and tell me, tell me more. i want to know how i am to regard your antics in this chamber, your attention to rules, procedure and the letter of the law when you turn around and fund at the rate of over $1 million a year citywide case management community focus, which has no respect for the law. and the blood of their crimes covers your hands. madam clerk. >> clerk: madam president. >> president breed: thank you. are there any other members of the public who would like to provide public comment at this time? seeing none, public comment is now closed. madam clerk, let's go to the item for adoption without reference to committee. >> clerk: items 37-43 are being considered for adoption, single roll call vote may enact these items or an item could be

severed and considered separately. >> president breed: supervisor fewer? > supervisor fewer: i would like to sever item 39, please. >> president breed: oh, i apologize, colleagues. before we go to the items for adoption without reference to committee, is my understanding that mr. lennon is ready and we have a number of people waiting so if you don't mind, i'm going to take items 32 and 34 first. and we will go from there. and i'm going to remove the names from the roster. mr. lennon? >> president breed, supervisors, michael lennon on behalf of public works. regarding back after discussion in the hallway both showed up and submitted written comments for assessments. with respect to s.e.r.p. after our conversations we have

removed seven properties from the list with 107 remaining. of those there was one settlement reached for payment plans and one paid in full and we removed another to address a billing discrepancy in the case of accelerated sidewalk abatement, we removed 24 with 26 remaining. there was one settlement reached whereby if repairs are made within the next 30 days we will waive assessment of inspection fees and move to properties to address quality control issues. i'm available to answer any questions if you have them. >> president breed: okay, colleagues. any discrepancies with item 32, specifically? no? okay, is there a motion to amend item number 32 to strike the lines, they aren't listed as lines.

block 4081, 4081 online 2 and 3, do we need to read that into the record, specifically mr. givener? >> deputy city attorney john givener, you don't need to if the document is available to the public. >> president breed: based on the document given to the board of supervisors and available to the public, is there a motion? moved by supervisor yee, seconded by supervisor peskin, without objection the amendments pass. and colleagues, on item number 32, as amended, can we take that same house, same call, without objection? the item as amended passes unanimously. on item number 34? supervisor safai?

>> supervisor safai: thank you, madam president. i don't know if you noticed but almost 99% of these are in my district, i know that happens on a rotating basis. a couple discrepancies or larger questions i have, one is the 12% admin fee for recording this lien. i reached out to the recorder, she is happy to work with us in the spirit of fees and fees in this city. as you heard the majority of people who came here today are folks on fixed income. this is very long time homeowners, let me just state 100% on the record i am all about safety and all about fixing these sidewalks but in this instance this was just brought to me in the last week or so. i believe i have solutions to mitigate some of the costs to the home owners, we have money allocated in the previous year to plant trees, almost 85% of the listings don't have a tree

in front of their house. we would request respectfully a 2-3 week continuance to work with b.s.m. and the treasurer's office to resolve some of these matters. i think i need to do a state specific. i will ask specifically what i want. i want to duplicate item 34, we will amend the duplicated resolution to only include district 11 addresses and we would continue the item as amended to may 23rd. >> president breed: i'm not sure that's possible. mr. givener? >> deputy city attorney, john givener. i think the idea is continue the district 11 properties so the board could act on those but approve the liens for all other properties. >> president breed: i understand that, but there's no need to duplicate the file, i believe, to do that. >> you would be adopting a

resolution today approving the lien for all non-district 11 properties so you would duplicate the file to have one to pass today approving the liens for all non district 11 properties and continue the duplicate to may 22nd. >> president breed: okay. and then also we would need to amend it. i will take, before you make that motion, supervisor safai, can we please first entertain a motion to strike the particular lines that are being proposed by the department of public works to amend that first? >> absolutely. >> president breed: is that a motion? seconded by supervisor ronen, colleagues could we take that without objection, the motion passes. and now duplicate the file. >> supervisor safai: yes. duplicate item 34, and amend the duplicated resolution to only include district 11 addresses and continue the item as amended to may 23rd.

>> president breed: okay. supervisor safai has made a motion to, well first of all he has duplicated the file and made a motion to amend the duplicated file and we will be, basically, that sounds more like dividing the file but i guess we are duplicating for the purposes of having two files, one which includes everything except district 11, the other only includes district 11 with the idea of moving non-district 11 items forward today and the others will be continued for how long? >> supervisor safai: may 23rd. >> president breed: is there a second? seconded by supervisor cohen. may 22nd? >> supervisor safai: sorry. >> president breed: supervisor kim? >> supervisor kim: i feel very uncomfortable with doing a district-specific request. if supervisor safai really needs the time, i would like to move all of them to continuance for two weeks, if that's okay

with the department. but i don't feel comfortable just taking out one district of addresses. >> supervisor safai: i'm fine with that. i talked to some of the other supervisors. but if they are okay with that, let's send the whole file, that's fine. >> president breed: mr. lennon, is there a problem with continuance. could you tell us what a delay could potentially mean? >> in discussion with the city attorney's office as well as the clerk's office earlier today, there did not appear to be an issue, our initial concerns were we would have to go through the reposting process to post all the properties to provide adequate notice of a future hearing but that does not appear to be necessary in this case. so with that being said, the department's amenable to continuance. >> president breed: okay. so do you withdraw your motion? >> supervisor safai: sure, if the other affected supervisor districts are fine, i'm fine with continuing the whole list. >> president breed: okay.

so supervisor safai has withdrawn his previous motion. we have amended the file. and so there is a motion to continue the file as amended without the duplication to the meeting of may 22nd, 2018, is there a second? seconded by supervisor ronen, colleagues could we take that without objection? without objection this will be continue today may 22nd 2018 as amended. >> supervisor safai: thank you. >> president breed: madam clerk, let's go to items for adoption without reference to committee. we have already called those items. supervisor fewer has asked for which item number to be removed? > supervisor fewer: 39, please. >> president breed: 39. supervisor stefani? this is to remove which item?

>> i was going to ask to send 39 to committee. >> president breed: okay. supervisor stefani requests to send an item to committee takes precedence over hearing that item today, so item 39 will go to committee. >> clerk: after we call it, madam president. >> president breed: thank you. supervisor tang? >> supervisor tang: item 42. >> president breed: supervisor cohen? >> supervisor cohen: i was going to ask to sever item 42 as well. >> president breed: on the remaining items, can we take those same house, same call? without objection the remaining items pass unanimously. please call item number 39. >> clerk: item 39 is a resolution to urge the arbitration board to adopt and incorporate city proposal number 22 requiring the san francisco police officers association to request to me

within 14 days of changes involving united states department of justice recommendations, waive findings if no agreement is reached into a new memorandum of understanding between city and san francisco police officer association. >> president breed: supervisor stefani? supervisor fewer? anybody want to talk about item 39? >> yes, i do. thank you, president breed. the reason i'm urging the resolution today, it's time-sensitive. the city and county of san francisco is undergoing negotiations right now as we speak and i'm happy to speak on this item, if allowed. i have some remarks prepared. may i do that, president breed. >> president breed: yes.

>> supervisor yee: this is item 39. urging the arbitration board to incorporate one of the city's proposals into the memorandum of understanding between the city and county of san francisco and the san francisco police officer's association which is now in arbitration. thank you to my colleagues, cohen, lee for sponsorship on this. i understand the arbitration board may come to a resolution in the next day or two, which is why this is coming to a vote today on the without reference committee calendar. i want to be clear. this is an urging resolution, not a binding one. and i wouldn't ask the board to support something that our own human resources department isn't putting forward themselves. this resolution is supporting hard work. it's not motivated by anti law enforcement sentiment.

my husband is a 35-year veteran of the police department. my husband is a five-time recipient, medal of valour, he has risked his life many, many times on the job and two of my brother-in-laws are still active police officers. i know intimately that policing is hard work. i want them to have a good contract is too, i know how important it is to the police officers and their families, this resolution is ensuring the implementation of police reform that's this city unequivocally supports and this board unanimously supported the allegations this anti-labor is just ridiculous. i haven't heard concerns about this from anyone in the labor community outside of the p.o.a. in fact today we heard public testimony from the san francisco labor council,

expressing support for proposal 22 is pro-police reform, expressing support put forth by our own department of human resources, expresses support for 22, this proposal includes language that suggests changes involving any of the recommendations from the 2016 department of justice report shall be noticed to the san francisco police officer association and association 14 calendar days to respond rather than 30-day period in addition if no agreement is reached this proposal would waive fact finding and impact procedures. today's resolution is expressing support for this city's proposal and ask the arbitration board to incorporate to the extent possible and i want to repeat that. this resolution is expressing support for this city proposal and asks the arbitration board

to incorporate to the extent possible city proposal number 22 into the new m.o.u. between the city and san francisco police officer association, colleagues if we can't get behind this proposal to support efforts to remove obstacles to true implementation of the department of justice police reforms, these are proposals that our own human resources department has brought forward, we may never make the changes necessary for the kind of police department that our city needs and deserves. i ask humbly for your support. >> president breed: thank you, supervisor fewer. supervisor ronen? >> supervisor ronen: colleagues, i'm also speaking in favor of this resolution and asking for a vote today on the resolution.

the department of justice came in and gave the city 272 recommendations about how our force is failing to provide the type of security for our residents with all the projections at the same time. this is very serious. 272 recommendations. and what we have seen in several instances specifically on one of the most important policies, our use of force policy is that the p.o.a. has used the collective bargaining process to stop the implementation of those reforms. these are reforms by the way that our own police chief wants to implement because he believes that this is right for his department and this is right for the safety not only of all of our community members but for his own police force.

now our department of human resources listening to feedback from us has put forward this proposal to bargain around and i think it's absolutely appropriate for this body to weigh in and give our opinion about whether or not it's the right policy moving forward. this is not theoretical.

to review our department and make recommendations how we could have 21st century policing in san francisco. and you know, it is entirely, all we are asking for with this resolution is that bargaining doesn't happen behind closed doors that impacts the safety of residents in our neighborhoods. which is completely reasonable. we are saying yes over working conditions that are valid working conditions that police officers should meet and confer but there should not be closed door sessions where the public doesn't get a chance to weigh in over policies affecting our entire department and themselves. this is completely reasonable and i would ask my colleagues to please vote on this measure

today so we could get timely feedback, not only to our department of human resources but to our police chief and the arbitrator. thank you. >> president breed: thank you. supervisor safai? >> supervisor safai: i think there's a lot of valid points made here today. i think this is a worthy conversation. i don't think we will come to a unanimous decision today i would like to make a motion to send this to dmit e. committee. >> president breed: you don't have to make a motion, you could send to committee. >> supervisor safai: i would like to send it to committee. >> president breed: okay, so this item will go to committee. madam clerk, let's go to item number 42. >> clerk: item 42 is a resolution to declare support for california state senate bill 1024 the animal welfare and violence prevention act of 2018 authored by senator scott

wilk mandating defendants convicted of specified animal cruelty offenses to undergo mental health evaluation, humane education courses and if deemed necessary by the mental health professional to undergo mandatory counseling. >> president breed: supervisor tang? >> supervisor tang: thank you, today i will ask to continue this item for a week, given i think there will about be some amendments made at the state level addressing concerns from the a.c.l. -- a.c.l.u. >> president breed: supervisor tang has made a motion to continue until may 8th, 2018, seconded by supervisor cohen. >> supervisor cohen: thank you. i'm glad that the sponsor of the legislation is continuing it, still reeling off the mistake made on item 39. so i would like to request that we honor this commitment to

continue for a week because i'm concerned about the broad language in senate bill 1024. i don't know if you had a chance to read it but particularly the ability to terminate probation for people unable to attend the mandated mental health program is concerning and i feel contradicts file 180132 that president breed and myself, ordinance amending administrative code abolishing fines and fees, restitution costs, blah, blah, blah. senate bill 1024 would add excessive fees which includes $2,000 fine mandatory fines and fees will add up and keep citizens in the cycle of debt. they send an opposition letter to senator wilk raising these

concerns and also raising concerns about due process. i'm grateful we are going to continue it, we have an opportunity to chew on it a little more, i've connected with senator wilkes office and learned the amendments made, the updates are not yet in print. so i would like to take time to consider the new language and thank you. which is the reasons i'm supporting this one week continuance. >> president breed: colleagues, it was moved to continue the meeting of may 8th, 2018 and seconded. could we take that without objection? without objection this item will be continued to the meeting of may 8th, 2018. madam clerk, please read the in memoriam. >> clerk: today's meeting will be adjourned for late jerry leonard bar and on behalf of supervisor ronen late brian quinn. >> president breed: okay, colleagues.

this brings us to the end of our agenda. madam clerk, is there any further business before us today? >> clerk: that concludes our business for today. >> president breed: all right, we are adjourned. thank you, everyone. francisco. >> my name is fwlend hope i would say on at large-scale what all passionate about is peace in the world.

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homeless women escaping prostitution if the months period before i performed memorial services store produced women that were murdered on the streets of san francisco so i went back to the board and said we say to do something the number one be a safe place for them to live while he worked on changing 4 months later we were given the building in january of 1998 we opened it as a safe house for women escaping prostitution i've seen those counselors women find their strength and their beauty and their wisdom and come to be able to affirmative as the daughters of god and they accepted me and made me, be a part of the their lives. >> special things to the women

that offered me a chance safe house will forever be a part of the who i've become and you made that possible life didn't get any better than that. >> who've would know this look of this girl grown up in atlanta will be working with produced women in san francisco part of the system that has abused and expedited and obtain identified and degraded women for century around the world and still do at the embody the spirits of women that just know they deserve respect and intend to get it. >> i don't want to just so women younger women become a part of the the current system we need to change the system

we don't need to go up the ladder we need to change the corporations we need more women like that and they're out there. >> we get have to get to help them. >>

>> ladies and gentlemen, the chair has called the meeting tord to order. can you please rise for the pledge of allegiance. [ pledge of allegiance ]

>> president turman, i'd like to call roll. >> president turman: please do. [ roll call. ] >> clerk: commissioner turman, you have a quorum. also present with us today is the chief of police, william scott, and for the department of police accountability, miss sandra marian. >> president turman: okay. members of the public, welcome to the may 2nd, 2018 regular meeting of the san francisco police commission. this evening, we have a long closed session calendar, so -- which is likely going to be very time-consuming, so due to the complexity and the length of closed session, public comment is going to be limited to two minutes. and with that, i'm going to

turn it back over to secretary kilshaw for the first item. >> yes. thank you, secretary kilshaw, i'm going to interrupt the president of the commission tonight because this is a very special night, and it is a very hard night for some of us. tonight is president turman's last night on the commission, and he may not know this but tonight is a very special night for him. i have with me a proclamation from the mayor of san francisco, and julius, he may not know it, but today is julius turman day in san francisco. [applause]. >> president turman: it would have been nice to know that at the beginning. >> well, you know, plenty of time left in the day. i'm going to read the proclamation. it's actually very appropriate. whereas the city and county of

san francisco traditionally recognizes individuals who have made significant and remarkable contributions to the vitality of our city, and the dedicated and vital work of l. julius turman sincere rerepresenting the city of san francisco at its best. he has served the city and county of san francisco in various capacities, joining the police commission in 2011, stepping into the vice president, and then serving as the president of the body over a year. president turman might run commission meeting with a pragmatism of suffers no fools demeanor, he has been witness to comments delivered as jives, poems, raps and beats, whereasture mass was instrumental in overseeing the police reform efforts,

successfully revising several key policies, including use of force, body worn cameras, written communications and complaints against officers, ensuring the department operates the highest national standard, and whereas recruitment is often an arduous process, turman exercised his acute judgment of character, supporting chief william scott after a tremendously long and collaborative journey that included public input as well as filing key positions at the dpa and the commission office. whereas according to the sometimes ungodly hours of the julius turman e-mail which we've all received, he doesn't sleep, ladies and gentlemen. he's been known to land in your box that seems to need no more than 45 minutes of sleep a night, which means that the remaining 23 hours and 15 minutes are split between his

time at his firm and helping the sfpd reaches the highest pinnacle, making sure every person knows in the department how important his or her service is, and everybody feels safe and able to live their best san francisco life. therefore be it known that i mark e farrell do here by proclaim may 4, 2018 to be l. julius turman day in san francisco. [applause]. >> and we're not done yet. we have some special guests here, too. so on behalf of the san francisco police commission, i'm not going to read this certificate of appreciation. this is to you, julius, for your hard work, and for everything you've done as a commissioner, and you know, i give this to you with great pride.

you know, our friendship. i see former president susie loftus is here today. you know, in my career, i have served with some notable and incredibly successful people. on this commission, president loftus, president sparks. i've served in the department of justice with judge ryan, robert mueller. i served in the d.a.'s office with kamala harris, and you're there in my life as people who have defined who we are and who the city is. i have to tell you from the day i first met you, i found you to be honest. the first day you meet someone, you go he's okay, or no he's a blankety-blank. you know, in a city that believes in a lot of identity politics, you are a michigan

wolfe wolferine, a former u.s. assistant attorney out of michigan, a managing partner of a law firm. you are a family man, your whole family comes out to celebrate with you. you're a great person, and a great police commissioner. you're really going to be missed. you're a great commissioner, and on behalf of the commission, i'm going to miss you, buddy. i think former commission president loftus has a few words she'd like to add. >> commissioners, good evening. i don't think this is the public comment section of the agenda, otherwise this would have been my first time to make public comment to the police commission. >> two minutes and you're out of here. >> your time is up. i wanted to give you that opportunity, president turman. it's so wonderful to see everybody, hello. president turman, i'm here for you. i haven't been back since i

left the commission a year and a half ago, but i couldn't miss a chance to come back and honor what you've given to this city. i think it was former chief greg sur who used to remind us sometimes, you know, julius is a really fancy lawyer, and he would ask how much you actually get paid every hour. i think it's high up there. as a government lawyer, please don't tell me. i don't want to know. but over the seven-plus years you've been on this commission, the hours that you have spent in discipline hearings, in time when we've been in closed session struggling with some of the biggest issues this police department has faced, you have been dedicated every single moment so what is best for this city, what is best for this department, and you have shined in your integrity, president turman. you make the decisions for the right reason, you care deeply about this city, and you have given a tremendous amount. it was an honor to serve with you, and thank you for the kindness and the partnership you showed me and you've shown

all of your colleagues over the years because you've made things better, and the city is very grateful. thank you. [applause]. >> president turman: are we done now? >> i think we're done now. president turman wants to get back to the agenda, and i'll -- >> president turman: i was just going to say thank you to everyone, and i will come back during commission comments and make my comments, so thank you so much. thanks so much. >> should we tell him now? we were going to save this, but you're invited to come back to every police commission and talk in public comment moving forward. >> president turman: thank you so much, but you know, be careful what you ask for. all right. madam secretary, we'll start with the first line item.

>> line item one. [agenda item read]. >> president turman: commissioners, in your packet are the meeting minutes from those dates, march 14, april 4, april 11, and april 18, 2018. hopefully, you had a chance to peruse them. if you have any comments or revisions to them, please let us know. if there are none, then i will entertain the appropriate motion. >> move to accept. >> second. >> president turman: all in favor? any opposed? thank you. those minutes are adopted. next item, secretary kilshaw. [agenda item read].

>> president turman: okay. chief, did you want to say anything further? >> nothing -- nothing further. >> president turman: okay. all right. so as i understand it, la casa de la madres is receiving this from dignity health, and they've sent us $10,000 connected with participation in the bayview domestic violence high risk program. i'll entertain the appropriate motion. >> move to accept. >> second. >> all in favor cler. >> clerk: can we have public comment on that, commissioner? >> president turman: i'm sorry. public comment on that, item 2.

seeing none, public comment is now closed. with public comment now closed, i will reopen the floor for the appropriate motion. >> i think you just call the question. >> president turman: okay. call the question. all in favor? any opposed. okay. that is now approved. secretary kilshaw. [agenda item read]. >> president turman: good evening, chief scott. >> good evening, commission, commissioner turman. i'll start out with crime trends for this week and start off with violent crime. homicides are down 28% from this time last year. we had 13 homicides as of the last reporting period.

our shootings -- shooting victims, i'm sorry, are down 17% with a total of 39 year to date. homicides with firearms, we've only had six for the year, which is 54% below where we are last year, and our toting gun violence is down 25%. our total violent crimes, that includes all the part one violent crimes, we're down 36%, and part two violent crimes, we're down 14.55%. auto blaerz are down 25%, which is equivalent to 2,000 less auto burglaries than last year, and all the strategies that we've put in place will continue, and hopefully, we can continue to push that down in the right direction. in terms of special events, items of interest, the department continues to provide opportunities throughout the city as part of our youth

engagement efforts. our youth wilderness hikes is one of those things. this happened this past week, and that was at our lady of visitacion. students went to angel island, and st. john's students went to mou mount -- i'm having trouble pronouncing this. tamalpais. one event to report this week, our peace parks is a continuing effort. i spoke about this in a prior meeting. it's a collaboration with rec and parks and the san francisco police department to give programming in some of the parks around the city in concentrated in various rec centers, so it's really gotten off to a good start. we believe this is part of the

solution to address some of our violent crime, giving young people activities and programs in the parks, so that will continue. the next peace park event for this week is tomorrow -- actually, tomorrow through sunday from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at hearst park in the ingleside district. and cinco de m 5 yo events occur this sunday at 10:00 a.m. it's an annual street events celebration. we don't -- we anticipate we'll be adequately staffed for that event. and that concludes the report for this week. >> president turman: thank you. chief. any questions for the chief? hearing no questions, thank you, chief. let's go directly to the report

by dpa director henderson. [agenda item read]. >> certainly. we are currently at 258 pending cases. last year this time, we were at 407 cases. i'll continue to -- every week to that similar update when we meet. we are still at 34 cases that are past the 270-day point. as a reminder, the majority of those cases are cases that are being tolled from other civil or criminal pending charges. we are continuing to fill folks in the management positions so we can continue to process the contract that we had from the department of technology to take over our department and bring the department current, both with software and with hardware. our -- the majority of the investigation unit right now is at a training, one of the

things that folks had asked me to do was to provide more training for our investigators, so i've sent the majority of the investigative team to aele training, which is use of force training, so they're in vegas right now, but i'm sure they're watching us on sfgov tv. this week, one of our lawyers who are here in the audience with us today, samra marian, spoke on dr. maeshrshall regarding violence -- biased policing. those are my updates for this week. >> president turman: thank you, commissioner henderson. sorry -- director henderson. any comments, questions for director henderson?

no? okay. hearing none, let's move to the next item, please. [agenda item read]. >> president turman: well, as commissioner mazzucco has said, today is my last day with the police commission, and this is -- the kind of work we do here, i guess you can never say, my work is done because there is plenty to always do. but it's been seven years. i'm proud to have had the opportunity to serve with such talented, intelligent commissioners. out of all those list of priorities -- high ranking officials that commissioner

mazzucco named in his remarks, i want to tell you that susie loftus, who was my friend and in whose foot steps i followed was probably the most instrument in helping me learn how to do this job. and this has been good work. i'm proud of the san francisco police department. i'm proud of its leadership and its chief. i'm proud of the department of police accountability. every day, they strive to make transparency and public interface, and the work we do even more accessible to the city and county of san francisco. and the people you don't see behind -- the behind-the-scenes people, you don't see what they do every day, the people who

serve on our commission staff, the people who advise us from the city attorney's office, and others who work hard to make sure we live up to the mandates of the charter of the city of san francisco. they deserve our highest respect and thank you. and thank you to the citizens of san francisco who have constantly given me reminders in many, many forms of what they believe san francisco should be, and i hope to some measure i have lived up to that in the last seven years. thank you for the time, the attention, and the ability to serve. thank you. commissioners, and i'll say -- commissioner dejesus, i'm sorry. >> commissioner dejesus: so i also want to say thank you to commissioner turman. you've been refreshing, you've

been plain speaking, you've been pretty blunt with us. it was refreshing to have that bluntness, but you also had understanding of complex and difficult issues that we faced. you know, you and commissioner loftus led us through some pretty trying times in the community and some trying community meetings, but i think most of that was successful, and we have come away with a body of policy for this department that really moved us into the 21st century, and we have to continue that march into the 21st century and best practices, and hopefully by doing this, we're going to be changing the culture of the department. so i want to thank you for your dedication and long hours. as you said, people have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, so thank you so much. >> president turman: thank you. commissioner hirsch? >> commissioner hirsch: i also want to thank you. i've only been on the commission for a year, but you've been the president for that year. and i've learned a lot from you, actually, in the year.

ands and as i told you, your bedside manner can be rough, but your heart and your mind is admirable, and i appreciate your leadership. >> president turman: okay. next line item, secretary kilshaw. [agenda item read]. >> president turman: anything anyone needs to schedule? >> no. >> not for me. >> commissioner? >> president turman: go ahead. >> i was just going to mention for the members of the public, the commission will be dark next weekend. we do not have a quorum. >> president turman: and please check your website because we're not quite sure how long we will be dark. so there are some commission appointments that need to be

filled to bring the quorum levels back up to speed, so please make sure you're checking our website. >> we should be clear with the public. it's not that the commissioners here are not willing to attend. we are willing to attend, but we will not have a quorum with commissioner turman leaving -- the president turman leaving. we have two commissioners pending reappointment, and we have two -- we have two openings, so we don't have a quorum. as soon as the board of supervisors moves on that, then hopefully, we can recon convenient oreconvene our meetings. >> president turman: all right. public comment on-line items 3-a through d. any public comment? 3-a through 3-d? hearing none, public comment is now closed. [ gavel ]. >> president turman: secretary kilshaw, public comment.

[agenda item read]. >> clerk: please limit your comments to two minutes. >> president turman: any general public comment? >> hello. hi, everyone. good evening or good -- you know, i just wanted to say i'm sorry that you're leaving also, and i know we had a few brushes

together, but thank you for being here. and i also want to say i want here last week, and i know last time you were on the board, you said you were going to have a letter written for dpw. you weren't here, so the vice president said he would sign it. but i guess they had to wait until you got back. >> president turman: i signed the letter today. >> okay. thank you. and the other thing is can i use the overhead, as i come every time to talk about my son who was murdered august 14, 2006, we still have no -- no closure, no one's come forth. i bring the names all the time of the people who murdered my

son. thom thomas hannibal, marcus carter. we're still looking for closure, and i always talk about our posters being out there, say where was you when i was murdered? we still need to see you for our children to be out there, so the perpetrators can see their victim. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. >> president turman: thank you. any further public comment? all right. hearing none, public comment is now closed. next line item, secretary kilshaw. [agenda item read]. >> president turman: all

right. so ladies and gentlemen, members of the public, what we're about to do is we are going to consider our closed session agenda which has some personnel matters on it. now, what we're doing now is we're about to vote as to whether or not to go into closed session. we're giving you the chance to give us public comment on that-dwthat that -- the vote as well as whether or not we should go into closed session. so with that, public comment is now open on that. any public comment? all right. hearing none, public comment is now closed on item six. [ gavel ] [agenda it [agenda item read]. >> so moved. >> second. >> president turman: okay. all in favor? any opposed?

all right. ladies and gentlemen, we thank you for attending the first half of the open session. we are now about to go into public -- or closed session. we'll return after we finish the closed session calendar. thank you.