tru and a meeting scheduled for 2019. >> thank you. mark had to leave because he had to go to class. mark bautista is our new intern and senior at s.f. state studying mechanical engineering with a minor in electrical engineering and has done course work and i'm impressed with his enthusiasm and i'm already learning a lot from him and will help us plan what the next steps will be on clean pour -- power

s.f. she's worked at the network and worked at the annual winter fest. she has extensive history in fund and in data analysis and i'm thrilled to have her join our team in room 409. so the last item i have is just to a reminder we need to set our meeting schedule for 2019. i sent you and your staff some suggested dates. i will be bringing that for your approval at the next meeting. >> commissioner: thank you very much. colleagues do you have anything today. welcome leah and mark and thank you for your service. thank you. we look forward to working with you. thank you very much. public comments? >> welcome to the interns and just a request, to mr. goebel,

if you could make sure mr. bautista is looped in to conversation the advocates around clean power s.f. to make sure we're on the same page since he's advising you. that would be great, thanks. >> commissioner: new very much. next speaker, please. >> i'll give you background and history of the cab history. >> commissioner: that's the next item on general public comment. >> this is? >> commissioner: this is the executive officer's report. any other public comment on item 10? seeing none. we're closed for public comment. please call item 11. no action was taken on item 10. 11 is public comment. now, please, sir.

>> i love these formalities. i'm michael spain and started in '71 as a driver. in 1977 the biggest cab company yellow cab company collapsed and i with 200 people bought it and began to run it as a co-op. we had to drive to pay the note because we bought the company. so everyone before 1977 bought their taxi cabs either the way we did or from anyone who had a cab and want to sell it and get out of the business. in 1978 there was a sponsored bill before the voters and passed. it was passed in 1978 and for 40 years it would lock the industry into no sales. you couldn't sell or buy and everyone was frozen in time

though the cabs became more valuable over time because of inflation and because the city inflates certain items faster than others. and they tried to reverse the bad things that happened under prop k. that's why we have this situation today. what i'm going to say now is basically blasphemy in the industry. we heard a lot of t.n.c. and jumping on them. the big revolution has been the t.n.c.s. they've changed transportation drastically. as they cheap and the greatest thing to happen to san francisco in at least 100 years. and i stand to lose if this thing passes because i'm part of

the pre-ks but i tried to get the industry to change -- [bell ringing] [off mic] >> commissioner: thank you very much. any other public comment? >> i understand you're under a time constraint. i can come back at another meeting if that helps. would that be better? okay. thank you. >> commissioner: no, no, no. >> i didn't want to infringe on anybody's other appointments. i'm looking at the commission. i was barely aware of its existence before this came up and it seems to be a commission without portfolio that can delve into all kinds of things like a

minister without portfolio in a foreign government. i see that you have this study that's going to be done on labor and t.n.c.s and there's another area of t.n.c. operations that desperately needs looking into and that has to do with the safety of the public and the consumer protection of the public. there are a number of items under this i don't think are being addressed. certainly the c.p.u.c. is not addressing them. i spoke before about hours and shifts these workers are working, about their sleeping arrangements, about where they're coming from, how many hours they're putting on the road before they actually go to work. the kind of driving.

years ago the police did a survey and found a disproportionate number were being committed by t.n.c. drivers and how many accident they committing or involved in? what's the danger to the public from that and what about the counterfeit identity and most are driving without improper insurance. their personal insurance policies don't allow them to drive personally. this is an area perhaps the commission could enter in -- [bell ringing] >> commissioner: thank you, next speaker, please. > >> i wanted to talk about the same issues on the question of

insurance. because i go to the c.p.u.c. meetings quite reg air will, they have -- regularly, they have a hands-off position. they don't keep any kind of a database. i mean, they don't know who is driving. they don't know when they're driving and the biggest problem is they don't know when they're insured or not. now, one of these problems is the way t.n.c.s are set up is there are more vehicles available then there are rides and that's why you get rides more quickly. the only times that's not true is when they have these surge

pricing etcetera. now, one of the things that happens is that these drivers are using business cards. they give these to passengers and say, oh, any time you want to cab, call me. at that point, they are 100% uninsured of anything and driving entirely illegally. thank you. >> commissioner: thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> carlo maron, thank you for listening. i think uber will probably be here for a while so it's not a sustainable model that won't work in the long run. i think the original investors and there's some very powerful

ones the families of qatar and goldman sachs are looking for someone to take them off the hook for the mistake they made. it's jurisdictional dodgeball and they acknowledged they lacked enforcement capacity -- if a lyft driver runs a red light they won't say we have to wait for a state inspector. this is a suggestion on thinning out lyft and uber in san francisco. there's 45,000 cars, supposedly, if we can get it to 25,000 and the people who prefer this

service in the next few years can get a right in three minutes than one minute and we'd have less traffic and the drivers of lyft, uber and taxis would make more money and help the medallions too and would the vehicle code to require a commercial plate. 100% of the cars don't have commercial plates. it underpins the fact they're committing insurance fraud and it doesn't eliminate the fact that t.n.c.s have liability insurance but allows predatory pricing by dodging overhead and millions of dollars are hitting general fund at the hospital because the insurance carriers avoid the policy once the fraud -- [bell ringing] >> commissioner: thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> hello again. i'd like to thank you for your voice of unity. i would like to stay united but it's difficult under these

circumstances. we do have a major issue with the loans from the credit union no longer holding the medallion as collateral and it's cause huge problem and part of the division too is when it came from going from prop k to prop a and forced us to lose our spots on the list i waited 16 years and nobody cried for us. they were ready to throw us under the bus and make us buy. money rules the energy and we mentioned lowe, ting and wiener and they're huge advocates of the t.n.c.s. it's almost impossible to support us though i'd appreciate their support. you go on twitter and everything they do and say is a big lobby for the t.n.c.s.

it's very difficult. we're in a very extremely difficult situation and that's pretty much all i can say at this point and thank you for listening to us. >> commissioner: thank you very much. mr. brooks. >> thank you aaron brooks, californ californians for energy choice and under the structure you've been discussing and i would urge they include studying environmental impacts in the same way jobs are outsourced overseas because countries have lower environmental standards. these jobs are being outsourced to the ride hail companies because they have lower environmental standards. that's one of the factors and because they play their employees jerk wages the way

amazon does so that needs to be factors in because it's part of the economic equation the way the workers are paid and treat and how the ride hail companies get away with this and are under cutting the taxis. then i'll speak to the next item to save you time, future agenda items. i would definitely urge you and the executive officer, since you're meeting every two months to meet every month if you can but since you're meeting every two months right now to definitely put the local clean power s.f. build-out on the next agenda because i'm hearing through the grapevine the s.f.p.u.c. will make a request to the board of supervisors for funding to do a build-out study. i don't think the s.f.p.u.c. is the right fit for that and would be better the commission that's been driving the push for a local build-out and the board of supervisors were to lead the

charge on that and request the funding for alafco because it has the capacity to be forward thinking about clean energy whereas the s.f.p.u.c. has to be more conservative and that study should come through alafco and should be on the next agenda so the ball gets rolling. [bell ringing] >> commissioner: any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is now closed. please read the next item. >> clerk: item 12, future agenda items? any public comment? no. public comment is now closed. do we have any other business. >> clerk: that concludes our business for today. >> commissioner: thank you very much. we're adjourned.

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redistributing to people in the community. >> the moment that i became really engaged in the cause of fighting food waste was when i had just taken the food from the usf cafeteria and i saw four pans full size full of food perfectly fine to be eaten and made the day before and that would have gone into the trash that night if we didn't recover it the next day. i want to fight food waste because it hurts the economy, it's one of the largest emitters of greenhouse gases in the world. if it was a nation, it would be the third largest nation behind china and the united states. america wastes about 40% of the food we create every year, $160 billion worth and that's made up in the higher cost of

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there's someone who wants to eat, we have food, it's definitely hand in hand and it shouldn't be looked at as work or a task, we're feeding people and it really means so much to me. i come to work and they're like nora do you want this, do you want that? and it's so great and everyone is truly involved. every day, every night after every period of food, breakfast, lunch, dinner, i mean, people just throw it away. they don't even think twice about it and i think as a whole, as a community, as any community, if people just put a little effort, we could really help each other out. that's how it should be. that's what food is about basically. >> an organization that meets is the san francisco knight ministry we work with tuesday and thursday's.

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years. the core of the ministry, a group of ordain ministers, we go out in the middle of the night every single night of the year, so for 54 years we have never missed a night. i know it's difficult to believe maybe in the united states but a lot of our people will say this is the first meal they've had in two days. i really believe it is a time between life or death because i mean, we could be here and have church, but, you know, i don't know how much we could feed or how many we could feed and this way over 100 people get fed every single thursday out here. it's not solely the food, i tell you, believe me. they're extremely grateful. >> it's super awesome how welcoming they are. after one or two times they're

like i recognize you. how are you doing, how is school? i have never been in the city, it's overwhelming. you get to know people and through the music and the food, you get to know people. >> we never know what impact we're going to have on folks. if you just practice love and kindness, it's a labor of love and that's what the food recovery network is and this is a huge -- i believe they salvage our mission. >> to me the most important part is it's about food waste and feeding people. the food recovery network national slogan is finding ways to feed people. it's property to bring the

scientific and human element into the situation. >> good morning. today is wednesday, september 19th, 2018. this is a regular meeting of the abatement and appeals board. i would like to remind everyone to turn off all electronic

devices. the first item on the agenda is roll call. [ roll call ] >> we have a quorum. and the next item is item b. will all parties giving testimony today please stand and raise your right hand. do you swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth to the best of your knowledge. thank you. you may be seated. just for everyone's information, the way that the abatement appeals board will work is the department will present its case first, then the appellant. each side has seven minutes to present their case. then there will be public comment. each member of the pub has three

minutes to speak. lastly, there's rebuttal time of three minutes each for the department and appellant. >> approval of minutes. the meeting held on august 2018. >> next item is item d. case 6849386 pier street.

action requested by appellant. >> we have multiple complaints, phone calls from this property, stating that since 2010 there's nothing that's been done in this property. it was a cottage that has basically almost deteriorated, multiple dry rot issues. violation 2010 to correct the unsafe condition, which requires that notice. the owner had a building permit,

but later we found out that all those permits that were obtained, basically the building was rebuilt. there's planning, zoning approval. we started getting the phone call. hey, this was exceeded, can you guys come out. we went out, issued a notice of violation for what we saw there. we couldn't get access to the property, but we got access to the neighbor's property, and we could see it. some of the permits ask for the work or the property to be repaired in kind, but, again, those permits never went through planning. it wasn't routed to planning. there are we wrote a notice to violation.

staff is recommended to uphold the abatement and impose the cost. >> any questions? >> no, not at this point. >> okay. no questions for you. thank you so much. someone like to come forward? thank you. good morning. the levinson family. mr. levinson is stuck in traffic. he's coming from the parking garage. over time, as you've heard about, the property became dilapidated. he was ordered to repair the structure. he did get permits, hired the

contractor. the contractor went out and did the work and unfortunately found dry rot and removed more of the structure than was supposed to without the owner's knowledge or instructions to do that. the owner is in a very unfortunate position that the contractor has put him in but diligently trying to fix the problem. at this point, we have this new nov because more was removed from the structure than was supposed to be. so we have filed applications with planning department for conditional use permit and a variance because it's in the rear yard. that's been, i will say, difficult dealing with the planning process. it's taken longer than we wanted it to. we're diligently pursuing it and i think we're approaching the end of the process now. we just received notices back from the planner who's reviewing the applications. i think the last thing he's asked for is a couple of edits to the site plan, and then i

think we're going to have a hearing date shortly. so, you know, i appreciate everyone's patience on this. we are doing everything we can. the goal from the owner is to save what is a naturally affordable housing unit. it's a small dwelling unit that's been here forever and ever. we're going through, i think, more hassle in the permitting process than we would if they had just wanted to get rid of it. they're trying to save it. so we appreciate your interest in this. we would be grateful for more time to finish the process. what is there now will require substantial change to respect the neighbors wishes to see less of the structure. so that's what we've gone through with planning, modifying the plans. pes coivich, the structural

engineer is here as well. i will turn the microphone over to him. >> so planning has determined if the building was torn down. they're requiring an additional use hearing for permission after the fact to tear it down, and we've been instructed since there's a natural affordable housing unit there, that as part of the condition to tear it down, you have to put it back. so planning has been very diligent to make sure whatever goes back is respectful to the neighbors. there was an issue about what got build was taller, and so a lot of this has been making sure that whatever goes back is as small as possible to return a unit. there was parking back there underneath the unit, so the parking is on the second floor, and then underneath. most of the unit is being put on the ground floor, and we're having to deal with the moisture issue of the soil.

planning has reviewed the plans. they're now willing to move forward with some additional comments on dimension. when this started in 2010, the owner could have removed the unit, but he didn't. he wanted to keep it. we're trying to keep it. plannings wants to keep it. i'm sure everyone wants to keep as much affordable housing as we can. we've been brought in. we were not the original people there. >> relatively recently. >> right. and we want to get a unit back. that's what is being asked for, put a unit back as part of the condition. and it's in the rear. i've been out to what is built. it's framed. i'm not worried about the safety of the building. it may not be there with my new plans, but i'm not worried about the safety of that building. >> commissioner walk sneer? >> i know it's hard to estimate the time frame, but can you estimate the time frame of the

process for the hearing and building, assuming that there is a -- >> well, planning has given me three comments they want to check some dimensional issues. that should happen within this week or next. i can get that and resubmit it. we're now, instead of submitting a brand new permit, they want to reuse the 2015 permit and the 2015 variance, so we've got to figure out a way to take my drawings and insert it into the 2015, which is some conversation about the exact location. i would expect by next week planning should have whatever they need to move forward to schedule cu. they're going to reuse the previous paperwork by the other consultants, which should be fine to schedule a planning. i would believe planning would want to move this forward because they're not happy about what happened, but they want the unit back now, which is what we're trying to do.

>> thank you. >> i would expect a couple of months for the hearing. >> well, to get a hearing date. >> yeah. >> i think planning is currently scheduling hearings several months out. if there's a continuance of the hearing, which often happens at planning, then, you know, hopefully six months, we'll start to finish. the request would be for a continuance here for a year but we're happy to come back so you're updated through the process. the risk here is if fines are imposed under the order of abatement, that starts to tip the economics to where it's just cheaper and financially feasible to abandon the project and demolish it there, but we don't want to do that. that's why we were requesting if you can give us at least some continuance and hold those fines in abay so it's not tipping against affordable housing. >> got it. >> thank you. >> thank you.

>> thanks for the drawings. >> can you tell me what was the 2015 permit application for? what were you trying to do? i have a follow-up question with that. >> it was to fix the dry rot. >> i'm not even trying to excuse it. >> that's what the -- i mean, that's what's solicited in the permit data, but what was the appellant applying for? the initial notice of violations for the dilapidated building, they obtained permits in 2010 and, i believe, 2012 to repair that structure. began construction and then

removed too much. >> and started rebuilding beyond scope. >> so what was the rebuild? >> i believe that's true. i will double-check the permitting records. >> then my follow-up -- [ off microphone ] >> my follow-up question is: what was the state of the building at that time? what were you doing? was there work going on? did it stop? what happened? >> the building was in pretty bad condition. 2010? >> 2015. was anyone working on it. >> they were building. the departments got involved, and it stopped. when it stopped, it was basically framed. i believe i was at a planning commission hearing where it was taller than it was supposed to be also. >> so it has been like that since? >> yes, it's been like that the last couple of years, trying to figure it out.

>> that's what i was trying to figure out. thank you. >> are you required to sprinkle the units in the back? >> that has not been brought up yet because i'm still at the planning department, but that may be a requirement of the building as a new structure because it's more than 75 feet from the street. >> yep. all new buildings have to be sprinklered per the code. just to give you a heads-up, you probably want to jump on that right upfront before you go farther down this road because that's a real problem right now. i'm not sure you're going to have enough costs to sprinkle to the back. >> water won't talk to you until you have something to show them. i worry about that too there are systems i've done where there's fire -- for single

family homes, a water tank of a certain size -- a holding tank of a certain size, so you would have to run the line down there. i'm going to take a wild guess that's what we're going to be looking at. we've done that on single family homes. >> okay. well, that's an option i never heard before. >> it's about bringing in supply is about $50,000. the system is about 30. it's not cheap, but when you have a problem getting water, this is a possibility, particularly if you have low pressure. >> that's good. >> yeah. so if we're talking time and schedule here, i really think you need to jump on that and factor that in here. i think that's going to be one of the biggest above and beyond all the others you have. >> thank you. >> how many square feet was it original original originally. >> it was on the second floor. there were exterior stairs to get to that, which planning doesn't want. i think it was 25 feet by 20.

so about 500 square feet. it wasn't very large. we're putting it on the first floor. the problem is there's a section of the ground floor and i can't solve the moisture issue. we're making that area kind of storage. we're going to put one bedroom on the second floor pulled in from the sides for respect of the neighbors. so by the time it's done, it will be roughly the same size of habitable to habitable. it wasn't very big. it's a naturally affordable unit. >> thank you. >> to answer commissioner lee's question, the 2015 permit number 201509096439, the cope of work is to comply with n.o.v. 3109999 and rear building and 201211144171 for reconstruction of the rear building. replace all rot in stud walls.

second floor framing with new members. they're trying to cover that work that had been done by the contractor. >> okay. any other questions? >> thank you. >> nice package, by the way. >> rebuttal? >> this is example of why we want pre-inspections. >> rebuttal by the department, please. >> we'll have to do public comment first. any public comment on this item? seeing none, department rebuttal? >> the issue with this case is it's been sitting there since 2010. there's also an abatement and appeals decision in 2012 to shore the building up. and so this is a good example of serial permitting where they get these permits and that permit,

there was a revision to that permit in the same year. revision to clarify and structure information, removal of deteriorated roof, second-floor framing, stud walls, and replace them per approval. and that is the permit that never got routed to planning. that basically gave them the idea they could remove the whole frame. it would have been a lot easier for them to work with the housing inspector, even get the building inspector involved. we have a system for emergency demolition purposes. one of the plans, they actually attach pictures to it. it's in file. it shows some of the walls in really bad shape. so that would have been the option. right now, we have a case eight years, and yet we still have phone calls complaining, calling yous y us and saying, hey, why is the department sitting on this case.

>> what is the nature of fines and assessments? >> to be honest, it's been minimal. we tried to work with the owner. we put a fee and $15,000 worth of work. so we tried to work with the owner on this. right now, it's all -- if he wants to get the permit and the monthly fees plus the final bill. >> so we're talking about how much again, approximately? >> a few thousand dollars. >> so we're not -- >> yeah. okay. >> commissioner mccarthy? >> yes, these projects, a few thousand dollars here and there add up. i do respectfully agree with you on the term. i don't see it as serial permitting because they didn't have to do this in the first place. this could have been removed. they were trying to preserve housing. there's no gain trying to cheat the system. that's one of the problems we're

having here right now, you know, this 317. we're trying to change this whole operation code and demolition because they exceed the permit -- we're going through a whole re-education with everything on that. i see that falling into that category as well. i think there's been good outreach now, particularliily p the here today. i think we're preserving housing. this is case in point of going what we have to do. if we can somehow support our commissioners and defer this, i do respect what you're trying to do, and it's your job to follow through with the permits, and i'm not trying to undermine that, but we have a good case where we can work with the particular appellant at this stage, if that's possible. >> any comments from other commissioners? okay. i think that we're all of a mind that we want affordable housing preserved in this city and as

commissioner mccarthy just brought up, you know, this is part of a much larger problem that we're experiencing. you know, the illegal demolition issue is one of the most sensitive issues that's going on in the city, and in one sense we're working to see that our standards and planning standards are more aligned. hope fly, we'll have clearer direction for you so we can go forward with that a little bit better. i believe we need rebuttal from the client at this point. >> if you read the notice, we didn't consider this an unlawful demo. you ke see how long it's taken. so we are trying to work with

the owner. we've been trying to work with the owner. >> thank you. >> ryan patterson. i want to be clear. we're not trying to excuse what the previous team did in terms of processing here and what the contractor did. it's hard to understand why they went through all of that process, but at this point, pat and i and the rest of the team are trying to do everything we can to fix the problem and get this housing restored. i want to thank dbi. i think they've been very diligent in staying on top of. this we don't fault them for this process either. just so you know what we've done, we brought in an architectural preservationist to restore it to the type of previous construction. we've gone through a whole long process. i think we're just about to the end of it.

>> if there's anything we can do, we'll be happy to do it. >> commissioner walker? >> i think it's laudable that there's an attempt to preserve this as affordable housing, but there was clear violations presented by the staff in the initial -- i believe it's appropriate for a motion to uphold the order of abatement, assess fees to the current date. hold in advance for a year and give this time to play out and hopefully encourage moving forward with replacing this

housing. i think there's acknowledgment on both sides that there was problems in the beginning. there's all sorts of things that are not followed in this case. i move to uphold the order of abatement, assess fees to current date, waive fees, as possible, going forward, and hold an advance for one year. >> would you want a six-month follow-up? >> it would be good to have an update periodically. yes, my attorney wants to advise me. >> i'm with the attorney's office. i wanted to make sure you provide a basis for your motion. >> the motion is it's clear that

the initial demolition and work beyond scope in rebuilding the building was without appropriate approval from planning. so this is a violation of both the legal demolition and building beyond scope. >> in terms of rescheduling this, are you contemplating just hearing from the parties about status? the board would not be able to take further action on the case once you decide it now. >> i think it's just informational. i mean, clearly, if we're giving you a year to do it, at a year this goes into effect. >> can i just restate the motion? >> please. >> the motion by commissioner walker is uphold abatement, impose the assessment of cost to and waive any costs going forward as possible. hold the order of abatement in

advance for a period of one year from today's date. >> correct. >> and the basis for that motion would be what you stated earlier that essentially the abatement order was properly issued. >> great. >> do i have a second? >> second. >> okay. >> there's a motion and a second. i will do a roll call vote. [ voting ] >> motion carries unanimously. abatement. e. continued appeal: order of abatement 1. case no. 6848: 780

post street owner of record & appellant: st. francis terrace llc, 1201 fulton street, san francisco, ca 94117 and david lagomarsino, 1201 fulton street, san francisco, ca 94117-1507 action requested by appellant: re-inspection by senior alan davison and reversal of the order of abatement. testimony, deliberation and possible action to uphold, modify or reverse the order of abatement. >> good morning. the acting chief housing inspector, andrew clarks, declined to appear, so normally we would have our, the person who supervised this case come, which is senior housing inspector alan davidson. he's not at the office today. we asked him to come last time too, and he was out of the office that day as well. so i'm here before you this morning. case history at 780 post street, case began in january where we found a problem with the elevator. and we went over this at the last hearing.

the case went to director's hearing, and that was approved by senior housing inspector alan davidson as well. the owner was given a continuance of that hearing. the case was reheard. the owner was given additional time. the order of abatement was finally determined to be issued in june, and then this appeal was filed. one of the issues that came up last time was regarding cal osha. that's the regulatory body for elevators in california. here's a copy of the permit for this elevator. it shows that it expired in january of 2016.

almost three years ago. >> november, i think. >> november, yeah. you are right. thank you. and then the next -- what happens then is cal osha sends a letter to the owner. it says the application is being proce processed. it says the expired permit is considered valid by the state until an inspector can be dispatched to the inspection that's currently due. >> and is that the letter for this particular elevator or is it standard? >> it looks standard. >> so we assume they have complied? >> they said they complied. it shows you cal osha, even though it's been two years with an expired permit, and they're still not looking at this