for these scooters. it's recommended that sfmt provide the guidelines on how and where the scooters are placed and we encourage sfpd to enforce the state law against sidewalk riding. it's recommending that sfmta with the scooter companies -- work with the scooter companies to share data travel information, user travel information so the analysis can be done to update a comprehensive plan, transit plan, which can ultimately reduce congestion. so in other words you want to have -- get this incorporated sgoo a plan. -- into a plan. the second motion we passed has to do with today's topic, which is business of streetcars. that one reads as, recommends that complete cars in and then in parens slated to be scrapped, not be scrapped or rather

retained for the plan or a planned expansion of historic rail line service in the future, may not be just the e line but any new line that may come into play. as other cars are being moved to another storage area these cars can also be moved at the same cost of the cars. the cost of those storage and stripping cars is offset by moving the car -- by the moving costs of the cars thus keeping the cars in tact is far more beneficial. this is also because i have the potential for selling or trading with other transit properties. the argument places the cars that are kept and stored outside for the past 15 years to an outside observer it makes no sense to scrap a complete car instead of a completely stripped car. therefore it is recommended that if necessary already complete stripped cars be scrapped in

exchange for the three of the complete cars that you are planning to scrap. >> thank you. i will note that the disposal of the streetcars is 10.5 but it's going to be is -- severed so we'll be able to do that. >> thank you. >> public comment? >> no one has turned in a speaker card on that, madame chair. >> any public comment? seeing none public comment closed and we will move on. >> nine, general public comment. this is an opportunity for the members of the public to address the board on items not on today's agenda. >> thank you, director. i thank you.

some people had to come back, some people never got the paperwork. that's another issue but thank you so much for doing it. going forward and to this one, the report, you paid $225,000 and it's a surge report. they are totally incapable, item 1c that it should be given to one company. all the people came to the first meeting, second meeting, now we are done in the third meeting. nobody supported it. that shows how bad the report is, not a single person in favor of this report. going to item 2, about reducing the number of medalian, nobody supported it. both items failed miserably in these meetings so far. so it's a waste of our money.

you don't have one person saying there's anything to do in it. going further about this one, about the federal credit union, it's zero from the government. they are collected at the height of the market, too much money they never said we will charge you instead of six person or two person. they made the money. they should not be paid anything. it was a business deal. fair, fair. they should not be paid a penny from the mta. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> on the way to the meeting i saw shooters on the sidewalk over and over and over again.

you should have never given them a pass like that. this is to be honored with safety standards. they violated it immediately. the companies oh -- of the scooters have to be called into account. either you comply with the law or we run you out of town. it's as simple as that. i really don't like the idea of people's safety on the sidewalk being endangered. i'll say one thing for the motorcyclists, they never ride on the sidewalk, they never go through the red light. so anyway, please enforce your standards and start arresting them and citing them. you only have to do this randomly and the word will go out. the public safety is endangered. you are mandated with protecting that. i say that in bold italic letters. please do so. >> thank you. next speaker, please.

>> david pillpail continuing with the item for rail and back on the twin peaks project which i've spoke b about several times, 50i7 wondering if the rail meets the specifications in the contract? was that high strength rail, regular strength rail, is that the rail that has been sitting along the boulevard for the last two, two and a half years rusting? is that rail going to need to be ground in the tunnel after being laid. is that going to reduce its life span less to what was projected by staff? the issue raise these questions for you in which we are planning

a three-day shut down for memorial day weekend and a 60-day shut down that will inconvenience passengers, especially those of us on the west side directors who have to sit on the west side of the room. that's very nice. so i have those concerns. in addition, the memorial day weekend closure has not been largely broadcast to passengers. that's supposed to be a week and a half from now. that's a three-day shut down which will inconvenience lots of people. the larger 60 day closure that's now planned in july and august has was discussed earlier as it relates to special, it will impact other special events, for example, the sunday concerts at stern grove and lots of other things that happen over the summer for which people normally take the subway and for which if bus substitution is available will delay their trips significantly and they may not know that and may not plan

accordingly and will be further unhappy with the new agency with the new logo. thanks. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. next speaker, please. >> the last two people to turn if a speaker card on this topic. >> chairman brinkman: mr mr. gilberte. >> thank you. apologize for getting here late and missing the director's report. scooter on the ground reminds me of people laid out on the ground. it's just bad. coming here i asked one in front of the department of education and that's a narrow -- with the trees and planting there, that's a narrow walkway now. you throw a scooter in and it's bad. on saturday i was boarding the e-line at the 30 building and at the bottom of the ramp two scooter people were just leaving their scooters at the bottom of the ramp for the wheelchair to go up. i said i hope you're not leaving

them here. yes, they did. it's a tough play. sidewalk walk, we don't require helmets to walk on the sidewalk, especially if you're in a wheelchair or a low but people who we are allowing to roll on the sidewalk require a helmet. so there's a mismash of danger here. civic center, i want to thank you for trying something with people in the elevators. i came out of civic center last wednesday. the person inside greeted me and outside the doors on the walkway not knowing very much about your -- urine, i'm wondering if urine can create a bomb. they don't pee inside the elevator anymore, the doors close and they pee right outside the elevator on the platform

from the civic center. i had never smelled it so bad. i understand we have steam clean machines. we don't have the cause to use them. so we need to hire more. thank you. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. next speaker. >> mark gruberg is the last speaker to turn in a speaker card on this topic. >> thank you directors, mark gruberg. i also want to say a few words about the shallow report. i really feel it was a missed opportunity. the prime reason as i understood it for commissioning this report was the broken medallion situation. there's nothing in this report that is going to help our change that. certainly nothing directly.

the only, you know, indirect help would be some vague proposals that theoretically, you know, could improve the management of taxis and somehow improve ridership. it's really nothing. there's no help for the building of ridership. reducing the number of medallions is only going to hurt at those type that is are fairly rare. there are times that you need these cabs out on the street. the report is going to benefit maybe just two very large companies and small companies are going to have to go banging at their doorstep because those

companies are going to be put in charge of airport dispatch. so, you know, that's not right and not fair. so i don't think that there is much of anything if anything in this report to recommend it. just to say a last word about the scooters e -- the behavior is or rent duhs. >> chairman brinkman: anything else? >> moving onto your consent calendar. they are considered to be routine unless a member of the public or board wish to have an it item severed. you've had a request for

10.2pii, 10.4 and 10.5 be severd. do i have a motion to approve content minus 10.2pii, 10.4 and 10.5. >> so moved. >> [roll call] >> consent calendar approved except for those item that is start with 10.2p. it was severed by a request of the member of the public on kirkham street. >> david pill pail. i oppose this intersection. it's not need. it's an intersection that gets more traffic on kirkham and less on 16th avenue. i heard it was not a strong concern. if it was approved i would ask

that staff monitor its implementation and consider revoking it in the future if it turns out it was not strongly needed. once again, i note for all of 10.2 that there's no section in the write up about stakeholder engagement that's present in all the other staff reports but none for 10.2. i would be interested in knowing for each of these proposed change ifs there was public comment or no comment so it's just recognimmended as a routin staff item. that's what we normally see but it isn't there for 10.2. thank you. >> chairman brinkman: thank you mr. pillpail. mr. mcguire could you speak on 10.2p on the kirkham street. >> good afternoon, directors. tom mcguire.

director of the sustainable streets division. this location 16th and kirkham is at the base of the hidden garden steps. we had a question on the -- request on the 22nd saying that pedestrians with -- were hard to see and requests a stop sign be installed. it was taken to a public hearing on march 22nd at which there were no objections and that's why we are recogniz recommending it. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. any directors or a motion to approve. >> on the 10.2 item social security it typical that hearing those things constitutes public out reach and they got some sort of notice for people in the area? >> that's right. the audience that we brought to you on the 10.2 consent calendar are items that went through the public hear and there was objection or minimal disagreement. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. do i have a motion?

a second? >> [roll call] >> chairman brinkman: thank you very much. as noted by the public commenter perhaps we can keep an eye on that one and if we hear any complaints maybe revisit. 10.2ii. >> chair, that item has to do with establishing tow way, no stopping any time on fell street at various locations. >> chairman brinkman: all right. i have public comment. >> yes. tim hickey. >> chairman brinkman: welcome. >> thank you. my name is tim hickey. i'm a resident of the north panhandle and with the north panhandle neighborhood association a board member. the board of the neighborhood association would like to request you approve this. this is a high injury corridor had an already had a fatality last year. we don't want more. the small step is something we think is necessary and we ask that you consider this. >> chairman brinkman: thank you

very much mr. hickey and thank you for the work that you do in the neighborhood for safety and other issues. i have another public comment? >> we have several. kristen lucky, kathy deluca, charles stepeni. >> thank you. my name is kristen lucky and i'm here from the san francisco bicycle location. i'm here to support the lighting on the street, a corridor that seeing a high number of fatal collisions. pedestrian safety improvements are paramount. last year david greenberg was killed walking on his way from the senior home to the park. this is inexcusable. we can't afford losing one more life to crossing the street. david is among many others hit in the intersection on fell street along the panhandle. daylighting makes crosswalks safer allowing drivers to see pedestrians crossing. this is necessary to create safe intersections for everyone on the street.

the closest spots to the intersections, a small price to pay for people's safe in the dangerous corridor. why it may seem small this is a dangerous intersection. i urge the board to approve daylighting to make this dangerous stretch of road safer for everyone. thank you for your time. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. next speaker, please. >> the last people to turn in speaker cards. >> good afternoon, directors. i'm kathy with walk san francisco. i'm here to the the daylighting on fell street. it's just such a ridiculous term. it's something that was adopted as part of a quick and effective vision zero package as just a standard treatment. it's really inexpensive. it's just paint. it's really easy to do. studies have shown that it decreases crashes by 30%. so if we have something that's

inexpensive that we know works and the community needs then i urge you to pass this. thank you. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. next speaker please. >> charles followed by david. those are the last two people to turn in a speaker card. >> thank you. i'm the president of the north panhandle neighborhood association. i'm here to say -- i'm here to support the daylighting on fell street. as we all know fell street is located right next to a park. it's surrounded by senior living, surrounded by families, surrounded by everyone that lives around the northwest panhandle neighborhood. we believe by adding daylighting it will help with pedestrian visibility and car visibility and driver visibility.

i'm here to say support the daylighting improvement. thank you. >> chairman brinkman: thank you for coming down. >> david pillpail is the last person to turn in a speaker card. >> on this item david pillpail. i have heard from people in the neighborhood who support and those who oppose these removals. i join with those who oppose these removals. this is already an impacted parking area. they already had somewhat significant parking removals as related to the bicycle plan and the wiggle project. in addition, the area is currently under construction for the masonic project. it's not clear from the calendar item what the total amount of parking removal is proposed here. really this is exactly the kind of thing that's a corridor project and needs to have not just the specific changes but the total impact on the area.

i believe that there are maybe accumulative impacts from this proposed parking reduce along with the previous parking reductions and i heard about the individual who was hit but i'm not clear on why this is needed. so those are my comments and questions in particular what the total parking removal is and, again, going forward i think for these corridor projects if not the agenda but the staff report should total up the parking removals on these. thanks. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. mr. mcguire, i believe that based on what i've seen in e-mails to the board that it's a total of nine parking spots being removed and that's down from an original higher first take at this? >> that's correct. there are eight blocks between baker and stanion.

nine parking spaces would be removed to make these changes. >> chairman brinkman: this is a vision zero project done as the result of collisions on those intersections. i'm looking at the little chart and it looks like there's been a total of 15 bicycle and pedestrian collisions along that corridor on fell. so we think based on what was said about this reducing it by a significant number that we are going to be able to take that down? >> that's right. it's 16 bike and pedestrian collisions and 30 total collisions. there's quite a few auto as well. >> chairman brinkman: this will make it safe every for everyone's sight line. i use the intersection at baker and fell on foot and on a bicycle. the daylighting done there has made i think a significant difference. it gives pedestrians a lot more space to see cars and pedestrians. i think this is going to be doing a similar thing. will we be marking them red or

the beige paint? >> my colleague is the project manager on this. i'm going to ask him to ask. >> good afternoon, directors. so our plan is to implement just red curbs at this point. in the future we could consider painted safety zones is what we call them. we have implemented them on the west side, the fell and baker intersection. >> chairman brinkman: i am supportive of this. i'm actually worried that we are not doing as much as we sort of originally looked at. if we approve this today with the nine parking spaces removed and the daylighting that would go forward with this what are we doing to do when we have another car or pedestrian or bike crash along that corridor? are we going to come back and look at those that we decided not to do at this point? that would be part of our response to any crash -- i mean,

hopefully it wouldn't be a fatal crash. it does weigh on me that we're not doing as much as we originally wanted to do. >> so simple answer is yes that if -- hopefully there won't be but if there's a serious crash in this corridor we will make sure owniengineers go out there see what we can't done to make it safer. with that said completion of the ma sonic intersection will help. we think the improvements where the most hazards are plus the treatments of each intersection between baker and stanion we think it should make a signature difference. >> chairman brinkman: directors, any other questions, concerns? if not do i hear a motion to approve? thank you both. >> approve. >> second. >> chairman brinkman: thank

you. all in favor? all opposed? we will approve that one with the understanding that this is a corridor that we might need to look at again in the future. so thank you for the work of this mr. lucky and mr. mcguire and thank you to the public commenters who came down for this. 10.4. >> authorizing changes to rental fees for streetcars an amending the transportation code division 2 section 301 and 305 to reduce the special collection fee for failure to timely pay or contest citations established a low income boot removal fee and make first time eligible for first toe and revise low income towing fees. >> chairman brinkman: we have public comment? >> yes. >> chairman brinkman: welcome. >> i direct the financial justice project in the office of

treasure jose sisneros. we've been collaborating through our fines and fees task force. i want to thank the mta for san francisco people struggling. that will help them as they find themselves in a desperate situation. people for example like pamela who is a disabled senior who got her car towed for the first time for her 49 year driveing drive -- driving history. she paid it was unable to pay her rent and the citation and was worried she would be evicted. she went to project homeless connect who i believe was able to help her pay her rent and citation to prevent her eviction. the reforms that are before you today would have made a big

difference for pamela. people living in poverty have a hard time coming up with the couple hundred dollars all at once. these reforms before your will significantly lower tow fees and boot fees for people under 200% of the federal poverty line and allow people to pay off their citations that led to the tow or boot over time through a payment plan or by doing community service. it's my understanding the these reforms would have been in place pamela would have needed to come up with half of what she did and she would have been able to pay off her citation over time making it easier for her to do so. with these reform fewer people like pamela will make the decision, do i pay my rent or pay to get my car back. our joint work on these challenges is not done. the mta presented these reform to the stakeholder group as a step to this process. we are still in a discussion of

how to help people struggling with homelessness living in their cars and towing cars. we look forward to continuing to work with you and thank you much. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. next speaker, please. >> jaime austin followed by david pillpail. those are the last two people. >> good afternoon, directors. tipping point is a non-profit that fighting poverty. since 2005 we raised and distributed more than $200 million to bay area non-profits. we applaud the changes that you're considering to citations for towings and tootboots. tipping point worked with tipco software to better understand the impact of mta citations on low income drivers. we analyzed 4.5 million citations covering a 5-year period and 1.3 million unique cars. the result suggested that low income drivers were much

more likely than drivers who are not low income to be assessed late fees. that low income drivers received more expense -- expensive citation types. low income drivers were less likely to use the proof of correction or fix it option than drivers not low income. we presented these to mta's leadership and the mayor's budget office. tipping point supporting the changes to the towing and boot fees that the board is considering today and encourages mta to consider other reforms that would have an impact on those who are low income or highly vulnerable. we see this vote as an important first step and we look forward to further policy changes in this area. thank you. >> chairman brinkman: thank you very much mr. austin. next speaker please. >> david pillpail is the last person to turn in a speaker card on this matter. >> david pillpail. i was going to make a joke about low income streetcar rental fees

but i'll skip that. i have no concern about the modification. income is an seqa issue. the item proposes to revise fees that were just adopted in the budget but this is a separate action, the may 1st deadline for the budget has passed. this is separate from the budget approval. it's a stand alone item and this was actually proposed as i understand after the budget was adopted. so the seqa review that was associated with this item was back from february in connection with the over all budget. did not detail out the fees, include the specific set of proposals. i don't think that the prior approval covers this item and i would likely contest this via an appeal to the board of of supervisors. the february seqa review was not a blanket approval.

the agency can't just say any change to fees and fares is covered under 15273. the planning department has to conquer in that and actually needs to review the proposed fee changes. so you can, you know, approve this if you want. council can go discuss it with staff. i've already made my points. i would likely contest this unless this is an urgency item. i would suggest resolving this or putting it off. happy to talk to people about it. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. noels your opinion on this? are we okay to go ahead on this one? >> i do see sara jones in the audience so if you want to take the next item i could confer with her briefly and just make sure that everything is set before you move forward. >> chairman brinkman: excellent. that's good. we will move onto 10.5. >> 10.5, authorizing the d

disposal of streetcars. single speaker, david pillpail. >> staff is going to want to hear this as well because this is also an seqa issue. do you want me to proceed? >> chairman brinkman: yes, please. >> so is seqa issue here, you already heard from the cac they disagree with the staff recommendation. the issue is this is in any opinion not a minor change to a structure applicable to class one exception. these vehicles are 45 -- are more than 45 years old and the checklist does not so indicate. it marked the other box. the agency just leased space for vintage streetcars to be moved from morin. these are streetcars that could be so moved. i thought that in order to dispose of such streetcars that the agency first had to declare them surplus under the

administrative code. the calendar item caption doesn't say declaring them surplus. i'm not sure that the action is within the scope of what is described here. i was also assured that any disposal of such cars would be consistent with a vintage car policy that would be preve pres to the cac and i understand has not been. the calendar item does reference something related to vehicle policy, i have not seen that document and so i'm making a request right here right now for that document that was referenced in the staff report. again, i note that this is an seqa issue and i would likely appeal this to the board of

supervisors. i have mentioned that the cac disagrees with the staff and, again, i would say unless there's some urgency around this i would suggest putting this off and resolving the issues. this is another one where council and miss jones may need to confer and they probably haven't heard my comments. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. i think that we'll take your recommendation and delay this one, put it off to -- no, we'll wait to hear -- >> madame chair, maybe move on to the regular calendar and allow staff to discuss and come back. >> chairman brinkman: we'll move on to the regular calendar and have staff the chance to discuss this. >> item 11, committing to start procuring zero owe mission battery buses. >> chairman brinkman: excellent. i see mr. haley approaching. mr. haley, welcome. >> good afternoon.

mad dam -- madame chair, board members. i'm here to is you to adopt a resolution that memorializes your leadership in a very important topic and is the topic of zero emissions. i would remind the board that under your vision and leadership we currently operate the electric fleet, just under 300 vehicles in north america. over the last five years we have retired and replaced some 600 diesel buses with hybrid buses that resulted this some 5.4 million gallons of fuel savings or will result over the

life of the vehicles. so these are good steps as we move down that. currently the expectations are far greater and you have urged us to go further and faster if that's possible in moving towards zero emissions. so i'm pleased to say that what we have em bodied in the resolutions is a series of steps that will be taken immediately which will try accomplish at this goal. at the same time i would recommend that in north america there's 5,000 transit buses priced on an annual basis. there's currently 450 electric buses in revenue service. what we are doing hopefully with these actions is helping to drive the marketplace so that we are taking emerging markets and moving it further down the road.

so the initiative that i would like to call out that are in your resolution is are number one last week i had the opportunity to see the first bus coming off the production line which has an expanded battery pack. this is is most significant it will be in san francisco within the next 30 days. it's significant because this will allow us to initiate in the fall something called green zones, which will in fact be running major portions of routes entirely on the battery. it will be quiet, zero emissions and we will get a good bench line and mark to push the technology as it emerges. the second initiative, i would point out also that we are the first transit system and north america to do this, con

semiplai semiplaits -- contemplating converting to as many as 256 of the existing hybrid buses. you may recall during the purchase we had go types of engine series in parallel packages and 256 of those -- if in fact the pilot works out they can have their engine replaced or the power train more accurately replaced with a battery pack. that would be the second initiative. the third one is the purchase in the beginning of 2019. we have put together a plan, we have looked at the -- worked with our colleagues in other systems and some of the manufacturers and it will be purchasing, bringing forward for you to purchase some nine electric buses that we will get from different manufacturers

that we will put into service and begin the process to gradually transform the fleet to all electric. if you adopt this resolution today we ask your support on this. this will put us in a position that by the year 2025 we will only buy electric buses going forward. by 2035 our entire fleet will be electric and i would point out that that puts us five years ahead of the clean air resources board goal of having everything be electric in 2040. also as we have talked about, i ask your support to this resolution, because while it's an aggressive push in some of the battery technology and innovations that we're trying, it also allows us to continue to provide the bus service that is required by some 600,000 trips a day. the buses while we talk sometimes more about the rail

side of it, the buses are one of our services. so this is we think a policy that balances the need to drive us forward and be in the leadership role with zero emissions but at the same time provide and improve the existing service. thank you. >> chairman brinkman: thank you mr. haley. i do have -- i know that we have public comment on this but i want to ask a clarifying question too. we have the purchase of 40 buses scheduled for 2023. this date of 2025 is just beyond that 40 foot bus schedule. what will the scenario be for these 40 foot buses that we are likely to purchase in 2023? >> the 40 foot buses you -- this is the last in the series of the contract. so the -- last in the series of the contract. the so the buses coming off the

manufacturing line with the extended battery pack. >> chairman brinkman: it's my understanding that we will probably be purchasing more 40 foot buses in 2023, is that -- >> let me point out what we have done is also we have a solicitation that we -- for 30 foot buses that will replace the 30 foot buses on the community service line. that was done as a technology neutral sligsation. we have received -- solicitation. we have received two bids. i think in answer to your question, by 2023, for example, if the pilots that we talked about that will allow us to accelerate the timetable. what we are dependent on is an up consolidate of -- a couple of things, one is the emergence of

battery technology and then the second thing is an on going series of adjustments primarily to our infrastructure as a way to prepare ourselves for all electric because our facilities, as you know, as you heard from our plans, are for the most part with a few exceptions very cold. it would be an enormous capital undertaking that we've started already to begin to put charging stations into our existing facilities. that process i mentioned in 2019 that we plan to buy pilot buses and we have already identified a charging methodology, a location at our woods facility and beginning that process from moving forward. so by 2023 clearly we hope to be in a position with less purchases if these are successful. we will continue to move down

the line relying on batteries rather than engines. >> chairman brinkman: just one more question, before i ask my directors if they have any questions, do we have any diesel vehicles if service or is everything we have now a diesel hybrid? >> i'm sorry? >> chairman brinkman: do we have any diesel buses in service that are just diesel, not diesel hybrid? >> yeah. we have -- at the point we will have them all -- they will all be gone by the end of 2018. >> chairman brinkman: by the end of 2018. okay. >> there are between 60 and 70 left in the fleet. that is we have for a number of reasons not related to technology we've had to slow down the retirement, things like twin peaks construction and some other activities that have come up. so all of the diesel buses should be gone by 2019.

>> chairman brinkman: okay. >> we are down to small numbers on a fleet of 800. >> chairman brinkman: directors any questions? those of you on the board for another term or two will be here when this is happening so you should really understand it. director torres? >> board member torres: i want to thank you because -- >> turn on your microphone. >> board member torres: i shut it off because roberta told me to. i want to say thank you for the work that you've done on this issue. as you know, i'm a strong proponent of electric transportation in this state. we are ahead of our time here in san francisco. in large due to leadership of our director. this proceeded me on this board in issuing this kind of direction and vision. you in doing so as well. i also want to thank you for the letter you sent on may 14th because of the people concerned about a pilot program. that was an important step to take. lastly, the sooner you remove

those diesel buses from operation the less time i'll have to spend at home from all the debris from the diesel buses off of route 37. >> chairman brinkman: thank you, director torres. any other questions before public comment? thank you very much. we'll hear from the public now. >> first three speakers. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is paul court, i'm an attorney with earth justice and a san francisco resident. i'm here today to support the proposed resolution to move muni to all electric buses by 2035. i'm very proud as a resident of the regnawed commission to -- as a resident to move away from con come -- combustion buses.

first on timing. buses have a useful life of 12 to 14 years. so this means if we want to get all of the diesel including the hybrid buses off the year in 2045 we need to end them in the 2021/2023 time frame. by the way, this is very doable. this is being done at other transit agencies up and down the state. so the resolution we would ask be amended to direct staff to begin purchasing zero emission buses well before 2025. the nine bus pilot is an important first step and needs to happen right away. muni should be leveraging the 30 foot bus procurement and begin ramping up electric bus procurement so by 2023 it will all be zero emission. second

equity. the resolution should direct staff to fold equity into the decision-making and planning. for example, should encourage staff to prioritize impacted communities as it rolls out this innovative green zone concept. similarly, staff introduce zero emissions buses and upgrade facility staff should prioritize efforts that benefits communities. finally jobs. transitioning to an all electric feet in require commitment and provide great opportunity to provide a pathway to good >> chairman brinkman: thank you. >> the board should direct staff to commit to a plan -- >> chairman brinkman: thank you. we will take the jobs to note. i'm sorry that your time is up. >> thank you. >> emily rush, . >> i'm emily rush, the executive director of the california public interest group based in oakland. i wanted to come here to today to support the resolution over all.

i do want to align myself too with the comments that paul just made about the timeline concerns and the idea that we theneed toy electric buses before 2025. nearly 60% of the nation's 70,000 transit buses still operate on diesel today. i think it's so important that san francisco lead the way on this issue by purchasing electric buses now. there is significant public health for the riders oh of the -- riders of the buses. it's heavy duty vehicles that need to transition to electric as well. i want to applaud the board. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. next speaker, please.

>> thank you very much. members of the board, director, my name is nick jefowitz. i represent the san francisco mayor on mtc and i've been working hard at the regional level to transition our entire region's bus fleet to e leng trick. -- electric. there's good news, recreently allocated $10 million to match the district $10 million grant to provide transit operators in the bay area transitions to electric buses and the grants from the state there was $120 million to help transit agencies in california buy or renovate 156 buses to move them to e leng trick. -- electric. this is in line with a lot of transit agencies in the united states and around the world. l.a. metro has committed to go 100% electric by 2030.

a whole bunch of cities, london, paris, copenhagen, et cetera, have committed only for vision emotion buses starting in 2025. there are 59,000 buses. china has already transitioned 16,000 bus fleet to electric buses and they estimate that by 2025 there will be 1.2 million electric buses in china. so the good news is it's totally achievable to meet the goal of 2035. i applaud you for your -- for your leadership on that. i think the other good news is it's also totally possible to only start -- to only procure buses starting in 2023 so that there are no new procurements that would come out of this agency to procure anything but electric buses.

it's incredibly important and my time is up. thank you. >> chairman brinkman: thank you very much. >> david bill -- david pillpail followed by eddie. >> on this item that was a very interesting presentation by john haley. i think i'm neither in support nor in opposition. i would likely support this but i was not clear from the staff report what is implicated here, whether that he has were existing motor coaches, trolly coaches or some combination. i couldn't tell the term electric high drid -- hybrid vehicles. it's confusing to me. i did not understand how there was supposedly no seqa issue, how this is not a project. it seems to me like this policy change would have positive but

somewhat dramatic facility fleet feel guideway. definitely neighborhood policy and staffing impact on the agency and the city and to suggest that didn't constitute a propresident oba project if you're making a policy choice to procure only a certain type of vehicles going forward and that that doesn't have impact surprises me. so, again, wasn't clear what vehicle types this implicates, how this relates to the fleet plan that's a component of the capital improvement plan and the capital budget. i think that this needs a little more explanation along the lines oh of what mr. haley spoke about earlier and i learned things from the prior speakers as well. just finally, if you do adopt this, the certification line at the end of the resolution, refers to may 15th, 2017. that's the typo. it should be 2018. i don't understand why these

calendar items prepared by staff and many sets of eyes including the attorney and the secretary still have typos. thank you. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. next speaker, please. >> eddie. >> good afternoon, commissioners. eddie albright, non-defense, public policy nonprofit. impacted portionally by the resolution. in support of this resolution and like the comments made by paul and emily and victor. i want to commend director ruskin for his leadership on this issue and push for more time to make sure procurement of the buses are fully electric by the time the districts that

cross highways that are impacted by particular matter and not addressed often enough. maybe one tool to look at the communities of concern ordina i forward to continuing this in the future. >> chairman brinkman: anymore public comments? yes, mr. gilberte. >> thank you. a bunch of changes. electric -- >> chairman brinkman: give us your name for the record. >> tom gilberte. how about the daytime energy packs to rejuvenate the bus cells in the bus? panels on the roof of the garage of the warehouses, wherever we

can get some. it's on the battery size, the battery itself, it's easy transfer of the batteries in and out. a universal standard, what battery is going to hold up the longest and after five years do we have to replace these batteries with other batteries. that is going to be major question when you go forward on this. it's going to be quiet electric buses oh -- on the outside but please relatively quickly find out if these buses rattle on the inside. that is still unacceptable, you know, to let buses rattle on the inside. thank you. good luck. >> chairman brinkman: thank you. do i have any other pun comment? -- public comment? seeing none public comment is closed. director reiskin, the green zones that mr. haley mentioned,

do we have a program about where those would be? i do think that the call for equity on those is a really good one because there are certain neighborhoods that are much more impacted by the buses that are going through. >> that's absolutely our intent with these. if we didn't include in the staff report or resolution but that's our omission but that's absolutely the intent. i think we can make a very direct connection to those areas that are impacted by bad air quality, such as baby owners point and the mission. we do have zero emission vehicles serving some of those areas. we are looking at deployment of the green zones, the clean zones, clean green zones in those neighborhoods so absolutely. >> chairman brinkman: do you think that we need to move this resolution forward right now?

we are saying by 2025 we will be buying only electric and that will put us all electric by 2035 and the questions we seem to be getting is if we are buying buses will we be buying buses in 2022 or 2023 that are still diesel hybrid and those would possibly -- those would still be in use by 2035 date? that seems to be the concern. >> understood. just to reiterate, we are already a leader in that more than half of our fleet is already zero emission vehicles and that's far beyond what any other transit agency in the country is doing. as director haley said, the remaining with the exception of those old diesels that will be gone by the end of the year are electric hybrid vehicles and the

electric hybrid with renewable diesel which has reduced the switch from diesel to renewable diesel has reduced the gas emissions by 30%. we are already the leader. i don't want folks to lose site of that. we did -- commissioner moved to the trcp state grants, the captain grants. we were among those who sought the grants for e lek bus -- electric buses. a lot fewer riders were the recipients of those. there was a project mark. there's funds for these buses. with the regard to the year, the 2023 versus the 2025 what we put in here was first of all consistent with the c city's

commitment that was made reference in public comment. it's -- that is based in part on our best understanding of where the technology is today and the path that we are on. as director haley mentioned, the buses that he -- many of the ones that we have recently bought as well as any that we do buy going forward would be convertible to all electric. so if the state is such that by 2023 we cannot make an all electric procurement because the technology is not adequate at that time, even in that case the buses that we purchased at that time would be convertible to all electric as are more than 200 buses that we have today. we are very hopeful as our -- the speakers that will be in a position that we can do not just technology neutral procurement in 2023 but an all electric

procurement. we believe the resolution as it stands is the appropriate target. we would rather i guess underpromise and over deliver and in the future we can bring that back then that's great. the end date the 2035 date is really the critical one which as director haley said puts us ahead of the state resources board target. >> chairman brinkman: yes. >> one of the concerns is being confined in what we are doing. obviously what we do want to make sure is we have enough buses to meet the needs of the riders and that thing. so i don't have a problem with a proposed timeline as i understand it. as i also understand this plan, this is not a situation where we are going to in any way sacrifice capacity. i mean, because of coursevens - obviously the most important thing is getting people back on the buses and