say african-americans are at the bottom of the list. if they are at the bottom of the list for a significant amount of time plaque i think this issue is no longer appropriate. it is an issue of state-sponsored racial subjugation. we are in the process of comparing -- preparing a complaint. we have seen residual mistreatment communities against african-american san franciscans. what i saw in 1933 when the public works administration was -- >> thank you so much. we are also holding -- we are also holding a hearing on african-american workers with the city. the oversight committee and we encourage you to attend that meeting. the next july, i don't know the date. >> the 18th of july will be the regular scheduled meeting.

>> high supervisors. my name is juliana. i am an owner and president of signage manufacturing company. we are union and l.b.e. i will take my minutes to talk about wage theft. a.k.a. cheating. you heard some testimonial prior to me and you will hear some more testimonial about that. i want to tell you a story to illustrate my side of the coin about wage theft. i signed my first p.l.a. job when i was 25 years old. i was nonunion. i was clueless. so after i signed a contract i was told i would have to go to a trade claimant meeting. i showed up for it. there were 15 other subs in the room and they were all men. there was a microphone on the stand at the front of the room. i was called to that mike and i was scared because i didn't know. i make science. i could be claimed by the different labour boards. my point is, do not confuse, do not conflate wage theft and

cheating with jurisdictional disputes. they are different. >> did you want to finish the story? >> will come back on? okay. i'm asserting that l.b.e. is not paying ten dollars an hour when they should be paying 7820. they maybe paying 76.25 an hour instead of 78.20. they maybe a dollar or two difference. they are honestly, most of the time, and you can check with ols e., these are jurisdictional issues. the contractors have a case opened up against them so there will be a case filed against us but they are often often times cap jurisdictional disputes. the label of cheat, it should not be put together with l.b.e. >> thank you. >> good afternoon members of the committee. as we raise in our may 7th

letter, we have serious concerns that a low threshold will lead to disastrous consequences for mbe and businesses. we urge you to set the thresholds high. we also urge you to consider a total l.b.e. exemption from p.l.a. coverage. was a damage is done, it is harder to fix. starting with a higher threshold, seeing how things are going, and then lowering it is a much better way to go. thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is rachel mcintyre. i'm an owner of a certified women owned l.b.e. in the city of san francisco for the past six years. the proposed ordinance would be prohibitive to end l.b.e. ' ability to participate in public works projects in san francisco. most of these businesses cannot be sustained, especially in the early years solely by public

works projects. and what this ordinance does is it would force their hand to participate or become a signatory to unions which they may not be in a financial position to do yet. and so, i believe that l.b.e.'s should be maxempt from the city wide p.l.a. ordinance so they businesses have an opportunity to be nurtured and grow and consistently with what the city of san francisco has always believed in, and purported. >> thank you. [applause] >> hello. my name is dorothy. i'm a resident of san francisco. we would like to have 100% l.b.e. exemption from the p.l.a. ordinance. we would also like a trade union to open up their membership and document to the city how they are recruiting long-term local residents who are women cap who

are people of colour back and who are immigrants. we would also like that to be documented for the city to have. i am for the l.b.e. it works for me. thank you. [applause] '. >> hello supervisors. i am a local women-owned business. i'm certified l.b.e. i've been doing business for 17 years. construction trucking. i work on the local road. with this p.l.a., it will severely hinder my ability to continue to work and provide trucking to contractors. ultimately, i think this will make me shut my doris and i will no longer be able to have a business in the city. i oppose. thank you i am a small business woman owned company.

i provide trucking services on many city projects, and i oppose the p.l.a. 's. >> thank you. >> good afternoon supervisors. i am a small business and a resident in san francisco. i oppose the p.l.a. i've been doing business here for 25 years. it has only gotten harder for me. the legislature written in the p.l.a. enters my ability to work in multiple markets. it will affect my business greatly. i will no longer be able to track if the p.l.a. is mandatory citywide. we cannot find the suppliers that will work with us on these projects. >> thank you. [applause] >> good afternoon. i am the president of the coalition for economic equity. the coalition has been around

for almost 35 years. we operate on a consensus of our member organizations. over the years, we've come together to address various legislation before the city, before the board of supervisors. in 1984, we came together to work with the city and coming together with the ordinance to provide opportunities for mbe and w. mbe staff that had been discriminated against in the past. we came together for amendments to 14 b. we come together again to address the legislation which will have an adverse impact on mbe and wbe in the city. the threshold is not which below as proposed. we think it should be 20 milli 20 million. we have circulated a draft amendment for the legislation in which -- >> thank you.

thank you so much. >> thank you supervisors good afternoon. too too -- recently last year retired from working 34 years for the human rights commission and contract compliance and contract monitoring division. over this 34 years i looked very carefully at the words and straight off, i'm sorry to say, i have to disagree with you supervisors. project labour agreement, ok? s.f.o. is a project. we will do the water bond measure and we will do the sewer bond measure. this is a blanket -- i don't see the word project. this does not apply. it is unfair. i would ask our supervisors to look carefully at that is what we could be subject to a lawsuit and also carefully looking --

creating a broken ladder rather than creating a bridge for success. [applause] >> thank you. thank you. >> hello my name is tyler. i'm part of abc north cal. i'm in the electrical apprenticeship. it is a state and federally recognized apprenticeship. if this san francisco project labour agreement is passed, apprentices like myself will not be able to work on this county and local projects due to the language in section five that was specifically excluding us. we strongly urge you to not pass the p.l.a., to allow all local residents equal opportunity to work on these taxpayer-funded projects. thank you. [applause]

>> hello. i'm a nonunion apprentice. i currently work in san francisco. contrary to popular belief, i actually am from this city. i actually went to school right up there at gray's cathedral. i've been through and through this city. a lot of us are necessarily coming from out of town. we are here. given the language in policy for the p.l.a., a lot of us are not going to be able to work and we will, likely be doomed to residential work. everybody here, everybody here is talking about making money. and having a living wage. but if you work in residential, you will not make it. i would definitely urge you to keep that in mind. >> thank you. before the next speaker, i will call up more speaker cards.

's. >> first of all i know from hands-on demonstrated experience it is true and correct that a lot of city contractors and contractors from outside of the city, when they do working san francisco, a lot of employees are not residents of san francisco. as far as monitoring the employment of females, making sure they get the same amount of

hours when they claim to be working on these sights, all you have to do is do a two week monthly accounting of the payroll of the contractor. and one more thing, when you get these contracts, i recommend not only all you board of supervisors, but especially you london breed, when you grant these contracts, developer knows how long it takes to complete a job. and you should put a protection clause in the contract and give it that if the job is not completed, any additional funds that is needed to complete the job is to come out of the pocket of the developer, not the city. the trans bay tube is a good example. millions of extra dollars is being spent on making that building. [applause] >> good afternoon supervisors. my name is rodney. i am a lifelong resident of the city and county of san francisco and a small business owner in the bayview hunter's point community.

this workforce is for me too. it is for all of us. there are a few things i would like to state that i hurried and i hope you heard. we want a 100% l.b.e. exemption from the ordinance. number 2, we want a p.l.a. that is equity for kit -- focused, equity driven. that is the only way we will get ahead. and last week which lastly we want the ability to bring our court employees on just like the other ones do. that is what makes us a viable here. and if you can take that and work with that and work with us to make this happen, then we have a cohesive plan here together and we can stay here together. thank you again. [applause] >> good evening. i came here to tell you, i'm a world war veteran, disabled veteran. when i came to san francisco after being overseas 31 months,

the only city that would give black people a fair chance, how dare anybody come in here and say anything negative about the work that's been done in this city to make people equal. it makes no difference if you are gay or straight. and i just want all of you to know, to understand most of these young people are groups. what i came out of service, the plumber's union, and that local child talked about how they would not let black people come in the front door, and even in oakland. [applause] even in oakland today, black people cannot belong to the electrical worker's union. [applause]

>> when i started it was three minutes and now it is two minutes. next week it will be 30 seconds. hold up, i'm not worried about it. queen bee will take the throne. queen bee will change anything for people that look like me. ladies and gentlemen, my name is ace and i am on the case. i am here testifying and saying what all our folks are saying. what they are really saying. this is the most racist city in the united states. i have been everywhere so i can say that. i had the luxury to travel over the world. what i'm saying is this is a new era, hold up, we ain't got no time for air as. we have no time for errors. people who look like me, everybody else has been recognized and identified. but we have been left behind in the city by the bay.

let me just say this. i'm not preaching, but i'm here to tell you one thing. [applause] >> thank you groups thank you. >> good afternoon supervisors. i will be quick. i hate to follow someone like a spear gun not quite as colourful as that. however, i am on the board. both of those organizations come up 100% for this. i've been working for good jobs for people for the last 40 years in san francisco. first with my union, now with the labor council and now working on good jobs for all. i want to tell you that the way to ensure there is good benefits and good wages for everyone is through this kind of a project.

the p.l.a. two examples i have, one of my neighbours happens to be a chinese brazilian person and they are a new start rising out in the electricians. she fell in love with one of her coworkers who happens to be african-americand th might be getting married to. so she is a second year apprentice. [applause] >> thank you. thank you supervisors. i am also a past commissioner on the small business commission. as you all know, the commission was voted on by the voters to hear the voice of small busine business, and my request is really simple. but this gets cent to the small business commission for consideration. thank you. >> thank you. [applause] >> hello.

i just finished my apprenticeship with local 38. i'm a third-year, third-generation san franciscan and i think the p.l.a. should be passed through, not only to protect the wages of workers, but the grant more opportunities for deserving people such as myself. passing the p.l.a. meets all apprentices would be union guaranteeing better quality work and that schooling and training that is provided for the union. we are in a position to take advantage of the opportunity. i think we should. thank you. >> thank you. [applause] >> my name is lamar. i may bayview rave -- resident. i'm a local 38 plumber apprentice as well. i am a graduate of city build cycle six. the p.l.a. should be passed because it does help a lot with white cake keeping our apprentices and journeymen from san francisco that went through

the training of our apprenticeships y. k. you guys spend money on our education so why not use the apprenticeship -- the apprentices that you guys trained and i think the p.l.a. is real important. i think, for me personally and speaking for use, it changed my life a lot. i'm not into you none of the things that i used to be in. and i just think for a lot of the younger youth looking up to a guy like me. y. k. y. k. >> i think that for guys like me, a lot of us, if you give us a chance to speak to some of the younger people. >> thank you. [applause] before the next speaker, i'm not strict about these rules but we really have to limit the applause.

thank you. >> good afternoon. i am a 38 apprentice. my mom is a plumber as well for the last 25 years. that is my sister sherrell. i agree with the p.l.a. equally quality for everybody. equal pay. fairness for women, like i said. i have four sisters and a mom. equality for everybody. thank you. [applause] >> good afternoon. >> please if we can give members of the public an opportunity to speak when they are at the mic i would really appreciate. i don't like to constrict people and their ability to be enthusiastic, but if it starts to interfere with public comment i will ask that people start raising their hands and their fingers as we do at other committee meetings. thank you. >> thank you. afternoon. i'm here on behalf of nonprofit

that advocates for renewable energy at that benefits low income communities. we strongly support the use of the project labor agreements. they create middle-class jobs and ensure it labor harmony and have enabled progressive social benefits and workforce development policies. other cities including seattle and los angeles have utilized mandatory project labor agreements to ensure social benefits for the communities. such as providing an entryway to the trades to provide contractors to assist local residents to commence apprenticeships. likewise, san francisco should encourage partnerships between developers get unions and job training centre is to identify the populations that could benefit from this policy. we would like to thank city administrators for their help with the l.b.e.'s and the mandatory hiring ordinance as well. >> thank you very much. >> good day supervisors. i'm here on behalf of the

council of asian american business associations. i've been a certified l.b.e. for the past three decades. the council had objected to the legislation in the form in which it was introduced because of the concerns that would undermine other city policies favouring the incubation and development of local business enterprises. l.b.e.'s are the employers of first resort and language minority communities. as you work through the legislation at craftier amendments, we would also suggest that you empower the office, the contract monitoring division to maintain a workforce data, particularly on the unions that are a signatory to the p.l.a. to assure that they journey person ranks reflect the population and demographics of the city.

>> we are a community-based organization with 49 years of history serving low income, limited english -- english proficient individuals. a lot of our work has informed local hiring laws and practices add created and participated in workforce pipelines that san francisco has invested and, and these are practices ways to address inequity and job access for dissident -- disadvantaged and marginalized communities. and also to be able to ensure that these good policies are community driven and they have been put in place and be able to address systemic inequity so san francisco jobs can remain

accessible to all workers. thank you. >> thank you. >> i am one of the first groups to be certified as an l.b.e. in the eighties. we are looking for an l.b.e. exemption. we want 100% l.b.e. exemption from the p.l.a. ordinance. and the threshold, we want at least a 10 million-dollar threshold. the obama administration and the city controller recommended a threshold of at least 20-25 million in order to protect small, minority and women contractors. thank you. >> thank you. [applause] >> good afternoon. i'm with the san francisco chamber of commerce. i want to thank the supervisors for their work to get this legislation right. the chamber of commerce just commerce has historically supported these agreements in san francisco on the major projects. we believe the boston harbor

decision makes a lot of sense when you need to deliver major projects on time and on budget. however, this proposal will conflict with other important city priorities, and that is financial and contracting leg apps to many local minority and women owned businesses. port, the p.l.a. should ben his designed to not conflict with any existing city ordinances such as preferences for local business, and resident workers. we urge you to make amendments to carve out l.b.e.'s ad women in minority owned businesses and we urge you to listen to the depar ant the contract staff that you have to ensure that this does not -- >> thank you. [applause] >> i'm the president of .-ellipsis i believe it should

increase the number, the threshold to 20 million or more. and provide for and an migration strategy where you can have african-americans come back into the unions as apprentices so that it can grow their expertise and support your family tear in the city. that is the gap that we have now. we have a lot of people who live in the city but are not african-americans. and the migration has decimated the community. this could be another incentive to create an end migration strategy where you bring in apprentices to the neighbourhood unions, to help boost the population.

i am now going to call up a number of names. thank you for having me. i represent my family. thank you for doing the program that you have been doing. my sons went to the program. they are apprentices. right now they have work at night fully support this installation. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. i also want to make announcements to members of the public that are in the overflow room. you are welcome to come into the main chamber and to speak at public comment. >> supervisors cap thank you. i had some prepared remarks after watching the number of

people that came into the room, he came to my realization that i needed to change my remarks. our brothers and sisters have provided labor to our contracting union, it is critical for our continued success. having labor supplied to us as an l.b.e. is critical. i find it ironic and sad that so many people of colour that are apprentices are in this room and not working. that should set off a big alarm. we work together to make sure we have a good good p.l.a. without l.b.e.s. without them you have no local higher. that program collapses. we carry the load when it comes to carrying l.b.e.s and local higher. never forget that. we employ people. they supply people. we drive the engine that makes it go. thank you. [applause] >> hello.

i am the president of bacon plumbing. located in san francisco in the bayview area. my son is a plumber in local 38. currently in the process of starting our second generation of a family business. the p.l.a. agreement has created so many opportunities for us to capitalize and continue our success in this city. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you supervisors. we have been in business for 40 years and i have been involved for 20. i'm also resident of san francisco. my father was an immigrant of the city with nothing in his pocket. through hard work and a business on clement street was able to show me the values of hard work and working towards a common goal. i am an l.b.e. ad i am a plumbing contractor in san francisco. i don't think the the three are

mutually exclusive. i think we can, and i think you've started the process. it is a positive process. no one should be excluded but i think there are guidelines that need to be followed. there are loopholes in the ordinances that the city has right now. i think this helps solve its. please forward the work you are doing and we appreciate the work that you do. thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon board of supervisors. i am with the sheet metal local one '04. i'm a journeyman i came into the trade in 1985. it was difficult for women to get into the business but that is no longer the case. we have continuing educations for those that wish to come into the union with a much support like myself. i am here to help others to get into that union and stay viable. we also have one of the biggest benefits of all. with some of the greatest -- we

have complete packages, both for allowing one to live a comfortable lifestyle. i happen to live in the district. because of the union wage, i'm able to live in a viable supportive community. as well as wehave nice schools. i give my full support for the p.l.a. thank you. >> thank you. [applause] >> good afternoon supervisors. my name is stephen. i am an apprentice in the sheet metal workers local union. i am a san francisco resident and also a graduate of the city academy. we do -- we need citywide p.l.a.'s. and to help families like mine to continue living in san francisco. please support the p.l.a. thank you. >> thank you.

>> hello. i am an apprentice in the sheet metal worker local 104. i am a san francisco resident and a registered voter. and also a graduate of city view. we need a citywide p.l.a. to make sure that the city goes to apprentices like me and have families like mine to continue living in san francisco. a citywide p.l.a. will also help train a new generation. >> thank you. >> hello. i am an apprentice in the sheet metal worker local 104. i'm a san francisco resident. and a registered voter.

and also a graduate of the city view academy. we need citywide p.l.a. to make sure that city workers go to apprentices like me and help families like mi with community living in san francisco. in addition, citywide p.l.a. will give responsible union conjecture, when bidding against nonunion. please stand with workers for a citywide p.l.a. thank you. >> thank you. standby mac

1400 by mac null [applause] [applause] >> thank you. >> the comments made earlier by charlie walker are completely false. i've invited him down to our apprenticeship program to see our diversity. he's never taken a step toward that. he's uninvited at this point. with that said, we've moved considerably to address the l.b.e.s. we moved bigtime. we've listened. that's why we've been having these meetings.

at least a lot of pushback coming from the lbs, coming from staff, coming from other people with personal vendetta's against the union trade. it's just antiunion sentiment. we're here to protect the workers, union a non-union workers. we're going to do that. >> thank you. >> honorable supervisors, alex lanesburg. i want to be quick. there's a bunch of information and misinformation. it's on there. i'm sorry this isn't bigger. my computer died. there were numbers being thrown around about apprentices and diversity. i want to share facts. the blue line is ibw local 6. the orange line is sbc.

another bad contractor. >> they cannot match the apprenticeship numbers of lb6. number one. when we take a look at graduation rates, again, we don't see these guys coming anywhere close to what we do. when we take a look at total enrollment over the past 16 years, over northern california, over the entire northern california -- >> it's okay if he can just finish this last slide. >> this is the last slide. local apprentices, blue line, light blue line, women. gold, abc. again, 40 times the number of apprentices done in these union programs. the abc is another bad contractor. >> thank you, mr. lanesburg.

[applause] >> good morning, supervisors. mayor elect. john doughty, electrical 6. at least been a really coordinated misinformation campaign coming across to us today here. the p.l.a. doesn't restrict l.b. contractors from bidding to work, doesn't require that they're no longer eligible to bid this work. it's in the law. we have to do that. local hire is not under threat by this p.l.a. local hire is a success because of the building trades unions in san francisco. based on the slides you just saw from alex, northern california abc who was helping to coordinate this misinformation campaign can't in half of one of the most populous states in the country cannot match the numbers we do in 49 square miles because

they don't have a complotmemitm women. they don't have a commitment to african-american -- [applause] >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervi supe. thank you for moving this forward. i'm a life-long resident of san francisco. i'm also a representative of liner workers local 377. unfortunately, i'm here about myself because all of our apprentices and journeymen are working. i represent over 3,000 members in the bay area, hundreds of apprentices and journeymen in san francisco. i urge you to move this forward and ignore the false information that's coming out from both sides. we appreciate your help. we look forward to moving this forward. thank you. >> thank you very much. [applause] >> are there any other members that would like to speak on this item before i close public

comment? please line up. step up to the mic as soon as possible. >> hello, committee members. i'm here representing the electrical contractors association. our associations members have served san francisco and the residents since 1909, employing 3,900 electricians and administrators and support staff. the association's practices encourage living wages and coverage and benefits for over 3,000 families. we partner with ibw in journeymen and training. some of the things we ensure are that we meet the local and private requirements, support numerous neighborhood programs, volunteering with rebuilding together projects, offering scholarships and internships to local students. we fully support the p.l.a. and

hope you do as well. thank you. >> thank you very much. [applause] >> seeing no other members of the public come up for this item. we'll close public comment on item no. 22. colleagues, i'm closing comments or questions. supervisor safai. >> thank you, madam chair. i appreciate everyone's comments today, those that kept it within the bounds of kind of focusing on advancing a positive conversation. i think, again, this is not an easy conversation to have. in my short time on the board, this is probably the most difficult issue that i have been involved in. i appreciate, again, supervisor fewer and peskin for engaging in this as well as the city staff along with president breed over the last number of months. i do have a few follow-up questions because i think that

base on what i have learned in these conversations over the last few months, i have heard some things that i don't find to be -- things that i find to be true as well as i think it's not helpful for our conversation to put things forward that i don't think are really factual. one of the things i want to ask directly to our city administrator is: from where we were in ouronve cations the other day, there's this conversation of l.b.e. discount or a 10% discount, how that kind of plays into the contracting process, i would like you to talk about that a little bit. and this is something we had in our conversations with the l.b.e. city folks as well as the building trades. there's a threshold in terms of contracts that -- and i believe -- correct me if i'm wrong -- 5 million and above, usually the folks that are bidding on the projects in this city, contracts in this city, that are about 5

million or more, they're almost 100% sigtory with the trades. i think this talk about threshold and excluding l.b.e.s, i think in our contracting process -- i would like you to illuminate. there's a threshold with which we see 100% of the folks that are signatory with our local building trades. can you talk about that a little bit? >> supervisor naomi kelly. let me take the first question you asked about explaining the local business enterprise ordinance quickly in a nutshell. it has evolved as prop 209 was enacted and minority and women owned business ordinance and is now our local enterprise ordinance. we buy many different types of product services in construction from the city, but when it comes

to construction, contracting a small local business can be certified to do contracting if they have an average gross receipt of $20 million over three years. and then in construction, per state law, you bid on these contracts, and the lowest bid wins the award. since then, chapter 6 has different delivery methods, but if you do the traditional low-bid method, then if that dollar amount of that construction contract is under $10 million, then the lowest bid, they happen to be a certified l.b.e., that they can prove they are principally headquartered near san francisco, have the average gross receipts of 20 million or less, and are licensed in that trade that the business is on, then they can get up to a 10% bid discount.

with all construction contracts, no matter how big or small, there's a subcontracting goal tied to that contract based on the availability of l.b.e.s that are there. when we're looking at thresholds, we're looking at -- and i don't have the numbers with me. it's something that we can come back to and provide that, but we see that a lot of the micro-l.b.e.s in the construction industry are bidding up to about 5 million. as everyone represented, frankly, we traditionally have been a union town on most of the big contracts that most of the contractors have been signatory, but i can't give you -- i just know the -- i don't have the facts here with me today. >> what you would you say is the percentage generally of the folks -- i mean, how often are l.b.e.s winning or certified, as you said, in that 5 to

$10 million range? are they winning a significant share of the contracts in the city? >> i would like to defer that information. we have here in the chamber, romulus -- >> that would be great. >> we have edgar lopez, the deputy director of public works and our city architect and oversees project management. i know phil ginnsburg is here who can talk about the work at brecken park. >> okay. why don't we call up romulus? that would be helpful. i'm trying to build somewhat of a picture of how often, how well l.b.e.s are doing in that range. i think it's a credit to the l.b.e. program in our city and how the discount plays into helping to advance and support that environment. >> so the question was regarding

how they're winning from five to ten? >> yes. at five to ten, they are -- i don't have the exact percentage, but it's definitely not as successful as that below the threshold. certainly you will see a good amount of l.b.e.s. >> so a good amount of l.b.e.s are winning in the contract range. >> correct. >> so through the city administrator kelly, you talked about the subcontracting goals, and you said up to 5 million. can you explain how that plays into our conversation today? >> so we talked about bidding as

a prime. many of the micro-l.b.e.s are successful -- >> so five to ten million. >> no matter how big or small the construction contracts are, the former human rights commission put subcontracting goals on the project, whatever is being bid. no matter if it's a $5 million project or $25 million project or larger. with that, there's no magic number. it's based on the contracting availability. the subcontract can be anywhere from, like, a million dollar or $500,000 to much more than that. that's all negotiated out. >> and so they tend to be less represented -- they're less signatory. correct? >> it all depends on how small. anecdotally, i don't have this evidence. the smaller shops that are what

we've seen. other folks could come back. the smaller shops that are, like, four people, five people, they've tended not to be union. the larger shops, a lot of those larger l.b.e.s tend to be signatory to a union. >> i'm trying to focus the conversation a little bit more for the audience. i want to help disspell some of the information that's out there. we have a program that to your credit and to the credit of the people in the city, we've created over the course of time, as you said, 14b has been in existence, and a major piece of that is the discount. that happens between the five to ten million range. some of those have spoken here today and are represented here today. they're signatory to labor. i'm sure they started out in the mic

microrange but they graduated to a signatory. that's all i have for now. also, through the chair, i wanted to call josh back up, director of city build. mr. arsay, so for the audience, some of these questions i already know, but sometimes i ask questions so we get it on the record. for those listening, the audience. how long have we been in existence and how long has the business been in the city? how does that interface with this conversation? and then i have a follow-up question. >> okay. absolutely, supervisor. josh arsay, city build. city build was established in 2005 and began training candidates in the community starting in 2006. it was an initiative that was

cataali cataalized. it's graduated more than 1,200 graduates going back through what is starting now in the third week of our 29th class. it's an 18-week program. you can do the math in terms of two classes a year, sometimes during the summer. as i mentioned, sometimes we recruit with organizations in our most disadvantaged communities. we're trying to find workers of color, women, limited english-speaking, formerly incarcerated, to help them gain access to the construction industry. our partnerships are with jointly administered apprenticeship programs and the counterparts of the training centers. they're called jtcs.

to your point, i think very specifically, ischow it works, when we graduate city build pre-apprentices who are ready to become apprentices through our partnerships with the building trades -- as i mentioned, they were 49 graduates -- they go in and become apprentices, then the contractors go out, win contracts, it's everything covered under the mandatory local hire ordinance -- >> i'm just going to trust you one second. i'm going to say for the record that as part of the conversations, we made a strong affirmation in this joint agreement to say local hire would in no way, shape, form, be undermined by an alternate agreement in the p.l.a. >> i haven't seen the

information in the details. i'm speaking to the general way we do business. if you're a contractor, you have requirements to have a 30% local workforce on every single classification on workers you bring on the job and 50% local apprentices. in order to reach city build grads, you can think of it honestly. a lot of them are working too. there's 1,200 out at the moment. the only way to bring them on the job is to work with the labor partners we work with to bring them into the apprenticeship. that's the thing about the way it works. >> i know you haven't had a chance to read this, but just in your experience and the time you've been working with city build and i know you were involved with local hire. do you see this as a way to strengthen, as a pathway to enhance and support the work you're doing at city build,

potentially? >> i do. i mentioned in a project labor agreement, you have all of the partners together at the table. i do absolutely want to be cognizant of the concerns of the l.b.e. contractors. again, these are a lot of contractors who are out there who have testified and started with the tools and became company owners, and they benefit from the l.b.e. program that you said is successful and being replicated around the country, most recently san jose. i think a project labor policy that puts everyone together at the same table and addresses these policies, is going to continue to allow us to expand city build like we're going with glen eagle, doing training inside the jail, all these things mean more graduatescome out, there are more contractors

working with our trainees. all these programs and things, we want to make sure they're sustained under whatever policy we take, but we're ready to make it work. >> thank you. i don't have any other questions right now. >> thank you, supervisor safe -- supervisor safai. >> supervisor peskin. >> first, i could like to move -- by the administrator. i would like to set out at least where i'm coming from, which is a do-no-harm theory, which is to say that we've done p.l.a.s before. as a matter of fact, they did not only not do harm, they did good. and the question here is: what is the mechanism for

independently assessing whether any of the stated fears from the community are actually coming to pass? to that end, i think there's a role for our independent controller to play in making those assessments through an agreed upon set of metrics and whta, what we want to see, her it's work stoppages, whether it's demographics, whether it's l.b.e.s who have been adversely impacted. so it is in that area -- i just want to be transparent with everybody -- that the negotiations are moving. i really want to thank, actually, ms. troy and mr. garza, who have been very helpful in those negotiations and look forward to some good faith, tough negotiations over the next few days. and if the committee adopts it, there's nothing like having a deadline toove things along.

so i would ask that this be scheduled at the next regularly scheduled meeting of the government and audit oversight committee so that the pressure stays on all of us to get this done. >> thank you so much, supervisor peskin. supervisor peskin has made amendments to items number 22. can we take those amendments without objection? and we can. i just want to take this opportunity to thank all of our stakeholders for engaging in vigorous negotiations over the last couple of weeks. this has been pending for over a year. it's great that we're finally making movement and having a dialogue amongst our building trades, minorit contractors, city departments, and naomi kelly, our city administrator. i look forward to these continuing conversations around the scope of the work that a

p.l.a. would cover, the source of revenue for the programs that would be covered under the p.l.a., the threshold, and core workers which came up in public comment. i do feel like we're really making aot of good steps forward. i look forward to an agreement that we will all be unified around, which will increase worker protections and ensure that we are providing all of our trade workers with the benefits and the wages that they deserve as we continue to grow our city, but to allow our minority contractors to continue doing work with the city and to compete for many of these projects as well. so i do just want to acknowledge everyone's work and also want to give a special thanks to supervisor peskin, fewer, and safai for taking on the leadership for these negotiations. we do have a motion to continue this to the next gao committee. i would suggest that we continue it to the call of the chair

because we have only one scheduled committee meeting in july, and we have a number of items for that meeting as well. >> you are the chair. i just want to make one point about the core employee issue, which is -- there was actually very good negotiations around that where i think the contractor community, the city departments all came together. so part of the reason to have these hearings and not make a vote today is to people can actually sink their teeth into it. i heard comments from a woman-owned business who was worried. the way it's written is at at least two. i actually think that the building trades and the contractors, both of whom are signatories, understood that this would actually get hammered out in the p.l.a. itself. i just want to put that on the table. it's not as onerous as it looks.

>> it is my understanding that it's a minimum of two workers that's been reached an agreement by now, which will later get negotiated after we pass this ordinance at the board. so supervisor safai? >> thank you, madam chair. i just want to re-emphasize some of the points that supervisor peskin said here at the end. there's some important conversations that we had in our negotiations that are not reflected in the updated version that you all get. i know that a lot of reaction today was based on an older version of the legislation. that often happens. unfortunately because of drafting, because of timing, because of where we are in the process of negotiations, what's online and what is available to the public is not what we are actually working on. we may be two or three steps ahead, and it's just based on the legislative process. i want to be clear. i think there was a lot of consensus on both