homes? thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, members of the board of supervisors. i'm here today to talk about my struggle with homelessness. and i am embarrassed and ashamed to come before this body because i have tried as best i can to resolve this on my own and i have not been very successful. for the past few years i -- well, for 20 years i have lived in san francisco when i lost my housing. in the past two years i have been trying to access the various shelter services and the shelter operators. and i ran into a barrier that kept me from using the services, which was the smoking of other clients. and the refusal of the shelter

operators to stop smoking even though they are required to by city ordinance in their contract. i was discriminated against and denied services and retaliated against for going to the san francisco human rights commission and the human services agency, civil rights commission. and also to the mayor's office on disability, who -- and also working with the a.d.a. coordinator at the homelessness department, and when they did the reorganization they didn't know how to -- the employees didn't know how to. and as a result i was subjected to threats of physical violence, to have my legs broken, to have my nose pushed out. threatened. rumors were spread out that i was trying to get shelters closed down. none of that was true. and none of my complaints ever

got the accommodations that i requested because of my respiratory disability and the smoking make me sick. and the doctor said that you can't be around this -- and there was no treatment. and when all of the agencies did not help to resolve and move this forward i resorted to the court system and i did not have an attorney and on my own. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> board of supervisors, i have been working for 23 years and i just learned that i was being outsourced. i felt so sad because my family depends upon it.

i have a family and a wife and they depend on me. my health coverag coverage. for me it's hard to get a new job. with the new technology i have applied and i'm not good on computers. i hope when mr. jean returns, you will all support us. thank you so much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm crystal briar and today i spent the afternoon with eight gardeners in gardens and it's unfortunately they have been outsourced and tomorrow they'll spend the day trying to figure out what we can do to support them. but we're asking that you guys consider holding them accountable for any outsourcing

at this point. because now it's just getting worse. and livelihoods are being affected. i know that a lot of the stuff that took place today, a lot of people worried about being homeless or being able to afford to sustain where they live. so we're just encouraging you that you guys can consider making sure that kaiser doesn't continue to outsource the workers. thank you. >> thank you. and next speaker, please. >> my name is pedro, and i live in district 7 and the union organizer for kaiser in san francisco. i'm thanking the supervisors for supporting all of the workers who are affected by outsourcing, including our gardeners. kaiser permanente has $21 billion in capital reserves and there's no reason they would want to outsource over 1,000 jobs here in california. this issue really comes down to corporate greed. and i want to thank all of the supervisors who have had the

political will and the courage to stand up for working families. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. and just so that the members know that item has already had its public comments in committee. >> i'm alan wong with the united health care workers. we have a new wave of people that have been outsourced by kaiser permanente, that is not included in the resolution. the gardeners were told on the 17th that they'd being outsourced as well, so now kaiser permanente is trying to outsource over a thousand jobs for union members. we're here to stand up for our members and we're proud of the political courage that the supervisors have shown in terms of helping to support kaiser workers who being outsourced. thank you to my own supervisor, norman yee. and other supervisors that support. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> thank you, madam.

good evening, ladies and gentlemen, president cohen. this continues my comments that i began on september 11th. if you will recall this was a time of tremendous controversy about involuntary outpatient treatment. ab-1800 was discussed in california which was the predecessor to laura's law passed following the legislative session. director steven neighbor of the california department of mental health called it "the most attention that mental health had received in 20 years." in his entire 20-year career. now what in the world would 9/11 have to do with involuntary outpatient treatment? as i pointed out it did change the foreign intelligence

surveillance act of 1978. it did lower the requirement for electronic surveillance under the act to be conducted. if could be conducted for any reason. then up to now. and now you may think, what does this have to do with it? electronic surveillance is only for agents of foreign powers. well, a clause b2e of section 1801 of title 50 of the united states code applies or actually defines -- ah -- defines the state actor -- or defines -- oh,... i'm sorry. i'll have to try again next time. madam,... >> thank you for your comments. are there any other members of the public who would like to address the board during general public? >> i'm sorry, madam, i was

distracted by the earthquake. >> it's not shaking like it has in the past during an earthquake. >> was that an earthquake? >> are there any members of the public that would like to speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. madam clerk. i believe that brings us to the end of our agenda? >> no, we have item 53 through 55. >> oh, that's right. please call item 53. >> for adoption without reference to committee, a unanimous vote is required for resolutions on first read today. a sentence member may require to go to committee. >> any members would like to discuss the item? seeing none, colleagues we can take this same house, same call? without objection these items are adopted unanimously. madam clerk, i believe that brings us to the end of our agenda. >> yes, today's meeting will be adjourned in memories of the followed individuals on behalf of supervisor ronen for miss marlene erin and on behalf of

supervisor peskin for the late miss nan ross and miss sydney goldstein and miss veronaic sanchez and the motion made by president cohen on behalf of the entire board of supervisors for the late dr. price m. cobbs. >> thank you very much. at this time i'd thank our friends at sfgov-tv and matthew ignow for assisting with today's broadcast. ladies and gentlemen, we are adjourned. (♪)

>> good afternoon everyone. on the mayor of the city and county of san francisco. [cheers and applause] >> mayor breed: i'm really excited to be here with some of our city's most incredible leaders. members of the board of supervisors, and including the person who has led the efforts for each and every one of us that brought us here to this day thank you so much. [applause] for farm too loan, survivors of sexual harassment and assault of how to navigate through tangled web of city departments and resources as they fight for justice and accountability. but thanks to the leadership of everyone here, we are helping those survivors receive the help and the support that they truly need.

recent surveys have shown that more than 80% of women and 40% of men and have experienced some form of sexual harassment. nearly two thirds of those assaults are not even reported to authorities. so why is that klee because time after time -- why is that? time after time survivors have been dismissed by the system. the system that is supposed to help individuals get the treatment they need to help heal from the traumatizing experience that they have heart. we have heard so many incredible stories about things that victims have had to go through, to the point where they just given up. and to have to recount such a horrible tragedy, time and time again, is something, that what we're doing here today to address is hopefully, is going to help to deal with this. this is not ok in the era of the

me too movement and we cannot stand by and let survivors go through this experience alone. today, i am proud that the board of supervisors is taking a huge step forward and helping survivors of sexual harassment and assault by creating our new office sexual harassment and assault response prevention. [cheers and applause] >> mayor breed: it is why we are here today. we, as a city clearly need to send a strong message. we hear you, we are here for you and will do everything we can to put the resources necessary to make sure that we don't just pass legislation to make an office like this possible. we actually passed the budget allocation to support the success of this office. i want to thank all of my colleagues who are here. every member of the board of supervisors was a sponsor of this legislation. every member of the board of supervisors thought for and

voted to support the funding to make this office a success. i also would like to take this opportunity to address cheryl davis from the san francisco human rights commission. she's not here today but she will be leading the charge in this effort, because we know that she focuses on issues around human rights and equity and things that matter. this clearly matters to the city and county of san francisco, which is why we are putting it at the forefront of the human rights commission. i am grateful to cheryl for her leadership. thank you to all the commissioners here who are here from the commission on the status of women. it does take a village to move things forward in this capacity. we have had an incredible leader in this effort. someone who has been a fighter and relentless in not only just producing this legislation, but making sure that every member of the board of supervisors served as a cosponsor and a real partner for this particular efforts. ladies and gentlemen, at this time i would like to introduce

supervisor hilary ronen. [applause] >> hello ladies and gentlemen in san francisco. today is an amazing day and victory for all women, but also all survivors of sexual assault in san francisco. let's give that a round of applause. [laughter] [applause] >> i want to start off by thinking mayor lee, first off when she was still a supervisor for being a very early sponsor of the legislation, and now for signing it into law and holding this beautiful ceremony. i think it elevates the importance of the legislation. thank you so much, mayor breed. and to all my members on the board of supervisors, it is so rare to introduce a piece of legislation that is unanimously sponsored from day one by every member of the board of supervisors. i think that is a testament to

how amazing this board is. and my colleagues who care so much about this issue. it is also a testament to the women behind the legislation. i did not write this legislation alone. i wrote this piece of legislation with a group of six survivors of right who worked every single day -- of rape and they brought the issue to my attention to begin with and then who said we don't just want to complain, we want to sit down and solve this issue. so i just want to give a huge shout out to those women and a very specific thank you to jane doe, who you will hear from in a moment, to rachel, who is here with us today, tiffany who couldn't be here because she's on one of those rare two-week vacations, but who will have a chance to celebrate at the board of supervisors in a few weeks, to britney, to maria, who is here with us as well, thank you for being here, at also to

audrey you you will hear from in a moment. we had an incredible team together, with my legislative aids, and specifically carolina morales, two champions this was all of her heart and soul from day one. if we can give them all a very big round of applause, they deserve it and so much more. [applause] >> so it was also surprised me that there were many women in san francisco who don't come forward and report sexual assaults, rape or sexual harassment, because we know this is an epidemic all throughout the country. but what did surprise me is that women who did feel comfortable coming forward, who wanted accountability from their perpetrators, who wanted to be involved in our city system to investigate and prosecute and to

get some accountability and justice, that they were treated so poorly by city departments. that was, honestly, a shock to me. the more i learn learned, the more i realized that we couldn't just have a meeting with the heads of those departments, who i know have the best intentions. we needed something more regular that was going to get us the type of systemic change that would make sure that san francisco would not only dissuade survivors from coming forward and reporting these crimes, but would also take a step forward and make sure we are on the cutting edge and meeting the nation in terms of the best practices of dealing with sexual assault. when we have statistics that one in every two women in her lifetime a sexually assaulted and one of every six men sexually assaulted practice is not something that we can just throw our hands up and say, that is a shame.

this is an epidemic that must be taken with all seriousness. we must have systemic change at every level. and by starting a sharp office in san francisco where survivors and victims can come forward and say, i am not being believed by a city employee, i am not being taken seriously, i'm not being treated with dignity, i'm not being respected, that from day one, they will have an advocate to help them navigate through these difficult systems will be with them side-by-side as they are going through the very painful process of telling their story and getting justice. so this is a very important step is one of only many steps that we need to end this epidemic of sexual assault in the united states. and i'm so proud of the leap forward we are making here today without further ado, it is my absolute honor to introduce to survivors who will speak to you

next. the first one, jane doe, is actually a city employee who i have worked on for years on women's rights legislation. we worked on equal pay legislation together and is the one that brought these issues to my attention in the first place. we will hear from her and a moment. and then audrey martinez, who is a leader with communities united against violence. it is an organization that works with the lgbtq community to end violence in that community and deal with a very specific issue that that community faces. if you can give them a warm round of applause, that would be wonderful. thank you. >> hello. mayor brigade, -- mayor breed, thank you. recently, a candidate for congress stated that the people

closest to the pain should be closest to the power. often, we suffer in silence. many of us who speak up are further quieted by abuse. but you listens. you listen to me and dozens of rape victims recount the details of our darkest hour. so many of us were not only raped but blamed and discarded by san francisco process law enforcement agencies. those sworn to serve and protect under equal protection of the law. so many of us did not receive proper care at the hospital because the city process sexual assault response team was inadequately resourced. we are told rape is a fact of life. rape is a sentence. the terror of the crime is only the beginning. the magnitude is unfathomable at first. it slips by shock and denial. but so corrosive is the impact of victims can never be the same nor can we escape the nightmare

as it unfolds. i am jane doe. it has been two years and nine months since i was raped. 949 days of my precious life stolen. supervisor ronan knew me before as a colleague and governments, a week or so after the rape, we had a call about work. i blurted out what had happened. sfpd was utterly indifferent and tried brushing me off without so much as an interview. they deemed rape to be complicated but not serious. i was patronized for asking police to take basic investigative steps like securing video evidence or interviewing key witnesses. i couldn't wrap my mind around it. neither could supervisor whose unwavering ronen support for your support has been a source of strength. she and her extraordinary team, especially early not more alice, have worked with a group of

victims of rape to a summons the two stand up. mayor breed, supervisors, i'm overwhelmed with gratitude for each of you. at the beginning of the hearing that led us to today, victim after victim shared harrowing experience as a being trivialized, blamed and. you listens, you asked watchful and smart questions of our city department that consistently failed the rising masses of victims of rape and assault. you stood with us on the steps of city hall to call for change. and today, we take a step forward by taking action. this office will be a source of advocacy and accountability that shamefully, we don't reelect in san francisco. a voice definitely absent in a course crying out to, me too. on behalf of victims, survivors, warriors, loved ones, all those

who ever had or will be affected , thank you. also, special thanks to supervisor stefani for your support. without women and office, we wouldn't be here. it is amazing that today our first african-american female mayor is signing legislation authored by a female legislature and supported by all of her colleagues. and by community members of all genders. this is truly a celebration of empowerment. to those who spoke up in the hearing, at the sv you or in civil court, because your criminal case is on shelf, thank you. i am honored and humbled to stand in solidarity with you. to those who cannot or will not speak up, who are so far from a seat at the table, we stand in solidarity with you and today, we start the work of building a

bridge to you. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, everyone. i am here, my name is audrey martinez. i'm a member of the community united against violence. i am doing what it takes to make the change, the change i want to see in my life. i want to hear -- to celebrate and thank mayor breed and supervisors in all city officials that supported this new love to create an office of sexual assault prevention and intervention. this office is important because people of all genders need to have a safe place and get help after violence occurs. as an emigrant survivor, it is

important to have a space where we can feel cared about without being ashamed. thank you for creating this space that helps foster, sorry, i'm so nervous. to be accountable as a human being and stop being shamed for the experiences that we have gone through. it is about time to get help and start the change . the shame. thank you. [applause] >> mayor breed: again, i know it takes a lot of courage to get up here and share your experience. thank you both so much for your courage and for bringing us to this point. i'm excited that we are here today to sign this legislation with members of the board of supervisors, president cohen had to leave but we have supervisor vallie brown, supervisor catherine stefani, supervisor norman yee, and others.

thank you all so much for your support of this very important legislation. at this time, i will sign the legislation. [cheers and applause] >> mayor breed: here we go. and today's date is? [cheers and applause]

vignet . >> can we proceed again? let's just wait for commissioner tan. >> all right. we're going to reconvene the meeting starting now. we had some technical difficulties to be worked out.

>> okay. so this is video that shows the entrance to hue. i'm going to fast forward a little bit. there's probably about five to six minutes of really no activity. what i'll be showing are the patrons leaving hue. this is about 1:30 in the morning. you're about 2:20 in the video, so if you want to go forward --

>> yeah. it's right about 1:28 where they start coming out. so the helpful point to look at is the entrance. you see the barricades coming up, and entrance you'll see at the top of your screen. so i'm going to be pointing out people that you'll be seeing later on in the assault across the street at the liquor store. this gentleman coming out right now. i'll go here, i'll go back. he meets up with another

friend. now they're kind of hanging out in the front. and part of this, i'm going to narrate what's going on. as things start to happen in this small part, it happens pretty quick, you are ache going to start seeing activity and people are going to be drawn across the street. there's the two guys from the club. now they're walking over. they're going to the north side of the street. >> officer, not to interrupt you, but how many security -- i've only seen one so far. >> there's -- there are more than one. let's see if i can start pointing -- that might have been mr. -- that could have

been mr. montoya walking in right there. i'm not sure. and this gentleman coming out, you'll notice the black shirt, the collar has kind of -- some -- a white portion on it. he'll be readily identifiable later on. he's hitting the cigarettes right now. he's going to walk down toward the bottom of the screen. he looks intoxicated by the gait, as far as how he's walking. he's walking across the street. people are going to start coming out of hue. more patrons that you'll see later on. so now they're looking across the street. something's got their

attention. he's going over, trying to get the rest of the group, come on, come on, come on, still looking over there. she's -- definitely some attraction across the street. she's pointing out, she's getting one of her friends, pointing over there, there's something going on. >> who's that with the radio in the back pocket? >> i assume security. >> what does she have in her hand? >> here, more people coming out, appear intoxicated. they see something going on across the street. there's -- so we've got all these. they're moving over with a purpose. this guy is clearly intoxicated with a drink. i don't know what's in the drink. could be water, could be soda, could be alcohol.

i don't know, but he's crossing the street. a lot of people -- i did have a question here, and maybe later on, mr. bennett -- and i say mr. windsor -- saw some windmr here, as well. so we had all the people rush across the street. security's kind of looking over there. i believe this was mr. montoya here at the entrance. he's stepping back. they're still looking across the street. looks like she's reaching for her radio. mr. montoya sees something. looks like he's reaching into his pocket. could be a phone, and the phone went back in the pocket.

this gentleman coming out, you'll see him later on in the video, as well, with a scarf. this person appears to be security -- that's when the shots were fired. there's security there. the gentleman -- okay. there's mr. montoya picking up the phone. i assume that's when he called police. but i want you to look at these two gentleman. it looks like the security guard on the left is trying to keep the right back. but i'm confused here. what i've never seems before is he wants to get over there, which is fine, but you're going to see him all of a sudden take his shirt off, and reverse it around, and i don't know why he would do that. i don't know if it's a security practice. there it goes. shirt goes off, and then, putting on there, so it looks like before, there was labels on it, but now, there's no labels.

i'm curious as to why he would do that. now, he's putting his phone kind of -- i guess he has a pouch on the inside. but maybe we can address that. that was something that i was really curious about. maybe this'll go in the right arrested. okay. so if you look outside here, this is now across the street, and he's got the gentleman in the long sleeve red shirt. he's discussing something with the person that's going to be hit later on. they're kind of going back and forth. shortly, there's going to be a scuffle outside. looks like the gentleman in the shirt was trying to separate them a bit. i don't know if he's the one in

the white shirt, but it looked like it. now, the guy in the white jacket, it seems like he's trying to give him a hug or something. i don't know. it's hard to see from that angle. the man in the sweatshirt, the gray sweatshirt with the blue, he's the shop owner. so if you still look outside, people are kind of milling around, and watch here. bam, okay. that gentleman just hit him right in the face. he's going to come in the extort now to get away from -- from all the people that are

outside. so now, we've changed angles. that's the gentleman that was hit in the face. he's kind of sitting there, looks like he's going on his phone. also to the right of him is this other guy that's wearing all black. he was just a person that was just standing there, not having to do anything with anything, but in just a moment, you're going to see a large group come in. one, and another. more people are coming in. you have a different angle. you'll see how many.

it's actually quite a bit, and these are the people -- they were at hue before that, or right across the street. throwing the chair, trying to attack -- that person's completely around the bar -- or the counter. more and more people are coming. that guy jumps over the counter, trying to get over. i would be happy to answer questions at the end, but i'd like to get through the presentation, please.

there's the beginning of it. you'll see how many people are going to come in. you are going to see the guy on the bottom of your screen. he's going to get punched in the head by this large guy right over here. he's not associated with any fight whatsoever. bam. remember our friend with the drink, the person that looked like he was trying to jump over the counter, the man with the collar, the white collar on --

the black shirt with the white collar. he's shoving him back to make sure he doesn't go outside. and here's an angle, you can see the entrance throughout the store. there's the person. now everyone's jumping in, but now, here's a real good shot of the fight and all the people that are going in and being involved in this.

now, this is the last angle that we have. this is down the cameras from the area of cosmo, and this is going to show -- if you look at the top, the top area of your screen is where the liquor

store is, and then, down here is just -- you've got the pizza place, and then, you've got the other night club. i'm going to speed this up just a little bit. so the fight's taking place out of view, but you're going to see the gunman leave the area. an and as i said, i don't know what the gunman -- where he was, but i do know he was in this area of the fight.

there's the guy -- he's running eastbound, so he's going to a car and getting the gun. you're going to see two people kind of hanging out here very, very shortly, and then, he returns back and starts firing in the air. >> is this before or after the fight? >> the fight is happening still up here. >> got it. >> so during the fight, the one person ran that away. and you're going to see him return very shortly, and then, you're going to see him take his hands up in the air, and

you'll actually see him firing up in the air. and then you're going to see him quickly leave the area. and then, we have another angle for the last angle, so you can see it from the camera that's facing that way. so the fight's still going on, they're still watching it. now this guy, boom, there he goes, and takes the gun out, fires, goes out of range. now, we're going to see all the patrons that were involved in the fight, they're going to go after him, so he's going to start backing up this area. they get real aggressive and start coming at him, so he starts taking off. there, you'll see it.

there's our friend with the scarf. he seems to be the peacemaker as much as possible in trying to stop his friend that was --

okay. and then, this is the last one. this is just the up.

>> yeah, i think we've seen enough. we've seen the other angle. >> okay. >> so thank you. and i did want to address, there was a question from the audience about asking questions. the way these things are setup, there's no place for dialogue between two of the people, so after -- after the officer matthias is finished with his presentation, i would welcome bennett or mr. bloom to come up and pose questions to us that you might think are useful. >> okay. so it's quite apparent that the san francisco entertainment commission have been able to find the correcti session of

conditions that reduce violence, so your conditions are working. we're not getting the same volume of calls for service. i remember, you know, when we were here in may, what you all saw with your own eyes. i'm not talking about c.a.d.s, i'm talking about stuff that you saw with your own eyes. we're just lucky that there's so much more video out there that we're able to retrieve to investigate an incident, either to prove that people are not involved or to prove that people were involved, but i just feel that your conditions are working. violence has been greatly reduced on broadway, to the point of it's just been that one related incident since -- since you imposed the conditions. do you have any questions for me? >> you remind me of the date of that video one more time? >> that was may 27. that was a saturday night to sunday morning, about 1:30 in

the morning. >> on the conditions -- on the -- it says security must have security markings on their shirts and their jackets. on the video, i don't see that, so that's one thing that i want to address with operations procedures. that's already a violation of condition, okay? again, the incident happened away from the club, you know, whether the -- of course, you could say it came or whatever, but it is far away, and, i mean, i can't really address that situation. >> do you have questions specifically for officer matthias? >> no. it's probably best to go over these comments at the end. >> okay. so security, no identification on their persons. >> mm-hmm. >> correct, right? and other times, have you had visits to the venue at closing,

as your other officers report, that they don't have identifications on them, stating that -- >> i would have to look. >> okay. okay. >> yeah, and part of it, i was just -- i would like to hear -- i just didn't understand the whole thing of taking the shirt off and turning it inside out as well as putting the other things away. i don't know -- i know i would never -- you know, if i was going into a situation, it's not like i'm going to take my star off and takeoff my patches. >> i don't know if john still has his security there. we can ask him, too. but my main thing is following the conditions, and if you're still following the conditions and being a good operator, then i have no problem, like, changing things, but already, i can see in the video, it's pointed right there, they're posed to have clear identification. can't even tell who's the security other than radios.

>> okay. officer matthias, thanks for presenting all of that. so this is the only incident. have you gotten noise complaints or anything like that? >> i have not. >> okay. and has broadway overall had a decrease or is it this particular venue? i'm kind of trying to understand what's going on along the street. >> it's not just for hue. i want to impress upon the commission that as you see here, as well as the video presentation that we did four months ago, you have that spark, and then, all of a sudden people that aren't even -- don't even have issues with each other, it cobecomes almost like a feeding frenzy. we see across the street with that other person being assaulted, so it affects the entire climate on broadway. it's not just hue, and if it's just hue, i'm concerned about that, as well. but it's the whole climate there. can you imagine if you're out -- you're out, you want to

go to a night club, and all of a sudden you've got somebody firing shots up in the air? that's just nonacceptable, and i'm not saying that was a hue patron whatsoever, but i will say the catalyst of that happening was that fight, and those were the customers coming over, the guests from hue going right over there and attacking that other person. >> and did hue assist you -- obviously, you got the video from them. did they assist you in identifying this -- the person holding the gun? >> i would have to look through the report in the statement form. it doesn't always say if the person works at a place, it just lists the -- the witnesses. i'd be more than happy, if i get the names of the hue employees, i can check that versus the -- >> sure. >> the victim -- or the statement forms. >> it sounds like there were police that were able pretty immediately. >> yeah. >> okay.

>> right. >> yeah, i partly ask that because, you know, if they have i.d. scanners, i'm wondering how those were or were not used in identifying anyone? >> i don't think that the i.d. scanners -- correct me if i am wrong, but i don't think that the i.d. scanners were quite in operation at that point. i believe it was where those -- those -- i believe -- 'cause they wanted to have enough time to get it up and running. i believe that was june 1. >> well, we can ask them when they come up. >> okay. >> okay. i think that's all of my questions for now. >> thank you, officer matthias. i think it would make -- it seems that some of us have some questions for the head of security, mr. windsor, is that -- so maybe we can ask mr. windsor some questions. >> commissioners. >> so john, are you still security -- head of security

for your company still? >> yes. >> can you tell me why you know the conditions that there is no identification on the security guards other than radios in this video? i want to hear from -- [inaudible] >> okay. but you're in charge of the security. that's your company. >> yes, i am. >> so do you have to follow the procedures or -- >> simple answer. >> well, i'm asking -- >> that night -- >> okay. >> dovetails with the video of the gentleman who's in the t-shirt -- >> no, step one. >> it's a dovetail, so i have to answer both, if you don't mind. >> okay. okay. go ahead. >> so it goes to the gentleman who put his t-shirt inside out wasn't security. that's one of the managers, and he drives a lot of the front door security for that evening, so i wasn't personally there, which is why i put that as context, because the condition is straightforward, but only bennett and mark who's the person that put the t-shirt

inside out, followed the instruction. >> if he's the head of security, wouldn't he still have a security marking on himself? >> the gentleman who was holding mark back, that was security. >> okay. >> so mark is a manager, and he's directing security. >> okay. what about the rest of the security guard? why don't they have security on their shirts or jackets, because according to the permit, it says they're supposed to have some kind of security on their shirts or jackets. >> just really quickly, one there were people that are just part of the relations teams that focuses on overserving and things like that. there is security. there is also in between the time frame of when we were supposed to get it, it does take time to print that, as well, but they does have -- >> okay. all security liaisons or not,

all people who are assigned to protecting your patrons should have "security" on their thing. i'm saying on the outside, you had one security guard with a radio. she went out to get a hot dog. >> our v.i.p. hostess has to wear security -- >> whatever. you're supposed to have at least six persons with "security" on their six. >> just to we can clear it up, so i know -- >> i would think all security who's involved with the patrons should have "security" on their shirts to identify. >> i just want to know what the definition of your security is because we do have people outside that are hostesses, so he want them -- you want them in security shirts, as well? >> well, it's your call. i don't see one person with

security, so you're telling me they're all security service people? >> may i point something out? >> sir, i'm talking to the owner. i'm just asking the questions. >> i'm getting a question from you, commissioner lee? commissioner lee, the way i'm hearing it, he's saying there are six security with labels. they just didn't show up in the camera because they're outside of the frame, and there's other staff that aren't security. i don't know why they're outside. they should be hosting inside, so his question is maybe should they have a t-shirt that says hosts or something. i think the people that you're identifying as security in that video, what i'm hearing bennett say is not actually security. >> these people that your bottle service is helping with your bottle service, your liaison, as you call it, if a fight breaks out inside the bottle service area, are