good afternoon, and welcome to the mayor's disability council this friday, june 15, 2018. in room 400 of san francisco city hall. city hall is accessible to persons using wheelchairs and other assistive mobility devices. wheelchair access is provided at the grove, van ness and mcallister streets via ramps. wheelchair access at the polk street, dr. carlton b. goodlett

entrance is provided via wheelchair lift. assistive listening devices are available and our meeting is open captioned and sign language interpreted. our agendas are also available in large print and braille. please ask staff for any additional assistance. to prevent electronic interference with the room sound system and to respect everyone's ability to focus on the presentations, please silence all mobile phones and tdss. you're cooperation is appreciated. we welcome the public's participation during public comment periods. there will be an opportunity for public comment at the beginning and end of the meeting, as well as after every item on today's

agenda. each comment is limited to three minutes and the council will respond to your comments following the meeting if you provide your contact information. you may complete a speaker's card, available in the front of the room, approach the microphone during public comment, or call the bridge line at 1-415-554-9632, where a staff person will handle requests to speak at the most appropriate time. the mayor's disability council meetings are generally held on the third friday of the month. our next regular meeting will be held on friday, july 20, 2018, from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m., here at san francisco city hall. in room 400.

please call the mayor's office on disability for further information or to request accommodations at 1-415-554-6789, voice, or e-mail us. a reminder to all of our guests to speak slowly into the microphone. to assist our captioners and interpreters. we thank you for joining us. >> co-chair blacksten: so let's have the reading of the roll call. co-chair denise senhaux? absent. co-chair blacksten? >> here.

council member tatiana kostanian? absent. council member tatiana kostanian. >> present. council member sally coghlan mcdonald. >> present. counsel member orkid sassouni? absent. council member helen smolinski? absent. council member kate williams? absent. >> co-chair blacksten: all right, i think there is supposed to one or two of the council members who may be joining us by the bridge line a little later on. so we will proceed. i don't believe in this is a quorum but we'll proceed with the meeting. second action item is reading and of the agenda.

>> item number 1, welcome, introduction and roll call. item 2, action item, reading and approval of the agenda. item 3. public comment. items not on today's agenda, but within the jurisdiction of the mdc. we welcome the public's participation during public comment periods. there will be an opportunity for public comment at the beginning and end of the meeting as well as after every item on today's agenda. each comment is limited to three minutes and the council will respond your comments following the meeting if you princess diana your contact information. you may complete a speaker's card, available in the front of the room. approach the microphone during public comment or call our bridge line at 1-415-554-9632, where a staff person will handle requests to speaks at the appropriate time. item 4, information item. co-chair report. item 5, information item, report

from the mayor's office on disability. please note that the director's reports can be found in the what's new section of mod's website. item 6, information item. an overview of the san francisco police department crisis intervention team and mobile crisis unit. cit is a partnership between sfpd, department of public health and mental health service providers. present by lt. mario molina coordinator, behavioral service unit, san francisco police department. public comment is welcome. item 7, information item. behavioral health treatment in the criminal justice system. this presentation will provide an overview of the provision of mental health treatment with the county jail including the specific treatment modalities utilized, how correctional

mental health treat differs from community treatment and the challenges of providing treatment in a correctional setting. the presentation will also cover the importance of re-entry planning and how collaboration with behavioral health court facilitators this. presentation by tanya mera. public comment is welcome. break. the council will take a 15-minute break. item 8, information item. mental health and criminal justice system. this presentation will talk about people with mental health disabilities and the intersection and navigation of the criminal justice system. presentation by jorge mestayer, peer counselor. public comment is welcome. item 9. public comment. items not on today's agenda, but within the jurisdiction of the mdc. each speaker is limited to three

minutes. please approach the microphone or give your comment card to the mod staff. item 10, information item, correspondence. item 11, discussion item, council member comments and announcements. item 12, adjourned. >> co-chair blacksten: thank you very much. i have just been informed that council member kate williams has made her appearance. and is here. >> council member williams: thank you. >> co-chair blacksten: so we have four out of eight here today. all right, let's go to item number 3, which is public comment. items not on today's agenda, i understand we have a speaker's card. >> we have two, the first one is zack.

>> good afternoon. thank you for giving me the opportunity for speak here today and all the wonderful work you and your staff do. i appreciate mod very much. i want to talk about a discriminatory hearing i had at my hearing at the sfmta office. getting on buss in a wheelchair is very difficult, a lot of drivers don't want to pick us up and a driver told me to catch the next one. i had to argue with him to get on the bus, i was able to, not too full. a made a complaint, but it was ignored for a month. i had to argue with staff to get an ada hearing. when that happened, i found out they had lost half of the video footage from the incident, including a portion of the video

footage where the driver complained that wheelchair users always want to get on the bus when it's full. but the crux of this has been my experience with the so-called neutral hearing officer who badgered, bullied me during the course of the hearing. it was very difficult experience for me. and not one that i wish to repeat. i really hope there can be neutral hearing officers that don't work for sfmta, mr. henry epstein still found against me, and found the driver did nothing wrong. he was not going to let me make a statement until i had to specifically request it and during that statement, even after agreeing not to interrupt me, he did interrupt me during

the statement and was speaking over me multiple times. i have to recorded an would love to show this to mod staff, to talk about the incident in more detail. lastly, there was a union representative there, both the driver and the union representative were much nicer to me than the neutral hearing officer. and i've been asking sfmta if there is a way to have a disability representative. because i think having a disability representative that is not affiliated with sfmta is an important part of disability people having a voice and help in the meetings. even with my cognitive ability, it was still difficult, so i worry about people making ada complaints that do not have the ability to speak as clearly or have cognitive of mental health disabilities, because that was very, very difficult for me.

thank you for your time. >> co-chair blacksten: thank you for your comment. who is the second card? >> winship hillier? >> thank you. i would just like to say that i tried to find the minutes on the website before i came here last night and they weren't there. i like to see the minutes ahead of time when i attend the meeting. so if you could put them up at least the day before, i would appreciate it. i wish to speak today about involuntary psychiatric treatment. i have been subject to this treatment for over ten years in this city. it is being done using -- first of all, horrible disabilities are being imposed on people far

worse than any mental health issues they might have had before hand. it's basically, people are disabled and there could be -- it's unknown what the objectives are because the treatment is being administered in absentia. and the confidential laws in the state are being used to conceal the identity of the treater, not the patient. so the patient has no recourse. they can't file a court case. they can't get evidence because of institution code section 5328 and they're helpless. and moreover, they're denied recognition of their disability. in april of 2010, psycho surgery was performed on me, which is against the law in this state. penal code 2670, welfare and

institutions code section 5326.6, and i cannot even get a recognition that there is anything wrong with my brain. i've paid 4 grand for an mri scan that showed my ventricle was 50% larger than my right, which is extremely unusual. it's way past three standard deviations from the mean. and ucsf would not acknowledge anything was abnormal with my brain morphology, even after i requested they change their interpretation. this appears to be funded -- this appears to be carried out using classified technology, including intelligence surveillance illegally used. and -- >> co-chair blacksten: you've got 30 seconds. >> yes, there is a timer here,

i'm aware of how much time i have. i'm not sure how to wrap this up, but it appears to be involuntary treatment funded by the city, they get well over a million dollars a week to do assertive community treatment. chair. >> co-chair blacksten: we appreciate your comment, thank you very much. all right, so i think we've got those two comments. let's move on to item number 4. which is the co-chair report. and i will make my report brief today. i just want to let all of you know that we really do appreciate you coming. without you being out there in the seats to participate, we really wouldn't have a meeting at all. we're going through a transition

time here in san francisco, a new mayor will be coming onboard. we're looking forward to working the new mayor. and we want to have develop a mutually rewarding working relationship and have every confidence that will happen. i think you'll find today's meeting to be rather interesting. i want you to know that after following every meeting in the next week, the council gets together with mod staff and we very carefully and deliberately plan our upcoming meetings for the next three months. so today, we put some subject matter out there. they're all really related items. they're interrelated. and i think you'll find them to be interesting and compelling. all of the speakers are important, but i think the third one is of note.

and you'll find out what he comes to present. so i want you all to enjoy our presentations. feel free to give us more speakers' cards toward the end of the meeting. or after any presentation. ok. that is my report for now. i'm going to ask my colleague, the director of mod nicole bohn -- what? oh, nicole is not here. oh, now i find out. joanna, i take it you're on. >> thank you, co-chair blacksten. i am the deputy director of the mayor's office on disability. on behalf of director bohn who is sorry to not be here in

person, she would like to ask you to recommend action to items related to any part of this presentation, or other items discussed in this report as a follow-up to today's public hearing. since the may 2018 meeting and some important upcoming opportunities for public engagement by san francisco bay area residents with disabilities. number one, is accessible bike-sharing. the oakland mayor's commission on people with disabilities, you're counterpart, will be discussing accessible bike-share programs monday, june 18, from 5:30 to 7:30 p.m. p.m. at oakland city hall. the mayor's disability council may consider partnering with

this effort and try to bring that effort also in san francisco. accessible building entrance ordinance or abe, with the support of district 4, supervisor tang, the department of building inspections abe program compliance deadlines is extended by six months, effective june 1, 2018. community education workshops about how to make primary entrances or public accommodations accessible continue. for the most up-to-date information about the a.b.e., please visit, sfdbi.org. next, is an update on the golden

gate park healthy saturday program. mod had conversations this month with both their recreation and parks department and the san francisco bicycle coalition about the accessibility of golden gate park during healthy saturday partial street closures. this is a topic that the mdc has been particularly interested in. the bicycle coalition is offering to host a tour and feedback session during a healthy saturday in july. that is before your meeting, on july 14. or july 28. an invitation will be sent to the mod and posted on the website when the details finalize. not only the mayor's disability council, but members of the disability community are welcome to come and participate. finally, state and federal

legislative update. mdc and members of the public are encouraged to engage with the following, particularly of interest to people with disabilities. proposed transportation network company, otnc legislation, sb 1376 introduced by senator hill in addressing tnc über lift accessibility plans, especially for those with wheelchair and mobility devices. it's the first one of its kind and has passed the california state senate, but will be heard in extended form in an assembly meeting on wednesday, june 20. that's next wednesday, june 20. the voices of the disability community, especially those of us who are using wheelchairs and

other mobility devices, needing on demand transportation are needed to speak on that effort. please contact myself or nicole as soon as possible for more information, or if you're considering participating in this important meeting. our e-mail addresses are joan joanna.fraguli @ sfgov.org. and the director website is

nicole.bohn @ sf gov.org, or you can go through our website and send an e-mail and it will find its way to myself or nicole. finally, the next legislative update is on the ada education and reform act. as mentioned over the last several months, hr 620 has been received in the state in the senate. and the state senators have committed to oppose this bill. so it's also an opportunity to engage and support this effort. this report that i just read is posted to the mod home page following the meeting, usually

by monday, or tuesday at the latest. for questions or comments, to get involved or to provide feedback on any of these items, please contact our office. the mayor's office on disability at 1-415-554-6789 or send us an e-mail. to stay current on opportunities, events, perta pertaining to people with disabilities, please subscribe to our e-list. thank you for your attention. >> co-chair blacksten: thank you, joanna. you did quite well. let's go on to item number 6. which will be our first speaker.

the presentation will be by lt. mario molina. who is the cit coordinator, behavioral science unit, san francisco police department. >> good afternoon, council. i want to thank you for having me back on behalf, thank you for allowing one of the members to be one of our trainers. we appreciate her work. and her dedication to the program. next to me is dr. lewis, who is part of the work group for the oic/cit program, he just walked in and is here to support the program and speak on the program if needed. let me give you a brief overview of what the program is. i'm in charge of the program. i have three sergeants, two that are assigned to the training.

one sergeant is assigned to the psyche liaison unit and two officers that are the street unit. i'm going to talk about the training. the training is two sections. we have the 40-hour training, composed of the memphis model, that talks about overview of mental health issues. we also talk about the escalation and we -- de-escalation, we do this through a lecture and scenarios, interactive scenarios with police officers and role players. that is half of the day. the other half is composed of policies and procedures. we also talk about police practices. we looked at different media from other departments and other agencies that have engaged in

officer-involved shootings and we divide our officers and discuss these videos to see whether anything else could have been done, improved. so we learn from watching others responding to crisis. and then in the second part of the lectures, we talk about de-escalation. we put our officers through crisis calls. we emphasize importance of taking leadership during crisis and informing a team, which is what the department has. throughout the last 18 months or so, we've been training our officers on forming teams respondent to a person in crisis as probably everybody that is here police videos when officers respond to scenarios, there is a

person holding a weapon, like a baseball bat, it's a metal stick and you continue to hear officers say drop the weapon, drop the weapon, drop the weapon, that's how we train. we train to give a command and make sure everyone knows what the officer is asking a person to do. but because of mental illness or substance abuse or whatever is going on in this person's brain, they're not able to understand what is going on. there are people with voices in their head. so we're teaching our officers to create time and distance, and only one person talking, giving directions. and to make sure that he or she is talking to the person, and try to get the person's understanding. for example a person hearing voices in their head, we say, hey, can you hear me? and wait to see if that person

acknowledges that. if the person acknowledges that, ok. then can you distinguish my voice with the other voices on your head? and continue to do that in tandem with the person. and with doing that, will give the officer a better understanding of what is going on with the person. and would also allow us to get other resources to the scene that we can manage better. and try to avoid the use of force. and we teach them sometimes the use of force might be necessary to prevent a person from hurting themselves or hurting others. so there is always a chance that de-escalation might not work. so we have a specific scenario where that is the goal. where the officer will try to de-escalate the person, but the person at one point or another, seems to be compliant, but then he or she becomes aggressive.

so sometimes you have to use force to prevent him or her from hurting themselves or somebody else. so we give 100% view of what is going on with the person. this program is supported by the leadership of the police commission, the command staff and also by you, council. thank you for your support. the public defenders office. the police accountability department and the mental health board. and other agents throughout, providers, advocates in the mental health system. so in the last 2-3 years, we're getting feedback from the officers, having that tactical training that i just described to you. so we created a follow-up training to the 40 hours. we call this the 10-hour

training and it involves responding to a person in crisis and how to handle the situation. so our officers right now are receiving at least 60 -- 50 hours of cat training, 10 hours with use of force. so to give you an idea where we're at, the san francisco police department is divided into two sections. we have the metro division, the downtown area and the golden gate, which is the outer part of the city. so in the metro, we have 326 officers that are trained in cit. and the golden gate division, 278. and we also have a specialized unit like the s.w.a.t. team. we call it tactical unit. we have narcotics. we have investigations, homicide, all the other bureaus. we call that specialized unit, so we have 293 officers trained

on that. so we have a total of 897 officers. the memphis model requires 20% of training. we're about 46-47% of training. and the chief's goal is to continue to train. our goal is to train the entire department. so looking at 3-4 years to get everybody trained on the 40 hours. now, fort 20 hours, for the 10 hours use of force and the 10 hours of tactical de-escalation, we started that training back in february of last year. right now, we have 1600 officers trained in that. to me, that was very important training because this is the training that allows the officer to form teams and use de-escalation skills when responding to a person in crisis. so what we've been doing for the last 15 months or so, is having classes twice, sometimes three

times a week with the officers. the police department has 2200, it doesn't lose everybody in the police department, so we're 1600. so i'm very optimistic that we'll be done before the end of the year on doing the tactical training. i can see the difference on the streets. i can hear the officers on the radio responding to crisis and asking for resources before they get there. so it's working. we also -- part of our goal is to train captains, lieutenants, everybody in charge of the officers, right? the boss has to know what the offices are doing. so we had night captains trained, 30 lieutenant, 76 sergeants and we continue to train them on the tactical

aspect of it. the captains, lieutenants and sergeants are required to come to training with their officers, so everybody is on the same page from the top to the officer rank. i know i'm here to talk about our partnership with the department of public health. at the beginning of the end of the 2016, the late mayor ed lee asked the department of public health to create a partnership with the police department on responding to crisis. so they created five openings for clinicians that were going to be assisting us. i know right now, there are four. clinicians that are helping us. we have an mou, that describes

our partnership. the department of public health provides support when we have, for instance, a barricaded suspect, a person, an individual who has barricaded themselves in a room, a house, and is going through mental health crisis. it can be two different scenarios, it can be a person who committed a crime and is barricaded or someone who is suffering from a mental health issue. there is two difference, one is a criminal justice component and the other one is not. mental health issue is not a criminal issue at all. so at the beginning, we approach the same way as far as time and distance, getting resources there, and if we believe that the person is not a danger to themselves or others in the house, we'll wait. and we wait. and we talk. and we wait.

we go some instances that have been resolved within hours to a day and a half. while waiting for the person to contact us back. like i said, every case is different. so sometimes we have to make entry for the safety of another individual inside the house. but the majority of times, the instances i have responded, we just wait. and we know sometimes it's difficult. especially when the person is using drugs. it's a higher time lapse that we expect for the person to come down to acknowledging that the police is on their side and we're trying to get them to a place of safety. so how do we utilize these clinicians? so i, myself, get the phone call from the department of

communications telling me there is incident involving a person who has barricaded themselves in the residence, or apartment, or anywhere in the city of san francisco. i then contact the department of public health telling them what we have, because of the emergency situation, i'm allowed to ask the department of public health whether this person has any record with them. the reason we do that is to provide support. a good example of that is a person that was in a spectrum, asperger spectrum and i was able to contact department of public health and they were able to give me information about how to work with this individual. we used that to talk to him, to come out of the apartment. and it worked. the information we received from the department of public health about previous encounters with

them, either in the office setting, during the interviews and process, was provided to us under extenuating circumstances and that information assisted the police negotiators that were at the scene and got this person to come out. officers didn't get hurt. he didn't get hurt. and we took him to a place where he was treated for it. that's an example of how we use mobile department of public health. we also go out with the clinicians on wednesdays and thursdays. we have conferences. they have names of people they're working with, but don't safe enough to go to the houses because of previous situations, known history about the person. so two of my officers and a sergeant would join.

they have a brief consultation about what the needs are for this person. and we get into cars and respond to this person's residence or location and we try to contact them. the goal is to get this person to a place of safety. and basically to have everybody around them safe. because that's our basic concern, right? our goal is to avoid crisis. i'm a true believer if we're proactive on the streets and do outreach, reaching out to the person that potentially might encount encounter a crisis, if we get to that person before the justice system gets involved, i think we have done our job. i feel that when we talk about services where the person is going to jail, somehow we have failed. because he got to that point.

he shouldn't be like that, it shouldn't happen like that. whoever needs help should be given services before we get to that point. that's our goal. to intersect these individuals before they get there. we do that on wednesday and thursday with the department of public health. we recently put a program into place called the liaison officer program which is in san francisco, we have ten of them. they're assigned to a district. they're going to be the person working with the department of public health directly. they don't have to come to my unit. we have sustained training with them already in the department of public health. they met each other. they talk about what the issues are in the district. and now they have direct line of commune cautions between the department of -- communications between the department of public health and the police department. that is our goal to do that.

i don't know if you had the opportunity to see what the chief has been talking about. my unit has submitted a proposal. my goal is to have a clinician riding with a police officer in the car. i think most of the cities south of us, l.a., san diego, metropolitan cities, have those programs. why not here? how come san francisco don't have that? san diego has it. san bernardino has it. why not here? so that's our goal. chief has ok'd the proposal, he likes it, he wants to move forward with it, and he presented it to mayor farrell and now we're just waiting to see what happens. but that is some of the goals we've planned. this clinician with the officer will respond to calls for

service. they're not going to be the first unit responding, they're the secondary unit, because i don't want to put a civilian who hasn't had the training in harm's way. but they will come in and take care of whatever needs to be addressed as far as the treatment for that person. i think that the department of public health will have better access to services that a police officer's knowledge will have at that time. it's only right that the department of public health have a health worker who is able to navigate this person to their system. i think that's a very more efficient way of dealing with referring people to treatment, than a police officer who has limited resources like psychiatric services. if we have a clinician, health services that has access to their system, they can find a better way to take this person

to treatment. so this is some of the goals that we have for 2018. and hopefully we'll see that soon. our chief is very supportive of it. and obviously there is room for improvement in our unit. i think we need to improve on how we collect data and show the good work that the police department is doing in the mental health field. because not often it's been talked about, the good work. only the bad things that happen are being talked about and discussed. but we have to talk about the good stuff that officers are doing. but that doesn't hole us back for celebrating our own officers. so next week, i'm inviting all the council. we had a cit award ceremony. we're going to be recognizing 22 officers that used de-escalation skills and brought the situation to safety for the individual and

the officers and were able to take this person to a place of care. so we're going to be celebrating 22 officers and one dispatcher. that was able to communicate over the phone with a man who was talking about suicide on his way to san francisco. we were able to find this person and get him to a place of safety. so, that's it in a nutshell. i'm here for any questions that you might have. >> co-chair blacksten: hold on. >> so the award ceremony is on thursday, 1:00, june 21. 19th avenue. >> co-chair blacksten: that's great, thank you very much, that's a very compelling presentation.

so what i would like to do is open it up to my colleagues here on the council. do any of you have any questions? for this lieutenant? >> council member williams: i do. perhaps i just wasn't listening closely, but when you were describing the category of weapons, baseball bat, something steel, it was a classification of a type of weapon. are there different classifications of weapons, are there different guidelines around using a more lethal weapon like a gun or knife? >> there is a difference. basically, a gun can harm you from here to a block down the street. so it's a different tactic we use when approaching a person with a gun, than a person with a weapon, a knife. we have different tactics around

that, how we approach a situation like that. but we tried to use -- the goal of the training is to tell our officers, the de-escalation technique can be used in every call that you go to. they also get trained on how to handle situations with a firearm. because that's definitely a more immediate deadly weapon. >> council member williams: right. and more importantly, are there guidelines around if they do not, you know, drop their weapon? are there different guidelines for what your response will be? i'm not clear about that right now. so much about the tasers, could you explain that to us a bit. >> i'm not going to discuss the taser, because i'm not in with. but i can tell you that if what we have is a less lethal option.

so we had shotguns that shoot rubber bullets. so when we respond to a person that is holding a knife, we have an officer on the team that i explained, we have the communicator, we have the officer with the less lethal option which is the rubber bullet shotgun, when it hits you, it's like being punched. so it's a sock in a shotgun shell. and then we have an officer with a firearm that has the leelthal weapon. because if that nonlethal weapon doesn't work and the person advances with the knife, there is potential death to the officers, so we have to have a little cover. and then we have the arrest team standing by with them and a supervisor. so when dealing with the person with a weapon over blunt weapon,

there is less lethal shotgun involved by policy. so you have a less lethal option. but when you confront somebody with a firearm, he has a lethal weapon. that can be shot at you. from any point you're at. and that's a more dangerous situation than the person with the knife. >> council member williams: thank you very much and i want to thank you for your service to our community. >> thank you. >> co-chair blacksten: all right. let's see, thank you, kate. now i understand alex has a question. >> council member madrid: yes, i have a couple of questions for you. one, my first question is, is those officers that you described to us has a body -- that's one question.

and the second question is, you talked about training and do you do a hands-on training for those officers? and lastly, i understand that some of people that has mental health or has like homeless people, can be on drugs, so how would you train officers?

>> good questions. the training in regards to mental illness and drug use, sometimes the symptoms appear the same. so what we do with our officers, don't try to diagnose what is happening to the person. if it's drugs, it's going to mimic the same symptoms, but it might be the same symptoms you see in a person that is mentally ill. organic issues. so we ask our officers to treat everybody the same, so they don't, oh, my god, what do i have here? so they focus on that more than anything else. and then if we believe that the person is in drug crisis, you

see that with the person taking the clothes off, the skin is getting red and hot, so now know he has something on. so we ask for ems to respond right away. we know it's going to turn into a medical emergency. they're in narcotics that are causing the body to go to a high temperature, which is not typical of a person suffering from mental health and organic issues. that's some of the stuff we teach our officers. but we use the template, we treat everybody the same as far as behavior. >> council member madrid: going back to my other questions, are those officers wearing body armor as well to protect the

officers as well as civilians? >> if they're wearing body armor? everybody has to have the body cameras on. so those officers will have body cameras. so there is a policy that the police department has in place for the body camera wearing. everybody from the top to the bottom is supposed to wear a body camera. >> council member madrid: and last question was, do you train them hands-on, like going on the street, or it's up to them to train themselves when they're

outside? >> we do live trainings where we train the officer through scenario components. so my unit, the people in charge of the training, i have two sergeants in charge of it. we utilize the negotiators, we have 36 of them in san francisco, so the role players are negotiators that deal with people in crisis all the time. they can tell you and behave the way they see other people behave in them. so it's very realistic. we use rubber weapons. they're very realistic. and we goes hands-on, on situations. one of the scenarios i can describe to you to explain what i'm talking about, a lady that is suicidal, have posted facebook comments about killing herself, we responded to the house. i don't know what is wrong with my daughter. so the officers have to figure

it out and ask the right questions of the mom, if they do, they will find out she has a gun registered to her, she has been fired from a job, or gone through a breakup. they have to gather all the information before we can contact her. if they don't do that, they're going to come to a big surprise because they're going to try to talk to her and they have a firearm laying near the table where she is at. and they were not able to see that until they make entry in the room. so in that instance, the right situation for the officers, if they don't have information and make entry to the room, once they see the firearm, it's for them to retreat. >> council member madrid: thank you. thank you. >> co-chair blacksten: i need to -- i understand that sally has a question. >> council member mcdonald: i

was going to ask you about the percentage, but how are the people selected for the training and what is the response of the rank-and-file officers? do they appreciate it? >> sure. in past years, i will type a memo, send it out to the command staff and they will ask their officers to attend the training. now, we changed that. so now what we've done now is opening a learning portal to the academy. and we are utilizing the training sergeants in each district. and because everybody has to go to the training, the training sergeants will contact the officers and ask for volunteers if they want to attend the training. and then they will assign people if they have no volunteers. but everybody has to go to the training. good news, people are looking forward to going to the training. what i see the change is now,

people are signing up in advance to attend the training. so it has changed. i'm being honest with you, at the beginning, we've been doing de-escalation forever. the police department has had a program since 2001 on de-escalation. which is called a different thing. it was called crisis intervention training. we trained 900 officers. in 2010, that training was stopped for a while. and then we had two high-profile shootings and people asked questions, what kind of training are we doing for the officers? we weren't doing any at the time, so we created a new program, the one that i just spoke about. >> co-chair blacksten: that's great. all right. so how many people total have gone through the training in the last few years? >> so as of right now, i have

897 san francisco police department personnel trained. on the 40-hour training. and then on the tactical, 10-hour use of force and 10-hour tactical de-escalation, where they form a team and respond, i have 1600. >> co-chair blacksten: i see. ok. that's excellent. i'd like to go to staff. do any people, joanna or anyone else have questions? >> lieutenant molina, thank you so much for this presentation. it's always a pleasure working with your office. i keep contact with your accomplishments through donna and it's always a pleasure to hear you come back and report. it's wonderful work indeed. being located in downtown and market, we've see