come out with different size cart, tents, sometimes i don't come out at all. >> when was that photo? >> this was the weekend of christmas, like, a saturday night at christmas. you bet. yes? >> i have a question, as well. so since you've been there 44 years, there used to be forests that were on the corners, and i know that they -- they didn't voluntarily leave. do you remember why -- i ask can ask the department that after. >> there were two florists. >> there was one in front of i.magnin, and one in front of neiman marcus. >> the one in front of neiman marcus, they died and they went out of business. but the other one, i don't know if they just picked them up and

put them on geary. >> the last thing was for reference, do you remember the old vietnam vet that used to sell nickels for a nickel and he used to be on that cart? >> oh, yeah. >> thank you. you don't look old enough to remember that. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks for your time. we'll now hear from the permit holder. you have six minutes. >> so the appellants brought up congestion. there is a large amount of foot traffic in union square. it's important to point out when the ordinance was amended in 2014, it did not prohibit m.f.f.'s from operating in areas with large amounts of foot traffic. it provides guidance on where they believe m.f.f.'s should expand. the typical -- but it allows reviews on a case by case b. the typical traffic flows and

existing food frask demonstrates -- traffic demonstrates that our presence would not have a negative impact on congestion. on the east side of the block, you have a flower stand whose operation takes up an 8 foot by 20 foot space and is open every day 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. outside of macy's, you have appellant's hot dog cart who has 10 foot of sidewalk clearance and is open daily. our location is on the west side of the block, and our

operation exists within the confines of a legal parking space, occupying no portion of the sidewalk where the sidewalk in front is 15 feet, not 10 feet. we are a grab and go operation where our offerings are made in advance and ready to be served upon ordering. all the pictures of the appellant's exhibits feature full fledged food trucks that require people to order, wait five to 15 minutes for their order to be prepared, and then receive their order. even in the event that a substantial number of people wanted ice cream, the pace of the people being served would move expeditiously. they've brought up blocking retail storefronts. it is unreasonable to claim our presence would cause harm to retail storefronts. our parking space is designated for six wheel commercial vehicles five days a week. due to a scale of the local comparison to illustrate the difference of vehicle size.

here on the bottom, you've got our vehicle. above that, it's drawn to scale. above that, you've got a standard food truck, and then, beyond that, you have a six-wheel commercial vehicle. the 70 foot distance restriction that the appellant raised, that restriction raised by the appellants only applies to brick and mortar restaurants. it does not apply to other m.f.f.'s. they raised possibly changing the use of the permit. we were very specific in our permit application what the intended use of this permit was. the m.f.f. ordinance gives the d.p.w. director the right to revoke or suspend a permit in cases of fraud, misrepresentation or false claim in a permit application, and that's located in section

4(c) 2(a) 1. furthermore, the director has the authority to revoke a permit where the permit's operation negatively impacted public health, safety, convenience, or welfare. in section 4(c) 2(a) 4. they also touched on a permit being transferrable. the transfer of a permit requires the explicit consent of the director of public works. in conclusion it is clear that the appellants are frustrated with the m.f.f. legislation. however we should be be penalized for their frustration or the acts committed by others. we complied with what was put before us by the city, and we reasonably relied on following the legislation that has been on the books now for five years. there's been no abuse, error or fraud in the issuance of this permit. therefore, we respectfully ask that you do not overturn it.

it would be an honor and a privilege to participate in the union square business community. we ask that we be evaluated on who we are and the specific proposal we have put forward, not on wild speculation, inaccurate information, and nonsensical hypotheticals. thank you. and i believe my brother would like to say a few words, so i'll let him speak. >> you know, my brother and i put everything we have into building a business that's not only dedicated to the city and community, but one that's dedicated to doing things the right way. dotting all i's, crossing all 2 t, so it's very important to demonstrate out comes when things are done properly and rules are followed. as you've heard from the public, which i'd like to thank for their dedication, and passion. there are so many reasons why this is important. this is an opportunity for the

city to demonstrate that it actually cares about its local citizens and constituents, that it values supporting a disappearing class of business, and that it's vital to not only the identity of the city br the community as well. we ask that the committee respect the decision already made and not bend at the interest of a select few. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> yeah, we all have questions, i think. >> we'll start with you. >> can i see that photo you put up the first time of the bus. >> which -- >> the pink -- hot pink. >> which -- the original bus? >> no, the one that you're planning on. >> using this one? that bus? >> right. so i guess i'm a little confused. so how many people do you expect to serve? 'cause i look at this -- this

size, and it doesn't look like it can hold very much. >> so -- right, so what we did was we limited our offerings. we'll only be offering six flavors, and there'll be a freezer that stretches across the side of it, within the width of the van, so it should be probably able to handle a day's sales. >> a full day's sales. >> right. >> okay. and then, there was a comment that you guys weren't interested in any negotiations or discussions to think about other locations. can you tell me a little bit about that. >> well, that's not entirely accurate. >> okay. >> we are -- you know, we set our sights on this. we had our mind on this, and we want to see it through. so this is our main focus, so that's all i can say in regards to that. there was no particular discussion about particular locations in other relocations. there was potential offerings, but what we said is, you know,

our mind has been set on this, our heart has been set on this. this is more than just about selling ice cream, and we think that this particular landmark location has special value. >> and why is that? tell me why that particular location. why is that important to you? >> well, it is a landmark. people walk by, and that is the spot, and we want to be a part of that. we want to be able to show people that san francisco is more than just chain stores. there's nothing wrong with chain stores, but there's more to san francisco than what's currently being represented there and what's being served there, so we wanted to make a difference within that particular space, within that particular area. >> okay. my question. so the concern here is that the permit is transferrable, and yes, we understand that it's up to the director. just out of curiosity, would you be willing to have a special deed of restriction saying that there is no other

substitution other than the size of that 1978 vanagon there. >> yeah. >> and so there would be no exceptions to that. you couldn't go left, right, up down, that would be the size. >> yeah. we have no plan on deviating from what we're putting forward. i would think that -- >> i think you're saying permit restriction. >> okay. permit restriction because the concern, one of is the blockage, the footprint and the real estate that that takes is relatively small in comparison to 35 feet and 16 feet up in the air, right? and so if -- but if that is -- you're willing to do that, that's a -- you know, a plus on my side. >> commissioners, that does affect transfer? >> you can condition anything. >> thank you. >> and yeah, i would like to reiterate and be clear that we have no intention of deviating from this and are completely

fine in putting things in writing, an extra provision. >> okay. we will now hear from the department. thank you. >> thank you. >> you have six minutes, mr. cohen. >> i'm not sure i have much to add. a lot of the arguments were discussed at length, so if you have any questions. >> i guess i might have one. how often have you had requested to transfer a permit? >> they come -- they come periodically. we've had -- i couldn't say how often, how frequently. >> but you do see them. >> they have -- they do come. >> and are you aware when those have happened as to whether the equipment, if you want to call it that, has changed dramatically? >> we don't necessarily -- i mean, we started to review or

look at the equipment. we'd definitely look at the footprint in terms of push carts, in terms of food trucks, as long as they meet the criteria from the health and fire department -- departments, we don't comment on the look of the truck. >> answer that question, though. do you allow the neighbors or the neighborhood to weigh in on your decision to allow a transfer or do they have no say in the matter? >> the transfers do not require notification, as far as i'm aware. >> and the neighborhood's not alerted. >> not alerted, no. if they wish to, and they wish to appeal, i think they could, but i'm not sure on that. >> so your question that i asked to the appellant that had been there 40 years, can you elaborate, does the florist require a d.p.w. permit, as

well. >> so the florist, i think they're under an ordinance or a special provision. >> so they're not through you or your department. >> i think they're defined in the public works code, but i don't think we allow any new florists. >> so is the permitting -- that's the question i have is, is there used to be florists on all sides, and i've got some definition from the hot dog vendor guy, but i would like clarification from the department as how that went. >> sorry. >> i mean, why did they leave? 'cause just from hearsay, i heard they were no longer allowed to be on those corners. and so the only one that would not allow them to be on the corner would be the department, which would be your department. that's the question i'm asking you. >> i think if -- i'm not too familiar with the flower arts or flower stands, and if it was in this -- the construction area, the central subway, i believe they'd work with m.t.a. and public works to relocate.

i'm sure that's how -- i wasn't part of that, so i can't really speak to that. >> was that a question related to this case? >> yeah, it is related to this case. >> or other interests? >> it is related to this case. and then, i have a question for the ice cream truck. >> no, i have a question for mr. cohen. >> okay. >> how do you determine congestion? >> how do we determine congestion? we -- i think it's hard to make a determination without -- >> it's traffic analysis, right? >> no, we don't do traffic analysis, no. if we were presented one, we would probably present it to m.t.a. as the traffic arm and make a determination. we're not traffic specialists. we don't review transportation in that respect. >> so the permit is not subject to congestion at all? >> well, there's words. >> well, that's what i'm trying to get at.

>> yeah. >> they're qualitative, you know? >> i believe the permit's requirements or the path of travel requirements and the serving requirements, that's captured in the requirement that the sidewalk be 10 feet for food trucks and 15 feet for push trucks. because the push cart is on the sidewalk, so you need that area. the distance from the curb for the push cart, and then, you need the path of travel space. i believe that's how they came up with those widths when they came up with the code. >> okay. >> and the shy distance that they referred to in the brief. >> that's not in the code. >> or in your quantitative analysis, right? >> no. >> okay, and again, i have a question for the permit holder. so on the vehicle that you're going to use, is that vehicle going to be stripped and be

towed into the property or is it going to be driving in in its own power. >> it's going to be driving in on its own. >> i'm going to be amazed how much ice cream you're going to be able to get there. i've been to your shop, as well. >> okay. that was my question. >> okay. commissioners, this matter is submitted. >> comments, commissioners? >> you want to go first, i've been blazing all night long, literally. >> i'm prepared to support the permit. i don't know how i feel about the restriction. >> i'm not supportive of the permit. i think there's too much congestion there and not just

at those special times that they've brought forth, but the entire area's packed. i'm talking about regular days. and the usage of this is different than some of the other streets. when you have streets that are fronted by mainly office buildings, it's come and go, it's a little more permanent for the issue of congestion. here, where you have people that are there with no time frame, and i think therefore, based upon my experience, the congestion is already quite a bit, and i personally wouldn't have wanted to see anything on that sidewalk. >> i'll start, then, you know,

continue. so as a small minority businessperson for a very, very long time, over 30 years, i'm, one, a proponent of small business. i think that san francisco in general was based on that prin principal. you look at all the companies that starts here, levi strauss, esprit, gap, and the list goes on and on. i know that neighborhood really well. i'm down there on a regular basis. that block is -- of all the blocks, that block, it's just extremely, extremely congested. so my concern would be, one, for pedestrian safety. i mean, i'd love to see a small business succeed and bring some

special spark back to -- to the district. but at the same time, it's not that i'm supportive of large business, but big business, if you folks go down to union square, which i was at today, and you see the amount of empty space and storefronts, it's scary. retail is leaving our city at an alarming, alarming rate. and yes, i'm bad. i had three orders of amazon dropped off at my house today, and i'm, you know -- it's tough. i think that retail in the city needs all the help they can get. i'm not super supportive, and the only way that i would be is if a -- a deed of restrictions or some -- some restrictions regarding keeping the footprint of the 1978 volkswagen vanagon and for it not to increase in

size in any shape or form away, and that's the -- any shape or form or way, and that's the only way i would support it. >> well, i have to take some offense to my fellow commissioner. you -- retail, like anything else must adapt. if it doesn't adapt, it dis. it's just -- the market speaks, and i don't think we should prevent small businesses from being somewhere because retail is having a difficult time. the more concern i have -- and i don't frequent that area as much as you do, is that it is congested, but i don't know that this small business should be punished for our perception of congestion when there's been no real studies, and the department has passed on it. and your idea about a restriction intrigued me enough that i would go commissioner

lazarus' way on a yes, but your way on the restriction. but president fong does have some sway on my, so i am a little concerned about the congestion. >> if there's three votes to -- or two votes to deny the appeal, then -- then -- you need three votes minimum -- >> to continue. >> -- to continue in support of the appeal. >> or to continue. >> or to continue. >> correct. >> well, i'll make a motion to grant the appeal and condition the permit on a restriction that the size of the vehicle never exceeds the proposed one. >> 1978 volkswagen vanagon.

>> okay. we have a motion from commissioner lazarus to grant the appeals and issue the permit on the condition that the vehicle under the permit be limited in size to a 1978 v.w. bus. >> can i have the basis. >> on the basis that restricting it that the permit was properly issued and the restriction will address some of the concerns about congestion. >> okay. so on the basis of the permit was properly issued and will address some concerns about congestion. so on that motion -- [roll call] >> okay. so we have -- do we need to continue this matter?

>> no. >> okay. so -- >> that being the appeal. >> motion fails. >> yeah, motion fails. >> yeah. so -- but we have the motion to grant the appeals, we have three yeses, right, so since commissioner swig is -- >> so if the -- if they want to maintain the condition, then, we have to continue this case. >> okay. >> so i would make -- you want to make a motion to continue or i'll make a motion to continue. >> okay. >> make a motion to continue that the missing commissioner -- that we can hear his vote on it. >> sorry. i'm a little confused. >> so -- okay. i just had it. [inaudible] >> the motion was to grant the

appeals and issue the permit under the condition that the the permit -- well, you would grant the appeal and issue the permit -- >> we're not debating this, okay? there's no thing we're going to take from the audience at this point. you don't understand the procedures. if you want a condition, you have to grant the appeal, okay? >> right. i think that's how i did it. >> yeah. yeah. >> you need four votes. >> so we need -- we need four votes to grant the appeal. we have three votes in support of that motion, which means we need to continue the matter. >> that's why i made a motion to continue it for the -- >> to see where the fifth commissioner stands. >> correct. so on commissioner honda's motion to continue the matter, and this would be to the next meeti meeting -- >> next meeting? >> which is july 11.

>> that's fine. [roll call] >> this is on the continuance? >> if we continue it, we will get vice president swig to vote. >> i'm still voting no. >> well, thank you for voting on the record. this matter is continued to july 11 where we will get vice president swig's vote on the motion. thank you. this concludes the hearing.

b) authorizing, pursuant to the agreement, a third amendment to the memorandum of understanding with the city and county of san francisco, acting through its department of public works to increase funding in an additional amount not to exceed $17,966,556 for an aggregate total not to exceed

$19,079,347 for the transbay folsom street improvement project that is within the scope of the transit center district plan project approved under the final environmental impact report transit center district plan and transit tower ("feir"), a program eir, and is adequately described in the feir and its addendum for purposes of the california environmental quality act transbay redevelopment project area (discussion and action) (resolution no. 28-2018) >> this item before you today is approval of extension and increase i and project with cmg and we engaged them since 2011 -- in addition public works has been engaged to do construction management oversight on the project so in addition to

approving expansion of the project and amount to cmg will include the fulton street improvement project. with that shane heart will lead the discussions and i think we have a representative from public works as well and the audience will follow. >> good afternoon chair mondejar, my name is shane hart. we are here to discuss the funding of the fulton street improvement product construction in trans bay. the agenda taos a today we are combining agenda items 5a and 5b. i will first present the proposed third amendment to the contract with cmg who is the

designer of the fulsom project and then they will present the final design and then we will have a representative from dpw come up to discuss the phasing, scheduling and i will wrap up and discuss the third amendment to the mou. the commission will be taking two separate actions to approve amendments to the existing contracts with cmg and dpw to increase funding for services relating to the foulings street project. foulings street is the key

component of both the trans bay development plan and the project has been in design since 2011. in 2013, dpw was hired to be the projecproject manager. ocii is responsible for funding the portion within the redevelopment plan which is the ramp to bus street. the design is complete and it's been bid out. d pw must have commission of funding for the ocii for the project to award to the general

contractor. we plan on starting construction in september of this year and excellent construction september of 2020. the public outreach has been extensive. the schematic was approved in 2013. i will discuss the third amendment to the cmg contract. ocii hired cmg in 2011 to design multiple trans bay projects including fulsom project. since then approved two amendments to the current contract. the current is close to $3.7 million and to date we have spent about 2.7 million.

the third amendment work scopes, in order to keep the project moving forward, we obtained approval to complete the line items. ocii paid additional 407, 649 to cmg due to number one, extended design schedule from the nine months that's in the current contract to the actual dpw and city ocii schedule of 42 months. additional plan set required by the city also and extensive tree permitting done with help by

cmg. new work design services not to compete $260,320. the scope for this portion is to assist block developers with design of streetscapes surrounding their projects. extend construction administrative services from the 12 months in the existing contract to the actually dpw schedule up to 24 months. contract expires on june 28 so we are extending the contract five years. the cmg contract rs -- i would d

she will represent the folsom design followed by carrie ru rudneck and she is the project manager for the folsom project. >> good afternoon carrie with cmg landscape architecture. i am patiently awaiting the slides. >> welcome. >> thank you. i am briefly going to try to

move through the project design as quickly as possible. we have been working with ocia and public works on the design. as shane mentioned the scope is from second to spear street, about six block area. when we started the project our charge was to implement the 2006 approved open face plan for the transbay area along folsom street. we saw the main project goals as creating vibrant main street linking the rin con and transbay neighborhood and providing services for all the new residents. the second piece we saw was implementing green infrastructure. that meant re-establishing

transit from folsom to existing and new residents in the area and also providing a two-way bike lane, a dedicated bike lane eastbound and westbound and then the third layer of that is providing wideth sidewalk for pedestrian circulation. our next goal for the project was to create beautiful kind of places to sit and gathering spaces along the street scape. the last one that is listed here talks about the use of enhanced materials and planting along the street to create a unique neighborhood within san francisco. this lenderring starts to just what the project will look like and the enhancements. i know it's fairly small.

we have a regular tree canopy and also moving in the tree lines to create more areas for pedestrians and for bus islands for the new transit that will be established as well as the bike lanes. this next slide is just a quick overview about how traffic flow works in the area. we all know there will still be cars on folsom street even with these other added forms of mobility, so between second and essex will be maintained as one way east eastbound changed from four lanes to three between essex and first similarly two way with the westbound dedicated to first

only and from 1st to spear two lane traffic. we will have a continuous bike lane both east and northbound separated from particular traffic with just a painted buffer and then we will have the three bus islands as well as anothealoading area on each blo. as we know there is a lot of drop offs and yo ubers and lift, so that was another component rolled into the project. this is an enlarged view that represents more clearly the bus

loading island and then the green striping are the bus lanes. for gathering we created these rain gardens that provide opportunities for seating, both on seat walls and benched unique to this neighborhood. we have enhanced materials to try to unify the street and we have enhanced color concrete and granite bands on a regular rhythm that work with the street trees. then we have a suite of site furnishings that will be consistent. we have been working with the developer to make sure that the site furniture works with the project to create one unified neighborhood. we have one particular street

type that is currently planted and we are keeping some of the brisbane boxes and also planting more colorful plantings at the rain gardens. the final picture is the block six developer who has started to implement this plan. we have been working with the developers closely to make sure the design is unified throughout folsom street. >> good afternoon. i am kellie ridneck and i am the

project manager. i am relatively new to this project. i am joined today i have our public information officer, and our project lead engineering brian degussman and contract lead and also joined by our contract monitoring division. the neighborhood outreach is pretty stand but we will do a

little bit of extra things here so that because there is so much going on with traffic, with development and all of that, but what you see here is basic outreach noticing, thirty day and ten-day noticing when we start construction and the open communication with the community on-site we have our pio, public information officer visiting the site regularly, so being open to comments that are coming in. we do both mailings, physical mailings which will be the 30-day and 10-day an also on as-needed basis a newsletter in the mail, a hard copy to folks within a four block radius. next slide.

we have a project website that has been up for some time and will be updated regularly. we also will have a newsletter, e-mail newsletter that will go out similar to what the city is doing now in the second street project that will go out on a regular basis and that is electronic opt-in newsletter and we use next door, facebook, and twitter. we also have a lot of wonderful organizations in the neighborhood cac and east cut, so we have that as a conduit of information in and out and we hear from them and disseminate information through them and standard ouc outreach we do thrh

police, fire, 311, caltrans. then we have press release which is traditional format for getting things out and traffic advisory because we know traffic is something forefront on people's minds and often comes up as the most pressing kind of urgent issues that people have. as you know the area is seeing rapid transformation. this is showing what the development projects that we have going on and what we need to coordinate with, so between second street and free monday, we have two development sites and this shows the constraints in terms that we can work on the

south side of the street but have to recognize the traffic routing specs that require three lanes of open, and this one shows the areas funded through city-impact fees, so in the orange outline you see the area not funded through ocii funds. similarly on the eastern side of the street the last block to the east we have another project scheduled to be completed or you have a development project scheduled to be completed in january 2020, so you have to be working around that project in terms of coordination during construction. i think that's it. i suppose if there are any questions for any of us?

>> i will now discuss the third amendment to the mou with dpw. ocii hired dpw in 2013 to act as manager for the project. the originalal had three units of work and the originalal mou authorized funding for phase i only which was design services through 50% cds. since then there have been two

mou amendments authorizing work. today i am here to discuss a third amendment which is sub phase 2c which would authorize funding for construction. sub phase 2c, there is 11 divisions of dpw that oversee the construction to make sure the project is built with approved plans on budget and on schedule. also includes funding for general contractor portion which is a contract between dpw and

general contractor. the scope also includes funding for puc and mta for construction and support services. total authorization is phase 2c -- the mou amount to date then would be $19,709,347. this portion is being funded by ocii with existing bond proceeds. regarding the contracting per 2013mou we are relying on the city's contracting requirements,

the city has 25% lbe goal. michell engineering chose to construct the project is city-certified -- 72% based on ocii's policy. the city has mandatory participation levels of 50%. the next step july and august dpw awards contract to general contractor and issue notice to proceed. will begin construction in september and project will excellent in mid 2020.

here are the two actions. we have representatives of dpw, contracting folks, and also cmg to answer any questions. thank you. >> thank you. do we have any speaker cards? >> >>clerk: i did not receive any. >> chair mondejar: i will close the public comment and turn to fellow commissioners for any comments or questions. >> commissioner bustos: i have a question regarding the design. one of the things i am seeing a lot in terms of a lot of projects that are happening in san francisco especially with downtown is removing a lot of the parking spots.

we have a huge stretch that i see with a lot of parking taken away, and that concerns me because it is downtown and there are some businesses that have sort of not just with this project but first floor retail space and traffic is already bad enough to find a place to park when more spots are being taken away because prior to this particular project people used the only to park on both of those blocks and so now they are being taken away and i see other things like muni hogging up another whole side of the street. that concerns me.

it's i not good. >> there is some parking remaining i think about 22 spaces along the stretch between essex and spear street. currently right now between seconsecond and essex that will remain the same. as a city goal as a a district goal was be to bring in other forms of transit with bicycles and muni as you mentioned to arrive to the area with multimodal forms of transportation. a lot of the residents and services will be serving a lot

of the new residents and they do have parking in all of the block developments, so i think we see this as a lot of retail used by the residents in that neighborhood so they will be walking in the shorter downtown region. >> just that downtown belongs to everybody. i see the chaos down there and i don't know if it will get worse. i don't know if it's a question or comment but as a whole, we really should be thinking about, i know people want to get people out of cars, but people also have a choice and if they have a car and they want to use it, you should be able to use it. if you have a bake you should be able to get on your bike. it just seems like the city is moving more and more away from allowing people to have that choice, so that is one thing.

the second thing regarding the plants, you have the large cape rush that i see and i see that on some of the other neighborhoods like i live in the mission and i see a lot of that type of planting there. the only thing that concerns me is at night i also see a lot of rodents coming in and out of those bushes, so i would just want hopefully, i don't know what we mea need to do because s nice when we want to put plants up on the street and in the mission you have at lot of people that want to put plants everywhere but they are not maintained. >> in this neighborhood we are in a lucky situation where you have the cdg that will be maintaining that and people out

there on a regular basis. >> commissioner bustos: my next set of questions is regarding the contract with public works. you know i'm always concerned when there is constant amendments happening to a project because it's almost like we don't have unlimited resources and part of the reason why we contract out and go through a bidding process is for people to give us the best, fair cost and $17 million is a lot of money and i'm sure that every penny is probably used well and in a wise way, but i get concerned when we are constantly amending things because then it's like when does it stop and if it doesn't stop, why didn't we do a better job of looking at the biggs an bids and if peoplea bid forward why didn't they stick with it. are we looking at this being

towards the end of the amendment process for this contract? >> yeah, i can have kelly talk about the bid process and their process with the contractors. i am totally with you on the cost situation. costs have gone up a lot and it's been a major issue. with this project folsom back when we came to the commission in 2013 we said the budget would be in the 12 million range and now how many years later it's at 12.8, so it hasn't been a huge increase when you compare it to you know other construction costs and i can have kelly talk

about the process. >> as shane said we are seeing bids come in quite high these days. we have a low bidder and the construction contract and the low bidder is $16.5 million for the project. it did come in 150% over what we estimated and that is kind of what we are seeing unless we were to put this project on hold and wait, we don't know how long, until construction costs come down. one of the things we saw that was really high in this contract in this bid was for the concrete base for our street paving, so it just happens that there is so much demand for these types of materials and things like that they are very expensive right

now, so it's not something that we have any control over today except to wait and we don't know how long. nobody can predict when this boom will subside. >> chair mondejar: if i may the contract before you today the first and second amendments were regarding soft cost so it was really designed in getting construction document through and this is the first time you are approving the construction piece of it, so in terms of the agreement in front of you approving the contract it is a first. it was sequenced that way so we could have more certainty in what the cost is. >> commissioner bustos: appreci. we hold the trust of our

community with the resource. that is very helpful for me and for anyone who may be watching on tv. >> we feel from the experience of the city and contracting we feel this is a really solid bill. this is someone we have worked with a lot. we had three bidders and we had two that were quite a bit higher. >> thank you. >> chair mondejar: commissioner singh. >> commissioner singh: how many man hours were required to look into these sites? >> sorry, can you rephrase the question? >> commissioner singh: how much

time is needed to look after this, about how many mens? not construction i mean the landscaping. >> oh, for the landscape portion, i will have carrie come up. >> do you mean postconstruction to maintain? i'm not sure i have an exact hour amount to give you. i know that the cbd has reviewed plans and set a budget for maintaining the street scrape and hope space in thand open sp. i wasn't part of that process. >> the commune benefit district will do the maintenance on top of the