>> president kwon: good afternoon, everyone. welcome to the tuesday, june 26 meeting of the san francisco

public utilities commission. call to order, madam secretary. >> roll call. [roll call] we have a quorum. >> president kwon: thank you. item 3 is approval of minutes from june 12, 2018. commissioners, any discussion? >> i'd like to move the item. >> second. >> president kwon: any public comment on the minute of june 12? seeing none, all in favor? opposed? approved. item 4. general public comment. members of the public may address the commission on matters within the commission's jurisdiction and not on today's agenda. if we have anyone here -- i have one speaker card for peter druckmire. welcome.

>> good afternoon, president kwon, and commissioners, thank you for the opportunity to address you. i wanted to give you a short document that we put together that talks a little bit about sfpuc water rights and storage and what might happen should the bay delta water quality control plan come into effect. our conclusion is that we'd see tremendous environmental benefits with minimal economic risk. i hope you get a chance to look that over and hope we get a chance to work together on that to achieve the state's co-equal goals. thank you. >> president kwon: thank you very much. any other general public comment for item 4? item 5, communications. commissioners, any discussion? >> if i might, on the pipeline

assessment, there's a discussion of various impediments to meeting our objectives for how many miles of pipeline would be inspected and repaired and talks about the difficulties of the projects and the length of time it takes to actually move those projects along and the costs associated with them. one thing it doesn't address is if those are projects that take a long time, are there other projects that can stand in their place so we continue to meet the mileage objective, not by those projects, then by other opportunities that we have? that's a question to staff or i

guess it would be responded to later. >> general manager for water. there are two aspects to that. one is the contract for mileage that can't be replaced out. once we get involved in a project, we cannot take money out of that and put it into the. that's one aspect of that. for our needs replacing the water meters, valve exercise, things of that nature. so our staff is gainfully employed doing other work that they would be reserved for working on that. they can be redeployed, but not the contract dollars.

>> commissioner moran: i guess that does it. i guess it's just -- some of the -- i guess i have a question then. how much of that money is required for some of the inspection of directives? if it's lower cost than replacement -- >> the inspection work is primarily in the wholesale area, not the retail area. and that is just straight staff time doing that. that's not contract dollars. >> commissioner moran: and it did say that staff was looking at opportunities for reprioritization, given our experience with those multiagency projects. as that work progresses, if you could report back to the commission as to where you see opportunities for doing that? >> yes, we've been working with

wastewater staff to try to get a better grip on that. >> commissioner moran: at the end of the memo, it talks about a leak in the regional water system during the reporting period. the leak was caused by seismic ground movement. was that one of the pipelines that was recently upgraded? >> no. it was a pipeline that was not upgraded or portions of it were, but we had a larger section, i believe it was two years ago, that we had to replace. so we're keeping an eye on that. it's running back and forth across the fault, so it's an awkward piece of pipe to deal with. we haven't found a good, permanent solution for that part of the pipeline yet. >> commissioner moran: thank you. >> president kwon: any other public comment under communications? with that, item 6, other commission business. i turn it over to

president-elect vince courtney. >> commissioner courtney: counting votes already. thank you, president kwon. i asked ms. hood to place a couple of images on the screen, if you can do that by our friends at sfgov tv. thank you. so i wanted to just take an opportunity to thank the general manager for joining us last week, when we recognized that three individuals from c.d.d. -- and i know it's not easy to find the time sometimes to recognize the workers, especially the field workers. but this particular honor is in the name of brothers anthony montoya and anthony montoya jr., both with the department of public works and both who have since passed away. anthony montoya sr., former with 261, and montoya jr. passed away while working for public works.

so we recognized some individuals at our 8th annual montoya recognition and the general manager was able to join us and the director was able to join us. and i wanted to share it with my colleagues, share it with the audience, and make a public thank you to you for showing up and recognizing the workers. thank you very much. >> president kwon: thank you. commissioners, anything else? is there any public comment for other commission business? okay. item number 7, we have a special recognition, and i will turn it over to general manager, kelly. >> it gives me great honor and privilege to recognize two labor leaders. if i could have mike theriault and james b. wood jr. come up to

the podium? so first of all, just wanted to personally give a shoutout to both of you. i think something that we worked on that really helped our agency really address our infrastructure need and that was working with you to create one of the biggest project labor agreements. i think it's one of -- it's a model project labor agreement and we liked it so much we added to it. we added another $12 billion on the $4.8 billion project labor agreement. and i think vince and i actually signed that. that was at the southeast community facility, where we added just a little $12 billion on to that. what is really unique and really lost when we talk about project

labor agreement, is the way we help small businesses and communities and working with c.b.o.s and the whole training effort and i think that's something that needs to be highlighted and all the great work that you worked with us when we had a cohort of women in construction. and so i just find great pleasure working with you guys because the values that we have as an organization really dove tail in how we work the project labor agreement and we worked well together and that's why we want to continue this partnership and i think it had a lot to do with both of you and that's why i really wanted to tell both of you -- so mike theriault is secretary and treasure of the building and construction trade council of the afl-cio. so i just wanted to say that and i wanted to give you an

opportunity to say a few words. >> this has been a phenomenally successful public project. you look around the bay area at other projects around the country, for that matter, and projects where they've gone overbudget, bogged down in conflicts and so on. it's a tribute to your staff, in large degree, but also to the p.l.a. maybe some of you never knew, but it was achieved at a very difficult time in the labor movement, when there was a major division, when carpenters and labors were professional alliance and the others, building. and nevertheless, we were able to coalesce and putting to a functional agreement and an agreement that succeeded so well, as harlan said, we have

willed it over for more work in the sewer system improvement program. one of the real delights for me, in discussions early on, your staff recognized the opportunity in other parts of the jurisdiction that your project -- the area your project would cross to reach into communities, to give opportunities for individuals in those communities that might not otherwise have found their way into the trades, to use this project as leverage to get them into the trades. for a project that was involved in strengthening pipelines, it did one of the things that i preached ever since i took my position as secretary/treasure on april fools' day, 2005. and it's strengthens pipelines to apprenticeships and trades. i'm thankful to you for that. it's been a great success. applause to all of you. thank you. [applause]

>> if i may, before michael steps aside and we talk about brother wood, it's been a pleasure of my personally to work with you so closely as a colleague since 2004. and i think you hit the nail on the head when you were talking about working with the community and all the other bottom lines. the building trades unions including my own, have oftentimes gotten a bad wrap. way back when, it was probably legitimate to charge us with being bad actors. with your leadership, we have successfully turned a corner and become not just not bad actors, but good actors. you don't get enough credit for bringing people together, your work with young community developers. having been elected by all of these different affiliated local unions in the building trades, that in and of itself is a heavy

lift. herding those cats, i don't believe you've ever not been successful at ratifying an agreement you negotiated. you've been an outstanding labor representative for the laborers, electricians, carpenters, and everybody else. tim paulson is in the room, pat mulligan is in the room. we get elected and that keeps us honest. we're overseen by the department of labor. there is absolute transparency and you've done nothing short of an outstanding job, so thank you very much for all your work. [applause] >> next, james, your turn. so james is -- brought his leadership to the labors and international unions of north america local union 1130 since 1978.

and he worked on numerous projects, including engineering for spider dam, hunter dam, ferry tunnel, cliff house tunnel. oh, wow. you were on cliff house. and you served a wide arrange of posts, auditor, executive board member, recording secretary, president. and so i just wanted to say thank you for, you know, working with the p.u.c. and working on the project labor agreement and then when we had issues, we knew we could come to you and you would help to resolve the issues. i want to personally thank you as well. >> thank you, harlan. thank you to the board. thank you for the recognition. congratulations to mike. like i say, i started in 1978, so i have 40 years working for

the laborers union. i worked in the field, mostly mining and tunneling. it was a marvel how you got the water from the reservoir down here to san francisco. so i was always happy to work on those jobs whenever i could work at home, it was a gold nugget. working through that and through all that tunnel work, and i've become active in my local union hall, and then i grew and i was chosen as a field rep, i always had heche hechy here and what you bring to the counties and how you work in the city. so pretty quick, i started getting on work force development boards and then we started seeing the opportunities for trainings and collaboratives

and valerie come up and brought her crew and we started working on collaboratives in regard to an all-woman cohort, which just went crazy. all of the 12 women, 10 went to work and probably 6 are still working. and then went into another cohort and there's success story after success story. oscar runs northern california. he brought how you work with the city, the community, and my job in my heart, i always like to see people go to work because i know how i felt when i got to go to work. so when i had the opportunity to put these people to work, i got paid to do that. it was like -- can you believe -- you have a job that you like and you get to put people to work. it was a beautiful way to end my

career. with our training center. it's just not me. all this came together with a team. i can't start saying names because i will forget somebody. but what we learned and how you run it in san francisco is how we're working in our county and it's's great success. and thank you for coming up there and addressing our board up there also. i know vince. i'm proud to see vince on this commission. we have a lot of connections. i could go on and on. i am currently retired. a long time ago, they did a little program on me and my working and connected to tunnel work and one of these things that this guy put in -- i gave a lot of quotes about tunnel language, but he puts in here,

because i worked all over the state, and all of your big tunnels in san francisco, "from the rolling hills of the central valley to the steep streets of san francisco, to the hard rock of the sierras and to the concrete of los angeles, from there i went to 2549 yosemite boulevard labor local 1130 and now i've left there add 1109 racetrack road sonora, california." i'm proud of what i've done and i'm proud of what you guys do and i thank you very much. i did not expect this at all. >> thank you. [applause] >> president kwon: before you sit, and i want to apologize to the people in the audience and people on tv maybe not as much, but i could do this all day. and i could do this all day because this is really, really

meaningful stuff. it's not necessarily that highlighted agenda that we do here at the public utilities commission, but it's really without people and leadership that -- none of it works. jim, it's been an honor and pleasure for me to work with you to call you my brother and my friend. this truly is family. i've learned so much from you, working with you. for those of you that don't know, i've had opportunities to work in local 1130, in modesto, california, to stay there. there's a hot hoetle right off an 9. to negotiate contracts. and to learn from dave and jim and josh out there. jim dressed for this, no lie. [laughte [laughter] >> commissioner moran: the heroes are not the people that talk about work force development. the heroes are the people that are doing it. jim has always done it. he's worked side by side with

these trainees, apprentices, pre-apprentices. he's mentored them. mike, you have, too. that's how you get it done. you don't get it done by putting on a tie and pressing a shirt and talking about what it should look like. you get it done by doing it. jim, you've always done it. you've always led by example. you've always been about action. to lose both of you at the exact same time, it's truly a loss for us. thank you, again. [applause] >> can you step up to this area?

[applause] >> commissioners, i would just like to acknowledge there's a lot of support for both the gentlemen in the audience and thank you for acknowledging them today. >> president kwon: thank you.

congratulations, again, gentlemen. anything else? so in your discussion on item 7, any public comment in addition to what we had on item 7? okay. leonard, leonard's coming. leonard. mr. gonzalez, welcome. >> good afternoon. to the commissioners, guests, brothers, sisters, you know, really wanted to take the time to come out and come into the city and acknowledge both mike and jim for all their hard work and also really to thank your board, your commission, on your support, your leadership, your guidance. you know, you -- you're here in

the city and we're -- we cover a lot of the nine counties that this project covers. and jim touched on it a little bit. when you have mentors like jim and mike that have been in the industry and when you are looking at candidates to come into this industry, we have a lot of -- i just introduce myself. leonard gonzalez, sdek tifr director, -- executive director, labor center, northern california. we have work force development, training, working with contractors, and developing opportunities in the industry that may not have access to the jobs. and so when you have these individuals that are going out actively recruiting, guest

speaking, shadowing. it's just a huge reel source for the candidates. and there are -- there's a lot of success stories out there. and not just in programs like you support but throughout the area that we cover. jim's right, the female cohort was amazing. the fact that you invested in that and supported that -- i was in the center, we had a group come up from oakland unified and san leandro. there were 50 individuals that were up. we had about 15, 16 women, young ladies that were part of that group and we had two females that were in our fundamentals class, which means they've been out in the field working for over 1,600 hours. that's a lot. they've put in some time. i'm happy to report that two of the ladies that came to speak at

high school, one of them is taylor. taylor is a graduate from your program. if i can show the picture, taylor's running the crew out there with a group of 20 men. taylor's pouring concrete, running the concrete pump. and she's barking orders. the one thing she said, she was on probation. her probation officer referred her. she's making a great living, making good money, but it's a tough industry in which shes will to be assertive with the gentlemen. thank you so much. that's just one success story out of many. thank you for the opportunity and thanks to mike and jim for your work. [applause] >> president kwon: thank you. >> the chair granted me a moment of personal privilege. i want to acknowledge massoud and todd for all the work they

do to coordinate with the trade unions, working with mike, leonard, james, thank you for the work you are doing behind the scenes. appreciate it. [applause] >> president kwon: any our public comment on item number 7? with that, report of the general manager, please. >> first item is an update of clean power s.f., barbara hail. >> barbara hail, assistant g.m. for power. we'll cover service to customers, enrollment and regulatory activities. so we're continuing to serve around 81,000 customers. our opt-out rate and upgrade to super green is the same. so no change to report there. steady as she goes. everything is moving along successfully. on enrollment, we're turning to our -- excuse me, we're in the

middle of our july auto enrollment. we're mailing our enrollment notices now. that enrollment will increase the customer count to 105,000 accounts. they're mostly commercial. 170 customers have opted out since we started the enrollment process for the july phase. and we have 114 customers that have opted up to super green within that time period. on the regulatory front, i reported before that the california public utilities commission had issued what they're calling the customer choice report or the green book and it raises questions about how the state will achieve affordability, decarbonization in the increase of customer choice and that's in the form of programs like clean power sf, where customers are migrating

from service by pg & e to service from us for their generation component of their service. it also comes in the form of customers choosing to install solar on their rooftop or participating in demand-reduction programs, different ways that the utilities are seeing a reduction in their supply responsibilities. and for the california p.u.c., it's raising fears that c.c.a.s and customers choosing to take the difference steps compromises the goals that i just mentioned, decarbonization, reliability, affordability. in the face of raising the fears, it's also saying that they have no plan for addressing the fears that they're raising and it offers no solutions, basically flags the need for

unspecified regulatory or regulated changes. so the p.u.c. held a legislative-style hearing on friday, june 22. we were invited for our perspective as an operating c.c.a. and a member of the community choice coalition, trade association, c.c.a. san francisco was invited specifically to participate on the affordability panel. in that setting, we addressed three key areas that c.c.a. service is affordable, as affordable as the for-prof for-profit utility, and accountable, transparent and that c.c.a. prioritizes social equity. it was a day-long hearing. the participation we had

specificallies with an hour-long panel, brief remarks, and then back-and-forth q & a with the panel members and commissioners. they concluded the hearing saying that they intend to take action on the report in some form. wasn't specified. by october. i will also mention that we're starting to see some of the legislative activities that the report may be generating as well and will report to you more on that as circumstances evolve together with our policy and government affairs team. with that, i'm happy to take any questions. thank you. >> president kwon: any public comment on this item? okay. item 8b, please. >> next item, section 541, michael carlin will give you an update. >> michael carlin, deputy

general manager. as we discussed at our last meeting, we talked about the house appropriation bill and a particular section that was section 541. since that time, we've received a letter from senator dianne feinstein, who is the ranking member on the senate side, in the same committee, basically stating her opposition to section 541 and has sent that to the chairs of both appropriation committees in the house and senate and ranking members on both of those committees. in the interim between receiving her letter, we've a letter from mayor mark farrell stating his opposition to the same section in that bill and that letter has been delivered to the same members of the house and senate appropriation committees. so i would be glad to answer any questions at this time. >> i guess i want to express appreciation for your work, working quickly to address this

issue, and for helping facilitate san francisco going on record opposing this rider, because i believes in our best interests and it's important for us to take strong positions like this when we're talking about something as important as the licensing. so i appreciate that and look forward to continuing to hear about what the next steps are and if there are other opportunities for us to express our voice. >> sure. >> president kwon: anything else, commissioners? all right. open up to public comment. i have two speaker cards. first, mr. peter druckmire. >> hello, again. i just want to thank your staff and especially michael carlin and eileen lamb for taking this

seriously and working to get san francisco on the record as opposing. i know they put a lot of effort into this and they really appreciate it. the whole concept of the riders to undermine environmental laws is ridiculous. we're going to see more and more of them. we're already seeing a lot of them. different interests trying to take advantage of the current situation in d.c. and i know that san francisco residents, if they were aware of this issue, work really appreciate sfpuc doing the right thing on this. we did have a lot of people lined up to come together and gave them the afternoon off, so they appreciate the fact that they didn't have to come, but i think it's important to hear appreciation where it's due, so perhaps we should have had them come and say thank you. we appreciate your staff. >> president kwon: thank you, peter. next is mr. barry nelson. welcome, mr. nelson.

>> thank you, chairman kwon, and members of the commission. i would like to thank the commission and thank the staff as well, especially michael carlin, for their work on this item. the two letters that staff mentioned, they were modest and we're confident that it wouldn't have happened without you taking up the issue and the staff's involvement. because the city has gone on record and senator feinstein has taken the position, it will help us with this and other anti-salmon riders as well. we know there are other riders coming between now and the end of the year, so i want to thank you for standing up for san francisco's fishing industry. thank you. >> good to see you. >> in the spirit of appreciation, i do want to thank peter and barry for your work

on this and bringing this to our attention. and we want you to continue to do so, especially as we see different threats and riders coming forward. so thank you. we appreciate your guidance. >> president kwon: any other public comment on 8b? okay. >> that concludes my report. >> president kwon: okay. we'll move on to consent calendar. >> we have one item on consent, 9a, approve amendment number 2 for cs-324a and agreement for four years and six months with no change to agreement amount. >> move approval. >> second. >> president kwon: any public comment on this item? all in favor? opposed? approved.

next item. >> clerk: authorize general manager to excuse amendment two to the gas pipeline cross bore agreement to pacific gas and electric for term of 6 1/2 years. >> michael carling again. extension of an agreement that we've had with pacific gas and electric for a while. extension is needed to complete work in the field and clear our sewer lines. >> i would like to comment on this. >> president kwon: sure. >> i'm astounded that we're doing this extension. this was supposed to be completed, what, 1 1/2 years ago? >> they've completed most of their inspections, but we've run into problems where they cannot get their cameras up the sewers, so we're having to go back in and having to either clean the sewers or we're doing proximity

analysis, where they're giving us drawings of where they installed their gas pipelines. and we have -- and some of them are associated with streets that we have have to close. and working with m.t.a. to get closure permits. so it's taking longer than we thought, but they've been executing this agreement fairly consistency over time and our staff has been working with them throughout this entire period. >> i still feel that three years is way too long. it was their fault initially and it should be corrected. >> and we're hoping that we can wrap up all the field work in about 1 1/2 years and then it will be just tying up loose ends. so three years is what i thought was reasonable at this point in time. it's a lot of work. i understand.

>> one of the things that i understand is that we're in an odd position that if there is no agreement to extend, there is no agreement at all. >> correct. >> commissioner moran: as far as us having good-faith relationships that they're effective to get the job done, we're missing out. i understand the need to extend. the question is, whether there is any specific performance requirement in there or whether it's an agreement that hopefully they will get it done one of these days. >> there's no specific performance requirement of how many miles of sewer they have to inspect on a weekly or monthly basis, but we get a report and we have a two-week, look-ahead report that said wherever they will be.

if it's a priority 1, it has to be fixed within so many hours, so that's a metric that we actually look at. and we're discovering things in our sewers like electric lines, and we're moving those as well. it's no specific time, but they have multiple crews out there every day. it's a question of trying to get to all of this. we have 1,200 miles of sewer pipeline and laterals, so it's quite a bit of work for them to accomplish. >> commissioner moran: is there a schedule for that work? >> schedule for -- >> commissioner moran: the work that remains to be done. >> it's a rolling, two-week-ahead schedule of where they will be and what they're trying to accomplish. do you want a weekly schedule? >> commissioner moran: what i'm hoping that we can establish, absent a specific performance included in the agreement that there is -- that we can bring some visibility to the issue and

to the bully pulpit establish some accountability to establish they're proceeding diligently and the same sense of urgency that we bring to the table to get the issues resolved. and i don't know if the report you get is the basis for something like that that you can produce for the commission. but it would ease my concerns it have some way of tracking the efforts that are taking place and making sure that they're continuing to receive, you know, highest level of attention by pg & e and ourselves. >> the information that we receive on a weekly basis, we can roll it up to a quarterly report to show you what has been accomplished and then break it down to where we're running into issues, such as we can't get into the sewer for various reasons and where it has to be coordinations with m.t.a. or others. we can do that. we have all that information at this point in time.

we have the number inspected. number to be inspected over the next year and then the number on a weekly basis. >> commissioner moran: i would find that very helpful. >> sure. >> what do you mean by commission performance? the agreement mandates -- it defines repairs that must be made and they must complete those repairs. so extending the term by which they have to complete it, but the contract, which is a binding contract, mandates that they perform the repairs. >> commissioner moran: and that's for defects that have been discovered? >> correct. >> commissioner moran: that they have to correct. is that also covering the process of inspecting and resolving what you discovered in inspection? >> yes. and we get cost recovery from that for our inspectors to be in the field and such. so we physically look at the correction being made. >> commissioner moran: and what is -- is there recourse provided

that if their efforts flag -- that we can get redress to address that or -- >> if they don't perform? >> commissioner moran: yes. >> there is redress. >> what is it? >> we can perform the work ourselves, which would be dangerous with a gas pipeline going through the sewer, but they have to do it within a certain amount of time. there are no fines, but we would take action against them and probably sue them. >> this was the heart of the settlement that arose out of that, that if they did not fulfill their obligations under the contract -- >> commissioner moran: i hear the concern that we set out a timeline for this to happen in

the first place and that hasn't happened. so that would indicate some degree of nonperformance and i don't want to just extend in an environment that that would continue un-noticed until we're faced with another need to extend. if -- my concern would be substantially dealt with if during the course of the agreement that interests a periodic reporting that demonstrates they're due diligence and proceeding to address the issue. i would prefer financial penalties, but that's late in the game for that. >> we're getting cost recovery on the program at this point. >> i would like to see those guidelines set forth before i vote on this personally. right now, i'm going to vote

against it because it goes back to 2013. it's been quite some time. >> but i would say that the timeline in which we estimated to do the work was probably optimistic. going and televising each of the laterals, when some of the laterals are disconnected, some are sewer lines, i mean -- and i think what's been very helpful is now we have televised a whole bunch of the sewers that that he were planning on doing. so we're getting a lot of data. we're seeing a lot of issues with our sewers. and so i just want to say that we feel they've put crews on it and seeing progress. i think what i hear from you guys is that it would make you feel more comfortable if we had -- if we can identify how much of the sewers they've looked at

and deemed okay or how many corrections were made and how much is remaining and then an estimate of, you know, giving that progress, what's the timeline to complete. given that we know their rate of inspection. right? >> i was going to say that in 2013, the timeline was fought set based on a complete analysis of what it would take to complete the work. it was put in there in that we need to start and then there's a ramp-up that needs to occur. one of the other things that we have in the contract is we have to give us the information in a way that we can assimilate it into our asset management system and go through a classification of assets that were not in the system before. there's a lot of be use. we want to be sure that they stay on track to complete the field work. that's the most important thing in my mind is to keep the crews

in the field and the rest of it is getting information back from them and using that. we can get a report of what been repaired, miles completed to date, miles we hope to complete this year. all of that is readily available. we do a weekly report that comes to me that i see how it's progressing. >> i want to point out, and what michael said is important, the term of the original agreement was not based on them finishing. it was a timeline to get started and to do all that. but i do recognize that now you want a timeline and all that and we can put that together. >> would it be appropriate to continue this item? >> i would suggest that. >> president kwon: we can continue this item, number 10. >> we should have a motion. >> president kwon: do we have a

motion to continue this item? >> i'd like to move that. >> second. >> president kwon: before we vote, any public comment? >> i have one question on the continuance. what other implications to that? what are the implications of continuing to next meeting or next month or whatever it would take to provide the information needed? is it going to hold up the continued work? >> i can't remember the expiration date off the top of my head. i think it's -- it's retroactive, so we're out of contract compliance -- we don't have a contract. >> is their work continuing? >> yes. we want to make sure that it continues and they don't stop. >> so if there's a continuance, you would prefer for it to be done in due haste so we can continue the work? >> yes. i would say if we need more information, that's fine, and i

talk to -- >> so the question, so we can have clear direction, if we give you the information where we feel they're making progress and this wasn't based on the -- the duration wasn't based on you completing, i'm trying to understand what would make you vote then versus now when we're just going to provide you information. is there information that you will see that you would have reservations? i'm just trying to understand. >> i would like to address that first. it's been five years. and i would like to see what work they have done. and i would like a report on that. and maybe you can just mention it now, but perhaps you have to look into it. >> yeah. i don't want to misquote. >> right. i understand that. if we have the information by the next meeting, i would be better prepared to vote on this.

>> okay. >> commissioner moran: it would be helpful for us to be clear as to what the obligation is that's created as part of the settlement agreement. that has certain implications, i would assume, so as part of the follow-on, if we can be clear about what the nature of the contract is and how it's enforced. >> president kwon: all in favor of continuing this. opposed? okay. item 11, please. >> clerk: item 11, confirm and approve the analysis and conclusions set forth in the revised water supply assessment for proposed india basin project. >> steve ritchie, general

manager for water. this is a little different because you approved the water supply assessment for the project back in december, 2016. the reason why it's here before you again is since that time, the project has been modified a bit to replace commercial development with housing for the project, so it results in a small increase and demand that we would expect for the project. again, asking for your approval for this to go forward to planning so they can complete ceqa necessary for the india basin project. >> president kwon: discussion? >> commissioner moran: i move approval. >> second. >> president kwon: public comment? with that, all in favor? opposed? motion approved. item 12, please. >> clerk: item 12, authorize general manager to negotiate and execute a grant agreement with

the san francisco unified school district for the amount not to exceed $370,000 with the duration of four years. >> good afternoon, commissioners. yolando manzoni. we have a very exciting opportunity that builds upon the goal that we have here at the p.u.c. to groom the next generation of environmental stewards to care for our water, power, and sewer infrastructures and you may recall when we presented on our big idea literary framework and that was trying to understand what are the learning objectives specific to the sfpuc that we want to ensure every student in san francisco understands, like where our water comes from, what happens when you flush the toilet? and we built out a framework

that tied to the next generation of science standards and s.t.e.m. curriculum, science, technology, engineering and math. and now presented with a unique opportunity that comes around a little less than once in a generation and that's the school district in the process of updating their curriculum to align with their new standards. and so what disagreement we'll provide for is allow us to partner with the school district to tangibly integrate the framework into specific curriculum so that all 56,000 children in san francisco unified school district will have from kindergarten through 12th grade specific classes taught about p.u.c. water, power, sewer. specific examples is rather than just teaching about watersheds, they will ground it in specific examples related to the het

hetch hetchy water system. and instead of climate change, how buses are powered. so we think it's an exciting opportunity to tangibly implement these initiatives and reach the 56,000 children represented in the school district. >> i'm down with it. it sounds great. you are enthusiastic about it. are we having any conversations with the young people, young human beings, about animal agriculture and what extent it impacts water delivery, dead zones, conservation? is that anywhere in big ideas? >> if we're having any conversations around -- >> animal agriculture? >> i will just refer to blair, who is really the head of our

education and so if he has any specifics on that. off the top of my head, i'm not sure, but i can look into it. >> afternoon, blair anderson. there's no specific mention of animal agriculture, but there is with high school kick -- chemistry and biology. >> i will defer to commissioner vietor, but over the past year, with the different administrations -- we had mayor lee, mayor breed, mayor farrell and breed again. but the conversations are extremely valuable to us. met with tyrone juice and a.g.m. ellis on this issue. i think it's critically important. coming from a hard hat seat, it's critically important to

talk about animal agriculture when it comes to the resource. for too many facts to go into, the fact that i already had a thoughtful and deliberate conversation with staff about that and this shows up on the agenda is a small concern of mine, but i think francesca is more capable than me of having that discussion and i will follow her lead, but i'm not happy with the fact that we're going with big ideas without a really important big idea included. >> let me respond to that. first of all, the big idea book, we've been working on for years and we presented it. and so we're at a point that we've been working with the unified school district to put in these ideas. these ideas are simple, basic, that you can teach in schools. and i really want to do the basic stuff. if you want to go into animal -- -- to me, that is something that

-- we just wanted to keep it simple, big ideas. if you want something that is more, you know, detail-specific, there are other ways that we can do it. we needed a book. to add stuff to that at this late time in the game, i think is a problem. so, i mean, i'm -- i'm totally trying to seize this opportunity of putting these big ideas into the school district, you know, and we've been working towards that and we presented it to -- and working with consultants to put it in the book. so i know that we hear a lot of other stuff that could be added to it, but i think, you know, we need to think about how to add that other stuff. we keep coming up with stuff. and i think the book -- we spent

time, we published a book, it's on our website, we gave a presentation, and i would like to carry that out. so i urge you guys to really think about it. >> commissioner vietor: i think it's a terrific idea. it's a good start. my only request would be -- i think i read that the unified school district will be creating the curriculum. i would like to put into it that we are able to look at it and i would like to be a part of that. it's somewhat my background. >> sure. >> commissioner vietor: so that would be the only thing that i would like to -- >> absolutely. they will create it, but we'll work hand in hand with them, so i'm sure we can provide the opportunities for review and touch points in that implementation process.

>> commissioner vietor: good. >> so to ask the question, if we are going to work with the school district, they're creating a curriculum and it's the basic curriculum. teachers have liberty to make adjustments, correct? >> right. it's the building blocks that teachers take and adapt into the classroom. >> and the question i would -- or maybe direct staff, at what point do we have flexibility to add in more up-to-date topics? not only commissioner courtney may have an issue, but given this administration, we may want to highlight another component which is a lower level. i want to see what type of flexibility we have, because this is sort of the building block, but there may be an opportunity to take a