>> director sesay: good

afternoon. it's 1:02 p.m. i'm marily mondejar, tuesday, august 7, 2018. welcome to members of the public. >> chair mondejar: and welcome to our newest commissioner, dr. caroline ransom-scott. thank you for joining our commission! [applause] now we'll put you to work, right? thank you. madam secretary, please call the first item. >> clerk: the first order of business is item 1, roll call. commission members please respond when i call your name. [roll call]

>> clerk: all members of the commission are present. the next order of business is item 2, announcements. the next regularly meeting will be august 21, 1:00 p.m. announcement of prohibition of sound devices. please be advised that the ringing of and use of cell phones and pagers and use of devices are prohibited at this meeting of the chair may order the removal of any person who is responsible for the ringing of or use of a pager or any other device. announcement of time allotment for public comment. please be advised a member of the public has up to 3 minutes to make pertinent public comment unless a commission adopts a shorter period on any item.

it's strongly recommended that any members of the public fill out the speaker card and present it to the secretary. the next order of business, item 3, report on actions taken at a previous closed session meeting. there are no reportable actions. next order of business is item 4, matters of unfinished business. there are no matters of unfinished business. the next order of business is item 5, matters of new business consisting of consent and regular agenda. first, the consent agenda, 5a, approval of minutes, regular meeting of june 5, 2018, and june 19, 2018. 5b, authorizing a memorandum of understanding with the san francisco public utilities commission in the maintenance of stormwater controls in mission bay south open space, mission bay south redevelopment project,

32-2018. >> chair mondejar: do we have any speaker cards on these items? >> clerk: no. >> chair mondejar: i will close public comment. -day have a motion to confirm the consent items? >> i move. >> second. >> chair mondejar: moved by commissioner singe, seconded by commissioner scott. please take a roll call. >> clerk: please announce your vote when i call your name. >> commissioner rosales: yes. >> commissioner ransom-scott: yes. >> commissioner singh: yes. >> chair mondejar: yes. >> clerk: passes. 5c, authorizing negotiation agreement and predevelopment loan in an amount not to exceed $4 million for shipyard 5254 l.p., california limited

partnership for the development of approximately 100 affordable family rental housing units, hunters point shipyard, 52 and 54, and adopting environment review findings pursuant to the california environment quality act, hunters point shipyard redevelopment project and 33-2018, pursuant to the california redevelopment act. discussion and action, resolution 33-2018. madam director? >> mar >> director sesay: thank you. this is before you today, for the approval of the loan. you have taken previous actions on this the first time that it came before you was an informational item and early this year, it came back before you as we

selected a development team and they're here today and will be part of the conversation. this would be the first project. this is to have scale. we're proposing to do the two blocks together resulting in 100 units, all affordable housing. so this would allow the development to continue and it's for development work, understanding, as you know, the department of health is looking at site a and a result of that field work by the department of public health will be made public with whatever the findings are. i want to assure the board and the commission that it allows us

to be prepared. with that, i will call on elizabeth carmelo, senior development specialist, who is working on this project and she will lead the discussion, since we have a development team, who is also available for questions or potentially present as well. >> elizabeth carmelo, senior development specialist with the housing division. i'm here to present on blocks 52 and 54 in hunters point. first, i will orient you to the location. you can see the entire shipyard here and you can see blocks 52 and 54 are outlined in red in the hilltop area. both of these blocks also include market rate development

and market rate development on block 54 is complete and block 52 in the design phase. since these are relatively smaller blocks, we're offering them together, as corrector sesay mentioned, together as economies of scale for the project. a bit of background. blocks 52 and 54 are the first to be offered for development. in september, 2017, ocii issued a request for proposal or r.f.p. for the blocks. the goals of the r.p.f. are to maximize affordable housing opportunities in the project areas serving low-income households at a variety of levels. also to deliver a robust outreach and marketing program to maximize the participation of

the preferences including preference holders and rent-burdened households with feasible developing costs. bayview hunters point senior services. the development team includes jon stewart company as manager and bethune-solomon as architect. it will be a mix of 1-2-and 3-bedroom units. the maximum household income will be 50% of area median income, a.m. i. which is $59,000 per year for a family of four. with the development program, it

in clouds below 50% to serve lower-income households for other preference populations. the development program includes several court yards, podium-level garden, community rooms and teen rooms. now to the items we're asking for your approval on. first the exclusive negotiations agreement or e.n.a., it has an 18-month term with one 12-month extension. milestones are including a financing plan and schematic design drawings. once the designs have been approved, submission of design development documents just prior to the start of construction. the proposed predevelopment loan is for $4 million. it bears a 3% interest rate and has a determine of three years or until it's converted to a

permanent loan at construction closing, subject to commission approval. the development team will use these funds to develop the design and program for the project, complete survey and engineering work and develop a financing plan and secure that financing. no site work will happen prior to the completion of the survey testing and release of the final report as director sesay mentioned. no construction will occur during that time lasting until at least 2020. here's the community outreach we've done to date for this project. we've brought the full citizens advisory committee. last fall, we did an evening meeting with hilltop homeowners and brought the r.f.p. to the commission prior to release. in january and february this year, we went back to the

housing subcommittee to describe the process and recommend a developer team. the team will be going back to the c.a.c. and community with proposed schematic designs once they're more developed. as i mentioned before, the marketing of the units to preference populations is the highest priority. it will follow the shipyard and candlestick point preferences. other preferences, displaced tenants, rent-burdened households. the developer will work on a marketing plan and will get back to you as is complete. as with all of our projects, consultants will be selected.

it's under way and the team is preparing it select the general contractor. the developer is strongly encouraged to select a general contractor joint venture, including s.b.e. our current schedule, subject to change, has us coming back next spring. we'll request approval for permanent loan for the project and hoping to start construction by spring, 2020. i would like to introduce the team. from m.b.s., we have pauline uhl and jimmy li. and janet brown is here from b.h.p./m.s.s. that concludes my presentation, but i'm here to answer any questions, along with the development team. thanks.

>> clerk: we have one speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm oscar james. i'm a native resident of bayview-hunters point, as most of you know. first of all, i'm in agreement with this proposal with the $4 million, but-day have some problems with -- or questions on some of the items. i see nowhere in here for homeless housing, for people who have been in bayview-hunters

point all their lives who are homeless. you need to put aside some homeless housing in this particular project, and any project that comes out into bayview-hunters point, making sure some of those people in our community stay in our community. those who can afford and who cannot afford housing. the other thing i would like to ask for is the person who will be the landlord or the on site -- on site person to make sure that rentals be given, that person should come out of the community. i know one time before the agency had a program here where they trained people in the community. larry hollingsworth was one of those persons. for the agencies to train someone to be from the community

to be the property manager of the units out there in our community. the other thing i have strong concerns about is the contractors coming in there. it should be set aside for community or small business developers. and a lot of our problems are with small contractors is capacity. i would like for you to look into making sure that contractors have a capacity to do some of this work out here in hunters point shipyard. thank you very much. >> clerk: david springer.

>> afternoon, commissioners. first of all, this development looks amazing. it's better than what lennar promised us. so kudos. we all know what's going on in the shipyard with the fraud and the testing. so what i would love to see, putting the specter of fraud behind us. and improve trust in the city. could you add core sample-style testing on block 52 and 54. i know there's been testing done but it was a drive-behind, over street but not on top of the living spaces. we don't know what's under there.

but if there could be some independent testing with core sampling for things like radioactive material and industrial weights and make that public, it would go a huge, long way to improving relationships with the community and also developing trust because a lot of us out there don't have trust. i did not introduce myself properly. i'm a homeowner at the shipyard. so i'm living on top of it now. we're worried. if there was way to get good test data, that would be awesome. that's what i'm asking for. we would love it if public outreach was a little bigger. they did come and have a meeting, but a lot of people couldn't make it, because we got short notice and it was one

evening at an inconvenient team. if there was more public outreach and maybe more than one meeting, people could have authentic input, that would be awesome, too. and that's all i have. i can't wait until the building goes up. it will look great. thank you. >> clerk: no march speaker cards, madam chair. >> chair mondejar: hearing no further requests to speak, i will close public comment and turn to my fellow commissioners for any questions or comments. >> vice chair bustos: long time coming. this has been something that's been in the works for decades and the fact that we're now getting to a point -- i wish we could build it sooner, but i understand there's a process and want to thank the staff for doing its work, so i just want to say that i'm glad we're doing this and would like to move this

item forward for approval. >> chair mondejar: thank you. any other comments from the -- question, commissioner singh? >> commissioner singh: we're 3% interest rate and 50-year loan? >> this is a predevelopment loan, so it has a term of three years or until we roll it into that larger, permanent loan that we'll bring before you for approval. >> commissioner singh: when will they start paying the interest? >> not until after the predevelopment period. it's deferred at this point. >> commissioner singh: when is the completion date? >> the completion would be in 2022. >> commissioner singh: 2023? >> '22. >> commissioner singh: four years, yeah. thank you. >> sure. >> chair mondejar: thank you, commissioner singh. any -- yes, commissioner rosales. >> commissioner rosales: i was interested in hearing and perhaps right now is not the

time, but perhaps suggestions to the comment, the last speaker's comment, about the environmental assessment. i know we're adopting ceqa findings now. i know that's different. >> director sesay: to give background, parcel a was transferred in 2004. and as you know, the way the process works, the regulatory agencies do their review and then our local health department does its review. and at the time, it was deemed fine. since then with all the headlines and so on, we have transferred it to the developer for development and the over 300 units already completed. so in our conversations most recently after the supervisor cohen had her public hearing and at the request of leader pelosi

and mayor farrell at the time, they recommended a retest of parcel a. so to date, the funding from pelosi has led to retest. so public health is the ideal entity to do the test, because they've done it before. as of july 15, they started the testing and they've had had two h.o.a. meetings. because we don't have the experti expertise, in terms of conversations with the e.p.a. and other regulatory agencies, as well as department of public health, they're leading and they've had two meetings in discussing the types of equipment we're doing and testing that is being done.

my understanding is that there would be 30 days at least, because we're doing the areas where the residents reside, which is the hilltop and where this development is. and then they would extend it further to a2 and the rest of parcel a. so going through the retesting as we speak. and getting feedback from the h.o.a. and one of those was potentially trying to do more than what is being proposed and that conversation is happening. and i know that it released the california department of health status and there's another h.o.a. meeting that they will potentially schedule and potentially come back with something about how far they can -- >> so we'll have additional information as time moves? >> yes. >> chair mondejar: thank you. i have a couple of questions.

can you expand a little bit on your marketing outreach? >> sure. i think what we're going to do here is going to be the standard marketing and outreach we do. we haven't gotten to that point yet, but it usually begins right after construction starts. so that construction, as you know, takes a while. it takes almost two years. we would begin the outreach right around that time and do kind of several regular postcards and then some meetings specifically to c.o.p. holders about how to get ready for the housing and then as we get closer to the housing, we'll do meetings on this housing so people can have more info. we don't yet have the early outreach plan from the developer because we're not yet at that stage. as we go through the process, we can explain that -- we can delve

deeper into that. we expect to have similar outreach that we usually do, which begins right after construction starts and goes regularly throughout the construction period, so folks have enough time to get ready. >> >> chair mondejar: and this is by ocii and the developer? >> the developer convenes the meetings, but we review the plan and oversee it. and make sure that we're in agreement with it and make sure that ocii and most of the staff attend the meetings. >> chair mondejar: and your outreach to the residents, the neighbors are ongoing. how often do you rely on the c.a.c. meetings. >> mostly for issues that relate to the homeowners and work with

them to find a time that worked. they've attended the meetings for the updates. haven't had much more to bring them, because the design process hasn't fully gotten under way, as we're here to get the developer the money to do that. we expect to have one more meeting with the hilltop homeowners before that gets, you know, finalized to get the input on the design, but mostly, the c.a.c. is the route for public input, so we try to make sure that folks are plugged in to that mechanism. >> chair mondejar: thank you. if there are no other comments from my fellow commissioners, we have a motion from commissioner bustos. i need a second. double second from commissioners singh and rosales. [laughter] madam secretary, can you please

call the roll? [roll call] the vote is five ayes. >> chair mondejar: motion carries. madam secretary, can you call the next item? >> clerk: 5d, conditionally approving the schematic design of a five-story, mixed-use building comprised of 32 units, including five affordable units and ground floor retail at 4101 third street and adopting environmental findings, pursuant to the california environmental quality act, bayview industrial triangle redevelopment project area discussion and action, resolution 34-2018. >> director sesay: this item before you is new. it's not one of three

enforcement projects. this is within the bayview industrial triangle redevelopment plan, which expires in two years, but we have land use authority, which is why you are approving the schematic design on this building. you have approved two in this area. this one is being worked on, worked on for a long time. and we have the entire team here, who has been working on this including the development team. planning commission will be presenting on this item. i see we have a little mock-up model also. >> good afternoon. thank you, director sesay, and commissioners. i'm associate planner at ocii.

today we're seeking commission approval of the schematic design of a five-story mixed-use building with 32 units, including five affordable units and ground floor retail at 4101 third street in the bayview industrial triangle redevelopment project area. this is one of seven redevelopment areas in san francisco, where ocii has land use authority. no enforce abable obligation exists, but ocii retains regulatory authority for review within the departments. the bayview industrial project area was adopted in 1980 and ocii will maintain authority there until the plan expires in 2020. the project area is comprised of about six city blocks within the bayview neighborhood.

4101 third street site is on a triangular parcel between innis and hudson. it's currently a vacant lot. further redevelopment plan maps are three land use districts. they're separate designations and supersede the zoning districts. it's within the commercial or residential district with residential units above ground floor commercial uses. the redevelopment boundary is shown as turquoise overlay and this is the correct zoning on this slide, sheet a1.2 in the packages, will be corrected to reflect this map. it lists the permitted uses or the d for d outlines the

development controls. it's within the district three, third street corridor district. it is a floor area ratio of 4:1 and height of 65 feet. the proposed development meets the building height and setback requirements. vehicular parking complies with minimum and maximum requirements and requires the bicycle parking to comply with the current recommendations. this table summarizes the building program. the building is comprised of four levels of residential above a commercial ground floor and 15% of 32 residential units will be below market rate and they're distributed equally. on site parking spaces are presented for units and open

space common use on the terrace. it's in very close proximity to transit, making pedestrian and bicycle access easy. bart lightrail is right in front and there are other access to transit within minutes. the schematic design demonstrates compliance with all requirements of the redevelopment plan and design for development standards. at the ground floor, double height restaurant space with a small mezzanine. streetscape improvements, pedestrian, bulb-outs, and flow-through planters. common roof terrace is available to each tenant. the lot itself is a unique triangular or flatiron shape and the building design embraces

this geometry. there's a storefront with a public plaza. and i would like to invite others to present. after their recommendations, i will discuss ceqa findings. >> good afternoon. i'm andrea baker. i will be introducing our project to you this afternoon. thank you. i first want to start before i talk about the project by thanking the staff of ocii, with have worked with us diligently over the last four years to bring you something that i think we feel pretty proud of this afternoon. specifically, i would like to comment laura shivley, jose

campos and raymond li, who have worked with us very diligently. i want to jump right in and talk about -- we also have -- my apologies, our project team, which is reflected here. i want to take a minute to introduce our project sponsors, mr. jack sang and michael sang, who are here with us in the audience. so i want to talk about the changes to our proposal. when we started out four years ago, we had a project that was just over 42,000 square feet, six floors, 54 units, 11 parking spaces, which at the time represented 20% parking ratio, and just over 3,700 square feet of retail space in three separate units. at we have for you today after feedback from community and our key stake holders is a project that is approximately 36,000 square feet, five floors, 32

units with 16 parking spaces, which represents a 50% parking ratio, and just a tad under 3,200 square feet for retail space, which is now represented as one singular unit. so in the course of the four years that we've been working on this, we had 10 community meetings. we met with various c.b.o.s and merchants organizations like the bayview merchant association, butcher town, economic development on third. the bright group, as well as meeting with key stake holders individually. i want to take a moment to touch on the feedback that we got throughout the course of the meetings and how we have attempted to mitigate the concerns that were shared by our community. building height. initially a concern because it was six floors.

the proposal you have in front of you today reflects a five-story building. the retail space, ceiling heights. when we started out, we had 14-foot-high ceilings. speaking with our partners and community members, butcher town, b.m.a. and the supervisor's office, there was a request that the ceiling heights be made taller in part to allow for greater transparency and what we hope will be a more attractive retail space, which means that hopefully it will lease faster and bring much-needed neighborhood retail amenities to our community. parking. as you all know, parking is an issue almost anywhere you go in the city and our neighbors were concerned with the increased tenancy at the site. it is also terminal and the restroom located there. how we have managed to mitigate

that, we started with 20% parking ratio and ended up with a 50% parking ratio. separately, we're in conversations with sfmta in regards to moving the terminal and the restroom. so we think that will all be positive things. and then the issue of the location of the entrance to the garage. it was located on newhall. we have a neighbor on newhall, who has lived there for 40 years, and he expressed great concern about having our parking entrance being directly opposite his own. we have, therefore, moved it to hudson street. the initial design -- folks felt that we needed to do more work on integrating the architectural design into the surrounding neighborhood. we really believe that we have done that and we hope you agree

with us. the last thing i do want to share with you is that in the last year, we have been working with community organizations to activate the site while we've been waiting to get to this point. so last october, we worked with project reckless, who put up a pumpkin patch for the month of october. and in december, we worked with economic development on third and lit a christmas tree on the site. currently, tiffany carter is the owner of a food trailer that operates on that site, popping up several times a week offering lunch and dinner. thank you so much. i will turn it over to mimi lee. >> thank you. good afternoon. this is mimi lee. i'm here to present the design of the project.

the site in front of you today is a unique, triangular lot. it shows a montage, looking northeast from innis and third and through many iterations, scope reduction, feedback from staff and the community, it's evolved into this final scheme that provides functional living spaces and unique facade for each of the three elevations. looking at the context, it shows the building fitting in with four to five story buildings constructed or approved along third street. and starting with the third street facade, the building is visually divided into three sections, breaking the mapping

along the frontage on third and still could have one building. we have a tall storefront base with large windows. and the two corners, angled bay with alternating window locations. as well as contrasting colors. we have an array of sheet metal providing interest. at the same time, looking at the industrial history. this is the most predominant corner of the building. this showcases the two double height windows above the tall commercial entry. and then we transition to newhall street, where being more

residential, we introduced wood panels and green wall to soften the facade. here's a closup of that. so the north face of the building is facing hudson avenue. and it's a transition between the busy third street and the quieter newhall. so the corner steps down, reducing the mass by one floor, with the open roof deck. and the garage entry is relocated to face hudson. for landscaping, we will propose new trees and bulb-outs on north and south newhall street.

there will also be pedestrian-level lighting and security cameras throughout the project. and here is the ground floorplan, which exists in the space in green and the residential entry in yellow and the garage in brown with 16 parking spaces. this is the plaza where at the commercial entry and it's landscaped to draw in customers and have 18-foot ceiling heights that is most of the third street facade. and here is the recessed residential and bike entry, which also spans part of third street. at the mezzanine level, we're

able to creep eight a small mezzanine and at the same time have smaller commercial windows along third street there. the next two slides are similar layouts, and they're a.d.a.-accessible with the elevator and has its own laundry area. third floor is the same layout, which contains the upper level of 201. the fourth floor contains the same unit with the owner's unit on the northwest corner. and lastly the fifth floor is the same with the owner's unit on the north with a private secretary. the project contains a total of 54 bedrooms and five of the units will be part of the b.m.r.

program. and here is the roof deck. we'll be using the wood deck tile and any remaining, unoccupied areas are dedicated to future solar installation. here's the last slide, with materials. mainly the ground floor has more durable materials like woodgrain, and commercial tile. the residential windows will be commercial-grade. corners will be wrapped, and sun-shade system is corrugated aluminum sheets. guardrails will be aluminum rails with tempered glass and then the middle portion of the body is high-quality coats of

stucco. and that concludes my presentation. we have a material board as well as model that you see. we're available for any questions. >> chair mondejar: before we take questions -- oh, you are still -- >> a couple more things. really brief. in terms of project compliance, it complies with the housing policy. the five units will be available to those with 60% of area median income. they've agreed to be in the small business enterprise program and bayview hunters part c.a.c. has endorsed the project. these are some highlights of the conditions of aapproval and they include a notice of restriction for b.m.r., design review and condition that all agency staff time will be reimbursed by the developer. staff has determined that the

proposal is exempt from ceqa, environmental review, and sections 15332, in condition with all zoning regulations, it's less than five acres within an urban, infill area. it would not result in traffic noise and will be served by public services. ocii staff recommends that the commission approve the design for 4101 third street. thanks so much for your time. >> chair mondejar: thank you. okay. do we have any speaker cards? >> clerk: yes we have one, oscar james.

>> thank you. oscar james again. i'm in favor of this particular project, but i have one problem. they didn't come to our -- we are at the st. john's missionary baptist church. we didn't know about any of this, anything about this particular project. i know several homeowners around the area that i know personally. some families have heard of this particular project. the opinion prior to them coming into the community, some of the recommendations they may have changed from the conversations, but just being a person from the community, i would support this particular prague ekojecproject

want them to use minority suppliers and contractors and union workers. thank you very much. >> clerk: no more speaker cards. >> chair mondejar: thank you. thank you, mr. james. so hearing no further requests to speak, i will close public comment and i will -- my fellow commissioners, any questions or comments? yes, commissioner singh? >> commissioner sing >> commissioner singh: is there parking? and it's the 50%, right? >> yes, we are providing 50% parking. 16 parking spaces. >> commissioner singh: how far are the garages? >> it's within the building itself and we're using staffers

to accommodate 16 cars. >> commissioner singh: is there street parking? >> it was one of the concerns and feedback that we got from neighbors with regard to the stress that they currently felt in parking on the street. so we were trying to do our best to minimize any increased parking on the streets because of the additional tenancy on the side. >> commissioner singh: i would prefer 100% parking, but i guess -- okay. thank you. >> chair mondejar: thank you. commissioner scott? >> commissioner ransom-scott: i'm looking at the garage door. is it a double garage door or single? the thing is, on a busy street like that with one car coming out and perhaps maybe two or

three trying to go in, if there was the access and entrance for cars to go out and come in with a double garage, it would help create a great flow. and a smoother moving for the traffic around, as well as pedestrians. >> yeah, we only have a single parking, but we could install a turn table to alleviate that issue. >> commissioner ransom-scott: you are saying there's a single entrance? >> yes. >> commissioner ransom-scott: so one garage entrance for all? >> it's on stackers.

>> commissioner ransom-scott: i'm saying, a double garage door that gives room for a car to come in and one to go out at the same time. that's what i was referring to to widen the door if it's just for one car because traffic will back up and cars will back up trying to go in and come out. >> yes, the parking garage door will allow for two. it's approximately 26 feet wide, allowing for two cars to go in and out and it's on hudson, not third, so it's a quieter side street than along third street. >> commissioner ransom-scott: okay. thank you. >> chair mondejar: commissioner bustos? commissioner rosales? >> commissioner rosales: i would like to comment the team on the design. given the triangular, it's a double the etandra.

it's beautiful for what i'm seeing. commissioner bustos, would you say it satisfies the wow factor? [laughter] so i like the design. that's why i asked to see the material board. i comment the team on that. i do have a couple of questions because i'm not familiar with the area. we typically know about amenities in the neighborhood. can someone give me an idea of what the amenities in the neighborhood are already? >> i can try. this site is located just a couple of blocks from the bayview plaza. which has a number of businesses including banks and restaurants and goodwill and other services like that. starbucks, a recent addition.

>> commissioner rosales: it's probably too early, but the hoped-for retail uses? >> yes. we started out with 3,700 square feet with three units. what we're showing today is a singular unit, which supervisor a tad under 3,200 square feet. it may be a good space for a restaurant. we've heard from the community what they would like to see there. we will leave it up to the individual entrepeneurs, but we've been encouraged to have independent grocery stores take a look at that site and we're committed to doing that. >> commissioner rosales: you took the words out of my mouth. [laughter] grocery is something that i would like to see more. i understand there are certain

parts of san francisco -- and that's why the asked about the amenities, whether from a food service and also food shopping amenity would be important. thank you. the last question i have is about the b.m.r. program. does it follow the -- >> it followings the housing participation policy and the b.m.r. would be marketed the same way that other project areas are. >> commissioner rosales: through a lottery system? >> yes. >> commissioner rosales: even they it's privately funded? >> yes. >> commissioner rosales: is there any -- i'm running into -- we don't have a neighborhood preference. i guess what i would be interested in hearing, and it doesn't have to be today, but is there any manner to not only

incentivi incentivize, but ensure that eligible folks from the community are able to have access on a priority basis? >> someone from housing can speak to that. jeff white from housing. >> commissioner rosales: thank you. >> good afternoon. jeff white, housing program manager. like laura was saying, we'll have a marketing plan requirement, like we normally do, early outreach. and we'll do a lot of outreach for certificate of preference holde holders. like you said, we don't have a neighborhood preference. so if they're from the neighborhood, they will have first crack at the unit. >> commissioner rosales: and if they're not c.o.p. holders, the outreach -- we would hope that the outreach would be clear enough for folks to be

incentivized to apply. >> that's right. >> i have one more question. you are following the sequence of the preferences, right, like c.o.p. holders and all of that? >> that's right. >> so this applies. >> yes. >> okay. wanted to verify that the preferences apply, except that we don't have the neighborhood preference. >> these act like inclusionary units in any of the areas. >> thank you. >> commissioner singh: what is the completion date? >> chair mondejar: saving that for laura to respond. or ms. barker. >> i think what we would say at this point is assuming that the project is approved by this body today, we would hope to get a

shovel in the ground sometime next year, as soon as we can get through the process. we're estimating that this is approximately an 18- to 24-month construction period. so within 18 to 24 months once we begin. >> commissioner singh: thank you. >> chair mondejar: thank you. a couple of questions for ms. shipley. the amenities, it would be nice to get a map of the area where the amenities are, if there's a bank, if there's a -- you know, supermarket, drugstore, or -- it just gives us a more holistic view of where the property is and what's available. and then the other piece -- this is right in front of the t line, right? >> yes. it's on third street, which does have a lot of ground floor

retail. there's a small shopping center a few blocks north. >> chair mondejar: and a bus stop? >> yes, two bus stops. there are several drugstores. i believe there's a walgreens. so there is retail. i don't know if there's a large grocery store in the neighborhood. >> chair mondejar: it would be nice to get a map with all of the amenities, so you get a picture of the community is like. >> and we can update the package to include that. >> chair mondejar: wonderful. and my other question is for the developer. i wanted to understand the car lifts. so you have -- from the photos, there are three car spaces across. >> yeah. they're stackers. and i think they go even partially under ground. >> no. these are above-ground stackers.

>> chair mondejar: is it self-operation al by the parker? >> yes. it's self-operated. you drive into an empty space and there are three levels. three levels vertically and two deep. one space is always open, where you drive in. and you press your button and it routes your car. >> chair mondejar: you press a button, an empty space comes down or you wait for the others to come down and you park into the open space. >> you do -- actually, sorry. it does go underground. and it lifts it up and you can drive forward. >> chair mondejar: how do you

get out? i'm trying to imagine. [laughter] maybe this is a too-early question. how do you get out? >> there is one dedicated empty space. you drive in and you go around and around and then when you are ready to have your car to pick up, you press a button where you parked. so there is always one empty space. you drive into the empty space and you get out in the empty space. >> chair mondejar: and then you press it and it goes around. >> it goes to an empty spot to park. >> chair mondejar: my experience is the car lifts in new york, where you don't know where to go or how to get out. >> this is a simpler system. it's a german system. >> chair mondejar: okay. thank you. just wanted more education on how the car