what other police departments are doing and in accordance with the law. >> if we're going ask for advici would go little further. we have a sample already what te sheriff's deputy does. >> i sent sheriff and the l.a. county to the city attorney use office last week. i'm hoping in the next week or o we'll get a response. >> vice president mazzucco: putt on for july 11th. if there's an issue with it, wel move it to the other day. >> it's marked on the 11th so if there are any issues we'll deal with those and move the action. >> vice president mazzucco: we'l see what we need to do on the 18th. >> i want to make sure that whee get that memo that dpa about gea copy of that advice memo so we n

weigh in to facilitate these conversations. >> i do not know that there is a memo. i know the question was asked fr the city attorney's office. there is a group of lawyers wor on it. i will have to check in. i do not know that there's a meo coming. >> this is unrelated as long ase discussion is complete regardin. there was one other issue regarg the agenda and agendizing items that was brought to my attentio. i think that there's also been e media coverage what happened in closed session on at least whats agendized last week. i wanted to address the questiof -- i understand mr. hing will be appearing in closed session to address the same issues. is there a particular why his ne was left off the agenda?

when it appeared on the agenda t week, which set off this whole e storm? >> this item is not only the agenda. it's not a legal requirement to have any of the attorney's name. the purpose of the closed sessin item was to give direction to cy negotiators, which is dhr and nt jonathan yank. it was an oversite sight. his name shouldn't have been one agenda. it's not a legal requirement to have his name on the agenda. >> it will help to the commissin and the community to raise the question as to any potential conflicts or appearance of conflicts that exist. work with the position to defend the integrity of this commissio, the city attorney us -- attornes

office. now his name is disappearing. that's concerns about whether or not we're acting in good faith o try to raise these issues in prr form before the community. my question is simple. who took it off and why was it taken off? >> it's not a legal requirementr it to be on there. if you give me five seconds. katy porter was here. i wanted to see if i can find hr to answer your question.

>> i may chime in. our conversation on this line im is to put future items on calenr before the commission. some of the rules are in terms f agendizing items to have in-deph conversation. we all want to answer this question. this point we're getting to whee we're calling city attorney in o give us legal advice that's not agendized. my suggestion that we put this r july 11th for that issue. the conversation is gone beyond let's add something to the calendar. we can add it to calendar for nt hearing or meeting, we're gettig to the point now we're carryingn a full blown conversation with y commissioners chiming in. something we liken to know the answer to. we're violating the rules becaue it has not been agendize. i ask that we put this matter on for july 11th and we can have a more thorough discussion as an agendize item. >> i guess the reason i raise it now is because i really want to

lift this kind of perception ths been advanced in the media that there's some sort of nefarious actions taking place behind clod doors during the closed session. to the degree that i can we can assure the public that's not the case, that's why i raise it. when the city attorney's offices potentially taking action to ree items from the agenda, it appeas they trying to hide it from the community. i don't think that's a good look for any of us. that's why i raised the question ultimately. refer to mazzucco. >> vice president mazzucco: even

come in here. our city attorney is not prepard to answer this question. we should put it on -- anything further before we go to public comment retarding line item, 1a, c and d. please call for public comment. >> line two discussion of aness- >> vice president mazzucco: call public comment. now time for public comment regarding line item, 1a, b, c ad d. >> i didn't expect to have the opportunity to -- >> vice president mazzucco: we'e not doing the formalities. talk about public comment. >> the general public is now invited to public comment regarg lines 1a, b, c and d.

>> vice president mazzucco: pubc comment is limited to two minut. please come forward. first person. >> may it please the commission. any name is john jones. i like to take exception to the chief scott's report. it is not informative. it consisted largely restoratiof numbers quickly read from a cryt sheet. those numbers could have been easily incorporated in the documents that you published bee the meeting. i found this report uninformati. i find this report largely irrelevant. if you listen to it, he's reporg on san francisco, san jose or newark, new jersey. i like to present to the commisn a copy of a san francisco gate

newspaper article that appeared from the access two days ago entitled "am i in bad part of town." tours shocked by what they sighn san francisco street. may i have copy of this incorporated into the minutes of the meeting? the police department has some responsibilities in this area. this is a huge deal in san francisco. to fix our quality of life, peoe are losing money off this. this san francisco gate articles referenced in the dredge report. i find chief scott's reporter relevant and unsatisfactory it fails to address major issues in san francisco. he should not be allowed come in

here and issue a report that ignores that. may i leave few copies of this article on table? >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker. good evening. >> i hope this is the right parf the meeting. i'm talking about something that commissioner brought about the townhall meeting. i'm am 33 year resident of san francisco. i raised two sons here and retid from ucs foff. officers could have left and his three pals after seeing they had thrown away their open containes rather than escalating a harmles situation. he didn't. last year the commission could e done something to prevent the shooting when presented with a

report. while the report claims to somef this systematic obstacles theres no reason why the commission couldn't have done something tot cadillo off the streets. when each of the complaints was filed but it didn't. sfpd could have prevented the shooting by refusing to hire cadillo. when they should have done they killed someone on the beat. the los angeles police departmet could have prevented the shootig by ruling killing gang and murd. i have 30 seconds more. i ask you to do something that l prevent him from harassing, torturing, beating up, shootingr killing another person as a cop.

he must be immediately fired or absent without pay. >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker. good evening. >> good evening members of the police commission. would like to say that i'm very pleased to hear that the police department has made some increde advances with the awards and the metals. that is an excellent way to get

recognition to those that are performing their duties as we wt them to and that hold them up as examples. that's very good for motivation. i applaud you. thank you. >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker. >> good evening. >> i wanted to address a point t was made around the fact that al had good experience use of force working group. i used to be participating in te working group and accountability working group and also in the hiring and personal practices. after several attempts and particularly in the policing grp to request that we be given information about what each spor

understand after each session. what recommendations they make o the chief. what the chief actually approve, what is actually implemented and never getting responses. after he was shot, i stepped awy from the meeting. right now, there isn't even a p, not even measurable outcomes for any of the five basic areas of reform that have been establishd under the d.o.j. review. we have no idea what type of progress has been made in these reforms. i'm asking you again that we stt this process again. i want to point out that the rem process is managed by the pspp t the head which is michael who hs also in his career been involven

officer involved shootings in ', '94 and '95. one of the major issues is use f force. thank you. >> we have two people here from- they were with the department of justice. they've been hired to do audit d update. they're asking what you just sa. they right behind us there. they want know exactly where the problems lie in our process. you would be perfect to speak to them and give them information. >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker please. jeremy. >> good evening. i want to address the point that

was brought up about the negotiations for use of force ad the so called meet and conifer process. i was unclear on the decision. it is due to take place in closd session fairly shortly. -- i appreciate concerns you raised. i think that is the icing on the cake. the fundamental concern is that based on a state court ruling as far as back at the '70s it has been clarified that poa does not have legal right. it was raised before this body before. it's ludicrous that they keep trying to shove the people and s commission around in such a way. furthermore just last week the sunshine commission in a unanims

vote, found multiple sunshine violations with the hearing that was held late last year regardig the issuing of pagers to san francisco police officers. since multiple commissioners tht were present in this vote are no longer present including one deceased. since that can never be redone n an open and fair manner to the public, that should be completey thrown out. i know this is one of the points that the police want to negotiae on. i appreciate it. we should ask why names are disappearing from public notices about meetings. but the bigger question, why dos the public have to deal with ths at all. this is abuse of practice point-blank. >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker please. >> i want to thank the last pern for his wonderful comment. i like to echo his concerns.

my comment pertains to deescalan not a shooting in north beach. the assault happened when triedo call his mother for help. he is impulsive and dangerous p. i ask that he be fired by the cf with full backing from the commission. this will make san francisco sa. this man is not helping keep civilians safe. thank you. >> thank you. >> vice president mazzucco: 1a,, c and d. all public comments are closed. call the next line item.

>> vice president mazzucco: plee line up. next speaker. >> i'm with the democratic socialist of america. regarding the closed session, we you might be negotiating with tp orpoa this is ridiculously, the public overwhelming vote on proa which allow increased use of foe from police regarding tasers. i wanted to remind folks becausi know that the way to disrupt capital and disrupt power is to showcase the public's power. please remember that poa collaborators went down real had in the next election. i want all of you to keep this n mind as you're talking with poa.

thank you. >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker. >> i was at the townhall in norh beach. i don't think it went well at a. it seem like it was tax cut shot -- cut short. i was really dump founded why people people didn't cause trou. next day it was on "good morning america" and people in the natin had seen it. nobody except for are a few her. it's the same as the shooting. running with his gun and shootig really fast. testify what you eyes see. you can see it in the video. even on "world news tonight" thy slowed it down showed him droppg the gun. you guys have the technology, cf scott, to slow that down.

that was not shown on the media here. they showed it the next dayers channel 7. you can see him dropping the gun and throwing it in the gutter. maybe it was not a g i don't know that. it was blurry. my point is, it was wrong. it is wrong to shoot anybody ine back! it is wrong! >> vice president mazzucco: any further public comment? public comment closed. line item two. >> discussion on possible actioo approve issuance of department bulletin 18-101 booking biologil evidence. modifying department general or, 6.02, physical evidence and crie scenes action.

>> vice president mazzucco, director henderson. i'm the crime scene investigatis unit. i'm here to answer any questionr offer any clarifications on the biological booking evidence department that has been revise. >> vice president mazzucco: tels what is done differently what is the revision and what are the changes we should know and we should consider? you tell us. >> there anthony really changes. it's a clarification on a bullet tin that was issued two years b. it was sent down for review to e if it should be reissued or not. after consultation with the crie lab and in-house discussion, we informed written directives thae would like to reissue the bullen with some clarification.

it does expand little bit into e biological evidence handling ant incorporates a bulletin that was issued last year. specific to the preservation at crime scenes. we felt that the intelligent thg to do was to put all the biologl evidence materials into one bulletin rather than having that repetition and to reissue this bulletin. the amendment to the general orr 6.02, it doesn't add anything beyond the amendments that were done two years ago when we stopd freezing evidence. >> vice president mazzucco: any questions for the inspector? commissioner dejesus. >> commissioner dejesus: i've de homicide case. i've gone down to the property m and the clothing was in a paperg from the deceased. when the bag was open all these maggots and stuff came falling . i've been stunned by that. i'm reading this and you're sayg this doesn't need to be frozen.

when all this bloody clothing it doesn't need to be frozen. i'm worried about the deterioran because these trials was two or three years after the incident. it's in the bag stapled. i don't know if it's preserving. it was a biohazard. >> i understand. the working group that got toger several years back which includd the nij and the fbi. determined best practicetor preserving biological evidence. rather than freezing or air dryt and to package it. there in lies the difference. if it's properly dried it shoule no infestation issues. there was discussion about grear potential damage to biological evidence in the freezer which ws

compromised. there were compressor issue ande forming o. o-- on the inside. the potential for biological evidence to become damage in the extensive freezers, it was high. when we investigated that what e fbi was recommending and the nij and other bodies, it was clearly delineated the best way to prese biological evidence except for liquid samples was to dry and bk monitored room temperature. >> commissioner dejesus: you understand you have new facilit. do you have the ability to dry clothes, dry the clothe before u package them when they're all bloody and ripped up? >> yes. we do. we do that through the crime sce investigation's unit in the half justice. >> vice president mazzucco: any? thank you very much. any public comment with referene to line item number two.

department general 3.01 and genl order 6.02? hearing none, public comments nw closed. do after motion to adopt the amendment top this department bulletin, 18-101. >> so moved. >> vice president mazzucco: alln favor? thank you very much. please call the next line item. >> motion passes 5-0. line number three, general publc comment. public now welcome to address te commission regarding items thato not appear on the gent that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. speaker shall address the commission as a whole or dpa personnel. under rules of order during pubc comment, police or dpa personnel nor commissioner required to respond to questions presented y the public. individual commissioners and poe and dpa personnel should refrain from entering into any debates r

discussion with speakers during public comment. >> vice president mazzucco: thak you. jeremy, welcome back. >> my name is johnny miller prom director. well over a decade now i worked with families victim of police terror and violence. today i spoke with the family of derek gaines and the family of travis hall and authorized to sk on behalf both their family. they are horrified and disturbed that officer joshua academic has been allowed to harm people aga. in 2011 he's accused of burglarizing for $1000 in cash. of course june 5, 2012 was whene

assassinated 15-year-old derek gaines. april 10, he beat travis hall alongside sergeant at the time anthony montoya who is now headf the president of the poa. both who have been promoted sine this time on january 30, 2016, e assaulted and reported ones to e mario woods case. later he assaulted a peaceful protesters. now june 9, 2018 oliver is shotn the back. this is no the first time this t this psychopath i can officer hs been brought before this commission. i know we have a fairly new commission now. two current sitting commissiones were here in 2016 the last time this officer was brought to this commission. one has been stalwart defender f the people against brutal cops other has been a -- cop lover.

this blood of oliver is on your hands. i demand your immediate resignan from this body. >> vice president mazzucco: nex. >> she will speak in spanish ani will translate.

>> thank you sir. >> i'm the cousin who was murded by sfpd on april 7, 2016. i cannot believe that police commission having the precedencf cadillo that he was able to shot the young man in the back. how is possible, chief that you have these presidents that you e done nothing to take matters in your hand. i'm asking the police commissios today to take into accounted the history of cadillo. to demand chief of police he stp covering up for his officers. that he give you all the information. it's a shame chief of police tht you have murderers on your staff

and the public doesn't know abot it. we need to have all the information. this police commission needs to have all the information on the background of these officers so that corrective actions can take place this sanctuary city of san francisco, these type of lack of consequences continue. should not have murderers in yor organization. he wants to deliver and enter record this report again. >> vice president mazzucco: thak you very much for translating. >> i have a when on my be-- comt on my behalf. i work with accompanying the family. you've heard his record. he killed in 2012. he has a record in san franciscf

abusing youth of color. now, he shoots oliver, a young latino man in the back. chief, you've done one right thg since you came in to office. that was to fire christopher afr he killed kayta. i'm here to ask you to again tae that strong decisive corrective action with full support from te police commission which i assums granted. again, fire joshua cadillo. enough is enough. we will not stand for these murderers to continue on the streets. they're endangering the lives of youth in the city. youth of color. enough. we expect you to take this actin and the police commission to tae

decisive action in reviewing his record and finding him accounta. thank you. >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker. >> hello. i help prepare this report. i have six copies here for the e commissioners and the chief. some of you already receive the copy. for those of you haven't, you he one. this was the one that was previously mentioned. the chief, the commission and te entire board of supervisors received copy of this document early 2017. it recommends what i would consr the conservative reform option r the department which is that chf scott, the dpa and this commissn engage to root out entire netwok of bad cops. including the president of the .

as report mentions, this approah could mirror the reform processn dallas. it's not without precedent. hundreds of reforms being propod through the d.o.j. process that other speakers have mentioned ae entirely a joke without this bae minimum commitment to justice. is this report more thorough thn the d.o.j. and if so why? also mentioned in this report in officer who lied on the stand ad is still employed with the department. i want to be clear this is not about just joshua cadillo, the entire network of cops who are d actors. that is the conservative point f view on this matter. i would say one that takes a far more aggressive stands would acknowledge that chief scott ise highest paid chief in the nation that we have twice as many offis per capita as san jose.

we continue to kill and terrorie san franciscans with enormous amounts of our budget. we can simply cut the police but and spend that money on nonviolt ways of solving probms in the city. >> i will finish my two and a hf minute time. i'll start. i ask you to do something that l prevent cadillo from hearing, torturing or killing another pen as a cop. he must be immediately fired or short of that suspended without pay. the d.a. needs to be told by the commission to drop all charges against oliver. i agree with the last speaker. obviously this is the tip of the iceberg. it's a big problem as everybody knows.

i don't really expect the commission to do anything even h its new members on board. there seems to be a reason why justice cannot be obtained. each of you are individuals. you have the power to do someth. even there are institutional barriers to complete justice. you have a platform. you have voices. and you have consciousness. by making the statement, i have done what little i can as a ranm san francisco resident without institutional power. i will not have it on mirror conscious that i did nothing. >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker. >> my name is greg lewicki. we talked lot about transparency earlier and while transparency s good and commendable.

what we need it accountability. what we had from 2016, 2015 are issues where we keep talking abt things. d.o.j. recommendations were notg done. officers who were repeat offends for gusting actions. but yet they are on the street. we need is accountability. we need some kind of real way to interfere with what's going on rather than just saying we need more transparency so that we can keep talking about this. people are dying on the streetso don't deserve that. the poa is able to hold up issus and meet and confer the d.a. is, i guess. the independent investigations bureau does not have an moa sig. what's the hold up for that?

why are we still talking about these issues that there was movement with two or three years ago. here we are and here we are with blood on the streets and blood n your hands. it's accountability. we need accountability. >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is raphael picazzo. enough is enough. i heard you earlier say that you represent the community. the people. this is the people. represent them. we need killer cops off our streets. we don't need no more of our pee dying on the streets. scott, i been at your face befo. i talked to you before. control your officers. we got people out on the street- we got to police ourselves. we got to watch you guys out one

streets. we got videos out there making e your officers are not killing or people. we're tired. i didn't want to see any of my nephews, nieces, sons or daught, dying because they made a mistae because they got drunk and you t overzealous trigger happy cop killing our kids. because of a mistake. represent us. you say you do. represent the people. we're tired. you guys have getting caught. videos after video. two more cops got away with mur. let's do it. tasers, don't give them tasers. poa, we know they're the biggest mafia in this city. they control this city. we all know it. people sure know it. please don't let them destroy ay

more of our lives. thank you. >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker. >> good evening. my name is terry bora. i like to welcome the new commissioners and tell you thati hope so see you tomorrow. i share the crisis intervention team work group and annual award ceremony which i'm sure you will find very impressive. the people of our city have spo. 62% voted for no on h. it dysstressed me greatly to lok at the headline as i'm passing d walking my dog in the machine tt says, tasers on your agenda tonight. many of you know i'm not a natie of san francisco. came from maryland. i went to ballad school, i wento

ballad simplification school. 62% of the citizens here said nn h. the thought of meeting behind closed doors tonight distressede greatly. most disturbing. we have had public meetings. we have worked on this legislatn on these policies on the langua. i'm really, really just implorig you that this is not what the citizens expect of you after a e like this. thank you. >> vice president mazzucco: thak you. commissioner hirsch. >> commissioner hirsch: i want o clarify a public perception i kw exist. i heard it all week and i seen t in the papers. we are meeting in private sessin to meet with our attorneys and h the negotiators to talk to them

about what our legal obligations with regard to five department general orders. the use of force around tasers s one of them. nobody on the commission is suggesting that we're going to negotiate the substance of water this commission already did mons and months ago with the poa. what we're finding out is are te any issues that affect the poa t they are legally entitled to negotiate. like impact of our policy. for example, they have a right under california law to negotiae what kind of discipline will be issued in the event an officer s found to violate the policy that this commission already passed. we'll have an obligation to sit down with the poa and negotiate that. 1-2-3 the city will. we don't do do. the poa is not coming in here. we're meeting with them. we will not authorize anybody to

something that we're not legally obligated to do. prop h was defeated we know tha. we are not resuscitating prop h. >> vice president mazzucco: next speaker. >> good evening, commissioners, chief scott. i'm a police accountability consultant. i'm here out of concern for basically what commissioner hirh just talked about. it's good to hear that you're planning to meet and confer on issues that you're not requiredo meet and confer on. that's really important to hear. i'm also concerned that jonathan yank is the city attorney that's been assigned to the commission. i've been at department head. i've worked in many cities. i know that you all can requesta different city attorney. if the attorney that you have hs

conflicts and it really appears that he does have conflicts, hes represented the poa. i think he represents the poa wn the poa lost the lawsuit about meeting and conferring on use of force. i think that's a big conflict of interest. another option would be for the commission to have independent counsel. i don't think that's bad idea. it's done in other cities. again, as you just said, the pos developed really sound taser people. the poa decided or the poa saidy in advance proposition h was gog to be a referendum on how the cy feel about tasers. i think that the city spoke loud and clear. just in the last few days, a man died after daily city officers d a taser on him. these weapons are problematic ty

need to be used carefully and within policy. >> vice president mazzucco: we e supervisor cohen in the office. please come forward. >> supervisor cohen: i want to acknowledge the new commissione. good toe sue up here. we -- good do see you up here. we had a robust process. i came last week but you were in closed session. good evening and ladies and gentlemen in the public, thank u for still being vigilant and pag attention. i wanted recognize that we are n the season of the reconciliatiof a budget. mayor farrell presented a budget june 1st. my goal is to be done with the budget by june 27th. i'm going on the record i want u to hold me to that ladies and gentlemen. i want to be done with this. june 27th. we are going to full time deliberations with department of

police accountability last week. we heard from the police departt last week and i think we're goig to be hearing from folks again similar departments tomorrow and thursday. i wanted to come and give that public service announcement fore folks at home watching as well s here in the chamber. my committee and the chair of te budget committee. we will be paying attention cloy and if there are any recommendations that come out of this body, we will be listeningd ready to collectively roll up or sleeves and do the work. thank you and good luck and good night. >> vice president mazzucco: thak you for the two new commissiones they both jumped in full speed ahead. they've been in meetings all wek since they've been sworn in everyday. thank you supervisor. any further public comment. public comment now closed. >> line 4, public comment on all matters pertaining to item six closed session including public comment on vote whether to hold item six in closed session. >> vice president mazzucco: pubc comment regarding our going into closed session.

hearing none. public comment it closed. >> number five vote on whether o hold item six in closed session. san francisco alternative code section 67.10 action. >> vice president mazzucco: mot? >> i wanted to know if it's possible to raise this discussin whether or not there are portios of the agenda that already set r closed session. whether or not we can hold themn open session. i think obviously there's the questions of conferring with lel counsel which maybe proper for closed session. i think there was some questions that carried over from last week that we put on the agenda for ts week regarding mr. yank and his work. i don't think that implicates

attorney-client information. third week. i don't know if procedurally if it's possible. if this is a vote on whether to hold item six in closed sessioni would like to see if it's possie to hold a portion of it in open sessn. >> vice president mazzucco: you maybe one step ahead what happens at the end of closd sex, we have to vote whether ort what was discussed in closed session. however, if you like to make a motion, we can actually disclos. that's not prohibited by law whether or not that portion can actually be disclosed to the public. there can be separate vote ton t particular part. we have done that before where e have voted not frequently to not disclose confidential matters no matter how much we like to. other matters, i'll render furtr

opinion from our city attorney. >> as you voiced earlier, i'm vy uncomfortable with that. given that the only matters youn talk about on the agenda are the that are properly agendized. that is not on the agenda. i'm uncomfortable with that ide. i don't know if katy porter has anything else to add. she's saying no. >> i'm not clear because, i understood that this issue arose last week. we decided to put it over this week. we can do our due diligence, hae discussions with the city attory office and to determine whetherr not an actual conflict exist wih mr. yank's representation or the effect proceeds conflict on his work for the city attorney's office. it was put over before this mat. i don't understand the distinctn you trying to make.

>> distinction is pretty clear. on the agenda is to give directn to your negotiator. your labor negotiator. he's not part of that. jonathan yank role is to give advice to the dar. it's not legally required to put his name on the agenda. he's not a labor negotiator fore city. >> we're having a negotiation in open with our city attorney abot rules and procedures. i think that it needs to be agendize for another time. i suggest we don't want to go io closed session and the matter wt be heard. at this point, what we'll do bifurcate we'll do that. we need to go into closed sessis and deal with other matters.

>> commissioner mazzucco on thi. we go into closed session as wee required to do. we can have a discussion and wen vote if there's anything we wano disclose out of closed session. i think we should do that. >> vice president mazzucco: com. commissioner elias: my question was similar to his. why it wasn't on the agenda. that was just -- question that i had. >> it's not legally required for jonathan yank's name to be on te agenda because he's not a labor negotiate for for the city. his city attorney. >> i understand that. but the question was that we

[inaudible] the question is, this item of mr. yank and the appearance of e conflict of interest was an isse and we had agendized that issuet the title of le wana prestton. the issue of the conflict of interest and that issue is not agendized in the agenda that wee been provided. that is the question why it wast because that was the issue we pt over for this week to talk abou. >> i do not determine what getsn the agenda. that's up to the vice presidento place item on the agenda and the commission office. >> vice president mazzucco: com. >> commissioner hirsch: there'sn issue and the issue being raises whether a particular attorney advising us has conflict of

interest. i don't think it was clear that that specific issue was to be pt on the agenda. if it was, that's an issue for e commission office. number two, i wanted to discuss that. only way to discuss that is to discuss the background of the attorney and then what advice tt attorney has been asked to giver given to the commission. which would be privileged information. i think you'd have to get the commission to agree to waive the attorney-client privilege to discuss the type of advice he's being asked to give us in publi. if you want to do that, i guess downing it. it's not on the agenda. you got to put that on the issue going forward with ourmison office. >> there's conversation about tt last week. the issue was there's concern at that. which i understand the commissioners have individually spoken with our attorneys. members of the city attorney ofe provided their legal opinion as

your council. they become your counsel and yos the client as to whether or not that's an issue. essentially, you've been advise. that's the role they play. it's been my understanding sevel commissioners have spoken to the city attorney's office pip leard that today through an email that was sent to us regarding information that was sent to yo. again, that's not a particular m that gets agendized. we move the item in caution last week for you to learn more about this. if there's more you need to lea, we'll move it again. that's the way i see it. >> all that said and being only three weeks in, i'm find moving forward in closed session.

to the community, i'm always gog to err on the side of transpare. i'm sure i'll disappoint you as some point. as long as i have a vote up heri will try to keep things as transparent as possible. >> vice president mazzucco: do e have a motion to move into closd session. >> so moved. >> second. >> vice president mazzucco: alln favor. aye. >> motion passes 5-0. >> vice president mazzucco: lads and gentlemen we're now in closd session. [closed session].

>> (clapping.) >> in san francisco the medical examiner performs the function of investigating medical and legal that occurs with the city and county of san francisco from a variety of circumstances

in san francisco there is approximately 5 thousand deaths annually i'm christopher director for the chief mr. chairman the chief my best testimony a at the hall of justice on 870 drooint street that is dramatically updated and not sufficient for the medical chairman facility i've charles program manager public works should a earthquake of a major are proportion occurs we'll not continue to perform the services or otherwise inhabit the building before the earthquake. >> we're in a facility that was designs for a department that functions and in the mid 60s and friends scientific has significantly changed we've had significant problems with storage capacity for evidence items of property and

also personal protective if you're doing a job on a daily basis current little storage for prirjs are frirnlsz we're in an aging facility the total project cost forever ever commercial is $65 million the funding was brought by a vote of go bond approved by the voters and the locations is in the neighborhood the awarded contract in 2013 and the i'm the executive director we broke ground in november 2015 and that started with the demolition of existing facility we moved into the foundation and january so pile foundation and then with second construction of the new facility. >> one of the ways that we keep o