have here tonight before we go into more questions. >> one question for the attorney. so if the record is set that the level is supposed to be at 116db and you can challenge where the inspector takes his reading, obviously. we're not there. he's our only source. if he's saying he's at the center of the dance floor and it is a violation, you as an attorney would have to either rebut it or pay it. right. >> you pay it or appeal it. that's correct. >> okay. so you know that would be the normal process that you would tell your client. >> absolutely. >> okay. >> or anybody for that matter. thank you. >> i think we have a representative from the san francisco police department. if we could have you come up and let us know what you would like to present. that would be great.

>> i'm the acting captain. i was asked by supervisor kim's office to do basic research regarding the location specifically the halcyon nightclub. i had my staff conduct about a 6-month audit of police reports and calls for service. i could find no police reports regarding any crimes of violence emanating from the halcyon club. in researching about four months worth of calls for service, i find no police reports generated relevant to the halcyon nightclub. the only calls for service i could find were noise complaints. most recent noise complaint i looked at and examined by march 24th of 2018. that was at 1:30 in the morning.

the officers show a disposition at 5:30 in the morning, business closed. so i have no additional information to provide to the commission. i'll entertain any questions if you have any. >> no. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> all right. i think there's neighbors here, some familiar faces. you guys can come up. i would advise if you could please limit what you have to say to 3 minutes, that would be advisable. thank you. >> good evening, commissioners. there were some things mentioned i wish i had the opportunity to address, but since my time here is limited, i'm just going to go ahead and stick to my prepared remarks. but i would love to clear anything up if you all have questions. this is become a nightmare situation for us. whether so many aspects of this situation and the impact on my health i would love to discuss with you in detail. my time is limited so i'm going to stick to the main three

things i wanted to highlight. first is lack of compliance. i was surprised to read in mr. robinson's e-mail that it remains our intent to comply with the terms and conditions of halcyon's permit because that has not happened. you'll see in a moment, ms. milano has expressed she does not intend to comply. halcyon is open after 4:00 a.m. most weekends often both on friday and saturday nights. they also frequently operate in extended hours on weeknights. the limit of 12 nights per year was exceeded in 2018 and has been met in 2018. they have been cited for operating in excess of decibel limits. they are not complying. the second point is we asked the commission to consider enforceability. the condition of 12 nights per year as it stands is not enforceable. there's no one available to respond at those hours. there's no monitoring of operations to keep track of the number of nights that they run past 4:00 a.m. and during extended hours, there's no one available to check they are

operating withi decibel limits. she has open disregard for the authority of the entertainment commission itself. i have stopped contacting ms. milano directly as she does not respond. a couple weeks ago, unable to continue dealing with loud thumping bass music filling my home, i went downstairs and spoke to her, asked what time they would be closing and asked if they could turn it down. i was informed that they would not turn it down and that they would not be closing that night. when i mentioned the permit conditions, i was surprised by their response which i had a video which i might try to play. i'm not sure if you'll be able to hear, but there is a link included in your packets. you'll find that it directly contradicts mr. robinson's statement that they intend to comply with conditions. i'm going to see if i can --

[ playing inaudible video ] >> you can't hear, but, again, there's a link to this. the response was, i'm suing the entertainment commission. you're next. i'm suing you, too. do you have the resources to defend yourself? then she goes on to say i'm doing what is due me. i took that to mean that she does not recognize the authority of the entertainment commission. thanks. >> thank you. >> hi. i would like to address comments made about us neighbors not having a good relationship -- >> can you introduce your name. >> i'm tony vu, a neighbor. i live next door to holy cow and i have a great relationship with

lily. last year, she invited me to her nephew's birthday party. we have an agreement where for the past two years, we allow patio parties for holy cow on saturdays and sundays. we worked that out and we've been doing that the past two years. i want to go ahead and read my prepared remarks. i would like to address also public comments made by a commissioner back in november when halcyon was on the agenda. commissioner, your support for entertainment is understandable, but i kindly and respectfully ask for you to reconsider your thoughts that this is a situation caused by noise sensitive residents. we happily live in the middle of 11th street nightlife and have good relationships with our neighbors. however, halcyon has been no other. i would like to read a summary of halcyon's violations from the director for the record which you also have a copy of. october 29th, 2016, notice of

violation. operating without a permit. november 5th, 2016, administrative citation, operating without a permit. december 4th, 2016, administrative citation. operating without a permit. january 28th, 2017, administered a cite significance. february 26th, 2017, internal sound limit. may 2017 administrative citation unpaid. may 2017, administrative citation internal sound limit violation unpaid. november 19th, 2017, administrative, internal sound limb unpaid. december 17th, 2017, administrative citation, internal sound limit unpaid. december 24th, 2017, administrative citation, internal sound limit violation unpaid. as you know in 2018, the ec is

down one inspector for the entire city and enforcement has been limited and difficult to enforce. however, as a last friday, as you heard from director, 30 complaints have been reported by inspector during the hears since halcyon was last here in june of 2017. this is a small window in the situation and i'll let these facts speak for themselves. >> all right. thank you. >> so just in closing, we just want to share that we've been working within the guidelines of this commission and closely with your staff for the past two years with no progress. for noise complaints, staff asked us to notify them, use 311, and even call the police.

we've done all that. in fact, continued citations have been issued for sound limit violations. we've been dealing with this since the beginning and since last june, when we were here and you put an unenforce an conditions on halcyon. i would like you to strongly consider putting stricter conditions on halcyon's after-hours permit until substantial things are done to their roof. i'll leave it up to you on what you think is best appropriate. but for two years, we've reached our limit. we really hope that we can have some peace in the comfort of our own homes without being awakened from electronics bass coming from halcyon. it's okay that ms. milano doesn't like us residents. we can handle oar threats and dismissal of our communications. we respect this commission. it's apparent she does not. their action is clear that they think this commission is a complete joke. as we've been patient and have

done everything this commission has asked us to do, we're still dealing with a single bad actor doing whatever they please. >> all right. i think that's all the neighbors. commissioners, do you have more questions for halcyon, if anyone wants to probe a little bit more. commissioner thomas? >> yeah. i did have a question for halcyon. how many nights have you been open until 6:00 a.m. this year? >> this year, march 10th. >> that's the only might you've been open until 6:00 a.m. this year? how far in advance do you book your shows. >> that one was booked two weeks in advance. like other shows we book further in advance. it just depends. >> in terms of meeting our entertainment commission's

desire to have some documentation of which nights you're open until 6:00 a.m., i hear you saying that you can't provide 12 months of that up front. but would you be able to provide a month by month calendar, for example? >> i would be able to provide exactly what was asked of audio, one week's notice. i could -- i could on my own provide you earlier information, like if you knew for a fact that a deejay was coming in. i would say this particular deejay is going to go late. but, again, i want to point out the fact that audio is only required to tell you one week in advance of when they will be going past 6:00 a.m., at least that's what the management of audio has told me, the owner. >> we're not here to talk about audio. we're actually here to talk about halcyon. so i'm not asking what audio can do. i'm asking what you can do. >> i'm here asking to be treated fairly and equitably and like everyone else in san francisco, specifically the neighbors on my block. what you have just said is that

you want to treat me unfairly and not equitably. >> we're simply asking what you can provide us. we're not putting a condition on you yet. you are actually very different businesses with very different buildings. so i think we take each license separately because there's different dynamics going on. >> let me just interject. just in regard to audio's conditions, i believe it's a monthly calendar of events that the condition states. >> david told me he tells you a week in advance. >> i believe he gives me a monthly. >> we could give you a monthly calendar saying these are the dates we intend to go until 6:00 a.m. >> i have a question. is it really -- i mean, one week is fine, but i think it's a matter of counting. is it more of a counting issue, not really who the deejay is going to be. whether you tell us you're going to be open a week in advance or

a day you're going to open, you're counting down from 12. >> absolutely correct. >> that's what we're looking at. >> as of now to be clear, since june, when you conditioned me that way, i have far less until next june, i have quite a few banked. >> and that's what we want. again, it's documentation. >> uh-huh. >> so if you don't tell us, we don't know. if you're saying that you're open, you know, how are we going to rebut. >> understood. >> i have a question. >> commissioner perez. >> how would you decide when you're going to use the other dates? is are you going to do it by holidays? or do you have sanely? seasonally. >> we are generally only open on friday and start nights. -- start nights. i think that's important. we operate fridays and saturdays many we have the odd thursday that we will open. we used to do sunday three day

programming that would go into 4:00, 6:00 in the morning. we've actually changed our sunday programming to be from 6:00 p.m. to midnight in order to not create one additional night of late night music. so, for example, on 3 day weekends coming up, memorial day and so on, we have attempted to program 6:00 p.m. to midnight programming as opposed to 10:00 p.m. to late night programming. thursday nights, we've been very aware of being -- obviously we don't use the thursday night programming for 6:00 a.m. event. we're only doing it on fridays and saturdays. generally, it does tend to be saturdays. that's what the deejays like to play the longer sets like to play. in terms of the -- just to go back to the booking, again, there were certain when we book them, we know this is a deejay who likes to play a long set. this is someone we're diagnose o

use a long set for. >> you don't think in advance like 12 after-hours that you have, you don't think of it as when you begin the year? you're going to do it deejays are coming up. >> that's the way the booking program works. a lot of deejays who'll book, it's contracted they only play two hours or it's contracted they'll only play three hours or four hours. some are not contracted that way. a booking calendar doesn't -- if you look at my calendar, some people i do have booked out in november or july or whatever. i would say right now, we're booked up there may with the exception of two days we're trying to fill through june with the exception of two days we're trying to fill. so it's not like i can look at the calendar in a year and say october 29th i'm going to book a deejay that's going to play late. that's not the way talent bookings in a high -- these talents are very high demand.

it doesn't work in a way that i can give you a calendar and say these are the dates i'm going to be open late. does that make sense. >> i just wanted to ask a clarifying question. into n. these pages of text messages, were you included with the inspector and the neighbors? >> i was not. as a matter of fact, there was a time when i was included in text messages. but sean burke specifically tells the neighbors in the text message not to include me in the text messages. so for any complaints, we thought we were absolutely complaint free since june, which i think we were up until october, and we didn't even know we were getting complaints that the neighbors were starting to be concerned about noise. we were not on that trail and sean burke told the them not to include me. i thought that was unusual. we have concern about how suddenly in october of 2000 --

october 29th was the date. we became on the neighbor's radar again. i personally believe -- and my team believes -- that they found out there was this potential 19 unit residential building going in behind me, and they said, let's ramp up our efforts. and tony vu says in one text that he has got energy to ramp up his efforts. i think i mentioned in a past hearing that i feel seen e-mails and text messages who reside in the same buildings as these two, where they've sent them saying we need to ramp up our efforts of complaints. another thing i want to mention that there is a gentleman who lives -- it's george. there was a gentleman who lives -- i shouldn't mention george's name. there's a gentleman who lives in kelly ellis' building who faces halcyon. kelly has two small windows facing halcyon. he has huge windows, two floors of huge windows facing halcyon. he was in the club on march

10th. i told him that i wassing having issues again with kelly and tony, and he said are you kidding me? he said he has a 2-year-old baby there and his pregnant wife and he said, things are so much better since you opened. we're never disturbed by you guys. unfortunately, he doesn't want to come speak because he's fearful of retaliation from people who live in his building. that's a fact. >> well, according to the text message chain that we have, i know it's a very long document, there was definitely some reports to shawn about complaints that sounded like they didn't come to you. so we haven't done the detective work to sort of match updates and when you're open and looking at your calendar and all that. that's a lot of work for us to do up here, for you to do to try to figure out, and for our staff. so i think that's why i keep going back to this idea of like, how can we cooperate and make you guys work together.

>> sure. >> and how can we entrust that if we say do something, you'll do it or don't do something, you won't do it. we're not there yet. i think we would like to get closer to that by trying to get a handle on this calendar situation. >> sure. >> you're telling us, you know, you've only done -- i think you said you've done three since june 2017. but according to some of these neighbor reports, they're saying they hear stuff at 8:00 a.m. >> i went through each one of the text messages and the one that they said 8:00 a.m. was september 25th. i don't have it in here. they did complain about sound at 8:00 a.m. it was the street fair. it was september 25th. it was the street fair when we opened at that time. right? so, again, excuse me -- for folsom street fair. >> i don't want to pick on any

one instance because we can unpack that if we had more time. it goes back to the spirit of can we trust that if we say you can't go past a certain db level, you won't. if we say you can't operate certain number of times a year, that you won't. because right now, you're really testing that boundary and actually going past saying you don't agree with it. i don't think that's going to work for us. i would like to actually have us entertain this condition that we get a clear calendar from you all for our commissioners to think about that. i don't know if there's additional topics that we want to cover. i think we don't have, unfortunately, our sound inspector here to be able to help kind of give us a little bit more perspective on his experience. so i don't want to meddle too much with the sound limit at this point. i do expect that you stay at 116 and that, you know, that is abided by because that is

essentially the code in your condition. commissioner lee. >> times when your deejay wants to go over and i know it's hard to cut them off, but have you ever thought about you just lost one credit of extended hours because you have 12. right? and so let's say they go to 4:30. you just lost one of your 12 -- >> understood. they never go to 4:30. as i've said, it's a few minutes. we do understand now that you're saying that it's not 4:05 or 4:04. it's 4:00 a.m. so we understand that. thank you for clarifying that. >> i mean, that's really, you know -- i think it should be clear. obviously, if they go over so many times, you can't have extended hours. >> understood.

>> commissioner. >> i do have some thoughts on this. there probably are questions in here. i think there's a serious problem here. i think we need to address it as a commission. i think we need everybody to contribute to addressing this. clearly, there's a small group of neighbors in the neighborhood that count for a large amount of complaints. that's just a fact. it's not a qualitative. it's a quantitative truth. our issues that we have to respond to those complaints. they understand that. we're the entertainment commission. it's primarily complaint driven here. if people get together for whatever reason and you have your perspective and they have their perspective on that, we have to respond. so what happens after we respond to something? it's totally understanding that neighbors and venues don't have mutual trust of one another. we see that all the time. it's our job to mitigate that

and create situations we wok together. it's less common from my limited experience here to see the entertainment commission and the department and venue have a really limited amount of trust. and to me, it's coming down to trust right here. we have our perspective and you have your perspective. i could hear your perspective that you feel like the calibration is not up to date. so we might not be able to trust the results. that you are set at an unfair level compared to your neighbors and you're getting unnecessary attention that you don't think is the same as other people's. then from our perspective, there's really kind of quantitative trust violations. 4:00 a.m., everything is over. you can say you didn't really know that. we're pretty clear. it's 4:00 a.m. music off. that's it. it's not up for interpretation. you know, the not paying citations is clearly a sign of a lack of trust from our side. going over your limit and

continuing to get citations, even if you think that they're unfair, but going over them to us, citations is -- that's bad from our perspective. we need to do something about it. our hands are tied. then the little things like kind of choosing not to provide a calendar, which you don't have to by law and by what we said. that's not your responsibility. but if we had mute all trust, it might be something that you just provided to us just in the spirit of working better together. right? so i would like to entertain the calendar thing. the question is, we have this issue. it's serious. it's not going to go away. we're all clear on that. this is going to keep coming up. what do we do at this point? how do we solve this? so i -- you may not like it, but what i think -- this is my opinion -- we're all you've got right now. this is it. this group is all you have between you and suspension of license, et cetera, et cetera. you may not want to work with us

and you may feel strongly that you shouldn't out of principle or it's unfair or for whatever reason. but, you know, i can attest that this is a group of integrity and people are acting in good faith here and we're all you have. it's maybe i am perfect in your mind, but this is the process that it is. what i'm hoping is that we can build a trust going forward and bring you into full compliance. in that case, if complaints continue but if you're in compliance, our hands are tied. we enforce the code. if there's no citations and violations, there's not much else we can do after that point. we've done our job. right? and just for the record, to take text messages and print them out and then say what people were thinking based on that, i do not think that's a very accurate means of communication. just for example, if you took the text messages that my wife and i send each other on a daily basis, you would think we had very strong bias against each

other. but in context, it makes sense. i just want to make sure we're not reading too much into an inspector's job whose job it is to deal with differing opinions at all times in a diplomatic fashion. i don't want to make that out of context. so what i'm hoping -- first of all, i'm hoping that we can come up with something for the 6:00 a.m. i'm also hoping that we can -- with counsel, if that makes you feel more comfortable a, it's totally understandable. we can start to build a rapport and bring trust into this relationship because the other alternative, the only other alternative is punitive and probably, in your mind, draconian. so that's my plea for you. >> thank you. i appreciate you saying that. >> all right. any other questions from commissioners or statements you would like to make? >> i guess just to -- one, it sounds like your lawyer's

recommending that you pay the citations. so i'm hoping that we'll be able to get those paid. it sounds like we're all clear that, you know, 4:00 a.m. limit is a 4:00 a.m. limit and the same, a 6:00 a.m. limit is a 6:00 a.m. limit. i think i understand that you think the current decibel limit is not fair and you've been treat the unfairly in this process, but at the same time, that is what it is and it went through the same process that most of these do. so part of what we need from you and from the club is to stick to that and not get anymore citations and going to the -- you know, the commissioner's comments about building trust, it's a lot easier for us if

there are complaints from neighbors but you're operating under your decibel level, then there's -- you know, that's, i think, easier for you. that doesn't, you know -- there's no cause for citation, et cetera. it's easier for us to defend you against neighbors who are complaining about noise if you're actually operating within the legal limits. when you're not operating within the legal limits, whether that's on time or decibel, there's no way for us to defend you because you're not playing within the rules. right? and so just additionally, i think sort of assigning motivations especially bad faith motivations to people is not -- it's not a good look. it makes you not come across as operating in good faith and all

of this. we're trying to come to conclusions and come up with something that will work for everyone. that's our responsibility. we're here to try to promote and protect the entertainment industry, but we're here to ensure good relationships between the entertainment industry and the neighbors. [ stand by ] >> i think if a commissioner and someone could second it, could move to amend the conditions, specifically so that we can make the condition on the 6:00 a.m. enforceable by getting a calendar. it's pretty standard procedure for us to ask for it one month in advance. i think also the police generally want it as well, not just our office. so someone would like to make

that motion. i think there's other things contested here, like mr. robinson brought up the calibration o of our sound meter and the way we do testing. that we should hold for another day and not even focus just on halcyon for it because we want to be able to have the right method. i think our staff is actually coming up with a document to solidify the procedures around how we do that. so that can be really clear and transparent for you, halcyon, but all the other licensees out there. >> can i ask a point of clarification. >> yes. >> the 4:00 a.m. close is really the stop of the entertainment. so i just want to clarify with the neighbors who are here. they can still open as a business just the entertainment needs to stop? that means the patrons might exit after 4:00 a.m. which means

there's going to be noise on the street. but the entertainment needs to stop at 4:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. with the other one, with the expended permit? i want to make sure we're talking the same language. just stopping entertainment at 4:00. >> so i want to pick up on that, too. if by chance it goes beyond that, 15 minutes, you know, 2 minutes i don't think is -- and we realize it's going on past 4:00, then you should call the commission on monday and say, look. we went over. so we have to -- >> understood. >> take one away, maggie. at least, you know, you're showing above board that you're cooperating. >> understood. >> i would just express like a very strong sensitivity to the next 12 months of halcyon.

i think because there's a lot on both sides to process that we're willing to try to sew up this process, but citations and violations, no matter how unjust you think they are from our perspective, are the same thing, which is really bad and will then lead to further issues for you guys. i just want to stress the importance of behaving as above board as humanly possible so that he we don't have a situation we're feeling compelled to act in the near future. >> all right. i think you can have a seat. we will open this up for public comment. i think i just let the neighbors speak. but they've already spoken. there's no one else in here to give public comment.

let's move this item, commissioners. so if someone would like to concoct a motion to amend the conditions on halcyon's permit; i'm happy to hear them. >> i would like to put forth a motion to amend the permit to require notification at least one month in advance of any after-hours activity after the time of -- what time? 4:00 a.m. >> i think just providing a calendar of events for the following month is probably appropriate which would show us the times. >> i would like to amend to halcyon's permit to require a calendar of events one month in advance, given to the director. >> great. >> just to make sure we mean it's clearly indicating which ones will be after-hours. >> yep. >> is that a motion? >> that's your motion.

>> that's a motion. >> what happens if she gets a last minute deejay and the calendar went out already? >> how does that work with other venues. >> honestly, at the staff level, we do have permits that require a monthly calendar of events, but if something comes up, as we do know things get booked late, let us know. i'll add it to your tally. >> i think it's helpful to codify that. >> the other thing you could condition on because i always recommend it to operators is that they also notify neighbors of this calendar. they could also notify sfpd. >> so we want to revise the conditions of the permit to include a calendar of events given to the director one month in advance in the case that an

event is booked outside of one month, we expect them to contact the director to let her know and we also expect them to provide the calendar of events to the neighbors. and police department. maybe we can provide it somewhere that it's accessible to the neighbors. >> any neighbors that express interest, they can provide this in a newsletter format. that'[ inaudible speaker ] >> we would, too. in this case, we may have to -- maybe can be available online for any interested neighbors.

>> can it be up on your website. >> just an e-mail. send out an e-mail. >> i can also just forward it. whatever. i just felt like that could -- >> i just want to make sure this time it's enforceable. that's my concern. >> i think we can keep it vague and figure out what the right method is. i think the most important part is we can enforce the part. >> motion to amend the conditions to include a monthly calendar, delivered to the executive director and the neighbors at least one month in advance. in the case that it is not, we expect them to notify the executive director and the police. >> great. all right. is there a second? >> i second. >> all right. let's take a vote. >> do we have a discussion on this now? >> we can discuss it. yes. >> listening to what just got said to us, she has no regards for this commission, the

neighbors. everybody is out to get her. it's got nothing to do with following the rules that we've set forth. so i don't really think anybody specifically is out to get her. but i do think we have to keep that club in our radar. not to, you know, go after any certain person, but if we have somebody who was going to flaunt it, who is going to come and tell us that she's not paying the citation, that she's not going to stay in the decibel levels, that she's not going to work with the neighbors, you know, it's ridiculous. we can't have that come up here. the only thing that we can decide tonight is what the motion is. i totally agree with that. if this operator was wanting to work with us -- and i understand that the thing about trying to give it 12 months out, but if

the operators wanted to work with us, they would have said, we'll give you a heads up when we know. but this was like a shotgun approach, throw everything at us from all different angles, complain about everything. you don't take personal responsibility for what her organization or what her business does in that area. that's something that we definitely have to keep an eye on, i believe. then the other thing, which i would like to know is, we don't have -- if it's true, there are nine entertainment operators that are operating outside, then i would like to find out why we don't have jurisdiction over them and to bring them in to -- under our umbrella so that they can work with us so that if they're the ones that are

causing the nuisances out there that the neighbors think is halcyon, we need to find out about those. but that's a separate thing. >> you mean the illegal operators. >> yes. >> okay. >> i agree with you commissioner frost. i mean, what we don't have today, though, is a sound inspector to help us guide us through his readings of things and sort of some of the accusation that's were made about the meter and does it work or not and does he take it from the right places or not. so i would like to hold that and yeah. i think the main issue here is sound actually, not just how many days a week are they open and when are they open until 6:00 a.m., but really how -- what is the limit. that's been at the core of what we've been talking about the other times we've seen these guys. so i would hope in this good faith effort that it sounds like

ms. milano wants to work in partnership with us around -- she can bring her third party sound assessor and we can find where there might be sound leaks still in that venue. what other improvements. or if she has a case and that things are not -- i mean, her evidence is stronger than ours. so that's to be determined, though. so i think we can wait for another day and if you would like to ask us to bring them back in in a month or two or certain amount of time, we can do that. otherwise, i think we can sort of depend on our staff to let us know when it's appropriate to see them again. >> if she has a challenge on the level, obviously she should have the evidence to say why, you know, and if she's under compliance and no tickets, you know, why not retest it. >> yeah.

well, she wants to rely on science, but we don't have the inspector to defend the sound beside what we have seen. >> i have a personal -- skylights are a problem. i know you love them, but personally, i try to keep mine at one time and it just wouldn't work. still bothered the people in the back. so i'm just saying, i'm going by salter's report. you can keep your skylights, but in my personal opinion, it doesn't work. >> so let's just -- let's talk about the motion at hand and then we can vote on it or if you want to talk about other stuff, we can do that later. all right. let's take a vote. it doesn't look like there's any other commissioner questions. [ roll call ] >> the motion passes. many we look forward to that calendar. again, like i said, i think there are some other sort of pending issues that we hope to find some greater resolution at.

and just a word of advice, you don't have to work with this commission of, you know, 7 of us up here. that's what our staff is for. they try to deflect us from dealing with -- from things elevating to our level. so when things elevate to us, that's when things aren't working and when we have to step in and have a heavier hand. so like i said earlier, the less we hear about a venue, i think the better because to us, that means things are going well. so i hope that we can find some common ground and stop seeing you here. [ inaudible speaker ] >> let's move on with our agenda. i think we have one other item. commissioner comments and questions. commissioners, anyone want to

say anything? no? >> i wish the people from youtube headquarters to get better. that live shooting today. again, it goes to, you never know when an active shooter can happen. we all have clubs with a lot of people. i think we should all be aware of these issues. it can happen anywhere. that's all i have to say. [ inaudible speaker ] >> you can do that when we take public comment. mr. forecast. >> a couple things. st. patrick's day parade for me went well. i'm happy it's over. a lot of work, but it was fun. then i do want to mention my uncle barney passed away. he served 40 years with the street cleaning department, 27 of them he was the actual

superintendent. then he left there and went to city employees credit union where he was president for 7 years. he served with them for about 40 years. the guy lived an amazing life. he lost his wife and four kids to a house fire in '67. then got remarried. one of his kids became a firefighter here in the city. the guy served the city pretty well. i was lucky enough to go visit him friday morning. he ended up passing away while i was there. so i just wanted to make mention of that, that true public servant and just wanted to let you guys know about him. thank you. >> condolences to his family and you. any other comments, commissioners? all right. >> take the poll i sent you today for the retreat. it's three days coming up through june. >> great. we'll do that. is there any public comment on

our final comments? did you want to say something about youtube? >> i was going to say, there was a gentleman in the club on sunday who is an attorney, and they are creating a course specifically for nightclubs for active shooters. i thought that's a horrible sign of the times, but then with what happened today, i thought maybe not such a bad idea to have someone like this come and in and speak at our venues. >> yep. it was one of our main topics at our nightlife summit about a month ago. >> yeah. >> it's unfortunately the reality we live with today. >> thank you. >> yeah. thank you. any other public comment? i don't see any. this meeting is a urned judge. thank you.

ank you. >> manufacturing in cities creates this perfect platform for people to earn livelihoods and for people to create more economic prosperity. i'm kate sosa. i'm cofounder and ceo of sf made. sf made is a public private partnership in

the city of san francisco to help manufacturers start, grow, and stay right here in san francisco. sf made really provides wraparound resources for manufacturers that sets us apart from other small business support organizations who provide more generalized support. everything we do has really been developed over time by listening and thinking about what manufacturer needs grow. for example, it would be traditional things like helping them find capital, provide assistance loans, help to provide small business owners with education. we have had some great experience doing what you might call pop ups or temporary selling events, and maybe the most recent example was one that we did as part of sf made week in partnership with the

city seas partnership with small business, creating a 100 company selling day right here at city hall, in partnership with mayor lee and the board of supervisors, and it was just a wonderful opportunity for many of our smaller manufacturers who may be one or two-person shop, and who don't have the wherewithal to have their own dedicated retail store to show their products and it comes back to how do we help companies set more money into arthur businesses and develop more customers and their relationships, so that they can continue to grow and continue to stay here in san francisco. i'm amy kascel, and i'm the owner of amy kaschel san francisco. we started our line with wedding gowns, and about a year ago, we launched a ready

to wear collection. san francisco's a great place to do business in terms of clientele. we have wonderful brides from all walks of life and doing really interesting things: architects, doctors, lawyers, teachers, artists, other like minded entrepreneurs, so really fantastic women to work with. i think it's important for them to know where their clothes are made and how they're made. >> my name is jefferson mccarly, and i'm the general manager of the mission bicycle company. we sell bikes made here for people that ride here. essentially, we sell city bikes made for riding in urban environments. our core business really is to build bikes specifically for each individual. we care a lot about craftsmanship, we care a lot about quality, we care about good design, and people

like that. when people come in, we spend a lot of time going to the design wall, and we can talk about handle bars, we can see the riding position, and we take notes all over the wall. it's a pretty fun shopping experience. paragraph. >> for me as a designer, i love the control. i can see what's going on, talk to my cutter, my pattern maker, looking at the designs. going through the suing room, i'm looking at it, everyone on the team is kind of getting involved, is this what that drape look? is this what she's expecting, maybe if we've made a customization to a dress, which we can do because we're making everything here locally. over the last few years, we've

been more technical. it's a great place to be, but you know, you have to concentrate and focus on where things are going and what the right decisions are as a small business owner. >> sometimes it's appropriate to bring in an expert to offer suggestions and guidance in coaching and counseling, and other times, we just need to talk to each other. we need to talk to other manufacturers that are facing similar problems, other people that are in the trenches, just like us, so that i can share with them a solution that we came up with to manage our inventory, and they can share with me an idea that they had about how to overcome another problem. >> moving forward, where we see ourselves down the road, maybe five and ten years, is really looking at a business from a little bit more of a ready to wear perspective and making things that are really

thoughtful and mindful, mindful of the end user, how they're going to use it, whether it's the end piece or a he hwedding gown, are they going to use it again, and incorporating that into the end collection, and so that's the direction i hear at this point. >> the reason we are so enamored with the work we do is we really do see it as a platform for changing and making the city something that it has always been and making sure that we're sharing the opportunities that we've been blessed with economically and socially as possible, broadening that -

>> shop & dine in the 49 promotes local businesses and challenges resident to do their showing up and dining within the 49 square miles of san francisco by supporting local services within the neighborhood we help san francisco remain unique successful and vibrant so where will you shop & dine in the 49 san francisco owes must of the charm to the unique characterization of each corridor has a distinction permanent our neighbors are the economic engine of the city. >> if we could a afford the lot by these we'll not to have the kind of store in the future the kids will eat from some restaurants chinatown has phobia one of the

best the most unique neighborhood shopping areas of san francisco. >> chinatown is one of the oldest chinatown in the state we need to be able allergies the people and that's the reason chinatown is showing more of the people will the traditional thepg. >> north beach is i know one of the last little italian community. >> one of the last neighborhood that hadn't changed a whole lot and san francisco community so strong and the sense of partnership with businesses as well and i just love north beach

community old school italian comfort and love that is what italians are all about we need people to come here and shop here so we can keep this going not only us but, of course, everything else in the community i think local businesses the small ones and coffee shops are unique in their own way that is the characteristic of the neighborhood i peace officer prefer it is local character you have to support them. >> really notice the port this community we really need to kind of really shop locally and support the communityly live in it is more economic for people to survive here. >> i came down to treasure

island to look for a we've got a long ways to go. ring i just got married and didn't want something on line i've met artists and local business owners they need money to go out and shop this is important to short them i think you get better things. >> definitely supporting the local community always good is it interesting to find things i never knew existed or see that that way. >> i think that is really great that san francisco seize the vails of small business and creates the shop & dine in the 49 to support businesses make people all the residents and visitors realize had cool things are made and produced in sa volunteers. >> my name is mark a proud grand

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