the floor plan as designed has a lot of extras which i believe for a comfortably sized house are really not completely necessary. the second point planning makes is that the vertical addition should only extend to the extending rear wall structure as a maximum. and i agree with that, and there's an ask for decreasing the vertical addition in floor height from ten to 9 feet. 9 feet is still a very comfortable height. the majority that we see are eight, 8.5, so we are still within very comfortable size room heights. the comment i would like to make in addition to what rdt's says, the adu as proposed is not an adu because it is fully accessible from the main house which does not make it a singly

identifiable unit, and that under adu definitions meet the requirements. you can come from the main floor into the unit, and it becomes just an expanded space for a single-family house, so we cannot use that as an argument for giving this very large addition extra benefits of having added second units. that has not occurred within the rules that we normally have to apply. those are my comments. if the project would be modified as proposed by rdt, and there would be proper attention paid to the adu being fully independently accessible from the main circulation of the home, this project would be approved but it needs some additional work. >> president hillis: okay. can i just ask staff, can you put up a-102. it's always hard when we have a staff initiated d.r., and it's

hard to view when we can't see the modifications that you're proposing. can you just -- i mean, i get commissioner moore's comments was on that entry, but can you just walk us through the proposed changes, how they would impact that -- the floor plans there. >> sure. so with respect to the limitation to the depth of the horizontal addition, i'll just draw a dash line of the estimate. so for the first -- for the bottom two floors, it would be about 15 feet back, and the five-foot set back, so one

moment. so for the bottom floor, it will impact what's currently proposed as a living room and we're looking forwardly along both property lines. we only have one side set back currently. and then, for the second floor -- >> president hillis: just go back to the first floor. >> sure. >> president hillis: so how would that -- it seems it would be under where you drew it, difficult to get a one bedroom adu in there. >> so it would have to be reprogrammed. i don't have the specifics on the square footage and what the actual program will be. we would work with a staff -- architect accordingly to make sure we can accommodate the one or two bedrooms, whatever it may be. >> president hillis: just go to the second floor for a minute, and then, we can...so

that -- so this floor is fine. i think you can get that bedroom in. i think you can kind of modify the bathroom size. you've got the side set back is already there on the first floor -- or on the second floor? >> yes. >> president hillis: or it's a deck. all right. and then on the next floor, you eliminate the horizontal and vertical addition altogether. yeah. the only concern i have is the first floor, making -- i like the idea of an adu and just continuing to make that a livable one-bedroom unit. 'cause it's a ten -- i mean, it's a 25-foot lot. 5 foot set backs on either side would get you to a ten-foot wide -- i mean, 15-foot -- yeah. but why the recommendation on this first floor for reduced -- >> so our standard department

comment for when we have adjacent buildings with a similar layout is to, similar to commissioner moore stated, allow a pop out of sorts, but rather than the traditional 12 foot deep pop out, we're recommending a 10 foot deep pop out, so each side, 5 foot each. so that is a standard comment, and we've apply ied it to this property and each side, as well. >> president hillis: okay. commissioner moore? >> commissioner moore: i think when you look to see what's here, you really start to resequence what is proposed. there is a living room, there is a large number of bathrooms. there are quite a few nooks and

crannies in there. you can get everything you want in there, just basically rearranging the pieces and coming up with something which is quite workable. i've looked at it for quite a while. we're not here to design it, but i think the department has a very good understanding what pop outs should and shouldn't be in order not to impact other properties. the real issue on the extent of this particular proposal as it is given to us, the incredible issues of privacy with adjoining people, including, basically, creating a stepped section, which really megamansions, the block, which is inappropriate to the setting. >> delvin washington, southwest team leader. i just wanted to reiterate what staff said. the commission may want to consider, too, that we in this case are entertaining an

accessory dwelling unit, that we do want to be livable, as well. there are a lot of options on the upper floors for the project sponsor to tweak and adjust this so that they can comply with our suggestion -- our recommendations and still provide them adequate habitable living space. perhaps the commission -- again, as the commission, you do have the ability to use your discretion. we take a strict approach to this as staff, as we should. you are the commission, so thank you. >> president hillis: you know, and i get that. i just want to make sure there's livable -- the plans are a little bit confusing. as you walk in the ground floor, there's storage and irk iirk -- circulation. there's a bathroom and i think what goes with the upper floors, washer and dryer. i think there's a way to make it livable. there's a lot going on in the

first floor entry. given the amount of excess uses on the floor, it probably can be done with the staff's recommendation. commissioner moore? >> commissioner moore: i actually appreciate and i want to reiterate what mr. washington said. this is about looking at projects of this kind with an equitiable eye, and not just nipping and tucking. this is an rh-1, this is a standard lot, and i appreciate the department's neutral eye in terms of what is too much and how it works. so i think we should move to -- what are we supposed to do? take d.r. -- >> president hillis: take d.r. >> commissioner moore: take d.r. and modify the plan as perstaff's recommendation and miss flores and have the staff continue to work with the

applicant so we get this right, including on you the adu is properly accessible from the outside and independent from the living space. >> president hillis: that's the motion. is there a second? >> commissioner moore: yes. that's a motion. >> second. >> clerk: thank you. commissioners. there's a motion to take d.r. with the proposed modifications. on that motion -- [roll call] >> commissioner moore: would you please also read into the record that the adu has to be modified that is in addition to the staff's recommendation. >> clerk: and that the adu be modified to meet staff's -- >> commissioner moore: meet standard requirements. staff did not catch that, the adu's. >> president hillis: yeah. it's to make it independently accessible. >> commissioner moore: yes. >> president hillis: make that adu independently accessible. >> clerk: very good. on that motion, then, commissioners, to take d.r. and approve this matter with staff recommendations as well as making the adu independently

accessible -- [roll call] >> clerk: so moved, commissioners. that motion passes unanimously, 4-0. commissioners, that'll place us on item 19. neared. >> clerk: commissioners, please be advised that we did receive a request for continuance from the -- or one of the d.r. requesters who first requested a continuance based on the number of commissioners, that there were only four, and then later that he was traveling, already in florida or on his way to florida. it was not entirely clear. so i don't know if you want to take up the matter of continuance or just hear the item. >> president hillis: is he here? are you here? all right. so you're here. so let's take the item and see where we go with the item. >> good afternoon, commissioners.

marselle boudreaux for department staff. the project includes remodelling of an existing two story single-family dwelling with a vertical addition of a third story and a new garage at the street level. the project also includes renovation of the front facade and other interior renovations. the project is located within the rh-2 district. the concerns of the d.r. applications are outlined as follows. under the first d.r., there's too much intrusion into the midblock opening space relative to neighboring properties. a new driveway and curb cut would be dangerous to pedestrians and propose a relocation of the garage to the downhill side? and lastly, under that first d.r., a top floor should be required to lineup with the rear of the adjacent property, the uphill neighbor with a 5 foot set back to protect light and air? second d.r. filed, first point,

the facade is too modern and not in keeping with the neighborhood character? second point, the total building height is too tall and doesn't appropriately step down the hill. the residential design advisory team reviewed the project following a submittal of request for discretionary review and found the project does not demonstrate exceptional or extraordinary circumstances and therefore -- and meets the standards for the residential design guidelines. the department has received from the project sponsor nine form letters signed by neighbors within the vicinity of the project who are in support of the project. the department received a two-page letter from a neighbor who resides at 769 tajaro street supporting the two d.r. requesters stating his concerns that the project presents the issue of noncompliance with the residential design guidelines and it's the legal basis for his concerns. with all of that information, the department finds the project to be compatible with the surrounding neighborhood and recommends you do not take d.r. and approve the project with the modification that the arkt tekt ral drawing confirm

the elevation change for the driveway and the property which will be reconciled on-site. the project sponsor has provided this additional information. this concludes staff presentation. i'm happy to answer any questions. >> president hillis: all right. so we'll take -- are both d.r. requesters here? [inaudible] >> president hillis: all right. so we'll see if they arrive, but go ahead. >> my name is michael montgomery. i along with my wife and two children reside in the neighboring property. over the past few months i've attempted to work with my neighbor to address the concerns of my family and neighbors. my neighbor was refused to make even a single change to their plans to accommodate to our concerns. i have tried to be flexible in

my approach. i've been very clear and consistent with my concerns which are threefold. first the project will eliminate light and irrelevant a, access to grandfather windows on three sides of my project. third, the curb cut provides danger for pedestrians, and the project design materials are incompatible with building materials in the neighborhood. i will now walking through our proposal. can we get the frengs presentation. first, for the grandfather property line windows, you can see the four grandfather property line windows. these provide the only light and access to my children's bathroom. the project as proposed would require saling all of these windows, there by significantly

affecting the light and air that comes in my windows. the project could easily be modified to minimize the impact of light and air if the second floor plan is redesigned modestly. as you can see from page a-202 of the plans, this is a two story ceiling that can be used to accommodate light or access to a windows via set back or light we wills, again without a reduction in habitable space. second point with regard to the garage, as you can see from page a-301 of the proposed project plans, it will create an unacceptable change in sidewalk grade along the common property line that makes a steep sidewalk even steeper. the project sponsor has refused to discuss this with the bureau of street use and mapping until after the project is approved by the commission. this is a particular concern to me because my wife and i have

elderly parents who visit frequently, as well as a daughter who's two. we use that garage door of our property as our primary entry and exit. the main reason for the steep drop off is due to the decision to place the garage on the steepest part of the sidewalk in front of the project sponsored property. as you can see from page a-120, the project plans, this is noticeably steeper than the downhill side. given the narrow sidewalk on our street, there's only 10 feet between the street and the house frontage, we don't have the space to create a safety wall or railing or anything like that that would create additional safety, so i am proposing the project sponsor relocate the garage to the left side of the property. finally related to the project facade, perpage a-301 of the

proposed plans -- [inaudible] >> -- happy to walk you through houses on our block face. although there are multiple styles, nonof them resemble the vertical bans proposed by the project sponsor. [inaudible] >> in summary, i'm requesting that the commission approve the following conditions --

[inaudible] >> thank you. >> president hillis: all right. thank you very much. you have 23 seconds, if you need them, but you don't have to take them. >> i don't need them. thank you. >> president hillis: all right. so the other d.r. requester is not here, so we'll take public comment in -- in opposition of the project, in support. d.r. christopher cole? >> good afternoon, commissioners. first, i join in the comment about the driveway. it is a steep area, and my understanding is that the bureau of street use and mapping does have certain requirements, and i really think that that's something that should be available to the commission and to the -- to the neighborhood, to know whether the driveway can be constructed in such a way that it's safe. it's a -- a steep hill going north, and then, it's also a

steep hill going east. so that is a concern that i have as somebody who walks down that street at least five days a week, just safety there. but i really want to -- twante the balance of my comments to be about the design guidelines because i really do feel those have not been given the weight that they -- they deserve. i attached a copy of the williams case, and i'm sure all of you have probably seen 50 times, the williams case. it says that the residential design guidelines have the force of law. they are as -- as important and must be taken into account as much as the zoning or building codes. and this just has not been done. the short shrift that this has been given, that we took it into account, and we found that there were no exceptional circumstances. well, there are exceptional

circumstances. i was part of getting these residential design guidelines together before they were voted on. so it -- it's sort of a personal -- personal thing with me, as well, that light and air are not something that should be ignored or given short shrift. here we have an example where these side windows can be given light and air by giving a 5 foot proposed set back on the side that it matches the d.r. requesters. the d.r. requester put up a picture of showing how much unused space there is in the project. some of that space can be reconfigured to allow a five-foot set back next to these side windows and allow

the 745 property to have light and air. that was one of the whole purposes of the residential design guidelines, is that something that's not required by zoning, something that's not required by the building codes is required by the residential design guidelines, it was an effort to have some good neighbor policies given the force of law, and they do have the force of law. those are my two points, and i would ask that the commission take discretionary review and assure that those two points are taken care of. thank you. >> president hillis: all right. thank you. any additional public comment in support of the d.r.? seeing none, project sponsor, welcome. jonas, normally, they would have ten minutes, 'cause there's two d.r.'s. >> clerk: they would, but the secondary d.r. requester didn't speak. [inaudible] >> president hillis: can you do it in five or -- i know you

prepared ten. [inaudible] >> president hillis: all right. so let's go seven. >> thank you. hello. my name is jamie austin. i am the owner of 739 tejaro street, along with my husband. we purchased our home in 2010 and lived there with our two children, ages four and seven, we are deeply involved with the local potrero hill community. from our house, i walk our son to a local school, and then i work at the california college of the arts at the bottom of the hill. >> president hillis: you just may want to shift that up. >> we want to live in san francisco for the long haum, but we really face the need to right size our home for the future. question chose ann fougeron --

[inaudible] >> -- meets all san francisco codes and residential design guidelines, involves nothing exceptional and extraordinary, and has explicit support from nine immediate neighbors. we've spent a lot of time with the d.r. requester at 745 tejaro trying to find a solution. we've met with them over ten times. we just don't understand why they keep claiming we did not do anything for them. we did all this without being asked by the planning. our voluntarily concessions include 5 foot set back on the top floor at the 645 property line to help preserve light, air and views. we've limited our ground floor extension to 6 feet versus the allowed 12 feet. we've limited the building to

two stories. we are 18.5 feet below the allowed height. the total increase in our home is only 7'9", and there is more than allowed by code, and we have a simple facade that blends with neighborhood set back. this is a picture of our block with our house highlighted in blue in the center, and locations of neighbors who have signed letters of proper highlighted in green. the two d.r. requesters are in yellow, both uphill for us. the vast majority of the neighborhood supports our project including three adjacent neighbors, and our neighbor directly across the street. this is a similar overhead view of our block. our building envelope is highlighted in green, adjacent property building envelopes are in blue, and the rest of the block face is in gray. as you can see, our proposed rear extension is very modest.

most of our neighbors intrude much further into their back yards, and we have voluntarily limited this extension. our rear extension is also voluntarily set back on all levels? first, let me explain this drawing a little bit? the shaded red area represents what we are allowed to build on each floor according to the code and design guidelines? the gray shaded area is what we propose to build? and here, you can clearly see the concessions that we've made on every level of the house. at the basement level, only a section of our house is extending to 6 feet versus the 12 feet allowed? our two downhill neighbors go to full depth. on the first floor, we are only adding a small kind of window angle? and on the second floor, we have added a 5 foot voluntary set back from the d.r. requesters property line angling back, and again, no one told us we had to do this. we chose to do this for the benefit of the neighbors.

the top floor, we know is sensitive, given the d.r. requesters nonconforming property line windows. here's a drawing showing the rear elevation of the d.r. requesters home. i'd like to highlight a few things. as well know there's nothing extraordinary or exceptional about closing or covering up property line windows. for example right behind us, our rear neighbor, they covered up property line windows of their uphill neighbors just this year, and that's a five story project, much large he were than ours. our downhill neighbor also covered up our property line windows when they remodelled, and it is clear that the d.r. requester will have ample, even enviable access to light and air including two full height sliding glass doors opening onto a main deck, a picture window that will remain, and we have noted throughout our planning process the windows that were meant to be covered up. now let's have a look at what

this will look like from inside of the property? this is a picture that the previous owners took while marketing the property? it's publicly accessible from a local realtor website, and it shows the interior of the room where the property windows will be covered but all of the windows and doors highlighted in red will remain uncovered. specifically there will be a large picture window and two, yes two separate sliding glass doors that open out onto a deck and this alone offers ample access to light, air, and view. this all adds up to light and air access that is comparable if not better than most properties on the block and indeed enviable compared to san francisco in general. here's another view of the same room. okay. the nonopening windows were outlined in black, and those were the ones that will be covered up, but as you can see, right next to them were other windows offering light and air.

we just don't understand why the d.r. requesters are so worried about driveways and curb cut, honestly, they're the norm in our neighborhood, and they're often adjacent to neighbors just as we proposed. we live on a steep home, walking to and from the car with our children is exhausting. we're proposing a one car garage that impacted only one parking place. seven other places on the block have javt or double wide proje -- adjacent or double wyatt cuts. adjacent driveways and curb cuts are common even on steeper streets than ours. here, as 20th street just around the corner from us, they're on a 24% grade, and you can see they have four adjacent driveway and curb cuts, and the pedestrians, including us are just fine on that street.

for voidance of all doubt, we've submitted detailed descriptions of the new driveway and curb cut to show very modest elevation changes and no warping of the sidewalk in front of the d.r. requester's house. our house is set back approximately 3 feet further back than the d.r. requesters house. all right. in summary -- >> president hillis: you'll also have a three minute rebutt al. >> all right. >> president hillis: or two minute. so hold those thoughts. we'll take public comment in support of the project if there are any here. >> hello. my name is emil williams. i live across the street so i'm a neighbor. and i just wanted to come and support jamie and dave on their project because i think that they're exemplary neighborhood

citizens. their remodel doesn't seem out of yark of a number of other remodels that have taken place on the street. so to say that there's some kind of sort of conservation that needs to be taking place because the neighborhood is so preserved for its original facade is i don't think is very true, and it would total be uncharacter. this remodel isn't extraordinary, and they've made very -- they've been -- made very concerted efforts to reach out to all the neighbors and make sure that we are all well aware. if we had any questions, they were open to us asking and talking to them. and they've been very accommodating in my

interactions with them, and any other issue in the neighborhood, they've been very accommodating. so i'm -- so i wanted to support them to make sure -- you know, so their project can go through. i know they have a growing family, and i can totally sympathize with myself. i'm expecting my second, and it would be a loss to the neighborhood if, you know, they weren't able to size their home -- resize their home very modestly to accommodate that. so, yeah, i think those are all of my points, but i just wanted to say that, you know, they're really great neighbors. i really think they've been very accommodated. they've reached out, done their due diligence, and they've made many accommodations to their neighbor, and i just want to say that let's push this through. i think it's well worthy to be pushed through. so any ways, great. thank you. >> president hillis: thank you very much. any additional public comment? seeing none, d.r. --

[inaudible] >> president hillis: yep. we'll give you three minutes here. >> so i've lived on potrero hill since 1978, and for the last 21 years, on tejaro street. so through those years we have successfully convinced and/or fought for keep the row four gable cottages, keep that feature. i'm hoping that the project sponsors respect the neighbors request to retain this particular feature of the gabled roof in their remodel, no matter how big they want to go. in addition i hope they can respect their immediate neighbors' concerns who will be losing a lot of light and air because of this remodel. i respect their need for more space and a garage, but i'm hoping they are respectful of

us as well. our neighborhood has always had a cooperative spirit. i realize that the neighborhood is changing, but i hope that we can convince the project sponsors -- will listen to our concerns and make adjustments. so far there has been no effort to do so, much to our frustration. >> president hillis: all right. thank you. so you've got a two-minute rebuttal, the d.r. requester, the original. >> so first just want to clarify, we are not attacking their character. we also want their project to go through, but with some modest modifications, get them the house they want, the space they want. we're not challenging any of that. i want to reiterate the fact that they have not made a single change to their plans since it was first submitted to the city, so all the accommodations they walked through were accommodations that they decided to make after they submitted the plans. when we requested changes, they were ignored. in talking about support from the neighbors, we have three immediate neighbors who are all

here who have written letters to the commission. of the nine support letters, all were form letters. five lived on the block. of the five, three have moved, are in the process of moving or are not their primary residence. related to the property line windows, obviously, there are lots of examples where property line windows are boxed up. there are also many examples where the commission or neighbors just being neighborly have allowed property line windows to receive additional light via light wells or a set back, so look, i think what we're asking for are modest modifications to the plan, and we're hoping that that can be pushed forward and that the project can move forward. >> president hillis: project sponsor, you've got two minutes. >> regarding neighborhood character, we just want to point out that it's mixed with several modern facades. this is just around the corner

that also has some of the same privacy screens that we're proposing? and that's just around the corner. in addition, we have an image of the other side of our street that you'll see the same trends. our street has many different styles, particularly here at the top of the block. these are quite similar to what we're proposing, and like our side of the street, the vast majorities have driveways and curb cuts, three of which are double wide or adjacent just as we are proposing. [inaudible] >> president hillis: you just need to speak in the mic so we can hear you. >> i'd also point out there's no consistency of gabled versus flat roofs. >> we've made a lot of effort to reach out to all of our neighbors. i would disagree. i think all of the letters of support of people who are really engaged in the process

with us, and you know, i think in general the vast part of the neighborhood is supportive of this? so in summary, we just really want to show that the current project already compromised for the benefit of neighbors, it meets all san francisco residential and code design guidelines. it involves nothing exceptional or extraordinary and has explicit support from nine immediate neighbors. we'd really like to request that the commission make a decision today. we've been waiting since march 7, 2017 when we submitted our plans, and we're excited to build our house for our family that will enable us to stay in frisk for the long haul. thank you. >> president hillis: all right. so that will -- >> clerk: you should probably afford secondary d.r. requester rebutt tal rebuttal, as well. and ma'am, what is your name because i have the second d.r. requester as a barry minnow.

>> so all these houses used to be little cottages, but the owners who developed them to be bigger spaces always retained that gabled a-framed shape, so could be reminiscent of potrero hill's character of that -- of that time. so i'm hoping that we can retain that. >> president hillis: thank you. that's all -- that's all we have. we'll close this portion of the hearing and open it up to commissioner comments and questions. i just have -- to the project sponsor, you had that picture of the -- of the interior of the adjacent home, and just so we can get -- you ran quickly

through kind of the windows that were being covered. on the whole, we see a lot of kind of additions, this one's pretty modest. i think you kind of respect the pop owegraphy -- topography on the height. i don't think there's anything extraordinary or exceptional, to be honest. we run into this a bit on lot line windows. these aren't protected but there's a view to that side. can you just run over which ones are being proposed to be covered. >> all of the windows highlighted here. actually you will "au" see two of them are actually full height sliding glass doors that open onto a deck. that would be this one here and this one here? these are picture windows that you can see. all of those will remain uncovered. >> president hillis: and the fall line between the cabinets, that's into the adjacent -- that's not into your property --

>> that's right. that's facing south. this is another view, so this -- you can see, this is the north facing side -- >> president hillis: those are the same two ones that you showed us to the south. >> that's right, and these are two facing north that would be covered. so you can see, yes, light, not coming in from here, but right here, adjacent windows that'll provide ample light in our opinion. >> president hillis: and you have a comment. >> so you show two of the windows. i would say i get the direct sun light from the northern facing windows for four months out of the year. they're showing two of the windows. the other windows, two more, one is in a bathroom. the only access to light and air. two of the windows they highlight are in my neighbor's lot. it's in an open lot with trees. i would get more light if it

was a while wall because it's mostly leaves. i am significantly impacted on the back of my home, and if a light well were created, i could get light and air access to the back part of my house without any modification to their floor plan. >> president hillis: i'm generally comfortable with the project. i think it's a modest addition to a small house, but not making it anywhere near what we see kind of in other projects. i guess there's going to be an impact to you from the covering of kind of lot line windows. we see that often. it's unfortunate, but they're kind of there, and not protected under the rule. so i'm comfortable with the project as -- as proposed. commissioner moore? >> commissioner moore: mr. fung -- commissioner fung was before me, but that's fine. i would have liked to see a 3-d massing, and i don't see any

materials. obviously, the architect is well known, does very good work. the building is a little bit self-centered. that is, it's hard to understand what is behind the window screens there, but it is code compliant, meets the residential guidelines. does its stepping. it is a modern addition versus a gabled house, and it is difficult to take d.r., other than looking for a neighborly gesture that didn't occur. and we cannot really enforce it because while i believe property line windows on all the buildings perhaps should be a neighborly gesture, we cannot enforce that. i would have liked to see a certain recognition of that gesture, but i believe there seemed to be a little bit of animosity between the parties. why, how, i don't know, but this is nothing we can physically deal with. we cannot take on getting in

between that nonresolved discourse between the two parties. so i'm not making a motion. i'd hoped that there would be something, but it's not happening. >> president hillis: thank you. commissioner fun commissioner fong? >> commissioner fong: the gabled roofs, while i think there are a number of them in a row, they're not necessarily sister houses, and so i don't see anything exceptional or extraordinary here, and move not to take d.r. and approve project. >> second. >> clerk: seeing nothing further, commissioners, there's a motion that's been seconded to not take d.r. and approve the project as proposed. on that motion -- [roll call] >> clerk: so moved, commissioners. that motion passes unanimously, 4-0. >> president hillis: all right. and that's the last item. the meeting is adjourned.

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program these places on a more frequent basis. i'm with the civic center community benefit district, and i'm program manager for the civic center commons. also, third thursdays will have music. that was really important in the planning of these events. >> we wanted to have an artist that appeals to a wide range of tastes. >> i'm the venue manager. good music, good music systems, and real bands with guitar players and drummers. >> we turned uc center and fulton street into a place where people want to be to meet, to laugh, and it's just an amazing place to be. there's a number of different

exhibits. there's food, wine, cocktails, and the idea, again, is to give people an opportunity to enjoy what really is, you know, one of the great civic faces in america. when you look from the polk street steps, and you look all the way down the plaza, down market street, daniel burns' design, this was meant to be this way. it's really special. >> the city approached us off the grid to provide food and beverages at the event as kind of the core anchor to encourage people who leave a reason to stay. >> it's really vibrant. it's really great, just people walking around having a good time. >> this formula is great food, interesting music, and then, we wanted to have something a little more, so we partnered with noise pop, and they

brought in some really fun games. we have skeeball, we also have roller skating lessons, and we've got a roller skating rink. >> if you're a passion jail skeeball player like me, and you're deciding whether you're just going to roll the ball up the middle or take a bank shot. >> our goal is to come out and have fun with their neighbors, but our goal is to really see in the comments that it's a place where people want to hold their own public event. >> i think this is a perfect example of all these people working together. everybody's kind of come together to provide this support and services that they can to activate this area. >> there's no one agency or

organization that really can make this space come alive on its own, and it's really through the collective will, not just of the public sector, but both the public and our business partnerships, our nonprofits partnerships, you know, neighborhood activists. >> i really like it. it's, like, a great way to get people to find out about local things, cuisine, like, it's really great. >> it's a really good environment, really welcoming. like, we're having a great time. >> we want to inspire other people to do this, just using a part of the plaza, and it's also a good way to introduce people if they're having a large scale event or small scale event, we'll direct you to the right people at the commons so you can get your

event planned. >> being a san francisco based company, it was really important to connect and engage with san franciscans. >> how great is it to come out from city hall and enjoy great music, and be able to enjoy a comtail, maybe throw a bocci ball or skee ball. i find third thursdays to be really reinrig rat reinriggating for me. >> whether you're in the city hall or financial district or anywhere, just come on down on third thursdays and enjoy the music, enjoy an adult beverage,

enjoy the skee ball; enjoy an adult playground, if you >> you're watching quick bite, the show that has san francisco. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we're here at one of the many food centric districts of san francisco, the 18th street corridor which locals have affectionately dubbed the castro. a cross between castro and gastronomic. the bakery, pizza, and dolores park cafe, there is no end in sight for the mouth watering

food options here. adding to the culinary delights is the family of business he which includes skylight creamery, skylight and the 18 raisin. >> skylight market has been here since 1940. it's been in the family since 1964. his father and uncle bought the market and ran it through sam taking it over in 1998. at that point sam revamped the market. he installed a kitchen in the center of the market and really made it a place where chefs look forward to come. he created community through food. so, we designed our community as having three parts we like to draw as a triangle where it's comprised of our producers that make the food, our staff, those who sell it, and our guests who come and buy and eat the food.

and we really feel that we wouldn't exist if it weren't for all three of those components who really support each other. and that's kind of what we work towards every day. >> valley creamery was opened in 2006. the two pastry chefs who started it, chris hoover and walker who is sam's wife, supplied all the pastries and bakeries for the market. they found a space on the block to do that and the ice cream kind of came as an afterthought. they realized the desire for ice cream and we now have lines around the corner. so, that's been a huge success. in 2008, sam started 18 reasons, which is our community and event space where we do five events a week all around the idea of bringling people closer to where the food comes from and closer to each other in that process. >> 18 reasons was started

almost four years ago as an educational arm of their work. and we would have dinners and a few classes and we understood there what momentum that people wanted this type of engagement and education in a way that allowed for a more in-depth conversation. we grew and now we offer -- i think we had nine, we have a series where adults learned home cooking and we did a teacher training workshop where san francisco unified public school teachers came and learned to use cooking for the core standards. we range all over the place. we really want everyone to feel like they can be included in the conversation. a lot of organizations i think which say we're going to teach cooking or we're going to teach gardening, or we're going to get in the policy side of the food from conversation. we say all of that is connected and we want to provide a place that feels really community oriented where you can be interested in multiple of those things or one of those things

and have an entree point to meet people. we want to build community and we're using food as a means to that end. >> we have a wonderful organization to be involved with obviously coming from buy right where really everyone is treated very much like family. coming into 18 reasons which even more community focused is such a treat. we have these events in the evening and we really try and bring people together. people come in in groups, meet friends that they didn't even know they had before. our whole set up is focused on communal table. you can sit across from someone and start a conversation. we're excited about that. >> i never worked in catering or food service before. it's been really fun learning about where things are coming from, where things are served from. >> it is getting really popular. she's a wonderful teacher and i think it is a perfect match for us. it is not about home cooking. it's really about how to facilitate your ease in the kitchen so you can just cook. >> i have always loved eating food.

for me, i love that it brings me into contact with so many wonderful people. ultimately all of my work that i do intersects at the place where food and community is. classes or cooking dinner for someone or writing about food. it always come down to empowering people and giving them a wonderful experience. empower their want to be around people and all the values and reasons the commitment, community and places, we're offering a whole spectrum of offerings and other really wide range of places to show that good food is not only for wealthy people and they are super committed to accessibility and to giving people a glimpse of the beauty that really is available to all of us that sometimes we forget in our day to day running around. >> we have such a philosophical mission around bringing people together around food.

it's so natural for me to come here. >> we want them to walk away feeling like they have the tools to make change in their lives. whether that change is voting on an issue in a way that they will really confident about, or that change is how to understand why it is important to support our small farmers. each class has a different purpose, but what we hope is that when people leave here they understand how to achieve that goal and feel that they have the resources necessary to do that. >> are you inspired? maybe you want to learn how to have a patch in your backyard or cook better with fresh ingredients . or grab a quick bite with organic goodies. find out more about 18 reasons by going to 18 reasons.org and learn about buy right market and creamery by going to buy right market.com. and don't forget to check out

our blog for more info on many of our episodes at sf quick bites.com. until next time, may the fork be with you. ♪ ♪ >> so chocolaty. mm. ♪ >> oh, this is awesome. oh, sorry. i thought we were done rolling. ♪

>> president breed: good afternoon, everyone and welcome to the board of supervisors meeting for tuesday may 1st, 2018. madam clerk, please call the roll. >> clerk: thank you, madam president. president breed. >> president breed: here. >> supervisor cohen present. supervisor fewer present. supervisor kim present. supervisor peskin present. supervisor ronen present. supervisor safai present. supervisor sheehy present. supervisor stefani present. supervisor tang present.