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the weight of the package. we encourage moving the policy forward and encouraged the city to look further to reducing cups and food containers and associated food wear items that we see out in the ocean and on our streets. thank you. >> any other speakers? come on up? >> i am with an organization called lonely whale. we began two and-a-half years ago our founder is adrian who is an actor. we had straw less ocean.
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we analyzed media over three years running the campaign. there ask extreme interest in reducing the straws in cities nationally. no one had organized the effort. we went to the city of seattle and rap the campaign -- ran the campaign to remove 2.3 million pieces of plastic by working with over 150 venues, including the airport, space needle, and it was so popular in the city that the city of seattle approached our team. we created a culture. we asked that they announce the single use plastic straw ban at our press conference. it was really fin and really effective we see this trend all over the world from london to new york where they had a
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hearing last week. they are pushing that in new york city to chicago, new mexico, oakland, san francisco. this city is the first to push the effort.
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-- being looked at, being proposed, etc. right now, other than the city. so it's unique in that. and i think there's a real leadership position that can be taken to that effect, if you decide to put yourself there. thank you. >> president adams: thank you. any other members of the public. >> my name is jamie and i've worked with two dozen restaurants within the city and so many is very important to me. to get surf rider and get things
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checked off. we initially bought some paper because there was a promotion to see how it's went. we just eliminated straws entirely. we don't have them at all. we have a diverse clientele, people from all over the world, businessmen from across the street. there's been zero pushback. when you have a customer ask, you say, it goes into the bay. we have the advantage of there being a bay right there. financially, it's been fantastic and supported with zero pushback. i have a bar as well and they use all metal. they find it sexier. they don't like paper, don't want plastic. very successful. there's some theft because they really like them and they disappear.
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so it may be good to have them for sale. another restaurant of mine uses paper. and between the three of them, it's a bar, high-end mexican restaurant, and right on the water, there's been zero pushback, no issues, and it's moving everybody away from having a straw. our tenders tells me there are two reasons. one, women like them with red wine because they don't want to get their teeth -- it seems odd, but a bartender told me that. and then the other one was having something for handicapped people. i have a friend who is a quadriplegic and she has to have a straw. most people with disabilities have a tendency to bring their own straws. i can just say it's been a financial savings and widely accepted by the public. >> president adams: great. thank you. any other members of the public?
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>> hello. i'm jamie lions. thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak. i'm a small business owner here. i own a company called ecopliant products. i wanted to have a quick comment with inventory and price. the business i started about a year ago was to solve this exact problem, as someone who cared about the environment and participated in beach cleanups and talking to restaurants. i realized it was hard for them to get aardvark straws, which is really the brand that people know, in terms of quality and durability in paper straws. so we created a company to hold inventory. we bought inventory to prepare for the demand and to be able to provide locally at a cost that's affordable to the restaurants, bars, clubs, hospitals in the area. so we've been operating for about a year. i have inventory.
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i offer free, next-day delivery to restaurants, bars, clubs, in the area and our price is about 50% cheaper than what it would be if you bought directly from the manufacturer. so i think there will be a lot more of me of and why think that inventory will be prohibitive. i think the market and demand will create business opportunities for others and there will be more of month -- manufacturers and distributors to allow this to happen. >> president adams: great. thank you. any other members of the public? seeing none, public comment supervisor closed. commissi commissioner dwight? >> vice-president dwight: eliminate straws altogether? is that going to work for you? >> commissioner corvi: i hope so. [laughter] >> president adams: is that it?
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>> vice-president dwight: yes. >> commissioner yee riley: thank you for changing the food vendor to producer. that makes sense. the 10% requirement of re-usable cups and -- is that enough, 10%? if i have 100 people, only to have 10 re-usable cups? and then how do you determine the attendance of an event? is it the honor system or how are you going to enforce your -- you know, this law? >> hi, everyone. i'm alexa kelty, department of the environment. i work with jack and ashley at the department. the events -- we'll work closely with the permitting agents, so department and rec park and sfmta, they manage the permitting process for events. on that permit, they will say how many attendees they estimate.
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so we'll be basing their goal, their 10% goal, on that attendance number. does that answer your question? >> commissioner yee riley: yes. >> the street closure, i was using sfmta. it used to be sfdpt. yeah, that one as well. so we'll work closely with all of the permitting and port property to make sure that that language is in the people -- permitting process. >> president adams: commissioner ortiz? >> commissioner ortiz-cartagena: thank you, everybody, for your presentation and your time today. i have more of a curiosity question. there are fast food chains that brand their straws as part of the way they drink their beverage or set their beverage apart. have you gotten any pushback from them?
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>> president adams: she's public. you can't. >> great question. i personally have not. we've been watching out to smaller businesses. one thing i can say is that one of the things that people bring up is a cold beverage, a lot of people drink their iced coffee or other cold beverages with a straw and starbucks is starting to use a strawless lid now. it looks like a hot coffee lid but it's clear and has the same opening and so i think like what everybody is talking about is the market will respond to this and that's the lid that could be used at a mcdonald's or burger king pretty easily, or they could switch over to the paper straw version. want to add anything? >> president adams: any other commissioner comments? i will chime in then. i like this ordinance.
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i think it's already happening. wherever you go, you are seeing paper straws. i know when i was in the south bay, there was a couple of places down there that have gotten rid of them altogether. i'm in seattle once a month. i see the big change up there. and even with starbucks up there, they have changed. this goes along with the plastic bag ban and everything else. and this is what we need to do to change the environment. so i remember when the plastic bag ban came and everybody was freaking out about it. now everybody has -- we have bags in the trunks of our car. >> not me. >> president adams: yeah, you have rickshaw bags. the public just gets used to it. as far as cost, i appreciate
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what you said. i was concerned about buyers and how you feel because you deal with it. i would not mind adding the city stuff when we do our motion. do we have a motion? >> move to support this legislation as presented. >> second. >> is it motion with an amendment that the city consider allowing city vendors to apply the cost of complying with this law to its invoice to the city? >> yes. i will take that amendment to my -- >> president adams: yes. that's a good one. okay. so we have a motion by commissioner dwight. seconded by commissioner yee-riley. we'll do roll call. [roll call]
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>> president adams: motion passes 6-0 with one absent. >> thank you. very very much. >> b.o.s. file 180320, catering as accessory use in neighborhood commercial districts. ordinance amending the planning code to allow catering as an accessory use to limited restaurants in commercial districts under certain conditions. >> i will be doing the presentation. commissioner safai's aide was going to be here and can't now. i will walk you through.
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catering as an accessory in commercial districts right now is not permitted. it's not permitted in neighborhood commercial districts unless the catering use provides products for retail sale in the same location where the caterer is using -- or is in use of -- is using, excuse me, the place to make their product. this amendment would permit catering to limited restaurants only and limited restaurants are one of the definitions that there are type 20 liquor license, which is only offsale beer and wine in neighborhood commercial districts. the catering use does not
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operate more than 70% of the total time permitted for the limited restaurant in terms of total time committed. the caterer is not -- does not serve directly from the lot to the clients and is not allowed to require retail items at the catering site, the restaurant where they do catering. so what they're saying is they do not want the caterer to be doing deliveries from that site or to have uber eats come up and pick up food. so it's truly just -- they're making their product, their food at that site. they can take it offsite if they're doing an event, but not meant to do takeout/delivery
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type of catering. so, again, just to be very clear, the catering can only -- as an accessory use, can be done at a limited restaurant for 75% of the time that it is in operation. when the business is closed, there's no accessory use catering taking place. supervisor safai chose to limit it to limited restaurants to ensure that the regular restaurants maintain their activated use as a regular restaurant. and this was a recommendation in the retail study list of recommendations. the planning commission heard this last week and their
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recommendation was to allow this city-wide. part of the reason -- to go back -- one of the reasons for the requirement for limited restaurants in neighborhood commercial use is only allowing for 70% of time and not operational hours was to reduce the amount of noise in the evenings. so while the planning commission did not opine on this, it may be something that the planning commission was to apply it citywide. there are uses in c3 areas where you really don't have where there would be noise. could a caterer operate in the off-hours at that location?
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that is something that the commission may want to consider. it's fairly simple. it's not as expansive as the discussion that the commission had during cannabis, not that it would be specific for cannabis, but the need for figuring out how to open up the restaurant environment and the kitchens for needed commercial space. so this is one step being taken in that direction. so i'm happy to take any questions. >> vice-president dwight: educate me here. this is a distinction between limited restaurant and full restaurant? >> limited restaurant, and i have the definition right after your tab, so limited restaurant, i mean, it offers -- the distinction between a limited
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restaurant is that it either does not have beer and wine or it has as type 20 license. a restaurant that has any other type of alcohol is considered a restaurant under the planning. so we no longer usefu full serve restaurant. most of the definition is around liquor license. >> vice-president dwight: so limited restaurants are open fewer hours than those with full liquor license? >> typically and typically more daytime hours. >> vice-president dwight: and so the idea is to use the expensive asset, building out a kitchen, to allow additional use of that asset? >> uh-huh. >> vice-president dwight: okay. >> president adams: any other questions? does this affect you? you guys do catering.
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>> yeah, i mean -- i mean, keeping in mind, brick and mortars are still paying more, but this is a need as we're moving into the era of not having brick and mortars. >> president adams: exactly. i get it. since we have no questions, let's open it up for public comment. do we have any members of the public that would like to comment on item number 5? seeing none, public comment is closed. do we have a motion? or any other questions? >> move to support the legislation. >> second. >> motion by commissioner dwight, seconded by corvi. [roll call]
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motion passes 6-0, with one absent. >> president adams: great. next item, please. >> item 6, director's report. update and report on the office of small business and the small business assistance center, department programs, policy and legislative matters, announcements from the mayor, and announcements regarding small business activities. discussion item. >> commissioners, i have a fairly short report today but i did want to let you know that the commission secretary position, i sent an email, has been posted. so we have another two weeks while that posting is open. so please share it. the budget reserve that i mentioned at the last meeting, we've got through the process and that budget reserved for historic preservation fund. there was $281,000 sitting in
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reserve that was released and we're able to use that to fund the rest of the rent stabilization grants being processed through this year. and that went very smoothly. and then i do want to just take a moment to talk about the hearing that the commission had at the end of may regarding the pet store formula retail at 4049 24th street at that location. there's been some discussion around -- and we had this back in 2009 and 2010 that the -- if the commission's ability to weigh in and make a recommendation to the planning commission is legitimate when the project sponsor is not there to present and so just want to remind the commission that, yes, the commission does not have to
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hear from the project sponsor. we're not -- you're not adjudicating and weighing in on that particular project in the manner in which the commission is. the small businesses that were concerned about the impact of a formula retail entity, it was their responsibility to -- they were scheduled to present to you. it was their responsibility to present to you a compelling argument for you to take action on any set of recommendation. and they decided that they would not take action to support. i just want to make sure that -- there's been quite a bit of discussion after the scenes after the planning commission vote, which voted not to grant the conditional use for that project site. that, yes, the commission's
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action was completely appropriate. so you were there to hear from the small businesses. they -- you chose that they made a compelling case and took your action. and i made it very clear to the planning commission when i presented the commission's response that it's rare and exceptional that i'm before them on the commission taking action on very specific projects. it's not something that the commission does and takes it very seriously. and the times i've been before them have been around pet stores and so there's this tfor -- historic in that pet stores are
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small and an important entity to preserve. i presented but the small businesses did a very good job and really presented and were well-choreographed on different items and elements to prove their case. if you have any questions about that, i'm happy to take them and i just wanted you, in case there were questions and comments from behi behind the scenes that -- that the commission's action was completely appropriate. and then today there was a press conference in chinatown with the chinese consolidated benevolent association, six families, with
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director huey, going to be doing around the accessible business entrance program, so it was to invite the predominantly chinese press to get the word out about a workshop that we'll conduct on july 16 in chinatown and thank you, commissioner yee riley, for attending and speaking at the press conference. so those are the key items that i have and am happy to answer any questions you may have. >> vice-president dwight: i just want to say that i attended the hearing for the c.u. and want to commend director for making her remarks at the commission hearing. the two commissioners mentioned while they were deliberating their decision that both our hearing of that and our decision on that matter and the director's presentation both made an impact on their decision process.
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so sometimes we make a difference. >> president adams: we are the office of small business. any other questions for the director? seeing none, open it up for public comment. do we have any members of the public that would like to comment on the director's office? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> excuse me, president. i realized there was one other item. i know we have a long list of new business items. so this week i am preparing that list and the timeline. so i just wanted to respond to that so i will get that out to you by the end of the week. >> president adams: thank you. next item, please. >> item 7, commissioners' reports, allows president, vice president and commissioners to report on recent small business activities and make announcements that are of interest to the small business community. discussion item. >> president adams: only thing i have is that i did attend the council of district merchants
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dinner at the olympic club. that's all i have. >> commissioner yee riley: i also want to mention i attended a press conference this morning with director. and it -- the department head of d.p.i. was there and he's bilingual, so it was really good that he gives information in both languages, english and chinese. and the six company, the directors, a lot of them were mono language. so it's helpful. i was there to explain the events and answer questions about the a.d.a. and a.b.e. so it's important for some of the merchants and business owners to attend a workshop.
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so far, only 7 or 8 people are signed up. we need to have a lot of information. so we're pushing for it and make sure that more business owners and property owners attend. it would prevent them from getting into all kinds of troubles. >> president adams: it was smart going through the six companies. >> commissioner zouzounis: i thought the speakers and lineup and to hear about a lot of the collaborations between merchants and schools and work force development that doesn't get a lot of credit, whether it's collaborations with i.c.a. and internship programs, that was great. i also attended the
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african-american chamber of commerce event. it was a great event. i'm also continuing to field calls after the passage of prop e and i'm looking to hear back from the department of public health and the city on a more precise timeline, whether it's inmr implementing a ban on flavored tobacco or not. and people are freaking out. >> i attended the healthy spot c.u. meeting as an observer, just to observe. i was curious to see what the commission was going to do and how they were going to make them decision. i was very impressed with the
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mobilization of the merchants and citizens and the residents in noe valley in opposition. it was an interesting process to watch play out and see if it had influence on the commissioners and i think that it did. i don't know where -- i can't know which way they were leaning before they came into the room, but it was very clear that they were taken aback by the number of people that were there for public comment. a lot of people made public comment. it's in the record how many. it must have been 30, 40 people doing public comment. and it was actually even the public comment was well orchestrated. people did not dwell on exactedly the same issue. theres with a range of issues. so it seemed that they will been well organized. even had t-shirts printed up that said deny on it so it was clear who was in opposition.
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it was an interesting exercise of democracy here in our city. >> president adams: come to my neighborhood. it's like that. [laughter] it's a monthly occurrence. >> and as we told people that came here to testify, the two legacy businesses that we inducted most recently, that it makes a difference to show up.
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those people here. we impacted the decision process by the actions that we took and the message that we delivered at the hearing. it can be done, and when we are passionate about the issue ourselves as commissioners and passionate as business owners and neighbors and residents, we can affect change. a lot of times people feel like their vote doesn't count and they are part of the anonymous crowd. it is not so. we have more impact, i think, than going to the polls. you take very specific action on
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very specific issues and you can affect people's decision process, those wh are the gatekeepers if they are the decision makers or mayor. >> any other commissioner reports? seeing none. do we have public comment on commissioner reports? seeing none. public comment is closed. next item. >> item 8 new business. new agenda items for future consideration by the commission. discussion item. >> commissioner. i have been engaging the mission regarding the bus line. i have copied the director and president adam os it. i have asked and they have agreed to come to the presentation and how they could do the mitigation regarding the impact on small businesses. >> do they have to do it on the
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16th? >> obviously, they saw what happened on the mission corridor, and, unfortunately, we are trying to mitigate that. they knew this going on that 25% of total sales was going to be affected. there is a 25% decline in the corridor. foot traffic has declined considerably as well so they are trying to do better outreach, but this is an opportunity to give them feedback, you know, see what we can do. >> i know we are going to have department of public health come in and talk about prop e. i hear from and i don't know if you hear from it. i heard from two smaller stores, liquor stores, they make sandwiches. the department of public health is coming in to make them change the way they cook bacon around
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stuff like that. have you heard of any of that? >> i want to get more information. i have a small business owner that needs help at the moment. i can't figure this out. they have been doing business the same way for 30 years, never had a problem in 30 years. all of a sudden the department of health came in to make them change the way they do their business. see if you can help me with that. any other new business? do we have public comment on new business? seeing none, public comment is closed. next item. >> please show the office of small business slide. >> it is our custom to begin and end each small business commission meeting with a reminder the office of small business is the only place to start your new business in san francisco and the best place to get answers to your questions
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about doing business in san francisco. the office of small business should be your first stop when you have questions with what to do next find us online or in person at city hall. best of all, our services are free of charge. if you have any concerns or opinions about policies that affect the economic vitality of small businesses in san francisco, please come to the small business commission meeting. if you need assistance with small business matters, start here at the office of small business. >> i item 9. adjournment. >> second. >> all in favor. >> aye. >> meeting adjourned at 3:35 p.m. -
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>> shop & dine in the 49 promotes local businesses and challenges resident to do their showing up and dining within the 49 square miles of san francisco by supporting local services within the neighborhood we help san francisco remain unique successful and vibrant so where will you shop & dine in the 49 san francisco owes must of the charm to the unique characterization of each
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corridor has a distinction permanent our neighbors are the economic engine of the city. >> if we could a afford the lot by these we'll not to have the kind of store in the future the kids will eat from some restaurants chinatown has phobia one of the best the most unique neighborhood shopping areas of san francisco. >> chinatown is one of the oldest chinatown in the state we need to be able allergies the people and that's the reason chinatown is showing more of the people will the traditional thepg. >> north beach is i know one of the last little italian
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community. >> one of the last neighborhood that hadn't changed a whole lot and san francisco community so strong and the sense of partnership with businesses as well and i just love north beach community old school italian comfort and love that is what italians are all about we need people to come here and shop here so we can keep this going not only us but, of course, everything else in the community i think local businesses the small ones and coffee shops are unique in their own way that is the characteristic of the neighborhood i peace officer prefer it is local character you have to support them.
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>> really notice the port this community we really need to kind of really shop locally and support the communityly live in it is more economic for people to survive here. >> i came down to treasure island to look for a we've got a long ways to go. ring i just got married and didn't want something on line i've met artists and local business owners they need money to go out and shop this is important to short them i think you get better things. >> definitely supporting the local community always good is it interesting to find things i never knew existed or see that that way. >> i think that is really
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great that san francisco seize the vails of small business and creates the shop & dine in the 49 to support businesses make people all the residents and visitors realize had cool things are made and produced in san
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. >> the san francisco carbon fund was started in 2009. it's basically legislation that was passed by the board of supervisors and the mayor's office for the city of san francisco. they passed legislation that said okay, 13% of the cost of
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the city air travel is going to go into a fund and we're going to use the money in that fund to do local projects that are going to mitigate and sequester greenhouse gas emission. the grants that we're giving, they're anywhere from 15,000 to, say, $80,000 for a two year grant. i'm shawn rosenmoss. i'm the development of community partnerships and carbon fund for the san francisco department of environment. we have an advisory committee that meets once or twice a year to talk about, okay, what are we going to fund? because we want to look at things like equity and innovative projects. >> i heard about the carbon fund because i used to work for the department of environment.
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i'm a school education team. my name is marcus major. i'm a founding member of climate action now. we started in 2011. our main goal it to remove carbon in the public right-of-way on sidewalks to build educational gardens that teach people with climate change. >> if it's a greening grant, 75% of the grant has to go for greening. it has to go for planting trees, it has to go for greening up the pavement, because again, this is about permanent carbon savings. >> the dinosaur vegetable gardens was chosen because the garden was covered in is afault since 1932. it was the seed funding for this whole project. the whole garden,ible was about 84,000 square feet, and our
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project, we removed 3,126 square feet of cement. >> we usually issue a greening rft every other year, and that's for projects that are going to dig up pavement, plant trees, community garden, school garden. >> we were awarded $43,000 for this project. the produce that's grown here is consumed all right at large by the school community. in this garden we're growing all kinds of organic vegetables from lettuce, and artichokes. we'll be planting apples and loquats, all kinds of great fruit and veggies. >> the first project was the dipatch biodiesel producing facility. the reason for that is a lot of people in san francisco have diesel cars that they were
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operating on biodiesel, and they were having to go over to berkeley. we kind of the dog batch preferentials in the difference between diesel and biodiesel. one of the gardens i love is the pomeroy rec center. >> pomeroy has its roots back to 1952. my name is david, and i'm the chamber and ceo of the pomeroy rehabilitation and recreation center. we were a center for people with intellectual and development cal disabilities in san francisco san francisco. we also have a program for individuals that have acquired brain injury or traumatic brain injury, and we also have one of the larger after school programs for children with special needs that serves the public school system.
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the sf carbon fund for us has been the launching pad for an entire program here at the pomeroy center. we received about $15,000. the money was really designed to help us improve our garden by buying plants and material and also some infrastructure like a drip system for plants. we have wine barrels that we repurposed to collect rain water. we actually had removed over 1,000 square feet of concrete so that we could expand the garden. this is where our participants, they come to learn about gardening. they learn about our work in the greenhouse. we have plants that we actually harvest, and eggs from our chickens that we take up and use in cooking classes so that our participants learn as much
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as anybody else where food comes from. we have two kitchens here at the pomeroy center. one is more of a commercial kitchen and one is more setup like a home kitchen would be, and in the home kitchen, we do a lot of cooking classes, how to make lasagna, how to comsome eggs, so this grant that we received has tremendous value, not only for our center, for our participants, but the entire community. >> the thing about climate, climate overlaps with everything, and so when we start looking at how we're going to solve climate programs, we solve a lot of other problems, too. this is a radical project, and to be a part of it has been a real honor and a privilege to work with those administrators with the sf carbon fund at the department of environment. >> san francisco carbon grant to -- for us, opened the door to a new -- a new world that we
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didn't really have before; that the result is this beautiful garden. >> when you look at the community gardens we planted in schools and in neighborhoods, how many thousands of people now have a fabulous place to walk around and feel safe going outside and are growing their own food. that's a huge impact, and we're just going to keep rolling that out and keep rolling that one
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was asked to do is water system improvement program and one thing i looked at is about the 4.8 billion dollars wurthd of work and a lot of the work was regional. we looked at how can we make sure that we provide opportunities for san franciscan's and people in the region and so we looked at ways we can expand our local san francisco lb program. so, we thought about it and worked with general manager at the time to form an advizry committee to talk about how to include local businesses in the region. >> i was on the first committee back about 10 years ago and the job changed over time. in the beginning, we just wanted people to know about it. we wanted to attract contractors
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to come into the system which is a bidding system and bid on some of these projects. our second job was to help the sfpuc to try to make themselves more user frndly. >> i like that they go out of their way, have contractors trying to teach and outreach to small businesses and lots of creative ways. help the community as well. there is so much infrastructure going on and repair, new construction that i think is helping to get construction back on its feet. >> my faiv rlt part of the committee has been that we have played a opportunity for many small businesses. [inaudible] women owned business to come in and [inaudible] sfpuc. it is a great opportunity because some are so small they have been
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able to grow their companies and move up and bid other projects with the sfpuc. >> everyone i was talking about with any contractor [inaudible] and super markets and things like that and i realize the transition was on the sfpuc. he got that first job and knows about the paperwork qu schedule and still works on this type of job, but he works with general contractors that also did other things. pretty soon it is like he did that one and that one. it completely changed his business. >> my name is nancy [inaudible] the office manager and bid coordinator for [inaudible]
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construction. worked on 10 plus puc, lbe contracts. today we are doing site maintenance on the [inaudible] chr site and currently the gentlemen behind me are working on every moving and basic specs of plants. in order to be success you need to work hard, bid low and keep a look at the sfpuc website for future bidding opportunity. >> this is a successful program because it provides opportunities to regional communities that might not have opportunities to work for large scale projects. the sfpuc is a fortunate agency we have a lot of capital program that span over 7 counties who also to see how some businesses like [inaudible] and bio mass started as small micro
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businesses grow and expand and stay in the program and work on several projects before they graduate from the program. that is what warms my heart. >> my name is college willkerson, the principle for bio mass. bio mass has been in business since 2006. 3 partners. small businesses fill a niche but apply and being a part of the program helped us be more visible and show the city and county of san francisco we can also perform services. >> this program had tremendous impact to the region. in fact, the time we rolled the program out was during the recession. this has h a major positive impact and certified over 150 firms in the rejen and
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collectively awarded $50 million in contracts, and because of the lbe certification it open many opportunities to work with sfpuc. and, i significantly helped the business. it is one of the major contributors to our success.
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sustainability mission, even though the bikes are very minimal energy use. it still matters where the energy comes from and also part of the mission in sustainability
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is how we run everything, run our business. so having the lights come on with clean energy is important to us as well. we heard about cleanpowersf and learned they had commercial rates and signed up for that. it was super easy to sign up. our bookkeeper signed up online, it was like 15 minutes. nothing has changed, except now we have cleaner energy. it's an easy way to align your environmental proclivities and goals around climate change and it's so easy that it's hard to not want to do it, and it doesn't really add anything to the bill.