>> supervisor tang: on page 43, though, we are changing removal of residential units. instead of 20 days, will be 30 days, so that's different than what was originally proposed. and then, also on page 48, starting line 20, d.r. is discretionary reviews, will be 30 days instead of ten days. so that is a change that is different, again, from what we were discussing. maybe we could go to kate stacey. >> president breed, that is true. i'm sorry. on the bottom of page 48, that

is a change from current code requirements from what i think is ten days to 30-days. i need to look at the code to verify those dates, and i'll check the other dates that supervisor tang just mentioned. >> so supervisor tang, was that it? >> supervisor tang: i mean, there's more. i mentioned earlier that there are a lot of planning submittal guidelines that have newly been codified, and the rear

neighbors, and i think that's from when we've talked, the intent is to force the conversation, to have it with your neighbors, and that is a really important part. you would never want this to happen in such a way that

neighbors would not be notified or not have access to a full set of plans. i think a mandatory preapplication hearing forces that conversation, forces a full set of plans, and i think that one of the issues that i have is we're trying to truly just free up some staff time so that we can put some of this important housing development on the agenda and move it forward. that's the only issue that i had, and that's why i think this warrants a little bit more conversation. so -- but i'm happy to hear from the sponsoring supervisor. >> president breed: supervisor peskin? >> supervisor peskin: as i tried to say at the beginning, rear yard pop outs aren't about solving san francisco's housing problems. the reality is this -- our housing department is fee driven, for better or worse. this whole notion that it frees up staff time is rather

questionable, if not dubious. they're not being paid with ad valorem tax revenue, they're being paid. so the notion that you stop fees in one place and somehow this is going to miraculously free up staff time, this doesn't make sense. if you've got this other project, this project has fees, whether it's lennar at the shipyard or this whole conditional use. the reason i think at a high level the desire to stream line 100 % affordable housing makes sense, but the notion that we're wiping out community involvement over the things that drive neighbors and neighborhoods crazy and reduce trust in the planning department has nothing to do with the provision of

affordable housing, which is why -- i mean, look, 80% of this ordinance is good, and i support it. and by the way is consistent with a legacy of policy in this chambers. all of the steps that supervisor kim took, that supervisor wiener agreed with to stream line 100% conditional use authorization, that makes sense, but disen fran friesing people from the planning process where the process often gets better where people resolve neighborhood disputes has nothing to do with addressing the housing crisis, it's about shutting people out of community input. >> president breed: supervisor stefani? >> supervisor stefani: thank you, president breed. i just want to add i think this is a really important piece of legislation and of course as evidenced by my inbox right now, and what supervisor peskin just said, at sunday evening, i

was at the home of one of my constituents for two hours talking about this, and telling them i would involve them in this process. as i said it's important for me to have that dialogue with my neighbors. so i feel like if i were to read all of these and understand them, i'm not going to have the opportunity to go back to the people that i've been working with, and i feel like it would be disingenuous for me to vote on it right now. i feel like i'm being asked to vote on something to make sure neighborhoods have notice, yet i'm not noticing them about the amendments. although i think there's things that i agree with, but i'm just not going to have that opportunity to finalize those conversations with everybody that i've been speaking to on these amendments, so i would be supportive of a continuance on this. >> president breed: thank you, supervisor stefani, and seeing no other names on the roster, we have 2:30 commendations to

do, and we will come back to this item and make decisions whether or not we will continue the item with or without the amendments. and with that, i'd like to recognize supervisor cohen for our first commendation today. >> supervisor cohen: thank you very much. i'm glad we are able to take a moment and -- take a moment from the deliberations of this important legislation to really stop and thank an incredible neighborhood leader. i want to introduce to some of you a woman by the name of marie harrison. please give her a round of applause as she comes down. [applause] >> supervisor cohen: please come to the mic. marie harrison has just been a stalwart in the bayview community. she has been an environmental

activist for as long as i've known her, and she'll tell you how long she's been doing this. the reason i wanted to take a moment to recognize her leadership because this is my last year on the board of supervisors, and it's an opportunity also to be very honest. she and i haven't seen eye to eye on every single thing. >> this is true. >> supervisor cohen: this is true, but the mark of a good woman, two good women is being able to put our differences aside and being able to recognize when the community's in crisis and roll up our sleeves and work together. and i just wanted to recognize you publicly for your tremendous dedication to the bayview community. in honor of your leadership, advocacy and lifelong dedication to the environmental and health issues in the bayview-hunters point community, and in recognition of your commitment to improving the health of community members for over two decades -- she's been doing this well before i even stepped on the scene, and i want to recognize that, and i

pay my respects to you. and so this is a certificate of honor signed by all of my colleagues here on the board of supervisors just as a small token of our appreciation and our affection as well as mutual respect for your work. thank you very much for your service. [applause] >> thank you. you can tell that they love me. supervisor cohen, this is your last year, and we've been able

to set aside our differences. that's a remarkable thing. it shows that there's growth, and it shows that there's shared honesty in our work. and i'd like to say to you personally, i thank you, and i think i'm about old enough to be your mother, so that's ong. i appreciate that. to all of the other supervisors, let me tell you thank you. i appreciate you, but i would be remiss if i did not ask you to continue to get continue supporting the community's efforts in getting the shipyard cleaned completely, i.e., a full retesting of the shipyard. i don't want to see another family out there and be worried to death if they're safe or not, and you know it's not safe yet, so let's do that. two -- and i've got about four here. but let me skip to the ones -- because i know you guys have the letter, and i don't want to hold you guys up because at the

end, i have one little thing else i need to say. i believe, and i hope that you believe that the retesting has to happen. it's a must, and not just a scanning, but a retesting. you guys are endowed with the ability to make sure our communities are safe. that's all i'm asking. it has nothing to do with you being new and and to the community or us being displaced. we're going to fight displacement any way, but i'd like to see you guys stay on our side with this. do the right thing. say no to corporate interest, and remembering the communities that you actually work for.

and join the community in their efforts to have oversight on this. because trust me, your communities and mine are going to be the ones to make sure that every stone is unturned and to make sure that site is clean, whether it's us or anyone else. i don't have a desire to see another child be made ill from ten years from now. i really don't. and understand that it's taking about that much time for every new member of our community to start showing the effect that my community has been showing the effects for decades. lastly, to our new mayor, congratulations. [applause] >> i need you to do one thing for me. we asked for an invitation to speak with you. please honor that invitation and let us speak with you. and by the way, show them what you can do. thank you. >> supervisor cohen: ladies

and gentlemen, if you're here to support marie harrison, please standup. if you're here to support marie harrison, please standup. show her your love. [applause] >> president breed: don't leave just yet, miss harrison. there will be a photo with you and supervisor cohen.

>> supervisor cohen: yes. >> president breed: thank you clean for your efforts, and we will get that shipyard cleaned up. [applause] >> president breed: all right. next up for our special commendation, will be given by supervisor kim. >> supervisor kim: thank you, madam president, and i'd like to take a moment to bring up chief rosemary bosque to the podium. [applause] bosq jane jap and i also want to thank tom hui and many members

of the d.b.i. family who are here to honor rosemary. for those of you that don't know, rosemary is finally retiring, much to the chagrin to many of us in this room who don't want her to. i just want to thank her for hermanny years of service. she is the longest running chief at the department of building inspections housing inspections department and she has help branch the gap between tenants and landlords by running the program over seen by the organization, and working collectively to remedy substandard housing conditions. over her 32 years she has over seen thousands of cases, and let's just highlight a few examples of her accomplishments and victories, including cases taken to court. in my district, 308 turk street, which had over 200

housing code violations, 38 notices of violations, and 19 director's hearings, i still remember vividly the testimonial of an immigrant parent with a baby who recounted the level of mold her small child was exposed to. the other violations they faced were lack of heating, lack of security, and rodent inflation. we were eventually able to work with 308 turk which became part of our small site acquisition program and is now under the ownership of the san francisco land trust where the tenants now coown cooperatively this now permanently affordable housing with the san francisco land trust. 245 leavenworth was another one with 400 code violations, including vermin, bed bugs and garbage piles. in 2001 she worked with her city to take on aimco, at the time the nation's largest owner

of subsidized housing, whose owner had over 600 violations and who refused to abate. she secured a five year injunction on a notorious landlord with 467 housing violations which included caved in ceilings and raw sewage spills. you also have worked closely with the board actively promoting different lemgs lations and task force and you have been incredibly resourceful for helping us craft useful legislation. before this legislation, we had lost 1600 units of s.r.o. housing to fires in 15 years. the number is significantly less now, and i can't tell you what a difference that has probably made in the district that i represent alone that we cannot count. i also want to thank you working us so close over a year

on the bed bug legislation. working closely last year with supervisor peskin to safeguard against s.r.o.'s, helping to prevent the conversion of affordable housing into hotels, working with supervisor david campos to require landlords of fire damages buildings to create action plans for displaced tenants because we're finding many tenants have been displaced from their homes because of a fire with no plan to return, and often no communication with the tenants when those units were reestablished. when chief bosque isn't working to keep bed bugs out of her home or prevent the next four alarm fire, she can be found with her dan, an engineer at u.c. river, her daughter gracie a production assistant at mbtv, and she's known for her love of horses and she actually has a horse in oregon which i did not know until today. i just have to say coming to

represent our city, i think one of the highlights is meeting so many dedicated, smart, and passionate city public servants that defy the stereo type of the government bureaucrat that doesn't care that's just checking in for their paycheck. you're not only someone that works incredibly hard, you're passionate, you're proactive. i just want to thank you for proactively always reaching out to all of our offices to demand and expect better ordinances and legislation that can help us in our work to really protect the people that need it the most, our residents. we want to make sure that all of our residents live in safe and habitable housing. housing alone is not enough, and without the work of your leadership, and the entire department at d.b.i. and our team -- your team, we would not be able to do the incredible work that i'm so proud the city and county of san francisco

does. so thank you for your 32 years of work. you can stay longer. you can if you change your mind, but i do want to give my colleagues an opportunity to say a few words as well. >> president breed: supervisor ronen? >> supervisor ronen: thank you so much. rosemary, when carolyn told me you were retiring, the first thing i said was we have her cell phone, right? because i cannot imagine the city without you. i just want to echo everything that supervisor kim said. you without a doubt are an example of a true public servant who loves and cares about your job and realizes the power you have to make such a difference at -- at -- throughout our city and especially for low-income tenants. i -- we're going to be introducing in a couple weeks, i think, perhaps your last brain child piece of

legislation to further protect residents from fire safety violations, and i'm so glad that we will be introducing that piece of legislation in your honor, but i just want to thank you so much from my time working for david campos as a legislative aide to my time as a supervisor. you're one of those gems in city departments that makes our job so much easier and inspires us to think creatively and outside of the box on solutions to some of the hardest, hardest problems. you're just an incredible human being. i cannot thank you enough for everything you've done for our city and for the residents of this city, and i hope you're going to get time to enjoy life for yourself. but i hope you don't mind if we call you every once in a while just to pick your brain on the hardest issues because you're one of our favorite brains to pick. congratulations. >> president breed: thank you. supervisor peskin? >> supervisor peskin: can you, madam president. rosemary, i just wanted to lend

my office's gratitude for your service. as supervisor kim mentioned, you were more than instrumental in our work to ultimately unanimously pass historic first in a century reforms to our s.r.o. teleconversion ordinance, and your attention to the most minute attention to policy detail, and your on the ground and your staff ease on the ground real life experience for authoring legislation. her leadership and expertise will be sorely missed, and i just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for all your service. >> president breed: thank you, supervisor peskin. supervisor cohen? >> thank you. i just wanted to add my voice to this choer -- chorus.

you definitely have a finer depth of knowledge when it comes to the finer details of policy. i want to congratulate you as you transition from one stage of life to the next, and i'm happy for you. thank you. >> president breed: thank you, supervisor cohen. supervisor safai? >> supervisor safai: thank you. i just wanted to add my voice to thank you and honoring you here today. i wanted to bring up a special situation that we were involved in together that your staff and you in particular were supremely important to, and that was the individuals that we found living underground in dungeon like conditions, and you and your staff moved tremendously fast, and we all had conversations, and you particularly your leadership saw it through to the end, saw that we got them out safely and in transitional housing and now

in supportive housing. so we really appreciate what you did, and that's just one small example of what you've dedicated your career to, so you are one of the examples of a fine public servant, so thank you for all that you do. >> thank you. [applause] >> supervisor ronen: so before we take up our obligotory photo, director bosque, we want to invite you up to say a few words. >> thank you, supervisor ronen. it's very hard to sit up here and hear all that, but thank you. i am very humbled by your kind thoughts. as you know, i'm not standing up here by myself. there are a lot of people standing behind me, and i would ask my community partners that are in my office to standup, if

those individuals could stand so we could have you represented because about 30 years ago, the entity that predated the department of building inspection had a certain regulatory or bunker mentality that all notices had a 30, 60, or 90 day notice. then it went through two administrative hearings, and that was considered the measure of success, regardless of whether we got compliance or affected the safety of the occupants or improved their quality of life. we've come a long way with board support, with director hui, with our community partners. we know that regulation as a singular approach does not work. writing a notice of violation

does not necessarily equate to housing preservation and maintaining the quality of life for people that occupy our residences or residential hotels and our apartment buildings. how many times have we seen that the common area of a building can look preistine, bt the individual units, the dwelling units can look entirely differently. so i am honored, and thank you for allowing my input and my collaboration, and that is the keyword. that is the other part of this process, the collaboration with my colleagues and our community partners. and with that, i will tell you i am very much optimistic as we move forward, as far as that is concerned. i have to say as i've been cleaning out my office and going through all the different paper, i was reminiscent of some of the long time things that supervisor kim and i had worked on. i would be -- i have to also

tell you that i finally -- it took me retirement to get my husband and my daughter in this room, so i want to thank them for their patience and acknowledge some very special people. the housing division does not run out the administrative support. bernadette perez? bernadette, as i leave, the division will be in very good hands. also, i want to, again, thank director hui and deputy director dan lowry. we now have, thanks to all of your insight, we have legislation in residential hotels where we have postings. in apartment buildings, people are now empowered to understand whether they're protected or not as far as fire is concerned.

we have many things that we didn't have before. now we're truly measuring success as far as the quality of life, so with that, i want to read one thing for you, and that is one of the major goals of the department of building inspection, as far as its strategic plan. it says, provide inspections to enforce codes and standards to protect occupants' rights ensuring safety and quality life. i mentioned to bill strum that wow, that's provocative language. he said you wrote it. it's something we would have never thought of 30 years ago. ladies and gentlemen, it's been a privilege. thank you.

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. >> congratulations again, miss vasquez, and thank you so much for your service to the city and county of san francisco. [applause] >> president breed: okay. we actually have one more special commendation, and we wanted everyone to know that today, we are celebrating a very special day. in fact, it is the birthday of the clerk of the board of supervisors, angela calvillo. [applause] breed breed we not only want to wito -- >> president breed: we not only want to wish her a happy

birthday, but acknowledge her hard her that she and her team does to keep our meetings runs of the board of supervisors, and a testament to miss calvillo's hard work, instead of taking the day off, she is here at the board of supervisors working, so thank you, and we just want to wish you a happy birthday. supervisor peskin? >> supervisor peskin: so madam secretary, on behalf of the board of supervisors, here's some sunflowers. you continue to not only know the details of protocol but conduct yourself with grace and aplomb. i have to say in my position as board president, the best hire i ever made. [applause] >> president breed: thank you. and with that, colleagues, we will go back to our agenda, and

i do want to come back to the item that we left off from, item number 26, and wondering what we'd like to do. supervisor tang? >> supervisor tang: can i just ask to delay this to later in the meeting so i can speak with supervisor peskin? >> president breed: okay. so we will delay it until later in the meeting. let's go to item number 27. >> clerk: item 27 is a resolution that pertains to community and neighborhood outreach advertising and to designate the following community neighbor -- newspapers as the papers we will advertise in to provide outreach advertising for fiscal 2018 through 2019 to the small business exchange for the african american community, to el reportero for the hispanic community, to the bay area reporter for the lesbian guy

bisexual community, for the potrero view for the potrero hill, bayview, mission bay, and soma neighborhoods. >> president breed: thank you. and colleagues, i'm very concerned about this particular item. i know that this is about small business outreach, and we've come up against this situation in the past. we know that for neighborhood newspapers to survive, sometimes it is a challenge, and we also know that sometimes our bureaucratic process can be problematic for submittals from these small institutions. and i will say that in reviewing this item, i was very disappointed that the bayview was not listed. i know the sun reporter has made it clear that the reason why they don't continue to bid is because it's very complicated and time-consuming to facilitate this process as

an awardee, and i am also surprised that world journal is not include index th-- include in this list. and i think that's a problem. the whole thing is to make sure we are providing opportunities for newspapers, community newspapers to notice to the communities that they repair that they serve, an opportunity to know what is happening in the city and county of san francisco. we are in the process of talking about notification in item 26 and the need to make sure that neighbors are notified properly for the purposes of providing community feedback on these particular projects. and so i am not satisfied that the work was done to ensure that those smaller newspapers who should be included in this process are included. and even though i do know that there might have been a late

submittal here and there, the whole point is to make it easier for these particular newspapers to have a seat at the table so that the outreach is done properly. and so i'm very concerned, and i would like to ask that we continue this item for the next two weeks, to the meeting of july 10 so that we can get clarity on that particular matter and there can be sufficient outreach in these particular newspapers to include them in this particular contract. and seeing no other -- i will make that motion. supervisor peskin? >> supervisor peskin: i just had a question for either staff or the relevant committee just as to -- i guess that would have been budget and finance committee just as to what the presentation was and why sing tao, world journal, sun reporter are not there.

>> president breed: and the bayview. >> supervisor peskin: and the bayview. >> president breed: and the bayview, the reporter i reached out to, she is a small business owner with basically 1.5 employees, and the time that it takes to not only go through the process to provide a submission but also what the city requires to do business makes it very difficult for her to compete in this particular contract, and so she says that it's -- it's more of a burden than it's worth. and so that was the feedback that i got specifically from the sun reporter as to why they did not make a submission. but i do know that sing tao submitted, and i think the -- and i think that world journal submitted, as well. so again, i think that there's a problem here that we need to address. supervisor fewer? >> supervisor fewer: yes. i also mentioned this at the budget committee meeting, is that i noticed, also, that the

richmond review wasn't there, and that the marina times was, and that i questioned that, and they said they had not submitted a proposal. so i -- i would thank you for actually asking about the process and whether or not that process is as inclusive as it could be. >> president breed: thank you. and i think we have someone from the city administrator's office who'd like to explain what occurred. >> yes. and good afternoon, supervisors. i'm alex degrassi, and i work in the office of contract administration, and all the firms that are mentioned today, we did do the outreach to those firms. however, for the firms that you did mention, we did not receive a proposal in. we did receive a proposal from sing tao. it was late, though, so from a technical standpoint, we didn't

have the option to recommend an award to sing tao. the one issue or the one problem i'm assuming, though, that's causing some difficulty for some of the papers that were mentioned, and this is all driven and specifically in the code in -- and the newspapers have to be printed here in the city of san francisco. and as you know, as you've been talking earlier about the cost of housing, that's the same thing that impacts the cost of businesses here in san francisco. so the cost of owning a print shop and doing business here in san francisco could be the problem. i have not polled all those companies that were mentioned, but if you'd like, that is something that our confidence can do. but i can tell you that in the way that the code is written, you are required to have the printing done here in the city and county of san francisco and

that's been one of the factors that we have seen that has impacted some of the firms which also includes sing tao. >> president breed: and i thought that we had a discussion about this a few years ago, and i don't recall exactly what the follow up was, but i know that there were members of this board who had expressed a desire to make sure that those papers that actually serve communities in san francisco, especially the small -- smaller businesses, have a real opportunity to compete for the purpose of making sure we're distributing information with all of these outlets. and we didn't want these particular newspapers that are community serving to be left out. i don't recall the follow through that took place in that conversation, but i'm just wondering if this is delayed

two additional weeks, if that would be problematic. >> i don't believe it would be a problematic issue. i don't know that we'd be able to necessarily solve the problem as far as the way the code is written, but i know in the past the board has exercised some level of discretion as far as allowing some firms through, and as our office, it can certainly work with the board on the particular firms that they do have in mind. >> president breed: so you don't believe that -- what were the things that were done in the past to address this issue? because i do recall the bayview actually being on this list, so i'm not certain what could have happened in that case. >> and the thing -- what i'm referring to, madam president, is i don't understand in the past -- i believe in the past that the board has exercised some discretion to allow certain firms to be awards contracts. as written, as our office

doesn't have the discretion to override that, but i think that this -- at the board level, they have exercised the discretion to allow certain firms to be awards contracts. >> president breed: okay. thank you. supervisor peskin? >> supervisor peskin: thank you. that's just what i was going to say. in the past, the o.c.a. -- let me take a step back. this was a goofy ballot initiative that one newspaper put on several decades ago. that newspaper does not exist anymore. it was meant for that newspaper to get all of the official advertising, but the way it is written, the office of contract administration can't recommend things, but the board can do what it wants. and in the past, i remember this very clearly, we would look at their recommendations, and then, we would add the sing tao, and the world journal, and the bayview. and i don't actually remember adding the sun reporter because my recollection is they didn't even apply, but we can -- we

have the discretion to do that whether it's today or two weeks from now, and we should just do that. >> president breed: thank you, supervisor peskin, and i would say that we should do a two-week continuance and connect with those particular newspaper outlets and then make the amendments at the meeting of july 10. supervisor cohen? >> supervisor cohen: you know, this is an issue, like supervisor peskin said, that comes up annually, and we do handle it. i don't think we need to wait two weeks. i think it can be addressed today. we dealt with it in budget committee. i reached out to the sun reporter. she expressed she has no interest. the bayview has had an opportunity in years past and is going through a little transition right now. the way we can easily solve this problem is to bring a charter amendment to voters and make a slight change. that's it, a simple charter amendment to voters. so if anyone's not doing

anything, maybe some colleagues would be interested to bring a simple charter amendment to the voters to change all this. but in all seriousness, we can address this today and not even worry about it in two weeks. >> president breed: so supervisor cohen, are you suggesting -- are you saying that you've been in contact with the bayview and they're not interested? cone cone no, i cannot say that. i will say they've been involved in the process. if you'd like, we can delay this matter and i can reach out to them and deal with this matter before the close of business today. i don't believe we need to prolong it two weeks, it's just a simple call. >> president breed: okay. i would like to move this item to later in the agenda. >> supervisor cohen: okay. >> president breed: connect with the newspapers that were mentioned, and if there's interest, i'd like my colleagues to support an amendment to include them in

this contract. supervisor kim? >> supervisor kim: i was just confirming that the sing tao and the world journal did actually apply. >> yes. >> supervisor kim: but they don't have printing that actually take place in san francisco. okay. i'm just going to say that being that those two newspapers do have an interest in participating but were not selected because of this requirement that o.c. -- >> o.c.a. >> supervisor kim: o.c.a. -- sorry. we have o.c.i.i. coming before us later. o.c.a. could not make a recommendation for those two, i will be making a motion to include those two publications. >> president breed: okay. supervisor kim has made a motion to include those two publications, and seconded by supervisor tang. can we take that without objection? without objection. supervisor cohen? >> supervisor cohen: i just wanted to ask, did bayview

apply? >> no ma'am. >> president breed: but even they did not apply, that does not prohibit us from including them in this. >> supervisor cohen: correct. >> i don't believe so, no. >> president breed: and also they've applied in the past but they're dealing with capacity issues from my understanding. >> i'm not aware if they did or not in the past. >> president breed: okay. supervisor cohen? >> supervisor cohen: yes, i'll make a motion to include the bayview. >> president breed: all right. supervisor cohen has made a motion, seconded by supervisor yee, can we take that without objection? on that amendment, can we take that, same house, same call. the amendment passes without objection. [ gavel ]. >> president breed: please read item 28. [agenda item read] >> president breed: supervisor tang? >> supervisor tang: thank you

very much. i wanted to see if there might be a willingness to try to amend this item so that we could at least include advertisement in the chronicle for half the year like we did in the past. i know when we talked about streamlining, neighborhood notification, people wanting to understand information fully. i do know that the chronicle has a yearly readership that is about double than the examiner, and wanted to see if we could include the chronicle as part of this. >> president breed: and thank you, supervisor. supervisors, i completely support that. we have a number of newspapers that exist in san francisco, and regardless of how we may or may not like a particular newspaper outlet, i do think that we do this city a disservice by not including notifications in all newspapers when the opportunity presents itself, so with that motion

that you're proposing, supervisor tang, i'm happy to second it. supervisor peskin? >> supervisor peskin: can you, madam president, respectfully, through the chair, to supervisor tang. let me just set forth my arguments as to why i don't think that's a good idea, and they really don't have to do with the media content of either publication. one thing i think is important is that one paper's free. the other one costs $2. the other thing is in the old days, when we did split it, six months and six months, it's for people who don't use the internet who go out and read the official publications. you don't know which paper you're supposed to be reading which half of the year, so i think consistency is very important. and then, finally, san francisco is what i call a 1.5 newspaper town, and if we want to maintain -- if we want to have another newspaper of record, keeping the examiner,

which, you know, lives on a shoestring budget, i think is good for content and diversity, and i will respectful leo pose that motion. >> president breed: supervisor peskin, just for clarity, the examiner's not printing every day. how often are they printing? they don't have actual physical papers except for reduced amount of time. >> three days a week. >> president breed: three days a week? thank you. supervisor ronen? >> supervisor ronen: yeah, i wanted to agree with supervisor peskin and underscore his last point, which is that over the years, we have lost so many print newspapers in this city, and every time we lose another paper, i think that's a detriment to all of us, that having different sources, different points of view, a robust media, especially at this time when there is such an attack from the federal government on media, is incredible important.

and we have an ability -- is incredibly important. and we have an ability here as a city to help keep a paper afloat that provides that diverse voice. and so i do not agree with the amendment as put forth by supervisor tang. >> president breed: so in the process of helping to keep a paper afloat that is not printed every day, we're denying the opportunity to provide another source for people to be exposed to the information. that's what i'm most concerned about, so if there is, for example, a recommendation that could help support that without taking away the ability to use a paper like the chronicle as a way to communicate to the public. i want to see us do something else for the purposes of keeping this paper afloat,

which i think is necessary, but maybe there's an opportunity to look at a different percentage or maybe looking at making amendments to the contract. however, i still think it's important to use the chronicle as a vehicle to communicate what we need to to the public. supervisor ronen. >> supervisor ronen: yes. through the chair, i was wondering if i could ask, o.c.a., given that the examiner is printed three days a week, when do these advertisements go out? >> the advertisements go out -- typically, you have to give notice the evening before. as our office is working with the clerk of the board's office, an approach that o.c.a. was going to recommend to the board was to have as a primary and as a secondary provider, so in this case, the primary provider would be the examiner, and they were the highest ranking firm, they were the

highest ranking firm and responsive firm. to be clear, however, on the off days, where we didn't have a service day on a monday or tuesday, and we needed to get something out that day, we would put it in the chronicle. so we would not be taking away anything from the examiner, and they would be the primary contract holder over the course of this contract, if they did start to change and print every day again, all that work would go to them. so the work that would be going to the chronicle would only be on the days that the examiner is not in print. >> supervisor ronen: and we are publishing every day advertisements? >> as of now, no, because we only have the work with the examiner. but with these contracts, we would be able to advertise every day. >> supervisor ronen: and sorry. maybe this question, then, through the chair to the clerk of the board, perhaps, it --

would the best case scenario be that we have access to a print newspaper every single day to print notices because it's all committee hearings. >> clerk: yes, through the president, absolutely. we are in agreement with the -- with what they're recommending. >> supervisor ronen: okay. and also, through the president, supervisor tang, was that your amendment? >> supervisor tang: through the chair to supervisor ronen, my original amendment was what i had seen us doing previously at this board, so splitting, a half year. >> supervisor ronen: would you be open to a friendly amendment adopting o.c.a.'s recommendation? >> supervisor tang: i guess so. if that's the recommendation, i think that's the way -- >> president breed: supervisor ronen? >> supervisor ronen: so to restate it, unless -- do you want me to make the motion? >> president breed: well, first of all, supervisor tang,

do you want to withdraw your motion? >> supervisor tang: i'll withdraw my motion. >> president breed: and i'll withdraw my second. supervisor ronen? >> supervisor ronen: yes. i would make a motion to make the san francisco examiner the primary newspaper announcements of meetings for official announcements with the chronicle as the secondary, and the impact of that, just to explain a little bit more, would be given that the examiner is only printing three days a week at this time, that on those three days, that will be the primary newspaper. if the examiner in the future goes back to a five-day print cycle, then they would take over five days a week, but in the meantime, the chronicle would be the back up paper. >> president breed: okay. mr. givner, is that okay or do we need the language or is that sufficient? >> mr. givner: that's sufficient. we can amend the resolution. >> president breed: so supervisor ronen has made a motion, seconded by supervisor

yee. supervisor kim? >> supervisor kim: can i just understand exactly what that's going to mean? >> that's going to mean working with the clerk of the board's office on days when they of notice -- say, for example, they know that they need to get a notice at the newspaper on a monday. on those days, we work as a clearinghouse, and in that clearinghouse, we will directly advertise it in the chronicle. however if we know the advertisement is going to be falling on a wednesday or thursday or a sunday, then, they will direct that work to the examiner. >> supervisor kim: so the examiner only prints on wednesday, thursday, and sunday? >> yes. >> clerk: that's correct. wednesday, thursday, and sunday through the press. >> president breed: and if that increases, then, basically, that the -- the use of the examiner will be what we would consider, so if it goes from three days to four days, then, we would use them for the four days instead of the three

days, based on what you heard from the amendment and what was cleared through our attorney general. supervisor kim -- i mean, attorney general? i'm sorry. it's been a long day. >> supervisor tang: i am'm ha to promote mr. givner. so what is it that we do with the reduced printing of the examiner? >> and it's my understanding that we only have the option of in printing notices in the examiner, so if there were something to come up, is it not as a city print in the chronicle, so we have to have a notice printing around those days in the examiner. >> supervisor tang: so currently, the clerk's office works to consolidate our notices on the days that the examiner prints? >> yes. >> supervisor tang: i would prefer to stay with one paper. that's just my opinion.

i won't be supporting this amendment. if we think it's confusing to bifurcate six months and six months, it's going to be more confusing to bifurcate by days, so i think we should work to consolidate our notices on the days they publish, so i will not be supporting this amendment. >> president breed: and miss calvil calvillo wants to provide some clarity. >> clerk: through the president, it has expanded their noticing by two weeks, so they are concerned, they need to publish five consecutive days at least. currently with the examiner just reducing down to three days, it has, like i said, expanding their noticing period for items to be before the commission. >> supervisor tang: i just -- i don't see an issue with us having to notify earlier than the five or ten-day requirement. and i honestly, i find it aggravating when we miss

notifications because they're so close to the commission date. it just means that there wasn't good preparation, that we're bringing in items last minute. i just think that's not the best way to do business, and we should know in advance what we're notifying for. >> well, we do sometimes know in advance, but what happens when the board calls a special meeting or any other commissions call a special meeting or there's a special committee meeting that any of the chairs decide to hold? i mean, so i just -- from my perspective, i just think it's more responsible for us to have at least a back up, an alternative, if necessary, to use for that purpose, so i think that's what this is about more so. and i understand that it might seem confusing, but the fact it, i think it's important that we have as many notification outlets with all of our newspapers as possible for full transparency to the public. supervisor kim? >> supervisor kim: yeah, no, i understand that. i just think that the intent of

this law is for some type of consistency so that people know where to get notifications. if it's in two different newspapers, i don't think we're truly following the intent or the spirit of the law. what we're basically saying is we're writing off our obligations, saying it's printed somewhere, just go and find it. that, to me is not the spirit of the law. it means we're following the law and doing some type of notification. i would prefer -- i haven't heard complaints about it thus far. this is how we've been doing it since the examiner has reduced its publication date. this is the first i've heard it was an issue. if it was such an issue, i think i would have been hearing about it prior to today's meeting. i won't be supporting today's amendment. >> president breed: just in the past, we've supported both newspapers, which is why it hasn't been a problem. >> supervisor tang: in the past two years -- [please stand by]

i think we need to resolve it. i think there's going to be emergency hearings and that we need to notify the public and there's no way to anticipate sometimes. my suggestion is that we can -- the clerk and other people that's going to be sending out notifications continue to send out ahead of time as much as possible so most of the notifications can be done. but for those speci