[laughter] >> congratulations! [applause]e i am commissioner president. if you are a member of the public, and you'd like to speak,

there are speaker forms located at the front of the tables, and you can fill one out and hand it to the staff, or you can just come to the microphone when i call you for public comment. before we get tarred, let's make sure everybody puts their cell phones on silent, commission and staff. we will start with a roll call. [ro [roll call] >> all right. thank you. >> and for the record, i'm sorry, commissioner tan is absent. >> thank you. the first order of business is general public comment. is there any public comment for any items that are not on the

agenda? >> good afternoon, commission. i'm cammy blackstone, and i am representing the graffiti advisory board this time. i wanted to bring to your attention since graffiti is a problem for our city but particularly for the night life industry that there is a big conference coming up on october 17 at the public library that the graffiti and advisory board is putting on. october 17 from 12:00 to 4:00, and just to give you some perspective on the problem of graffiti, every year, the city of san francisco spends $20 million abating graffiti on public property, and that doesn't count stuff that happens to clubs, a restaurant. so every time a club owner gets tagged, they get tagged with a spray can, and they get tagged 30 days later if they don't take

care of it with fines. they're going to have experts taking about new advancements in graffiti prevention. they're going to have graffiti abatement experts as well as law enforcement and the district attorney's office on how to best document graffiti so that when there's a conviction, when they catch someone, they actually get convicted. so just throwing it out there. graffiti advisory board. you can find out more details at the d.p.w. website, so thank you. >> thank you very much. >> and i wanted to give an official congratulations to maggie. >> thank you. is there anymore public comment? public comment is closed. [ gavel ]. >> we'll start with the next agenda item, which is the approval of our minutes for september 18, 2018. >> i move to approve.

>> second. >> motion? >> oh, sorry, we need to do public comment. >> you're correct. >> is there any public comment on the minutes? seeing none, public comment is closed. [ gavel ] [ro [ro [roll call] >> it is so moved. the minutes have been approved. the next item on the agenda is the report from our executive director. >> thank you, president bleiman. good evening, commissioners. i'm actually really excited to see all seven of you sitting up there, i think this is the first

time in, i don't know, over a year that i've seen a full commission, so' really excited about that. i wanted to just start this evening by doing an update on legislative and policy items relative to the entertainment commission. the first we're going to update you on are ab 2020, and i've asked dillon to put together an update for you on that, so take it away, dillon. >> thank you, director weiland. it's a pleasure to be here. i'm excited to announce that ab 2020 was signed by governor brown last wednesday. this bill basically authorizes the state of california to create temporary event licenses

to be held at any location that is a municipality to have cannabis consumption, distribution, activity. so now, establishments are allowed where they want to have cannabis events in their jurisdictions, and this goes into effect january 1 of 2019. the status quo is that district agricultural associations or d.a.a.s as well as some state and county fair grounds are currently the only places allowed to have cannabis events separate from dispensaries that are allowed to have consumption areas, where they can have an event inside. so just -- i'll try to run through it really quickly, some of these general rules. so the california bureau of cannabis control will still issue the license based on local jurisdiction approval, and

according to director weiland, we assume that the office of cannabis will be the local regulatory body for that. in terms of the overview of the are yo rules and regs for cannabis related activities, if you're going to be selling cannabis or cannabis products, you have to have a license already from the state from the bureau of cannabis control. smoke or vaping is still prohibited in places where smoking tobacco is prohibits. any consumption of cannabis may be allowed at the event, but as long as the area is restricted to people who are 21 and over, consumption of cannabis cannot be visible from the general public, so they're likely going to have to be some sort of walls or things to cover up the activity. you also may not do any consumption of liquor or tobacco

on that same premises. it also says that the event organizer that holds the temporary cannabis license for the event must expel any unauthorized person who is discovered, you know, illicitly distributing, selling cannabis and if they don't expel that person immediately, the event could be shutdown by the state. so just want today give you an update on that. we don't know exactly what that looks like in terms of permit processes on the local side, so that'll be exciting to find out how that works. in the meantime, the next step is director weiland asked me to participate in the next cannabis task force meeting, which is the local task force meeting, to talk about events and legislation in terms of legalizing cannabis events and how this could be playing a role in this. so that's october 10, and if you

don't know what this fascfortas is, i'll give you a quick background. it was developed three years ago and it's an advisory committee of government and community stakeholders that considers and evaluates all policy options according to -- for cannabis legislation in san francisco. they make policy recommendations to the mayor and the board related to regulation and responsible promotion of cannabis. we're going to feature a panel at this task force meeting, so i'll be on it. we're going to be inviting a producer representative, public health representative, and someone who represents someone who is -- from the medical cannabis community. and we are trying to get rec and park to join the panel, but they are likely not going to be able to join because of a scheduling conflict, but they would like to be included in the next task force conversation. so i -- il'll report back to yo

guys from that conversation. i'll also keep you guys posted on new policy frameworks and processes for this new cannabis temporary events license. and that's all i have. thank you very much. >> dillon, do you know, is there a anticipated timeline around when -- when permits might just be available locally? >> i'm not ware of, so that's one thing i'm sure is going to come up at this task force meeting. i'll get back to you when i know. >> okay. great. thank you. >> just f.y.i., i sit on the cannabis regulating task force, as well, not representing the entertainment commission, but i'll be there. >> all right. >> sorry. i do have a couple other items. [please stand by]

. >> -- according to the code. this location is allowed to be -- they're allowed to be audible 250 feet from the last attendee, and i believe this neighbor is within that distance from the property. so what we've done is encouraged that neighbor to call us in real-time so that we can investigate further, and this is something we're trying to do with all complainants, including the couple of other -- on the list. both -- both complainants there have been asked to contact us in real-time if the situations arise again. i think these are -- these are one off. we don't get complaints about, for instance, in the regency ballroom, a bus generator noise, that's not something we come across very often. and then jones, after speaking to the operator there, they had

explained they were doing some corporate events for dreamforce, and i think just the number of people gathering at that location was a bit higher than normal. so we had someone come by our office and make a complaint. under the inspections heading, there were two one-time events, schroeder's and enunciation cathedral. all the other events on the list were triggered by witnessing something without a permit or a complaint. i'll just rundown the list. poc chuck on 16 street. there was an e-mail we got from a concerned patron about loud music and dancing going on at the restaurant. old devil moon was a concerned

neighbor. st. joseph church was a location that had an event unpermitted that we happened to witness while on parole this past weekend. university club was a visit that we made after receiving a complaint and bar noir on columbus was something that we got a complaint about, as well. so we're visiting a lot of unpermitted establishments lately and trying to bring them into compliance with staff. a bunch of major events since we last met. two events @and the park, two at krisk center -- at at&t park, two at civic. we got 30 complaints about

metalica and ongoing complaints, three redford fun bar and benders, and then, halcyon, we've received three complaints since last hearing, and we're working with -- me, myself, and the inspectors are working with executive director weiland on trying to enforce after hours, 3:00, 4:00 a.m., double dutch, are back in touch with the complainant. after doing a sound test, ultrabowl, we're still waiting to get them into compliance and get them a report. >> the 30 complaints for the metallica dream force sounds

like a lot. can you be more -- >> i just want to give a little more background on this one. it's sort of interesting. so this is a multijurisdictional large scale event, so we're one of many agencies that permitted the event. part of the event footprint was on our property to permit, whereas the majority of patrons actually watching the event were on rec and park property? so i think there was a little bit of confusion in the actual planning portion of this process in permitting these events in the past that maybe we didn't realize the confusion was even there? because of the fact that we had artists that performed there before that weren't as loud ad metall metallica, like, alicia keys.

metallica was heard as far as noe valley, the richmond. we are planning next year -- i have no idea who their entertainment is going to be, but we are going to be working much more closely with rec and park on how we mitigate sound complaints on the front end. they have a pretty broad response in terms of how they handle outside complaints and how they work on mediating that during the planning phase, so we're going to work with each other on best practices and try to make it better next time around, but we did let the event producer and rec and park know of all of these complaints so that they could be responsive. >> thank you. >> hi, sean. >> hi. >> with regards to halcyon, these three complaints, were you

able to contact the business owner? sk >> we've made -- we've made all the complaints that come in available to the operator so they know exactly what's going on, so we're acting as a mediator. >> are they responsive? >> the real-time communication needs work, and director weiland and i are going to meet and try to figure out the best approach as people are still training in the field, and we need a more formal plan to make sure we get someone out there when the complaints are coming in. >> do these three complaints come directly to us or 311? >> directly through us -- or directly to us. >> okay. on the day of or the day after? >> day of, in real-time. >> in real-time. >> yeah. >> okay. thank you, sean.

>> hi. >> hi. >> i'm curious just to continue with halcyon. i know the last time they were here, we asked them to submit a calendar of events. is that helping at all or what's the procedure around that in terms of making sure they stick to their conditions? >> so we have currently in our han hands through october's calendar events. we've reached out about the remainder of the year at least trying to be able to plan, and that's going to inform, i think, our plan moving forward as far as being out there at the right times. what we want to do is -- i hope that we can get some staffing later in the morning, and i think the -- the -- once we know exactly when they're going to be open late, we can accomplish that. >> is there a way to do just, like, sound checks? and i know they said they have a

limiter that they use. you know, i think we're seeing meeting after meeting that there are still complaints, and sometimes there's not, which is good, and it sounds like they're working with you all and trying to work with the neighbors, maybe installing some new windows for some people, but i'm just -- you know, i think at some point, we'd like to see this just off the plate. so i -- i am really happy that you guys are working on it. i know this is a thorn in everyone's side, but do you see progress other than good communication because i'd like to see real, like, progress besides ta besides talking. >> we would, too. i think the big progress that we've really seen is just how the operator communicates now? she is very responsive. we have definitely served as a mediator. i have seen that neighbors do not even want to communicate

with her, and so that is very hard because if we're receiving complaints in real-time, when we're out there, we can be responsive. when we're receiving them, you know, at 3:00 and 4:00 in the morning and we're not there, that's very challenging, especially because they're not reaching out directly to the operator. and so, you know, we are looking at scheduling so that we have coverage out there early in the morning? i've got to be honest, i don't think that's something that we currently have the band width to do every weekend, though. so we're looking into creative solutions. you know, one idea is to work more closely with southern station to try to see what kind of coverage p.d. can provide as a back up during that time? i think it's a little bit beyond their scope to go out and determine whether or not a venue is providing entertainment past 4:00 a.m. every single weekend when we're not available to do

so? so i think it's a bigger conversation. i think this is a venue that we need to get really creative with. so i'm open to any suggestions. it's -- you know, it's been going on for quite sometime, and it's not something that we want to see as a complaint every week, either. so -- >> that is helpful to know. i mean, i think. i just wanted to hear a little bit more about, you know, what are they doing besides just

talking to each other? >> well, i'm happy to talk offline with less than a quorum of you. if anyone has suggestions to me because i'm totally open to being more creative about this, and it may actually result in us needing to bring them in if whatever your creative options are would mean reconditioning so we can actually enforce on something new. >> i just have one other question about at&t park. so i know we gave them a year-round permit now. >> so they do not have that permit yet because i'm still waiting on all of the approvals from departments? they are trickling in. i did speak with -- with the giants immediately when these complaints starting coming in actually in real-time? and so, you know, this is -- this is a challenging situation. it is also challenging just because they're not currently under our enforced conditions for that, and so they are

responsive to all the -- they were responsive to all the complaints, but that's as far as that goes, essentially. >> okay. i was actually curious if eight or ten complaints is kind of on par with other concerts or if it's more or less. >> it's way less than when we saw for beyonce, which we use as our example. i'd say it's midrange? it's -- it is a decent amount. i was unhappy to see there were that many complaints. >> okay. i know it's always an uphill battle with all these guys in trying to figure out how to best work with them. one final question just about dreamforce? it seemed like a couple of those potential permit issues were around lack of dreamforce events. do they work at all with anyone in our city to say here is the

whole on slaught of things that we're doing just outside of their general conference stuff? >> are you talking about other complaints aside from actual civic center? >> yeah, yeah. >> okay. they works with the mayor's office in the preparation of any of the large scale events? i don't know, though, if they would be working with the mayor's office to alert them of all of the small events taking place because there's so many? >> there are other related to dreamforce, but there are other random partners putting on events. >> to the event that we can get as details list of all the events, even side events that they' they're sponsoring. so just an idea. >> sean, when you say those are

the calls you received, are those calls into the entertainment commission or 311? what's the basis of those numbers from the large events? >> from the large events, so that's a total of all communications. so for metallica, dreamforce, for instance, i think we had 25 311 complaints, and then another five direct voice mail to staff. so sometimes those come into the director, sometimes they come into our general voice mail line. there could be e-mails that come in directly to the director or crystal. >> so these are real numbers, then, so when you say you've got 30 for metallica and the dreamforce event, it's not a preferred place to call 911, but they would just get switched over to 311, i would zblug

presumably. >> that's actually good data, then. >> and most of these bigger events, what i will do -- so at&t has a lot line that they -- hotline that they setup for people to call. and dreamforce did that, as well, so on all of the way finding signs they put around civic center, there was a hotline number. so i give that number to 311, so the number of calls could be higher, and 311 could have siphoned off a portion of those callers to this other number. >> right. and they probably wouldn't have the ability to track that? >> that's something i can do better moving forward to try to weave that in -- or at least make sense of how many they get. >> okay. thanks, sean. >> yep. >> sean, on halcyon, the complaints -- is it every single week, or is it, like, one week here, quiet the next week?

does it seem to be collated based on the dee jays that we get from germany or something? >> as far as i can tell, i don't think it's based on artist. it doesn't seem to be based on -- >> no, the complaints is every single -- >> more often than not, we get complaints when they're active. >> okay. >> i can put together a timeline, if that might -- >> yeah. just curiosity to see if they're having a -- still a -- you know, a problem with their levels, you know, and they're just ignoring that or there's still a problem with the front door or something, you know? yeah, if you can. >> yeah, i think the thing that we're trying to address now is, you know, how -- how do we get

the coverage to make sure that the majority of these complaints are coming in after 3:00, after 4:00. how do we get the coverage to make sure that we're holding them to the same standard throughout the night? >> and places likened up and -- that are -- like end up and -- open up at 6:00, we don't get as much as -- >> we have gotten complaints at end up. >> we don't have venues to have an inspector hanging out there, like, until 4:00. he really, there's -- really, there's only three venues open till 6:00 in the morning. >> well, until recently, i don't think we had the manpower to have that be an option. now that we have the manpower, we're just trying to figure out a plan to get the staffing out there and try to wrap some of this stuff up.

>> okay. >> okay. thank you. >> i did have one question. what's our policy on generator noise? is that regulated in our charter or ordinance? >> what are you referencing? >> so there's a complaint at regency regarding bus generator noise? >> oh. >> is that in the jurisdiction of what we cover or related night life? >> generally speaking, the way i've handled it in the past is anything that is -- anything that can be associated with a venue, patron noise, bottles in trash cans, anything like that, if it's something that's occurring as a result of you providing entertainment, then it's your responsibility. in my experience, sometimes it's a matter of a shore power connection not working a particular night. maybe that's why, so shore power

allows these buses to be plugged into the venue and not plugged into a generator, so the generators can be turned off and it's not an issue. generally, when i get a complaint like this, i can say hey, what's going on? why don't you use the shore power? we don't get these complaints ever, and moving forward, they take care of it. >> okay. thank you. >> so since this is octoberfest going on, do we have a good idea of the calendar, what's going on in the city? are you guys fully confident, we're going to have coverage? >> so miss stewart here puts out a list of one-time events every single week for our inspectors and our enforcement team of permitted event, and sean definitely does his due diligence in researching events that might be unpermitted?

and so we do have the enforcement team that will be out there, so yeah, nothing too much of concern. and then, in the same vein, we are going to be putting out a notice to our stakeholders in the next week asking them to submit applications as soon as possible for halloween related events, so we are going to be creating a list for that. and again, as you all know, dillon is going to be taking over the citywide master calendar of events, so we're going to be distributing that to other city agencies. and again, that'll be used by our enforcement team when going out there. >> all right. that was a lot of questions. do we have any public comment on inspector burke's report? seeing none, public comment is closed. [ gavel ]. >> do we have any police officer comments or questions?

seeing none -- [ gavel ]. >> that's closed, as well. the next item on the agenda is police department questions and comments. i see officer matthias here. now would be a great time to come up -- okay. none. so we are going to close that item. [ gavel ]. >> the next item on the agenda is number 6, hearing and possible action regarding the application for permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. >> no. >> oh, sorry. >> this is the r.d.r. item. >> oh, sorry. skipped ahead. for the planning department and r.d.r. issues is the next item. so i'll turn it over to director weiland. >> thank you? okay. so the only item we have on agenda this evening for r.d.r. is 1300 columbus? and this is a project that has a proposed hotel project here. it's located within 300 feet of

the ro the -- of the rec serve -- roc sf, fiddler's green. you'll see in the materials here their work with the planning department, as well, but i'm going to bring them up to describe in more detail the project. is it -- chloe, are you coming up? [inaudible] >> okay. >> good evening, everyone. matt saxon with g.f.a. architecture and design. we're designing the addition to the hotel at 1300 columbus. can i use this to show something? you have documents, as well,

but -- [please stand by]

and i'll just share a typical

plan of the guest room. so this is a typical level two, three, four of the hotel where you can see the hotel rooms filling out that 360 shape with a little spine down the middle connecting to the existing hotel, which is in blue. all the rooms will be carpeted, and we won't be providing any operable windows for these rooms. we' we'll be providing mechanical ventilation throughout likely ptac units in the facade, although it's early in the process so we're still sorting out the details of the mechanical systems. other than that, all of our glazing will meet the recommendations of the f.t.c. ratings perthe acoustical design guidelines. this is a hotel that's remaining

hotel, adding 174 rooms. but other than that, it's a pretty straightforward addition. so if there are no questions, i'll invite jordan roberts up to share some data, as well. >> hello. jordan roberts, charles felter associates. i'll throw up this image.

roc, northwest, fiddler's green, and the marriott. we weren't as concerned, and we ended up not really noticing much from the marriott since it's inside the -- we didn't notice any entertainment noise from that source. we measured m m 1 here is the long-term measurement, so we pulled kind of a lot of data off of that location, different periods throughout the night. 10:00 p.m., we did the 1:50 a.m. to 2:00 a.m., and one here, we captured some patrons leaving the nightclub, and we have some -- and then, that m-1 measurement, we also got, on monday and tuesday nights, that

established our ambient noise levels. so our findings, we recommended that stc-34 windows would be included along facades in the guest rooms facing the place of entertainment. so north-northwest, west, and to the south, along those facades, we recommended the higher s.t.c. ratings. any questions? >> i have a question. there was a reason they fired down near fiddler's green. was it open at that time or boarded up? >> fiddler's green? >> yeah. it was closed down. it predated the fire. >> yeah, it was open when we made the measurements. >> question. can you go back to the map on --

bring the map back on the -- oh, no, the one you just had, the actual aerial. >> this? >> so my question is, so everything in the back, there's an alley here, right? okay. roc sf is right here in the corner. so a lot of people will park along here in the park of your hotel. now, there's an alley there. is that a drivable alley or is this foot traffic only? a drivable alley? now, is it something where patrons can park and cut across and get to the club? let's say from one of the streets here, you know, you parked way -- let's see. where are we at?

i'm concerned -- yeah, that alley right there. so if people park on jones, and they want to cut across there and get to the club, do you have adequate lighting? i mean, is it lit in the back, and those are -- below it is existing hotel, is that correct? >> yeah. >> you're just adding on top. >> actually, we're not adding everything on the -- >> you're not adding. >> everything in blue is the -- >> that's the existing. >> okay. so since we're just doing it -- so is there lighting back there in case people hangout in the alley or get jumped or whatever, it's unsafe in the back there?

>> sure. there is currently lighting along that north facade of the building. i think there are maybe three or four down lights mounted to the -- >> okay. and there's no entry back there, either, is that right. >> just the loading dock is on the north side. >> okay. thank you. >> just a quick question. i know you said there's going to be maybe three or four storefronts in the new building. do you know what businesses those are going to be targeted toward? >> not yet, no. >> well, this is in our highest concern neighborhood around night life entertainment, but to the agree that you could support that in this new structure, i think that would be great. but otherwise, i don't really have any concerns, so i don't think we need to add additional concerns or recommendations beyond our standard ones. >> i did have a question. this is more for the staff. there's an existing holiday inn there. are we aware of any existing

complaints that come from this holiday -- >> zero. >> okay. so i would imagine that this would add to the existing noise rather than subtracting it. >> yeah. >> all right. thank you very much. is anybody from the roc or fiddler's green here, any of those locations that want to speak? if you are, please step forward if you're from one of those locations. this is not public comment, just so you know, this is just if

you -- >> i'm the owner of the club. >> are you supportive of this? >> i think it'll bring in more tourism. >> i think it'll be great. >> great. >> question. >> yeah. >> what kind of music do you guys do? what kind of entertainment? >> right now on fridays, i believe it's top 40's, e.d.m. match ups, and i believe saturday is hip-hop. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> one more thing. this is more of a future thing, not for you. in the future, if the back of the club, if somebody wants to open a club in the back of it, is everything going to stay existing or are you guys upgrading the back of the hotel where the original -- you know, where the rooms are, where the alley is? is that untouched or that is -- that is upgraded windows and

things like that, the whole building? >> the exterior of the building is not changing. >> not changing at all. >> no upgrades. >> you're only addressing the existing clubs that are there, but in the future, if another club in that quadrant opens up, could there be possible issues? i mean, i'm just -- probably not your jurisdiction now, but in the future, i'm just wondering -- >> sure, your question is in regards to the existing glazing. >> there's a lot of, like, empty buildings, a lot of transformation. maybe in the future there could be a lounge or somebody wants to do entertainment behind the hotel. i'm curious. i know you're upgrading with new stuff, but would the existing windows be able to withstand any new venue in the back? i'm sure maybe it's -- you don't

have to worry about it now. but in the future there could be conflicts if somebody wants to build a club back there. >> yeah. it's hard to give an answer directly because we haven't measured the existing s.c.c. ratings of the glazing on the building. but i think you're right. if there were a new club there, we'd have to use that data to examine what kind of noise was generated from there. >> as well as the windows -- the original windows from 1971. >> that's right, yep. >> commissioner lee, i would think if there is a new permit applicant, we would hold them to the sound policies of the city, which means they are having very little impact on their neighbors. >> yeah. i'm just saying -- obviously, now would be -- that would be on the burden of the new club to make sure you're not disturbed, but since we're at this -- i'm just curious on the rating if you knew, that's all. >> yeah, i don't.

>> okay. all right. thank you. do we have a motion on this item? any further comments? >> i'd like to move to recommend this project with our standard conditions to the planning commission -- or planning department. >> i second. >> all right. we're going to do public comment. is there any additional public comment on this matter? seeing none, public comment is closed. is there any police department comments? seeing none, police department comments is closed. [ gavel ]. >> all right. now we can vote. [roll call] >> all right. recommended. moving onto our next agenda

item, it is, i believe, number seven, right? which is hearing and possible action regarding permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission, and i will turn things over to director weiland. >> thank you. okay. we are finally at that item for everybody in the crowd. so our first permit application this evening is actually for a one-time event, and i am bringing them here. this is the burning man project, and justin katz will be repping. this is the 19th annual burning man decompression. you have heard from this applicant before and extended their hours to midnight before. they moved their location, so we need to set a new precedent here. they did a great deal of public outreach, and so here they are to tell you more. >> hi.

i'm justin with burning man project, and i'm here with my friend, steven rasmuth. and we are here regarding or 19th annual burning man event which will be moving to the potrero power station which is one block further south than our location last year. we were at pier 70 which puts you also one block further away from the closest residential neighbors? and as mentioned, we're here to request that our event will be running from 2:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m. and we would like to have our outdoor sound extended to midnight. we have done the best we can, as always, to be good neighbors, and i've made two rounds personally, two flier and meet to give contact information to

all of the neighboring businesses and residences within the area that you probably see outlined all the way up to third street and a couple of blocks in each direction? >> and also the information has been shared with the dogpatch neighborhood association, and they have submitted a letter of support, so we've done or usual due diligence. and there's also, i believe in your packet, an additional letter of support from supervisor cohen. we worked closely with her on a recent event, as well, and we're just delighted to actually have found this location to do our event in because it -- i think it affords us opportunity to feature local artists and not have any sound issues.

>> i have a quick question? how did you find this site? i know it's just a block away, but i'm not as familiar with it as an event location, so i'm curious how that negotiation or inquiry went. >> the development group of this property has a several-year timeline, and in the interim has reached out to hold a very limited number, in fact two events this entire year, which is la cocina, the week preceding our event, and decompression, and that's it. so they were interested in finding local organizations that they felt were of benefit to the

community. we've worked with the developers. >> i'd like to actually add one thing that you just might not be aware of and that is jocelyn cain, previously with the entertainment commission, suggested that we might move home, so it's actually through in part of support of the entertainment commission, and i want to recognize her efforts to help us scout possible locations, which were very helpful, and we're very pleased that this seems to be a very good fit. the neighborhood is happy to have us here to remain in the neighborhood, and this is a case of us just trying to find a

place where we actually can continue to have a cultural event, which does have some sound, and make everybody happy. >> great. and it sounds like this might be a multiyear thing if it's successful, right? >> that's what i hope. >> they're hoping to break ground in the third year, so i'm hoping to go back next year, at least. >> i think you guys did a great job last year at pier 70. i think it had a much better flow than its old home, so i look forward to how you're able to transform it and activate it this year. thank you. >> just to staff, is there a response from police? i don't see anything in the packet. >> okay. we haven't received one from bayview station yet, but we don't issue the permit until we receive that, so we still have some time. >> okay. thank you. >> just to add to that, we have been in contact with bayview station, and officer ramirez is supportive of the event and has

received our initial security plan and was supportive of that and generally, we have had a very positive working experience with bayview. the number is what we would expect to see over the course of the event, which is from 2:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m. just one thing to note, when we consider our operations and security, is that when we program the content based on different waves of people that have a different participate in

the event, people that come earli earlier, you know, and the people that are going to be coming later are coming for a different part of the event experience. >> so what would your critical mass number be at one time? >> it could be as high as 6500. >> all at once? >> yeah. the fire department is currently given the capacity numbers based on it. we have a much higher capacity number than that, which would give us latitude, should we need it. in terms we work with a bonded security company, high rock security, which we've worked with for many years, supplemented by ten p.d. officers, and we use black rock rangers who are trained at our

70,000 person event to do mediation, crowd control, those types of things and to work with both law enforcement and bonded security to supplement their presence. we also have over 100 people on radios, and our staff with basically eyes on every corner of our event operations. does that answer your question? do you need anything else? >> yeah. i just was surprised that there wasn't any information in our packet regarding the security plan. thank you. >> hello. hi. thanks for coming in. will the entertainment be all outdoors or will some of it be indoors, as well? >> there is a small amount of indoor space that we will have some music and film in these areas, but the majority of it will be -- virtually all of it is outdoors and would be ending at midnight?

>> will there been several stages or just one site? >> we have several sound areas. it's probably worth noting at this point that we do pay careful attention to the positioning and direction of each so that they're evenly disbursed around and pointed away from as much as possible any populated areas. so in the case of this site, we have multiple locations pointing at, for example, the d.h.l. building or at the power station waterfront, and away from, you know, the streets. >> and entertainment will be happening simultaneously potentially? correct. it's more of a distributed experience at the event. we don't have headliners, we don't have a main stage. the way that it's curated as a community event allows a lot of different kinds of performance and and entertainment to happen compatibly because it's a lower level of sound. >> but they'll be all amplified sounds, right? >> yeah. >> okay.

thank you. >> all right. i don't have any questions, so thank you very much. you guys may have a seat, and we'll discuss this briefly before public comment. >> you want a motion before public comment? i'd like to move to approve this permit with whatever police conditions do come forth after the fact, but nothing beyond our good neighbor policy. >> second. >> all right. before we vote, is there any member of the public who wants to speak on this topic? seeing none, public comment is closed. police officer comments or questions on this topic? nope? seeing none, that is also closed. [ gavel ] [roll