ingleside police station is in my district. it is one of the police districts that is used for new cadets. we're constantly about 20 to 30 officers under staffed, based on where things are. i know that mayor breed has made a push in her budget this most recent year to increase the number of officers, but every time that's increased, you have atrition and retirement, so how will you approach that while at the same time thinking about community engagement, community balancing and thinking about those desires. >> yeah. i think you hit the nail on the head. it's being able to juggle and balance all of those insultly. when we understand there's going to be atrition.

i think it also has to start, supervisor safai, with officers that we currently have now. how are we building that model system now with some of the officers that we do have around this training with biasies? it's working with individuals that we have now, knowing that we're going to have some atrition, but also knowing that we're going to have 250, over the course of the next four years, coming on-line. >> supervisor safai: okay. great. i don't have any additional questions right now. we'll give miss taylor the opportunity to come up and be questioned. if we have additional questions, we'll have you come back up.

>> thank you. >> supervisor safai: supervisor yee, do you have additional questions? >> supervisor yee: hi, miss taylor. >> good afternoon. i think it's still that. >> i'll just start off with my first general question, which is the role of the police commission in terms of how, you know, did you transform the police department? what is your role in trying to move things? and it's including d.o.j. reform recommendations and forth? thank you, supervisor yee. it's an important question, and i think it goes back to at the end of the day, how are we policing? how we see ourselves at the department, and that is he everything in my opinion. are we warriors or guardians, and the role of the police in my opinion is to be guardians

of the public, including forward gans guardians of the public trust. so that should be the model that guides everything the department does, and it certainly would guide me if i were lucky enough to be appointed to the commission, so that includes more community involvement, more community engagement. we talk about community policing, and there are liaisons that are very good about engaging with the community. but as i'm sure you all know from the folks in your districts, that should go all the way top down, all the way throughout the organization. so we need beat officers who know the citizens in the districts they serve in a way that's personal, in a way that's meaningful, in a way that means you don't just interact with the cops when something bad happens. you interact with the cops on a daily basis, and that should be a part of the job. i think that will go a long way

in regaining public trust. the public in all areas, they should know who their local officers are, and their local officers should know them. that kind of personal interaction, that should be a focus for the department. i think it is in some ways, but we have a long ways to go because the trust has been electriced. in terms of -- fracktured. >> supervisor yee: and then, more specifically, i asked d.j., the question of racism within the police department. how would you push to rectify that situation? >> yeah. there are -- there are a number of things that were very troubling to me about the d.o.j. report, and -- you know, for example, the idea that african americans are pulled over disproportionately and

searched disproportionately, but less contraband is found, that that's a problem. part of solving the problem is recognizing that you have one, so i know we talked about a little bit in terms of bias training and how important it is. i myself had implicit bias training when i was at the u.s. important's office. i think there's kind of an instinct wal reaction because no one believes that they're racism, no one wants to be labeled racist, but i think we need to get comfortable with the idea that everyone has bases. we all have biases, we're all inundated with the same media. the question is whether or not we have biases, it's what do we do with them? it's kind of the awareness and the department that's leading the charge with that awarsness. that gives us power because once you know what the problem

is, you can fix it. it's a complicated and multifacilitied problem, but -- facetted problem, but i think it's that kind of thing that will go a long way i think in restoring the public trust. >> supervisor yee: and it seems like in the past, when specific incidents happened around racist activity with the police department, nothing happens. how would you would you as a commissioner sort of kboimposed say well, shouldn't there be some disciplinary action taken when we find a particular police officer's indicating that they're doing racist things in. >> it's hard to talk about a specific factual scenario, but

that's a problem. and so you know i'm a woman of color myself, and so i certainly -- i take that very seriously. so, you know, depending on the factual scenario, there is no way we should be rubber stamping that. so i would certainly say we should take the issue seriously. i would certainly take it seriously, and a big part of what we need to do to restore a trust is for the police department to be out front, showing this initiative is important to them. >> supervisor yee: well, i think that part of it is also the department of self-help line clearly what happened -- some of these activities are taking place, and i'm not too sure if we have that.

in the last few months, we've had cases at the board of supervisors where one is sexually assaulted or harassed. and many of the victims have testified in our hearings, stated that they felt they were victims a second time and when they go through the process of trying to report. how would you help improve that situation within the police department? >> this is an issue that's near and dear to my heart. as a prosecutor, i tried to help many victims of sexual assault and violence, and it's -- it's terrible because i think it takes a certain amount

of bravery to call the police in the first place, and that's a terrifying thing to do. so what it is that responds and -- who it is that responds and how they respond can make all the difference in the world for the person who's suffered traumatic, traumatic circumstances and also is dealing with, you know, all of the mental toll that that takes. that certainly was one of my priorities as a prosecutor. it's a priority for me as a woman, as someone who handled those cases. the most important thing we can do as -- you know, as a police department is manage and show compassion in the way that we interact with people across the board. and certainly, certainly, when you talk about people who are victims of sexual violence who often have trouble responding. so who that first responder and

how they show compassion is everything, everything. certainly, with respect to a woman who suffers sexual violence, but members of our lgbtq community, members of our transgender community who have such difficulty reporting. how people respond is everything. you could literally change somebody's life in how you support and respond to them when they've suffered that kind of trauma. >> supervisor yee: when we recognize that racism was an issue, we started implementing the training for implicit bias. would you push for training on sensitivity on how you handle these cases? >> absolutely. >> i don't think it's happening, and that, i think is really necessary, and this has to come from the commission.

>> absolutely. absolutely. >> supervisor yee: and the question about how do we get more of our san francisco resident young people to be interested in becoming a police officer and can you sort of -- how would you approach that? >> you know, something else that's dear to my heart. a lot of times when i talk to students, i talk to students about being a prosecutor. if you want to change the criminal system, be a prosecutor. prosecutors should look like members of the community. it should be as diverse as the community standing before you and many people in this room. it breaks my heart when people don't want to be prosecutors or police officers, so there's no easy answer, and the only way we regain public trust is to be examples and to be models. so we have to make that -- as

officers, we have to be people that are admirable, because they'll know cops who are admirable. police officers should be heros for our little boys and girls. so i don't have a quick fail-safe solution, but i think if we model what we want, i think over time, we will have more young people who will want to be officers. >> supervisor yee: i'm just going to say that both of you did not touch upon that one way is to support police cadet programs, but there's also other pathways, you know, and starting in high school. i remember when it was -- i

could barely remember when i was younger, but it was very nondiverse in terms of the police department, and they started implementing the police cadet programs and started recruiting many of the young people in our communities, where they're -- whether they're from the black community or from the asian community or from the latino community, and we saw sort of an uptick. it's something that's disappeared for a while, and i'm hoping and pushing, and i'm hoping as commissioners, we push the same thing because i think that's one of the best ways to get home grown police officers. >> that's a great point. >> supervis [please stand by]

. >> supervisor yee: the -- the question about tasers, again, i know we've spoken about it, and for the public record, you know, what is your perspective of tasers? >> i mean, of course, it's a complicated and difficult question, and there are no easy answers. you know, the goal of everyone is or certainly should be to reduce the number of children that are killed. no one wants that, and so the question is how do we ensure that officers from the right training -- have the right training and the right accountabilities to decrease the one of kids on our streets that are killed? so you know, the d.o.j. recommend thad we look into

tasers, and there are -- recommended that we look into tasers. there are many officers that look into tasers because tasers are deadly weaponed to make sure that we don't have the fatal, unjustified incidebss o people being really hurt. i trust the analysis is thoughtful. i know that there are people who change their minds over time and that's part of a healthy discussion, healthy debate, healthy consideration, and so, you know, it's not really fair for me to prejudge or second get any issue without the benefit of that information. i trust their analysis, i rely on it and wouldn't make a

second investigation. if i were to be asked to do a similar analysis, i would really get as informed as the commission was when they voted. >> supervisor yee: that's it for now. >> supervisor safai: okay. great. supervisor stefani? >> supervisor stefani: thank you so much, supervisor safai. i think what you said, you know, as a prosecutor, you see police officers at their best and at their worst, and you know really interacting with them. we learn a lot about law enforcement and the criminal justice system, and of course that provides a unique perspective. one of the questions that i asked to d.j. was about the mental health officers. and what i wanted to ask you is obviously we have a situation in san francisco -- not just san francisco, it's automatic over the country of people that are suffering mental illness in

our states. it's left to the police officers to be the first responders, and it can be a very dangerous situation for the officers or for the individual that is acting out or for our police officers. and i think it's really important for us to take a hard look at that and ask some really tough questions about how do we want our officers to engage? what can we be doing better? because the problem's not going away tomorrow. i think we really need to be focused on it. i think it's something that we need to look into and work with the police department on. i just want to know your initial thoughts about what can we be doing better or how can we be sure that we're addressing the problem of the people whose lives may be in kriss and addressing problems of the police officers, as well.

>> first of all, i agree with your comments, just living in the city, we've all noticed over time, we've really reached a crisis point when it comes to some of the challenges that people are facing on the streets with -- with mental health problems. and so i think the good news is one of the things that i'm learning is that things are starting to get better, and by that, i mean that, you know, the police department is working harder, not only making sure that offers are trained, so making sure that all officers are trained in that kind of crisis intervention is very key. i also like the fact the idea that police should be first responders to people with mental health challenges is not really a great fit. so i think the police working

collaboratively with subject matter experts so people who know about behavioral health issues. you know, d.p.h. and glide and other nonprofit organizations so that what the police is doing is really facilitating. people getting access to the help and services that they need, which is the role that they should have in that position. i think they're taking the right steps to hopefully get us to where we need to be. >> supervisor stefani: the other thing we talked a lot about community building. i've been supervisor since january , i've had -- public safety is a huge issue in my district. in district two, a lot of people don't feel safe. we have the property crime epidemic. i've had three public safety forums and two public safety fairs. i think it's been really good because people are interacting with their captains and food

beat officers -- foot beat officers, and they get to know them. sz h how do you see getting the flis commission more involved with the community as well? >> i think not only am i open to learning that, i need to learn. it's such an important part of this role, so having -- you know, having police officers out in the community is obviously critical, but as a police commission, we need to know and understand the needs of the communities that you're serving, so you do that by going out and talking and interacting to folks at events. that's something that i look

forward to. >> supervisor safai: great. i just -- we -- a lot of the questions that i wanted to ask have been covered. you've heard a lot of statements that i've said about this being at the precipice. >> supervisor safai: think about how it will play a role in reform, and that's the issue of meet and confer and your experience in that. >> thank you. so san francisco has a long and noble history of being a town that supports the rights of workers, and as do i. there are lots of good rules here for good reason. i think we need to couple the

right to a meet and confer, that that process be important to that process with the need for both clarity and transparency in the community. i think how long things take currently are unacceptable. so taking a hard look at the procedures currently in place and bringing all stakeholders to the table is an important thing for the commission to do to move on. because every day even when the department is advancing reform, the community doesn't feel it because it feels as though things are meyered in bureau -- mired in democracy. you can imagine for community members trying to figure out where we are in terms of reform, it seems as if something is happening, and it seems as everything is mired and bogged down in democracy. i think one thing to do is

bring all stakeholders to the table to clearly define all the issues that get sent to meet and confer. i'm someone with a law degree and it's hard for me to try to figure it out as an outsider. if it's a little sentence in the d.g.o. or a department general order that is, you know, the subject of debate, then let's debate that and not t the entire d.g.o. i think that will be important in helping move things forward.

>> supervisor safai: -- can balance that out with the desires of moving reform forward in a respectful way in listening to all sides and all intended parties. we on the board of supervisors speak a lot about how the impacts of the things that we do in terms of policies that are affecting workers that are on the front lines. and because there is a lot of issues tied up with regard to the police department, sometimes we want to take a step back from engaging on those issues that pertain to

protecting the rights of workers, so it gets very complicated, and admittedly, it is difficult and it's not something easy. so that's why i think having your experience and understanding of that will be very helpful so that people aren't scared to engage on that particular topic. i would say another thick that's important to me is when you're -- thing that's important to me -- [please stand by]

. >> i think the more collaborative we are, the better we are as a city, so i like the fact that sfpd is working more with the department of public health and getting stakeholders really more involved and more at the table in terms of mental health crisis because we are at a crisis point in the city. so i think the more that we collaborate, the better we all are, and the more we serve the public as a city. >> supervisor safai: great. i don't have any additional questions right now. i think a lot were asked by my colleagues. any additional comments or concerns, supervisor yee? i'm going to ask the same thing of supervisor stefani. >> supervisor yee: no, no, i'm

ready. >> supervisor safai: to move forward? okay. supervisor stefani? move forward. >> supervisor yee: well, i'd like to say to the credit of mayor breed, she's presented us with two strong candidates. your character is so strong, and your commitment to doing the right thing seems to be there. one of the things that many of us want on this commission, in particular this commission, are really strong people that can actually withstand pressure because you're going to get pressure. you're going to get pressure to make decisions politically, and that's not how you should be making decisions. when it comes to the question of taser, i hope you have an open mind in the discussion whether it's the right thing to do or not, and try not to only

listen to one set of people that really really want to use it and listen to everybody else with the same wait. and i really like both of you -- both of your understanding that, you know, we focus a lot on how do we reform, as if the officers themselves don't need help, and it's good that hopefully, with your understanding, the mental health of police officers is very important, that we need to support them with their day-to-day -- not only with their day-to-day, but there's real specific incidents that's dramatic to anybody, so they need help. so that's a good thing that i heard from both of you. overall, i would say that i'm

looking forward to working with both of you. so i would like to recommend both miss taylor and both -- d.j. to be appointed as a police commissioner with a positive recommendation. >> supervisor safai: before we take that vote, i just want to make one quick comment. i just want to make a note for the record, it's something that's very important to me as chair of this committee, that once we move forward with these recommendations, and they are affirmed by the full board, we will have put five commissioners on this body. i think that this body has been very important to me, and it's for the mayor and other voices on this committee, that we have fresh voices and perspectives on this community.

there's been a lot of anger, rightfully so, and i think that we need to move this in a new direction with new voices and new faces. after the 7.5 hour hearing, the mayor put a recommendation on that. we thank you for your time and your commitment. this is not an easy commission to be on. as new commissioner, this is over 20 hours a week. there's a tremendous amount of pressure on you.

i'll just turn it over to supervisor stefani. >> supervisor stefani: i look forward to working with both of you, and you know, i want to thank everyone else -- everyone in the audience who came out to speak in support and to speak your mind on this very important subject. i mean, it's -- like i said, it's one of the most important commissions, and i want to thank you for your willingness to serve. i know that the both of you are going to be incredible, and what supervisor safai said about keeping both sides in mind, i know you'll do that. we've been through so many of these hearings now, and it's nice to be able to put forth two good names to the board of supervisors.

>> supervisor safai: thank you. so did you -- we made a motion and positive recommendation, we can do that without objection. so congratulations, we look forward to a final hearing in front of the full board of supervisors. [ gavel ] [applause] >> supervisor safai: please call the last item. >> clerk: item number six is a hearing to consider appointing two members, term ending november 2, 2019, and two members, term ending january 31, 2021, to the central market street and tenderloin area citizen advisory committee. >> supervisor safai: okay. we have six applicants for this citizens advisory committee. we'll hear from the first, mr. sam dennison. is sam here -- or miss dennison, i apologize. miss dennison, if you could come forward and make some

brief remarks. >> sure. first, i just want to say that i appreciate the time and commitment you've put in the previous appointments. we've been here a long time, and i'll keep it short. i've been involved with the tenderloin c.a.c. i moved here in 2011 and started attending the meetings in 2011. i think with the exception of antoinette adelman, i have been involved with the committee since its beginning. my term came to an end or ended under the change in legislation, i'm not sure which precipitated the event. after i became appointed to the

committee, there was some change to the committee, and i am now chair of the committee and have been for a chair. we've gone from meeting less than the regulated three times a year for a while. once i took over, we were able to get quorum more frequently although it remained difficult because of the number of people dropping off of the committee. in the last year we've worked hard with the community and the corporate liaisons to create some meaningful engagement positive and beyond the community benefit agreement. most notable is the agreement between the corporate liaisons to work for the benefit of the public schools in the tenderloin. they're really focused on a

strategic plan to raise somewhere between 250 and $500,000 a year to benefit the local schools skprks that would be beyond what the community requirement benefits require. it originally started with 11 members, with three members being residents. when the legislation was reformulated a year ago, what we did was to say that all positions could be either representing a certain area of expertise or being a resident. and it's a really important piece of the puzzle to notice that the people who hung onto the committee and stayed, have been very steadfast and showing up and providing quorum have been residents. the representatives from other interested groups have fallen

away. so i want to speak both steve to -- speak to both steve tenes and myself. >>. >> supervisor safai: we'll call you up if you have any questions. let's hear from our second applicant, sylvia lewis. sylvia's not here, so we'll go to the third applicant, kathy brazenwit. kathy's not here. mr. steve -- steven tenes. >> good afternoon, commissioners. thank you very much for allowing me time to speak. i've been on the commission for

about three years a, and my record speaks for itself. i've only missed one and been late for one. i work with three nonprofit: safe passage, which i'm late for now, the s.r.o. collaborative, so i'm very involved in the community and i think i'm the right person for the position. thank you. >> supervisor safai: the next applicant is jonathanto get in

housing industry.athanto get in so i worked as an on-call desk clerk at these properties in the tenderloin and eventually became a property manager.

during this time i have been protective of affordable housing and the homeless crisis we face in san francisco. initially was a critic of the tenderloin tax break. i had friends that were facing eviction at 1049 market. my friends beverly upton and jackie nailer were evicted from their home about five blocks away from twitter a couple years ago. as i worked on a proposal for h.u.d. bash at the cadillac hotel, i began to see benefits of the tax break, i have come

to support it. but i feel we have concerns with the homeless issues and with the drug epidemic and drug dealers in the neighborhood. and i would like to continue to support building more housing, both affordable housing and market-rate housing. i just want to see us build a tenderloin for everyone that protects low-income people but also pushes forward with building new housing and revitalizing the neighborhood. also in terms of my personal experience, i'm h.i.v. positive. i'm a recovered crystal meth addict. and to me, i really enjoy

coming to work each day in the tenderloin. i work on the 300 block of ellis as supportive housing property manager. and it's really good to be getting to know people on the block and having block meetings with the captain and with the other housing providers and with glide and youth with the mission. i would like to offer up my service for the citizens advisory committee for central market and tenderloin area. thank you. >> bryant dwong, our next applicant. >> good afternoon, supervisors. a little bit about myself. so i started my career in public service around the corner at supervisor kim's office.

since then i have transitioned to chinatown community development center, working as a services coordinator on the 200 block of turk. since my tenure as services coordinator, we have established semi-daily e.s.l. classes for our residents. weekly citizenship classes for residents. and we have partnered with the salvation army to provide my residence, particularly arabic mothers with their own private gym classes. so my goal is to be on the committee to help keep the neighborhood economically viable for my residence as a place to live.

and to -- sorry, i'm blanking. and to provide my residents, afford them the same opportunities as other san franciscans living in other districts but keeping the tenderloin as a gateway to america for yemeni refugees fleeing civil war in their country. thank you. >> i don't think we have any other applicants with us today. so we will open it up for public comment. any members of the public wish to comment on this item? please come forward.

>> how do i turn, okay, i am online. i have a few things to say. first i want to suggest that we have a continuance in order for more people to make applications. i would like to point out that the vacancy notice, there was five seats and the agenda said there were four seats to be filled. and also candidates need to be residents of the central market or tenderloin area. and i'm endorsing sam deniston and stephen tennis for their seats on the commission.

i would like to point out one of the applicants who was not here decided working for a non-profit since february 2018 but the non-profit is not in the area. i don't know if this person lives in the area. i have lived in the tenderloin since 1990 and i have been able to maintain residency there in the same place. thank you. is that my -- >> you have 25 seconds. >> okay. also, i want to point out this item is against the brown act because it has not been properly noticed. that's all i want to say. but i do hope you have a continuation so more people can come forward. thank you.

>> supervisor a. safai: next speaker? >> hi, good afternoon, supervisors, todd david on behalf of the san francisco housing coalition. we are here today giving our strong support to john bonano. his personal story, i think is really compelling. having found himself homeless at one point and able to get himself healthy, recovering from an addiction and working in the affordable housing world and he was really one of the leading advocates in the city from a pro-housing point of view. he is a strong believer in that we need more well-located housing all levels of affordability. and his commitment to the city, the tenderloin central market area is really, it's incredibly compelling.

unfortunately the other candidate we are supporting catherine riserwood had to leave to go to work. that's part of the problem with having these meetings at 11:00 during the week. we are supportive of kathie. i want to read an email from jack gardiner president of the jon stewart company where mr. bonano works. greetings supervisor stefani. i want to take a moment to encourage you to appoint jonathon bonano at your rules committee meeting. jonathon is employee of the jon stewart company and a long-time manager resident of affordable housing in tenderloin mission neighborhoods. he is an intelligent and thoughtful person and a great deal of experience with affordable housing, homelessness and tenderloin market street areas. i can assure you both he would

make an excellent member of the c.a.c. and that he will have the full support of his employer for serving on the committee. thank you for your consideration, best wishes and please feel free to contact me if any questions. thanks. >> supervisor a. safai: next speaker? thank you. >> my name is will duffy, north of market activist. i would like to speak to the support of candidates sam dennison and mr. steve tennis. they are both long term, very high-level organizers. better than anything i can do. i also appreciate your attention being able to ascern the gender pronoun, it's something others have struggled with. [ laughter ]

mr. tennis has a bio that's just incredible. i'm sure sam does as well. i think the other candidates sound like they are qualified. >> supervisor a. safai: thank you. >> hi, my name is michael nolty, i'm a san francisco civic leader. my neighbors have several concerns about the central market c.a.c. we are talking about today. it's an official body of the city. and we have several concerns. the vacancy notice mentions five seats, yet the agenda only mentions four. the actual applications were altered to say all four seats if you actually look at your packet. and that's not right because some of them don't actually live in the area that we are

supposed to be in for the actual c.a.c. on the 28th, i received a notice of cancellation. i only received a notice of cancellation of the c.a.c. i never received notices of the actual meetings which means these meetings are not really reaching out to the community. so i'm here as a body of the board of supervisors and this is probably the only time you could have public comment about a committee that meets that has helped regulate it. so this is the only time the community can talk to the board of supervisors about a community operating for several years now. and there's, it doesn't seem to have the right ways that some of the other committee meetings have. the minutes are not on the website. the last set of minutes were in 2016. and so again we are asking for a continuance to allow more people to apply. we feel this is a decision-making body.

there are currently five entities that are doing stuff for the community. so we strongly ask for a continuance because it's only important to have all five seats filled at the same time when you have a notice. so thank you. >> supervisor a. safai: any other members of the public wish to comment on this item? get in line, brother. i gotta go! please, go right ahead. >> my name is dennis gregory, the founder of the san francisco mural project in the tenderloin. we have been running that project for seven years. i myself would never run for a citizen advisory committee because i live in the mission district and i do work with the community in the tenderloin. part of our goal of our project is to give voice to voiceless populations in our community.

and i think that if we could have a continuance, it would give us an opportunity to do more outreach to the actual residents that live there in the tenderloin and call that place home everyday. and i think in having more residents that are located in the tenderloin on that advisory committee would help steer the direction of the program's outreach they are tasked with doing and to start to actually get out to people who really do live there. >> supervisor a. safai: thank you. i appreciate it. sorry, the only reason i gave you a hard time is i need to get to a doctor's appointment. no, no, i want to make sure everybody has the opportunity to speak. any other members of the public wish to comment on this item? seeing none. public comment is closed. i just want to ask the clerk. was there some confusion on the listing in terms of how many seats were available, versus how many seats we had?

>> clerk: i'm not aware -- the centers posted listed five seats posted december 22nd, 2017. there's a possibility one of those seats were filled in the interim or no applicant qualified for seat 5. >> supervisor a. safai: the problem for members of the public so you understand, the reason this was ask today be put on the agenda today is this advisory committee has had quorum issues, hasn't been able to meet. that's one of the reasons there hasn't been an opportunity for the community to engage. because they have tried to have meetings, there has not been a quorum. but it sounds like for some of the folks who came out today, sam, would you like to come and -- please come to the microphone. >> [off mic] >> supervisor a. safai: if you could do it briefly. thank you. >> we have succeeded in making quorum for about a year. we are doing that. we had five seats.

four seats were filled. we were able to use those four people to complete those seats. we just recently lost one of our members so we are down to three now. under an interpretation, i'm not sure where it came from, it looked as though two of us had to be reappointed before we could meet again. that's why we needed the urgency of this particular meeting to make sure we at least have three appointed members. antwoinette's seat wasn't necessary to be reappointed. we need at least three reappointed to meet. if we could have all five appointed we can make quorum, it makes it easier and takes the pressure off the people there. as far as i know, there were only four seats that needed to be appointed or reappointed and antwoinette's was the one that was stable. does that answer? >> supervisor a. safai: i think so. >> okay. >> supervisor a. safai: i'm

hearing from the public that people feel they didn't really have the opportunity to put in applications, even though this is a body that's struggled with -- >> so notices were put out and have been put out through community organizations since last february, when we had another seat that was open. so while -- and one of the confusions, and again i don't know where this falls out, there are two sites. one on the sfgov network of websites that only goes back or stopped functioning in 2016 and another site that has everything since then. >> supervisor a. safai: let me just ask this question, i think this will help us make a decision. your next meeting is when? october? >> the first thursday in october. >> supervisor a. safai: the rules committee is shifting to a once a week meeting. i think a continuance will give you the opportunity to have a little more conversation with some of the folks in the audience and we could bring this issue back up. that's probably what i would lean toward.

but i also want to hear what members of the committee -- go ahead, supervisor. > supervisor n. yee: i feel comfortable appointing three of the four seats and continue for the other one. >> supervisor a. safai: we can do that. that's a good idea. > supervisor n. yee: two are reappointments. >> supervisor a. safai: why don't we at least do two reappointments. >> that will at least give is a quorum. > supervisor n. yee: in communication with supervisor kim's office. and she is strongly recommending one of the other persons. >> supervisor a. safai: i got it. i'm concerned, somebody had to leave, people didn't get to respond. why don't we make some appointments and we can continue one of them. > supervisor n. yee: want me to make a motion? >> supervisor a. safai: sure, go ahead. > supervisor n. yee: i would like to make a motion to reappoint sam dennison for seat

one. stephen tennis for seat four and bryan doug to be appointed for seat two with a residency waiver. >> supervisor a. safai: can i make a friendly amendment, since jonathon is here, why don't we put jonathon in seat three. there's opportunities for people to have conversation in the future. > supervisor n. yee: then there won't be a need for continuance. >> supervisor a. safai: yeah, then we won't need to continue. let's do that. that's fine. are you okay with that friendly amendment? okay, so jonathon would go to seat three. can we do that without objection? > supervisor n. yee: yes. >> supervisor a. safai: okay. great. so i think, i will just end before we gavel down, i will end this is a body that is constantly changing. i think what some of the confusion is there were postings back in december.

maybe the posting had one reading there. we filled a number of those seats. a lot of folks engaged on this. my office and supervisor yee's office engaged with supervisor kim and they made some strong recommendations for reappointment and putting people forward. i think we should go forward with that. we are happy to engage. as i said, there's opportunities for, believe me, there's opportunities for this advisory committee moving forward. yes? >> i would like to bring your attention back to item 3 and 4. i note there's possibility -- >> supervisor a. safai: can i finish this? >> yes, sorry. >> supervisor a. safai: we will move that without objection with a positive recommendation for the board. >> item 3 and 4, had a committee report and we didn't send it out as a committee report. > supervisor n. yee: let's rescind the vote. >> supervisor a. safai: let's rescind the vote on item 3 and 4. can we do that without objection. we will send items 3 and 4 with

positive recommendation from the committee to the full board? > supervisor n. yee: yes, thank you. >> supervisor a. safai: any other items before us today? >> clerk: that completes the agenda for today. >> supervisor a. safai: okay, we are adjourned.