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sfgovt sfgovtv, please show the office of small business live. >> good afternoon. it is the tradition to start each meeting with the small business commission is the o-- should be your first stop when you have questions about what to do next. you can all find us in person or on-line at city hall. best of all, all our services are free of charge. the small business commission is the official public forum to voice your opinions and concerns about policies that affect the economic vitality of small businesses in san francisco. if you need assistance with small business matters, start here at the office of small business. thank you. >> clerk: item one, call to order and roll call.

>> clerk: commissioner stevens adams? commissioner kathleen dooley. commissioner mark dwight in commissioner william ortiz-cartagena. commissioner marry rilely. commissioner mirrian zouzounis. mr. president, you have a quorum. >> president adams: thank you. next item, please. >> clerk: item 2, public comment is the time for the public to comment on items not on the commission's agenda and allows the public to comment on future agenda items. >> president adams: do we have any public comment on items not on today's agenda. >> hi. my name is sage and i'm coming from a request today with a coalition of small business owners that all have to do with the pet industry. we are fighting a battle against a new chain store andum willing shop that's coming into

our neighborhood? and i'm not exactly sure if we need to do a formal presentation and if i'm requesting to be on for next month to do a formal presentation or if there's any other way to get your assistance or endorsement to having their conditional use permit blocked because of the significant harm they will do to small businesses in san francisco. >> president adams: okay. great. thank you. location? >> noe valley, so there's ten -- four of us directly in neovalley, and the coalition is a combination of ten other stores in the area. >> president adams: okay. great. thank you. we know what it is. thank you. >> clerk: okay. >> president adams: any other members of the public? seeing none, public item is closed. next item. >> clerk: item three, approval of registry business applications and resolutions. discussion and action item. the applicants are marine chartering company,

incorporated and mission graduates. the presenter is richard kurylo, legacy business program manager. excuse me for a moment. >> r. kurylo: good afternoon, president adams, commissioners, office of small business staff. richard kurylo, legacy business program manager. sf gov tv, i have a powerpoint presentation. before you today are two considerations for businesses to be included on the business registry. the applications are reviewed by me for completion and submitted to historic preservation staff for review. the commission heard the applications on april 4th and made positive recommendations to the small business

commission. for both applicants, the commission has been provided a staff report, a draft resolution, the application, a case report from planning department staff, and a resolution from the historic preservation commission. there are copies on the table for the public. item 3-a is marine chartering company incorporated. the business is a worldwide transportation brokerage firm and ocean transportation company. marine chartering was founded in 1955 by george kisskadon, a long time salor with experience in all aspects of marine operations, chartering, and brokering. the company pioneered the brokerage of ships and cargoes from the pacific coast and rapidly expanded into all aspects of ocean transportation, including logistics operations from origin to destination. marine chartering is one of the few privately owned and independent shipping companies

that has made the conscientious effort to remain in san francisco. as the oldest shipping company in the city, marine chartering is an opinion component of the city's maritime history. his can don later founded the oceanic society, a nonprofit dedicated to conserving marine wildlife habitats. item 3-b is mission graduates. the organization incorporated in 1972 as a nonprofit organization that prepared k through 12 students in san francisco's mission district to complete a college education. mission graduates works to boost college enrollment, especially among latino youth who face lower college participation rates than other populations. their programming creates a college going culture that emphasizes parental and community engagement. in the spirit of san francisco,

mission graduates annual graduations start with a youth led march through the mission called march to college, and ends with a college resource fair for mission families. both businesses received a positive recommendation from the historic preservation commission. after reviewing these applications and the recommendations from the historic preservation commission, staff finds the businesses have met the three criteria to qualify for listing on the legacy business registry. there are two draft resolutions for consideration by the small business commission. one for each of the legacy business registry applicants. note that a motion in support of the businesses should be amotion in favor of the resolutions. in the resolutions, please pay close attention to the core physical features or traditions that define the business. once approved by the small business commission, the businesses must maintain these physical features or traditions

in order to remain on the legacy business registry. for marine chartering, it's maritime transportation, for mission graduates, it's services for underserved students in the mission district. this concludes my presentation. i'm happy to answer any questions, and there are representatives in attendance who would like to speak on behalf of the application. >> president adams: okay. do we have any commissioners who would like to make comments before we open it up to public comment? okay. would anybody -- let's open it up to public comment. anybody who would like to make public comment on these two legacy business nominations? come on up. this is your chance. >> president, hello. commissioners, it's nice to be here today. my name is carl tata, and i represent marine chartering. as richard mentioned in his presentation, we were founded

in 1955, so approaching our 65th anniversary, and we're really proud to have maintained our office for such a long time here in san francisco, and, you know, appreciate also tieing together potential for becoming a legacy company as we had approach that -- that historic milestone. so a little bit about the company. maritime transportation today is -- is -- you know is kind of hard to pin down. people are not really aware of what we do, but to give a little perspective, it's kind of like in the heydays of the company, when we really grew, and we were a very large organization here in san francisco, it was almost like the tech business of the time. there was a lot of transportation. u.s. export does and world exports were really booming around the world. there is a lot of chance for venture into new areas of the world. today anyone with a cell phone

anywhere in the world can talk to anybody. the business has evolved, and we're now focused on the service side. we're a much smaller company, but we're still active here in the city. we have now about ten employees. most of them reside in san francisco or the immediate bay area, and, you know, we look forward to really maintaining that heritage that we have, maintaining the service that we provide to our customers worldwide, and the few of them that are still here in the u.s., and that's really where we are today. it's been a pleasure to -- i'm a native san franciscan. born and raised here, and i currently live in marin, but we are -- a real -- you know, find this community of san francisco to be our home. the service is right across from aquatic park, and we see the ships coming in from the bay. the maritime, you know, presence is remembered, and i -- i personally am involved with maritime association,

which supports aquatic park and help does promote interest with the park down there and providing some services and helps with the need for restoring some historic ships that we have there. i encourage you all to go take a visit down there. if you haven't been there, it's a really neat thing to see. like richard said, we wear many hats, and we're really happy to be here in san francisco. >> president adams: great. thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi. thank you, commissioners. my name is eddie kaufman, and i'm the executive director for mission graduates, and i just want to thank you for considering or application. mission graduates, we've been a part of the mission district for going on -- well, 48 years. we -- we started in 1970 and incorporated in 1972, and our focus has always been to support the young people and families in the mission

district. how we've been doing that is ensuring that college education, particularly is a focus for our young people and our families, and so we offer a pipeline of services from kindergarten all the way through college and including parent programming that supports young people to create college as an expectation instead of an exception. so between all of our sites, we run multiple sites at various schools throughout the mission district and now beyond. we work with about 3400 young people and parents each year, so we have grown. we are now an arguorganization that's close to 70 employees, and i thank you for considering our application. >> president adams: great. thank you. any other members of the public? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners, any questions?

go ahead. commissioner zouzounis? >> commissioner zouzounis: thank you. thank you, everyone for coming and giving that testimony. i used to work in the valencia street location with mission graduates, and i like how you connect with the community and give fundraisers, that business and stuff. that's a really great project you have going on. for the maritime stuff, i'm someone who row manticizes the labor industry of our waterfront, so i like that you're continuing that and you're preserving our economic piece of that legacy in our city. i work in imports, so i -- we -- we need to reenactivate our portion in our dimensions, so i appreciate you guys being there. >> president adams: commissioner ortiz?

>> commissioner ortiz-cartagena: for being in the mission, i want to thank the mission graduates for the resources and the need to do so. you changed a lot of lives in the neighborhood, so thank you. >> president adams: any other comments? commissioner dwight? >> vice president dwight: thank you both for going through the process, too. i know richard's a great help in that, but you've got a lot of work to do. it's interesting. we rarely spend time to reflect on our history, so this has become a great opportunity for the companies who have joined the legacy program to really reflect on their histories and write down the histories and dig out some of those photos and see what happened way back then. any way, so good on you guys for going through that process and really being here today. >> president adams: thank you. okay. do we have any -- do we have a nomination? do we have a motion? >> move to approve. >> second. >> president adams: okay. there's a motion by commissioner dwight, seconded by commissioner yee riley. roll call. commissioner adams?

commissioner dooley, commissioner dwight? divisioner ortiz-cartagena? commissioner riley? commissioner zouzounis? motion passes, 6-0. >> president adams: great. congratulations. [applause]. >> president adams: next item, please. >> clerk: item four, presentation of draft of the legacy business program annual report for 2017-18. discussion and possible action item. the presenter is rich kurylo, legacy program manager. >> r. kurylo: good afternoon again. richard kurylo, legacy program manager. sf g k0d v tv, i have a presentation. today, i am presenting the draft legacy business program annual report for 2017-18. this will be a very quick

high-level overview. we're seeking feedback on content, grammar, design, etcetera. the draft report can be found on the office of small business's website at www.sfosb.org/meetings/10. under april 23rd supporting documents. the final report will be distributed to the board of supervisors by june 1st. the executive summary is a three-page overview of the entire annual report. it covers accomplishments, the registry, business assistance services, legacy grants, marketing and branding, the budget, and upcoming activities. the background section is a one-page background of the legacy business program. this section is the same as

last year. there are two pages on major accomplishments. the order of the accomplishments mirrors the order of the sections in the annual report. there are two pictures of the 100th legacy business, casa sanchez at the september 11th sbc meeting. the legacy business registry is a nine-page section. first page lists nominations, applications, and businesses listed on the registry. we're going to be adding information to the annual report to address why there are more nominations than applications, and why there are more complications than legacy businesses. also there's an error in one of the headers that we'll correct; it says business, versus businesses. there are five pages listing all 129 legacy businesses through march 31st.

this is the last year we will list all of the legacy businesses. next year, we'll just list all of the new ones from the last annual report. the report features a table on legacy businesses pernominator as well as a table and chart showing the number of legacy businesses perdistrict. there is a map of all 129 legacy businesses as of march 31st. there are four pages on business assistance services. page one features a summary of services including one-on-one consulting and training. there is a table demonstrating the number of clients and the number of hours of technical assistance provided. the next three pages are client needs, including assistance with registry applications and technical assistance and success stories, one legacy

business and one legacy nominee. the legacy business historic preservation fund comes next. there is detailed information about the business assistance grants for fiscal year 17-18. there is also information about the rent stablization grants since they were issued in february 2017. marketing and branding is a new section this year. it covers social media promotion, press releases and notable media engagement, note aable press release mentions, and resulting articles. there is an extra word in the first sentence of the press release's section and we'll make that correction.

program budget includes the budget for last fiscal year. this fiscal year, and next fiscal year. program challenges is a new section this year. challenges include writing of legacy business applications, grant writing and grant reporting and getting setup as suppliers with the city and county of san francisco. major upcoming activities. the order of activities mirrored the order of sections in the annual report. lastly, contact information includes the small business commission, the office of small business, and small business development center. any questions, feedbacks? you're welcome to markup your draft report in your packet, hand deliver to me or you can e-mail me at

legacybusiness@sfgov.org. we're open to any comments, suggestions, feedback you may have. this co this concludes my presentation. thank you. commissioner ortiz, please? >> commissioner ortiz-cartagena: just had a question. what happened with the new vendor supplier system? >> r. kurylo: it's a very complicated process. you have to be a bidder, then a supplier. it's not very user friendly. you know, the computer system that they have to use now, and it's just gotten very, very complicated. we have to hand hold everybody through the entire process. so my understanding is the controller's office just hired a new team this past month to fix everything up and make it more user friendly, so we're working very closely with them to provide them with some feedback because we said up anywhere from 30 to 40 businesses and suppliers every

year through the legacy program, so probably us more than anyone else has really good handle on what it takes to get through the process. so we're going to -- it's going to take a few years, but we want to get them to the point where someone with just google how to get up as a supplier with the city and be able to figure out on their own and not need any hand holding for the process. might take a few years, but that's what we want to get there. >> commissioner ortiz-cartagena: and the current old vendors that they called now -- >> yeah. all the old vendors got transferred over to suppliers in july. >> commissioner ortiz-cartagena: okay. >> president adams: commissioner dooley? >> commissioner dooley: just wanted to thank you once again for your amazing work. your organizational skills are amazing, and thank you for being here for us and for all the legacy businesses. >> r. kurylo: thank you. >> president adams: any other commissioner comments? >> i want to echo what commissioner dooley said. richard, you are just so

thorough, and the thing what i'm so proud of is when somebody does get a legacy business, you know, how they come up -- they thank you because you helped them through this process, and it's not an easy process, so -- and to the entire commission, i just want to give a shout out 'cause you all have been here since the beginning here. we have, what, 120 -- >> r. kurylo: perthe annual report, 129. i think we now have 132. >> president adams: you know, 129 businesses, though, since we started this. i know we should all be proud of ourselves, because i know everybody on this commission has referred to richard, and richard, you've taken care of them, and all of our referrals and through our neighborhood supervisors, so i just want to say very, very good job. i actually went through this when regina sent it, and i think you did a very good job with it. >> r. kurylo: thank you. >> president adams: so

excellent. commissioner riley? >> commissioner riley: yes. i also wanted to thank you for your report and also my referrals. i was talking about the legacy business as some events, and people were interested, and i referred them back to you, and you get back to them with very detailed information, so thank you. >> r. kurylo: well, thank you for the referrals. >> president adams: commissioner dwight? >> vice president dwight: it's also great to see some of the people taking advantage of the financial rewards. reading through here, there's some pretty substantial amounts of money here. yeah, this is a great program. you've just done a fabulous job of organizing it and keeping it organized, so just a great job. thank you. >> r. kurylo: thank you. >> president adams: any other questions before we go to public comment? okay. public comment. would anybody like to make any comment on the legacy business item, on item number four? seeing none, public comment is

closed. and this is just -- we only make -- >> it's an informational item, provide any feedback, your opportunity to ask any questions. if there's anything you'd like to perhaps see, modify, changed, added for the final submission to the board of supervisors. you'll see it one more time. i mean, we'll send it out, but if there isn't substantive changes, then we won't have a formal presentation to the commission. >> president adams: okay. great. okay. any other comments on this before we go to the next item? seeing none, next item, please. >> clerk: item five, draft ordinance, public works code. waiver of temporary street space occupancy fee for small business week sidewalk sales. ordinance waiving the fee required by public works code section 724.1(b) for temporary street space occupancy permit on certain designated city

streets on saturday, may 19, 2018 as part of small business week. discussion and action item. >> supervisors, this is the 14th annual fee -- i mean, commissioners. excuse me. it's soon to go before the supervisors. commissioners, so the 14th piece of legislation that this commission has introduced and submitted for the annual sidewalk encroachment fee waiver as part of small business week. what was once called the sidewalk sales but now it's -- this year, we're calling it shop and dine in the 49. the district merchants were in charge of organizing the activities, so this office providing the fee waiver is one part of the activities, and

they're also coordinating with the mayor's shop and dine program to help do marketing and promotion. so what we have, 15 different neighborhood organizations. the legislation lists all the streets that we're requesting block space fee waiver for for the public of public works sidewalk encroachment for a tote of 18,321.50. that's what we're doing the fee waiver for for we're sponsoring it's the balboa, the castro, chinatown merchants, excelsior, outer mission, fillmore, glen park, haight-ashbury merchant, marina merchants, merchants of

butcher town, neovalley, north beach merchants association, valencia corridor marchants association and west portal merchants, so those are the areas that are participating in the sidewalk sales. this does not mean that other merchants might not be doing other activiation with the may 19th shop and dine in the 49 with the council of district merchants but in the area that we're going to be requesting the block space fee waiver. and want to express my great appreciation to supervisor kathrin stefani for being willing to sponsor the legislation for us this year. so if there's any questions, this is an objection item. >> president adams: i think this is the most that we've had merchant groups participating in a long time. >> right, yes. uh-huh. >> president adams: and the nice thing i like about it,

too. it's nice hours, 7:00 to 9:00 p.m., so merchants, if you're listening, nine, which is great. there's a lot of people out eating dinner between 5:00 and 9:00. so make sure you've got something out on the street. okay. any -- commissioner riley? >> commissioner riley: i'm so happy to see the chinatown merchant association is participating this year. i always try to work with the chinatown merchants to get them involved in some of these programs. >> president adams: they've got a good merchant district there now. i like the woman who is 's run it. >> she's been attending the monthly council of merchants meeting, so it's great to have

that connection. >> president adams: any other commissioner comments before we open it up to public comment? okay. do we have anybody -- anybody have any public comment on item number five? seeing none, public comment is closed. do we have a motion to approve? >> commissioner riley: i move to approve. >> commissioner dooley: second. >> clerk: okay. there's a motion by commissioner yee riley, seconded by commissioner dooley? roll call. commissioner adams? commissioner dooley? commissioner dwight? commissioner or t commissioner ortose cara hehn a? commissioner zouzounis? item passes, 6-0. >> president adams: next item, please. >> clerk: item six, approval of meeting minutes, in your packet are the meeting minutes from april 9, 2018. >> president adams: do we have

any commissioner comments on this? if not, do we have public comment on item number six? seeing none, public comments are closed. do we have a motion to approve. >> move to approve. >> commissioner dooley: second. >> president adams: all in favor? any opposed? >> clerk: okay. motion passes 6-0. >> president adams: next item, please. >> clerk: item seven, director's report. update and report on the office of small business and the small business assistance center, department programs, policies, and legislative matters, announcements from the mayor, and announcements regarding small business activities. discussion item. >> all right, commissioners, i've handed out a printed report and also for members of the public, there are copies on the table. so first to start off with, we have the accessible business

entrance program. last week there was a brown bag held by dbi, and the majority -- there were 60 participants that were in attendance, and the majority were property owners and/or design professionals, so that is good. then, i presented at the merchants of butchertown on last thursday, the bayview merchants are having a meeting on the 24e ath, and the chinatown -- this was just put together. there's going to be a merchant walk in chinatown plus a press release that is being organized through the department of building inspection at 10:00 a.m. on thursday, april 26th. i forgot to write in the date, and commissioner, yee riley,

i'll check on your availability on joining us, but anybody's welcome. and then, the people of park side meeting, coming up in early may with the outer merchants, and i know that rhea presented at the pot remember owe hill dogpatch. that was listed in your last department -- i mean, director's report, but that took place between meetings. so we are still rephrasing some calls. not as much as when the letter first dropped, but this gives you an idea that most of their calls, again, are property owners. we have one that is a property owner and a small business owner, property managers, and then one that's a small business. again, i think just answering more questions around what's the process, how do i get ahold of a certified access

specialists. the legislation that you heard at the last meeting with supervisor tang sponsoring legislation to attend the time frame, that was actually heard today in land use. she expedited it, so it -- included in the amendments were the recommendation that the commission made for the 30-day written notification to business tenants for any construction in the entryway or on the sidewalk. and then, we -- we -- between gi and myself, -- dbi and myse realized that some of the soft story ordinances are taking place right now, and they're making themselves accessible, so making not them having todum i didn't tell them hiring someone to fill out the check lists. if their enter way is being

made fully accessible, they're allowed to meet the number of the check list. we've also put in a clause to allow for the director of the department to allow for any other similar type situations to be able to use the permit number to meet the satisfaction of the ordinance, just so that we're not having people pay duplicate for an activity that they're recently -- construction work that they've recently done to make their entryway accessible. and then, the city attorney realized that there needed to be a little more clarification around the unreasonable hardship, refining it a little bit since we aren't taking a look at the whole facility but just the entryway, so those amendments were also included after heard the legislation two weeks ago, so they heard it at

land use, and we don't see any reason it's not going to pass, so we'll be able to -- we've been telling, in all the presentations, but we can't officially post-it yet, that january 1st, 2019 is the official date for submitting the check list for categories one and two. so -- and then, i did send a notification that olse is holding official rulemaking around finalizing the rules and regs for lacktation in the workplace, for businesses, and that's on june 7th. that will be here? and -- and -- and again, just a reminder for businesses that are listening, the supplies to every business that has one or more employees. then, legislation, there hasn't

been much legislation that's been introduced. the planning code with not allowing khanna business retail and khanna business medical dispensaries in chinatown, supervisor safai, citywide to allowing for catering as an accessory use in neighborhood commercial. this would be with limited restaurants. and then -- and we'll be hearing these soon. and then, the police code required agreements between cannabis operators and labor organizations, which i mentioned last time. and then, most recently, that was forwarded is we'll see if we're able to hear this, but a motion ordering submitting to voters for the november 6th, amending the business tax to add a new business tax for network transit services and public vehicle services, so

that's primarily what's on the docket for the commission? the -- your -- the new business item, the letter to the city, the zoning administrator, will go out this week, so i will probably will not have a respon response for a couple weeks after that. and then wanted to just do a reminder for the public to let them know that the next meeting for the commission is may 9th, at 9:30 a.m. these changes are being made due to small business week. oh, i do have one update for the letter of phil ting. i did hear from the department of environment that they have just recently been informed

that there is a senate bill, 452, that is also taking a look at doing some amendments to the bottle bill programming, so some of the clauses benefit -- will affect and -- for the good of some of the issues that we need to take care of. we'll still be working the two track of dealing with what's in this budget cycle, and then looking to see what we can do in terms of working with senator wiener's office on doing any particular amendments that might help our small businesses, and -- and ai'll b reaching out to you, commissioner zouzounis for some follow up with that. so that concludes my report. >> president adams: any commissioner questions or comments? >> commissioner riley: next meeting is may 9th? >> may 9th. at 9:30. and i did send out a meeting --

excuse me, may 10th -- let me just confirm this. >> commissioner riley: i have it on may 10th. >> excuse me. i have it may 10th. excuse me if i say may 9th -- at 9:30. >> commissioner riley: okay. i have it. >> president adams: okay. any other questions before we go to public comment? do we have any members of the public wouho would like to maka comment on item number seven? seeing none, public k0789 is closed. next item, please. >> clerk: item eight, commissioner's report. allows president, vice president, commissioners to report on recent small business announcements that are of interest to the small business community. discussion item. >> president adams: i don't have any other thing to announce but small business meeting tomorrow. commissioner riley? >> commissioner riley: i called tom from the sba because in the past 2350u years, we

have special 'eminars during the small business week, but this year, they're going to postpone to june because too many things are happening in may, so fyi. >> president adams: okay. great. commissioner dooley? >> commissioner dooley: i have two things. first, a quick follow up on the public comment. i meet with the noe valley pet stores, and the pet commission. it's a situation where there's a company coming out of los angeles that has already blanketed los angeles with at least 20 new stores and they are now intending to come up here and do the same, so you can imagine they're very, very well funded, and it's really worrying noe valley, and we'll probably be worrying the rest of the valley. >> it's worrying the castro, too. >> commissioner dooley: yes, and i have found over time,

frequently, companies like this go on head and get their cu. they maybe decide to pull out for some reason, and by that time, for example in the marina, they have put every single independent pet store out of business, and so they have no one in their neighborhood. the other thing i wanted to bring up, you probably have seen it, but amazon is opening a book store in berkeley, and i really want to urge to get going on defining what is we heard in public comment from mr. cornell about defining what would be considered a conditional use in san francisco 'cause as of right now, this means that amazon could open anything they wanted in any neighborhood in san francisco. so i think that's something we really need to explore seriously and soon. >> president adams: please put that under new business. any other commissioner reports?

do we have any members of the public who would like to make comment on item number eight? seeing none, public comment's closed. item number nine, new business. >> clerk: item nine, new business. allows commissioners to introduce new agenda items for future consideration by the commission. discussion item? >> president adams: commissioner zouzounis? >> commissioner zouzounis: yeah. i would like to know if there is a list of what construction mitigation funds exist right now and what oewd is working on in terms of the content of those? i spoke to some merchants along the vanness corridor, and they lots in t lost in the hundreds of thousands of dollars already because of construction going on on vanness, and we know that's going to last a while longer. so questions about construction

mitigation funds. also in the last couple weeks and months, i've been referring increasingly to the office of small business people who are having issues with taking their licenses due to relocations, and people who are confused what to do with a license that's in escrow that, you know, has restrictions on it due to laws on the books that, you know, require cu's not to be moved for certain licenses. so yeah, i just have a question around also alcohol and tobacco licenses and if there's any, like, waiver options for people that are being forced to relocate for whatever reason. or at least some kind of -- maybe we can create a quick sheet because it's becoming a -- >> president adams: a lot of people are moving.

>> commissioner zouzounis: yeah. an info sheet or something. >> okay. so basically being able to see where there are restrictions, special alcohol use districts with restrictions, zoning -- and zoning grids. >> commissioner zouzounis: yeah, there's two. i have one business issue, they're going in front of appeals, so people who plan on moving, knowing that ahead of time is one thing, which license that applied to, and where, but also for some tobacco licenses, we've seen many times relocation and them not being able to take their license, and so a question like, how to deal with a license that's in escrow, so i'm kind of, like, or info sheet around that, too. >> president adams: okay. commissioner dooley? >> commissioner dooley: first, i want to echo what

commissioner zouzounis said about construction. i spend a lot of time on polk street. it is virtually impossible to get even near the businesses there. i'm seeing every week more businesses closing. you can't drive near there. it's completely out of control, so we need to look, once again, at construction mitigation, because i don't see how these businesses are going to survive. and then, i would like to bring up what i mentioned in my commission report, which is i'd like to request zoning administrator administrator sanchez to come and speak to us as a new item about the status right now of formula retail, whether or not on-line purveyors, especially very large ones, are going to be considered needing a cu or how that's going to be addressed. >> commissioners, may i ask for

the construction mitigation? so if a presentation is prepared, is it -- what departments would you like a presentation from? there's oewd that does the mitigation fund, but are you wanting to hear from other departments, dpw, mta, tia? >> president adams: mta is the one that's causing all the issues at the moment. >> yeah. >> president adams: but we all knew -- unfortunately, you were all warned before they started the vanness and polk street projects. >> commissioner zouzounis: i mean, my main concern is i've had conversations with oewd did about these projects, and it seems like a lot of their funding that's supposed to go to compensate merchants is going to consultants, and so i feel like we need to know exactly how that fund is going to be setup and so who's responsible for -- for that

piece. >> yeah, right. and where those funds allocated because they're not necessarily citywide. >> commissioner zouzounis: so that's my question, so whichever agency's responsible for that. >> president adams: will any other new business? we have any members of the public who would like to make any comments on item number nine? seeing none, item is closed next item, please. >> clerk: sf gov tv, please show the small business slide. >> president adams: it is our custom to begin and end each small business meeting with the small business commission is the only place to start a small business in san francisco, and remember, the small business commission is the official public forum to voice your opinions and concerns about policies that affect the economic vitality of small

businesses in san francisco. if you need assistance with small business matters, start here at the office of small business. next item in. >> clerk: item 10, adjournment. action item. >> so moved. >> second. >> president adams: all in favor? public comment -- adjournment. >> clerk: the meeting is adjourned at 2:49 p.m.

>> hi. i'm shana longhorn with the san francisco league of women voters. i'm here to discuss prop e, a measure that will be before the voters on june 5th. in 2014, the supervisors adopted a resolution in san francisco that prohibited the sail of cigarette products. a rhenendumb was filed requiring that the ordinance be submitted to the voters. the ordinance will not go into effect unless a majority of voters approve. proposition e is a refer endumb to pass the ordinance passed by the board of supervisors prohibiting the sail of flafrd tobacco products in san francisco. a yes vote means you want to prohibit the sail of flafrd tobacco products in san francisco. a no vote means if you vote no, you want to allow the sale of flavored tobacco products in san francisco.

i'm here with dr. lawrence chung, past president of the marin medical society. we're also joined by star child, outreach director of the libertiaryian party of san francisco. thank you both for being here. i'd like to start with you, star child. why do you feel it's so important. >> well, it's an expansion of the war on drug dos, and we shd know that the war on drugs has been a massive failure. it didn't work with alcohol, it didn't work with cannabis, and it won't work with tobacco. this will create a black market in san francisco for purchase of cigarettes on the streets where they won't be checking i.d. it's already illegal in california for people under 21 to buy tobacco products, so the opposition's claims about oh, it's about kids being able to buy tobacco, well kids can't

buy tobacco now. this is about not fringing on adult choices. it's going to lead to more crime, it's going to lead to more retailers closing. controller's economic office estimated 50 million lost in sales. vaping stores and other retailers that are highly reliant on tobacco sales will close. raping actually helps people quit smoking. it's less harmful. vaping and e cigarettes are included under this proposed ban. >> thank you. dr. chung? >> thank you for asking me to be here? i'm here not only as a concerned physician but as a father. i have two wonderful nine-year-old twin boys and girls, and i am worried that this is allen assault on our k. canny flavored tobacco has only one use, and that's to hook kids into tobacco.

this measure is all about protecting our kids, our community, and i feel very strongly that we should uphold this ban on tobacco that has already been passed by a unanimous decision at the board of supervisors level. so please join me and the san francisco marin medical association, the california medical association and the american medical association in upholding this ban on candy flavored tobacco, vote yes on prop e. >> thank you. i'd like to ask some questions, and i'm going to begin with you, dr. chung. do you believe that this proposition, a ban on flavored tobacco is the best way to fight youth tobacco use. >> yes, i believe this is a very effective way to fight youth tobacco, because we know that four out of five kids who start smoking start with a candy tobacco flavored product, four out of five. so if we ban the sale of these

candy flavored tobacco in our stores, we will effectively keep them out of the reach of our kids. it's all about our health. >> and the same to you, star child. >> absolutely not. as i mentioned, the kids already can't buy tobacco in stores. what this will do is drive sales to the streets or on-line where i.d. check is less effective or in the case of on the streets, it won't take place at all. if you buy things on the street from unregulated sources, he don't know what's in them. we all know the case of eric garner in new york city who was killed by police there. he was selling illegal unlicensed cigarettes on the street, so that's an example of the kind of violence that can be produced by this, and it's not going to be effective at preventing kids from smoking. i mean, kids get tobacco know. i mean, it's a parental

decision. keep your nine-year-olds from smoking, absolutely, but prop e won't help make that happen. >> thank you. our next question goes to star child first, is do you believe proposition e is too broad, there have been some arguments that in addition to it covering candy and flavored tobacco in that sense, that it also covers menthol cigarettes and hookah use in the middle eastern communities. >> we would be against it even if it were only covering a very narrow segment, because your question is does your body belong to you or the government. all of us consume various things that are unhealthy. if we all switched to a raw food, vegan diet, we would be much healthier. does that mean that anything that's not vegan should be criminalized? no, but that's the way that

some people want to go. big government, unfortunately, they already make more off of the sale of a package of cigarettes than the tobacco companies do. they're trying to make money off of it on both ends, fining it from the sales, and criminalizing it on the other, and all the apparatus, there will be air cost with enforcing that, and we've seen with the war on drugs and putting people behind bars, especially with low-income communities and communities of color, and this is the wrong way to go. we know proceed hibitihibitionr on drugs is the wrong way to go. >> dr. chung? >> absolutely not. again, most kids start smoking through candy flavored tobacco products. these flavors are added for a reason: so make smoking easier and to make more pima ikt didded. we know the more you smoke, the more it'll call you to have

harm, cancer and eventually death. i like to do whatever i can to keep my kids safe and to keep my community safe. i do believe this ban will be effective in reducing our kids from smoking, so i'm a proponent of this proposition. >> and we'd like to have our closing arguments. we'll start with you, star child. >> well, first of all, i wanted to point out, for one thing, there's medical health professionals and people who care about kids and reducing death on both sides of this argument, so please don't be misled by the fact that my opponent has the word dr. in front of his name. et he et -- he's a dermatologist, not a health care researcher. the fact that kids may start by smoking flavored tobacco, that has nothing to do with the reality that everybody likes flavors. they're acting like oh, just because it's flavored, it's going after kids.

nonsense. i like different flavored when i eat products. i don't smoke cigarettes, but it's something that people should have, again, ultimately the right to choose what to put into their own bodies, and this is not going to reduce smoking. history shows it's not going to reduce smoking. the belief that it will somehow flies in the face of reality. >> thank you. dr. chung? >> thank you. again as a practicing physician in san francisco for over ten years and having represented san francisco marin medical society, the california medical association and also the american medical association on public health policy, i can tell you that all of our organizations feel that this proposition is the right thing to do. this proposition simply is to uphold the ban on candy flavored tobacco. big tobacco is waging a war, an assault on our kids' health. they try to get a new generation of children to be addicted to tobacco products that's going to increase our health care costs down the

road. nod to diseas-- in addition to diseases and deaths, so please vote no on proposition e. >> thank you. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> no on prop e. >> we hope that this discussion has been informative. for more information on this and other ballot measures in the june election, please visit the department of elections website at sfelections.org, remember, early voting is available at city hall on may 7th, from 7:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., and if you don't vote early, remember to vote on june 5th.

>> we expect commissioner bobbie wilson a little later. to my left