>> tuesday, june 5 meeting nciheo eer tabment commission. my name is brian tan. happy election day. hopefully everyone has one of these stickers. if not, you still have until 8:00. a few things before we go through before we start the meeting. please turnoff your cell phones or leave themon vibrate so they don't interrupt you when we are speaking. if you are a member of the public and would like to speak, we have speaker cards up front. you can also just come up to the front when i call for

public comme and gthen cue. thank you for sfgov for airing this services meeting every time we meet. let's start with the roll call. >> clerk: okay. [rll]oll ca >> we have a quorum. rno. ve -- no longer have a law enforcement seat is absent,atla vacant, and then, vice president thomas is excused. >> all right. so the first item of order is general public comment. this is for any pub co red business of the san francisco entertainment commission. is there any public comment? there is none, so public comment is closed. move on it item number two, the approval of meeting minutes. crystal did note for us that

the minutes currently state it's tuesday, may 1, but that's just a typo. it should be tuesday, may 15. other than that, unless there's take a motion.anges, i'm happyo >> move to approve the minutes. >> all right. is there a second? >> there's a minor change, i guess. >> can you -- are you willin to second it, and then, we can make some i second it,th editn item number eht. i stated, thank commissioner ost on his work and being a lead man, it should be wing while, but -- i don want to hold you to that. >> yeah. >> any other edits? if t,no is there any public

comment on our minutes? all right. seeing none, let's t a vote. [roll call] iththat, thetes pass, and we'lltotem num three, report from our acting director, ms. weiland. >> thank you, president tan, commissioners. it's been a crazylection day. so i just wanted to ta lk someekeeusng items y. i'll actually just start with scheduling, and i e-mailed you all today, so go ahead and take a look at that if you haven't already. main items are just that our upcoming hearings are going to be june 19, and then, again june 17. poke wh president tan, and he agreed that it would be wise canuly 3edu t

independance day holiday. in same vein, we are trying to reschedule our retreats since that's the saturday prior to the 4th of july. it didn't seem like that was a possible date tretreats. i sent out an e-mail. the choices would be saturday, st 14 or august 18. i just wanted to say i received a couple of responses, so thank you f that. u can't make a meeting, ance because we are down one cot'ssi ltlmore challenging tot quorum. other item i wanted to bring up was just around our sound inspector hiring an on boarding. first of all, i wanted to welcome back inspector burke.

we are so happy to have him back, and again, this is inspectorrentn. , r your hand. he mayots sitting up here with us, but he is, you know, the man out in the field right now and still in training, and so everything you're going to be hring from inspector burke tonight is a collaborative effort between those two. we did start on boarding a second part-time sound inspector recently who unfoately is no longer with ourfiorentino started

before the fiscal year starts, so he's been working almost 40 years a week, but once the new fiscal year starts, he'll be

working 20 hours a week to maybe sure he's at 1,040 hours a year, and that'll likely be the schedule of the next eat.pector, as well. thank you. is the public comment on our acting director report? okay. it doesn't look like there's any. public comment's closed. we'll movento item number five. police department comments and questions. once again, i don't see anyone here for that -- oh, i'm so sorry. item number four, i'm getting aheaof myself. the report from our sound inspectors. >> sean burke here, happy to be back, and i've got a big long list of things that mike and i have tackled. we'll start at the top. loter fest in civic center plaza, you may not have heard

about it, comedy and music. we did get couplef complaint via re wasntt via the hotline that the promoter setup. i was able to call in 311 to clusteesplaints.er to the there'sho inspections that mike and i have done since -- mike did about half of them, and then mike and i did the other half in the last two weekends. >> sean, really quick, with cluster fest, were they all sound complaints, and did the planning -- >> i'm going to refer -- [inaudible] >> -- once they heard about the complaints. >> we'll still waiting on a full rundown of the full planner.nts from another maybe mike can give us a

rundownf th oother ones. >> they were all sound related, and it was related to not the comedy but the music that was being played between the acts. >> and do we know if twere adstmen made -- >> we don't know. like sean said, once i kind of got the idea that we were going to saturday getting more complaints. that was probably around 6:00 last friday, so we had to go out on patrol, so sean was able to set that out, another planet hotline, so they were able to field those other calls. >> great. thanks. >> i'll see if i can bring more details at tharng. >> a bunch of sound tests, you'll see on the back of the page, thesre allces th passed the sound test, and they're our newest permitees.

two citations at 3910 geary. this is a place that has changed ownership many times -- well since i've been on, i think's three owners. none of them, i don't think, have been permanent -- one has be permanent, and the current wo weeks or hosting . entertainment without a p.o.e. >> i just wanted to add into that that this is actually a night that we were training inspector fiorentino, and we were out, and we went there, this was due to sever complaints to the richmond police department. we went with richmond station police officers and the fire department, and the department ended up actually shutting them down that night. we're letting you know about this in advance because these folks might actually try to come into compliance so it's

good to have that background. >> which one was that, again? >> that was 3910 geary. it's under the citations -- >>hank you. >> -- category. >> there's no name? >> yeah, they just called it the address. >> what's the cross street on that? [inaudible] >> looks like it used to be comma lounge. t > it's right >>right. >> right next to ireland's 32. >> in the back. >> the old karma lounge. >> old karma. >> there's a misprint i did want to point out on the back page, carbon, they do not have a permit with us. there's a complaint that music is shutting off at 2:00 a.m. and then restarting again at 4:00. we have visited and we were

unable totay out 4:00 nht that we visited, but we talked to management and they assured us that there was no sound coming out from there at 4:00 a.m. >> we're going to continue it monitor this because this is one of permits that the cosionote today revoc. as a part of that, they're not allowed to have live entertainment ever again, so the city has been in contact with us regarding these complaints, so we're working with the police department as well to if the having entertainment or not. >> there's a group of ongoing complaints. if youe any questions about those, please let me know. i did want to pointou we visited hue fy night to inspect the most recent changes

to their security plan. unfortunately they were closed by the time we got there for the 2:00 out. i think we arrived at about o we wer't ecurity gates and able to verify the new security conditions. let me see if there's any other inspections that i wanted to point out. s a new rooftop that we will be bringing into compliance aft a complaint. flywheel roastery is a little lcoffee shop in the haight that be bringing into compliance. that was also a neighbor complaint. bistro sf, noise complaint. we're going to try to bring them into compliance. there's a lot of compliance checks that are happening based off of sound complaints through

311. and then, tw mhat w -- one, ken cholla's, you'llee s that was one that came from a complaint, and tiptop bar, we're going to be bringing them into compliance, as well. co one we discovered after a laint, ath , one, we discovered because of that complaint across thet. great american music hall? i don't usually see them with ongoing complaints? >> we don't. we have visited great american music hall. we've talked to them about keeping doors closed, keeping drapes closed.ey he an upded d the order. last time mike and i visited, they had a very quiet show, so it was not a true test to get a plan of how much sound is

escaping, sgo w s fpiday to see what the show all of the complaints, i think it's -- it's half crowd noise outsidehen af escaping the venue. teo me how -- how you plan -- there's goi to be a lot more rooftop bars opening, a lot. and i'm just curious, how you plan t -- i k don't have, really, any standards yet for rooftop bars, right? >> we do, yeah, and that was a part of the changes to code that happened last summer. >> right. >> with jobs one work. so as a part of that process, we created six place outdoor amplified sound permit. so that's one path forward. t at you're doing

amplified sound outside. or if you are a place of entertainment or a limited live peormance space, you can amend your permit to include outdoor. we've alreadyeein that happen, or ashe ones you've been seeing recently, ghirardelli square went for an amendment. 25 west is jus amped sou outside, and the way that it works is those folks actually had to go to planning commission. they wound up going to board of appeals. they had a really long process. a included f that, they conditions regardingor and fundud ouu become essentially an oor activitarea, so that is kind of the path forward. if you pass through planning and you're approved use, you can come and get that permit from us as an overlay. >> is there a cutoff, like, 10:00 -- it's up to planning, right? >> so not necessarily. planning did definitely place in their conditions hours for

amplified sound, so that's sothatinit's c se. you could adopt those condit and just say we'll go exactly with that, or you could just scale them down. y d a't coitionsegar place, and manner from planning, then it is up to you all and it is dictated in the code what the standard set of conditions are? which i think i should just e-mail you guys to make you fully aware of that because the they require a a 10:00 p.m. , an sound test, and you basically can't have sound audible 250 feet past the property plane. there's a couple others in there that are, like, the standard, but you can always condition otherwise, and that what i think we're going to see when we see the giants come to us for a permit, when we see the warriors because they're quite large, and they're probably going to have to abide by a different standard,

different set of conditions. >> so i take it it'll be our discussion at the summit? >> yeah. what i've heard from commissioner bl commissioner bleiman is he really wants the city attorney present, and just go through a lot of code questions. >> yeah. >> that's a good idea. >> i rest. >> the -- there's, like, a last sentence, we received new complaints from playland and other venues? is that just 'causeou out time? t. >> w is that? >> so this is an are where we had a bunch of new complaints, and a whole lot of time since we were last here. so instead of having a whole nother sheet with date and time, i just wanted to make sure you were aware that these comp.ts stt was just a space saving effort. i think it's really important mo-ng forward, we'll go back to tld standard

you know, having all -- all five things addressed,ther they're permitted, description, date and time. i think that'sul for guys to know when things are happening, but just to safe space this time, i outlined them at the bottom. >> and i know you've been out, and we've had limited capacity, so -- >> these are the ones we have yet to take action on more specifically, so any complaints that we did get that we have inspections. r would be under >> exactly. yeah, ia little sised to see a couple of these guys on here, especially like midway when there's none, if any, residents around there. you don't have to get into that now. l hopefully see them -- more description next time.al right. ishere any public comment for

our sound inspector's report. seeing none, public comment's closed for that. [ gavel ]. >> we'll move onto item five. like i was saying, there's no police departm cme questions. so we'll move onto itemum ngx,nd possible actions regarding applications for permits. first is our consent agenda. >> okay, commissioners, so i'll be brief with consent agenda. we have stey's club moderne on calendar for an l.l.p., and we have secession art and design, which is also going for we di not receive any complaints about either of them, we just received support, and the police department for both of these didn't even offer any additional io the, theare onhe consent agenda. so we have the owners here from both of them, so if you want to

pull them off onto regular, just let me know. >> i can just say for the record, i actually sold stookey's club moderne to them. it was a club i used to own. isxtremely solid building, a i guarantee you we made a totally lot more noise in there than they did. it was a different environment, and totally more raucous. >> it doesn't look like there's any objection, so i want to make a motion to approve the consent calendar. >> motion to approve the -- i'll entertain a motion to approve the consent calendar. >> okay. there's a motion to approve the consent calendar. is there a second? >> second. >> okay. call the roll [roll call] >> the motion passes. good luck. we'll move onto our regular agenda, 6-c, ichi pub. >> yes.

so the first on our regular agenda is ichi pub, and this is on first street by japantown. they're going for a place innen tainment permit. this is a change in ownership, they used to be milo lounge, and they want to do karaoke. i want to give the owner a big thumbs up, applause. he hasow made it in theanks of one of two people since i've been here to get every single inspection done by the date of this hearing. yea, kevin. there are a few pd conditions that i've sent his way, so you should take a look at those, and let us know if you have any questions. kevin, why don't you come on up to the podium and let the commissioners know about your business. >> good evening. my name's kevin -- sorry. so i took over milo lounge, and

we re it had to ichi pub. it's right directly in japantown, right across the street from the japantown plaza. all the surrounding area's all rchant, so i d't see any residential around the area. the closest one is probably closest residential.yhe two karaoke rooms out there, sobeay one of those i'll be renting out whenever it's ssible, of course. i did look at the security -- well, the police conditions. the security camera, i did update of them. i have a total of 16, two on the exterior door, one at the back , at the ence comg in, so i kind of took care of that condition before this evening came up, because of course i want to make sure that all my stuff is

up to date, too. and about the two security on friday-saturday, which i can work with, so i don't have any issue with the police department there, what they put on the conditions,h.ea >> okay. great. i don't -- do you already have two security guards planned for your place? >> yeah, on friday and saturday. >> on friday and saturday? that seems kind of excessive for a karaoke bar. >> i agree. >> same conditions as lounge, though, so i think that's what he was basing it off of. >> okay. well, if you feel comfortable with that, then, we can work with that. >> hi. thanks for coming. so i just wanted to make sure the doors from the karaoke room

have windows so peop can peek in. >> yeah. >> and with regards to your neighborhood contact, can you just explain little bit more since -- >> well, i did meet with t neighborhood. as you can see there's one letter from mochi,ch is like three buildings next to me. meet with the director, told him kind of what's going on there. they're actually pretty excited, too, they said oh, we can probably have some of these elderly event for karaoke. the system that i have, it has japanese karaoke songs, because karaoke, it's more japanese elderly, so hopefully we'll have a chance to work with th besides with me doing the a.b.c., sending out the letter, no, but i did some light

outreach in the neighborhood, but i did speak to my neighbors next to me next door at the playground. they do the same thing. it's a karaoke sports bar. kind of restaurants in the area. 'cause i don't serve food. i said my concept is just basically a bar. hopefully, ian bring them some businesses, when they come over to enjoy a night, yeah. >> so you're taking over this venue right from -- can you tell me, do you have any experience managing a karaoke bar before place of entertainment? >> no, not on the entertainment side. i do have law and management background because i used to manage san francisco toyota for 12 years, so hopefully, i can bring some of those sales skills over to this side. > thank you. >> i think it's great that we're asking another karaoke addition in japantown. >> i hope so, too, because part

of when people do come to japantown, the first thing they think of is either the food or karaoke, so karaoke will be pretty much the thing they talk about in japantown. >> i hope you do some moundraisers for >> we'e actually in talks, so we're working out a couple of things with them. >> that's great. >> thank you. >> my turn. so what's your position there? >> no, i'm overseeing there. bartending, i'll hopefully learn one day. >> who is your general manager. >> i have a manager. s it jie? >> julie is my bartender. >> okay. so julie, i know for a while. >> it's, like, the overseeing, too, of everything on the bartending side.

>> younow, before, they had rick in the front as security, and they used him because he a ar uoung h athe moment? >> no. i'm using co-one security. >> regetting the same clientele that they'ven havi actually, i've been getting a lot more from the kabukihote beus they do h karaoke, but they close at 9:00, so i've been getting a lot of out of town you customers. >> i'm -- out of town customers. >>'m i questioning -- because milo, we had a l-- theya

maine one guard in the front. >> we could pull back on that. that would save a lot of mpe end, but if it's something, i just have to go with it. >> do you know the square footage of your venue off the top of your head? i know it in here, too. >> about 1700, 1800, off the top of my head, but it's not a big place. >> are you planning on having entertainment outside of the rooms. >> just background music, 'cause it's more like a lounge, so i still want people to be able to communicate, so karaoke will still take place in an extra room. >> my thinking is the extra security guard would not be a condition. >> my only concern is if something were t happen, is there anybody on staff to know how to handle? >> if that's a condition, i

would probably -- >> take some training. >> yeah, take some training. >> yeah. one guy is never enough. something happens -- but you also want to protectself have some training. >> thank you. yeah, something i will look into. plus, my business hours are open until 1:30 a.m., so i still have plenty of time to start getting people out the door. >> okay. great. and kudos for you to getti all your permits in order. we often don't see that, as maggie said. all right. it doesn't appear there are other questions. i'll move for public comment. i don't see think there is any, is there any public comment on ichi? all right. there being none, public comment is closed. all right. do any commissioners want to

make a motion. >> i move to approve the permit with the change of one security guard in the front, and -- and some training for the owners to back up this guard. but the guard has to have a guard card and -- through the company, so that's the motion i propose, and all the rest of the conditions from the po >> all right. so you move to approve this permit with the police conditions, with the modification of -- >> one security. >> one security guard. is there a second? >> second. >> all right. there's a second. let's take a vote. [roll call] >> motion passes. good luck. move onto item 6-d, which is permit for city club. >> okay. so city club, this one, i have on the regular agenda even though it's limited live perfnce - well, i think

the fact they have three permit applications kind of justifies putting it on regular. they have mechanical amusement device and mechanical and billiard device, as well. tontall attention to the police department conditions, first and foremost, so go to the last page for this item. i actually received these verbally today from permit officer medina from mission station, and so i have shared e with the owner, and she just has issue with one of them, in regard to number four. they're, you know, limiting the days and hours of entertainment here on the front end, and they're doing that because of the fact that they have told me that they received several sound complaints from this particular area? and i think that they are concerned with receiving more

due to live entertainment occurring at this premises, although the owner really only plans to have the entainmen occasionally. so she has said that she's okay with this, but providing prior notice would be very challenging when her business model is to do this on an occasional basis, and it may be that they decide to do it the day before. so you may want to speak with her about changing the wording of that. but i will go ahead and bring her up, janice. >> is it okay with the denial of the mechanical amusement device? >> yes. >> did the police give any reason why they would deny a pin ball machine? >> comes from a gambling basis. so she did not provide me any documentation of previous complaints with this business? but just to give more background, janice owned a premises right down street

ab t 30 years that hd billiard parlor and mechanical amusement device. >> yeah. i asked them to take the -- >> could you just speak into the microphone. >> oh . i asked permit officer medina to take the mechanical devices. >> okay. so you're pulling your request for that. >> yes. i want the pool tables, which i've had all these years. and with the limited entertainment, my business is predominately latino, and they're restaurant workers. they're chefs, they're waiters, and their days off are sunday-monday, and i sponsor a and so on sunday afternoons, they like to come in and celebrate with their wives and friends, so the entertainment

thing would be -- if i have it once a month, that's going to be a lot, you know? and i'd like to keep it on a sunday afternoon basically because all the displacement in the mission district, i feel they've suffered enough, and they should have something from their culture bece sundays, mexicans celebrate, and they call it tadiada, which is they come and dance and have a few drinks and stuff, and i'd like to keep that in. i get upt when i think of all the displacement, and for me, being moved after 31 years, i didn't like it at first. i hated it. i was upset. me at 75 years old having to pick upookn fornother place, but then, i've come to realize that i think it a good thing. i think it will cleanup the

area and the neighborhood, and i'm happy to be getting out of that corner because i have been a slave not only to the front busyess but to the half of the block which i have continuoly painted, pressure washed, and everything. so i'm so happy that i found this place with a wonderful landlord. and in fact, my rent is going to be $1,000 less than what i pay, and 250 square foot more. >> so you're taking the ceqa which is at the corner and going down the right. >> right across the street a half a block. >> and you're going where the star board techno was. >> exactly. i bought patty's place, which was a very sad, sad situation. put nine months and all her money into it and lost it. >> yeah. it didn't last very long. i lived for just over a year at

shotwell and 16th street. i'm curious, where the police said those complaints were coming from? was it coming from slate? >> sohat was a very interesting conversation because i said that's our role to be able to respond to our ts fcoermane establishments, you should let us know. she said o okay, and i also asked for a list anyfrentur complaints, but i haven't received that? so i don't have the data you l and i know you love i ta. th know respond to besri mediating with the police department. they actually started off, the captain wanted an outright nia permit in general because they feel as though residential -- there's so much more residential, and n ect neigbors, and said that's what the planning depa --rtnt ok

so you get the point. >> yeah, interesting. >> i think what they mean by that, the e,is because from 16th and allie, up towards valencia, that's where all the noise it.. wher i'm at, slate is next door. >> yeah, 16th and mission, anyone who's gone there knows how vra that area is. >> yeah, and further up. in my -- >> so yeah, hink -- have you received many complaints about city club specifically? >> never. 30 years, and i was very active in the neighborhood association untilesse busin started falling out, and our secretary moved out, but i would spear ad chrtmas parties for these 75 children that lived in those s.r.o.'ort

yes, until things kind of fell apart. and when the w fr karitas il ask me, i order them roses. mae used to do a and easter. i give back a lot. >> tsreat. that's wonderful. coonerleiman? >> this is a question for the director and inspector burke. do we get a lot ofomplaints from slate? how often do we get complaifro? ist on the docket? >> i remember the last... omm csionere? >> so do you alou anical amusement, that includes j includes jukebox. >> no. >> no, no, no. udesnot at ok. . x.uke

i could have sworn it's all mixed in. did too. belii e you didn't need a per f being with the noise. >> so what sound system are you planning on having for the -- >> you see, this ist. it's not a big band, it's not a big band w amplifiers and thati that. it's maybe a trio. >> so live entertainment. >> yeah, where they come around and sing happy birthday. it's not a formal band where you have acoustics and all of that. basicall sealing rigceiling ri

bar? is it sheet rock? is it open rafters, you can see the beam? >> no, there's no draft -- there's no rafters or anything. >> like, sheet rock? >> sheet rock, and there's beams, and it's retrofitted ready and stuff. >> yeah. sometimes we're just concerned about the music inside. >> oh, i know. i understand it completely and ifre is complaint, i will take care of it. >> okay. let me just make a comment. since you've been a business for over 30 years. >> 31. >> and you've been so good to the community, you can go to the small business commission and apply for legacy business. >> for what? legy business. >> oh, i know that. >> it's a lot of paperwork, but it's worth it, and let me tell you why. >> paperwork?

i'm 75 years old. >> it'll help you take care of it. >> oh, i know that. >> and moving to a new location isn't that bad. i've dealt with that in chinatown -- [inaudible] >> i've had to do that, build another bar, a storeroom. >> i think the neighborhood will embrace you and know you actually better. >> the whole neighborhood knows my business. >> so you're going to do way better, and you can retire happy. >> i'm trying to leave a legacy for my granddaughter. i brought her into the corporation with me. >> let her fill out the paperwork. but at the end, the city supports you. >> the community has been very good to me, and i've always taken care -- i respect the fact that -- i think it's an honor to have a liquor license,

and i don't want to abuse it. >> do you serve just beer and wine or full liquor? >> full liquor. i'd starve with beer and wine. >> i understand. >> he does understand. okay. i don't know if there's any further comments from commissioners? why don't you have a seat, and then, we'll open it up for public comment. it doesn't seem there's anyone here for that. >> would it be fine if i just -- you know, like, if i -- i won't have a planned agenda for when i'm going to have music. i might know a week ahead of time. is a week sufficient to e-mail -- >> generally, it is, and the earlier, the better, just so they can deploy people if they need to. >> i will, but it's just such a casual thing, i mean, when and if. >> the way you're talking about your programming isn't, like, you're hosting nightly concerts

and things like that. so that kitype of conditions i generally for things like that, versus what you're describing, a roving mariachi band or loan guitarist. i think the more notice you can provide us and to the police, the better. there's some education that needs to happen with us and mr. -- or officer medina around some of these conditions to sort of figure out, you know, not just for you but all of the mission area, if they're going to suggest conditions like this to us in the future. but that's another topic for another time. why don't you have a seat, and we can take a motion after hearing from public comment. is there any public comment on

city club? all right. no public comment. public comment will be closed. [ gavel ]. >> yeah? >> before we take a motion, i just have some thoughts here that are coming to my mind. i have a lot of respect for the san francisco police department, but i don't personally like how they just kind of blanket condition in areas that they think they should or should not without any real hard data behind it. so not that i'm offended by this, but i think that we have to take what they suggest here in the light of how they suggested it and the lack of data. we've seen manition situations where the police bring extensive data for what they're requesting and verbally communicating the director the day of, and blanket requiring us to do things is not the way they should be doing business. it's not the best thing for us. i don't think we should hold this against the police

department. one thing that comes to my mind, this is a long time business owner who qualifies as a legacy business owner in san francisco. female color owned businesses, it's exactly the type of businesses that are diing right now, that's been forced to move to a new space. to me, entertainment that she's suggesting right now, it seems really important to her, but what if the business isn't working out the way for her that she intends in the new space. i would be apt to provide for flexibility in the area. even limition to four days a month, she says she's only going to do four days a month, but what's the harm if she wants to have a mariachi band on saturday, and maybe there's a new team that wants to come in on saturdays? to me, i don't know what's the harm on that if we're just granting entertainment to

people seven days a week constantly. to me, if i were to entertain a motion in this, it would give more flexibility for sure, not to throw it in the police department's face, but for the reasons i just said so. >> yeah, and i think we haven't done a lot of edited of police conditions in the recent period of time, and i think we always have the right to modify them, to reject them. i agree, i think, you know, as a former neighbor just up until a month ago, i walk by this stretch of 16 street all the time, and i think that the city club was a great asset to the neighborhood, and that particular block, even though it's just a block away, could use some life to it. i don't -- there's, like, homeless people in the street that make noise. i don't know what the c.a.d. record is on things around there, so i can't speak to that, but anecdotally, i didn't

notice a problem, and i think breathing some life and some night life and giving the latino community a place to gather is very important. so with that, i'm very supportive of this permit and of modifying these police conditions to actually not limit any of their dates or times of operation. so would anyone like to make a motion? >> i'd like to motion to approve this without -- i'm sorry, to approve the permit without limiting any of the dates or the times that they can provide live music, provided they follow by the good neighbor policy and do everything else. that's my motion. >> so it sounds like you would support approving with police conditions one, two, and three, and striking four and -- i guess keeping five because they have -- sounds like they've

chosen to not want that. >> yes. >> okay. great. >> do you want to include noticing to p.d. and entertainment commission? >> yeah, i think i would, within a week, so giving the police and entertainment commission a calendar of events within one week in advance. >> okay. great. there's a motion. is there a second? >> second. >> seconded by commissioner caminong. let's take a vote. >> clerk: okay. [roll call] >> motion passes. good luck. look forward to coming by someday. [applause] >> you're welcome. we'll move onto item number seven, our very last item. commissioner comments and questions. so commissioners, anyone have final thoughts you want to say? >> final thoughts?

going back on the -- you know, i think, in my experience, they always will go -- the police will always go based on what they gave to the prior owner without really thinking about the new owner, and sometimes, you know, new owners take over because the old owner was a bad owner. i think it's up to us to figure that out case by case, especially if we're familiar with the place. and if we didn't have any complaints prior in a while, so i'm always -- i know audrey used to do that a lot, you know, changing police conditions. so, i mean, i'm all supportive of police and public safety, but at the same time, as industry members, we have to give the new industry, the new generation a chance to run their business. that's why they're here.

>> yeah. to their credit, i think the police have scaled back and tried to standardized it more. i think we would say look what the standard conditions are, what the good neighbor policy is, and figure out why you would want to add these other weird conditions. >> which is definitely what i did. and i think if you see any other of the applications that have come in in her station, she normally just stamps an approval and doesn't add any conditions, so this kind of surprised me, as well. >> other commissioner comments on that topic or other topics? i'm just going to reiterate for the record, we will be cancelling the first meeting in july. our meetings are the first and third tuesdays of the month. that's so that people can not have to worry about rushing over here, getting quorum, right before july 4. and the next meeting in july is

july 17. and as a reminder, we will be holding president and vice president elections at that time. so if anyone's interested in taking the reins, let's talk. i'm also happy to continue being president, if that's what we choose. but i think we should -- you know, i think i've been president for the last four years, which i have really enjoyed doing, but i think having a rotation is also a good thing, and i think we all can consider that. so if everyone can consider that, and if you're kind of curious a little bit more about what the president does, i'm sure maggie is happy to speak to you, and i am, as well. >> one more announcement. the search for the new director, we have final interviews on thursday, with -- i'm sorry, not final interviews, interviews with the finalists this thursday, and we're hoping to have a recommendation in a closed session here in the next meeting.

that would be ideal if we could pull that off. >> can i ask -- >> make sure that's on the agenda. >> yes, definitely. we'll work with commissioner bleiman. >> i just wanted to add in, as well, just condolences from the entire staff and i'm sure commission as well, to commissioner lee in the passing of your father. been thinking about you a lot. >> thank you. thank you. appreciate that. i mean, he -- he suffered from a stroke actually a year ago in may, so -- and we thought we could pump him up, and, you know, it's hard when you're 88 years old, and, i mean, president tan's gone through a family member, too, and sometimes, i was debating the last month about quality of life compared to quantity of life. i talked to all my friends, and we got a lot of response on facebook and their opinions. you know, sometimes you wonder, do you keep your loved ones

around when they've been a pretty much active person, and see them just sitting there, and they're telling you this life is for the birds, but his vitals are good, and you say well, the guy up stairs is not ready for you to go yet, and you're stuck in that crossroads. i'm happy in the sense that he went in his sleep, and he didn't have to suffer for that, and i think our whole family appreciates everybody that's said thank you and all your support, and hopefully, after saturday, we'll be all okay, you know? but i'm good. thank you so much, you know, you guys? and i'm still here, you know? business as usual, and that's how we would like it, so... >> thanks for mentioning that, miss weiland, and if there's no other comments, we'll open it up for public comment, and no one's here to see that, so this

meeting is adjourned. have a good night. happy election day, and happy pride month.

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