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and interestingly character defining piece of building, and i think most people who visit the site are taken by it. so this structure was built in 1965. it has been deemed a contributor to the third street historic district, and as you can see there are some plans from b.a.r. architects, who are here today, where we've begun planning what the hotel would look like to reuse the building. this is an image of the waterfront with the stack preserved, as well as unit three rehabilitated into a hotel. as john and enrique stated, this building has not been open to the public ever, so it's an exceptional opportunity for the public to have this open waterfront. we like that the buildings are close to the water. we like the fact that it creates a nice edge loalong th
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waterfront, and we look forward to it being something with a lot of human activity and involvement. so there's an extensive preservation team on board. b.a.r. architects, holms buildings, page and turnbull, p.r.c. so the project sponsor has done an extensive amount of study for all of the buildings. for those of you that have seen the buildings themselves, they speak for themselves to some extent in terms of their state of disrepair. our design for development document that we're preparing with the planning department will have district controls to every sure that the new buildings are compatible with the third street industrial district. we also -- i think it's important to note that the e.i.r. concludes that the third street district will remain eligible for the historic
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register even after the -- california register even after the buildings are demolished, so we are not putting the california register into question. it will remain eligible. there is a interpreter master plan. it's the same group that's worked on pier 70. we'll have clear guide posts and references to the history of the property. this is our preferred project. it's a series of buildings, ranging from 85 to 300 feet. there's a single 300 foot tall tower that is a counter point to the stack, so the stack is 300 foot tall. it's intended to reflect the height of the stack. we've also studied sticks preservation alternatives in our e.i.r. we came before this body at the a.r.c. several months. we did modify our list of
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alternatives on the basis of feedback from this body. we added another full preservation alternatives, so we have two full preservation alternatives and four partial alternatives, about as much as you could possibly study in terms of alternate version of the site. the full preservation alternate that we've included as a result of the a.r.c.'s comments maintains both the same program as the project we're proposing as well as the proposal of the three individual significant resource resources,. what you'll see is because the meter house and compressor house are single story buildings, there's quite a bit of square footage that gets pushed into other parts of the site and more tall buildings that we're proposing as part of the project. so this is the schedule for the entitlements. we have our e.i.r. that's scheduled to be published in
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september, and then, we would be back before you to take comment on that e.i.r. shortly tlafr, -- there after. so thank you very much. >> president wolfram: does any other member of your team wish to speak or is that your entire presentation? >> that concludes our presentation. >> president wolfram: okay. is there any member of the public that wishes to come forward? yes, please come to the microphone. >> hello. i'm peter lindenfall, and i director the potrero hill rehabilitation project. i just want to emphasize the importance of the preserving the brick buildings on this site, particularly station a, the gas house, the gas meter shop, and the gas compressor
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building. a lot of these buildings are unfamiliar with people principally because you can't see them. they're fenced off at the moment by -- excuse me, by pg&e fencing. i've taken one picture of the north end of station a, and you can only see parts of the gate house, gas meter shop and gas compressor building. there's been a lot of talk about maintaining the industrial feeling of the neighborhood, and because of that, i think it would be crazy to take any of these down. i mean, using industrial materials would be no substitute for saving buildings that actually are part of the
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historic fabric of the neighborhood and are very beautiful. thank you very much. >> president wolfram: thank you very much. does any other member of the public wish to comment on this item? seeing and hearing none, we'll close public comment. commissioner johnck? >> commissioner johnck: i'm so excited about what's going to happen here, and thank you for coming here, particularly oecd to bring the project into context with the southern bay front strategy and i think that was really helpful. i think -- and of course i was on the -- at the hearing for the a.r.c. when the project first came in, and i wish we had had more information at that time, but i'm glad you came up with some more preservation alternatives, which we, you know, asked for, and thank you for that. and so while we consider those,
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i think since i've been out to the site, too, and it's absolutely amazing what the challeng challenges are to the site, it ends up creating an entirely new neighborhood and transformation of the site to achieve the goals that you've laid out. and i -- one piece of your presentation which i'm interested in, but i didn't hear about, but as an urban planner, i'm seeing how you're going to have to recreate streets, you're going to have to reorganize the flow of traffic in the context of the preservation goal and new uses, and i wonder if you could spend a little time just giving us some more information about the challenges of reorganizing the parcel to achieve flow and that's an important piece of
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looking at it when you look at preservation. however you reorganize the site it's going to affect how the preservation elements shake out of that. >> mr. landa, upt to address that or maybe mr. abrams. >> the site plan, if we bring up the overhead, you'll be able to see it. okay. so currently, the site has no internal streets, right, so there's 23 street, and that's it. and there's humboldt street, which is a pretty narrow street in a pretty significant state of disarray which runs east and west and terminates into the project street. what we're proposing to do is match up the street grid with the street grid that was created by pier 70. these are maps when you look back on historic records, you can see there was some path for travel in a similar direction. what we're really trying to do is link the project seamlessly
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with pier 70, so the main street would be the large blue line running up and down, which is maryland street. georgia street is a street that would be the second street. that street does run through where the compressor house and meter house are, and that's another reason we are proposing to demolish those building is because we want to open up the site as much as we can. if those buildings remain where they are, it doesn't allow us to have as much access to the project as we otherwise would have. >> when the planning department looks at these large sites that are being proposed for complete transformation of use, everything is -- it's almost like starting from scratch on these sites. the goal here of course is to not only create a great development that includes a lot of housing, but connect these
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sites as much as poblg into the fabric of the city -- possible into the fabric of the city. so it's this incredible challenge how we -- not only is it a challenge in terms of urban design but then it's a financial challenge to the project, because unlike most projects, they're having the cost of building buildings, the cost of the new infrastructure that goes with them. so that's the challenge here. we encourage project sponsors to build as many street connections as possible, and which they're trying to do, and sometimes, the push back is we can't afford to build all those streets. the project won't justify the cost of all those streets, so it's a tradeoff, but it's both an urban design challenge and a financial challenge when you're trying to build a whole new set of infrastructure on these sites. >> just to respond, then, i'll let others ask questions or whatever, i'd like to look at this, too, as a cultural
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landscape. as you say, it's never been really open to the public, and all of a sudden we have this fantastic new opportunity to bring the public in and the whole transformation with the other southern bay front project. so one, after i've seen it, knowing what needs to be achieved in order to create this transformation, when we look at preservation, knowing that the reason for demolition is to, obviously, make the streets and create the streets that we begin to think more about how we can preserve some of the integrity of those buildings without saving them. there's some elements that we could, you know -- this gets into the discussion of facadism and what's right or what's wrong, but you know, maybe portions of these could be moved to create an entrance to the site. i'm thinking -- i've always loved the entrance to pier 70 with the arch way there, reminding us of what this looked like, you know, the dry dock, and of course, the
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connection to pier 70, too, is a fascinating thing to think about and how we relate that. and of course, your challenges here are much -- to me, much more significant. at pier 70, we had a lot of good structural -- even though there's been a lot of renovation there, the historic core, there was a lot more going for it, structure, than some of the buildings here without the roof and the water and the floors, etc., etc. so i guess that's what i'm starting to think more about, is how we get into the discussion of facadism and what will work maybe with some pieces of those contributor buildings, you know, saved, where they can be and moved somewhere to create an entrance. >> maybe rather than using the term facadism, creative solutions that are a little bit out of the preservation lexicon or something. >> that was a lot of words. >> yes, that was good.
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>> that was more elegant vocabulary. but that's what i was thinking at the moment. fantastic opportunity. >> president wolfram: thank you. commissioner pearlman? >> commissioner pearlman: yeah. i want to thank enrique for walking me around the site this morning. it really is incredibly impressive. i just want to emphasize there is no street grid, so it is a creation of a street grid as director rahaim just talked about. this is always the tear between preservation and cost of development and what was appropriate for your times, what was appropriate 150 years ago when these things are built and how the city has expanded into these areas that were formerly just industrial and now we're creating these neighborhoods with lots of housing and needing supermarkets and other things that neighborhoods need. so i know that that's the juggling act that the project sponsor's going through.
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but one of the things that i mentioned this morning to enrique is so much of what we talk about as preservationists and historians is these places tell a story. they tell a story of what happened here, and just because something happened here, we evaluate it. it's an evaluation process of we think this is important to tell the story of san francisco, and you know or the story of ship building at pier 70, and this is the story of power at pier 70. the buildings are one way to tell the story, but there are lots of other ways to tell a story, and i think this is a place where the juggling act might end up more on the presentation of the story in a way that's not specifically about buildings -- because of,
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one of the things that's obvious is the horrendous condition. if you get up close to those walls and you see the whites of bricks that's literally bulging out, you touch the brick and it's falling apart. i had an iota of nervousness walking through today because of the notion that an earthquake hits when you're in there, and you've got a talent on a crane that's up there, and it's many tons, and i wouldn't want to be under it when it comes down. clearly, there's that to balance, as well. so i think this is, you know, a fantastic project. i look forward to seeing its development. i also wanted to comment on the facadism. there is a little facade -- for those who haven't been out there, there's this little classical symmetrical facade that's, you know, concrete, painted white, in the middle of those brick buildings that is a
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suite little facade that would be fantastic as a folly on the waterfront, somewhere else on the site. it's totally invisible. no one knows it's there. it was a joke when it was building how distinct it is from the rest of it. and then, the exterior wall that's exposed on station a is quite a beautiful thing. as i was talking with enrique about that central park area that would be perpendicular to that big wall, if even parts of that wall could be incorporated somehow, you know, into a new building or being supported behind so it's the backdrop of the park, there's -- you know, if there are ways to do that, i think facadism is something we have to take on a case by case basis and not just say facadism is good or bad or -- but i think qualify it relative to what its purpose is in a
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project like this. so i'm very excited about this. i hope it keeps moving along at a reasonable clip, so that we can all see the project before we leave this earth. >> president wolfram: thank you. commissioner black? >> commissioner black: i also want to say that i really appreciated the tour, and i -- the project sponsor may not be thrilled with this, but i really encourage members of the public to take this tour. it is a completely different world up close and personal when you get into the buildings and you get close to the exteriors of the building, and it helps you understand it a little better. before i took the tour, i went to pier 70, and i'm sorry to say, i hadn't been there for 1.5 years, two years, and i was absolutely stunned by how fabulous the buildings were. not only were people having lunch, but it's alive and kicking and it looks fantastic. it was really nicely done.
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it's obviously very vibrant, and i see the potential for that occurring on this site, as well. one of the things that's hard -- i wasn't on the commission when the a.r.c. reviewed there, or at least i didn't see any of the reports. we don't have a staff report in advance of today, so it's hard for us. there's a lot of information coming at us, and it's something that i commented on during the site visit. we're making all sorts of comments on decisions that are very complex on this property. the property has tons of limiting factors on it. we talked already about the grid. there's also an existing power station that's never going to go anywhere, and when you're within 30 feet of the place, you can hear that buzz. that's going to limit the uses that go near that? there are obviously the
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historic structures. i -- when i went in the existing historic structures, i was really disheartened by the condition of them. the structural sound, they are not structurally sound. i was more concerned than urp about an earthquake when i was inside that structure. they are not in good condition so that's obviously going to have to be part of our thinking. i don't think the public knows enough about this project yet, so there was a slide that showed the sleteps -- if you wouldn't mind putting that up again so people can know when they can start reading materials and what the dates
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are, if you can find that. >> one thing, commissioner, you said that the project sponsor would not welcome more tours, we enthusiastically lead tours. they regularly sell out. to the extent they regularly sell out, we'll start doing them twice a month. it's a tricky site to have them on, because part of the site's a construction site, but we've done everything we can to host the community at the site. we'll have people at the site in september for two events. we'll toured interns, students, whoever wants to get on the site, we find a way to get them on the site. we do bring the public as much as we do on the site, and we are going to continue that process throughout the entitlement process. >> president wolfram: okay. sf tv, can you bring up the --
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you can see now, commissioner black, the project schedule. >> commissioner black: right. it looks like this is going to the preservation commission on the 23rd. >> planning commission on the 23rd. we'll have comments -- after the draft e.i.r. comes out, we'll provide comments on those. >> in terms of the schedule roughly being -- we plan to have a copy of the draft e.i.r. being published in september. we will also be releasing the draft design for development document, soon there after, the infrastructure plan. we'll be in front of planning and the historic planning commission as well to have hearings on the e.i.r., as well, and that will continue on through the string as will our outreach process. >> commissioners, if i could, my sense it -- if i could, looking at this schedule, it's likely that the e.i.r. would come to you in late september or early october for your comments on the e.i.r. that's not specifically listed, but that's my guess given this
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publication schedule. >> commissioner black: thank you. and to members of the public, it'll be on the website so they can review these things as they're posted. having said all that, i'm really excited about this project. i see the coordination of this, and pier 70, along with the rest of what's happening along the waterfront is a fantastic opportunity that the city seems to be taking advantage of. for what it's worth, i think the potential conversion of -- i can't remember what it's called, but the structure next to the stack into the hotel. >> building 3. >> building 3. >> commissioner black: building 3 is clever as can be, and i hope that that's possible, yeah. so those are my comments. >> president wolfram: thank you. i have some final comments here. i don't -- does anybody else have any comments before we
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wrap up? i want to thank you for your presentation. it was really a fascinating project. i would say that in these projects, that there is a lot of new development all happens, and where everything is new, that they are definitely benefited when they're historic resources that are part of it, and that i encourage you to be creative in your thinking and maybe incorporate ways that are not necessarily meeting the secretary standards necessarily, but there are ways to include elements of historic buildings in the development because i think it will provide some richness to the project, just some variety. i am a little concerned about all the new developments that will be proposed as part of pier 70, the southern half of pier 70, and then, the amount of new development, even with your great design, it might be a little bland. i think what we're seeing in mission bay is there's some bland characteristics there
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that just -- you can't really recreate kind of historic elements of buildings when you do new construction. there was similar issues that we've brought up at the hunters point shipyard where we've encouraged that 1307b sor to try -- sponsor to try to keep some of the industrial buildings there. it's a fascinating project with lots of challenges, and i encourage you to be creative in your thinking. so are there any other comments? thank you very much, and our hearing is adjourned. [ gavel ]
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>> we take a lot of pride in what we do. the electric shop covers all of waste water, so out of this location here, we cover everything from oceanside to southeast plant and all the computations including treasure island and yerba buena. we have all the preventative responsibility, maintaining maintenance and also keeping up with work orders from operations. i would say one of the things fortunately for me is the staff is incredibleably motivated. the staff here knows what to do, how to do the job safely, and it makes my job incredibly easy.
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>> they know the job, and they know the challenges, and i think it's all about personal pride. they want to do a good job. from our maintenance group to our i.n.c., dedication to the people. when they're going home, and they're crossing the bay bridge, and they get a call that there's a problem with a pump station on treasure island, they return to work. they turnaround in westbound traffic and get back to work and get this pump back in line, and i can't tell you how much that means to me as a boss and the city and county of san francisco. >> as a group, if they didn't do what they do, the streets would be flooded with waste and gray water, and it could become a health hazard. we take a lot of pride in what we do, and we do the jobs right, and you walk away fulfilled that you've done the
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permanent residents in san francisco eligible for citizenship by lack information and resources so really the project is not about citizenship but really academy our immigrant community. >> making sure they're a part of what we do in san francisco the san francisco pathway to citizenship initiative a unique part of just between the city and then our 5 local foundations and community safe organizations and it really is an effort to get as many of the legal permanent residents in the san francisco since 2013 we started reaching the san francisco bay area residents and 10 thousand people into through 22 working groups and actually completed 5
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thousand applications for citizenship our cause the real low income to moderate income resident in san francisco and the bayview sometimes the workshops are said attend by poem if san mateo and from sacking. >> we think over restraining order thousand legal permanent residents in san francisco that are eligible for citizenship but totally lack information and they don't have trained professionals culturally appropriate with an audience you're working with one time of providing services with pro bono lawyers and trained professionals to find out whether your eligible the first station and go through a purview list of questions to see if they have met the 56 year residents
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arrangement or they're a u.s. citizenship they once they get through the screening they go to legal communication to see lawyers to check am i eligible to be a citizen we send them to station 3 that's when they sit down with experienced advertising to fill out the 4 hundred naturalization form and then to final review and at the end he helps them with the check out station and send them a packet to fill and wait a month to 6 weeks to be invited in for an oral examine and if they pass two or three a months maximum get sworn in and become a citizen
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every single working groups we have a learning how to vote i mean there are tons of community resources we go for citizenship prep classes and have agencies it stays on site and this is filing out forms for people that are eligible so not just about your 22 page form but other community services and benefits there's an economic and safety public benefit if we nationalize all people to be a citizen with the network no objection over $3 million in income for those but more importantly the city saves money $86 million by reducing the benefit costs.
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>> thank you. >> i've been here a loventh i already feel like an american citizen not felt it motorbike that needs to happen for good. >> one day - i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, for liberty and justice for all. >> you're welcome. >> (singing).
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>> (clapping.) >> introduce the san francisco field officer director ribbon that will mirror the oath raise your hand and repeat the oath i hereby declare on oath repeating. >> citizens cry when they become citizenship to study this difficult examine and after two trials they come back i'm an american now we're proud of that purpose of evasion so help me god please help me welcome seven hundred and 50 americans. >> (speaking foreign language.)
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>> she wants to be part of the country and vote so much puppy. >> you know excited and as i said it is a long process i think that needs to be finally recognized to be integrated that is basically, the type of that i see myself being part of. >> out of everybody on tv and the news he felt that is necessary to be part of community in that way i can do so many things but my voice wouldn't count as it counts now. >> it's everybody i hoped for
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