from the city. primarily with regards to concern over the failure of the companies to comply with existing regulations prohibits sidewalk riding and blocking pedestrian paths. so, our goal from this permitting program and from this legislation is to capture the benefits while eliminating the impacts. with that said, the division ii legislation would be heard by m.t.a. board on may one, there's a lot of details still being -- may 1st, but there's a lot of details being worked out. everything we do is maintaining the safety of our pedestrians and preventing sidewalks from being blocked by scooters and also preventing sidewalk riding. second requiring data sharing with the city so we can understand how scooters are operating and requiring review

of the company's privacy policies to ensure the data they are collecting from their customers are ensuring consumer protection. and finally, concern with equity and ensure the programs have affordable membership for low income users. in closing, the need for this legislation is clear and the legislation is a great xaem pl of collaboration -- example of collaboration between the m.t.a. and board of supervisors. we are excited to support this legislation and ensure any use of the public right-of-way is in the public interest and that standard applies to private companies as well as everybody else. with that i think we are going to public comment. i am happy to take questions. >> supervisor tang: thank you. supervisor peskin. >> supervisor peskin: i want to thank mr. parks for the collaborative spirit they have worked with my office and

supervisor kim's office. i want to underscore one thing that is important. the legislation that is before us today was introduced on march 7th and was introduced very publicly. it was actually reported in newspapers in san francisco and the various companies -- and thank you mr., parks, there are other companies who chose not to do this who are in the same business, chose several weeks to dump these on the streets of san francisco, knowing full well that this day would come when we would be considering a regulatory scheme and a permitting scheme as we have in other instances of emerging shared mobility technology. so, it is a little preposterous for these companies to now be hysterical and issuing breaking news press releases claiming that we are doing something that they didn't know about.

it's been very public for six weeks. it has been very public actually since the days we regulated segues on our public sidewalks a decade and a half ago. >> supervisor tang: thank you, supervisor peskin. so, now we will go back to public comment and i have some comment cards i will read one more time. fran taylor, john lowell, timothy waters, cathy deluca and sam. again we're going to have to minimize public comment to a minute each so we will be able to get through everyone. >> i'm bob as a member of senior disability action. i support and we support the idea of this legislation to deter the misuse. this is simple regulation. it is not prohibition. and i -- i'm deter. recent stories have pictures that were in hood line showing a scooter with its handle in a blue curb parking lane.

that means it is not really usable. [bell].. >> another picture showed a scooter blocking the mechanism to open the door to the sony -- meaning people with disabilities can't operate that motor vehicle nifrm -- mechanism. i saw one of the mechanisms to inform the blind when they can cross. so they could stumble across it. there's hazards and dangers. this would help. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon supervisors. my name is neo -- fiona lindsay. [indiscernible] >> we stand in strong support of regulation of these scooters primarily for the fact --

[indiscernible] >> and seniors and people who are -- use mobility devices. [bell]. >> for example when a person in a power chair might encounter one of these scooters, they may have to swerve quickly to avoid accidents. also hundreds of these scooters piling up in the same place may block the loading and unloading for people using vehicles such as accessible vansment we believe more regulation is necessary -- [bell]. [mic turned off] >> supervisor tang: thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisor. i'm speaking on behalf of the

developers and work force development organization. i come to support the lime bike and their initiatives they do in bayview. we have been working with them since 2017. they are very supportive of our mission. two points i want to highlight. one proactively they are working with us and have actually hired folks from our community into their operation. [bell]. >> work is fun but contributes to the growth of bayview. secondly in a comment i heard a few seconds ago, they are actually working on and will be rolling out low income solutions for polk folks in the community. that helps remove that barrier. we are here to support the program. thank you for opportunity. >> supervisor tang: thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is john lowell. under your approval i served for

ten years on the pedestrian safety advisory committee representing the safety needs of those who are vulnerable, children, seniors and people with disabilities. from a person perspective, i also approach you to seek your approval of this as a committee for the whole board of supervisors to vote on as it was 17 years ago i sustained many injuries when i was hit at the intersection on 14th and mission. [bell]. >> so many points combined, i emphasize the importance to you of passing this regulation ordinance to ensure that there is -- we improve safety on the sidewalks of all pedestrians and particularly those of us who are vulnerable. please approve this. thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is cathy deluca.

i'm here to urge you to regulate these scooter companies. the scooters have the potential to be part of our transportation system and we have to see how that will play out. but what we do know is happening right now is that pedestrians on our sidewalk are not safe. these vehicles can go up to 15 miles an hour and they are being ridding an over our sidewalks. and sidewalks are the one place in the city where people don't have to dodge vehicles and it needs to stay that way. [bell]. >> we have been receiving a lot of criticism in the past week. saying that we're not focusing on the real danger on our streets, which is cars. and i will tell you that every single day of my job i fight for vision zero. i fight for safer streets as does all of walk san francisco. fighting for street safety and for sidewalk safety are not mutually exclusive. the city can do more than two things at once. we need a system to regulate these companies because clearly they are not self-regulating.

thank you. >> my name is fran taylor and i support this legislation. i have heard the companies and their supporters whining, what about the homeless encampments. this is a total false e quiver -- equivalentcy. i think the scooters run amuck. a plot of young people to kill us old farts so they could have our rental controlled apartments. [laughter] >> supervisor tang: i will call other speaker cards here. i see a lot of people lined up. >> good afternoon, supervisors. thank you for having us. my name is rodney hampton jr.

i'm here representing bayview latino community, members of c-step and church members. we are in support of bike lime scooters. i hear people's concerns of the sidewalks. you have the garbage cans. [bell]. >> you have a number of things, illegal dumps, feces from dogs and cats. the city has developed a number of policies to actually fix situations like this. i believe lime bike is definitely willing and hearing people concerns and willing to work with the city to make -- and address the concerns in safety and fashionable way. they are in the community. they are doing a fantastic job. [bell]. >> they have attended several

events. [mic turned off] >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please. go my name is randall. i'm a district five resident. scoot users will pay 50 cents to avoid one way busy sidewalks. second, independent contractor charges these companies are using are allowed to charge ten scooters at the time. i have seen people mention they are charging 30 scooters in their apartments. i believe this puts the community at risk to fires from daisy strips. i don't think it is a safe product to be shared. i have seen a number of scooters broken in half and with broken handlebars. how do i know the user before we didn't misuse in it a way that puts me at risk. like i said, these are consumer

grade products not designed for shared use. and electric potentially e-waste isn't a sustainable form of alternative transportation. [bell]. [mic turned off] >> supervisor tang: thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> hi. my name is andrew lee. i support the continued presence of dockless scooters in san francisco. i rely on them as my primary mode of transportation. i do not own a car. before scooters i would take a lyft or uber. i hope legislation doesn't reduce the availability of the scooters in san francisco. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello. i have been commuting into the city pretty much my entire

professional life. i worked at city college. so, i come from a multi-variable perspective. i'm hear to speak in support of bird scooters and against this regulation. like most commuters, i think we have a crisis and we need to be progressive and realize there is no silver bullet to this crisis. i'm here to speak in support of that. [bell]. >> asking the supervisors to please channel that progressive mindset and understand that including the creative ways of thinking into the bridge tapestry of this city is the way we have gotten here. we are proud of that tradition in the bay area. supervisor peskin, i hope you understand there are lots of people out here who think this is a creative solution that can work for the city. i hope you take that into account and not reactively legislate. instead look progressively forward to how to improve the city. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please.

>> my name is sam. i am a resident of the city and i have been using the scooters for the last month for my work commute. i would usually use an uber. i'm aware not all scooter users have been well behaved but i have been able to mind the rules of the road and park in appropriate safe places. i agree we shouldn't have people riding them on the sidewalks. just as we shouldn't have bicycles, tents, needles or human waste on our sidewalks, all of which i encountered on my way here. i didn't encounter any scooters on my way here. [bell]. >> i believe we can enforce the issues. at the moment the scooter concept is misunderstood but is december rattly needed in our city. just one parking space can fit over two dozen e-scooters and it can carry multiple users to and from their destination with zero emissions. i know with the right amoech we -- approach we can make the sharing great for our community. thank you.

[applause] >> supervisor tang: thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is sam. i'm here on behalf of lime bike. first like to thank you all for taking the time to discuss this legislation. we look forward to a fair and transparent process that balances the real and serious concerns of the public with the many transportation benefits that electric scooters bring. lime has implemented a robust community outreach and education program that includes community based organizations as well as groups that represent disabled communities. we have hired locally and been supportive of local community based events. [bell]. >> we continue to view the city and county of san francisco as partners in this effort and want to work collectively to craft solutions. thank you very much. >> supervisor tang: thank you. >> hello. my name is sherry, western edition. i'm amazed by the arrogance i have heard here today.

it's astounding and i'm very distress. supervisor peskin was right. we have a situation here where the arrogance and you all should know better and you all quite frankly should have been preparing this a long time ago. what are you doing about skateboards? just the other day, three guys on skateboards came towards me on the sidewalk. [bell]. >> one of them flipped their skateboard, hit me in the leg. i think i'm going to go back, live in the 1850s and i'm going to hitch my horse up somewhere and see how the scooters like that. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. >> hello. my name is theodore lawrence. i'm here representing -- i'm a bayview resident. i just want to say as a young person out here living in the city and trying to make ends meet that these new companies that are coming around are providing a huge revolution for

us as young people. it provides us, especially with the bikes, to get across the city easily. and the scooters allow us to get from place to place within the smaller confines of like downtown area. and they also provide more work opportunities for us young people interested in the tech field. [bell]. >> the world itself is being revolutionized by tech. even over in china they have a huge bike share program. the scooters are providing us with ways to make money because they have a charger program and help with gentrification. because a lot of these people in low income cities are having a hard time with a lot of the new stuff coming up. this provides us to fully integrate as one. it is just the beginning stages. [bell]. >> yeah. [mic turned off] >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker please.

>> good afternoon. i just came here to say that i'm from san francisco as a native, i can see both the problem of seeing the scooters kind of just entrapping people, just blocking the sidewalks and riding all over them. but the thing is, that's a problem of misdirection and miscommunication being the company has only had a couple of weeks to deal with this. there's a lot of initiatives in place and procedures i can think of off the top of my head. [bell]. >> putting cameras on the scooters and putting more exact gps and if they want to make theme heavier, make theme faster so people can't pick -- them faster so people can't pick them up and thrown them in garbages. with these new toys, there's a lot of things that come with them. such as -- like, putting different measures in place --

[bell]. >> [mic turned off] >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please. >> thanks for doing what you guys do. please help move this in a direction of moving away from car ownership and car ridership. i love our city. i think they would be much better with more pedestrians, more people on bikes and more people on scooters. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors. president neighbor association. the patrol neighborhoods are rapidly developing mixed use neighborhood and we are looking for any option to get away from a car that we can, but those options need to be regulated for the riders, the users and for the other modes of transportation. we are in support of this legislation. we are also in support of development. there was a comment about the

city being progressive and accepting new forms of development. the clearest way to get reactive legislation is to shoot first and ask questions later, which is what is happening in this circumstance. [bell]. [applause] >> this revolution i work with the san francisco m.t.a. on a number of issues. they are very open to new ways of getting around. there are a number of policies that is divide car ownership. let's create a level playing field for the new technologies and not a playing field that will reward those that disregard our laws and disregard -- and harm those companies that do follow our laws. thank you very much. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please. >> my name is karen. i'm part of seniors disability actions transit justice program. i want to remind you what is going on, on our sidewalks already. garbage cans, fire hydrants, light posts, street signs, street trees, which i happen to

love, parking signs, magazine stands, mailboxes, benches, bus stops and sometimes people on bicycles. they are very busy filled spaces already and pedestrians are -- [bell]. >> seem like we are getting left out in the cold. we have been down here before to discuss with you segue, robots on the street and now scooters. and i don't say ban scooters but i think they need to be regulated and the use of sidewalks by pedestrians needs to be the highest priority. thank you very much. >> supervisor tang: thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm alice rogers. i'm part of the coalition and i'm president of the neighborhood association. i'm speaking for myself. i support the resolution to adopt some regulations. i hope this is just the first of a more complete package whether

it is senator -- i mean supervisor yee's innovation task force or if it is more forward looking traffic demand manage. [bell]. >> principles -- we need comprehensive regulations for all of these wheels. but i really hope we can find equal opportunities for all of these different modes of mobility. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker. >> hi. i'm one of the organizers people protected bike line. we separate unprotecting bike lanes from the car lane and keep uber and other cars out of the bike lane. we should be talking about how do we adapt our city for our climate in the future. 46% of san francisco's, green house gases are from emissions. if you look at our city, our city tells me that you should be driving. we should be supporting these new types of transportation.

[bell]. >> they should be regulated but you need to create more protective bike lanes and more parking and storage for these vehicles and do it quickly. thank you. [applause] >> supervisor tang: thank you. sorry. we need to refrain from making applause or any other comments. so, if you could just use your spirit fingers as we like to call it. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm a san francisco native and i'm part of the chinatown transit research improvement project. i'm here to support the ordinance because as supervisor peskin said, there's a lot -- chinatown is really crowded already. so, if you guys have been on stockton street, you will know it is kind of like a football field. imagine your grandparents trying to go buy groceries for dinner and not being able to get back home because there's a scooter in the way. [bell]. >> i think the moped company is

a really great company for the power scooters to look at. their model is one of the best models they have in the city. they restrict where you can park certain mopeds and they also require members to take training classes, in person training classes for etiquette. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you very much. >> moses. i'm a martial arts instructor in visitacion valley. this company has helped me supplement my income in san francisco to allow me to continue being a positive influence in the community. i just ask i'm all for regulations but the company has treated me and my friends very well and has paid us excellent for the work we do. and we work hard and we make sure everything is safe. i do. and i know a lot of my friends we make sure things are safe. that's all. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. i had a number of speaker cards

here but i think everyone is out of order. so, just come on up. >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is joe. i have been a charger for birds since march 25th. this extra income really helps feed my family with the expensive cost of living in san francisco, every penny counts. as a native of san francisco, i see the need for the bird scooters for commuting in this congested city. also want to apologize for any difficulties our birds present to the public and we will do whatever we can to make things better. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please. >> good evening. my name is david nunez and i'm a charger for bird. birds has also helped me supplement my income. i hear a lot of things people are saying about negative aspects of how people are treating the scooters. but yet that can be done with any vehicle or any scooter,

bike. it is about the person who is in charge of it to put it away, put it in the correct place. to leave it away from people that are handicapped. i feel of course regulations are needed. everybody is needed for the community to be in a safe space. this is creating jobs and people's transportation easement to work and home. it is also getting people out and about and not sitting at home. [bell]. >> these too many positives and very little cons. let's regulate it and create more jobs. get rid of vehicles that are killing people. i have never seen a scooter on scooter accident kill somebody. [bell]. [mic turned off] >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker. >> i'm a resident here in the city. san francisco is a city of innovation and is a leader of not only california, but of the

world. back in the 1800s before the invention of cars, pedestrians were the main users of roads and we know that is not the case presently. what a lot of people don't know is that the public had to be educated not to walk on roads and to stay on the sidewalks. this is a public education problem and the users of scooters need to be educated where to park and ride the scooters. if they don't follow the laws, they should be given citations. [bell]. >> we need to balance the new with the old and move forward as a community. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. >> supervisors, my name is alex. i'm a native born and raised in san francisco. i have started using these scooters pretty much since they first came out. i use them every day. i just think that it's great that you're making a permitting process for these companies. but i hope you don't ban or in any way charge them any kind of money for the process from now

until may 1st because they are just operating a business. thanks. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker. >> hello, supervisors. my name is zachary smith. i have been a resident of north beach since 1983. and for the last five years i have basically not had to drive a car anymore in san francisco because of electric scooters. for the last five days, i have been using bird scooters and i have become a charger. it has supplemented my income and it has made me able to stay in san francisco. so, it is not just a transportation issue. [bell]. >> it's also an affordability issue. and i would hope the city would take that into account as well. of course i'm for the safe use of any type of transportation. if it is banned from the sidewalk, then people shouldn't use the sidewalk. i do wear a helmet and i do use

birds where i'm supposed to. and i like it. it's really a good solution. helping san francisco and they don't pollute. [bell]. >> thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. >> my name is brian and i'm with spin. just want to introduce ourselves and express our commitment to being good partners. we started a few weeks ago but we are trying to be as transparent as possible since early february where we reached out to the m.t.a. and we provided our plans to make sure nothing in our plans would conflict with any existing, local and state laws. since then, we have been just as responsible and transparent with our partners in the city to make sure they get regular updates and we continue to work collaboratively with m.t.a. and with the board. we would love to be a resource.

thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. >> hello. i'm katie and a resident of district two and i represent the residents who are just trying to find an efficient way to get around the city. i love living in san francisco but transportation is the most frustrating element. i work just over a mile and yet it consistently takes me over 30 minutes to get to work from home. and i have experimented with many modes of transportation. i have been using bird and it has cut my commute in half, saving significant time. the effect of scooters the city will cut don on traffic congestion and emissions in our city. [bell]. >> i'm a civil environmental engineer and i care deeply about the sustainability of our city. i understand the proper regulations, but this proposal goes too farment most riders, including myself take great effort to ride in the bike lane and follow all traffic laws. we should be allowed to continue

to utilize this urban transportation. thank you. >> hi there. i'm a resident of the marina. i think it is important for everyone to realize what technology cal trends -- technological trends are enables us to do. it is important to understand how battery costs are trending. the rise of personal mobility vehicles is something we are only at the early stages of. there's a tremendous amount of benefit to having a shared transportation service around e-bikes and e-scooters and i urge you to consider working collaboratively with these companies. the consequence i feel is that consumers will start to purchase these vehicles themselves and we will see streets more littered than ever with personal devices. we won't have the parking infrastructure and bike lanes to

deal with it. thanks. >> good afternoon, supervisors. john decastro. a couple of things. first of all, my wife was riding on her stair lift down our front stairs on sunday as four bird scooters came up in tandem you have the sidewalk and almost hit her as she got off her stair lift. there are problems with people using these things on the sidewalks. the devices should be available and also by the way, lime is not a very good neighbor. we have asked them a number of times to remove scooters and they haven't removed them for days. [bell]. >> i think dpw finally got them. bike racks are similar devices and there should be places to park these things that are designated. for example i had two jump bikes my driveway attached to a

parking pole that took me four hours to get rid of. that was at least a good response by jump bike. there needs to be more regulations around what is going on here. >> supervisor tang: thank you. if any other members of the public wanted to speak, just please feel free to line up by the far wall. >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is jeremy lin lynch. for me, my small business thrives on me figures out ways to make sure i can get money and so i can invest and continue to grow my dream. san francisco is a city i moved to because it is a city of dreams and inspiration. it is a city that collaborates with its community, its government, business and people. and i'm here to encourage you today to simply say that as a citizen who has used bird, someone who has seen my costs in

travelling to different locations the efficiencies of these scooters within the city has really allowed me to drive in a matter of three weeks and decrease my cost. which is significant not only to my being here but to the future of what we are as a city and how we work together to accomplish something great. [bell]. >> thank you so much for your time. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker please. >> my name is lewis and i'm new to the city. i'm a new resident to san francisco and to california. one of the great things i love about san francisco was the fact you adapt to the new technology that comes out. this is a great technology that saves me money. i have to deal with the fact i parked mega -- my car in for

350. it is the best to be able to take scooters instead of driving my car or worry about my bicycles being stolen as some individuals who live in the same apartment have lost both their bikes. this is great to be able to move around the city. it is the way you adapt to technology. adapt to this one. i think it is useful. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i want to say san francisco is a very progressive city and one of the most in the world. this technology with the scooters, it's very new. i understand that with each new technology that we have to figure out a way to find common ground. and i believe that if we find common ground in regulations, this will be very good for the city as far as improving and moving forward the way that we're going. as far as the economy and the people. thank you.

>> supervisor tang: thank you. >> good afternoon supervisors. i'm a resident of district five. i do want to say that my bike has been very proactive to the residents of our community. especially in low income areas and overlooked areas. i'm interested if seeing how this entry evolves and i think regulation is logical but the regulation has to be as well. i think there has to be a discussion around street infrastructure as well because some of the streets it is hard to ride scooters on. [bell]. >> i can see the temperaturation to ride on sidewalks. i feel like we need more protected bike lanes as well. also just to -- as an aside, economic opportunities have grown because of lime bike especially. for low income residents to pick up some scooters and charge. i think there is a future of

this industry. but we have to be smart with it. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker please. >> hello. my name is brandon brown. bayview resident and business owner in san francisco. also former gm of bike -- i remember when these ride share contracts came out. i think the real issue is the docking stations and picking up of the bikes like gentleman just said earlier. and the real issue is cars, not scooters and bikes. the city from what i have seen so far over the past seven years revolves around a cycling culture. when we are thinking about bringing these companies in, we could think about the actual culture and what we want to portray. that we are progressive and

trying to cut carbon emissions down. we should open up multiple contracts for docking which i would think solve a lot of problems that we have. [bell]. >> supervisor tang: thank you. again, if anyone else wants to speak, please come and line up by the drapes. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm carl hanson with bird. first i want to say i think we share a lot of the same goals. san francisco has the laudable target of getting to 80% of trips being non-automotive by 2030. rides have to shift so some new technologies for that to happen. we think we found something that can really help with that goal. that said, we do absolutely empathize with the concerns of the community. we do not want to see riders riding dangerously on sidewalks or riding on sidewalks at all, parking on sidewalks no ways that present a hazard.

we had good conversations with supervisor kim's office, with walk san francisco and have set up some new ways of addressing this, including taking a photo, requiring riders to take a photo at the end of each ride, demonstrating they have parked safely. we are adding a no riding on sidewalks rule to each bird and we also want to ensure that is a robust conversation. and would love to meet in anyone in your districts. finally, our only concern here is we support regulations. we need to have the permits available and have the opportunity to apply for those permits. just a matter of timing for us. [bell]. >> if you can allow a window for us to continue to operate, that is all that we need. in that time, we want to share data with you and meet with neighborhood groups and have a robust discussion so that san francisco can have the best regulations in the country on

dockless scooters. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. supervisor peskin. >> supervisor peskin: what day did you first start to deploy these mechanisms on the streets of san francisco? >> it was just after st. patrick's day. it was after that weekend. lime launched first and then spin. i don't know if any of the reps are here. and then we launched shortly thereafter. >> supervisor peskin: and were you aware that the legislation that's being considered by this committee was pending at that time? >> correct. we had actually been in conversations with multiple parties in the city of san francisco, waiting for the permit process to come forward. we saw some of our competitors launch and then we decided to introduce a pilot. we received a letter from the m.t.a. at that point asking some questions about our operations,

which we replied to. given the current rules we're operating within the law and we're excited to work on that permit process with the city and put in regulations that address the safety concerns of the community. >> supervisor peskin: and mr., hanson, are you aware that the legislation that we are considering today is not being considered pursuant to any emergency provisions of the charter or city law? >> i'm aware. >> supervisor peskin: and are you aware that your company released a press release saying the opposite? >> if we had bad intel on that, i apologize for that. i think the situation is an emergency for us if we're required to have a permit that does not yet exist. that's why we have -- >> supervisor peskin: an emergency for you is not an emergency. if your press release you equated our promulgating this law to give the transportation authority the ability to set forth permitting scheme with

reasonable regulations akin to the steps we would take after a major earthquake. does that not seem hyperbolic to you. >> if that was -- >> supervisor peskin: what do you mean if? >> as proposed it is not an emergency ordinance. >> supervisor tang: thank you. i will ask mr. hanson if you could stay we have a lot of questions. i want to get through public comment. >> supervisor peskin: one last question. are you aware that during the course of this hearing we have received and you have received a cease and desist order from the city attorney for violations? >> i read it. the attachment we received didn't have page 2. i have not read the whole thing but i would love to see the full letter. >> supervisor peskin: it was resent to you with the missing page. >> supervisor tang: thank you. please stay.

we have more questions for you after public comment. >> i will be here. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please. if anyone else is here, please come up. >> i'm tim. i grew up in san francisco. i'm a skateboarder and i ride mopeds all around the city. i also wear a prosthetic leg. i had cancer when i was a kid. lost my leg. bird, i support it. i think it's awesome. being a san francisco resident i just think that we need to have better regulations on it and not leave the bikes on the sidewalks and ride on the sidewalk, which i actually made a point of riding on the sidewalk. [bell]. >> now that i know that might be illegal, we should just be more informative of that. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. >> hello. i'm bay area native but i have come into the city since i was

young and played chess on market street. the first time i rode bird on the embark dare ro -- embarcadero, i didn't think bird. i thanked san francisco. >> supervisor tang: thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm an independent operations and technology consultant. i have ridden the bike more than 200 times. jump more than 20 times and have done a handful of e-scooter ride. i support progressive flexible legislation for e-scooter in san francisco. a couple of points that i think are really important are around access. [bell]. >> number one. i think access to all scooters in san francisco so that people

can access the scooters without a credit card is extremely important. i also think the legislation should encompass the operations, principles in order to ensure that scooter share can survive and thrive. particularly reporting metrics around the accessibility of the scooters. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker. >> hi. my name is joseph. i'm from san francisco. i'm for bird and lime. one thing i want to point out. sounds like the regulations everyone is discussing is possibly riding people to ride in bike lanes. a lot of roads in san francisco is some of the worst roads in america. i'm not sure riding in these lanes are possible. you have to go around -- it is very easy for cars and bikes to go over the dependents.

[bell]. >> there's a lot of states that don't require people on motorcycles to ride helmets. i'm not sure why we would going 15 miles per hour. we are talking about pedestrians and accidents and traffic in san francisco, pedestrians traffic issues have been the lowest in the last seven years and actually historically has been the most in san francisco history until 2017. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors. jessica layman with senior and disability action. our members, seniors and people with disabilities have talked for decades about being nervous about bikes on sidewalks. and scooters are so much more dangerous. our seniors and disabled folks know if somebody gets hit or

trips over a scooter left on a sidewalk, they are going to end up in the hospital. there may be complications. people may or may not go home. also, when scooters are parked on the edge of the sidewalk, that blocks parking access for someone trying to get out of an accessible van or a para transit van. [bell]. >> the results we know is people don't go out and they isolate themselves. this is a serious as it sounds. we need to regulate scooters and make sure companies are following state laws and we have a plan to keep people safe. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi. my name is jeremy frish. i'm a resident of the mission. i want to second what matt said earlier. let's focus regulations on building the protected bike lane and scooter parking infrastructure needed to encourage zero emission modes of transportation like dockless bike share and scooters to be able to ride safely on the road.

studies show the more bikes and scooters on the road lead to more safer rides. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is every lynn and i'm -- evelyn and i'm speaking on behalf of seniors. and i find the tenor of this conversation a bit scary because we are just a few speakers i have heard speak up. the rest are another generation are go, go, go and that's fine, fine. and with to go, go, there are more things to fall over. and it is frightening. beware the unforseen outcomes and consequences of rushing into things. thank you so much for giving this a out of sensitive thought.

-- a lot of sensitive thought. >> good afternoon. i'm here on behalf of bird. march 25th was the day i was trying to move out of san francisco because the living cost was pretty high. since i got a chance to work with bird, it changed my mind and i was making like good money. so, i'm no longer moving from san francisco. as a rider, it's helping me to save my time and it's really convenient. [bell]. >> it is useful. only the issue we are having about the sidewalks. if we follow the rules and maintain laws, i think it is a really good idea. many of the tourists i have seen on the street they are able to go around in the city in a short time. i think it is a good idea. thank you. >> supervisor tang: thank you.

next speaker please. last call for public comment. >> my name is jack strong. i'm speaking on behalf of the bird organization. as a rider and not the young go, go generation. and a general contractor. sometimes i need to get from place to place downtown five, six blocks at a time. and the convenience of the birds since they have come up has just been very helpful for me. i could get on it and go to another meeting back and forth. no having to call an uber, cab or anything else. [bell]. >> it is very convenient for me and i have seen how the city has adopted these scooters. and i think it is a very good opportunity for san francisco and for the general community. thanks. >> supervisor tang: thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is darren. i'm the general counsel of a company you have