commissioner johnson. commissioner koppel. commissioner moore. commissioner richards. commissioner melgar. commission president hillis. so moved. the motion passes unanimously, 7-0. >> president hillis: all right, thank you very much. meeting is adjourned.

>> tuesday, june 5 meeting of the san francisco enter tabment commission. my name is brian tan. happylecton day. hopefully everyone has one of these stickers. if not, you still have until 8:00. a few things before we go through before we start the meeting. please turnoff your cell phones or leave them on vibrate so they don't interrupt you when we are speaking. if you are a member of the public and would like to speak, we have speaker cards up front. you can also just come up to the front when i call for public comment and get in the cue. thank you for sfgov for airing this services meeting every time we meet. let's start with the roll call. >> clerk: okay. [roll call]

>> we have a quorum. we have -- no longer have a law enforcement rep, no. >> yeah, so we should note that law enforcement seat is absent, vacant, and then, vice president thomas is excused. >> all right. so t first item of order is general public comment. this is for any public comment lated the business of the san francisco entertainment commission. is there any public comment? there is none, so public comment is closed. move on it item number two, the approval of meeting minutes. crystal did note for us that the minutes currently state it's tuesday, may 1, but that's just a typo. it should be tuesy, may 15. other than that, unless there's in edits or changes, i'm happy to take a motion. >> move to approve the minutes. >> all right. is there a second?

>> there's a minor change, i guess. can you -- are you willing to second it, and then, we can make some edits? >> i second it, with an edit on item number i ated,ank commissioner frost on his work and being lead man, it should be wing man. don'tant to you to ut -- that. >> yeah. >> any other edits? if not, is there any public comment on our minutes? all right. seeing none, let's take a vote. [roll call] >> with that, the minutes ss, and we'll move onto item number

three, report from our acting rect, ms. weiland. >> thank you,enttan, commissioners. it's been a crazy election day. so i just wanted to talk about some housekeeping items i'll actually just start with scheli e-mailed you all today, so go ahead and take a look at thatf y ien't already. main items are just that our upcoming hearings are going to be june 19, and then, again june 17. witi president tan, and he agreed that it would be wise to cancel july 3 due to the independance day holiday. in the same vein, we are trying to reschedule our retreats since that's the saturday prior to the 4th of july. it didn't seem like that was a possible date for the retreats.

i sent out an e-mail. the choices would be saturday, august 14 or august 18. i just wanted to say d recei a couple of responses, so thank you for that. please let us know in advance if you can't make a meeting, because we are down one commissioner, so it's a little more challenging to get t that quorum. other item i wanted to bring up was just around our sound inspector hiring an on boarding. first of all, i wanted to welcome back inspector burke. we are so happy to hve him back, and again, this is inspector fiorention. mike, raise your hand. he may not always be sitting up here with us, but he is, you know, the man out in the field right now and still in

training, and so everything you're going to be hearing from inspector burke tonight is a collaborative effort between those two. we did star on boarding a second part-time sound inspector recently who rtaty is no longer with ourfiorentino started

before the fiscal year starts, so he's been working almost 40 years a week, but once the new fiscal year starts, he'll be working 20 hours a week to maybe sure he's at 1,040 hours a year, and that'll likely be the schedule of the next inspector, as well. at. thank you. is there any public comment on our acting director report? okay. it doesn't look like there's any. public comment's closed. we'll move onto item number

five. police department comments and questions. once again, i don't see anyone here for that -- oh, i'm so sorry. item number four, i'm getting ahead of myself. the report from our sound inspectors. >> sean burke here, happy to be back, and i've got a big long list of things that mike and i have tackled. we'll start at the top. lobster fest in civic center plaza, you may not have heard about it, comedy and music. we did get a couple of complaint via 311, and there was another complaint via the hotline that the promoter setup. i was able to call into 311 to give them the number to the

cluster fest complaints. there's a whole list of inspections that mike and i have done since -- mike did about half of them, and then he le and i did the oth half t two weekends. >> sean, really quick, with cluster fest, were they all sound complaints, and did the planning -- >> i'm going to refer -- [inaudible] >> -- once they heard about the complaints. >> we'll still waiting on a full rundown of the full complaints from another planner. maybe mike can give us a rundown of the other ones. >> they were all sound related, and it was related to not the comedy but the music that was being played between the acts. >> and do we know if there were adjustments made -- >> we don't know. like sean said, once i kind of

got the idea that we were going to saturday getting more complaints. that was probably around 60 last friday, so we had to go out on patrol, so sean was able to set that out, aer planet hotline, so they were able to field those other calls. >> great. thanks. >> i'll see if i can bring more details at the next hearing. >> a bunch of sound tests, you'll see on the back of the page, these are all places that passed the sound , and they're our newest permitees. two citations at 3910 geary. this is a place that has changed ownership many times -- well since i've been on, i think there's been three owners. none of them, i don't think, have been permanent -- one has been permanent, and the current oer hasno permit.

they've been cited twice in the last two weeks or hosting entertainment without a p.o.e. >> i just wanted to add into that that this is actually a night that we wer training inspector fiorentino, and we were out, and we went there, this was due to several complaints to the richmond police department. we went with richmond station police officers and the fire department, and the department ended up actually shutting them down that night. we're letting you know about this in advance because these folks might actually try to come into compliance so it's good to have that background. >> which one was that, again? >> that was 3910 geary. it's under the citations -- >> thank you. >> -- category. >> there's no name? >> yeah, they just called it

the address. >> what's the cross street on that? [inaudible] >> looks like it used to be comma lounge. >> it's right next to -- >> right. >> right next to ireland's 32. >> in the back. >> the old karma lounge. >> old karma. >> there's a misprint i did want to point out on the back page, carbon, they do not have a permit with us. there's a complaint that music is shutting off at 2:00 a.m. and then restarting again at 4:00. we have visited and we were unable to stay out until 4:00 a.m. the night that we visited, but we talked to management and they assured us that there was no sound coming out from t

at 4:00 a.m. >> we're going to continue it monitor this because this is one of the permits that the commission vote today revoc. as a part of that, they're not allowed to have live entertainment ever again, so the city has been in contact with us regarding these complaints, so we're working with the police department as well to see if they're having entertainmennot.r >> there's a group of ongoing complaints. if you have any questions about those, please let me know. i did want to point out that we visited hue friday night to inspect the most recent changes to their security plan. unfortunately they were closed by the time we got there for the 2:00 out. i think we arrived at about 1:45, and security gates and doors were shut, so we weren't able to verify the new security

conditions. let me see if there's any other inspections that i wanted to point out. lusk is a new rooftop that we will be bringing into compliance after a complaint. flywheelster is a little coffee shop in the haight that we'll be bringing into compliance. that was also a neighbor complaint. bistro sf, noise complaint. we're going to try to bring them into compliance. there's a lot of compliance checks that are happening based off of sound complaints through 311. and then, two more that we -- one, ken cholla's, you'll see that june 1. that was one that came from a complaint, and tiptop bar, we're going to be bringing them into compliance, as ll. so one we discovered after a complaint, and then, one, we

discovered because of that complaint across the street. >> and what's up with great an mic hall? i don't usually see them with ing complaints? >> we don't. we have visited great american music hall. we've talked to them abo keeping doors closed, keeping drapes closed. they have an updated drape on the order. last time mike and i visited, they had a very quiet show, so it was not a true test to get a plan of how much sound is escaping, so we're planning on stopping by this friday to see what the show is. all of the complaints, i t it's -- it's half crowd noise outside and then half sound escaping the venue.

>> so tell me how -- h you plan -- there's going to be a lot more rooftop bars opening, a lot. and i'm just curious, how do you plan to -- i know we don't have, really, any standardset for rooftop bars, right? >> we do, yeah, and that was a part of the changeso code that happened last summer. >> right. >> with jobs one work. so as a part of that process, we created six place outdoor amplified sound permit. so that's one path forward. that just if you're doing amplified sound outside. or if you are a place of entertainment or a limited live performance space, you can amend your permit to include outdoor. we've already been seeing that happen, or as the ones you've been seeing recently, ghirardelli square went for an amendment. 25 west is just amplified sound

outside, and the way that it works is those folks actually had to go to planning commission. they wound up going to board of appeals. they had a really long process. as a part of that, theypteddo a motion that included conditions regarding outdoor and fud sound. you become essentially an outdoor activity area, so that is kind of the path forward. if you pass through planning and you're approved for that use, you can come and get that permit from us as an overlay. >> is there a cutoff, like, 10:00 -- it's up to plg, in right? >> so not necessarily. planning did definitely place irin the conditions hours for amplified sound, so that's something for that, it's case by case. you could adopt those conditions and just say we'll go exactly with that, or you could just scale them down. if they don't have any conditions regarding time, place, and manner from planning, then it is up to you all and it is dictated in the

code what the standard set of conditions are? which i think i should just e-mail you guys to make you fully aware of that because the standards are10:00 p.m. cutoff, and they require a sound test, and you basically can't have sound audible 250 feet past the property plane. there's a couple others in there that are, like, the tandar but you can always condition otherwise, and that's what i think we're going to see when we see the giants comeo us for a permit, when we see the warriors because they're quite large, and they're probably going to have to abide by a different standard, different set of conditions. >> so i take it it'll be our discussion at the summit? >> yeah. what i've heard fr commissioner bl commissioner bleiman is he really wants the city attorney present, and just go through a lot of code questions. >> yeah. >> that's a good idea.

>> i rest. >> the -- there's, like, a last sentence, we received new complaints from playland and other venues? is that just 'cause you ran out of time? >> right. >> what is that? >> so this is an area where we had a bunch of new complaints, and a whole lot of time since we were last here. so instead of having a whole nother sheet with date and time, i just wanted to make sure you were aware that these places got complaints. most of it was just a space saving effort. i think it's really important to -- moving forward, we'll go back to the old standard of, you know, having all -- all they're permitted, description, date and time. i think that's helpful for you guys to know when things are happening, but just to safe

space this time, i outlined them at the bottom. >> and i know you've been out, and we've had limited capacity, so -- >> these are the ones we have yet to take action on more specifically, so any complaints that we did get that we he visited so far would be uer inspections. >> exactly. yeah, i'm a little surprised to see aepl of these guys on here, especially like midway when there's none, if any, residents around there. you don't have to get into that now. we'll hopefully see them -- more description next time. all right. is there any public comment for our sound inspector's report. seeing none, public comment's closed for that. [ gavel ]. >> we'll move onto item five. like i was saying, there's no police department comments and questions. so we'll move onto item number six, hearing and possible actions regarding applications

for permits. first is our consent agenda. >> okay, commissioners, so i'll be brief with consent agenda. we have stookey's club moderne on calendar for an l.l.p., and we have secession artnd a design, which is also going for an l.l.p. we did not receive any complaints about either of them, we just received support, and the police department for both of these didn't even offer any additional conditions, therefore, they are on the consent agenda. so we have the owners here from both of them, so if you want to pull them off onto regular, just let me know. >> i can just say for the record, i actually sold stookey's club moderne to them. it was a club i used to own. it was an extremely solid building, and i guarantee you we made a totally lot more

noise in there than they did. it was a different environment, andotal t more raucous. >> it doesn't look like there's any objection, so i want to make a motion to approvehe consent calendar. >> motion to approve the -- i'll entertain a motion to approve the consent calendar. >> okay. there's a motion to approve the consent calendar. is there a second? >> second. >> okay. call the roll [roll call] >> the motion passes. good luck. we'll move onto our regular agenda, 6-c, ichi pub. >> yes. so the first on our regular agenda is ichi pub, and this is on first street by japantown. they're going for a place innen tainment permit. this is a change in ownership, they used to be milo lounge, and they want to do karaoke.

i want to give the owner a big thumbs up, applause. he has now made it in the ranks of onef two people since've been here to get every single inspection done by the date of this hearing. yea, kevin. there are a few pd conditions that i've sent his way, so you should take a look at those, and let us know if you have any questions. kevin, why don't you come on up to the podium and let the commissioners know about your business. >> good evening. my name's kevin -- sorry. so i took over milo lounge, and we rename it had to ichi pub. it's right directly in japantown, right across the street from the japantown plaza. all the surrounding area's all merchant, so i don't see any residential around the area. the closest one is probably

about 1.5 blocks away to the closest residential. i do have two karaoke rooms out there, so maybe one of those i'll be ren out enever it's possible, of course. i did look at the security -- well, the police conditions. the security camera, i did update all of them. i have a total of 16, two on the exterior door, one at the back door, and one at the entrance coming in, so i kind of took care of that condition before this evening came up, because of course i want to make sure that all my stuff is up to date, too. and about the two security on friday-saturday, which i can work with, so i don't have any issue with the police department there, what they put on the conditions, yeah. >> okay. great.

i don't -- do you already have two security guards planned for your place? >> yeah, on friday and saturday. >> on friday and turday? that seems kind of excessive for a karaoke bar. >> i agree. >> same conditions as milo lounge, though, hin t that's what he was basing it off of. >> okay. well, if you feel comfortable with that, then, we can work with that. >> hi. thanks for coming. so i just wanted to make sure the doors from the karaoke room have windows so people can peek in. >> yeah. >> and with regards to your neighborhood contact, can you just explain a little bit more since -- >> well, i did meet with the neighborhood. as you can see there's one letter from kimochi, which is, like, three buildings next to

me. meet with the director, told him kind of what's going on there. they're actually pretty excited, too, they said oh, we can probably have some of these elderly event for karaoke. the system that i have, it has japanese karaoke songs, because karaoke, it's more japanese elderly, so hopefully we'll have a chance to work with them. besides with me doing the a.b.c., sending out the letter, no, but i did some light outreach in the neighborhood, but i did speak to my neighbors next to me next door at the playground. they do the same thing. it's a karaoke sports bar. kind of restaurants in the area. 'cause i don't serve food. i said my concept is just basically a bar. hopefully, i can bring them

some businesses, when they come over to enjoy a night, yeah. >> so you're taking over this venue right from -- can you tell me, do you have any experience managing a karaoke bar before or place of entertainment? >> no, not on the entertainment side. i do have law and management manage san francisco toyota for year so hopefully, i can bring some of those sales skills over to this side. >> thank you. >> i think it's great that we're asking another karaoke addition in japantown. >> i hope so, too, because part of when people do come to japantown, the first thing they k oin is either the food or karaoke, so karaoke will be pretty much the thing they talk about in japantown. >> i hope you do some fundraisers for kimochi. >> we're actually in talks, so

we're working out a couple of things with them. >> that's great. >> thank you. >> my turn. so what's your position there? >> no, i'm overseeing there. bartending, i'llef learn e day. >> who is your general manager. >> i have a manager. >> is it julie? >> julie is my bartender. >> okay. so julie, i know for a while. >> it's, like, the overseeing, too, of everything on the bartending side. >> you know, before, they had rick in the front as security, and they used him because he had a card. are you using him at the moment? >> no.

i'm using co-one security. >> regetting the same clientele that they've been having? >> no. actually, i've been getting a lot more from the kabuki hotel, because they do have a karaoke, but they close at 9:00, so i've been getting a lot of out of town you customers. >> i'm -- out of town customers. >> i'm questioning -- because milo, we had a l-- they always maintained one guard in the front. >> we could pull back on that. that would save a lot of expense on my end, but if it's something, i just have to go with it. >> do you know the square footage of your venue off the top of your head?

i know it's in here, too. >> about 1700, 1800, off the top of my head, but it's not a big place. >> are you planning on having entertainment outside of the karaoke rooms. >> just background music, 'cause it's more like a lounge, so i still want people to be able to communicate, so karaoke will still take place in an extra room. >> my thinking is the extra security guard would not be a condition. >> my only concern is if somethin we to happen, is there anybody on staff to know how to handle? >> if that's a condition, i would probably -- >> take some training. >> yeah, take some training. >> yeah. one guy is never enough. something happens -- but you also want to protect yourself, have some training. >> thank you. yeah, something i will look into. plus, my business hours are open until 1:30 a., so i

still have plenty of time to start getting people out the door. >> okay. great. and kudos for you to getting all yourermits in order. we often don't see that, as maggie said. all right. it doesn't appear there are any other questions. i'll move for public comment. i don't see think there is any, is there any public comment on ichi? all right. there being none, public comment is closed. all right. do any commissioners want to make a motion. >> i move to approvhe permit with the change of one security guard in the front, and -- and some training for the owners to back up this guard. but the guard has to have a guard card and -- through the company, so that's the motion i

propose, and all the rest of the conditions from the police. >> all right. so you move to approve this permit with the police conditions, with the modification of -- >> one security. >> minimum of one security guard. is there a second? >> second. >> all right. there's a second. let's take a vote. [roll call] >> motion passes. good luck. move onto item 6-d, which is permit for city club. >> okay. so city club, this one, i have on the regular agenda even though it's limited live performance -- well, i think the fact they have three permit applications kind of justifies putting it on regular. they have mechanical amusement device and mechanical and billiard device, as well. i want to call attention to the police department conditions, first and foremost, so go to

the last page for this item. i actually received these verbally today from permit officer medina from mission station, and so i have shared these with the owner, and she just has issue with one of them, in regard to number four. they're, you know, limiting the days and hours of entertainment here on the front end, and they're doing that because of the fact that they have told me that they received several sound complaints from this particular area? and i think that they are concerned with receiving more due to live entertainment occurring at this premises, although the owner really only plans to have the entertainment occasionally. so she has said that she's okay with this, but providing prior notice would be very challenging when her business model is to do this on an

occasional basis, and it may be that they decide to do it the day before. so you may want to speak with her about changing the wording of that. but i will go ahead and bring her up, janice. >> is it okay with the denial of the mechanical amusement device? >> yes. >> did the police give any reason why they would deny a pin ballhine? >> comes from a gambling basis. so she did not provide me any documentation of previous complaints with this business? but just to give more background, janice owned a premises right down the street for about 30 years that had billiard parlor and mechanical amusement device. >> yeah. i asked them to take the -- >> could you just speak into the microphone. >> oh . i asked permit officer

medinao take the mechanical devices. >> okay. so you're pulling your request for that. >> yes. i want the pool tables, which i've had all these years. and with the limited entertainment, my business is predominately latino, and they're restaurant workers. they're s, they're waiters, and their days off are sunday-monday, and i sponsor a baseball team. and so on sunday afternoons, they like to come in and celebrate with their wives ad friends, so the entertainment thing would be -- if i have it once a month, that's going to be a lot, you know? and i'd like to keep it on a sunday afternoon basically because all the displacement in the mission district, i feel

they've suffered enough, and they should have something from their culture because on sundays, mexicans celebrate, and they call it tadiada, which is they come and dance and have a few drinks and stuff, and i'd like to keep that in. i get upset when i think of all the displacement, and for me, being moved after 31 years, i didn't like it at first. i hated it. i was upset. me at 75 years old having to pick up and look for another place, but then, i've come to realize that i think it's a good thing. i think it will cleanup the area and the neighborhood, and i'm happy to be getting out of that corner because i have been a slave not only to the front of my business but to the half of the block which i have continuously painted, pressure

washed, and everything. so i'm so happy that i found thise w placth a wonderful landlord. and in fact, my rent is going to be $1,000 less than what i pay, and 250 square foot more. >> so you're taking the ceqa which is at the corner and going down the right. >> right across the street a half a block. >> and you're going where the star board techno was. >> exactly. i bought patty's place, which was a very sad, sad situation. put nine months and all her money into it and lost it. >> yeah. it didn't last very long. i lived for just over a year at shotwell and 16th street. i'm curious, where the police said those complaints were coming from? was it coming from slate? >> so that was a very interesting conversation because i said that's our role

to be able to respond to our complaints for permanent establishments, you should let us know. she said oh, okay, and i also asked for a list of any current complaints, but i haven't received that? so i don't have the data for you all, and i know you love data. i don't know how to respond to that. i tried my best mediating with the police department. they actually started off, the captain wanted an outright denial of the entertainment permit in general because they feel as though residential -- there's so much more residential, and we need to protect the neighbors, and i said that's what the planning department is for -- okay. so you get the point. >> yeah, interesting. >> i think what they mean by that, the noise, because from 16th and allie, up towards valencia, that's where all the

noise is. where i'm at, slate is next door. >> yeah, 16th and mission, anyone who's gone there knows how vibrant that area is. >> yeah, and further up. in my area -- >> so yeah, yeah. i think -- have you received many complaints aboutity club specifically? >> never. 30 years, and i was very active in the neighborhood association until businesses started falling out, and our secretary moved out, but i would spear head christmas parties for these 75 children that lived in those s.r.o.'s for almost ten years, until things kind of fell apart. and when the women from karitas still ask me, i order them

roses. we used to do a christmas party and easter. i give back a lot. > that's great. that's wonderful. commissioner bleiman? >> this is a question for the director and inspector burke. do we get a lot of complaints n complaints o from slate? is it on the docket? >> i remember the last... >> i got one. >> commissioner lee? >> so d you realize, without mechanical amusement, that includes j includes jukebox. >> no. >> no, no, no. >> not at all. >> okay. that includes juke box. i could have sworn it's all mixed in. i did, too. i can't believe you didn't need a permit for that, being with the noise. >> so what sound system are you planning on having for the -- >> you see, this is it. it's not a big band, it's not a

big band with amplifiers and thati that. it's maybe a trio. >> so live entertainment. >> yeah, where they come around and sing happy birthday. it's not a formal band where you have acoustics and all of that. basicall sealing rigceiling ri

bar? is it sheet rock? is it open rafters, you can see the beam? >> no, there's no draft -- there's no rafters or anything.

>> like, sheet rock? >> sheet rock, and there's beams, and it's retrofitted already and stuff. >> yeah. sometimes we're just concerned about the music inside. know. i understand it completely and if there is a complaint, i will take care of it. >> okay. let me just make a comment. since you've been a business for over 30 years. >> 31. >> and you've been so good to the community, you can go to the small business commission and apply for legacy business. >> for what? >> legacy business. >> oh, i know that. >> it's a lot of paperwork, but it's worth it, and let me tell you why. >> paperwork? i'm 75 years old. >> it'll help you take care of it. >> oh, i know that. >> and moving to a new location isn't that bad. i've dealt with that in chinatown -- [inaudible] >> i've had to do that, build

another bar, a storeroom. >> i think the neighborhood will embrace you and know you actually better. >> the whole neighborhood knows my business. >> so you're going to do way better, and you can retire happy. >> i'm trying to leave a legacy for my granddaughter. i brought her into the corporation with me. >> let her fill out the paperwork. but at the end, the city supports you. >> the community has been very good to me, and i've always taken care -- i respect the fact that -- i think it's an honor to have a liquor license, and i don't want to abuse it. >> do you serve just beer and wine or full liquor? >> full liquor. i'd starve with beer and wine. >> i understand. >> he does understand. okay. i don't know if there's any further comments from commissioners? why don't you have a seat, and

then, we'll open it up for public comment. it doesn't seem there's anyone here for that. >> would it be fine if i just -- you know, like, if i -- i won't have a planned agenda for when i'm going to have music. i might know a week ahead of time. is a week sufficient to e-mail -- >> generally, it is, and the earlier, the better, just so they can deploy people if they need to. >> i will, but it's just such a casual thing, i mean, when and if. >> the way you're talking about your programming isn't, like, you're hosting nightly concerts and things like that. so that kitype of conditions i generally for things like that, versushat you're describing, a roving mariachi band or loan

guitarist. i think the more notice you can provide us and to the police, e better. there's some education that needs to happen with us and mr. -- or officer medina around some of these conditions to sort of figure out, y know, not just for you but all of the mission area, if they're going to suggest conditions like this to us in the future. but that's another topic for another time. why don't you have a seat, and we can take a motion after hearing from public comment. is there any public comment on city club? all right. no public comment. public comment will be closed. [ gavel ]. >> yeah? >> before we take a motion, i just have some thoughts here that are coming to my mind. i have a lot of respect for the san francisco police department, but i don't personally like how they just

kind of blanket condition in areas that they think they should or should not without any real hard data behind it. so not that ien b this, but i think that we have to take what they suggest here in the light of how they suggested it and the lack of data. we've seen manition situations where the police bring extensive data for what they're estiqu and verbally communicating the director the day of, and blanket requiring us to do things is not the way they should be doing business. it's not the best tng for us. i don't think we should hold this against the police department. one thing that comes to my mind, this is a long time business owner whoualifies as a legacy business owner in san francisco. female color owned businesses, it's exactly the type of businesses that are diing right now, that's been forced to move to a new space.

to me, entertainment that she's suggesting right now, it seems really important to her, but what if the business isn't working out the way for her that she intends in the new space. i would be apt to provide for flexibility in the area. even limitiono four days a month, she says she's only going to do four days a month, but wt's the harm if she wants to have a mariachi band on saturday, and maybe there's a new team that wants to come in on saturdays? to me, i don't know what's the harm on that if we're j ntertament to people seven days a week constantly. to me, if i were to entertain a motion in this, it would give more flexibility for sure, not to throw it in the police department's face, but for the reasons i just said so. >> yeah, and i think we haven't done a lot of edited of police

conditions in the recent period of time, and i think we always have the right to modify them, to reject them. i agree, i think you know, as a former neighbor just up until a month ago, i walk by this stretch of 16 street all the time, and i think that the city club was a great asset to the neighborhood, and that particular block, even though it's just a block away, could use some life to it. i don't -- there's, like, homeless people in the street that make noise. i don't know what the c.a.d. record is on things around there, so i can't speak to that, but anecdotally, i didn't notice a problem, and i think breathing some life and some night life and giving the latino community a place to gather is very important. so with that, i'm very supportive of this permit and

of modifying these police conditions to actually not limit any of their dates or times of operation. so would anyone like to make a >> i'd like to motion to approve this without -- i'm sorry, tove the permit without limiting any of the dates or the times that they can provide live music, provided they follow by the good neighbor policy and do everything else. that's my motion. >> so it sounds like you would support approving with police conditions one, o, atwd three, and striking four and -- i guess keeping five because they have -- sounds like they've chosen to not want that. >> yes. >> okay. great. >> do you want tnc ticing to p.d. and entertainment commission? >> yeah, i think i would, within a week, so giving the police and entertainment

commission a calendar of events within one week in advance. >> okay. great. there's a motion. is there a second? >> second. >> seconded by commissioner caminong. let's take a vote. >> clerk: okay. [roll call] >> motion passes. good luck. look forward to coming by someday. [applause] >> you're welcome. we'll move onto item number seven, our very last item. commissioner comments and questions. so commissioners, anyone have final thoughts you want to say? >> final thoughts? going back on the -- you know, i think, in my experience, they always will go -- the police will always go based on what they gave to the prior owner without really thinking about the new owner, and sometimes,

you know, new owners take over because the old owner was a bad owner. i think it's up to us to figure that out case by case, especially if we're familiar with the place. and if we didn't have any complaints prior in a while, i'm always -- i know audrey used to do that a lot, you know, changing police ndions. so, i mean, i'm all supportive of police and public safety, but at the same time, as industry members, we have to give the new industry, the new generation a chance to run their business. that's why they're here. >> yeah. to their credit, i think the police have scaled back and tried to standardized it more. i think we would say look what the standard conditions are, what the good neighbor policy is, and figure out why you would want to add these other weird conditions. >> which is definitely what i

did. and i think if you see any other of the applications that have come in in her station, she normally just stamps an approval and doesn't add any conditions, so this kind of surpd, well. >> other commissioner comments on that topic or other topics? i'm just going to reiterate for the record, we will be cancelling the first meeting in july. our meetings are the first and third tuesdays of the month. that's so that peo c not have to worry about rushing over here, getting quorum, right before july 4. and the next meeting in july is july 17. and as a reminder, weill be ing psident and vice president elections at that time. so if anyone's interested in taking the reins, let's talk. i'm also happy to continue being president, if that's what we choose. but i think we should -- you

know, i think i've been president for the last four years, which i have really enjoyed doing, but i think having a rotation is also a good thing, and i think we all can consider that. so if everyone can consider that, and if you're kind of curious a little bit more about what the president does, i'm sure maggie is happy to speak to you, and i am, as well. >> one more announcement. the search for the new director, we have final interviews on thursday, with -- i'm sorry, not final interviews, interviews with the we're hoping to have a y, and recommendation in a closed session here in the next meeting. that would be ideal if we could pull that off. >> can i ask -- >> make sure that's on the agenda. >> yes, definitely. we'll work with commissioner bleiman. >> i just wanted to add in, as well, just condolences from the entire staff and i'm sure commission as well, to

commissioner lee in the passing of your father. been thinking about you a lot. >> thank you. thank you. appreciate that. i mean, he -- he suffered from a stroke actually a year ago in may, so -- and we thought we could pump him up, and, you know, it's hard when you're 88 years old, and, i mean, president tan's gone through a family member, too, and sometimes, i was debating the lastonth about quality of life compared to quantity of life. i talked to all my friends, and we got a lot of response on facebook and their opinions. you know, sometimes you wonder, do you keep your loved ones pretty much active person, and sem jhet sitting there, and they're telling you this life is for the birds, but his vitals are good, and you say well, the guy up stairs is not ready for you to go yet, and

you're stuck in that crossroads. i'm happy in the sense that he went in his slp, and he didn'tave to suffer for that, and i think our whole family appreciates everybody that's said thank you and all your support, and hopefully, after saturday, we'll be all okay, you know? but i'm good. thank you so much, you know, you guys? and i'm still here, you know? business as usual, and that's how we would like it, so... >> thanks for mentioning that, miss weiland, and if there's no other comments, we'll open it up for public comment, and no one's here to see that, so this meeting is adjourned. have a good night. happy election day, and happy pride month.

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