guess the ambulance was there, and it seems like i counted over 30 officers. there was quite a lot -- a large presence of officers for that particular incident, so i'm just wondering why it was so dramatic and it was so large. and the other thing is the newspaper reports that it's under investigation, and i just want today get some clarity, like, who's investigating it. >> let me start with your first question. in terms of the amount of officers that were there, commissioner, there was -- i don't know which video you saw, but there was a -- a crowd that surrounded the officers, basically, and there were some very greattiaggressive threats violence against the officers, so the officers put out a call for assistance and that's what brought that number of officers there. your second question, in terms of -- this might be your third

question, in terms of investigation, of course we are conducting and conducted a use of force investigation at the scene. i don't know whether or not director henderson's agency is conducting the investigation, but definitely, we are internally. >> and you -- internally. >> sfpd. there's no internal affairs investigation at this point. the first order of business is the use of force, and to get that through the process and a captain or commanding officer of that district will make a determination as to whether -- >> that's good. and maybe you can clarify for the public. when you say "we," the use of force, who will do the initial review? >> the initial review, there's a supervisor on scene, and that's the first step. that supervisor comes to the scene and does an initial investigation at scene, a use -- a report is taken and was taken in this incident. the incident report to document everything that happened, including the use of force.

that goes through several levels of review, and that's where it will be -- will be determined whether or not the officer's actions were appropriate in terms of the use of force. from there -- at this point, there's no internal affairs investigation, so that's the internal process. and once we determine what we have in terms of that use of force investigation, we'll take the appropriate steps there. >> and will that internal investigation include a review of the video cam? it did -- is that part of it? i missed that. i was writing. >> yeah, i reported it before you came in. all the officers that arrived had their body cameras on and they did activate them. >> i was going to ask you if they had any problems activating or not activating. and the last question, was the juvenile released from the hospital? >> she was released short there after. >> okay. thank you. >> please call the next line item. >> item 3-c, commission reports, commission president's

reports, commissioners reports. >> we have a lot happening since our last meeting, and even though we haven't met, several of the commissioners, all of the commissioners have been extremely busy. we have met two meetings with hillard hines with two d.o.j. recommendations. they are working with us on facilitating the changing of d.g.o.s and changing of some of our rules and procedures. we've met with the state department of justice who once the m.o.u. is signed will be providing some oversight to the reforms in place of the usdoj. in addition to that, commissioner hirsch, myself, and commissioner hamasaki, really, a great experience. we actually attended an

abbreviated version of the san francisco police department's implicit bias training. as attorneys, we go through training all the time, and sometimes we go in there reluctantly, but this was incredible. it was really well done by the police department, it was eye opening. the catchall in terms of the officers, that implicit bias can lead to officers' safety concerns, and that catches their attention. it was incredible. it was really well done. i'll let the commissioners talk about their experience, but it was really great, and we're doing it for all the officers. it's part of what we're doing with this 21st century policing. in addition to that we've been working on the building 606 issue. also during this period of time, we are going to lose our assistant and legislative

assistant rania adwan. we're doing research to find out how to hold her here. i was to thank her -- please come forward. [applause] >> please come forward. i've been warned yet again, i just didn't listen. ran rania's been great in working to us in getting reform from the mayor's office. she's been in consulting in her entire career. this was her first time in the public sector. she's done a great job. she's been available to us 24-7. her work has been invaluable to the commission, members of the public, police commission. you were a good friend to our

former president, julius turman through tough times. you took good care of him, and i want to thank you for that. you've been an awesome assistant, we really don't want you to go, so feel free to change your mind. i want to thank you, and there'll be more later, but i want to turn this over to the other commissioners. commissioner elias. >> yes. i'm very sad to see miss rania leave. i hope it wasn't because john and i scared her away. so if you do change your mind, please stay. >> commissioner dejesus? >> right. people don't know we have wonderful, wonderful people behind us who do all the hard work, including the city attorney. rania tackles a lot of these -- the use of force, a lot of policy. she's worked on a lot of policy. she's worked on the d.o.j. reforms, she's rounded all of us up, which is hard to do, and

assigned us all different tasks. she's been great, and she has a way of taking really complicated material and reducing it so they're edible bites, which really helps us, especially in meetings. it's going to be like having our right arm cutoff, we're going to miss you, but i want you to know you have contributed here, and you have successfully worked the department and found your way around that department, and we're going to miss that. that's going to be hard to train someone else if we can get someone else, so thank you. >> commissioner hamasaki. >> and policy analyst radhawan, i just want to say thank you. you have made my entry in joining the commission smooth and helped guide me through a lot of the complex issues that we deal with every day, and so i'm grateful to you for your

service, wish you weren't leaving, and wanted to extend the welcome to always come back for public comments and get up and share your feelings of the day. >> as long as i get three minutes. i want my three minutes, but i do want to say thank you so much. >> oh, there's some more people that want to talk to you. director henderson. >> yeah, i was just warming up here. so i just want to say i've known rania since she was a fellow before she even came to and through the office at the mayor's office when i was at the mayor's office, and so working with her over this past year, especially in my transition to the agency has been invaluable, and her contributions, not just to the work that's being done at d.p.a. but her contributions to the mayor's office and her work with this commission specifically with the close support that she provided to julius and the rest of the

commission during complicated at best events, including d.o.j. roll out, has been invaluable. it seems almost surreal to me that we are having this conversation. i'm not sure if this is a salary negotiation that we're doing here, but i -- i would say that if there is a possibility to keep rania here with us, i will say that there's candy up here if that will make any difference for you to stay, under whatever circumstances, but i do want to acknowledge what a meaningful contribution your work has been to all of our lives and all of this work. we are a better city, we are a safer city because of the work that you've contributed to us over the years, and we are very sorry to see you go. and at the very least, you should extend it at least six months. >> commissioner hirsch? >> i guess i'm the only one that's glad you're leaving.

no, i'm kidding. you've been really terrific, and i have your phone number, so i'll still be able to reach out to you. >> you will. >> and you'll have no one to bill, but we'll still seek your advice. you've been really terrific, and i want to thank you publicly. >> again, as a policy analyst, you've been very helpful to us. and i know there's folks in england waiting for you, and i know that's very important, but -- oh, chief scott would like to talk to you. >> thank you. i know i told you this in person, when i first arrived on scene, you were doing two jobs. i know how difficult that must have been, but thank you for all the work. i know as director henderson said, sometimes you had to be the mediator in these very

intense discussions about policy and whatnot, but you've done a good job, and we thank you for all the work that you've done. we have a lot of members of the police department in here, and we thank you for everything. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> can i say now? >> yes. >> no, but it really has been a tremendous honor. i mean, this is really hard, and to the members of the public that keep coming, a true example to

see the 28 cadets but also their families, their proud parents and siblings there to support them, and to see the youth experience with respect to how they view the police officer, i know that chief scott has partaked in engaging the youth with the san francisco police department to sort of bridge the gap with the youth and sort of the police officers, and i thought this was an excellent way to do that, and it was really, really a great experience and i would encourage the others to attend the graduation.

i'm not sure when they're going to have another cadet graduation with the youth. i think chief scott may have more information on that. >> we haven't scheduled another community youth announcement yet, but it was a great event, and a lot of the youth got a lot out of it, so thank you for coming. >> yes. in addition to that, commissioner hamasaki and i attended the tenderloin community meeting and listened to their concerns as they raised them with the captain of the tenderloin station and his command staff. a lot of the concerns that they were raising were surrounded around the fact that there was -- they felt, a lot of police presence in terms of foot patrol in certain areas of the tenderloin, and they were

requesting that the captain make more of a police presence on the northern side of market, not just market street, where a lot of the sort of foot patrol is present, so that was very interesting. another interesting interesting event that commissioner hamasaki and i attended was the tenderloin police commission lineup. it was the day shift -- the day shift? >> swing shift. >> swing shift. >> swing shift, swing shift lineup that we were able to attend and meet some of the officers at the tenderloin station. it was very informative for myself and commissioner hamasaki with respect to the concerns that the officers are facing. and one of the concerns that they sort of mentioned was the fact that there was a lack of narcan kits available to them.

it's my understanding that they're only -- the narcan kits are currently in the trauma-first aid kits which are located in each vehicle, and there are approximately 15 vehicles there in the tenderloin station, and some of the officers had concerns as to the availability of the narcan for people who did not have a vehicle but were doing foot patrol and/or on bikes. and so they raised that concern, and we were currently in the process of trying to remedy that situation so we d did -- can make the narcan kits available to the officers more readily because we all know, especially in that part of town, sometimes vehicle traffic is so horrendous that the only way to get to scenes and sometimes, officers, when they arrive on scene, they're on foot and/or on bike, and so we want to make sure that these narcan kits are available to them because as we know in terms of the opioid crisis that's currently happening, sometimes moments and seconds

are vital between life and death, and so we want to make sure that the officers have the tools they need to make sure that they can save a life when necessary. >> thank you. commissioner hamasaki? >> thank you, commissioner mazzucco. just to follow up, in both of the experiences that commissioner elias discussed were very informative to me as a new commissioner. on the narcan issue, it essentially gives the officers an ability to save a life and do so, you know, in seconds. and one of the officers actually described surface tha

may cause us to act or make mistakes or make judgments in a way that we don't want any of us to do and we don't want our officers to do, so i think it's a wonderful program. i also wanted to mention that i visited with the japantown task force, which is made up of merchants and leaders in the japantown community and had a chance to meet with them about their concerns in the japantown and fillmore area. they had a lot of wonderful things to say about the department but also some of the challenges that exist out there, and it was a real pleasure and an honor for me to go out there and hear from the leaders of that community. so it's been a busy month, even though we haven't been in meetings. >> thank you, commissioner

hamasaki? anything further? please call the next line item. we're not done yet, magic. >> item 3-d, commission

they tried to do one afterward, and they were chased by the police, and the chase was called off. two days in a row, i walked down post street, and the same people who i see with the hypodermic needles in the morning, i saw them running out of the north face store with a bunch of jackets, no cops, no police, no nothing. i'm a little concerned, we have a lot of people with specialty details, you see a lot of police officers on twitter. i'd like to see more police officers on the beat, more feet on the ground, so if we can get an idea of what's happening on that front, that would be great. commissioner hirsch? yeah, i know last week. i think the commissioners all received the latest 96-a report, and i'm just wondering

if we can get that calendared for discussion sometime in the next meeting or two. we typically do discuss it publicly, and i think it's worthwhile. it's the data. it's the arrest data -- it's a comprehensive report. it's -- yeah, it's interesting. >> yeah. thank you. commissioner dejesus. >> so i talked about this before, the wealth and disparities in the black community, justice for mario woods would like to present their statistics analysis to the police commission on racially disparate sfpd use of force. they've had these numbers that they've wanted to talk to us for a while about, so i'm wondering if i can give everybody a heads up that that is coming. and then, there's also the sunshine task force sent us all a letter a while back, and that letter basically said that our

vote violated the sunshine ordinance, and we discussed that letter. i really think we should put it on the agenda and at least discuss the letter and whether we're going to comply or not. i know if we're going to, it's voluntary compliance, but i think we should at least address that. i keep getting contacted about what we're doing, and i think we should stop being silent and put it forward and discuss it. >> we should wait obviously until we have a full commission, too, so hopefully, that'll happen in the month of september, but thank you for that, and i think we'll hear a little bit about that during public comment. anything further? >> clerk: public comment on items 3-a through 3-d. >> good evening, magic. >> good evening. so i would request that you return our time to three minutes. the whole report powerpoint was deleted. you know full well that i was

coming as a prepared item on the tasers, and i there's implicit bias against what i'm going to say but you cutting it down to -- by you cutting it down to two minutes. i don't think it's fair. i took time to prepare. even rania asked to have her three minutes, and i would ask in honor of her. it's not fair, it's arbitrary, and i don't think it's fair. >> i've already announced that. you have a minute 26 to go. >> okay. first of all, i'd like to say spitting can hardly be considered harm to an officer as she was slammed into the body of a police car and her body went limp. i am appalled. where is the use of force training? obviously this child has deep problems and psychological

difficulty. we're supposed to help children, not throw them against the car. it's appalling. it's absolutely appalling that this can happen in our community, and we want an investigation outside of the police department to get something done here so this never, ever happens to a child in our community again. >> thank you. good evening, mr. harts. long time no see. >> did you miss me? i have to tell you, i'm extremely interested in the d.p.a., particularly as it indicates to reporting requirements between this commission and the sfpd, going forward, i would like to see if there's any real accountability, something that the public can see besides dry numbers. i have regularly attended meetings of the ethics

commission and after ten years of attendance don't know of a single thing they have done to improve the ethics of this city government. they shuffle papers, kill huge number of trees and only manage to shuffle events. i've likened it to shuffling deck chairs on the titanic. they have no enforcement power and can only recommend that the offending parties take action against themselves. it's ridiculous. will the p.d.a. actually achieve any level of account ability? that's the open question. and to finish out, i'd like to talk about page seven of the annual report where it talks about mediation. under the old o.c.c., i brought this up a couple times and was told by members of the police commission i was wrong until

the last o.c.c. commissioner said no, mr. harts is right. the way i understand the mediation process is if i as a citizen file a complaint and agree to mediation, if they setup a mediation appointment, and i show up, and the officer doesn't my case is dismissed. that's the end of the case. it's closed. well, that's the way it was under the o.c.c., and i have the documents at home. i'll bring them the next time because the previous o.c.c. director said yes, that's the instance. 'cause i filed a complaint and they asked me aif i wanted to mediate, and i said you must be out of your head. [please stand by]

>> police are engaged in treason and the fact that the police themselves are unlawful. they go against the constitution. the constitution of the united states, which is the supreme law of the land was based on the virginia constitution and the declaration of rights, and article section 113 states a well regulated militia composed of the body of people turning to arms is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state that's standing army which is would be the police n times of peace should be avoided as dangerous to liberty. in all cases the military should

be under strict subordination to and governed by the central powers. some people were concerned about tazeers and the police with taser, but i am here to say the police are unlawful and the only lawful action the police can take is to stand down. whenever i am come up here, i am giving the stand down orders. the constitution of california says the united states constitution is the supreme law of the land. it says standing armies should be prohibited. this violates article one, section 8 of the u.s. constitution which says that congress can only designate gait funds for up to two years for any standing army. the police are acting in contradiction to the law. ironically what is called law enforcement is in complete violation of the law, and the militia, which is when properly formed, the entire body of the body trained to arms is the only

legitimate and lawful law enforcement body of the united states. the police are engaged in treason by protecting and abating the american people. sfpd were protected barak and anyone who knows about geopolitics know that israel and the united states carried out the 9/11 attacks against the american people. off thank you. your time is up. next speaker. hey, clyde. welcome back. >> thank you, thomas jefferson. okay. i have been assigned by mayor breed to be the poop patrol. it's a tough job. it's unpaid. okay, mayor breed. i voted for you and campaigned for you. first of all, i remember when you couldn't -- >> keep it good, clyde.

>> i remember that. remember that? >> i can't find a job, clyde. i can't find a home. god bless you. found one. she's got 1.47 million last year and does he shovel [bleep]? >> and address the entire panel. >> let's go more topic. let's talk about the texting incident. we have nine police officers involved in a racist texting. what is there status? they say, sure, i'm going to fire them. well, you broke the one-year law. and if you can't bring trial against me in more than one year, i'm done. i'm clear. the court overruled that. wait a minute, you can't have those options. where are they? where are they, commissioners? have they been in front of this commission or are they still

drawing a paycheck? where are they? where are they, police commission? i can look up and i can go up to the office and tell you everyone on payroll. and might come up with real weird names. you're bad. >> thank you, clyde. >> next speaker. welcome back. >> ray heart, san francisco government. and i am the director of the san francisco open government and can be contacted at sfopengovernment bs@ait comecast.net. tonight i would like to talk about the agenda which makes it clear that the police commission does not want public input. it puts general public comment as far down the agenda as it is possible. if a member wishes to speak to you about anything not on the agenda as a separate item, they have to come here and sit for an

indeterminant period to whittle down public comment through attrition. it serves the additional purpose of insuring that the nice people have already participated and gone home. after all, we wouldn't want the nice people to hear things you don't want them to hear. going to a comment someone made earlier, it is really indicative and andrew carnegie said i have stopped in old age listening to what people say and watching what they do. you control 95% of the meeting and where do you make a cut to go into closed session? you cut the public comment's time down by a minute. that is a very clear signal to what you think of public comment. we'll get to it when we get to it, and if you want to comment, come and sit for an hour, two hour, three hours. when we get to it, you can get up and say something.

when you have the cut to cut down on your own verbose and you take the public and say we're going to take your time away from you. the sunshine ordinance and up to three minutes says i don't have to talk for three minutes if i want to talk for one or two. and that's fine. instead, up to three minutes. and that is our choice, not yours. >> thank you. >> welcome back. >> the sunshine force voted that tasers were in violation of the brown act as they were denied entrance into their own meeting. we were taught to believe if we participate in this so-called democracy through the channels created by law t public servant wills do their job to uphold our rights. i spent six months gathering

evidence and witnesses to prove that our rights were violated. i sent the information of the decision to all of you. and no response. i spoke at the meetings to ask you to deliberate. and i appreciate you said you will put this on the agenda, but i want this to be done as soon as possible. apparently this commission does not show yet that this recognize the control from the instruments declared in the brown act. apparently many felt political expediency was important and risking political careers would out in be what anyone wanted to do here. this law was created in 1993 to protect us. we led the country in creating this public support for our work. promises in h with an example of your policies and your rights

being upheld, you should show the same respect because you are not legally forced to do something, but ethically obliged. i am not asking you to vote again on tasers. we need you to rescind the vote and get back to the business of enacting the 271 other recommendations. and the killings and the abuse by so-called peace officers. do you not hear the call for each of us to do everything in our power to stop the mad snns the time now is to push back on every front. put this on the agenda, vote to rescind, and give back to the business at hand. >> thank you, ma'am. any further public comment? mr. brown? good evening, mr. brown. >> i would like to use the

overhead as usual. again, i am bringing up my son. he was murdered august 14. yesterday was the day of his murder, and we had media coverage, and also, i want to thank the media, police department media relations unit for putting up this flyer and helping me every year with my son's case. and bringing awareness to the unsolved homicides including my son's, so thank you for that. i also want to say i spoke with the former sheriff and

supervisor of district 5. and he couldn't show up, but he sent me a text message to say he is appalled about the $250,000 reward that i have. and nine other cases that also got a reward, and none of them has been solved. and he said not even the f.b.i.'s most wanted and other high cases have gotten these rewards. and so he's really worried about how the cases are being -- i didn't read it all what he said, and still, my daughter and myself are grieving over my son's case. we still don't have a venue.

i have to climb up on a pole as you see on the news and hang the flyers up, not every year, every day. we have no venue and i have been asking for that for the last 11, 12 years. >> thank you, mrs. brown. anymore public comment? hearing none, public comment is none. public comment is closed. ms. brown comes in hopes of gaining attention for the murder of her son who was a graduate of st. dominick's grammar school and about to graduate from high school and ms. brown went and received his diploma. he was a great kid. and one of the things we hear the d.o.j. recommendations about what the police should do, what the police should do, what the police should do, but the community is a big part of that equation. and nobody has the courage and conviction to come forward. that tells you a little bit about the fear out there being a former prosecutor and a gang

prosecutor, $250,000 won't get somebody to come forward and help solve the murder of this young man. and in other murders. it's not enough money. so the community has to make a decision whether or not they're going to work with law enforcement to solve this murder and give ms. brown some closure. if anybody has any information, i know ms. brown usually gives the names of the perpetrators that are involved. one i actually participate in sending to federal prison for a while, but he's back out. one is dead, no surprise. and the tip line is 415-575-4444. thank you, ms. brown. please call the next line item. >> i have a comment or a question. >> sure. commissioner hirsch. >> commissioner: can the director anderson comment about mediation and how mediation is functioning right now in a couple of sentences? >> sure. just in reference to the comment before that that is not how

mediation works and if the officer chooses to not participate and that case is not prosecuted and that case is dismissed. that is -- i have never seen that rule in the past when the agency was the o.c.c., but that is absolutely not the rule now in terms of how the case goes. the cases move forward through mediation. how mediation works is cases are resolved independent of the actual prosecution and sustained cases for transgressions, but the new rule in mediation now is moving into a different direction is expand how more case cans fit in to and through the mediation model. and to start training the mediators for a standard of

behavior for d.p. a. and mediation that i was going to make a report on but after the conference takes place which is next tuesday. i want to expand how cases go through mediation itself and the mediation is one of the highest rated services. it has almost a 90% approval rating for the people that participate in mediation. often times cases are resolved with apologies or with sitting down and with community groups or individuals that just need to know why things happen the way they happened. and a better understanding of how the police department understands and operates specifically in terms of how it works in built back up with the disconduct and what is going on and why things go on when they see things they don't understand. is that story behind that?

has something happened or occurred that i didn't know about that might explain behavior i saw or was involved in with the police. >> when you revisit this and make a report, i would like to know and the public should know, what happens when an officer doesn't appear? >> i don't need the answer now. >> i can answer it now. >> the case proceeds and we conduct the investigation and assessment for evaluation for a case being sustained or not. >> you can't force somebody to mediate, but still investigate. >> absolutely. it's going to be investigated anyway. the mediation is an alternative when all the parties agree to participate in the mediation. if either side is not agreeing to the mediation t case proceeds as a full investigation towards sustaining a case. >> thanks. >> thank you. >> item 6, public comment on all matters pertaining to item 8 below, closed session, including

public comment on vote whether to hold item 8 in closed session. >> an any public comment rarting our closed session? hearing none, public comment is now closed. call the next line. strike that. sergeant stockwell? >> well, this is public comment about us going into closed session. >> i'm sorry? >> this is public comment about us going into closed session. >> right. about closed session. >> we will discuss that in closed session. >> public comment after the closed session? >> you go out in. sergeant stockwell, go ahead. retired sergeant. >> an i am a plaintiff in the case of stockwell versus the city and county of san francisco. first and foremost, i would like to advise the commission that the city attorney representing the city and county of san francisco does not have a signed settlement agreement contract from the 29 plaintiffs in this case. the settlement agreement contract was never executed.

as a result of the many of the 29 plaintiffs refusing to sign the settlement agreement, our own attorneys have filed a motion to withdraw as counsel in this case claiming a conflict of interest. that will probably be granted at a hearing in superior court this friday. after the motion is granted, plaintiffs in this case intend to seek new representation and proceed with this lawsuit. thank you for your time. i am glad i didn't take more than two minutes. >> thank you, juanita. god to see you. mr. hart? >> again, ray hart, open government. i have been doing this open government business for a decade now. i have 36 orders of determination from the sunshine ordinance task force finding various city elected official, boards, and commissions, etc., guilty of either withholding public records or interfering with public comment. and so i know whereof i speak. these closed sessions are always

done in a way that i just don't buy it. i understand that there is necessity to have privacy for certain things like personnel matters and others, but at the end, what it always comes down to is are we going to disclose anything at all? and the answer is always no. it doesn't matter whether it's the ethics commission or this body or any other body in this city. if they go into closed session, they always come back and there is absolutely nothing they tell the public. that's not open government. are re-asking you to tell most or all of what happened? no. but to say reasonably that five or six people can go into a room for hours at a time and come out and then vote and say absolutely and. and sf open government bs.

i have 36 orders of determination and that proves as a matter of fact these are not just claims i i make. these are cases that went before the task force and these officials are found to have either withheld public records or interfered with public comment. and the thing that i can't understand about it more than anything else is every single member takes a vote to defend the united states constitution of america against all enemies, foreign and domestic. >> any other public comment? hearing none, public comment is now closed. call the next line item. >> item 7, vote on whether to hold item 8 in closed session including on whether to i a sert the attorney-client privilege with regard to 8a, 8b, 8c, san

francisco administrative code 67.10, action. >> a motion to move into closed session. >> so moved. >> just to clarify. item 8c is off calendar. >> that is correct. >> so moved. >> do i have a second? >> yes. >> an all in favor? >> t >> commissioners, do i have a motion with -- >> this is item nine, vote to disclose any or all information held in closed session, san francisco code 67.12 action. >> do i have a motion for nondisclosure. >> so moved. >> okay. second? all in favor? [voting] >> item ten, adjournment, action item. >> do i have a motion. >> so moved. >> second?

>> second. >> okay. all in favor? [voting] >> okay. thank you very much, everybody.

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business registration. >> i'm michael cirocco and the owner of an area bakery. ♪ the bakery started in 191. my grandfather came over from italy and opened it up then. it is a small operation. it's not big. so everything is kind of quality that way. so i see every piece and cut every piece that comes in and out of that oven. >> i'm leslie cirocco-mitchell, a fourth generation baker here with my family. ♪ so we get up pretty early in the morning. i usually start baking around 5:00. and then you just start doing rounds of dough. loaves. >> my mom and sister basically

handle the front and then i have my nephew james helps and then my two daughters and my wife come in and we actually do the baking. after that, my mom and my sister stay and sell the product, retail it. ♪ you know, i don't really think about it. but then when i -- sometimes when i go places and i look and see places put up, oh this is our 50th anniversary and everything and we've been over 100 and that is when it kind of hits me. you know, that geez, we've been here a long time. [applause] ♪ >> a lot of people might ask why our legacy business is important. we all have our own stories to tell about our ancestry. our lineage and i'll use one example of tommy's joint. tommy's joint is a place that my husband went to as a child

and he's a fourth generation san franciscan. it's a place we can still go to today with our children or grandchildren and share the stories of what was san francisco like back in the 1950s. >> i'm the general manager at tommy's joint. people mostly recognize tommy's joint for its murals on the outside of the building. very bright blue. you drive down and see what it is. they know the building. tommy's is a san francisco hoffa, which is a german-style presenting food. we have five different carved meats and we carve it by hand at the station. you prefer it to be carved whether you like your brisket fatty or want it lean. you want your pastrami to be

very lean. you can say i want that piece of corn beef and want it cut, you know, very thick and i want it with some sauerkraut. tell the guys how you want to prepare it and they will do it right in front of you. san francisco's a place that's changing restaurants, except for tommy's joint. tommy's joint has been the same since it opened and that is important. san francisco in general that we don't lose a grip of what san francisco's came from. tommy's is a place that you'll always recognize whenever you lock in the door. you'll see the same staff, the same bartender and have the same meal and that is great. that's important. ♪

>> the service that san francisco heritage offers to the legacy businesses is to help them with that application process, to make sure that they really recognize about them what it is that makes them so special here in san francisco. ♪ so we'll help them with that application process if, in fact, the board of supervisors does recognize them as a legacy business, then that does entitle them to certain financial benefits from the city of san francisco. but i say really, more importantly, it really brings them public recognition that this is a business in san francisco that has history and that is unique to san francisco. >> it started in june of 1953. ♪

and we make everything from scratch. everything. we started a you -- we started a off with 12 flavors and mango fruits from the philippines and then started trying them one by one and the family had a whole new clientele. the business really boomed after that. >> i think that the flavors we make reflect the diversity of san francisco. we were really surprised about the legacy project but we were thrilled to be a part of it. businesses come and go in the city. pretty tough for businesss to stay here because it is so expensive and there's so much competition. so for us who have been here all these years and still be popular and to be recognized by the city has been really a huge

honor. >> we got a phone call from a woman who was 91 and she wanted to know if the mitchells still owned it and she was so happy that we were still involved, still the owners. she was our customer in 1953. and she still comes in. but she was just making sure that we were still around and it just makes us feel, you know, very proud that we're carrying on our father's legacy. and that we mean so much to so many people. ♪ >> it provides a perspective. and i think if you only looked at it in the here and now, you're missing the context. for me, legacy businesses, legacy bars and restaurants are really about setting the context for how we come to be where we are today. >> i just think it's part of

san francisco. people like to see familiar stuff. at least i know i do. >> in the 1950s, you could see a picture of tommy's joint and looks exactly the same. we haven't change add thing. >> i remember one lady saying, you know, i've been eating this ice cream since before i was born. and i thought, wow! we have, too. ♪ood evening everyone.

thank you for joining the regular board meeting of the board of education. today is tuesday, august 28th. i am now calling this meeting to order. can i get rollcall, please? thank you. [roll call] >> thank you