all right. good morning, ladies and gentlemen. i want to welcome you to the budget and finance committee. we have a late start, hopefully make up as we move forward. apologies, recognize our clerk, mr. victor wong, serving with us today. also recognize adrian starks and michael balthazar. the screens on our desks are not showing the chamber, like a

screen saver. never mind. there, we fixed it. no more technical difficulties. let's get on with the party. adrian starks, michael, thank you for assisting us. recognize my colleagues on the committee, supervisor sandy fewer on my right, my left, supervisor stefani and supervisor yeah. >> silence all cell phones and electronic devices. completed speaker cards and documents should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the june 5th board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. i believe supervisor sheehy has noted he is unable to attend today's meeting. >> that's correct. what i would like to do, make a motion to excuse supervisor sheehy. take that motion, seconded by supervisor yee and without

objection. thank you very much. supervisor sheehy a speedy recovery. call items 1, 2, and 3 together. >> clerk: item 1, hering to consider the mayor's proposed budget for selected departments for fiscal years 18-19, and 19-20. item 2 is proposed budget and appropriation ordinance for selected departments as of may 1, 2018, for fiscal years 2018-19, and fiscal years 2019-20. item number 3, the proposed annual salary ordinance for selected departments as of may 1, 2018, fiscal years 18-19, and fiscal years 19-20. >> supervisor cohen: thank you mr. clerk, appreciate that. ladies and gentlemen, i would like to call, i'm going to let you know what the departments, we are going to be calling, first the san francisco international airport, port of -- excuse me, port of san

francisco, the s.f. library, s.f.m.t.a., environment, public building inspection and public utilities commission. so -- we can begin with the international airport. thank you, welcome back. >> good morning. thank you, madam chair. members of the board, thank you for coming back and addressing any follow-up questions you may have. i believe you are in receipt of our written response to a number of the questions raised last week in the budget hearing and if it pleases the committee, i would like to walk you through the analysis we did on the -- >> yes. >> on the police department staffing. you'll see on the first page a lot of the analysis was based, the 0 based analysis based on a number of factors and see the factors relate to the significant growth we have seen since 1997 to 2017, and probably

most meaningful is the column on the right that talks about the percent change in the factors, and it's a function of the growth we have experienced and some of the impacts that it's had. you can also see it, our request as a function of the new facilities that we have opened since this time, and those are also listed on the page. many of the projects related to the airport capital improvement program of the late 1990s and early 2000, and the projects underway related to the $7.2 billion capital program. on page 2 of the analysis, some metrics we looked at. the first being the increase in passenger and plane, and the

growth, the line is the budgeted officers that we have experienced since 1997 to current. and then the bars are the passenger growth we have experienced. so you can see that the officer count has not kept pace with the growth and passengers over time. and then below that, another metric is the amount of terminal space, the amount of coverage required of the officers to patrol and we have experienced significant additional square footage. you can see the numbers there and the number of a metric of square footage per officer, we were at 20,000 square feet per officer in 1997, and today we are at about 36,000 square feet per officer. and the next page we talk about what we are trying to achieve with the increase in staffing. and first of all, it is that

visible presence that i spoke of last time, we are also adding five new functions and you can see the list there. bicycle patrol, to get to some of the outlying areas is an important new initiative. and then also coverage of the new facilities hotel response, as well as homeless, we are seeing an increase in the number of homeless coming to the airport, and also i would point out the perimeter security and additional patrols around our perimeter. if you flip that over to page four, also traffic enforcement is becoming a more important aspect of our business so we are proposing an increase in motorcycle officers. we are also proposing to double the size of the ground transportation unit and you can see what's driving that around, just the increase in commercial, the commercial ground

transportation, largely a function of uber, lyft and the t.n.c. operations. and then if you flip over to the next page, we have some enhanced special services we are looking at to again increase the posture of the airport and be prepared for additional vulnerabilities and be able to respond as the ever changing world of terrorist threats and our ability to respond. it's important we are prepared for any type of event that may happen. and then on the last page, you can see how we -- what the 0 based staffing approach has done, and i'll just point out that with this two-year budget, we are proposing 229 officer

staffing, so it does not get us to the full complement of what the 0 based staffing, but it gets us quite a long way towards what the 0 based staffing numbers would indicate. so 0 based staffing would show a number of 278, we are getting to 229 with this budget. and with that, i would be glad to answer any questions. >> supervisor cohen: thank you very much for the presentation. colleagues, as reminder, the airport is one of those unique departments. the budget is entirely based off its revenue and thank you. because you also give a portion of its revenue to the general fund. i believe 12.7% of the budget is increased in year 1 and 10% increase in year two. does that sound right? >> yes. >> supervisor cohen: and then we have a -- increasing the number of full-time employees by 12.75, which will bring you, correct me if i'm wrong, bring you up to

almost 1500 employees. 1585.95. i don't know how you account the.95, but that's good. so, are last week we asked questions about why there were so many police officers designated or allocated, and i just want to also acknowledge that you have answered the questions and in the answer to the question is, is that the airport -- the airport has just been understaffed for several years, and that you are proposing 72 full-time police, which is about 42% of the officer pool already in existence. excuse me, 42% are officers, meaning that you are not going to be too top heavy, i think that's important. and recognize that you are paying for two work orders, two academy classes to help fund and pay for the officers that were going to be at allocating to the airport. i do have one final question. also want to recognize the

b.l.a. has indicated that their requests are reasonable. but my question for you, what changes would you be able for the pick-up plan, specifically about uber and lyft at the corner. how will that be reconciled moving forward at the airport? >> try a couple initiatives in an incremental way, both the traffic congestion and the curb side congestion. >> supervisor cohen: are you actively working to solve the congestion problem? >> we are, we are. we are working -- with uber and lyft currently around a premium pricing model for curb side access, and so try to have an incentive to use the garage, a premium fee a dollar, up to $2 if they use the curb. we have more dramatic initiatives as well to make sure we solve the issue, which is at some point we may move all of the pick-ups into the garage.

right now we have a project underway that is resurfacing the fifth floor of the garage, that would be the dedicated area for staging. we will be preds to make that move if need be as we prepare for the summer season to see how much congestion remains after we try the incentive approach to use of the garage. >> supervisor cohen: when do you plan to roll this program out? >> we started now with the working with them on any changes we need to make to their app, to make this happen and help designate where other pick-up opportunities are, so another initiative, can we spread people across the doors, they congregate at certain doors, and so we are doing that right now. premium pricing into effect july 1st, and then by late summer we'll be ready to make that more substantial move of

pick-ups into the garage. >> supervisor cohen: thank you. recognize supervisor yeah. >> supervisor yee: thank you, chair cohen. can you clarify, the numbers, i have different numbers here. on the slide, it talks about 229, and then i'm looking, this slide says 229 showed. and i'm looking at the report on page three, and this is 255. proposed f.t.e.s, 255. can you tell me -- >> on page three of that, let's see -- >> supervisor yee: b.l.a.

report. i'm sorry, one sec, supervisor. apologies, supervisor. >> supervisor yee: even before you get to that, in your mind, you are trying to increase the number of staffing for policing by how many? >> trying to go from 142 officers to 229 over the next two years. those are the key numbers. and then our baseline report says the appropriate number is 278, but we are trying to get to 229 over the next two years.

>> supervisor yee: include other positions, would it be more than that? >> those are just the officers, patrols and traffic management folks. >> supervisor yee: so that's -- and increase of about 70, 60, 70, 80, 80 or so. ok. >> yes, sir. >> supervisor yee: the question i have is in regards to gearing up to increase those numbers, is over a two-year period. >> that's correct. that happens in the second year, essentially happens in the second year. >> supervisor yee: and you are offering to pay for how many training classes? >> a total of four. i believe there are two that are allocated costs where we will get not all of the academy class and then two dedicated airport classes. >> supervisor yee: ok.

that's fine. just want to make sure that we are covering what we need to cover so that it does not deplete the existing police force or in the city of san francisco. >> thank you. >> supervisor fewer: thank you very much for answering those questions. i wanted to know, what are the number of motorcycle officers that you hope to have at the airport? >> i'm going to have to ask the deputy chief. >> we have one in six and hoping to go to 2 and 10, a broader coverage across the week and also hours of the day. >> do you also pay for the equipment, motorcycles, the vehicles? >> yes. >> supervisor fewer: airport

pays for the vehicles dispatched out there. and if you ever explored whether or not there would be cost savings if you had the san francisco sheriff's department take over some of the duties. such as the curb management or some of the garage surveillance, i looked on your thing. so, have you ever thought about having, you know, i think that in the city and county of san francisco, in the city of san francisco, is that we would all like to have more police officers at our district stations and out in the streets in san francisco. and so when i see that you are beefing it up to 229 officers, sworn officers, that sheriff's are also peace officers in the state of california. wondering if they could be taking over some of the duties at a lower cost and also relieve some of the uniformed folks out to our district stations. >> one of the issues that we have with that is we actually

are in san mateo county and law enforcement services to see that authority to us. we have to start that conversation with the san mateo county sheriff. >> supervisor fewer: would there be a cost saving? >> it's a math question. >> i'm horrible at math actually, also. ok. that's just a question. and then please explain to me again a little bit more in-depth about starting january 1st, july 1st you are hoping you are going to be introducing premium pricing for just t.n.c.s or also for taxi drivers? >> just the t.n.c.s, and just the low occupancy vehicles of the t. n.c. so, we would not subject the high occupancy vehicles like charter busses and other, those fees. so, just the t.n.c.s with the 1 or 2 riders, typically. >> supervisor fewer: have we

ever looked into maybe a partnership with m.t.a. around bart service out to the airport and some sort of incentive to, for people to take part out there? >> we do offer an employee incentive through the money that we give them every month, if they give up their parking spot. and we have seen great, really uptick in migration of people taking bart, particularly employees. we have not looked at other options with the m.t.a. that i'm aware of. we would be glad to explore that. >> supervisor fewer: i think you said 800,000 trips out to the airport, t.n.c.s. and seems as though we probably should be thinking about some incentives to get people to take public transportation out there. and then i just wanted to know, when you say that we are thinking about putting all the pick-ups in the garage, does

that include taxis also, or just the t.n.c.s? >> the taxi operation would stay where it is, at the lower level, at the median curb. so, we are really talking about uber and lyft. we would also offer that to the passengers as an express pick-up and dropoff and probably will increase the length of free access, so right now it's ten minutes free access for the public. we would probably look at increasing that to 20 minutes or so. to try to move some of that traffic as well. >> supervisor fewer: thanks. and you see in the one, you have 12.7% increase and in your 2, 10% increase. would you ever think about eliminating the pick-up fees for taxis? >> you know, we are unable to do that because of the model of the allocation model and the cost recovery that we need to achieve through our financial analysis. so what we do, we spread it around and make a fair base for everyone to pay their fair

share. unable to offer free access. >> supervisor fewer: any other ideas for incentive for people to take public transportation or taxis versus t.n.c.s out to the airport? >> you know, i think we have a good partnership with bart and there are some avenues to explore there, potentially. and so i'll reach out to the bart folks and what are those opportunities. i can't think of any off the top of my head, but that's something that we could explore. >> yeah, i said -- i meant bart. i think if there was a financial incentive to take bart out to the airport, that maybe more passengers would do that instead of t.n.c.s. those are the majority of them, single occupancy probably going out there, too. ok. thank you very much. >> ok, thank you. >> supervisor cohen: anything else?

>> no, thank you. >> supervisor cohen: thank you very much. the next department we will hear from is the san francisco port. >> supervisor cohen: i'm sorry, turn on your mic. ok, they are on now. yes, i do want to hear from the b.l.a. i read your mind. yes. >> you did read my mind. madam chair, members of the committee, referring to the airport's physicians as shown on pages 3 and 4 of our report, and supervisor yee's numbers, provided by the airport to our office. we know that the number of sworn officers in the airport would increase from about 39%, from

184 to 255.69, that's full-time equivalent positions. the largest increases among the police officers specifically, the lieutenants were increased by 1.54, sergeants 10.77, and police officers 59.38 for a 71.69% increase. we also report that in 18-19 and 19-20, the airport proposed budget includes 11.7 million and 12.2 million respectively to fund 120 slots in three police academies and ten lateral officer hires for 133 new police officer positions. page four of the report we note in 19-20, the airport plans for a similar number of slots, academy of classes for new recruits and lateral police

officer hires, but the dates of the academy classes are not yet known. supervisors, i would report that we will do further analysis of this matter in the june budget and that's related to the police department's budget. as you know, these positions are included in the police department's budget. now, regarding the overall budget of the airport, on page five of our report, our recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 3,416,184, in 18-19, of that amount, 2,407,158, ongoing saving, and there are one-time savings, still allow increase of 121,620,000, or 12.3% and the year 18-19 budget. and i've already gone over the

police department item, we would say at this time it's a policy matter for the board of supervisors on that item. and, but i also mentioned that we will do further analysis in june. for fiscal year 19-20, recommended reductions to the total, 2,672,299, of that amount, 2,438,049, ongoing savings. and there are one-time savings, reductions would allow increase of 108,256,596, or 9.7% in the department's 19-20 budget. as i understand it, the department concurs with our recommended reductions which are shown on pages 6-16, and happy to respond to any questions. >> supervisor cohen: one question for you. i was under the impression there were officers already in the academy, two academy classes

were already underway, and that these officers would be allocated to the airport in september. >> yes, i think that's correct. i think that's in the report. i believe there are 20 that are underway that would be allocated. this is an enhancement, i have to look back in the report, i think we give the numbers in our report. >> ok. thank you very much. thank you, mr. rose, appreciate your presentation. colleagues, any questions? supervisor yee? >> supervisor yee: not to him. not to mr. rosenberg. but a general question. maybe trying to get to this earlier in terms of my concerns, i think last time we -- >> supervisor cohen: he -- whoever is representing the airport come forward. >> supervisor yee: i'm a little concerned, and maybe more appropriate to the police

department. but as, because i heard somebody say the last time we had this discussion that many of the police officers that get assigned to the airport, because of seniority, many of them are not your people that are coming out off the academies, meaning, i'm a little concerned, because what we are doing is all of a sudden we are having a big drain on possibly a big drain on the seasoned police officers in the city of san francisco and having a lot more rookies percentage-wise in san francisco. if it's true that many of the seasoned police officers want to just transfer over to the airport, it may not be true, but if it is, it's a big concern of mine. >> supervisor cohen: ok. so, any time an officer moves.

>> a sergeant or officer, after probation, it is because they have put their name on a list to request to be moved. officers do it all the time, sign up to go to richmond, or wherever they are going to go. one of those lists is the airport. the chief of police, with however many officers that person has, has to decide operationally where they are going to send officers from the pool they have. the airport is one of those places that needs officers. but to make sure that the city does not fall behind in officers by filling the obligation to staff the airport, the airport is funding classes so that there will be officers in the city. and it is true that when the officers transfer down to the airport, that they are coming from the more senior ranks. but that's true for any officer that transfers anywhere in the city, if they move from northern to the richmond, they are coming

off a seniority list. so you are always moving the senior officers around. but in this case, you are establishing a pool that supports that movement. >> supervisor yee: and thank you for that explanation. i guess what is the nuances of this, you are asking the airport is asking for basically in two years 70 new assigned people, meaning richmond district station is not going to ask for 70 more new officers. it may be they increase it by 5 or 10 or whatever. so, my concern is we are taking 70 senior officers off the streets of san francisco to the airport. no fault of the airport. so, i don't have a solution, but maybe the police department is aware of that already. >> right. i mean, we do -- what we do is, that's an excellent question.

what we do is we look at, so, myself as the deputy chief of the airport and the deputy chief of operations, who oversees patrol and investigations, when we are timing out the transfer, we are looking across the year so we say all right, let's move these people in these groupings so that we don't create a sudden drain up in the district stations and what events are going on during, throughout the time of the year, so we time it when we can move people, train them up into the airport because as you know, it takes a little training to then convert to san mateo county protocols, we map out how the transfers happen to mitigate that effect on the districts. and they are pulling from ten areas of the city and also from investigations and also from special operations, so that the impact can be spread out across the board, across the year and across the -- >> supervisor cohen: reality, it's not a decision you

necessarily make, it's a decision the chief of police makes. we heard yesterday in the rules committee hearing, we talked about language access, and we did have some conversations around senior members of sfpd. heck, when i come off the board of supervisors i'm joining the team, who does not want to go to the airport. so i completely understand. i think i have -- kathy, carry my message. oh, there he is, ok. so, but, so, i echo the concerns, too. we don't want all of our rich resource knowledge base going out to the airport and i'm not implying that they are hanging out, the airport is very high stress area as well, they are not going to chill, right? >> that is quite true. they are not there to chill. >> supervisor cohen: but you do understand our concern, we represent different neighborhoods, different

environments and we also want the benefit of the senior members of the police department to be out on the streets, to be patrolling, in my mind, senior members would know how to handle tense situations in a more efficient manner than some of the new rookies, naturally, like the rookies on my board. and a rookie over here. they look to us veterans to show them how to hold it down and how to do it, it's just natural. i was a rookie once, you were a rookie once, and you just keep at it. i'm sure you can understand our concern. i understand completely what you are saying supervisor yee, but unfortunately, i don't know if we can address it in the budget but probably can begin to address it in our discussions with the chief as well as maybe through the police commission which is the poll at this authority for the commission. thank you. >> and if you could keep in mind the same process that brings officers down to the airport

also returns officers back to the city. so, our officers get notified that their opportunity to transfer back up to the city comes up, and some take advantage and move back to work in the city. so, there is an ebb and flow of experience that comes back and forth. >> supervisor cohen: thank you very much. any other questions? all right. >> supervisor fewer: you know, i -- so, deputy chief, not about you, personally, but i do have sort of this question about why a deputy chief is needed out at the airport when you have a commander. i just think that why would we have a, you know, a deputy chief out at the airport. i just think the command staff is pretty heavy out there, and i know that you are the deputy chief out there, so i know this is a very awkward conversation.

but just why would we need a deputy chief out there? seems you already have a commander, you have captain, you have a lot of lieutenants and you are adding lieutenants on and also a lot of sergeants. so, why would we need a deputy chief out there? >> so, the deputy chief meets first with the airport director and also the director of operations and security facilities and also the senior staff to make sure the mission is carried out but the three separate bureaus. also meets with the sheriff and the police association members regularly to make sure the county policies we meet the obligations, that they don't infringe on san francisco policies and police department policies specifically. we, we serve to ensure that the federal agencies that are out there keep, that the police department operates in the

guidelines of how the federal agencies operate, that the -- that where we come up against each other follows the policies of the city and county of san francisco and the police department. and it's a very, very busy place, you know. 65 million budget to manage, all the materials, the training, the management of personnel. the commander position meets regularly with the captain, and reports up. the deputy chief meets with the budget director and the fiscal side of the airport to make sure that all stays in line. so, there's a lot of functions the technology division of the airport, pretty much falls directly under the deputy chief and we meet with the airport technology side. so, there is a lot of administrative function that goes into the task, and there's a lot of investigative patrol and traffic investigation and special operations that falls

mostly to the commander through his captains. >> supervisor fewer: ok. you are telling me it's more of a high level administrative coordination and oversight of the airport and something that a commander can't do. >> it's the -- it's the 3, 5, 10-year planning position for the police department at the airport. how do the changes at the airport industries, having to carry out all the projects they have going, the capital improvement projects, building of the airport hotel, the expansion of the air train, all of these long-term capital improvement projects or construction projects, retail projects, how those are going to impact the demands on the police department and then part of my job to convey that to the chief of the police through my assistant chief and make sure the chief of police is aware of what the priorities are down at the airport. and what opportunities there are to partner with the airport to make sure the city does not bear

an unfair share of that expense. >> supervisor fewer: ok. thank you. >> you are welcome. >> supervisor cohen: thank you. deputy chief, i have a question for you. just over here, though. over here, a side bar. so, at this time we have heard the b.l.a. presentation and i would like to make a motion to -- wait, we have to take public comment. public comment on items 1, 2, and 3? public comment is closed. thank you. i would like to make a motion to accept the recommendations from the budget legislative analysts. is there a motion? motion made by supervisor yee, take that without objection. thank you. excuse me, i would like to table item 1 and continue items 2 and 3 to the call of the chair, my apologies. >> supervisor yee: are we going to call other departments before performing that function? >> supervisor cohen: good idea, absolutely. my notes are hard for me to understand this morning.

yes. we need to hear from the port. rescind the vote. we'll do that unanimously. thank you. port of san francisco. >> good morning, supervisors. my name is katy patricione, deputy director of finance for the port, here on behalf of our executive director, elaine forbes. i would like to say that the port is in agreement with the budget and legislative analyst's recommendations about our budget. i would like to thank mr. rose, ms. campbell and mr. hulliber for their time and attention to the budget this year. happy to answer questions. >> supervisor cohen: thank you. colleagues, do you have any questions? we have one. before you ask that question, i want to give some port

highlights. 30% of the budget, 30% budget increase in year 1 and 15% decrease in year two, minimal f.t.e. growth, like what, .87, and that has to do with -- >> annualization of prior year positions. >> supervisor cohen: the budget is really driven by the seawall and ferry capital projects. so, both very important infrastructures that our city needs. go ahead, supervisor, and then hear from the b.l.a. shortly. >> supervisor fewer: i want to know if you have plans for expansion in work force programs. >> work force development programs? in particular, we are very conscious of the fact the seawall program, knock on wood, is going to launch with i hope approval of a general obligation bond this november. and that that is going to be a very large opportunity for us in

terms of work force development. we are very committed to developing a program, probably in partnership with the office of economic and work force development that really does, i hope, focus on locating and training folks from low income communities in the city and really funneling them into what are going to be a good number of high paying construction jobs when that program really does launch. >> supervisor fewer: ok. thanks. because actually, i am looking in the fiscal budget about work force development and how we can get more people actually to work and in the city department. so, thank you very much. >> supervisor cohen: seeing there are no other questions at this time, katy, we are going to go ahead and hear from the b.l.a. >> yes, madam chair and members of the committee. on page 29 of our report,

recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 581,336 in 2018-19, and of that amount, 270228 are ongoing savings and 311108 are one-time savings. still allow an increase of 40.5 million, 40,571,055, or 30.5% in the 18-19 budget. recommended reductions total 576,483 in 19-20, and that amount, ongoing savings, and 1831350 are savings, and does concur with the recommended reduction, shown on pages 30 through 33. >> supervisor cohen: i have a question about the programmatic

cuts. what was the process that you went through to determine which programs you were going to be taking from? >> collaboration with the port, understanding where they had some excess capacity. >> supervisor cohen: and done to control growth? >> that's -- yes. >> supervisor cohen: ok, all right. >> also, supervisor, we base it on prior experience as well. and projected expenditures. >> supervisor cohen: i know, that's what makes you so wonderful, prior experience. you are the best. all right. that's good. so, i appreciate that. colleagues, do you have any questions, anything about the problematic cuts or the port budget? all right, thank you. we will continue moving forward. san francisco library. >> madam chair, may i call the associated item? >> supervisor cohen: yes, you may. call item 4. >> clerk: resolution authorizing the san francisco public library to accept the grant in the amount of $813,350 of in-kind

gifts, services and cash monies, from direct support for a variety of public programs and services in fiscal years 2018-19. >> supervisor cohen: thank you. welcome. yes. >> good morning, chair cohen, supervisors. thank you again for the opportunity to present the library's fy-19-20 budget last week. finalized the reductions with the board's analysts and we are in full agreement with their recommendations. i would like to thank the board's analyst, hampton smith, sefrin campbell and menard for the time and help. and jillian johnson and kelly kirkpatrick from the mayor's budget office for your guidance, and special thanks to the controller's office for your ongoing support. maureen singleton and i are here today and more than happy to answer any questions you may

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